Yokdemon She refers to the nuking of Theramore, the city that she established a while ago, and that was destroyed by a bomb from the hand of Garrosh and his Horde.
Garrosh a former orc warchief, mana bombed jaina's whole city killing everyone including her mentor figure Rhonin and her students, she only survived because Rhonin teleported her out of the explosion.
@@Pillowchewer in cata the horde leader garrosh attacked jainas city theramor but he hade a plan get jaina to ask for help from the alliance and when everybody was inside the city walls he dropped a mana bomb a world of warcraft nuke killing everyone she bearly escaped and sens then she has hated the horde with a passion not. Before this its a note that she was a peacekeeper being friends with many from the horde bane one of them the tauren in the vid
The saddest part was that, that was the plan. Sylvanas was going to cram him full of blight and send him to Jaina, to Kul Tiras. She is the worst aspects of Garosh and the Lich king combined.
@@emmahenderson3194 Yeah ... she IS the face of the forsaken and will always be. Her campaign in WC3 FT was one of the best. The name forsaken came from her and the flag shows HER banshee face.
2:06 Can we talk about the 'Daughter of the Sea' melody but with Tauren-themed instruments? It's subtle but there's something really deep and meaningful to that.
Baine looks so heartbroken throughout this whole thing. He looked willing to take whatever Jaina threw at him. I felt so bad for him while watching this.
Thats what I Love about this, you can see its tearing him up inside choosing between being loyal to the horde or being loyal to who he is and doing the right thing.
I felt like Derek saying "yes" was a very unwise choice of words. It could trigger Jaina to explode and become the bomb herself. Luckily, it confused her long enough for him to explain himself.
Didn't realize till I got to play through this quest a few days ago, but this cutscene actually takes place in the ruins of Theramore. Gives so much more weight to Jaina's words.
@@selkie8587 oh no that's so sad :( poor jaina but I think she should have fled and evacuated with her people. It's similar to frozen about the hair thing
@@VibrantDesigns Yep. Theramore got wiped out. In Warbringers Jaina' you can see what is left of Theramore. She blames herself not only for them dying but her father getting killed in Warcraft 3 All of Kul Tiras blamed her as well for a good while till we show up.
I love the mix between Tauren themed flutes and Daughter of the Sea, it is a very sweet and subtle way of showing sympathy to others even if they are supposed to be your enemy - it shows that even if Baine is a hulk of a Tauren, he is not a monster. Absolutely beautiful.
@José Rodrigo we now have a mobile game centered around the reconciliation of Derek and Jaina. Proudmoore Family........... Don't you guys have cellphones?
Baine is a traitor to both his people and his allies in the Horde. He represents self-serving corruption and betrayal, nothing more. He has no honor. He is NOT truly Horde. Cairne hangs his head in shame in the afterlife at what his son has become.
No. Sylvanus, like Garrosh before her, represents what the Horde was, is, and will always be: A faction of monsters, degenerates, and warlords whose lust for blood and domination over life will always outweigh any pathetic utterance of "honor" that spits from their genocidal tongues.
IDK maybe could be tentacles or perhaps it's THE BIG FCKING SWORD THAT'S STILL NAILED ON THE PLANET'S HEART (even if the sword is no longer "poisonous" the wound is not healed)
They won't hurt Baine, they already killed Vol'Jinn and took a whole expansion to find a suitable troll in Rokhan who'd always been there. If they get rid of Baine, I highly doubt they're gonna make Magatha or Malfurion's BFF the next representative
“Blizzard has a sickness in it. We wage war while Activision profits. We have forgotten what truly matters, and my wallet could bear it no longer.” Thank you indeed, Baine.
Yes but if you also look at other parts of his outfit, they dont have any decay either, and the knife is sheathed. It very well /could/ have damage, we just can't see it.
It seems to me there is some kind of decay all over his clothes including water damage, considering where his corpse was for a long time but the dagger has none of that. I dont trust him..
thats about all they can really deliver these days. they are like the banshee queen they adore so much, pretty on the outside but wretched and decaying on the inside.
@@Shiirow Honestly, i feel like thats Activisons fault, my old man and i came to the same conclusion the other night on the phone, activision have always been a pretty mediocre publisher and now theyre just drawing blizzard in on their forceful consumerism, not including WoW, blizzard have published and half-assed more stuff under AV than when they were their own label, granted, they had a habit of sitting on their laurels in the days before AV, but they produced far, far better content.
I think the same. Its there in the cinematic for a reason. My guess is that he's gonna kill Katherine. Yet another heart shattering betrayal incoming for Jaina
@@maximad5997 Light != good and you can't cleanse psychological torture by shoving a bunch of light into a guy. He might've already been turned, which maybe why he was in Tirigarde Sound instead of Zuldazar.
Baine brings out the best in everyone, and truly cares for the people around him. Even during War Crimes he felt tremendously guilty for having defend Garrosh.
I can see it going that way very likely, besides how else did sylvanas plan to get him to jaina? Oh you just walk up to stormwind and say "Hi jaina I'm alive accept me back into your life" it would be pretty suspicious. Maybe sylvanas wanted this to happen she may have even saw it coming and our good man Derek with his trusty blade on his back has the complete trust of the alliance leadership and once he cuts somebody Jaina will renew in her anger especially towards Baine.
I mean they made the camera angle focus on Derek's back with a weapon at 1:18 which kinda made it obvious where the story direction is going... not to mention Jaina was a raid boss in horde raid (she might die in this expansion like rastakhan) and Varmathras quote in legion was pretty much foreshadowing. "So, your Alliance still endures. Longer than I expected, though she has already planted the seeds of its downfall. She is patient, that one. When your thrones run red with betrayal... when your holy places burn and the shattered mask hangs above your hearth... only then you will know. And it will be too late. It matters not. You are blind to the true darkness closing in around you." it all buildup to this.
@Abdullah Bushlaibi Baine would never. He doesn't want this. He doesn't want the war or the bloodshed. He would be destroyed if he inadvertantly delivered a ticking bomb to Kul Tiras. It would kill him inside. Maybe that's what Sylvanas wants. Baine is the last outspoken good still left in the Horde. I hope he stays that way.
I think so, too. Why should Derek be on that ship and not longer in the chamber of Dazar'Alor if Sylvanas still did not break his will? He is a living bomb and he perhaps even doesn't know.
The nature of a walking barbeque might like this, but shouldn't we the forsaken then also be allowed to be true to our nature? Or is it just the pacifist BBQ that gets to?
There is NO WAY Sylvanas would allow a pawn like Derek to escape. He is corrupted and now Baine just delivered the pawn to the chess board. Guess who is gonna get blamed when Derek snaps and does Sylvanas's bidding? Ol' Baine is about to look reeeeeeaaaaaaalllllyyyy bad!
Mezmer5 yes, but if you chose Sylvanas instead Saurfang and tell her Blaine’s plan she asks us to do everything he says. Also Nathanos said that Derek would be held in Zuldazar until he gets infested, but Baine steals him already in Tiragarde Sound. And yes, there was no other way to get a suddenly resurrected brother to Jaina then by marking a betrayer in the Horde. So yes Sylvanas is angry that Baine betrayed her but I’m sure not that he sent Derek to the Alliance
@Bergr B Jaina will not be killed because she is an important character to this expansion, not because she is that smart mage. Personally i think Derek will assassinate Catherine who would like to see her ressurected son, because Catherine is not the main hero of this expansion and she is useless as Rastakhan. Rasta was needed to make Talanji queen, Catherine - to make Jaina lord-admiral. They both have done what they had to, now they can go
Derek might not be able to go to Catherine but who says Catherine will have the same cunning when hearing about Derek’s return? We might just see Catherine throw all rationality aside and rush to Derek’s side without anyone else knowing and thus the plot thickens.
I looked at that, and saw Jayna and undead-style ship I honestly thought there will be some skeletons, they dispatch them effordleasly to realise they are not hostile... And then the voice... Voice of a blonde boy-king, now grey and rugged, with deep wrinkles, and soulless eyes who tried to save his people... Only to forsaken his ownself : Arthas : ... Jayna?
this one kinda broke my heart, especially after you read the novels like the shattering . this feels like losing a true hero as you know sylvanis is going to kill him or torture him. the horde are left in a very messed up situation. . .do they stick to their warchief and follow their leader. . . .or break away and stick to their honor and heritage as "the horde" . . .now this is comming from an Ally main and all i can say is , even as an ally, you HAVE to respect saurfang and baine. . . the horde had MANY heroes that you just cant help but love and respect. . .baine being one. Hopefully things turn out in a brighter direction before its too late.
Why is it that in all the cinematics the boats are only crewed by like what looks like 2 or 3 people Does it not require quite a few people to operate a ship?
This is a world with magic, dragons and mailboxes that constantly break the laws of physics. Surely one can come up with a rationale for massive boats not to need large crews :) Even though we all know it's to keep the rendering times manageable lol
I want to say so much about "IS HE THE BOMB THIS TIME?" It was the perfect line. Delivered perfectly. It made me so sad with Jaina. Incredible cinematic.
gotta admit, when i saw this actually ingame, while questing, there was tears. blizz should make an actual movie in this style. just animation. who's in on that?
@@jayej3834 Well after Baine got arrested Mayla was pretty pissed about that. And I think Raxxa is also going to do something soon (cuz Zelling got killed by Nathanos)
0:56 * Battle for Azeroth is shown to Blizzard Devs by Activision * Blizzard: Our own game..!! Blizzard: I had thought better of you Activision! So tell me, is this a corporate puppet? Crammed full of money? IS IT THE 'FILLER EXPANSION' THIS TIME?!
ᚨᛚᚲᛟᚢᛖᚲᛋ But that's what the horde has always been. Then warcrime lady came in and ruined it all. Of course the honorable horde are gonna stay with honor.
Yeah sure, for waiting this long to actually do something. He could have put a stop to things waaay earlier, but he didn't. Something something horrible writing.
Faction draft 2019 Anduin: We the Alliance delegations pick Baine and the Tauren for the alliance Caster 1: What?! The Tauren ain't alliance, they are 100% horde! Sylvanas: "talks on phone" The Horde delegation accepts but on the condition they also accept Saurfang. Anduin: You got yourself a goddamn deal!
Sylvanas: The Horde Delegation wants Dark Iron Dwarves. Anduin: Now just a goddamn minute Sylvanas that wasn't part of the deal! Sylvanas: I'm a hustla, little lion.
@@AkaroXIV Anduin: Alright, well no hustling me banshee! I'm the ultimate hustler. I tell you what lets keep things fair. We keep the Dark Irons and you get the void elves. Sylvanas: Yeah! "does a little shuffle dance" "both shakes hand (with Sylvanas wiping her hand in disgust on her armor immediately after"
Which is weird, itn' it? Like that used to be most of the horde left over from Warcraft 3. And MOST of the horde from WoW were just outcasts who needed to band together...with the exception of the undead, who were EVIL outcasts who needed protection.
Thrall may no longer be Warchief but I have always upheld the ideals he had for the Horde. Vol'jin was no Orc but I respected him as Warchief because he proved himself time and again in keeping the Horde's honor intact despite everything he's gone through. I hope that one day the Horde will find itself on the right path again before Sylvanas irreversibly tears it apart. Saurfang may not want the mantle of Warchief but spirits know we need him now more than ever. "Honor, no matter how dire the battle. Never forsake it. ~ Varok Saurfang"
@@Husker_XIII Horde does not need Saurfang as warchief. This fool values his own honor before lives of his men. He does not have guts to do what's necessary.
After unlocking the Zandalari i can say they value honor a whole lot more than anything else, they fit well with the horde more than any other allied race and hopefully we can start to get a NEW horde, one that is more on its values of old of honor.
While I am an avid and 100% dedicated Alliance player who wouldn't roll Horde even when under the pain of death, I will always fully and wholeheartedly admire and respect the Tauren of Kalimdor. They are the heart of the otherwise savage Horde. And Baine is the physical embodiment of that heart. So. As an Alliance player: Baine for Warchief!
"We have forgot what truly matters, and my heart can bare it no longer" I know this game has gone far off the path of what we used to know, but it's still for some of us a game that we grew up playing and loving, I may not be on as often as I used to be but I will never stop playing this game until it's gone completely...
Look at it from this prospective Cataclysm gave more love to the Horde than it did the Alliance as did WoD Legion and BoA are just balancing the scales so Alliance players can feel a bit of love towards their faction.
@@1musamune I'm pretty sure the horde wasn't heroes in either of those expansions. Sure thrall was but not the horde.it was kinda a" but we're helping" sorta situation.
@@1musamune Balancing how much content each faction gets is obviously fine. My issue is how they wrote the story. They needed a reason to justify yet another profitable faction conflict expansion and that's hard to justify when we came so close together with the order halls. They chose to sacrifice everything the horde stood for since Warcraft 3 almost 2 decades ago.. The majority of the horde, including the player character, is now evil for encouraging and continuing to follow Sylvanas. All the racists like Daelin and Garithos have now been proven right and were justified in their hatred. It would have turned out so much better if they made the alliance strike first for once. They've always been too passive in lore, which is one of the main reasons people find the Alliance extremely boring.
jaina is so beautiful in this cinematic. so much emotions in her... and perhaps this will be my first tattoo: I am still your brother for as long as stars do shine
Baine, Vol'Jin and Saurfang are the last characters who still give me hope that the horde might find its way back to where it was in Classic, honorable people who just want to live in peace. Accepting Sylvanas into the horde was the biggest mistake Thrall ever made.
It's just sad that accepting the forsaken makes no sense, they just did it for the sake of creating WoW. Can't see why Thrall would accept them, giving how they are, unless he didn't know anything? And kicking them out is too much of an inconvenience for the players
@@Teato0o Thrall did accept the Forsaken for several reasons. He trusted the Judgment of the Earthen ring who were the first to acknowledge the Forsaken. He knew what it was like to be a slave and he could sympathize with the Forsaken once being slaves to the Scourge. The Horde needed more troops and Undercity provided a stronghold in the region of Eastern Kingdoms.
Well it’s not like the alliance welcomed the forsaken, in fact in the wc3 campaign they faced a lot of xenophobia. They knew that they needed to become part of a larger identity (aka the horde) if they were going to survive. The horde accepts them where the alliance never did. Keep in mind that most undead are nothing like sylvanas. She’s very jaded and struggles with bad PTSD. I feel like since she’s become the war chief she is once again she is put in the position of protector of her people. I feel the fear she has of failing her people again is pushing her to go to any lengths to make sure that she comes out on top this time. So I see her actions as in line with her personality it’s just sad to see how her trauma has turned her into this
The Alliance has been trying to wipe out the Tauren for years now, and now you expect all of them to come over and act like all of that never happened?
Deep. Maybe this is how Blizzard can reach the players in a symbolic way if we look at it like this: Baine = Blizzard. Jaina = players. Derek = BFA. Horde = WoW. Sylvanas = Activision. . Blizz : Players.. Long has it been since we spoke peacefully in Vanilla. Players : Vanilla is gone. You did not ask me here to reminisce. Blizz : No. I have come to return one who is lost. (BFA 8.1.5 walked in) . Blizz : WoW has a sickness in it. We waged war while the gameplay dies. We have forgotten what truly matters. And my heart can bear it no longer. Players : Activision will kill you for this. And she may not stop with you. Blizz : No game is worth playing if we cannot be true to our nature.
So-uh why is it that the important undead characters like Derek and Nathanos still look fine whereas the ones we have to play as look god awful? There was a story explaining why Nathanos didn't but this guy is freshly risen yet lacks protruding bones and those annoying fleshless joints that we have to use. It's almost as if they know they know they look terrible and don't want to use it for their characters but make us use it for our undead...
Dave L I assume it is because he was under the ocean, he may decay further, but seeing as he was under the ocean the process of decay is much slower, and we don’t actually know how deep he was so it isn’t like animals would have gone so deep as to eat his corpse.
Nathanos actually underwent a special ritual by order of Sylvanas to look the way he does. There's a short story going through the process on the main website.
what REALLY gets me is the fact they have bits and pieces of what I do believe is either mulgore or Thunder bluff/totem music sprinkled in here and there.
I don’t like the horde, but I have always liked and respected both Baine and Saurfang! One of them should be leading the horde, not that walking corpse. Sylvanas died the moment she was resurrected by Arthas.
anyone else continuing to see parallels between Baine and Anduin? theyve always had a connection yea but they way they both release members of the opposite faction for the greater good relating to sylvanas, and Baines line "We wage war while the Earth Mother dies" and Anduins "I used to think we were fighting for peace, but now we're just... fighting" there are good bois out there
Exactly, even trough I think its hitting here limitations of English language, Bane thinks about what he thinks in his mind vs decisions of Horde so his nature is his mind, on other hand Paarthurnax means by nature is his kinda inborn temptation and he is fighting it with his mind. At least that's what I take from it.
Jaina's old beliefs in hope for the Horde is coming back to slap her in the face. I always felt that while her pain and trauma is understandable and even reasonable, her throwing away her empathy was not. Giving that up meant she was like the very thing she hated in the Horde. Baine never did anything to deserve Jaina's anger but she didn't care simply because he was "not Alliance." Derek really threw everything she once believed back her by saying "Yes." How the Tides really have turned.
"She may not stop with you." Given recent events of the 8.2 campaign this line only has me even more worried. What might have been dismissed as merely Zelling has become some *very* concerning foreshadowing.
Honestly, Baine should have just run up to Jaina while she was getting angry and hugged her tightly, swatting that dangerous magic ball away! Then she'd remember their friendship!!
![Thrall Meets Jaina Cinematic: Sylvanas Executes Baine & Derek Proudmoore [WoW: BFADragonflight Lore]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/W2sODrN46ms/mqdefault.jpg)
![Thrall Meets Jaina Cinematic: Sylvanas Executes Baine & Derek Proudmoore [WoW: BFADragonflight Lore]](/img/tr.png)
![[Spoiler] The Return of Hope: Kul Tiras](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/MKJ7lVbv3VM/mqdefault.jpg)
Jaina: IS HE THE BOMB THIS TIME?!
My heart: ouch
that reminds me tides of war :c and kindy :C
I don't know anything about the lore, could you explaint it to me?
Yokdemon She refers to the nuking of Theramore, the city that she established a while ago, and that was destroyed by a bomb from the hand of Garrosh and his Horde.
Garrosh a former orc warchief, mana bombed jaina's whole city killing everyone including her mentor figure Rhonin and her students, she only survived because Rhonin teleported her out of the explosion.
@@Pillowchewer in cata the horde leader garrosh attacked jainas city theramor but he hade a plan get jaina to ask for help from the alliance and when everybody was inside the city walls he dropped a mana bomb a world of warcraft nuke killing everyone she bearly escaped and sens then she has hated the horde with a passion not. Before this its a note that she was a peacekeeper being friends with many from the horde bane one of them the tauren in the vid
Knowing Jaina’s history and how she lost theramore makes this scene and her line “is he the bomb this time!” SO emotional and heartbreaking.
She and greymane have the sadest lore
The saddest part was that, that was the plan. Sylvanas was going to cram him full of blight and send him to Jaina, to Kul Tiras. She is the worst aspects of Garosh and the Lich king combined.
Well her "bombs" have shrunk alot ;(
@@jackolantern147 they fr ruined her character so bad for no reason
@@emmahenderson3194 Yeah ... she IS the face of the forsaken and will always be. Her campaign in WC3 FT was one of the best.
The name forsaken came from her and the flag shows HER banshee face.
2:06 Can we talk about the 'Daughter of the Sea' melody but with Tauren-themed instruments? It's subtle but there's something really deep and meaningful to that.
My gosh i got chills when i heard it!!
Yeeesssss, the music is always amazing in these cinematics.
Peace through empathy.
I didn't notice that, that's an amazing detail.
I thought Taliesen's analysis was cool too
Laura's delivery of "Is he the bomb this time" is so painfully good. Every now and then, a game hits it just right.
She kills it in any role she plays
And right before that "So tell me" something about that line feels like she's holding back tears
Remember when Baine was just this little guy we had to rescue in the Frozen Throne?
Yeah
Time flies
He's grown so much..........
Remember when all Jaina wanted to do was study
Baine looks so heartbroken throughout this whole thing. He looked willing to take whatever Jaina threw at him. I felt so bad for him while watching this.
Exactly. Cow Dad for the win.
Thats what I Love about this, you can see its tearing him up inside choosing between being loyal to the horde or being loyal to who he is and doing the right thing.
bannatimes And this is what makes him such a great leader.
The Horde are seen as monsters but they are really just struggling to find a home for themselves and to protect the Earthmother.
The Gaming Paladin they only ones who believe in the “Earth Mother” are the Tauren.
It feels like the quality of this cinematic in their acting was better than the previous ones.
So raw and genuine 😄
Jaina is kawaii.
Better than legion "I AM MY OWN SCARS"
@@thinhvo3893 "I am my scars!"
@@thinhvo3893 No.
@@andreware2039 Yes. Much better.
_We wage war, while the Earth Mother dies_ - I like that.
I also like: _No life is worth living if we cannot be true to ourselves_
you just gotta love these awesome quotes !!
Baine for President... i mean warchief
Indeed. The quotes written for Baine were executed perfectly!
No life is worth living if we cant be true to our nature.
You just saw the cinematic and still got the quote wrong dude, wtf?
"true to our nature" get it right. it's very important. it's the statement that WE HAVE A NATURE. most would like to think otherwise.
"No life is worth living if we cannot be true to our nature"
Words to live by
And the Horde's nature is genocide...
Automatic Pump Action literally right as I read this comment the clip played by
@@Alastor7783 Yeah. The Horde of idiots is really that... The Horde is not
@@Alastor7783 But Tauren aren't aggressive, they're a bunch of peaceful cows who were almost wiped out by the centaur
@@Alastor7783 "Attempted genocide."
To my knowledge, the Horde has yet to actually destroy a entire race.
Jaina: *IS HE THE BOMB THIS TIME?*
Darek: "Yes."
Jaina: Dafuq?
It was a very emotional cinematic tho
I felt like Derek saying "yes" was a very unwise choice of words. It could trigger Jaina to explode and become the bomb herself. Luckily, it confused her long enough for him to explain himself.
@@ShadowTheHedgehogCZ Well, it was coming from Derek. That was enough to shock her.
Didn't realize till I got to play through this quest a few days ago, but this cutscene actually takes place in the ruins of Theramore. Gives so much more weight to Jaina's words.
No life is worth living, if we cannot be true to our nature
-Baine 2019
Time to bring out the steak knives!
20!9*
Its almost as if Blizzard pre activision is speaking from behind the mind control.
@@biasednexus7429 with the recent update about classic? ye looks like they're trying to make a hard comeback
Oh wow now im a warchief and it looks like im dying next.
-Baine 2020
I just came here to take my daily dose of "IS HE THE BOMB THIS TIME!!?"
Daily goosebumps
Laura Bailey is everywhere but I have to admit, she is one of the best voice actresses I love to hear. She delivers this line so well.
I don’t even know why. I just want to hear it once in a while
I hope you get cancer. Filthy Baine lover.
She sure is whiny
"IS HE THE BOMB THIS TIME!" the best line in BFA! She was about too shoot her enrager timer all over baine
I'd love her to do that on me ,😋 lol
Giggity
Can u guys explain this quote?
@@selkie8587 oh no that's so sad :( poor jaina but I think she should have fled and evacuated with her people. It's similar to frozen about the hair thing
@@VibrantDesigns Yep. Theramore got wiped out.
In Warbringers Jaina' you can see what is left of Theramore. She blames herself not only for them dying but her father getting killed in Warcraft 3
All of Kul Tiras blamed her as well for a good while till we show up.
I love the mix between Tauren themed flutes and Daughter of the Sea, it is a very sweet and subtle way of showing sympathy to others even if they are supposed to be your enemy - it shows that even if Baine is a hulk of a Tauren, he is not a monster. Absolutely beautiful.
A month later:
Sylvannas: "Fools. Did you honestly believe I wouldn't have a B plan? Derek, execute order 66!"
Jaina: You was my brother! I loved you!
Take my upvote
@@L-S Derek: I HATE YOUUUU
@@Stormskie
Jaina: Nooooooooooooo
this is like the best crossover between movies and games :D :D
Jaina: IS HE THE BOMB THIS TIME?
Derek: Yes
Jaina: Wait what? lol xD
@José Rodrigo we now have a mobile game centered around the reconciliation of Derek and Jaina. Proudmoore Family........... Don't you guys have cellphones?
excuse me but what the F...
@@Sevendusk dead meme
The full statement was “Yes...... that was the plan, but Bane took me from Sylvanas before.... before I was twisted to her will.” Context!!!!!
She was just shocked that he can talk, not by his answer
Bane is a good boi.
Blizz, please do not kill him. My heart could not bare it. I haven't even recovered from Cairne's death yet...
Baine was a good steak tho. - Garrosh
I hope Silvy burns all the traitors
He dies in vain
@@mackparker9064 lol
I was gutted when Cairne died. He was the equivalent of a kind and wise Grandfather. :'(
Congratulations Terran Gregory and the rest of the cinematics team, AS ALWAYS!
I read that as Terran Greyjoy, Derek has a semblance to Greyjoy, and the fact they're related to the sea. Kul-Tirans, and Iron-Islanders.
Marginally better than Zerg Gregory and Protoss Gregory.
Alvin Cardinal 7
Only good thing about this expansion
"is he THE BOMB THIS TIME?!"
Chills down my spine every time.
Easily manipulated by cheese huh?
@@OhNoTheFace what?
@@linuskentr Her continued whining assuming BAINE of all people would do that
@@OhNoTheFace sorry I don't take drugs
@@linuskentr Ah no real argument besides being a tool. Got it
High respect for Baine, he represents what the Horde truly is.
Stay strong Baine, For the Horde. *salute*
Deathbringer spoiler alert he dies
Baine is a traitor to both his people and his allies in the Horde. He represents self-serving corruption and betrayal, nothing more. He has no honor. He is NOT truly Horde. Cairne hangs his head in shame in the afterlife at what his son has become.
@@Ultimaton100 Terrific...such a great pun to put in the first line
@@Ultimaton100 This comment is the sickness in the horde, thank you for illustrating it.
No. Sylvanus, like Garrosh before her, represents what the Horde was, is, and will always be: A faction of monsters, degenerates, and warlords whose lust for blood and domination over life will always outweigh any pathetic utterance of "honor" that spits from their genocidal tongues.
The earth-mother is dying but I think it's the tentacles spouting from the sea Baine. You might wanna look into that...
IDK maybe could be tentacles or perhaps it's THE BIG FCKING SWORD THAT'S STILL NAILED ON THE PLANET'S HEART (even if the sword is no longer "poisonous" the wound is not healed)
@@Wizz5 what sword? Oh Silithus? Never heard of it. I dont think people go there.
what tentacles? did i miss something
@@DrKlinkist old god is coming.
@@DrKlinkist No. This expansion is all about the faction war.
Please don't hurt Baine... :(
They won't hurt Baine, they already killed Vol'Jinn and took a whole expansion to find a suitable troll in Rokhan who'd always been there. If they get rid of Baine, I highly doubt they're gonna make Magatha or Malfurion's BFF the next representative
I wonder what's gonna happen now tho, his acts won't go unnoticed and I doubt Sylvanas is gonna sit back and do nothing...
Acid Trip Pretty sure she knew all along and Darek is already mindwashed. Sylvanas isn‘t that stupid.
They better not hurt my big steak. All world's will burn if they do
Michael Oswald Chilling at the Maelstorm
“Blizzard has a sickness in it. We wage war while Activision profits. We have forgotten what truly matters, and my wallet could bear it no longer.”
Thank you indeed, Baine.
stfu
@@trynafindRocky What's that supposed to mean!?
there was a better one but i like urs to. the bwonsamdi one someone did with activision was best
@@trynafindRocky go back to ur safe space and lick ur wounds
That joke literally sucks.
Jaina's voiceacting is absolutely perfect, you can feel the years of pain she's been through in her "is he the bomb this time?" line.
“As long as stars do shine”
Its from the song jaina used to sing with her father
Is he the bomb this time?
Oh GOD, MY HEART
I love drugs and so does Baine
I absolutely adore Jaina's voice. Just perfect.
Look up Critical Role if you don't know about it and watch that for more of her ;)
@@eGaminginAustria or dbz!
@@STRATOVARIUSPB or swtor or about 9000 other anime games and shows...Laura Bailey may be the best voice actor of all time
SPINNING BIRD KICK! xD
Laura is a goddess among voice actors.
I hope they will watch him closely.... that knife has no decay on it, almost as if it was given to him after he was raised!
I can feel your energy just by reading
Hmmmmmmmm interesting
Chekhov's gun
Yes but if you also look at other parts of his outfit, they dont have any decay either, and the knife is sheathed. It very well /could/ have damage, we just can't see it.
It seems to me there is some kind of decay all over his clothes including water damage, considering where his corpse was for a long time but the dagger has none of that. I dont trust him..
I love her booming voice when she just yells "Is HE the bomb this time?!"
Baine for Warchief!
Doronsmovies Oh, hey Doron. Fancy seeing you here.
Make the Horde Great again!
"Sylvanas will kill you for that"
YES! if he becomes warcheif him and anduin can create peace
Doron has spoken! Baine for Warchief!!
One thing WoW will always deliver, good cinematics
thats about all they can really deliver these days. they are like the banshee queen they adore so much, pretty on the outside but wretched and decaying on the inside.
@@Shiirow Actually they still deliver great music and art.
Blizzard have always had good cinematics, right from the getgo.
Its cinematics like these that make me want te resub, but then i remember nearly everything else : /
@@Shiirow
Honestly, i feel like thats Activisons fault, my old man and i came to the same conclusion the other night on the phone, activision have always been a pretty mediocre publisher and now theyre just drawing blizzard in on their forceful consumerism, not including WoW, blizzard have published and half-assed more stuff under AV than when they were their own label, granted, they had a habit of sitting on their laurels in the days before AV, but they produced far, far better content.
Im calling BS, they put that dagger on Derek's back for us to stare at.
I think the same. Its there in the cinematic for a reason. My guess is that he's gonna kill Katherine. Yet another heart shattering betrayal incoming for Jaina
This, but is Jaina so vapid to not still expect a trap of some sort and use it against them, if it indeed is?
Sylvanas does come off as someone who would anticipate this...
You know she takes him to that netherlight temple where Calia Menethil is at, a Lightforge undead
@@maximad5997
Light != good and you can't cleanse psychological torture by shoving a bunch of light into a guy.
He might've already been turned, which maybe why he was in Tirigarde Sound instead of Zuldazar.
Calling it now. Derek already got Widowmakered and is gonna get Katherine.
That's what I'm thinking as well.
Would Baine know that?
George Lakoum he couldn’t know that
@@wereberius9201 Doubt it, I believe that would be a secondary plan if the primary fails for "some reason"
same, after all nathanos told us to help baine in whatever he wanted
Baine
He defen
He atac
But most important
He bring Derek bac !!!
and Sylvanas be anticipating dis behind his bac
@@099Nitro
genuine chuckle achieved.
Baine brings out the best in everyone, and truly cares for the people around him. Even during War Crimes he felt tremendously guilty for having defend Garrosh.
In before Derek is still a sleeper agent.
nooooo
I can see it going that way very likely, besides how else did sylvanas plan to get him to jaina? Oh you just walk up to stormwind and say "Hi jaina I'm alive accept me back into your life" it would be pretty suspicious. Maybe sylvanas wanted this to happen she may have even saw it coming and our good man Derek with his trusty blade on his back has the complete trust of the alliance leadership and once he cuts somebody Jaina will renew in her anger especially towards Baine.
the ork leaders agree with your assessment
@@jorgeporras9262 the s at the end of your post stands for SALT
I mean they made the camera angle focus on Derek's back with a weapon at 1:18 which kinda made it obvious where the story direction is going...
not to mention Jaina was a raid boss in horde raid (she might die in this expansion like rastakhan) and Varmathras quote in legion was pretty much foreshadowing.
"So, your Alliance still endures. Longer than I expected, though she has already planted the seeds of its downfall. She is patient, that one.
When your thrones run red with betrayal... when your holy places burn and the shattered mask hangs above your hearth... only then you will know. And it will be too late.
It matters not. You are blind to the true darkness closing in around you."
it all buildup to this.
baine will always be my favorite character lol his quotes are just amazing
IT'S A TRAP! Slyvannas knows that Baine was going to do this.
@Abdullah Bushlaibi Baine would never. He doesn't want this. He doesn't want the war or the bloodshed. He would be destroyed if he inadvertantly delivered a ticking bomb to Kul Tiras. It would kill him inside. Maybe that's what Sylvanas wants.
Baine is the last outspoken good still left in the Horde. I hope he stays that way.
@@maniakb416 No he wouldn't, but I wouldn't put it past Sylvanas that she planned for it.
Well, it wouldn't be the first time Baina is fooled
, remember Theramore.
I think so, too. Why should Derek be on that ship and not longer in the chamber of Dazar'Alor if Sylvanas still did not break his will?
He is a living bomb and he perhaps even doesn't know.
I hope so. Traitor Baine btw.
BFA had issues, but the leveling storyline was top notch.
Even though I don't play the game, Jania is one of my favorite characters. Has to be the wonderful voice actor that makes her character so loveable
Baron Geddon
YOU ARE THE BOMB!
or your pet is....boom goodbye auction house
My boy Baine can't go down after this! NOT NOW!
He deserves it
F.. traitor
Man I loved this. Such a nice addition that didnt really need to be made.
Notice me senpai.
"No life is worth living if we cannot be true to our nature..." That is quite... profound
"What is better - to be born good, or to overcome your evil nature through great effort?" - Paarthurnax
"We wage war while the Earth Mother dies.. We have forgotten what truly matters and my heart can bear it no longer." Baine is too good for the Horde.
"No life is worth living if we cannot be true to our nature!"
The nature of a walking barbeque might like this, but shouldn't we the forsaken then also be allowed to be true to our nature? Or is it just the pacifist BBQ that gets to?
There is NO WAY Sylvanas would allow a pawn like Derek to escape. He is corrupted and now Baine just delivered the pawn to the chess board. Guess who is gonna get blamed when Derek snaps and does Sylvanas's bidding? Ol' Baine is about to look reeeeeeaaaaaaalllllyyyy bad!
Sylvanas look very angry when Derek leave for freedomland
Mezmer5 yes, but if you chose Sylvanas instead Saurfang and tell her Blaine’s plan she asks us to do everything he says. Also Nathanos said that Derek would be held in Zuldazar until he gets infested, but Baine steals him already in Tiragarde Sound. And yes, there was no other way to get a suddenly resurrected brother to Jaina then by marking a betrayer in the Horde. So yes Sylvanas is angry that Baine betrayed her but I’m sure not that he sent Derek to the Alliance
@Bergr B because she found traitors. Every leader will be upset if he knows that some of his servants is not loyal to him
@Bergr B Jaina will not be killed because she is an important character to this expansion, not because she is that smart mage. Personally i think Derek will assassinate Catherine who would like to see her ressurected son, because Catherine is not the main hero of this expansion and she is useless as Rastakhan. Rasta was needed to make Talanji queen, Catherine - to make Jaina lord-admiral. They both have done what they had to, now they can go
Derek might not be able to go to Catherine but who says Catherine will have the same cunning when hearing about Derek’s return? We might just see Catherine throw all rationality aside and rush to Derek’s side without anyone else knowing and thus the plot thickens.
*An Unexpected Reunion*
I thought for a second the true warchief was returning!
Green jesus? No thank you
Anyone who knows Metzen's whereabouts and reasons will know this will never happen. Not for maybe another 10+ years at least.
I looked at that, and saw Jayna and undead-style ship
I honestly thought there will be some skeletons, they dispatch them effordleasly to realise they are not hostile... And then the voice... Voice of a blonde boy-king, now grey and rugged, with deep wrinkles, and soulless eyes who tried to save his people... Only to forsaken his ownself :
Arthas : ... Jayna?
@Corpsehorser
Pre cata Thrall was badass AF
Garrosh? Lol nobody likes green Jesus
this one kinda broke my heart, especially after you read the novels like the shattering . this feels like losing a true hero as you know sylvanis is going to kill him or torture him. the horde are left in a very messed up situation. . .do they stick to their warchief and follow their leader. . . .or break away and stick to their honor and heritage as "the horde" . . .now this is comming from an Ally main and all i can say is , even as an ally, you HAVE to respect saurfang and baine. . . the horde had MANY heroes that you just cant help but love and respect. . .baine being one. Hopefully things turn out in a brighter direction before its too late.
- ZRGames agreed. Baine dropping that Native American wisdom was just........beautiful. You’ve done good Baine, you’ve done good.
The storytelling in WoW was always good but in BFA it's next level. The cinematics have gotten so much better than in the first few expansions.
Why is it that in all the cinematics the boats are only crewed by like what looks like 2 or 3 people
Does it not require quite a few people to operate a ship?
They hide from the cameras (?
This is a world with magic, dragons and mailboxes that constantly break the laws of physics. Surely one can come up with a rationale for massive boats not to need large crews :)
Even though we all know it's to keep the rendering times manageable lol
jainia can fly and fire the goddamn cannons at the same time, doubt a crew can do that!
Or as we have seen. Just jaina. Managing a ship as well as making magic canons and such
Well for the horde ship, Zelling was using the tidesage powers/prayers to move it :3
Aww shucks I was hoping it was Captain Place-Holder. LOL
_Captain P. you'll never know the emptiness inside_
_as we sit ashore on Menethil, waitin' for a ride..._
Captain place-holder for warcheif
LOL
That look Jaina and her brother gave each other in the end. The kind of love only family can hold for each other.
I want to say so much about "IS HE THE BOMB THIS TIME?" It was the perfect line. Delivered perfectly. It made me so sad with Jaina. Incredible cinematic.
gotta admit, when i saw this actually ingame, while questing, there was tears. blizz should make an actual movie in this style. just animation. who's in on that?
Great job Blizz, there can be said many things about this expansion, but some of the cinematics are one of the best you've done :)
Wait so did Baine retreat to Thunder Bluff? O.
Siege of Thunder Bluff coming Autumn 2019 😏
In the 8.1.5 Horde War Campaign, Sylvanas imprisons Baine for returning Derek to Jaina.
Genegerbread Ah, I’m on EU so I haven’t been able to play yet!
I'm ready for Warlords of Lordaeron.
You gotta wonder what the other tauren leaders will think about that. Like Hamuul being Baines advisor, the sunwalkers, Ebonhorn and Mayla.
@@jayej3834 Well after Baine got arrested Mayla was pretty pissed about that. And I think Raxxa is also going to do something soon (cuz Zelling got killed by Nathanos)
0:56
* Battle for Azeroth is shown to Blizzard Devs by Activision *
Blizzard: Our own game..!!
Blizzard: I had thought better of you Activision!
So tell me, is this a corporate puppet? Crammed full of money?
IS IT THE 'FILLER EXPANSION' THIS TIME?!
Are you comparing Baine to Activision?
Brilliant pun!
@@Regunes Unlikely ... Gallywix wasn't in the cinematic. ;)
It’s the little things like the hand fluidic movements that make these cinematic all the more lively.
Earth mother is the world soul of Azeroth confirmed
This was actually really touching.
Do hope that Horde players can opt to keep Baine safe from Sylvanas' thugs.
Bullshit. I will sell out Baine to Sylvanas myself
Snitch
People flocking to Baine because of *mY hOnOR*.
Death to the alliance loving traitors!
ᚨᛚᚲᛟᚢᛖᚲᛋ But that's what the horde has always been.
Then warcrime lady came in and ruined it all.
Of course the honorable horde are gonna stay with honor.
She foresaw this, she is thinning the heard ;)
Bane would make his father proud.
My feels T_T LONG LIVE THE BLOODHOOFS!
Yeah, Cairne will be soon able to say this personally.
Yeah sure, for waiting this long to actually do something. He could have put a stop to things waaay earlier, but he didn't. Something something horrible writing.
*Baine
@@markmikolay9019
Meh
"IS HE THE BOMB THIS TIME?!?!" Oh. I'm not gonna cry!
Why?
Jaina: IS HE THE BOMB NOW?
ME: No Jaina, you are DA BOMB
YASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
I approve this comment! 🖒
Loved the moment when she was about to go "Boom!"
She was the bomb? (Jackie Chan from Rush Hour)
This is beautiful. The rendition of Daughter of the Sea with the panpipes as Baine speaks is gorgeous! Fantastic work cinematics team!
Faction draft 2019
Anduin: We the Alliance delegations pick Baine and the Tauren for the alliance
Caster 1: What?! The Tauren ain't alliance, they are 100% horde!
Sylvanas: "talks on phone" The Horde delegation accepts but on the condition they also accept Saurfang.
Anduin: You got yourself a goddamn deal!
Sylvanas: The Horde Delegation wants Dark Iron Dwarves.
Anduin: Now just a goddamn minute Sylvanas that wasn't part of the deal!
Sylvanas: I'm a hustla, little lion.
Except Baine and Saurfang are more Horde than Sylvanas and her Forsaken will ever be...
@@AkaroXIV
Anduin: Alright, well no hustling me banshee! I'm the ultimate hustler. I tell you what lets keep things fair. We keep the Dark Irons and you get the void elves.
Sylvanas: Yeah! "does a little shuffle dance"
"both shakes hand (with Sylvanas wiping her hand in disgust on her armor immediately after"
@@ironghost-ug2si
woooooooosh
They miss the chance to say "Theramore is no more" 0:38
Some times Theraless is Theramore.
@@Jognt Came here just to like that pun
Baine. Like father like son
I wish baine would be the Warchief!, he would be perfect for it. And i hope this is not a trap like most people are saying.
Now that's my High Chieftain!! #TaurenPride
This must become a New thing #TaurenPride
#CowPride FTFY
#taurenpride for life
We trolls, wished we could do the same brudda
Jamail -van Westering ya but no one can take a troll seriously
Huh, another honorable horde, they are few these days.
Which is weird, itn' it? Like that used to be most of the horde left over from Warcraft 3. And MOST of the horde from WoW were just outcasts who needed to band together...with the exception of the undead, who were EVIL outcasts who needed protection.
Thrall may no longer be Warchief but I have always upheld the ideals he had for the Horde. Vol'jin was no Orc but I respected him as Warchief because he proved himself time and again in keeping the Horde's honor intact despite everything he's gone through. I hope that one day the Horde will find itself on the right path again before Sylvanas irreversibly tears it apart. Saurfang may not want the mantle of Warchief but spirits know we need him now more than ever. "Honor, no matter how dire the battle. Never forsake it. ~ Varok Saurfang"
@@Husker_XIII Horde does not need Saurfang as warchief. This fool values his own honor before lives of his men. He does not have guts to do what's necessary.
After unlocking the Zandalari i can say they value honor a whole lot more than anything else, they fit well with the horde more than any other allied race and hopefully we can start to get a NEW horde, one that is more on its values of old of honor.
I absolutely love Baine, thank you Jamieson Price for making such a great character feel so real.
While I am an avid and 100% dedicated Alliance player who wouldn't roll Horde even when under the pain of death, I will always fully and wholeheartedly admire and respect the Tauren of Kalimdor.
They are the heart of the otherwise savage Horde. And Baine is the physical embodiment of that heart.
So. As an Alliance player: Baine for Warchief!
"We have forgot what truly matters, and my heart can bare it no longer" I know this game has gone far off the path of what we used to know, but it's still for some of us a game that we grew up playing and loving, I may not be on as often as I used to be but I will never stop playing this game until it's gone completely...
It's because we feel genuine loyalty to characters in it. Alliance characters practically RAISED Anduin.
Oh, Taurens were always my favorite. If Sylvanas just even touch Baine, I swear I`m going to erase her from game files!
I'm gonna help preparing the block for Baine to get chopped. Traitor had it coming.
099Nitro you just stupid or really stupid? Pick one though!
@@099Nitro That will happen, but to that rotten emo zombie chick.
Really enjoying Jaina's story this expansion. It's just too bad the price of alliance story had to be the ruining of the entire horde faction.
I'm fine with the horse being made to look like the devils
Look at it from this prospective Cataclysm gave more love to the Horde than it did the Alliance as did WoD Legion and BoA are just balancing the scales so Alliance players can feel a bit of love towards their faction.
@@1musamune I'm pretty sure the horde wasn't heroes in either of those expansions. Sure thrall was but not the horde.it was kinda a" but we're helping" sorta situation.
1musamune wow has always been alliance biased.
@@1musamune Balancing how much content each faction gets is obviously fine. My issue is how they wrote the story. They needed a reason to justify yet another profitable faction conflict expansion and that's hard to justify when we came so close together with the order halls. They chose to sacrifice everything the horde stood for since Warcraft 3 almost 2 decades ago.. The majority of the horde, including the player character, is now evil for encouraging and continuing to follow Sylvanas. All the racists like Daelin and Garithos have now been proven right and were justified in their hatred. It would have turned out so much better if they made the alliance strike first for once. They've always been too passive in lore, which is one of the main reasons people find the Alliance extremely boring.
jaina is so beautiful in this cinematic. so much emotions in her... and perhaps this will be my first tattoo: I am still your brother for as long as stars do shine
Friendship with Sylvanas ENDED
Baine and Varok are my best friends now
Baine, Vol'Jin and Saurfang are the last characters who still give me hope that the horde might find its way back to where it was in Classic, honorable people who just want to live in peace.
Accepting Sylvanas into the horde was the biggest mistake Thrall ever made.
Vol'who? Isn't that a ded troll?
@@mackparker9064 Hes the hordes new Loa!
It's just sad that accepting the forsaken makes no sense, they just did it for the sake of creating WoW. Can't see why Thrall would accept them, giving how they are, unless he didn't know anything? And kicking them out is too much of an inconvenience for the players
@@Teato0o Thrall did accept the Forsaken for several reasons. He trusted the Judgment of the Earthen ring who were the first to acknowledge the Forsaken. He knew what it was like to be a slave and he could sympathize with the Forsaken once being slaves to the Scourge. The Horde needed more troops and Undercity provided a stronghold in the region of Eastern Kingdoms.
Well it’s not like the alliance welcomed the forsaken, in fact in the wc3 campaign they faced a lot of xenophobia. They knew that they needed to become part of a larger identity (aka the horde) if they were going to survive. The horde accepts them where the alliance never did. Keep in mind that most undead are nothing like sylvanas. She’s very jaded and struggles with bad PTSD. I feel like since she’s become the war chief she is once again she is put in the position of protector of her people. I feel the fear she has of failing her people again is pushing her to go to any lengths to make sure that she comes out on top this time. So I see her actions as in line with her personality it’s just sad to see how her trauma has turned her into this
"The Shattering: Prelude to Cataclysm" nostalgia hits hard. Lore and arts team are doing an amazing job! :)
There u have a warchief that will never be one. Cause with a guy like baine in charge, there will be no wow. Respect Baine, For the Alliance
The Tauren do not belong in the Horde. Anduin would welcome them.
WRATH2501 We live in harmony with nature so the Night elves would be cool with it right?
@@Dogmaguy74 Just about everyone in the Alliance would be cool with it.
The Alliance has been trying to wipe out the Tauren for years now, and now you expect all of them to come over and act like all of that never happened?
Dear God guys... the spoiler is for the CUTSCENE itself...
the game may be a shadow of what it used to be, but the artists behind the cinematics are still at it with their hearts
They are better than ever.
I'm still your brother Jaina, as long as stars do shine...😢 😭
Deep. Maybe this is how Blizzard can reach the players in a symbolic way if we look at it like this:
Baine = Blizzard.
Jaina = players.
Derek = BFA.
Horde = WoW.
Sylvanas = Activision.
.
Blizz : Players.. Long has it been since we spoke peacefully in Vanilla.
Players : Vanilla is gone. You did not ask me here to reminisce.
Blizz : No. I have come to return one who is lost.
(BFA 8.1.5 walked in)
.
Blizz : WoW has a sickness in it. We waged war while the gameplay dies. We have forgotten what truly matters. And my heart can bear it no longer.
Players : Activision will kill you for this. And she may not stop with you.
Blizz : No game is worth playing if we cannot be true to our nature.
Holy Bleeping Cake.
The art team/story/voice/music/cinematics is the only thing that keeps me hooked through BfA. The goosebumpiness in this is cosmic
So-uh why is it that the important undead characters like Derek and Nathanos still look fine whereas the ones we have to play as look god awful? There was a story explaining why Nathanos didn't but this guy is freshly risen yet lacks protruding bones and those annoying fleshless joints that we have to use.
It's almost as if they know they know they look terrible and don't want to use it for their characters but make us use it for our undead...
Dave L I assume it is because he was under the ocean, he may decay further, but seeing as he was under the ocean the process of decay is much slower, and we don’t actually know how deep he was so it isn’t like animals would have gone so deep as to eat his corpse.
Nathanos actually underwent a special ritual by order of Sylvanas to look the way he does. There's a short story going through the process on the main website.
@@FlorentiusIV I did mention that
what REALLY gets me is the fact they have bits and pieces of what I do believe is either mulgore or Thunder bluff/totem music sprinkled in here and there.
Just take me now, Jaina...my body is ready...
Blizzard Cinematics.... So good. They need to make a serie out of this!!!!
Actually a good cinematic, good job blizz
I don’t like the horde, but I have always liked and respected both Baine and Saurfang! One of them should be leading the horde, not that walking corpse. Sylvanas died the moment she was resurrected by Arthas.
Baine and Saurfang are the Horde. Sylvanas is just an usurper living on borrowed time...
ironghost1982. So true. And her time is coming...
anyone else continuing to see parallels between Baine and Anduin? theyve always had a connection yea but they way they both release members of the opposite faction for the greater good relating to sylvanas, and Baines line "We wage war while the Earth Mother dies" and Anduins "I used to think we were fighting for peace, but now we're just... fighting" there are good bois out there
0:55 OMG! The sound player to Jaina terrified me and excited me, I loved him so much
“No life is worth living if we cannot be true to our nature.” Paarthurnax would disagree
Exactly, even trough I think its hitting here limitations of English language, Bane thinks about what he thinks in his mind vs decisions of Horde so his nature is his mind, on other hand Paarthurnax means by nature is his kinda inborn temptation and he is fighting it with his mind.
At least that's what I take from it.
Jaina's old beliefs in hope for the Horde is coming back to slap her in the face. I always felt that while her pain and trauma is understandable and even reasonable, her throwing away her empathy was not. Giving that up meant she was like the very thing she hated in the Horde. Baine never did anything to deserve Jaina's anger but she didn't care simply because he was "not Alliance." Derek really threw everything she once believed back her by saying "Yes." How the Tides really have turned.
"She may not stop with you."
Given recent events of the 8.2 campaign this line only has me even more worried. What might have been dismissed as merely Zelling has become some *very* concerning foreshadowing.
Their cinematics look so amazing these days... they just keep getting better and better
Honestly, Baine should have just run up to Jaina while she was getting angry and hugged her tightly, swatting that dangerous magic ball away! Then she'd remember their friendship!!