I agree but the worse dynamic range is kinda the reason the h10 is better. This might be improved with firmware, but the 24 fps will not unless the goggles can support a lower frame rate. Saving my money for the h11 mini
@@NURKFPV you’ll be playing with this concept? You were one of the first people I saw that talked about GyroFlow when it first came out? Why was this not the default comparison?
I'm curious to wait for the first firmware update for the Avata before taking it apart - DJI often mentioned about 24fps on the DJI FPV drone, perhaps they will finally deliver for the Avata
Hey Nurk! Great video. I think it would be great if you keep making videos on the Avata occasionally, a lot of people will be coming into the hobby because of the Avata, and your channel is an amazing entry point to the world of cinematic fpv with a lot of educational content
Thank you for posting this teardown to show where to tap power the easiest off this quad. I am seriously thinking of adding a ViFly battery backed buzzer to the Avata at that location instead. More than one occasion my friends have almost lost their Avata because it powers off too quickly before it can be located with ESC beeps. There has got to be some way for DJI to do a firmware update to keep the motors beeping, but power down the video transmitter so it doesn't overheat and need to shut down... but attaching a buzzer (probably wired to a 5v bec from this location) should work in the meantime.
I’m thinking about putting an apple AirTag on mine for that exact reason. The more I look into how the AirTag works though I’m not sure it would help where I tend to fly. Have you looked into that approach? I think they weigh 11g
@@SkeezyFPV My friend and I have tried an Apple AirTag. where we flew - which is effectively the middle of nowhere - the Avata can only be seen my by phone within 75-50ft while it’s on the ground. I don’t get any direction it’s in until I’m close to it. The range is short, I was using iPhone 12 Pro Max, I would worry about even worse range if it was stuck in tall weeds.
@@JohnCuppi that’s exactly what I was suspecting would happen after learning that they are basically an overhyped Bluetooth device that doesn’t do squat unless it’s within 35ish feet of an area with a constant flow of people and traffic carrying cellular networked devices. I think the apple genius behind the AirTag probably worked in the marketing department rather than on the design/engineering side hahaha. I guess i can see their place in the world but I don’t think it’s in remote tracking of shit I lose in the woods.
Hello, I am using this adaptation with a gopro 11 naked, and something strange happens when I turn it on and that is that the number of satellites drops, sometimes even to zero, could you help me with that? Thank!!
Would it be possible to do the whole wiring, but have it be a usb c output for something like a GoPro mini 11? Is so, what supplies / modifications would be necessary? Thank you.
I get the same microvibrations in full M-mode on the action 2, with ND, mounted on the dji FPV. Possibly, the stabilization algorithm of dji works poorly in lowish light with ND.
Not really a fair comparison of using ReelSteady post processing vs Rocksteady in-camera stabilization. Either compare both with in-camera or both with post processing.
Hello, what do you do if you have to use a balance lc filter, like the ones that come with Flywoo's GoPro Naked, because the balancer has a plug like that of 6s batteries. Thanks for listening.
would it be possible to engineer a intermediary plug in-between the battery and where it connects to the drone? so this intermediary could theoretically be the connection point for where the go pro connects to? That make sense?
You guys realize that we can use 4s LiIon packs on 3inch cinewhoops to get the same flight time as avata if not better. Until avata came out people would not consider using LiIon on cinewhoops because they were on the heavy side but now ... As for parking it maybe the BF comunity would start prioritizing gps features more. Instead of being over focused on filtering and ripping maybe its time to think about usability.
Put a 4s 3000mAh VTC6 or similar LiIon pack on a light weight 5" and you will easily get 12-14min of flight time with a full gopro. On a 3/3.5inch cinewhoop with a naked gopro you will get a similar flight time. There is no magic inside the avata, just a good old LiIon pack. Same goes for Mavic 3 which flies forever and has a 4s2p LiIon pack with 2500mAh.
Did you ever get to the bottom of wobble, I fly in normal a lot and will be adding a naked 11 very soon as the 03 is no good in dark environments, wondered if it was the mount to the fact that it was in normal mode?
@@carlosmora8535 yes first flight awful totally unusable footage. Think is it down to the mount so currently awaiting a different mount. Far too much shaking
I followed your advice to the tee and the camera powered on perfect but when I went to fly it immediately broke a prop and fly into the wall, what do you think I may have done wrong 😢?
Totally agree Paul! Great little drone..but camera has a little to be desired. Shadows and range isn't quite on-par with GoPro Bones...I'll be wiring mine up with the GoPro Bones...thanks!!!
@@ugpfpv361 Could you please explain what's not simple in Gyroflow? Literally drag & drop and hit export, all defaults are good for GoPro and Avata. What can be made simpler? I'm genuinely curious. Yes it has a lot of options, but you don't have to touch any to get good results. Also could you please elaborate on reliability? Reelsteady can't do proper horizon lock on Hero 8 (adds jitter), or Hero 9,10 with hypersmooth (not available) for example, while in Gyroflow it all works correctly. The only thing that Reelsteady does better is stabilizing Superview
thanks, i was about to pull the trigger on the avata but this makes me think twice before sinking thousands. im deciding between new action cams or new drone, so i think ill just get a new GP10 or 11
now you are able to stabilize your footage with gyrofly know. The avatar is the first dji drone wich is compatible with gyro fly. Try this an compare it to the Reelsteady from gro pro it would be interesting.
I've currently got a Flywoo GP10 (diy naked kit version) on it. Im getting crazy vibrations in the footage. Trying to decide if the board in Flywoo is missing a screw or something. Gonna rebuild it again tomo but I see u have vibes too in the GPS mode. Also got a 'no sufficient power' message in the Goggles with about 40% batt. I'm tapped into the Avata power like u but the wee fan on the Flywoo might have tipped it over the edge re power draw. I'd love to get this working as the Avata cam is nowhere near as good as GP and the reliable GPS and flight time is a game changer for a whoop.
You can also just use gopro sticker mount on each battery, have gopro in center of gravity without interfering GPS. BUT you have to remove gopro after each new battery 😀
What about epoxying a cf platform across the top over the battery to the frame or even a piece of titanium and mounting the gp to that or would it interfere with the insertion of the battery? I think it would be ideal to move it back over the cog and away from the gps. I got mine Thursday and immediately noticed the contrast issues as most of my flying tends to be east and west for some odd reason. It’s almost like I have to plan all of my shots based on time of day and location of sun using the avata camera. I thought it was just me as a relative noob lol
how much photogrammetry projects have you done, ie, gps+imu+images/video, per frame localization data, to a pre-localized image photogrammetry algorithm software
even if you use only normal li-ion/lifepo batteries, a tilt wing edf spin copter should have 3x flight times, ie, 3x efficiency, compared to normal drone
@@DucTaZenSurfer yeah when I heard that I was bummed, hoping that the mini put that weight into being tougher, more durable, at least you don't have to worry as much about breaking screens, LoL
@@ugpfpv361 lol, that was exactly my thought when I saw it! Two things the Mini solves me would be no screen to break and there is a built in battery! But yea, that weight sucks.
Awesome video, thanks for sharing, however, I'm not sure you had to loosen the motors. I'm not seeing how that helped, but anyway, I'll do it that way if I want to mount a bones. Thanks for the awesome instructions on this.
Paul, do you know if its scientifically possible to change startup tune of avata? DJI FPV drone sounds like starwards mean thing that feels like its mean and has that grrr shivers down your spine sound but avata sounds like a little kitten that sneezed. I seriously don't know why they opted to have that "polite" startup sound. Do you think its possible to potentially change the sound?
This might be dumb question: what is the hardware you use? Ie the wiring you prefer etc for a newbie like me. With your help I could totally do this jsut need to know correct wiring to get
Q: Why would you need to shoot at 24/30 fps as opposed to 60? Isnt there some sort of 'downsampling' process where it takes only 24 of the 60 frames out there?
Awesome video Nurk! But why not just use Original Dobo's "Bad Idea" and strap your Bone that that? I think with that one, it doesn't block the GPS. I will definitely be doing the same thing with my Bone when I eventually get the Avata. I actually just picked up a DroneCo Slammed Squirt 4s and man, am I loving that thing. Love the tutorial as well, thank you for taking the time to put that out there.
@@OriginaldoBo @NURKFPV I love how small and helpful the FPV community is. Ken at OG DOBO and NURK were the few people that were so kind in my early days of learning FPV. They always answered all my annoying fpv questions about product or gear! Thanks guys. 7 drones later and in debt, well worth stepping in the hobby!
If you on to solder to battery line and do full service of drone, then just why avata and not normal cinewoop? Not sure, that this make any sense) From legal perspective this is also killing any certification (C1/C2...) Because of drone modification.
Hi Nurk...thanks for this. With the possible exception of stabilizing software, I prefer the Avata. Obviously, it is not a Red camera. I think the Avata manages the backlighting more realistically. Yes, it's dark. It should be. It's backlight. By contrast, the GoPro appears to crank up the exposure with resultant noise too excessive to weed out. To me, the Avata footage appears much sharper, which is not good, but if that matters to someone, we can blur it in post. I'm also partial to DJI coloring being on the cool side of the Kelvin and GoPro on the warm side. That's just my taste. Beginning at 15:40, which camera footage is being used? Don't know if it's a result of YT compression, but that is really bad. Watch the left side of the track. At least twice the track appears to split up. That can't be useable. I would stick with the Avata footage. My two cents. Thanks for putting this together.
The terrible thing about this video is that Nurk completely ignored the fact that the Avata has gyro data and can be stabilized with the FREE GyroFlow software in the same way he actually stabilized the GoPro footage with Reelsteady.
@@williebobsmith980 in one of the comments nurk said he was going to do that in a separate video. I agree it’s not a fair comparison. Having just received my avata whoop the other day I haven’t had a chance to mess with gyroflow. I’ve been too busy either flying it or watching videos on how to fly it better lol. I love the drone.
@@SkeezyFPV I just don’t understand why the default comparison wouldn’t automatically be either in-camera to in-camera or post-processed to post-processed instead of in-camera to post-processed. Makes no sense to me for someone to do that without an agenda.
It’s the soap opera effect. Ever walk into a bestbuy watching a movie demo on one of those huge displays and notice although it looks very colorful, everything moves as if it’s a behind the scenes footage. It’s as though it was taken from a video camera and not shot in film. High frame rates are super smooth but make action sequences feel somewhat fake (soap opera effect) you see every flaw and lose some of that realism or weight 24fps brings. It’s also an industry standard. I think he’d rather have a 48fps mode than 60. I would hope there is conversion software that could interpolate a better 60 to 24 transfer. Maybe DJI can update the firmware or at least fix the auto exposure settings.
Thanks for the video! Great info. And yes; yes we would like to know what screwdriver that is, and what bits you're using that don't fold over like tissue paper after removing 3 screws! 🙂
Nice creativity and informative video! I wouldn't be surprised if DJI isn't planning some updates for the camera and other accessories or even an updated drone (just put an "s" on the end. lol). This is why I don't buy new DJI drones when they first come out. Basically, the consumers are the beta testers.
My avata flies glorious right out of the box with all the kit I have from the original fpv combo. I bought that and the avata drone at the same time. After a $150 Amazon discount I basically got the goggles v2, the fpv 2 controller instead of the motion controller, and the two quads for less than $1,500. I feel like I won the lottery lol. Great info nurk and I look forward to more of your avata content specifically!!
Impressively neat wiring for the camera. Really nice. But those micro stutters in GPS modes are quite an issue... I'm not sure it's because of the camera covering the GPS - could just be that the drone's control algorithms are struggling with the extra weight - would be curious to hear whether that stutter still happens if you mount the camera further back (i.e. on the battery). Those stutters make GPS modes essentially unusable, which is a bit of a deal killer to me, but of course, if you pretty much always fly in manual mode for filmmaking then I can see how this would work really well for you.
gps is very sensitive to interference and the antenna is directional towards the top (about 180°). fix could be as simple as shielding tape on the back of the gopro. just speculation though.
@@drkastenbrot GoPro actually hangs slightly over the GPS from what I can tell. If any part of it is over the GPS then putting shielding tape over it will actually make things worse - since it will block the GPS signals too.
@@Vousie it may still help as long as the gps antenna has a clear line to most of the sky. there are satellites from all directions and if you can get rid of interference by blocking off one side that could still be good enough. best case would be keeping the area above and next to the antenna clear though.
@@NURKFPV I guess you could quick test it with doublesided tape to the battery and replace with Velcro so that the mount is totally optional. Add Velcro to the other batteries. I am going to shut up now and watch the rest of your video. 👍🏻
It'd be nice to see Reelsteady on the GoPro vs Gyroflow on the built-in camera side by side, since Avata supports Gyroflow
I'll be playing with this concept
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I agree but the worse dynamic range is kinda the reason the h10 is better. This might be improved with firmware, but the 24 fps will not unless the goggles can support a lower frame rate. Saving my money for the h11 mini
@@NURKFPV you’ll be playing with this concept? You were one of the first people I saw that talked about GyroFlow when it first came out? Why was this not the default comparison?
I'm curious to wait for the first firmware update for the Avata before taking it apart - DJI often mentioned about 24fps on the DJI FPV drone, perhaps they will finally deliver for the Avata
Do you think if the bones was moved back to the middle of the Avata the little glitch would go away in GPS mode?
I had those vibrations also on the gorpo with the DJI FPV in m mode.
THANK YOU NURK!!! My first time soldering and followed this step by step - we're up and running!
Hey Nurk! Great video. I think it would be great if you keep making videos on the Avata occasionally, a lot of people will be coming into the hobby because of the Avata, and your channel is an amazing entry point to the world of cinematic fpv with a lot of educational content
i invested in the goggles v2 and dji controller earlier in the year. DJI could sell a butt ton of drones if they made it backwards compatible.
Your such an underrated youtuber
This was great! When I connected my wires from the Bones, the Avata battery would shut off...what did I do wrong?
Thank you for posting this teardown to show where to tap power the easiest off this quad. I am seriously thinking of adding a ViFly battery backed buzzer to the Avata at that location instead. More than one occasion my friends have almost lost their Avata because it powers off too quickly before it can be located with ESC beeps. There has got to be some way for DJI to do a firmware update to keep the motors beeping, but power down the video transmitter so it doesn't overheat and need to shut down... but attaching a buzzer (probably wired to a 5v bec from this location) should work in the meantime.
I’m thinking about putting an apple AirTag on mine for that exact reason. The more I look into how the AirTag works though I’m not sure it would help where I tend to fly. Have you looked into that approach? I think they weigh 11g
@@SkeezyFPV My friend and I have tried an Apple AirTag.
where we flew - which is effectively the middle of nowhere - the Avata can only be seen my by phone within 75-50ft while it’s on the ground.
I don’t get any direction it’s in until I’m close to it. The range is short, I was using iPhone 12 Pro Max, I would worry about even worse range if it was stuck in tall weeds.
@@JohnCuppi that’s exactly what I was suspecting would happen after learning that they are basically an overhyped Bluetooth device that doesn’t do squat unless it’s within 35ish feet of an area with a constant flow of people and traffic carrying cellular networked devices. I think the apple genius behind the AirTag probably worked in the marketing department rather than on the design/engineering side hahaha. I guess i can see their place in the world but I don’t think it’s in remote tracking of shit I lose in the woods.
Hello, I am using this adaptation with a gopro 11 naked, and something strange happens when I turn it on and that is that the number of satellites drops, sometimes even to zero, could you help me with that? Thank!!
YESS A NURK VIDEO!!!
That's the one
Would it be possible to do the whole wiring, but have it be a usb c output for something like a GoPro mini 11? Is so, what supplies / modifications would be necessary? Thank you.
Thanks for taking the time to make this video and including the instructions on setting the cables up, much appreciated!
I get the same microvibrations in full M-mode on the action 2, with ND, mounted on the dji FPV.
Possibly, the stabilization algorithm of dji works poorly in lowish light with ND.
Did you try to record in 50/60 fps? This helped me to reduce the micro vibrations in the footage.
@@kove_sr No, since I was keen on the cinematic feel...
Not really a fair comparison of using ReelSteady post processing vs Rocksteady in-camera stabilization. Either compare both with in-camera or both with post processing.
Right?! Why didn't he compare realsteady with gyroflow?
we need a tutorial also for the new Avata 2!!
Hello, what do you do if you have to use a balance lc filter, like the ones that come with Flywoo's GoPro Naked, because the balancer has a plug like that of 6s batteries. Thanks for listening.
Love the video!!!! Well done good sir. Good luck on your upcoming project. Excited to see the results. Also, your intro is bomb.
Great tutorial, Nurk. It helps me understand how to replace the ducts. Btw, with this kind of build, we'd say: Bye bye turtle mode!" 🤣
Is this the same for Gopro 8 Naked? About Voltages
would it be possible to engineer a intermediary plug in-between the battery and where it connects to the drone? so this intermediary could theoretically be the connection point for where the go pro connects to?
That make sense?
Great video, Could you please share the total extra weight of the GoPro + mount?
If you can't use the the gps assisted features because of the jitter then why use avata+bones over a standard diy cinewhoop?
oS3 video, flight duration, and "parking" in the air
You guys realize that we can use 4s LiIon packs on 3inch cinewhoops to get the same flight time as avata if not better. Until avata came out people would not consider using LiIon on cinewhoops because they were on the heavy side but now ...
As for parking it maybe the BF comunity would start prioritizing gps features more. Instead of being over focused on filtering and ripping maybe its time to think about usability.
@@AerialMediapro what 4s drone is getting the same flight times as the avata?
Put a 4s 3000mAh VTC6 or similar LiIon pack on a light weight 5" and you will easily get 12-14min of flight time with a full gopro. On a 3/3.5inch cinewhoop with a naked gopro you will get a similar flight time. There is no magic inside the avata, just a good old LiIon pack. Same goes for Mavic 3 which flies forever and has a 4s2p LiIon pack with 2500mAh.
Where do I buy the wire?
Love this, not limiting yourself to one eco system
Take the best of both worlds
Except you not. No replacement parts except hull. No option to buy off the shelf sensors or camera.
I wanna know what that drill is. Rotary tool? Link?
My wire isn’t long enough is there a certain wire you bought??
Is it possible to wire a usb c to power regular gopros?
Totally do it the same way just make sure the usb has a regulator.
@@NURKFPV I used an iflight balance plug to usb c and was able to get it to work. Thank you so much for the inspiration!
Gotta see reelsteady on the bones VS gyro-flow on the avata might have to look into modifying an avata ✈️
Did you ever get to the bottom of wobble, I fly in normal a lot and will be adding a naked 11 very soon as the 03 is no good in dark environments, wondered if it was the mount to the fact that it was in normal mode?
Did you ever get the naked 11, I've seen videos and I'm half tempted to buy a kit for it and mount it to avata
@@carlosmora8535 yes first flight awful totally unusable footage. Think is it down to the mount so currently awaiting a different mount. Far too much shaking
Are you leaving the Shendrone squirt on the shelf now ? great video and creative tinkering thank you ! 👍😎
No way
I followed your advice to the tee and the camera powered on perfect but when I went to fly it immediately broke a prop and fly into the wall, what do you think I may have done wrong 😢?
Dji makes a mounting system for the avata. To mount any Acton camera.
Nice walk through on that build.
what about fastening a INSTA360 GO 2 on the Avata?? compared to the Gopro Bones? and whats the veightdiff have to say.
Honestly I think the avata camera is better than go2
Totally agree Paul! Great little drone..but camera has a little to be desired. Shadows and range isn't quite on-par with GoPro Bones...I'll be wiring mine up with the GoPro Bones...thanks!!!
How come you didn't compare reelsteadied gopro with gyroflowed avata? Reelsteady vs RockSteady is comparing apples to oranges
Cause I haven't gotten everything dialed with gyroflow on my avata
Yeah, but I just think reelsteady is just so simple and more important, reliable. But would be interesting to see.
@@ugpfpv361 Could you please explain what's not simple in Gyroflow? Literally drag & drop and hit export, all defaults are good for GoPro and Avata. What can be made simpler? I'm genuinely curious. Yes it has a lot of options, but you don't have to touch any to get good results. Also could you please elaborate on reliability? Reelsteady can't do proper horizon lock on Hero 8 (adds jitter), or Hero 9,10 with hypersmooth (not available) for example, while in Gyroflow it all works correctly. The only thing that Reelsteady does better is stabilizing Superview
@@AdrianEddy really I'll have to give it a try again, I admit it's been a while since I've tried it, gotta love open source!!
@@AdrianEddy and if it's as quick as reelsteady, even better.
That you are choosing to use Avata as a platform in commercial work over other whoops says all I need to know about its worthiness as a piece of kit.
Ohhh i dont know if he is. Did he say that?
What do you mean by gps mode? It is only for return to home.
why didn;t you use gyroflow ?
Does anyone know what is the power cable for the the gopro called?
thanks, i was about to pull the trigger on the avata but this makes me think twice before sinking thousands. im deciding between new action cams or new drone, so i think ill just get a new GP10 or 11
now you are able to stabilize your footage with gyrofly know. The avatar is the first dji drone wich is compatible with gyro fly. Try this an compare it to the Reelsteady from gro pro it would be interesting.
I've currently got a Flywoo GP10 (diy naked kit version) on it. Im getting crazy vibrations in the footage. Trying to decide if the board in Flywoo is missing a screw or something. Gonna rebuild it again tomo but I see u have vibes too in the GPS mode. Also got a 'no sufficient power' message in the Goggles with about 40% batt. I'm tapped into the Avata power like u but the wee fan on the Flywoo might have tipped it over the edge re power draw. I'd love to get this working as the Avata cam is nowhere near as good as GP and the reliable GPS and flight time is a game changer for a whoop.
Any update on your issue? I'm interested in getting a kit for the hero 11 but want to know if this is still an issue when hardwiring to avata
You can also just use gopro sticker mount on each battery, have gopro in center of gravity without interfering GPS. BUT you have to remove gopro after each new battery 😀
I thought about that too but wanted a smoother situation
What about epoxying a cf platform across the top over the battery to the frame or even a piece of titanium and mounting the gp to that or would it interfere with the insertion of the battery? I think it would be ideal to move it back over the cog and away from the gps. I got mine Thursday and immediately noticed the contrast issues as most of my flying tends to be east and west for some odd reason. It’s almost like I have to plan all of my shots based on time of day and location of sun using the avata camera. I thought it was just me as a relative noob lol
Why didn't use Gyroflow for the comparison?
how much photogrammetry projects have you done, ie, gps+imu+images/video, per frame localization data, to a pre-localized image photogrammetry algorithm software
even if you use only normal li-ion/lifepo batteries, a tilt wing edf spin copter should have 3x flight times, ie, 3x efficiency, compared to normal drone
smooth your automatic movements
Great video! Glad you made this, will be doing this to mine tonight. Maybe GoPro will do a 11 bones in the future.
Maybe! I wonder if the mini is light enough too.
@@NURKFPV They say that mini is like 10-15 grams lighter than the GoPro 11, definitely not as light as the Bones for sure.
@@DucTaZenSurfer yeah when I heard that I was bummed, hoping that the mini put that weight into being tougher, more durable, at least you don't have to worry as much about breaking screens, LoL
@@ugpfpv361 lol, that was exactly my thought when I saw it! Two things the Mini solves me would be no screen to break and there is a built in battery! But yea, that weight sucks.
@@NURKFPV mini is 133g, better just get the "big" one and power it same way as this + BEC + USB adapter.
The 11 mini may be a great base for an 11-bones (shape of the circuit board). Hope it'll be available in Europe if that happens.
Why is no one doing this?!?!
Thanks for this !! ❤ same for a GP9 naked with the batterie voltage ?
I have the same doubt
Heeey Nathan, I did a test, and YES, it works on the gopro hero 8 naked. check it out on my instagram stories @fozzi.fpv
Awesome video, thanks for sharing, however, I'm not sure you had to loosen the motors. I'm not seeing how that helped, but anyway, I'll do it that way if I want to mount a bones. Thanks for the awesome instructions on this.
I second the gyroflow idea
What about running the insta go 3 ???
Honestly I think the avata built in camera looks better than insta go
Will this void the DJI care refresh?
I think I will modify the battery plug from the back side, tap into the red and black there.
Paul, do you know if its scientifically possible to change startup tune of avata? DJI FPV drone sounds like starwards mean thing that feels like its mean and has that grrr shivers down your spine sound but avata sounds like a little kitten that sneezed. I seriously don't know why they opted to have that "polite" startup sound. Do you think its possible to potentially change the sound?
Dang I just tried this and my GoPro isn’t powering on, and help?
I had the same thing just happen...by Avata battery would shut off when other wires were connected.
Super cool and comprehensive video, thank you!
This might be dumb question: what is the hardware you use? Ie the wiring you prefer etc for a newbie like me. With your help I could totally do this jsut need to know correct wiring to get
Have you tried to pull the gyro data off avata to double stabilize with gyroflow? Also was that Lawrence north?
No and yes.
Great video Nurk!!!
Cheers!!
I would love to see the Hero 11 mini on the avata. Don't need to solder :)
Q: Why would you need to shoot at 24/30 fps as opposed to 60? Isnt there some sort of 'downsampling' process where it takes only 24 of the 60 frames out there?
For motion blur I think
This is especially if people are in frame and if you’re cutting the footage into other pro footage which is mostl likely shot in 24fps (23.97)
This will be my setup 🔥
THANKS so much
Always love your videos. Silly question, how would gyroflow compare to reel steady and rock steady?
It's very similar to reelsteady
GyroFlow does a very good Job with GoPro10 shots (Its way better to record video with hypersmooth off and stabilize it with GyroFlow later)
@@NURKFPV yup, so why didn’t you use it for this comparison?!
You should fly the avata without the guards on for a video and see how it compares.
Awesome video Nurk! But why not just use Original Dobo's "Bad Idea" and strap your Bone that that? I think with that one, it doesn't block the GPS. I will definitely be doing the same thing with my Bone when I eventually get the Avata. I actually just picked up a DroneCo Slammed Squirt 4s and man, am I loving that thing. Love the tutorial as well, thank you for taking the time to put that out there.
I'm not sure I've seen it. DroneCo is amazing
Check your Instagram DM Nurk.
@@OriginaldoBo copy
@@OriginaldoBo @NURKFPV I love how small and helpful the FPV community is. Ken at OG DOBO and NURK were the few people that were so kind in my early days of learning FPV. They always answered all my annoying fpv questions about product or gear! Thanks guys. 7 drones later and in debt, well worth stepping in the hobby!
@@DucTaZenSurfer don’t put that evil on 😂😂😂
Any idea how to get the GoPro Bones in Canada? Seems to be US only...
I have limited Canadian experience.
And a go pro 11 mini ?
If you on to solder to battery line and do full service of drone, then just why avata and not normal cinewoop? Not sure, that this make any sense)
From legal perspective this is also killing any certification (C1/C2...) Because of drone modification.
What happens if you crash and the wires rip off and short?
An exciting afternoon.
But that's always a risk
@@NURKFPV yup, true. I just soldered it up. Man the cable routing was a real pain.
Hi Nurk...thanks for this.
With the possible exception of stabilizing software, I prefer the Avata. Obviously, it is not a Red camera.
I think the Avata manages the backlighting more realistically. Yes, it's dark. It should be. It's backlight.
By contrast, the GoPro appears to crank up the exposure with resultant noise too excessive to weed out.
To me, the Avata footage appears much sharper, which is not good, but if that matters to someone, we can blur it in post.
I'm also partial to DJI coloring being on the cool side of the Kelvin and GoPro on the warm side. That's just my taste.
Beginning at 15:40, which camera footage is being used? Don't know if it's a result of YT compression, but that is really bad. Watch the left side of the track. At least twice the track appears to split up. That can't be useable.
I would stick with the Avata footage. My two cents.
Thanks for putting this together.
The terrible thing about this video is that Nurk completely ignored the fact that the Avata has gyro data and can be stabilized with the FREE GyroFlow software in the same way he actually stabilized the GoPro footage with Reelsteady.
@@williebobsmith980 in one of the comments nurk said he was going to do that in a separate video. I agree it’s not a fair comparison. Having just received my avata whoop the other day I haven’t had a chance to mess with gyroflow. I’ve been too busy either flying it or watching videos on how to fly it better lol. I love the drone.
@@SkeezyFPV I just don’t understand why the default comparison wouldn’t automatically be either in-camera to in-camera or post-processed to post-processed instead of in-camera to post-processed. Makes no sense to me for someone to do that without an agenda.
Hey Nurk, would it have worked better if the GoPro was mounted further back, enough to keep the GPS unit exposed to the sky?
Nothing, but genius! Thanks for sharing!!!
Appreciate that, man
I was under the impression it was plug and play but to get these two to work its going to take a little diy
Bro, I'm high watching the video, then I started laughing at the "BOOM" out of nowhere in the cut for the outside senario, this shirt 🤣🤣
you do know that theres a company that makes a gopro mount that sits behind the sensor right?
I know what I show
Hey Nurk! I’m a huge fan!! Can you explain why you need 24fps for work? The blur makes it look faster and more cinematic? Why don’t you use 60fps?
It’s the soap opera effect. Ever walk into a bestbuy watching a movie demo on one of those huge displays and notice although it looks very colorful, everything moves as if it’s a behind the scenes footage. It’s as though it was taken from a video camera and not shot in film. High frame rates are super smooth but make action sequences feel somewhat fake (soap opera effect) you see every flaw and lose some of that realism or weight 24fps brings. It’s also an industry standard. I think he’d rather have a 48fps mode than 60. I would hope there is conversion software that could interpolate a better 60 to 24 transfer. Maybe DJI can update the firmware or at least fix the auto exposure settings.
Also wanted to add using 60fps+ is great and used for news, reality tv and sports shots and perfect for UA-cam. 24fps is more for filming.
@@tomoprime217 thanks!
good job paul!
Thanks for the video! Great info. And yes; yes we would like to know what screwdriver that is, and what bits you're using that don't fold over like tissue paper after removing 3 screws! 🙂
Wowstick
Me: I wonder if I can put a hero bones on an avata.
UA-cam: Nurk says you can.
Me: I would trust Nurk with my life. Mystery solved.
the camera was put out of center gravity of the drone - because of this that micro vibrations here in place
Nice tutorial 👍
Try gyroflow on the avata video. Gyroflow us much better then rocksteady.
Wilco
Just can't unsee the mushy shadows on the DJI camera
hey Nurk,
is it worth it over the Shendrones Squirt? lets say are you gonna retire the Shendrones?
Gotta love Reelsteady!
Yeah buddy
Nice creativity and informative video! I wouldn't be surprised if DJI isn't planning some updates for the camera and other accessories or even an updated drone (just put an "s" on the end. lol). This is why I don't buy new DJI drones when they first come out. Basically, the consumers are the beta testers.
Isn't that all consumer electronics these days?
Pretty much, although this is not nearly as much of a sh*tshow compared to the release of the Walksnail system
My avata flies glorious right out of the box with all the kit I have from the original fpv combo. I bought that and the avata drone at the same time. After a $150 Amazon discount I basically got the goggles v2, the fpv 2 controller instead of the motion controller, and the two quads for less than $1,500. I feel like I won the lottery lol. Great info nurk and I look forward to more of your avata content specifically!!
Impressively neat wiring for the camera. Really nice. But those micro stutters in GPS modes are quite an issue... I'm not sure it's because of the camera covering the GPS - could just be that the drone's control algorithms are struggling with the extra weight - would be curious to hear whether that stutter still happens if you mount the camera further back (i.e. on the battery). Those stutters make GPS modes essentially unusable, which is a bit of a deal killer to me, but of course, if you pretty much always fly in manual mode for filmmaking then I can see how this would work really well for you.
gps is very sensitive to interference and the antenna is directional towards the top (about 180°). fix could be as simple as shielding tape on the back of the gopro.
just speculation though.
@@drkastenbrot GoPro actually hangs slightly over the GPS from what I can tell. If any part of it is over the GPS then putting shielding tape over it will actually make things worse - since it will block the GPS signals too.
@@Vousie it may still help as long as the gps antenna has a clear line to most of the sky. there are satellites from all directions and if you can get rid of interference by blocking off one side that could still be good enough. best case would be keeping the area above and next to the antenna clear though.
What is that cool electric screwdriver you are using? Would you recommend it?
It's called a wowstick and yes I would
Any reason you didn’t try to mount the GoPro behind the gps on those rails of the frame? Add Velcro to the battery…
It was the only solution I could drum up without 3d printing
@@NURKFPV I guess you could quick test it with doublesided tape to the battery and replace with Velcro so that the mount is totally optional. Add Velcro to the other batteries. I am going to shut up now and watch the rest of your video. 👍🏻
Yuppppppp defo doing this 😅
was looking forward to this :)
my guy got the Fold lets goooo
Perfect timing! I was just wondering how to put together something like this
Do it! It's a workhorse now
@@NURKFPV Especially since Avata ND filters are out of stock worldwide 😅
Is there a company that you know does this? I'm not comfortable taking mine apart and would be happy to pay someone to do this!!
Not that im aware of but it's not nearly as scary as you think!
Why use this setup vs a much cheaper FPV cinewhoop?
for a new person to FPV ..... DJI Goggles 2 or V2 ?
Awesomeness Paul👊🏻👊🏻
Let's go!!
For most folks, 4k60 D-cinelike + gyroflow is plenty good enough. Not sure if strapping a GoPro is worth it.
Класс! Интересное видео.
Но всё же не понятно, зачем использовать Авата с гопро? Не проще ли использовать обычный синевуп с ГоПро?