The man who created Nautilus and the Colorado Experiment
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- Опубліковано 12 вер 2024
- Arthur Jones was the man who created the revolutionary line of exercise equipment; Nautilus. And with the help of Casey Viator, he also conducted the Colorado Experiment.
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I worked out at an old gym in the late 80's that had a TON of this Nautilus equipment- it had pretty much every piece imaginable, and to be honest... that stuff was KILLER. The lat pullover worked the lats right in that spot where they meet the arms (the top of the V-taper) so damn good that you could actually FEEL that spots pump. It was a machine that no exercise I have ever tried can duplicate. The bicep curl also hit the peak of the bicep in such a pump giving way... I really miss that equipment. If someone bought the rights to build the equipment in a new factory, and re-released the stuff, it would be EPIC.
mydogjesus now im looking for nautilus because of your comment
I remember this old equipment as well. I go to a YMCA right now that has 'Magnum' brand machines (Magnum is out of business now). They have a very similar lat pullover machine. Yes, you can feel it work! I can't for the life of my understand why other companies don't play off of this machine. All they have to do is change it a bit.
mydogjesus Arthur Jones son has developed a bunch of machines,called hammer strength..they are awesome
Next step is to get on ARXfit equipment
buttgoo magoo the son of Arthur jones, gary jones , founded hammer.
Dorian Yates gained almost 30 lbs from '92 to '93 O!!! Trained by Mike Mentzer using Jones techniques. Mike Mentzer was first bodybuilder to score a perfect 10!
Loved the Nautilus pullover machine. After blowing out my shoulder overtraining benchpressing to much to often. I rehabbed my shoulder's range of motion on the nautilus pullover....
Haha I’m 52 and my first gym and High School has all Nautilus. Used chains instead of cables. Much smoother. Really high quality machines....Wish my current gym had them.
I started at a Nautilus Gym in the 70s. And it was a great system if You did it properly 2 pos 4 neg.
All the new machines are cheap pulley cables instead of sprocket chain. Wish the gyms were still around as good low impact workout without injuries You get with free weights.
glad to see someone put info on Arthur out there! you should read some of his old Nautilus bulletins they really explain HIT and why it works so well it's the entire reason I am now going to school for exercise science
I don't remember if I told you this before. There was an interview Ronald and Nancy Reagan gave on the Barbara Walters show in which Nancy commented to Barbara that as a result of "Ron" working out all the time on "those Nautilus machines" in the White House gym he had put on so much upper body muscle mass that she had to buy him a complete new wardrobe. I never understood why Arthur didn't take advantage of that and use it in his adds. When I saw the show and heard her say that I was sure he would.
When I was in my mid-20s and in the best shape of my life, I trained at a great old-school gym that had several of the original (or at least early line) Nautilus machines. Besides the classic pullover that most people know and love, there was a great "Duo Chest" machine that allowed for brutal supersets of flyes and presses with only a second or two required to adjust the pin, a great leg press machine that was unilateral and also required good technique (if you pressed fast, the cam did not engage the chain so you pushed the pedal and that's it; you had to follow the slow and steady motion rule), and a pretty good lat pull down. This was 2000 or so. I have encountered a few other Nautilus machines here and there since I started training in the mid-90s and never thought ill of any of them. I always wondered what it would be like to have access to the original Nautilus-style gyms in the 80s where it was a circuit of only their gear. My parents were fitness nuts in the 80s and like others, still refer to any machine generically as a "Nautilus machine."
As a worker in the early to mid seventies at the plant in Lake Helen Fla., I remember Casey's visits there. A very scary looking person, we all soon warmed up to him, as he turned out to be a very nice guy. I worked out with Casey several times in the Exec. gym being invited to use the gym after work by Arthurs wonderful son Edgar. Never before or after have I worked for such wonderful people ! I do miss Arthur and the crew very much.Vinny from Deltona, Fla.
Most people forget (or don't know) that Arthur Jones AKA "AJ" also trained Sergio Olivia around the same time he was training Casey.
I started working out in the 70s at a Nautilus Gym. The Original machines where great with the sprocket and chains. I wish the Gyms were still around as they were great to stay injury free and a great workout.
I trained in Colorado at the first gym. I was 21 years old. I bought some of the original machines and still have them. Changed my total way of working out.
I really liked this equipment. For some reason it 'disappeared' which IMO is a shame because I always felt it worked the muscle better than anything else.
Dorian Yates also followed, loosely, this type of training and also had (and still has) the same lat machine in his Temple Gym.
The man had a good set of arms too.
Was the 1st equipment I used back in 84 when I started working out and still #1 best quality to stand the test of time! Hammer Strength with cables and really liked the leg station
If I had a gym nearby that offered original Nautilus equipment I would sign up right now. I used that equipment in my early days of weight training and to this day I have found nothing better.
Casey victor was a badass ! Everything you could want in a body
dorian yates also trained hit
He says that, but some bodybuilders who have trained with him, such as Lee Priest, said he trained the way everyone else did. I would guess and say he sometimes trained HIT, but not all the time.
Tupac Spock lee was after yates i belive but after his last injurie yates realize he cant keep going balls to walls everday but he said he trained like that through out his whole career
+Tupac Spock boyer coe said in an interview that dorian always used all the hit principles that mike taught him but the only difference was that he would do more warm up sets before his final set. and dorian also said that he never liked to do supersets either, only take the most basic exercise for each muscle and keep getting stronger on them.
if you watch Dorin's traning videos you will see he used multiple sets per muscle group.
+Raul Torres If you watch Yates training vids... something like blood and sweat I think... particularly with a training partner who calls him Diesel and set in what looks like Yates own gym ... you will see its all HIT.
"Yeah Science Bitch!!"
i honestly don't know why Casey Viator didn't win more competitions than he did? to me he had one of the most complete looks in BB history? and from what i've read about him he was a freak of nature as far as his natural strength and ability to put on muscle.
The strongest my friend there stories of him squatting 600 for 20 reps!!! And similar on bench press, nobody could gain muscle like him a complete freak
It was Joe Weider and the IFBB that kept him out. He was the first person to win the AAU Mr. America title while still a teenager.
I believe it was Boyer Coe who stated that Viator used to sneak out & get volume sessions in at another local gym..
That said Jones's HIT sessions were full body and looked quite lengthy compared to Mentzer's & Yates's versions..
Personally I feel that full body workouts were the key to the huge & rapid gains - at least from a training perspective..
Man it's like you're teaching an intro to bodybuilding history course I learn something in every video!
I love the old Nautilus lat pullover machine. Nothing else hits the lats as well.
Casey Viator was very gifted in the first place. With that said, HIT does work (not necessarily the Heavy Duty that Mentzer espoused) but something that is based on HIT like MAX-OT does work.
Exactly. Casey was a genetic freak.
I have always felt that HIT works, but probably not for everyone. Just my thoughts, but I feel like someone needs to be somewhat athletic (or at least "in tune" with their body) to really push for that total positive failure. Many people just do not understand their limits and stop a few reps shy. That being said, Mentzer went off the deep end by the end of his life and I do not really buy into his "1-3 reps of incline bench every 8 days" theory.
This channel is great for anyone interested in the topic of bodybuilding. Keep up the good work. Glad to have came across this.
The first gym I lifted at (circa 1991 @ 21years) had the machine the Casey is using while wearing the Penn State tank top.
It was a reconditioned machine, red and white in color. The chain drive and everything lol. In our small Ohio town at our small gym, it was a semibig deal to us. Later as a YMCA personal trainer ( The first paraplegic in the over 150 year history) I was able to develop many ab programs on the modern version.
As a paraplegic I've found that the. Nitro line and and the previous line to it were very accessible and effective for me with few improvisations.
See me jump through hoops (sort of)on my channel. Thanks Nick!!
per Darden, on t-nation, other comparable results.. "Casey had what I considered to be one-in-a-million genetics for bodybuilding. So duplicating the results would be extremely difficult, especially considering Viator was mostly rebuilding muscle he had previously built. Even though they don't have the genetics of Casey, I've put a number of above-average men through programs similar to the Colorado Experiment.
Here are the muscle gains of eight of those subjects:
David Hudlow built 18.5 pounds of muscle in 11 days. Documented in The New High-Intensity Training.
Eddie Mueller built 18.25 pounds of muscle in 10 weeks. Documented in Massive Muscles in 10 Weeks.
Todd Waters built 15.25 pounds of muscle in 6 weeks. Documented in High-Intensity Strength Training.
Jeff Turner built 18.25 pounds of muscle in 4 weeks. Documented in GROW.
Keith Whitley built 29 pounds of muscle in 6 weeks. Documented in Bigger Muscles in 42 Days.
David Hammond built 22.5 pounds of muscle in 6 weeks. Documented in Bigger Muscle in 42 Days.
Joe Walker added 17.38 pounds of muscle in 6 weeks. Documented in The Body Fat Breakthrough.
Shane Poole built 19.34 pounds of muscle in 6 weeks. Documented in The Body Fat Breakthrough.
@ 5:04 that is John Shula coach of the Miami Dolphins.
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I tried a version of the Colorado experiment, the 30-30-30. Very simple BUT extremely mentally and physical challenging. Basically you're doing 1 1/2 reps. @ negs and one positive. Except you are going 30 seconds down, 30 seconds up, then 30 seconds down. Must start with a challenging weight. You will build solid muscle and become ridiculously strong. Simple concept, however if you are weak minded, don't even try. Oh and you only work out once a week. Start with machines, large body parts, arms optional. Good luck.
tmv108 what do you mean 30 seconds up and down. no way is a workout of a 60 second full rep effective
The Body Fat Breakthrough: Tap the muscle-building power of negative training and lose up to 30 pounds in 30 days by ellington darden, look it up on amazon. Not my workout, I tried it to lose weight. I actually GAINED weight, but loss size, was dense as hell though. Waist line shrunk too.
It definitely is an interesting concept. It would be awesome to find a gym with all the equipment used ,and follow this to the T . Why not it was a month long experiment. Thanks for yet another great video.
I used them back in 1988 in Maine, I liked them, after training for one month, I jumped 80lbs on my bench press.I would use them today if I could. I loved the tricep and bicep machines. You had multiple seat settings you always could find a good position. Overall I'd rank them a 7 or 8 out of 10
Nautilus was the best training equipment Man ever invented, provided that you trained all of your body parts with free weights as well.
Great video man. I love the informative stuff. That Colorado Experiment is fascinating to me. I never knew anything about it until you talked about it. Thanks.
Love your classic videos Nick. Keep up the good work and Thanks.
Casey had an adverse reaction to meds after his accident and had been hospitalized, not sure he had prepared by staying away from the gym, also Jones had stated that Casey had like triple the muscular potential than an average guy, and that he had a sister that weighed 180 lbs and was not fat
It's called muscle memory!! Ya got to remember casey had the most amazing genetics! Super strong
Dorian Yates was trained by Mike Mentzer who was a major student of Arthur Jones for his 1993 Mr. Olympia. Enough said.
Another very good, very informative video. Many thanks Nick.
@ 3:25. Is that coach Shula? GO DOLPHINS!!!
I grew up bodybuilding In the 80s and 90s and i love all this nostalgia
@ Nick strenght & power, your forgot to mention that Arthur Jones was the trainer of Mr. Olympia Sergio Olivia sr. And he was the first to measure and thell the reals measurements of the arms of the bodybuilder from the 70s.
Sergio was Mr. Olympia before he ever met Arthur Jones.
well, I stand corrected from Dardens post "All the relevant data were separated and assembled. Nautilus printed and distributed thousands of brochures on the Colorado Experiment. I published the results in several of my books, and three or four other authors did the same." so he did print and distribute material pertaining to the experiment
Jones an ingenious mad man
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1. Viator DID gain 63 pounds steroid free. Up until he died he insisted he did not use gear at all during the experiment, and he had no financial interests from said experiment after so many years, so why lie?
2. Though it was 63 pounds, it was not all LBM. It was more like 40~pounds because he did drop in body fat significantly as well. Even then, that is incredible.
3. He had dieted down before the experiment and lost 20~ pounds.
So, after all that, it was like, 20 pounds or more of gains in a month. Still incredible considering he did it all natural.
And if you’re still not convinced, just don’t knock it until you try it.
I used an all Nautilus workout in the late 90's, i enjoyed it and combined it with a lot of swimming. I enjoyed the change of routine but i certainly didn't get bigger. In'fact this was after my period of Mass building and more a fitness type regime for me. The only system i ever found to build as much muscle as i could that worked for me was, Training each body part per day( Arms on the same day) was Heavy dumbbells and barbell work.
IIRC, Jones also trained the 1972 Miami Dolphins. Viator was an obvious case of selection bias. Though, HIT principles still valid: the most important rep is that last, impossible one.
I would love to try some of the old school nautilus stuff. Like a whole gym full
My boy Nick running this YT game
Very nice video! I enjoyed it because I've been doing a workout method that is an evolution from Mike Mentzers Heavy Duty. In the last 2 years I train 2x35min a week and have more muscle than when I trained high volume. Small injuries in elbow and shoulder are almost totally gone and I spend less time in the gym. Arthur Jones was a genius, but that Colorado experiment was a marketing ploy and he trolled everyone like crazy with that. No way that is done without anabolics.
ór Casey Viator was using steroids without Arthur knowing. Which is what Casey himself claims.
great historical info on the Nautilas founder. I liked the pullover machine better than the dumbbell because I had more control over the weight, and I could do drop sets faster
Love the history stuff
Casey was incredible with amazing genetics. I stopped and visited with him in 1970 while he lived in New Iberia, Louisiana. His workouts would kill most people even before he met Arthur Jones. His intensity was scary. He died way too young down here in Florida. Arthur was very smart and had several inventions in other fields. But he was outspoken and got under some people's skin. He had his own TV show called Wild Cargo. He was an explorer of Africa and other countries and loved animals. That is why he built Jumbo Lair just north of Ocala, Florida. At one time he had his own Jumbo Jet and landing strip there.
When I went to university in 1982 we had a Nautilus circuit. I liked it because you could do the circuit in about 40 minutes and it was relatively safe compared to free weights.
Just subscribed for your history classes. thx keep up
The eggs-shaped cam made the movement harder at the top rather than easier.
Love the oldies, he died a few years ago so I read.
Actually Nick on another note, if you check that t-nation article, the 4th pic down is Casey doing front double biceps, I mention this becuase of your really good video about bicep length short vs long and the biceps peak, had never considered the points you made, but it looks here like Casey is a real outlier, obviously his biceps are huge, but he also has a pretty good peak and does have long muscle bellies on both arms. Rather unusual it would seem, at least after watching your vid, wich was very informative
I knew Casey personally. He did not gain 63 lbs of muscle he re-gained 63 lbs of muscle that he had previously lost. It' called Muscle memory. He almost cut a finger off accidentally while using a tool and it got infected. As Nick said, his muscles had simply atrophied so he wasn't gaining 63 lbs of muscle that he never had before but re-gaining what was lost under perfect conditions. Same with Jones and his 21 lb "Gain."
Discovered you some weeks ago and i have to say that i really enjoy your videos, you make bodybolduing very intersting. Thank you, keep going ! Greetings from France ! Nicolas
He trained Sergio Olivia for the '71 Olympia. Put on around 30 pounds. Scared the heck out of Weider. 'Banned' him from competing.
The New High Intensity Training by Ellington Darden includes some more biographical info on Jones, as well as some highly entertaining but unflattering vignettes about Arnold and the Mentzers. Darden was an employee of Jones, and also worked with Viator and Coe.
In the mid-seventies, my high school weight room had that before and after poster hanging. It made me train like a demon. I think I gained two pounds of muscle one year.
Ur channel is growing pretty fast Nick, keep up the good work.
Dude. Great Channel. Great episode. Love the history.
I have had the pleasure to meet Arthur Jones in Cincinnati many years ago. He was a little rough around the edges but he meant well! A genius who discovered the secret of physical development and training! He will be missed!
Hell yeah man you put out so many videos it's great
Really enjoy your videos Nick. Keep em coming.
Love the historical videos...
is that Don Shula at the 3:24 mark ? sure looks like him. There was a Nautilus Fitness Center in Ft Worth back in the late 70s. I worked there out a couple of times. One aspect of Nautilus is the compound machines for HIT. Compound chest machine; flies with chest press, lateral raises with shoulder press. Knee extension with leg press. Pre-exhaust with flies then chest press to failure, lateral raises then shoulder press to failure. Knee extensions then leg press to failure. I worked out at a guys house in the mid 70s that had a Nautilus pull over machine, triceps/bicep and a hip and back machine in his garage.. not exactly what one would expect in a small town in east Texas in the 70s...
I trained for a short time under Arthur Jones in the 1970s. He was ADAMANTELY AGAINST not only steroids but ANY food supplements. I trained with Casey in the Deland High School Gym when he was preparing for the Mr. America contest. And the way you put it made it sound like they were hiding or trying to hide his weight loss prior to the Colorado Experiment when IN FACT Arthur Jones announced it and explained the muscle recovery aspect of his weight gain at the time of it's publication. A little objectivity on your part would have gone a long way to enhance your credibility as a journalist.
I ve been to the Quonset hut in 74. and you are correct about Arthur said. the Colorado experiment was all documented / verified. I also worked out with casey for 1 semester in fall 74 at the deland nautilus time machine headquarters
You are the witness. Can i get your email?
GREAT SUBJECT!!! This man Revolutionized Bodybuilding more than anyone And Never stepped on a stage.
Josh you are to be SALUTED!!!!
It is always nice to hear a cool story
hella love these vids. sucks to be busy cause I don't get to watch all the time
Arthur Jones was an odd duck. I remember Sports Illustrated did a fairly lengthy article about him in the early to mid 1970's. I don't remember a whole lot from the article, except for something strange that Jones supposedly said. For some reason, he told the sports writer that he "wanted to bomb Rhodesia, and stomp on the ashes." I wonder if he wasn't an African mercenary in an earlier chapter of his life.
Actually, I think he was. I think he said he was a mercenary pilot. Yeah, I met the guy at Colorado State University, the place where the Colorado Experiment was done. Then about three years later, while vacationing in Florida, I went to Deland where the Nautilus factory was, and had lunch with him. He was a scary guy.
couple salient points regarding the Colorado Experiment, first off, I'm not sure Arthur ever used the experiment itself for marketing Nautilus because the machines that were used (see pic at 3:49) were not really Nautilus machines. The experiment was done to test the efficacy of his NO & NA machines. That is, Negative Only and Negative Accentuated machines, specially designed to allow the trainee to lift the weight with, for ex, the legs and lower only with arms or to have assistants lift the weight so the trainee could do the lowering or negative or eccentric phase of the movement. These machines never went into production or were ever sold so it is doubtful that he used Casey for anything other than as a model for Nautilus equipment. And I wonder, since Casey won Mr. America (not teenage Mr A.) after this (as well as best-every-bodypart except abs if I remember) if that contest was teseted or not.. also Casey was paid for every pound he put on, so doubt Jones would have given him steriods if it was going to cost him, plus, wouldn't that be a felony, giving steroids to a minor? And if Jones had caught Casey doing roids behind his back he would have kicked his ass and Casey would have lost his job, not to mention how would a kid from podunk town in florida get steriods, especially if he hadn't been working for many months, they were not as prevelant back then like now.. just my .02
Casey Viator was said to been put on a calorierestricted diet of 800 cals a day diet by Jones before starting this experiment, aside from the freak accident and so called allergic reaction to a certain medicine which nearly killed him.
Second he would sneak out of Jones 's supervision to do some regular high volume training in between his HIT training.
This also counts for Mike and Ray Mentzer.
Third he was roided to the gills so that makes his super transformation more than logical then just because of muscle memory. Even more evidend hence his recuperation time being inhuman to be able to train 5 days week all out. These were his own words.
Viator was missing part of a finger as well...baby on right hand...not sure if that was the injury...Arthur also had a pet gorilla that he used to train with his machines...
Casey admitted he lied about nautilus training. He said when Arthur left he did extra sets and reps.
Could you imagine gaining 63 pounds of muscle in 28 DAYS (just FOUR full weeks)? Jesus Christ. I gained like 20 the past few months and that was very intense for me!
Originally it wasn't 63 pounds (that number seems to go every decade)....it was closer to 25 or 30.
Your right , Casey hadn't trained in 4 to 6 months , he had come completely off gear and was away from the gym. As soon as the experiment started up he was back on gear. All he did was regain from muscle-memory and gear. Also....I have the actual story around here somewhere where....Casey admitted...he said "when Arthur wasn't looking I got in extra sets". He was only HIT when Arthur was looking and same with Boyer.
I also have the story about who trained hardest. Jones said Ray Mentzer and Franco Columbo trained the hardest out of everyone. Mike didn't train near as hard as his brother. And he(Jones)couldn't get Arnold to train to failure.
When is the next history lesson?
i have the Nautilus book. Tells all about the experiment. Interesting read.
Nautilus is not especially scientific IIRC but man I go to a couple gyms with Nautilus equipment and they make great accessories to free weight compound lifts IMO. Love the old silver high end ones too but don't see them as often :)
Thanks a lot for your wonderful videos. I would really appreciate you if you could make a video of Baito Abbaspour. Thank you so much again
from the t-nation article "The Colorado Experiment took place in May of 1973 at Colorado State University. The purpose of the experiment was to produce a high level of muscular growth by training Casey Viator every other day, or 14 times in 28 days, in a supervised university setting.
Nautilus-inventor Arthur Jones personally trained Casey for every workout. Training was intense, progressive, and involved a negative-only repetition style on 50 percent of the exercises.
During the first week alone, Viator gained 27.25 pounds of solid muscle. Repeat: That's 27.25 pounds of muscle in 7 days, or an average of 3.9 pounds of muscle per day. The facts show that during week 1, Viator gained 20.25 pounds of body weight and lost 7 pounds of fat, for a total of 27.25 pounds of muscle mass."
This is a damn good video.
I learnt something. Thanks Nick
Viator admitted years later that he was training on his own after working out with Jones equiptment
Very informative and thanx ,great job.
Great videos Nick,keep it up!
Nick strength and power > Lui
FYI hammer strength is old nautilus design
Another great informative video!
nick can you do a video on Milos Sarcev
nick is killing it nice video
Oops! I'd like to clarify that I, personally never used the ab machines myself. Thank you.
Actually I'm not sure you actually realize how many times you actually say "actually." Love the video, even though old Arthur actually never actually smiled in the actual 70s when he was actually making all those actual millions!
great video. Any info on the system that used air pressure to provide resistance? I used it in the 80s and it was pretty good. You would dial in the psi for the amount of resistance. You could set it so it would go down slightly as u lifted too. It was very much like nautilus as far as size of equipment, but I remember it being more affective