The entirety of this arc is amazing. How Meruem went from a monster who kills for pleasure to human like person with emotions is just amazing. Every single character had a role to fulfill however small it may be. Just excellent beautiful writing.
I love when Welfin shouted to Meruem that he would only be loyal to Gyro. Welfin went from being overly selfish and constantly afraid for his life to basically taunting Meruem, who had just spared him and could still kill him at any point, simply to show his loyalty to Gyro.
This is lowkey one of my favorites episodes of the entire show. The dialogue, the writing, the interactions between the characers involved, everything was top tier.
I don't think I've ever seen confirmation, but I feel like the reason why the nuke was called "The Rose" and radiation was called "the poison" might be because nukes are, understandably, a sensitive topic in Japan. However, I do think it helps to make the fact the king and the two guards are fatally infected more unexpected and surprising. The nuke was a wonderful moment to me, as it said how something as "mundane" as a nuke, compared to all these hype shonen powers, was enough to take out the apex predator... and the radiation is just an extension of that message. Togashi fakes us out with the King's revival, but in truth, something even more mundane, even less hype, and yet actually more insidious and evil than a nuke - radiation sickness, arguably one of the most evil things humanity has created - is enough to take out even the powered up Meruem. Nen doesn't matter if your actual cells are falling apart.
I believe in yorknew city arc, the weapon nuke was mentioned so I think it exist, and I think instead of nuke, the Rose is possibly the most horrific weapon in their world. What really kills people from the nuke is the blast, the radiation is only the side effect from it, but the Rose however is designed to kill through two stages, one is the blast, second deadly contagious poison( which radiation doesn't do ) , Rose is a bio-weapon at its finest. I remember people were really upset the fact that a powerful being was killed by poison, and I'm just glad that it ended this way, it truly show that the worst side human kind could ever be. Not to mention, as a DBZ fan, I'm glade I don't need to witness how the power scale broken off.
I think this is what makes HxH special, this scene exactly protraits what love means, just one word and your world is changued for ever, and I think it's really hard to fully appreciate what we're watching right now, but I think it is extremely deep, from my 1º watch and I wasnt fully able to appreciate this, but at my 2º, I understand that I was watching something brilliant, this scene and the next ones at chapter 145 is the most beautiful media thing I've ever seen, no human creation could portrait the feeling of love in a better way, not cliche kisses, phrases and things like that, there are everywhere, but this, this is something.
The King, like any animal was born with strong instincts and factory presets. Already walking, speaking language, understanding math, logic and statecraft. Those on the latter are part of human knowledge but for certain CA those are mere instincts. Many animals in the animal kingdom devour or kill their own kin. Even mothers devouring their mate, or offprings, or the offprings killing their own siblings to secure more resources, when they're barely hatchlings. Those animals aren't monsters or evil. That's us humanizing them. Meruem only did what he was born into, what his genes mandated: dominate all life... and then deviated due to human ego. Meruem was a creature that while it was in the womb with his twin he rob his sibling of their nutrients because HE was the King. And I mean ego as a consciousness emergent thing. I think ego is part of consciousness- which is this emergent phenomenom us humans are really blessed or burdened with in high intensity due to evolution. In my own materialistic agnostic worldview I see this as a mere random, contigent accident. But that's my own opinion. Compared to other creatures (self consciousness - being aware that we are aware, that's next level shit), our conciousness is what generates this sense of self, indentity and where we rationalize emotions. Many CA had this capacity for speech, emote and question their own selves, while others didn't. Many CA that could use language couldn't question their own instincst like Cheetu. While others where constantly living in their own inner world like Welfin. Gyro is an example of someone with a strong sense of ego that inmediately left his enemy's territory and went ahead to keep continuing his past human goals. Those are different levels of consicousness and identity. And Meruem developed it very quickly considering he was born the last of the Ants. But he, like the RG, never had a chance to have a past memories, like retain a human indentity. I think they were brewed (i.e phagogenesis) in a very special way that only someone like the Queen will know. The show makes it clear that the RG and the King is a different species almost just as the Queen was from a different one. By the time Meruem was dead he had already surpassed others in terms of kindness and knowing themselves... like TRULY knowing themselves. That's why he said he felt like he felt divine, as in knowing how everything felt into place. That's Enlightment and it's clear thats the way we are supposed to see it given that Togashi put some Buddisht thematic elements in his series and even more so in this arc. It's a very interesting debate that always takes place when we arrive and these narrative peaks in this special arc.
Nah I'm pretty sure Meurum was born evil. Killed his mom, killed Peggy and killed random Turtle. The reason you can't say he wasn't born evil is because he has previous intellect from what was used to make him, which is why he can immediately talk, walk, and understand basic and complex things instead of being like a new born baby that knows nothing of the world.
He was born if instinct’s, and a intellect. But his instinct when he was born was, you are the king to rule the world. So he didn’t have any experience in living, any experience if nothing just a intellect and instinct. Even if he knew thing he didn’t experience anything he still didn’t fell any emotions
He was born to be the apex predator of the planet. Born with the instincts that everything is beneath him. He was able to talk and walk but wasn't capable of grasping emotions until he matured. We see him care for Komugi long before he gets rebirthed post bomb. He just needed the chance to develop human emotions. How can he do that surrounded by only others without them? He's born as a bug. Not evil
@@miyamotomusashi6450 because most of the ant's were incomplete and had been born with human emotions and memories. You must have human emotions to be evil. If the king can't grasp the idea of malice then he isn't evil by human definition. You can't unintentionally be evil. You having to knowingly have hatred, contempt and other negative human emotions. None of which the king had.
None of the other ants felt the need to murder their kin right out the birthing pod. The king wasn’t evil but he had absolutely no built in empathy. Not a sliver.
Pretty sure the reason animals at tchernoby were exterminated was not because of "'mutations" (mutations is not really a thing with radiation, more like you die/get sick and that's it :D), but they did not want those to move away from the area and bring with them contaminated material (dirt, dust etc ...)
Lindsay - He killed his mom, he was born evil. Carson - So???? This was just too funny for me, although I agreed 100 percent with the things he said afterwards.
i dont think meruem is a born evil he is just a monster or a devil that have instinct of an apex predator killing is normal to him they have no malice just like us when we eat meat its normal to us to see dead and cook meat
I like the parrallels lindsey made at the end with gon not emotionally evolving while the king does, you can make endless comparisons between them both.
Such a great reaction. Normally i like it when they're constantly tallkng about what they juzt saw. But there is something special when the episode has them in silent awe
thats like saying offprings froms cuckoos that kill the competition are evil. The King, as every other ant, was born with instincts. He had just an instinct to assert his superiority. Chimera Ants are not human. Until you add humans to the gene pool and suddenly ethics and morals are a thing (for some of them), but someone as the King and RG are born without human memories/indentity so they were born with some factory presets and morals didn't play a role in that programming.
@@blackopspro6455 in my opinion, they purposely showed meruem and most of the ants to be violent and evil at first, having set up that the ants consumed evil/corrupted people and showing the top ants already possesing dark and evil-looking aura from birth.. they killed and did violent deeds with no remorse even though they already possesed conscious minds and bypassing their ant/animal instinct.. if the centaur ant that kite killed can't be considered evil at all, then what is considered evil? idk anymore
@@miyamotomusashi6450 Sorry I was actually wrong here. Shark babies kill and eat each other in the womb is what I meant. Matriphagy (animals eating their mothers) is actually seen in insects and arachnids though
"The spy has done nothing this entire match... But suddenly, it controls the board!" -From Episode 103
I have heard somewhere that the games Meruem and Komugi plays literally spoils how the entire palace invasion and aftermath goes . CRAZY ...
that's amazing, i never made the link, must be the most subtile foreshadowing i've ever seen
Wow good catxh
The entirety of this arc is amazing. How Meruem went from a monster who kills for pleasure to human like person with emotions is just amazing. Every single character had a role to fulfill however small it may be. Just excellent beautiful writing.
and gon went from human to a monster
He never kill for pleasure. Only for survival like we do for food. We search for best quality of food right
@@firstman1091 Killed his mom, killed Peggy and killed random Turtle.
I love when Welfin shouted to Meruem that he would only be loyal to Gyro. Welfin went from being overly selfish and constantly afraid for his life to basically taunting Meruem, who had just spared him and could still kill him at any point, simply to show his loyalty to Gyro.
going from loosing all your hait to confront your biggest fear, dude has balls
dude is bald
This is lowkey one of my favorites episodes of the entire show. The dialogue, the writing, the interactions between the characers involved, everything was top tier.
Indeed, it's like watching a theater. It's just brilliant.
The internal conflict of the Ants was one hell of a factor to the victory of the hunters in this arc.
It was infact the Human DNA in the ants that caused the conflict ! :) Its a Master class writing.
I don't think I've ever seen confirmation, but I feel like the reason why the nuke was called "The Rose" and radiation was called "the poison" might be because nukes are, understandably, a sensitive topic in Japan.
However, I do think it helps to make the fact the king and the two guards are fatally infected more unexpected and surprising.
The nuke was a wonderful moment to me, as it said how something as "mundane" as a nuke, compared to all these hype shonen powers, was enough to take out the apex predator... and the radiation is just an extension of that message.
Togashi fakes us out with the King's revival, but in truth, something even more mundane, even less hype, and yet actually more insidious and evil than a nuke - radiation sickness, arguably one of the most evil things humanity has created - is enough to take out even the powered up Meruem. Nen doesn't matter if your actual cells are falling apart.
reminds me of original dragonball after nameck, goku became the strongest legendary fighter but is doomed to die of heart disease..
I believe in yorknew city arc, the weapon nuke was mentioned so I think it exist, and I think instead of nuke, the Rose is possibly the most horrific weapon in their world.
What really kills people from the nuke is the blast, the radiation is only the side effect from it, but the Rose however is designed to kill through two stages, one is the blast, second deadly contagious poison( which radiation doesn't do ) , Rose is a bio-weapon at its finest.
I remember people were really upset the fact that a powerful being was killed by poison, and I'm just glad that it ended this way, it truly show that the worst side human kind could ever be.
Not to mention, as a DBZ fan, I'm glade I don't need to witness how the power scale broken off.
I think this is what makes HxH special, this scene exactly protraits what love means, just one word and your world is changued for ever, and I think it's really hard to fully appreciate what we're watching right now, but I think it is extremely deep, from my 1º watch and I wasnt fully able to appreciate this, but at my 2º, I understand that I was watching something brilliant, this scene and the next ones at chapter 145 is the most beautiful media thing I've ever seen, no human creation could portrait the feeling of love in a better way, not cliche kisses, phrases and things like that, there are everywhere, but this, this is something.
One of my favorite scenes in the show. Both the beginning of the episode and the one in which Meruem remembers.
Through hate a human became a monster and through love a monster became human.
The King, like any animal was born with strong instincts and factory presets. Already walking, speaking language, understanding math, logic and statecraft. Those on the latter are part of human knowledge but for certain CA those are mere instincts.
Many animals in the animal kingdom devour or kill their own kin. Even mothers devouring their mate, or offprings, or the offprings killing their own siblings to secure more resources, when they're barely hatchlings. Those animals aren't monsters or evil. That's us humanizing them.
Meruem only did what he was born into, what his genes mandated: dominate all life... and then deviated due to human ego. Meruem was a creature that while it was in the womb with his twin he rob his sibling of their nutrients because HE was the King.
And I mean ego as a consciousness emergent thing. I think ego is part of consciousness- which is this emergent phenomenom us humans are really blessed or burdened with in high intensity due to evolution. In my own materialistic agnostic worldview I see this as a mere random, contigent accident. But that's my own opinion.
Compared to other creatures (self consciousness - being aware that we are aware, that's next level shit), our conciousness is what generates this sense of self, indentity and where we rationalize emotions. Many CA had this capacity for speech, emote and question their own selves, while others didn't. Many CA that could use language couldn't question their own instincst like Cheetu. While others where constantly living in their own inner world like Welfin. Gyro is an example of someone with a strong sense of ego that inmediately left his enemy's territory and went ahead to keep continuing his past human goals.
Those are different levels of consicousness and identity. And Meruem developed it very quickly considering he was born the last of the Ants. But he, like the RG, never had a chance to have a past memories, like retain a human indentity. I think they were brewed (i.e phagogenesis) in a very special way that only someone like the Queen will know. The show makes it clear that the RG and the King is a different species almost just as the Queen was from a different one.
By the time Meruem was dead he had already surpassed others in terms of kindness and knowing themselves... like TRULY knowing themselves. That's why he said he felt like he felt divine, as in knowing how everything felt into place. That's Enlightment and it's clear thats the way we are supposed to see it given that Togashi put some Buddisht thematic elements in his series and even more so in this arc.
It's a very interesting debate that always takes place when we arrive and these narrative peaks in this special arc.
This is my favourite episode. And Welfin and Pouf are my favourite characters.
WELFIN the real MVP of the entire castle invasion arc
komugi + welfin.
Komugi + Welfin + Netero + Morel
Infinity castle invasion arc
The next episode is the greatest ever
Welfin→Well Fin→ finish well It was decided that this character was a key person when he first appeared (when his name was known).
Meruem remembering Komugi, is so beautiful one of favourites parts of the whole anime
Welfin beat the King, making him canonically the strongest character in Hunter x Hunter.
Welfin, the one guy who insulted the king and lived to tell the tale.
Nah I'm pretty sure Meurum was born evil. Killed his mom, killed Peggy and killed random Turtle. The reason you can't say he wasn't born evil is because he has previous intellect from what was used to make him, which is why he can immediately talk, walk, and understand basic and complex things instead of being like a new born baby that knows nothing of the world.
He was born if instinct’s, and a intellect. But his instinct when he was born was, you are the king to rule the world. So he didn’t have any experience in living, any experience if nothing just a intellect and instinct. Even if he knew thing he didn’t experience anything he still didn’t fell any emotions
He was born to be the apex predator of the planet. Born with the instincts that everything is beneath him. He was able to talk and walk but wasn't capable of grasping emotions until he matured. We see him care for Komugi long before he gets rebirthed post bomb. He just needed the chance to develop human emotions. How can he do that surrounded by only others without them? He's born as a bug. Not evil
@@mentholnewport he was evil from a human perspective, even most of the ants thought he was evil.
He was born as a beast, animals have no morals, he then gained through experience the human quality of overcoming your instincts.
@@miyamotomusashi6450 because most of the ant's were incomplete and had been born with human emotions and memories. You must have human emotions to be evil. If the king can't grasp the idea of malice then he isn't evil by human definition. You can't unintentionally be evil. You having to knowingly have hatred, contempt and other negative human emotions. None of which the king had.
Gotta love welfin for representing bald people around the world.
He's representing bull dogs duh. Knov is representing bald people.
next episode is THE episode. I can't wait!
None of the other ants felt the need to murder their kin right out the birthing pod. The king wasn’t evil but he had absolutely no built in empathy. Not a sliver.
I love this wolfin scene. And as someone who loves pitbulls I just find him so cute without the hair lol
Wolf's Rain, is short, but its amazing!!!
One of the best episodes ever, imo. (coming from someone who much prefers psychological evolutions and conflicts, than action scenes)
Welfin the Chad🗿
16:05 its so funny because his voice actor also voices one of the main antagonists of My Hero Academia.
Pretty sure the reason animals at tchernoby were exterminated was not because of "'mutations" (mutations is not really a thing with radiation, more like you die/get sick and that's it :D), but they did not want those to move away from the area and bring with them contaminated material (dirt, dust etc ...)
This episode is so fcking GOOD!!!
THE episode is coming
Ah. Yes. I also love the last episode, but that episode is also coming
"do you know chernobyl?" damn i feel old
Welfin was pure comedy since his debut.
Grifiiiiiiiiiiith 😡
Me when I find the right keywords to find the reddit post that I finally needed to solve my problem.
time to start saving up a good amount of hydration for the next episode
Welfin stans stand up!
Here!
WELFIN tremendo gigachaaaaaaaaad
Man i would love to watch you guys reacting to Chernobyl
Agree. Such a masterpiece
Lindsay - He killed his mom, he was born evil.
Carson - So????
This was just too funny for me, although I agreed 100 percent with the things he said afterwards.
Hands down The best episode in Anime history.
Best episode❤
Welfin say he will kill the king. In fact when he say komugi he have do so , he have make the merciless meruem disappear
21:55 bars. I want to, I am cruel like that🤣
It's true tho
i dont think meruem is a born evil he is just a monster or a devil that have instinct of an apex predator killing is normal to him they have no malice just like us when we eat meat its normal to us to see dead and cook meat
7:09 Am I hearing this wrong or is there a little squirting sound here at the start of this little segment???
Gonna copyright strike the reflection on those glasses my guy
If hunter x hunter ever reached gyro arc someday. Won't welfin will become a villian again?
I like the parrallels lindsey made at the end with gon not emotionally evolving while the king does, you can make endless comparisons between them both.
Emotion episode
Such a great reaction.
Normally i like it when they're constantly tallkng about what they juzt saw. But there is something special when the episode has them in silent awe
We are worst then the ants
Chernobyl in hbo is a great mini series.
the king was born with a task to further the ant race and be the king of the world, he wasnt evil
take out the tissues guys
Youpie , pouf , meureum mati akibat terkena efek radiasi ledakan netero , semacam radiasi nuklir 🤔
kodoku demo hitori janai sa
One Piece 😂!
Re:Zero
Meruem was absolutely born evil, he killed his mother on purpose and killed anyone that tried to save her.
thats like saying offprings froms cuckoos that kill the competition are evil.
The King, as every other ant, was born with instincts. He had just an instinct to assert his superiority. Chimera Ants are not human. Until you add humans to the gene pool and suddenly ethics and morals are a thing (for some of them), but someone as the King and RG are born without human memories/indentity so they were born with some factory presets and morals didn't play a role in that programming.
I mean… sharks do the same thing that doesn’t make them evil.
@@blackopspro6455 in my opinion, they purposely showed meruem and most of the ants to be violent and evil at first, having set up that the ants consumed evil/corrupted people and showing the top ants already possesing dark and evil-looking aura from birth.. they killed and did violent deeds with no remorse even though they already possesed conscious minds and bypassing their ant/animal instinct.. if the centaur ant that kite killed can't be considered evil at all, then what is considered evil? idk anymore
@@blackopspro6455do sharks kill their own mother?
@@miyamotomusashi6450 Sorry I was actually wrong here. Shark babies kill and eat each other in the womb is what I meant. Matriphagy (animals eating their mothers) is actually seen in insects and arachnids though