The safety issues aren't always obvious. Carbon monoxide or other toxic gases can accumulate in a confined space like the tunnel. I suppose there's some risk of fire or explosion to be assessed as well. Steel barges and tankage can be extremely dangerous to enter without breathing apparatus because the rusting metal absorbs oxygen. Workers go in and don't come out, so uninformed rescuers go in and don't come out. Suffocation can also occur in fermentation tanks. We lost a good winemaker that way, and I lost a friend. I don't know what he was thinking. Maybe he slipped or lost his balance to begin with, but it was the C02 blanket that killed him.
Thanks Mark for the video, hope your loco breakdown wasn't too serious, I have rough idea where the tunnel is, I have a relative buried in a military cemetery, I think Mt Pleasant ?, or Mt View, railwayline just over the road from main highway. Greetings from the mighty Waikato. 😎👌👍
It was not my locomotive, Im just a railway enthusiast. I had been videoing Paloma Gardens on Denlair Road that day and along the way, I just happened to see the fire trucks in the field and figured it was an operational excersize of some sort... Until a friend texted me the reason, then I returned in a hurry. Here is my Paloma video from that same day; ua-cam.com/video/EGu-gpH28uU/v-deo.html Mt View Cemetery is located on State Highway 1 a little North of the Marton turnoff. The Fordell Tunnel is 27 Km from Marton
@@MarkSeconi thanks for replying, much of my railfanning on UA-cam is in America, such as WWOT, JT & Distant Signal to name a few. I have Subscribed to your channel and keep an eye out for your posts. Vernon. 😎👌👍
Definitely possible. However, it's not an uncommon look on NZ diesel locomotives to be this grubby. Hence they're sometimes sent straight into the sea at the harbour for cleaning 😄 😉
Я сам удивлен, что у них за поезда такие. Ну первый локомотив сломался, это ясно, потому и вызвал вспомогательный. Но длина и вес поездов вызывает вопросы. Может подъемы слишком крутые или маломощные локомотивы?
No entiendo, ¿se rompió una locomotora y el tren no puede seguir con la otra? el tren no parece requerir la utilización de dos locomotoras, es muy corto... raro
Maybe you should contact Kiwi Rail, you might just get a consulting contract to advise them about a more efficient use of road power and possibly other money saving programs as well.
Hi Mark!! The gauge used in NZ is narrow 1067mm?? And do you know the brand and model of the locos?? All the best to you and regards from Argentina, Rodolfo
Greetings! Yes, New Zealand uses the 1067 (3'6'') track gauge. They started building the railways here from 1863 onwards. All the lines were short operations linking small coastal or river ports with an inland location. Different gauges were used as each line was independant from the other, with second hand materials and rollingstock that been imported from Europe & Austrailia. In the 1870's a central NZ government was formed and they wanted a national rail network to open up the economy. They decided on the 3'6" gauge. Inland travel was difficult because of the mountains, forests and swamps, so curves had to be tight and there were lots of tunnels to build. It had to be built as cheaply as possible. From the 1960's to the present day, they have enlarged the loading-gauge to accomodate ISO shipping containers. Freight trains are allowed to do a maximum of 85km/hr in New Zealand, but there are many places on the network where trains can only plod along at speeds much lower than that. The piece of line in this video has curves that can take a train at up to 65km/hr. The KiwiRail DL class was manufactured by CRRC Dalian 中车大连机车车辆有限公司 with engines from MTU (Motoren- und Turbinen-Union). Introduced from 2010 onwards, they are the most powerful diesel-electric locos in service in New Zealand (3,600 hp). The class represents the first order for a Chinese-built locomotive from a western country. The 9000 series allocation was chosen for this class of locomotive as the number 9 represents longevity and good luck in Chinese culture. There are 63 of the class in service in 2022. New Zealand followed English railway Diesel-Electric practise in the beginning, but eventually found the North American locomotive companies to provide the most reliable and robust Diesel-Electric locomotives for it's hilly network. But after 1981, no new Diesel-electric locomotives were purchased, as nobody in government or the private sector was interested in investing new locomotives. in 2010, our then centre-right government almost reluctantly put up the money to purchase a new fleet of locomotives from the cheapest bidder possible. It might look over-kill having two big locos on a small train, but the Eight 70 tonne wagons are near the limit for a single DL class on the 'Westmere Bank' further up the line. That gradient averages at about 1/35 (2.86%) but has a section near its top as steep as 1/32 (3.13%). It was opened on 28 June 1879 and is the ruling gradient of the Marton - New Plymouth Line.
"Thomas, since you and James decided to sleep on the job I had to send Percy and Gordon to come get you. Both of you will go back to your sheds until you decide to become useful engines." Until then, Percy and Gordon will run the main branch line. "
I'm afraid I have no idea what the problem was, sorry. I was making my way along a country road, heading somewhere that had nothing to do with train spotting. But I noted the fire brigade in a paddock along the way and realised something was up.
О, брак в работе, вызов вспомогательного локомотива. Знакомая и неприятная ситуация. Приходилось и мне пару раз, за 40 лет работы машинистом, вызывать вспомогательный. Правда неисправности локомотива были такие, что я ничего не мог сделать самостоятельно.
KiwiRail puts 2 locomotives on the train so that if one breaks down; the other can continue. However, in this instance the lead locomotive caught fire in a tunnel, not just broke down (you can see the scorch marks). It was not safe to continue running the train, so crew made the decision to evacuate due to risk of carbon monoxide poisoning in the tunnel.
Um valeuzão pelo post; Mark Seconi , tem parentesco no Brasil? Sou Adroaldo Benedito Secon, filho de Diniz Secon e Thereza Secon ; Mi papa era filho de Tereza Possato ;papa i nona immemoriam.
Great Video Mark, interesting subject, thanks for sharing
thankyou
Very beautiful & timed video. Greetings from Srilanka 👍👍
I like that"look for trains"sign instead of look out for trains 😁
Yeah, I notice it & was amazed! Sometimes silly things help to smile!!
(Mon 11 Oct 2021 21h58)
@@DifferentSaturner yeah it does aside from all nonsense going on these days 😊
@@midnyte6195 Agree
@@DifferentSaturner oh I subbed your channel 😊
@@midnyte6195 Thank you!
Country is beautiful.
Thanks for the excellent Video enjoyed watching it 👍 Greetings from India 🙏 Beautiful New Zealand.
HAFSA
@@rakibhossain4710 p by CT
The rescue locomotive was amazing. Thank you for sharing
Thanks for make video.
WONDERFULL.... THE UNION MAKE ... THE STRENGHT OR UNITED MAKE POWER VERY NICE VIDEO
Wow. The country side looks so much like Scotland. Beautiful! 🌳🌳
Amazing.👍👍👍👍
Wow, the track & roadbed are in pristine condition. . .very well maintained 👍🚂
And no ugly graffiti painted all over the railroad cars like it is here in the US! What an eyesore! Taggers need to be caned when caught!🛤
Barely any services along that line is why
Very little use. All on trucks
Very Nice video
Bravo, New Zealand. You have a cargo trains..🤠😱
Thanks you for sharing
We sure do have some beautiful scenery here! And diesel locomotives are my favourite! So this to me was very enjoyable to watch, thank you! 😍
Great video bro
The safety issues aren't always obvious. Carbon monoxide or other toxic gases can accumulate in a confined space like the tunnel. I suppose there's some risk of fire or explosion to be assessed as well.
Steel barges and tankage can be extremely dangerous to enter without breathing apparatus because the rusting metal absorbs oxygen. Workers go in and don't come out, so uninformed rescuers go in and don't come out.
Suffocation can also occur in fermentation tanks. We lost a good winemaker that way, and I lost a friend. I don't know what he was thinking. Maybe he slipped or lost his balance to begin with, but it was the C02 blanket that killed him.
Nice video
Super Bro
🌹Nice view🌹👍
Thanks Mark for the video, hope your loco breakdown wasn't too serious, I have rough idea where the tunnel is, I have a relative buried in a military cemetery, I think Mt Pleasant ?, or Mt View, railwayline just over the road from main highway.
Greetings from the mighty Waikato. 😎👌👍
It was not my locomotive, Im just a railway enthusiast. I had been videoing Paloma Gardens on Denlair Road that day and along the way, I just happened to see the fire trucks in the field and figured it was an operational excersize of some sort... Until a friend texted me the reason, then I returned in a hurry. Here is my Paloma video from that same day; ua-cam.com/video/EGu-gpH28uU/v-deo.html Mt View Cemetery is located on State Highway 1 a little North of the Marton turnoff. The Fordell Tunnel is 27 Km from Marton
@@MarkSeconi thanks for replying, much of my railfanning on UA-cam is in America, such as WWOT, JT & Distant Signal to name a few.
I have Subscribed to your channel and keep an eye out for your posts.
Vernon.
😎👌👍
Thankyou
Helping hands? Great job!
(Mon 11 Oct 2021 21h59)
Great video. 💙 T.E.N.
Parabens pi belo vídeo. Lindo lugar bela curva.
Seems like a lot of soot/oil plastered over the lead loco. Without inspecting loco in question I would think engine damage /failure
Definitely possible. However, it's not an uncommon look on NZ diesel locomotives to be this grubby. Hence they're sometimes sent straight into the sea at the harbour for cleaning 😄 😉
простите а что такое тяжёлое в 8 цистернах что два локомотива не смогли вытянуть и пришлось ещё два вызывать?
Я сам удивлен, что у них за поезда такие. Ну первый локомотив сломался, это ясно, потому и вызвал вспомогательный. Но длина и вес поездов вызывает вопросы. Может подъемы слишком крутые или маломощные локомотивы?
زبردست جناب 🌹🇵🇰🇵🇰🇵🇰
No entiendo, ¿se rompió una locomotora y el tren no puede seguir con la otra? el tren no parece requerir la utilización de dos locomotoras, es muy corto... raro
Is it to be removed in FORDELL ?
Excepcional!! Tiro o meu chapéu para essa maravilha... 🤔😃😃👏👏👏👏
So two locos couldn't move that small amount of cars?
esas locomotora traen wevos, es admirable la potencia de los trenes.
Мощные тепловозы - аж восемь бочек тянут ! Ахринеть !!!
мне вот интересно пожарки тут при чем ?)
Может они со ртутью))))
So good bro
Nice 👍👍
Where's the rest of it ?
Four engines, 8 cars. Sounds like an efficiency drive to me.
Maybe you should contact Kiwi Rail, you might just get a consulting contract to advise them about a more efficient use of road power and possibly other money saving programs as well.
@@JohnHill-qo3hb he/she should haha
4 x the power that all👀😫
Awsome!
Hi Mark!! The gauge used in NZ is narrow 1067mm?? And do you know the brand and model of the locos?? All the best to you and regards from Argentina, Rodolfo
Greetings! Yes, New Zealand uses the 1067 (3'6'') track gauge. They started building the railways here from 1863 onwards. All the lines were short operations linking small coastal or river ports with an inland location. Different gauges were used as each line was independant from the other, with second hand materials and rollingstock that been imported from Europe & Austrailia. In the 1870's a central NZ government was formed and they wanted a national rail network to open up the economy. They decided on the 3'6" gauge. Inland travel was difficult because of the mountains, forests and swamps, so curves had to be tight and there were lots of tunnels to build. It had to be built as cheaply as possible. From the 1960's to the present day, they have enlarged the loading-gauge to accomodate ISO shipping containers. Freight trains are allowed to do a maximum of 85km/hr in New Zealand, but there are many places on the network where trains can only plod along at speeds much lower than that. The piece of line in this video has curves that can take a train at up to 65km/hr.
The KiwiRail DL class was manufactured by CRRC Dalian 中车大连机车车辆有限公司 with engines from MTU (Motoren- und Turbinen-Union). Introduced from 2010 onwards, they are the most powerful diesel-electric locos in service in New Zealand (3,600 hp). The class represents the first order for a Chinese-built locomotive from a western country. The 9000 series allocation was chosen for this class of locomotive as the number 9 represents longevity and good luck in Chinese culture. There are 63 of the class in service in 2022.
New Zealand followed English railway Diesel-Electric practise in the beginning, but eventually found the North American locomotive companies to provide the most reliable and robust Diesel-Electric locomotives for it's hilly network. But after 1981, no new Diesel-electric locomotives were purchased, as nobody in government or the private sector was interested in investing new locomotives. in 2010, our then centre-right government almost reluctantly put up the money to purchase a new fleet of locomotives from the cheapest bidder possible.
It might look over-kill having two big locos on a small train, but the Eight 70 tonne wagons are near the limit for a single DL class on the 'Westmere Bank' further up the line. That gradient averages at about 1/35 (2.86%) but has a section near its top as steep as 1/32 (3.13%). It was opened on 28 June 1879 and is the ruling gradient of the Marton - New Plymouth Line.
ทำไมเห็นมีแต่รถสินค้าครับ? ช่วยถ่ายรถโดยสารมาให้ดูหน่อยนะครับ ขอบคุณมากครับ/เด็กไทย from Thailand.
"Thomas, since you and James decided to sleep on the job I had to send Percy and Gordon to come get you. Both of you will go back to your sheds until you decide to become useful engines." Until then, Percy and Gordon will run the main branch line. "
Thomas
Поезд буксирует😃👍👍
That's train 544 mark, 545 was waiting for it at Easttown
I waited for 9129 a few days ago at the lights :)
Llpol0llll
Train number 542 use to run between Stratford and Taumarunui.
Gostei muito bem Boa noite
And guess what? The rescue engines were NOT Chinese DLs!
Look closer - one is.
The front one is, the other one is bot, I can't be too bothered looking for details to see what it is.
Sorry NOT, accidentally wrote BOT
Wawuu .where ?
Broken loco? How did it get there? So, just a pulling action.
¡¡ Hermosos Paisajes !!! .
For some reason I expected a much longer train.
Any idea what packed a sad on the lead unit?
+Reflex Photography NZ No sorry
Reflex Photography NZ something happen in the cab it self control
I'm afraid I have no idea what the problem was, sorry. I was making my way along a country road, heading somewhere that had nothing to do with train spotting. But I noted the fire brigade in a paddock along the way and realised something was up.
a lot of locomotive like the 626 was like that years ago I saw it in hamz
I thought the whole idea behind having 2 DLs on a train was so that if one of them broke down, the other one could still handle the train.
Steve Young yea but it's safety for Kiwirail when the engine not running it won't move cause been on fire
Robert Alexander Aha. Didn't realise it was that bad.
Yeah you can see the burnt parts on the beginning
@@robrockalexander6618 h.
what were the two fire appliances for?
Read the video description.
Esos carrotanques que transportan? Más o menos manejaba cómo 800 Ton,si esque iba cargado?y si no pues sería menos.
Primeiro vídeo ficou muito top esse trem.
Train ko dekh dil khuh ho jata hi Bachpin se train ko passend kerta hon
Two engines can't pull 8 cars?!
if you have no tunnel motors, the engines die inside along tunnel. Other solution is better ventilation !
Jen 8 vagónů?
Ouch fire and loco down
Where is the Fordell tunnel?
The Fordell Tunnel is on the Marton - New Plymouth Line in New Zealand
Super
nice
This countryside looks like Hobbiton! So beautiful!!
thats new zealand not hobbiton
lindo paisaje que hermoso tren
Bos, bagus and mantap mantul, Iam from in Indonesia my big boss
О, брак в работе, вызов вспомогательного локомотива. Знакомая и неприятная ситуация. Приходилось и мне пару раз, за 40 лет работы машинистом, вызывать вспомогательный. Правда неисправности локомотива были такие, что я ничего не мог сделать самостоятельно.
Muy Interessante!! Linea ferea um pouco igual a de Brazil
super .சூப்பர்
😮 diesel runaway ?
harika bi video .
نأمل منكم وضع اسم الموقع يعني اسم المدينه والدوله في أول الفيديو بالعربي او بالانجليزي
Two locos to pull 8 cars? Wha? And it STALLS?
KiwiRail puts 2 locomotives on the train so that if one breaks down; the other can continue.
However, in this instance the lead locomotive caught fire in a tunnel, not just broke down (you can see the scorch marks). It was not safe to continue running the train, so crew made the decision to evacuate due to risk of carbon monoxide poisoning in the tunnel.
a train with a heavy load until it is not strong and is assisted by two more locomotives
എന്തുവാടെ ഇത് , 6 വാഗണ് 2 എന്ജിനോ
บรรทุกอะไร ดูเหมือนหนักจัง
👌👌👌
ua-cam.com/video/swWh45knSms/v-deo.html museo del Ferrocarril aún se puede hacer subir y dar una vuelta en una antigua máquina de vapor
Almost as many engines as the wagons? Looks like KIWI engines are heavily under rated to get fuel efficiency. But this is too much to witness!
Um valeuzão pelo post; Mark Seconi , tem parentesco no Brasil? Sou Adroaldo Benedito Secon, filho de Diniz Secon e Thereza Secon ; Mi papa era filho de Tereza Possato ;papa i nona immemoriam.
Hi. Meu nome de família é da Itália.
Остановились бы .... !
โอ้โฮแรงม้าเยอะจริงๆครับ
Вспомогательный запросил
Kiwi Relief Train !!
Ferrovia precária.
고갯길 경사가 아주 센 곳인가 보구나!
Very buityfull country ..😍
I'llio
Четыре секции тянут всего восемь вагонов!Похожи на трамваи,а не тепловозы....
🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
Ms.i
Ну и зачем это снимать???
Показать на весь мир, какие они сильные. 🤔😊
Ok
🤤🤤
😭😭
Shatrughan Kumar Arun Kumar Cena
И что
Beer
Weeeeeek engine
Hi