The original ITP story has 6 kids dead, to introduce Andrew. This caused confusion and lead to the conclusion of Andrew not being canon. Then the game released, and intentionally showed that Andrew is separate, with first it being different clothes, and then it switching from 5/5 hats to 6/5 hats. This also still caused confusion, as it was now believed that Andrew was part of the MCI but secret, so then RTTP shows us that the MCI had 5 kids. Andrew could've been killed in 1985 at Freddy's, but he's not part of the incident.
4:48 the big problem with this story is that it’s a retelling of into the pit. Unlike the other 2 stories which were prequel stories this one is a reimagining of a reimagining and characters act completely different
6:31 I've seen all five of the sprites for the RTTP book, there's two girls and three boys, Susie, Cassidy, and Gabriel, Jeremy, Fritz. Seems to work out to me...
Maybe only five children were reported, because they were on the guest list, if Andrew somehow got into Freddy's without being on the guest list, it is plausible that he was not reported, after all his name was not on the list. So this may not have been a mistake or retcon, since if we think about it, it is possible that it did happen, although I have no proof or evidence.
Or Andrew doesn't exist in the games at all, and his inclusion in the original story was to showcase that they aren't in the main continuity but a side continuity that parallels the original with similar events happening in both.
@sh1zuh31 you can solve tge games without frights, so what's your point, genuinely. I mean whether game events happen in the book, that doesn't change anything for the games themselves, they are the original source material and are what every iteration would be based on, of course some game events happen in the books.
The Silver Eyes nor Movie need the games to explain whats going on in them. The fact that the games happen in the Frights and Tales timeline heavily implies they are the same exact timeline.
@sh1zuh31 except they do, in multiple places, also how does frights "need" the games to explain things? It has it's own plot going on, all the games do is give us more context for things, just like with the movies and the games.
@@ItsB1998 there was a women who lost her daughter in TWB and her last name was Andrew. It’s not that far fetched it could be a possibility and explain this whole Andrew stuff
@EmotianalBrat I didn't even mean it like that tbh, I meant it in the way that Andrew was a character that was meant to be a representation of Cassidy for Fazbear Frights. Andrew was already stated to be a boy so he can't literally be Cassidy
Ngl i always saw the Into the Pit events as this pocket dimension. Sort of the world remembering this crazy event that caused a whole bunch of raging spirits and death and what have you. Pittrap/The Yellow Rabbit being this memory of a monster that formed with it. Fact it is not meant to be the REAL version of the MCI, rather a retelling of it. That being said, this aint a canon answer, but if theres proof to back it up, than we can forge something from it
I don't think this "debunks" FrightsFiction, since the book states that a lot of people know about the Ball Pit and things like that, why couldn't someone just come and write Oswald's story in their own way? I think, if anything, it offers the possibility to both have FrightsFiction and FrightsReboot at the same time.
Would be funny if Stick just read the last few pages of the original Frights book just to troll us, only for it to not be in the actual book on the 24th 😅
@ and tell me the evidence that she didn’t, because FNAF 2 makes me this it was at Freddy’s. From what I know the Sliver Eyes is the only place that says it was Freadbears. It honestly more likely that it’s Freddy’s
Although I shouldn’t use Matpat, I’m pretty sure in his FNaF 2 theory, Scott confirmed that almost everything was correct (Minus Phone Guy being Afton), and it used TCTTCFredbear’s
@@CheshireCatMystic and why is that? The back alley in FFPS and Security Puppet look very similar, and it’s implied that FFPP is Fredbear’s in that too.
@@pinkkittykat_1234 so your evidence is that a back alley… looks like a back alley? I mean you want to say it’s Freadbears fine, that’s your interpretation, but that eviction isn’t really compelling to me, so I’m going to continue saying Freddy’s make more sense.
I'm pretty sure Scott is tieing the books together to make the ignorance/removal of one book or series collapse the entire thing. Or in simple terms: you have to believe all or none. I take nearly all books as fully, or mostly canon, with obvious exceptions to things clearly done to fit into the story, explain something, etc. (an example would be Sparky the Dog from the movie, he doesn't have any lore significance, just a fun reference. But the entire ending where it focuses on memories and drawings impacting the animatronics? something we've seen repeated a lot ever since the Fazbear Frights? Yes, absolute significance)
Frights would have to be it's own continuity, that's still Canon but hard to describe version that the Unwithered Truth explained. The games have seven total victims. The count comes from the Toy Chica intermission in UCN, I know it's a sore point to use anything from that cutscene here but LOOK AT THE KILL COUNT; 1 victim preceding the story, the 4 mci kids and 2 kids that have no connection to the MCI group. So Charlotte Emily, Susie, Gabriel, Fritz, Jeremy, Cassidy and 1 unknown who is often forgotten mid story.(I'd recommend looking at the Shadow Bonnie mini game in Fnaf 3.)
OK, so this is gonna sound insane, but I think I get what’s going on with the time travel in return to the pit. Memories are extremely important to fnaf quite literally one of the main way things happen in the series I believe in the Fnaf universe the timeline/history is connected to memories. It’s built on memories of trillions of people When a memory is changed that changes the timeline Because the ballpit is storing those memories it makes it actually possible for the memories to change . By changing them You change the timeline and the course of history. Oswald does enter memories, but because memories of people make the timeline changing them, changes the timeline so it is technically time travel (this is gonna sound insane💀💀💀)
I definitely don’t want that to be true but I could see I remember that scene from the movie where Mike was dreaming and the mci where telling him that he could save garret and they could change it while they were in a dream/memory of the day garret fot kidnapped
@ that still doesn’t explain why he showed up in the other stories but not this one, To me it makes more sense saying that Andre doesn’t or is important to the canon
Because the community voiced how Andrew being an MCI kid retcons the story, hence why the latest and most accurate version of the story, makes it clear he isn't one Stories change over time and being caught up on small details leads you to end up like theorists who were still trying to use the box, despite Scott giving up on it years ago
The last kid was Bonnie. It's always been Bonnie. In the FNAF movie, he is the last kid lured in the opening. In the gravestone section in HW2, he is second to last to Charlie.
Isn't Andrew's purpose to be a stand-in for Cassidy? And jake's purpose is to be a stand-in for cc?, and their story shows us the probable dynamic between cc and Cassidy
@@sh1zuh31 not as in character, as in position cc didn't have cancer :/ I'm saying they're stand ins for the golden duo as in they show us that two souls possessing 1 animatronic is possible.
@sh1zuh31 Well, my bad that's what I meant point is Andrew isn't supposed to exist in the game his whole point is to prove multi possession is possible
Not until Tuesday for the e-book, and the start of next year for the physical copy; although, in true fashion of ANY FNaF book, the latter was put on store shelves early at Barnes & Nobles (likely ahead of the Christmas rush).
@mr.kleen1479 The book is out, it's just not supposed to be release until a few weeks from now. A live read of the entire story has already been done by some friends of mine who got the book early
ngl I am not a frightsficton person I am a stitchlinesgames person but you can’t lie that in universe stories that Fazbear Entertainment wrote would be badass though you bring up very good points in this video that are worth knowing about and also…..you forgot the yellow rabbit floaring it to hit oswald
The original ITP story has 6 kids dead, to introduce Andrew. This caused confusion and lead to the conclusion of Andrew not being canon. Then the game released, and intentionally showed that Andrew is separate, with first it being different clothes, and then it switching from 5/5 hats to 6/5 hats. This also still caused confusion, as it was now believed that Andrew was part of the MCI but secret, so then RTTP shows us that the MCI had 5 kids. Andrew could've been killed in 1985 at Freddy's, but he's not part of the incident.
TL;DR:
William in 1985 right after doing the MCI: "You know what, fuck this one other kid in particular"
People be like Cassidy this Andrew that
But like rip to Michael Brooks who was the first mci ever named but now been forgotten
4:48 the big problem with this story is that it’s a retelling of into the pit.
Unlike the other 2 stories which were prequel stories this one is a reimagining of a reimagining and characters act completely different
6:31 I've seen all five of the sprites for the RTTP book, there's two girls and three boys, Susie, Cassidy, and Gabriel, Jeremy, Fritz. Seems to work out to me...
Maybe only five children were reported, because they were on the guest list, if Andrew somehow got into Freddy's without being on the guest list, it is plausible that he was not reported, after all his name was not on the list. So this may not have been a mistake or retcon, since if we think about it, it is possible that it did happen, although I have no proof or evidence.
Or Andrew doesn't exist in the games at all, and his inclusion in the original story was to showcase that they aren't in the main continuity but a side continuity that parallels the original with similar events happening in both.
You can't solve Frights without the games.
@sh1zuh31 you can solve tge games without frights, so what's your point, genuinely. I mean whether game events happen in the book, that doesn't change anything for the games themselves, they are the original source material and are what every iteration would be based on, of course some game events happen in the books.
The Silver Eyes nor Movie need the games to explain whats going on in them. The fact that the games happen in the Frights and Tales timeline heavily implies they are the same exact timeline.
@sh1zuh31 except they do, in multiple places, also how does frights "need" the games to explain things? It has it's own plot going on, all the games do is give us more context for things, just like with the movies and the games.
How did William become the Man in room 1280?
I don't really see how FrightsReboot would work considering I doubt there's gonna be more interactive novels of Frights stories.
God, people (and by people i mean GIBI) is going to say that this book confirms "Cassidy Andrew" because it says she has curly black hairs
And what’s wrong with that. People can’t have their own interpretations anymore huh?
And they'd be right
@@ItsB1998 there was a women who lost her daughter in TWB and her last name was Andrew. It’s not that far fetched it could be a possibility and explain this whole Andrew stuff
@EmotianalBrat I didn't even mean it like that tbh, I meant it in the way that Andrew was a character that was meant to be a representation of Cassidy for Fazbear Frights.
Andrew was already stated to be a boy so he can't literally be Cassidy
@@ItsB1998 ya ik that’s what I meant too
Ngl i always saw the Into the Pit events as this pocket dimension. Sort of the world remembering this crazy event that caused a whole bunch of raging spirits and death and what have you. Pittrap/The Yellow Rabbit being this memory of a monster that formed with it. Fact it is not meant to be the REAL version of the MCI, rather a retelling of it. That being said, this aint a canon answer, but if theres proof to back it up, than we can forge something from it
I don't think this "debunks" FrightsFiction, since the book states that a lot of people know about the Ball Pit and things like that, why couldn't someone just come and write Oswald's story in their own way? I think, if anything, it offers the possibility to both have FrightsFiction and FrightsReboot at the same time.
Would be funny if Stick just read the last few pages of the original Frights book just to troll us, only for it to not be in the actual book on the 24th 😅
8:02 Well... besides the Silver Eyes Trilogy continuity... No Michael Brooks 😔
Andrew is the 6th kid… forgetting that Charlotte is always group into the MCI but is not a part of that group but also died at Freddy’s.
She did not die at Freddy’s
@ and tell me the evidence that she didn’t, because FNAF 2 makes me this it was at Freddy’s. From what I know the Sliver Eyes is the only place that says it was Freadbears. It honestly more likely that it’s Freddy’s
Although I shouldn’t use Matpat, I’m pretty sure in his FNaF 2 theory, Scott confirmed that almost everything was correct (Minus Phone Guy being Afton), and it used TCTTCFredbear’s
@@CheshireCatMystic and why is that? The back alley in FFPS and Security Puppet look very similar, and it’s implied that FFPP is Fredbear’s in that too.
@@pinkkittykat_1234 so your evidence is that a back alley… looks like a back alley? I mean you want to say it’s Freadbears fine, that’s your interpretation, but that eviction isn’t really compelling to me, so I’m going to continue saying Freddy’s make more sense.
I'm pretty sure Scott is tieing the books together to make the ignorance/removal of one book or series collapse the entire thing. Or in simple terms: you have to believe all or none.
I take nearly all books as fully, or mostly canon, with obvious exceptions to things clearly done to fit into the story, explain something, etc. (an example would be Sparky the Dog from the movie, he doesn't have any lore significance, just a fun reference. But the entire ending where it focuses on memories and drawings impacting the animatronics? something we've seen repeated a lot ever since the Fazbear Frights? Yes, absolute significance)
Frights would have to be it's own continuity, that's still Canon but hard to describe version that the Unwithered Truth explained. The games have seven total victims. The count comes from the Toy Chica intermission in UCN, I know it's a sore point to use anything from that cutscene here but LOOK AT THE KILL COUNT; 1 victim preceding the story, the 4 mci kids and 2 kids that have no connection to the MCI group. So Charlotte Emily, Susie, Gabriel, Fritz, Jeremy, Cassidy and 1 unknown who is often forgotten mid story.(I'd recommend looking at the Shadow Bonnie mini game in Fnaf 3.)
OK, so this is gonna sound insane, but I think I get what’s going on with the time travel in return to the pit.
Memories are extremely important to fnaf quite literally one of the main way things happen in the series
I believe in the Fnaf universe the timeline/history is connected to memories. It’s built on memories of trillions of people
When a memory is changed that changes the timeline
Because the ballpit is storing those memories it makes it actually possible for the memories to change .
By changing them You change the timeline and the course of history.
Oswald does enter memories, but because memories of people make the timeline changing them, changes the timeline so it is technically time travel
(this is gonna sound insane💀💀💀)
I definitely don’t want that to be true but I could see I remember that scene from the movie where Mike was dreaming and the mci where telling him that he could save garret and they could change it while they were in a dream/memory of the day garret fot kidnapped
Why would he be with the MCI in the memory in other tellings while in the canon telling he doesn’t show up?
Because he's not an MCI kid, but died around the same time
@ that still doesn’t explain why he showed up in the other stories but not this one,
To me it makes more sense saying that Andre doesn’t or is important to the canon
Because the community voiced how Andrew being an MCI kid retcons the story, hence why the latest and most accurate version of the story, makes it clear he isn't one
Stories change over time and being caught up on small details leads you to end up like theorists who were still trying to use the box, despite Scott giving up on it years ago
@ well the box is still important it’s just no one can open it,
The last kid was Bonnie. It's always been Bonnie. In the FNAF movie, he is the last kid lured in the opening. In the gravestone section in HW2, he is second to last to Charlie.
Wait I realized Into The Pit (The game) did contain A LOT of continuity errors
0:01 IN WHAT
Isn't Andrew's purpose to be a stand-in for Cassidy? And jake's purpose is to be a stand-in for cc?, and their story shows us the probable dynamic between cc and Cassidy
Andrew is nothing like Cassidy.
@@sh1zuh31 not as in character, as in position cc didn't have cancer :/ I'm saying they're stand ins for the golden duo as in they show us that two souls possessing 1 animatronic is possible.
@AB.TA452 That would be a narrative parallel, not a stand-in
@sh1zuh31 Well, my bad that's what I meant point is Andrew isn't supposed to exist in the game his whole point is to prove multi possession is possible
@AB.TA452 But he does exist in the games?
I'm fairly positive Cassidy didn't fight a giant trash monster???
I got a question, why are people mad? I completely left the twitter community months ago so I have no clue what’s happening.
So FrightsRebootGames isn't canon? :(
0:01 FNAF IRT REFERENCE????????????????2?3?3?3??!!!
Return to the pit came out?
Not until Tuesday for the e-book, and the start of next year for the physical copy; although, in true fashion of ANY FNaF book, the latter was put on store shelves early at Barnes & Nobles (likely ahead of the Christmas rush).
Are there any changes from the original story in the canon route apart from there being 5 MCI kids rather than 6? I didn't catch the live readings
I think Oz also hears the MCI's names, but thats all I've seen
@@sh1zuh31 Ah
Bro, the book hasn’t even came out yet 😭😭
Wait, dudes trying to tell me a book that isn't out yet is fully 100% cannon with a cannon ending and stuff. That's kinda dumb I feel
@mr.kleen1479 The book is out, it's just not supposed to be release until a few weeks from now. A live read of the entire story has already been done by some friends of mine who got the book early
@@sh1zuh31 oh alright, thanks for clarifying :)
@@sh1zuh31 oh ok.
ngl I am not a frightsficton person I am a stitchlinesgames person but you can’t lie that in universe stories that Fazbear Entertainment wrote would be badass though you bring up very good points in this video that are worth knowing about and also…..you forgot the yellow rabbit floaring it to hit oswald
Lol when dude doesnt know what a visual novel is...
Yeah, it took me a good minute to understand what he was talking about...
Andrew isn't canon
Why are you getting so triggered
Guys, kelsey being cassidy debunks cassidyTOYSNHK
Kelsey does NOT believe on payback