The saddest part was that, that was the plan. Sylvanas was going to cram him full of blight and send him to Jaina, to Kul Tiras. She is the worst aspects of Garosh and the Lich king combined.
@@emmahenderson3194 Yeah ... she IS the face of the forsaken and will always be. Her campaign in WC3 FT was one of the best. The name forsaken came from her and the flag shows HER banshee face.
Yokdemon She refers to the nuking of Theramore, the city that she established a while ago, and that was destroyed by a bomb from the hand of Garrosh and his Horde.
Garrosh a former orc warchief, mana bombed jaina's whole city killing everyone including her mentor figure Rhonin and her students, she only survived because Rhonin teleported her out of the explosion.
@@Pillowchewer in cata the horde leader garrosh attacked jainas city theramor but he hade a plan get jaina to ask for help from the alliance and when everybody was inside the city walls he dropped a mana bomb a world of warcraft nuke killing everyone she bearly escaped and sens then she has hated the horde with a passion not. Before this its a note that she was a peacekeeper being friends with many from the horde bane one of them the tauren in the vid
2:06 Can we talk about the 'Daughter of the Sea' melody but with Tauren-themed instruments? It's subtle but there's something really deep and meaningful to that.
Baine looks so heartbroken throughout this whole thing. He looked willing to take whatever Jaina threw at him. I felt so bad for him while watching this.
Thats what I Love about this, you can see its tearing him up inside choosing between being loyal to the horde or being loyal to who he is and doing the right thing.
Nathaniel So deep... Especially when you realize that he is talking about his people, implying that he is potentially willing to sacrifice his entire race for Alliance.
I felt like Derek saying "yes" was a very unwise choice of words. It could trigger Jaina to explode and become the bomb herself. Luckily, it confused her long enough for him to explain himself.
Didn't realize till I got to play through this quest a few days ago, but this cutscene actually takes place in the ruins of Theramore. Gives so much more weight to Jaina's words.
I love the mix between Tauren themed flutes and Daughter of the Sea, it is a very sweet and subtle way of showing sympathy to others even if they are supposed to be your enemy - it shows that even if Baine is a hulk of a Tauren, he is not a monster. Absolutely beautiful.
@@selkie8587 oh no that's so sad :( poor jaina but I think she should have fled and evacuated with her people. It's similar to frozen about the hair thing
@@VibrantDesigns Yep. Theramore got wiped out. In Warbringers Jaina' you can see what is left of Theramore. She blames herself not only for them dying but her father getting killed in Warcraft 3 All of Kul Tiras blamed her as well for a good while till we show up.
@José Rodrigo we now have a mobile game centered around the reconciliation of Derek and Jaina. Proudmoore Family........... Don't you guys have cellphones?
IDK maybe could be tentacles or perhaps it's THE BIG FCKING SWORD THAT'S STILL NAILED ON THE PLANET'S HEART (even if the sword is no longer "poisonous" the wound is not healed)
They won't hurt Baine, they already killed Vol'Jinn and took a whole expansion to find a suitable troll in Rokhan who'd always been there. If they get rid of Baine, I highly doubt they're gonna make Magatha or Malfurion's BFF the next representative
Baine is a traitor to both his people and his allies in the Horde. He represents self-serving corruption and betrayal, nothing more. He has no honor. He is NOT truly Horde. Cairne hangs his head in shame in the afterlife at what his son has become.
No. Sylvanus, like Garrosh before her, represents what the Horde was, is, and will always be: A faction of monsters, degenerates, and warlords whose lust for blood and domination over life will always outweigh any pathetic utterance of "honor" that spits from their genocidal tongues.
“Blizzard has a sickness in it. We wage war while Activision profits. We have forgotten what truly matters, and my wallet could bear it no longer.” Thank you indeed, Baine.
Yes but if you also look at other parts of his outfit, they dont have any decay either, and the knife is sheathed. It very well /could/ have damage, we just can't see it.
It seems to me there is some kind of decay all over his clothes including water damage, considering where his corpse was for a long time but the dagger has none of that. I dont trust him..
Lor’themar makes it clear to Horde players after Baine is arrested that he has no intention of betraying Sylvanas or the Horde. He knows the Alliance will destroy his people if they get the chance.
thats about all they can really deliver these days. they are like the banshee queen they adore so much, pretty on the outside but wretched and decaying on the inside.
@@Shiirow Honestly, i feel like thats Activisons fault, my old man and i came to the same conclusion the other night on the phone, activision have always been a pretty mediocre publisher and now theyre just drawing blizzard in on their forceful consumerism, not including WoW, blizzard have published and half-assed more stuff under AV than when they were their own label, granted, they had a habit of sitting on their laurels in the days before AV, but they produced far, far better content.
I think the same. Its there in the cinematic for a reason. My guess is that he's gonna kill Katherine. Yet another heart shattering betrayal incoming for Jaina
@@maximad5997 Light != good and you can't cleanse psychological torture by shoving a bunch of light into a guy. He might've already been turned, which maybe why he was in Tirigarde Sound instead of Zuldazar.
Baine brings out the best in everyone, and truly cares for the people around him. Even during War Crimes he felt tremendously guilty for having defend Garrosh.
@@abdullabushlaibi3371 Baine would never. He doesn't want this. He doesn't want the war or the bloodshed. He would be destroyed if he inadvertantly delivered a ticking bomb to Kul Tiras. It would kill him inside. Maybe that's what Sylvanas wants. Baine is the last outspoken good still left in the Horde. I hope he stays that way.
I think so, too. Why should Derek be on that ship and not longer in the chamber of Dazar'Alor if Sylvanas still did not break his will? He is a living bomb and he perhaps even doesn't know.
I can see it going that way very likely, besides how else did sylvanas plan to get him to jaina? Oh you just walk up to stormwind and say "Hi jaina I'm alive accept me back into your life" it would be pretty suspicious. Maybe sylvanas wanted this to happen she may have even saw it coming and our good man Derek with his trusty blade on his back has the complete trust of the alliance leadership and once he cuts somebody Jaina will renew in her anger especially towards Baine.
I mean they made the camera angle focus on Derek's back with a weapon at 1:18 which kinda made it obvious where the story direction is going... not to mention Jaina was a raid boss in horde raid (she might die in this expansion like rastakhan) and Varmathras quote in legion was pretty much foreshadowing. "So, your Alliance still endures. Longer than I expected, though she has already planted the seeds of its downfall. She is patient, that one. When your thrones run red with betrayal... when your holy places burn and the shattered mask hangs above your hearth... only then you will know. And it will be too late. It matters not. You are blind to the true darkness closing in around you." it all buildup to this.
I looked at that, and saw Jayna and undead-style ship I honestly thought there will be some skeletons, they dispatch them effordleasly to realise they are not hostile... And then the voice... Voice of a blonde boy-king, now grey and rugged, with deep wrinkles, and soulless eyes who tried to save his people... Only to forsaken his ownself : Arthas : ... Jayna?
Yeah sure, for waiting this long to actually do something. He could have put a stop to things waaay earlier, but he didn't. Something something horrible writing.
Why is it that in all the cinematics the boats are only crewed by like what looks like 2 or 3 people Does it not require quite a few people to operate a ship?
This is a world with magic, dragons and mailboxes that constantly break the laws of physics. Surely one can come up with a rationale for massive boats not to need large crews :) Even though we all know it's to keep the rendering times manageable lol
this one kinda broke my heart, especially after you read the novels like the shattering . this feels like losing a true hero as you know sylvanis is going to kill him or torture him. the horde are left in a very messed up situation. . .do they stick to their warchief and follow their leader. . . .or break away and stick to their honor and heritage as "the horde" . . .now this is comming from an Ally main and all i can say is , even as an ally, you HAVE to respect saurfang and baine. . . the horde had MANY heroes that you just cant help but love and respect. . .baine being one. Hopefully things turn out in a brighter direction before its too late.
@@jayej3834 Well after Baine got arrested Mayla was pretty pissed about that. And I think Raxxa is also going to do something soon (cuz Zelling got killed by Nathanos)
The nature of a walking barbeque might like this, but shouldn't we the forsaken then also be allowed to be true to our nature? Or is it just the pacifist BBQ that gets to?
There is NO WAY Sylvanas would allow a pawn like Derek to escape. He is corrupted and now Baine just delivered the pawn to the chess board. Guess who is gonna get blamed when Derek snaps and does Sylvanas's bidding? Ol' Baine is about to look reeeeeeaaaaaaalllllyyyy bad!
Mezmer5 yes, but if you chose Sylvanas instead Saurfang and tell her Blaine’s plan she asks us to do everything he says. Also Nathanos said that Derek would be held in Zuldazar until he gets infested, but Baine steals him already in Tiragarde Sound. And yes, there was no other way to get a suddenly resurrected brother to Jaina then by marking a betrayer in the Horde. So yes Sylvanas is angry that Baine betrayed her but I’m sure not that he sent Derek to the Alliance
@Bergr B Jaina will not be killed because she is an important character to this expansion, not because she is that smart mage. Personally i think Derek will assassinate Catherine who would like to see her ressurected son, because Catherine is not the main hero of this expansion and she is useless as Rastakhan. Rasta was needed to make Talanji queen, Catherine - to make Jaina lord-admiral. They both have done what they had to, now they can go
Derek might not be able to go to Catherine but who says Catherine will have the same cunning when hearing about Derek’s return? We might just see Catherine throw all rationality aside and rush to Derek’s side without anyone else knowing and thus the plot thickens.
gotta admit, when i saw this actually ingame, while questing, there was tears. blizz should make an actual movie in this style. just animation. who's in on that?
I want to say so much about "IS HE THE BOMB THIS TIME?" It was the perfect line. Delivered perfectly. It made me so sad with Jaina. Incredible cinematic.
While I am an avid and 100% dedicated Alliance player who wouldn't roll Horde even when under the pain of death, I will always fully and wholeheartedly admire and respect the Tauren of Kalimdor. They are the heart of the otherwise savage Horde. And Baine is the physical embodiment of that heart. So. As an Alliance player: Baine for Warchief!
what REALLY gets me is the fact they have bits and pieces of what I do believe is either mulgore or Thunder bluff/totem music sprinkled in here and there.
The Alliance has been trying to wipe out the Tauren for years now, and now you expect all of them to come over and act like all of that never happened?
"We have forgot what truly matters, and my heart can bare it no longer" I know this game has gone far off the path of what we used to know, but it's still for some of us a game that we grew up playing and loving, I may not be on as often as I used to be but I will never stop playing this game until it's gone completely...
jaina is so beautiful in this cinematic. so much emotions in her... and perhaps this will be my first tattoo: I am still your brother for as long as stars do shine
Each time I watch warcraft related videos, I get goosbumps, and when the get emotional, I do as well :C This lore is the only one I love so much out of all the fictional Universes
He knows sylvanas tried to twist him, it was the whole point of him being raised then tortured in the great seal. Also even if he didn't know, baine would have told him
Exactly, even trough I think its hitting here limitations of English language, Bane thinks about what he thinks in his mind vs decisions of Horde so his nature is his mind, on other hand Paarthurnax means by nature is his kinda inborn temptation and he is fighting it with his mind. At least that's what I take from it.
![Thrall Meets Jaina Cinematic: Sylvanas Executes Baine & Derek Proudmoore [WoW: BFADragonflight Lore]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/W2sODrN46ms/mqdefault.jpg)
![Thrall Meets Jaina Cinematic: Sylvanas Executes Baine & Derek Proudmoore [WoW: BFADragonflight Lore]](/img/tr.png)
![Sylvanas Eternal Punishment: All Cutscenes in ORDER - Arthas Death Epilogue [WoW Dragonflight Lore]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/a1E7H1WrTug/mqdefault.jpg)
![[Spoiler] The Return of Hope: Kul Tiras](/img/n.gif)
Knowing Jaina’s history and how she lost theramore makes this scene and her line “is he the bomb this time!” SO emotional and heartbreaking.
She and greymane have the sadest lore
The saddest part was that, that was the plan. Sylvanas was going to cram him full of blight and send him to Jaina, to Kul Tiras. She is the worst aspects of Garosh and the Lich king combined.
Well her "bombs" have shrunk alot ;(
@@jackolantern147 they fr ruined her character so bad for no reason
@@emmahenderson3194 Yeah ... she IS the face of the forsaken and will always be. Her campaign in WC3 FT was one of the best.
The name forsaken came from her and the flag shows HER banshee face.
Jaina: IS HE THE BOMB THIS TIME?!
My heart: ouch
that reminds me tides of war :c and kindy :C
I don't know anything about the lore, could you explaint it to me?
Yokdemon She refers to the nuking of Theramore, the city that she established a while ago, and that was destroyed by a bomb from the hand of Garrosh and his Horde.
Garrosh a former orc warchief, mana bombed jaina's whole city killing everyone including her mentor figure Rhonin and her students, she only survived because Rhonin teleported her out of the explosion.
@@Pillowchewer in cata the horde leader garrosh attacked jainas city theramor but he hade a plan get jaina to ask for help from the alliance and when everybody was inside the city walls he dropped a mana bomb a world of warcraft nuke killing everyone she bearly escaped and sens then she has hated the horde with a passion not. Before this its a note that she was a peacekeeper being friends with many from the horde bane one of them the tauren in the vid
Laura's delivery of "Is he the bomb this time" is so painfully good. Every now and then, a game hits it just right.
She kills it in any role she plays
And right before that "So tell me" something about that line feels like she's holding back tears
2:06 Can we talk about the 'Daughter of the Sea' melody but with Tauren-themed instruments? It's subtle but there's something really deep and meaningful to that.
My gosh i got chills when i heard it!!
Yeeesssss, the music is always amazing in these cinematics.
Peace through empathy.
I didn't notice that, that's an amazing detail.
I thought Taliesen's analysis was cool too
Baine looks so heartbroken throughout this whole thing. He looked willing to take whatever Jaina threw at him. I felt so bad for him while watching this.
Exactly. Cow Dad for the win.
Thats what I Love about this, you can see its tearing him up inside choosing between being loyal to the horde or being loyal to who he is and doing the right thing.
bannatimes And this is what makes him such a great leader.
The Horde are seen as monsters but they are really just struggling to find a home for themselves and to protect the Earthmother.
The Gaming Paladin they only ones who believe in the “Earth Mother” are the Tauren.
Remember when Baine was just this little guy we had to rescue in the Frozen Throne?
Yeah
Time flies
He's grown so much..........
Remember when all Jaina wanted to do was study
I just came here to take my daily dose of "IS HE THE BOMB THIS TIME!!?"
Daily goosebumps
Laura Bailey is everywhere but I have to admit, she is one of the best voice actresses I love to hear. She delivers this line so well.
I don’t even know why. I just want to hear it once in a while
I hope you get cancer. Filthy Baine lover.
She sure is whiny
"No life is worth living if we cannot be true to our nature"
Words to live by
And the Horde's nature is genocide...
Automatic Pump Action literally right as I read this comment the clip played by
@@Alastor7783 Yeah. The Horde of idiots is really that... The Horde is not
@@Alastor7783 But Tauren aren't aggressive, they're a bunch of peaceful cows who were almost wiped out by the centaur
@@Alastor7783 "Attempted genocide."
To my knowledge, the Horde has yet to actually destroy a entire race.
“No life is worth living if we cannot be true to our nature.” That’s pretty deep Baine.
Nathaniel, he speaks wisdom
Nathaniel deep if you’re a first year psychology student lmao
a psychopath would like to hold that wisdom
Nathaniel So deep... Especially when you realize that he is talking about his people, implying that he is potentially willing to sacrifice his entire race for Alliance.
Not so deep to Sylvanas fanboys, I presume.
It feels like the quality of this cinematic in their acting was better than the previous ones.
So raw and genuine 😄
Jaina is kawaii.
Better than legion "I AM MY OWN SCARS"
@@thinhvo3893 "I am my scars!"
@@thinhvo3893 No.
@@andreware2039 Yes. Much better.
Jaina: *IS HE THE BOMB THIS TIME?*
Darek: "Yes."
Jaina: Dafuq?
It was a very emotional cinematic tho
I felt like Derek saying "yes" was a very unwise choice of words. It could trigger Jaina to explode and become the bomb herself. Luckily, it confused her long enough for him to explain himself.
@@ShadowTheHedgehogCZ Well, it was coming from Derek. That was enough to shock her.
Didn't realize till I got to play through this quest a few days ago, but this cutscene actually takes place in the ruins of Theramore. Gives so much more weight to Jaina's words.
I love the mix between Tauren themed flutes and Daughter of the Sea, it is a very sweet and subtle way of showing sympathy to others even if they are supposed to be your enemy - it shows that even if Baine is a hulk of a Tauren, he is not a monster. Absolutely beautiful.
_We wage war, while the Earth Mother dies_ - I like that.
I also like: _No life is worth living if we cannot be true to ourselves_
you just gotta love these awesome quotes !!
Baine for President... i mean warchief
Indeed. The quotes written for Baine were executed perfectly!
No life is worth living if we cant be true to our nature.
You just saw the cinematic and still got the quote wrong dude, wtf?
"true to our nature" get it right. it's very important. it's the statement that WE HAVE A NATURE. most would like to think otherwise.
No life is worth living, if we cannot be true to our nature
-Baine 2019
Time to bring out the steak knives!
20!9*
Its almost as if Blizzard pre activision is speaking from behind the mind control.
@@biasednexus7429 with the recent update about classic? ye looks like they're trying to make a hard comeback
Oh wow now im a warchief and it looks like im dying next.
-Baine 2020
A month later:
Sylvannas: "Fools. Did you honestly believe I wouldn't have a B plan? Derek, execute order 66!"
Jaina: You was my brother! I loved you!
Take my upvote
@@L-S Derek: I HATE YOUUUU
@@Stormskie
Jaina: Nooooooooooooo
this is like the best crossover between movies and games :D :D
"is he THE BOMB THIS TIME?!"
Chills down my spine every time.
Easily manipulated by cheese huh?
@@OhNoTheFace what?
@@linuskentrevtorp Her continued whining assuming BAINE of all people would do that
@@OhNoTheFace sorry I don't take drugs
@@linuskentrevtorp Ah no real argument besides being a tool. Got it
"IS HE THE BOMB THIS TIME!" the best line in BFA! She was about too shoot her enrager timer all over baine
I'd love her to do that on me ,😋 lol
Giggity
Can u guys explain this quote?
@@selkie8587 oh no that's so sad :( poor jaina but I think she should have fled and evacuated with her people. It's similar to frozen about the hair thing
@@VibrantDesigns Yep. Theramore got wiped out.
In Warbringers Jaina' you can see what is left of Theramore. She blames herself not only for them dying but her father getting killed in Warcraft 3
All of Kul Tiras blamed her as well for a good while till we show up.
Jaina: IS HE THE BOMB THIS TIME?
Derek: Yes
Jaina: Wait what? lol xD
@José Rodrigo we now have a mobile game centered around the reconciliation of Derek and Jaina. Proudmoore Family........... Don't you guys have cellphones?
excuse me but what the F...
@@Sevendusk dead meme
The full statement was “Yes...... that was the plan, but Bane took me from Sylvanas before.... before I was twisted to her will.” Context!!!!!
She was just shocked that he can talk, not by his answer
Bane is a good boi.
Blizz, please do not kill him. My heart could not bare it. I haven't even recovered from Cairne's death yet...
Baine was a good steak tho. - Garrosh
I hope Silvy burns all the traitors
He dies in vain
@@mackparker9064 lol
I was gutted when Cairne died. He was the equivalent of a kind and wise Grandfather. :'(
Jaina's voiceacting is absolutely perfect, you can feel the years of pain she's been through in her "is he the bomb this time?" line.
The earth-mother is dying but I think it's the tentacles spouting from the sea Baine. You might wanna look into that...
IDK maybe could be tentacles or perhaps it's THE BIG FCKING SWORD THAT'S STILL NAILED ON THE PLANET'S HEART (even if the sword is no longer "poisonous" the wound is not healed)
@@Wizz5 what sword? Oh Silithus? Never heard of it. I dont think people go there.
what tentacles? did i miss something
@@DrKlinkist old god is coming.
@@DrKlinkist No. This expansion is all about the faction war.
Please don't hurt Baine... :(
They won't hurt Baine, they already killed Vol'Jinn and took a whole expansion to find a suitable troll in Rokhan who'd always been there. If they get rid of Baine, I highly doubt they're gonna make Magatha or Malfurion's BFF the next representative
I wonder what's gonna happen now tho, his acts won't go unnoticed and I doubt Sylvanas is gonna sit back and do nothing...
Acid Trip Pretty sure she knew all along and Darek is already mindwashed. Sylvanas isn‘t that stupid.
They better not hurt my big steak. All world's will burn if they do
Michael Oswald Chilling at the Maelstorm
“As long as stars do shine”
Its from the song jaina used to sing with her father
I love her booming voice when she just yells "Is HE the bomb this time?!"
Congratulations Terran Gregory and the rest of the cinematics team, AS ALWAYS!
I read that as Terran Greyjoy, Derek has a semblance to Greyjoy, and the fact they're related to the sea. Kul-Tirans, and Iron-Islanders.
Marginally better than Zerg Gregory and Protoss Gregory.
Alvin Cardinal 7
Only good thing about this expansion
I absolutely adore Jaina's voice. Just perfect.
Look up Critical Role if you don't know about it and watch that for more of her ;)
@@eGaminginAustria or dbz!
@@STRATOVARIUSPB or swtor or about 9000 other anime games and shows...Laura Bailey may be the best voice actor of all time
SPINNING BIRD KICK! xD
Laura is a goddess among voice actors.
High respect for Baine, he represents what the Horde truly is.
Stay strong Baine, For the Horde. *salute*
Deathbringer spoiler alert he dies
Baine is a traitor to both his people and his allies in the Horde. He represents self-serving corruption and betrayal, nothing more. He has no honor. He is NOT truly Horde. Cairne hangs his head in shame in the afterlife at what his son has become.
@@Ultimaton100 Terrific...such a great pun to put in the first line
@@Ultimaton100 This comment is the sickness in the horde, thank you for illustrating it.
No. Sylvanus, like Garrosh before her, represents what the Horde was, is, and will always be: A faction of monsters, degenerates, and warlords whose lust for blood and domination over life will always outweigh any pathetic utterance of "honor" that spits from their genocidal tongues.
“Blizzard has a sickness in it. We wage war while Activision profits. We have forgotten what truly matters, and my wallet could bear it no longer.”
Thank you indeed, Baine.
stfu
@@rockypupper What's that supposed to mean!?
there was a better one but i like urs to. the bwonsamdi one someone did with activision was best
@@rockypupper go back to ur safe space and lick ur wounds
That joke literally sucks.
Is he the bomb this time?
Oh GOD, MY HEART
I love drugs and so does Baine
I hope they will watch him closely.... that knife has no decay on it, almost as if it was given to him after he was raised!
I can feel your energy just by reading
Hmmmmmmmm interesting
Chekhov's gun
Yes but if you also look at other parts of his outfit, they dont have any decay either, and the knife is sheathed. It very well /could/ have damage, we just can't see it.
It seems to me there is some kind of decay all over his clothes including water damage, considering where his corpse was for a long time but the dagger has none of that. I dont trust him..
First Saurfang, now Baine. Lor'themar your up buddy.
Lor'themar: "yeah I heard that some of our people are now in the alliance so imma just go side with them real quick, cya sylvanas!"
You're*, idiot.
D P stfu no one cares
Lor’themar makes it clear to Horde players after Baine is arrested that he has no intention of betraying Sylvanas or the Horde. He knows the Alliance will destroy his people if they get the chance.
@@graveljesus Lol shut up. He wouldn't.
Baine for Warchief!
Doronsmovies Oh, hey Doron. Fancy seeing you here.
Make the Horde Great again!
"Sylvanas will kill you for that"
YES! if he becomes warcheif him and anduin can create peace
Doron has spoken! Baine for Warchief!!
Baron Geddon
YOU ARE THE BOMB!
or your pet is....boom goodbye auction house
baine will always be my favorite character lol his quotes are just amazing
That look Jaina and her brother gave each other in the end. The kind of love only family can hold for each other.
Baine
He defen
He atac
But most important
He bring Derek bac !!!
and Sylvanas be anticipating dis behind his bac
@@099Nitro
genuine chuckle achieved.
One thing WoW will always deliver, good cinematics
thats about all they can really deliver these days. they are like the banshee queen they adore so much, pretty on the outside but wretched and decaying on the inside.
@@Shiirow Actually they still deliver great music and art.
Blizzard have always had good cinematics, right from the getgo.
Its cinematics like these that make me want te resub, but then i remember nearly everything else : /
@@Shiirow
Honestly, i feel like thats Activisons fault, my old man and i came to the same conclusion the other night on the phone, activision have always been a pretty mediocre publisher and now theyre just drawing blizzard in on their forceful consumerism, not including WoW, blizzard have published and half-assed more stuff under AV than when they were their own label, granted, they had a habit of sitting on their laurels in the days before AV, but they produced far, far better content.
My boy Baine can't go down after this! NOT NOW!
He deserves it
F.. traitor
"We wage war while the Earth Mother dies.. We have forgotten what truly matters and my heart can bear it no longer." Baine is too good for the Horde.
"No life is worth living if we cannot be true to our nature..." That is quite... profound
"What is better - to be born good, or to overcome your evil nature through great effort?" - Paarthurnax
Im calling BS, they put that dagger on Derek's back for us to stare at.
I think the same. Its there in the cinematic for a reason. My guess is that he's gonna kill Katherine. Yet another heart shattering betrayal incoming for Jaina
This, but is Jaina so vapid to not still expect a trap of some sort and use it against them, if it indeed is?
Sylvanas does come off as someone who would anticipate this...
You know she takes him to that netherlight temple where Calia Menethil is at, a Lightforge undead
@@maximad5997
Light != good and you can't cleanse psychological torture by shoving a bunch of light into a guy.
He might've already been turned, which maybe why he was in Tirigarde Sound instead of Zuldazar.
They should make a full serie with these animations.
Baine brings out the best in everyone, and truly cares for the people around him. Even during War Crimes he felt tremendously guilty for having defend Garrosh.
BFA had issues, but the leveling storyline was top notch.
Calling it now. Derek already got Widowmakered and is gonna get Katherine.
That's what I'm thinking as well.
Would Baine know that?
George Lakoum he couldn’t know that
@@wereberius9201 Doubt it, I believe that would be a secondary plan if the primary fails for "some reason"
same, after all nathanos told us to help baine in whatever he wanted
IT'S A TRAP! Slyvannas knows that Baine was going to do this.
*Baine laughs maniacally*
@@abdullabushlaibi3371 Baine would never. He doesn't want this. He doesn't want the war or the bloodshed. He would be destroyed if he inadvertantly delivered a ticking bomb to Kul Tiras. It would kill him inside. Maybe that's what Sylvanas wants.
Baine is the last outspoken good still left in the Horde. I hope he stays that way.
@@maniakb416 No he wouldn't, but I wouldn't put it past Sylvanas that she planned for it.
Well, it wouldn't be the first time Baina is fooled
, remember Theramore.
I think so, too. Why should Derek be on that ship and not longer in the chamber of Dazar'Alor if Sylvanas still did not break his will?
He is a living bomb and he perhaps even doesn't know.
Even though I don't play the game, Jania is one of my favorite characters. Has to be the wonderful voice actor that makes her character so loveable
"IS HE THE BOMB THIS TIME?!?!" Oh. I'm not gonna cry!
Why?
In before Derek is still a sleeper agent.
nooooo
I can see it going that way very likely, besides how else did sylvanas plan to get him to jaina? Oh you just walk up to stormwind and say "Hi jaina I'm alive accept me back into your life" it would be pretty suspicious. Maybe sylvanas wanted this to happen she may have even saw it coming and our good man Derek with his trusty blade on his back has the complete trust of the alliance leadership and once he cuts somebody Jaina will renew in her anger especially towards Baine.
the ork leaders agree with your assessment
@@jorgeporras9262 the s at the end of your post stands for SALT
I mean they made the camera angle focus on Derek's back with a weapon at 1:18 which kinda made it obvious where the story direction is going...
not to mention Jaina was a raid boss in horde raid (she might die in this expansion like rastakhan) and Varmathras quote in legion was pretty much foreshadowing.
"So, your Alliance still endures. Longer than I expected, though she has already planted the seeds of its downfall. She is patient, that one.
When your thrones run red with betrayal... when your holy places burn and the shattered mask hangs above your hearth... only then you will know. And it will be too late.
It matters not. You are blind to the true darkness closing in around you."
it all buildup to this.
Aww shucks I was hoping it was Captain Place-Holder. LOL
_Captain P. you'll never know the emptiness inside_
_as we sit ashore on Menethil, waitin' for a ride..._
Captain place-holder for warcheif
LOL
It’s the little things like the hand fluidic movements that make these cinematic all the more lively.
This is beautiful. The rendition of Daughter of the Sea with the panpipes as Baine speaks is gorgeous! Fantastic work cinematics team!
Man I loved this. Such a nice addition that didnt really need to be made.
Notice me senpai.
*An Unexpected Reunion*
I thought for a second the true warchief was returning!
Green jesus? No thank you
Anyone who knows Metzen's whereabouts and reasons will know this will never happen. Not for maybe another 10+ years at least.
I looked at that, and saw Jayna and undead-style ship
I honestly thought there will be some skeletons, they dispatch them effordleasly to realise they are not hostile... And then the voice... Voice of a blonde boy-king, now grey and rugged, with deep wrinkles, and soulless eyes who tried to save his people... Only to forsaken his ownself :
Arthas : ... Jayna?
@Corpsehorser
Pre cata Thrall was badass AF
Garrosh? Lol nobody likes green Jesus
Baine. Like father like son
Earth mother is the world soul of Azeroth confirmed
Bane would make his father proud.
My feels T_T LONG LIVE THE BLOODHOOFS!
Yeah, Cairne will be soon able to say this personally.
Yeah sure, for waiting this long to actually do something. He could have put a stop to things waaay earlier, but he didn't. Something something horrible writing.
*Baine
@@markmikolay9019
Meh
Why is it that in all the cinematics the boats are only crewed by like what looks like 2 or 3 people
Does it not require quite a few people to operate a ship?
They hide from the cameras (?
This is a world with magic, dragons and mailboxes that constantly break the laws of physics. Surely one can come up with a rationale for massive boats not to need large crews :)
Even though we all know it's to keep the rendering times manageable lol
jainia can fly and fire the goddamn cannons at the same time, doubt a crew can do that!
Or as we have seen. Just jaina. Managing a ship as well as making magic canons and such
Well for the horde ship, Zelling was using the tidesage powers/prayers to move it :3
this one kinda broke my heart, especially after you read the novels like the shattering . this feels like losing a true hero as you know sylvanis is going to kill him or torture him. the horde are left in a very messed up situation. . .do they stick to their warchief and follow their leader. . . .or break away and stick to their honor and heritage as "the horde" . . .now this is comming from an Ally main and all i can say is , even as an ally, you HAVE to respect saurfang and baine. . . the horde had MANY heroes that you just cant help but love and respect. . .baine being one. Hopefully things turn out in a brighter direction before its too late.
- ZRGames agreed. Baine dropping that Native American wisdom was just........beautiful. You’ve done good Baine, you’ve done good.
The storytelling in WoW was always good but in BFA it's next level. The cinematics have gotten so much better than in the first few expansions.
Wait so did Baine retreat to Thunder Bluff? O.
Siege of Thunder Bluff coming Autumn 2019 😏
In the 8.1.5 Horde War Campaign, Sylvanas imprisons Baine for returning Derek to Jaina.
Genegerbread Ah, I’m on EU so I haven’t been able to play yet!
I'm ready for Warlords of Lordaeron.
You gotta wonder what the other tauren leaders will think about that. Like Hamuul being Baines advisor, the sunwalkers, Ebonhorn and Mayla.
@@jayej3834 Well after Baine got arrested Mayla was pretty pissed about that. And I think Raxxa is also going to do something soon (cuz Zelling got killed by Nathanos)
"No life is worth living if we cannot be true to our nature!"
The nature of a walking barbeque might like this, but shouldn't we the forsaken then also be allowed to be true to our nature? Or is it just the pacifist BBQ that gets to?
I love the animation of her hand twitching to cancel the spell after Derek said yes
"The Shattering: Prelude to Cataclysm" nostalgia hits hard. Lore and arts team are doing an amazing job! :)
There is NO WAY Sylvanas would allow a pawn like Derek to escape. He is corrupted and now Baine just delivered the pawn to the chess board. Guess who is gonna get blamed when Derek snaps and does Sylvanas's bidding? Ol' Baine is about to look reeeeeeaaaaaaalllllyyyy bad!
Sylvanas look very angry when Derek leave for freedomland
Mezmer5 yes, but if you chose Sylvanas instead Saurfang and tell her Blaine’s plan she asks us to do everything he says. Also Nathanos said that Derek would be held in Zuldazar until he gets infested, but Baine steals him already in Tiragarde Sound. And yes, there was no other way to get a suddenly resurrected brother to Jaina then by marking a betrayer in the Horde. So yes Sylvanas is angry that Baine betrayed her but I’m sure not that he sent Derek to the Alliance
@Bergr B because she found traitors. Every leader will be upset if he knows that some of his servants is not loyal to him
@Bergr B Jaina will not be killed because she is an important character to this expansion, not because she is that smart mage. Personally i think Derek will assassinate Catherine who would like to see her ressurected son, because Catherine is not the main hero of this expansion and she is useless as Rastakhan. Rasta was needed to make Talanji queen, Catherine - to make Jaina lord-admiral. They both have done what they had to, now they can go
Derek might not be able to go to Catherine but who says Catherine will have the same cunning when hearing about Derek’s return? We might just see Catherine throw all rationality aside and rush to Derek’s side without anyone else knowing and thus the plot thickens.
gotta admit, when i saw this actually ingame, while questing, there was tears. blizz should make an actual movie in this style. just animation. who's in on that?
Baine demonstrates what true honor is 👍
"For as long as stars do shine."
I wish baine would be the Warchief!, he would be perfect for it. And i hope this is not a trap like most people are saying.
I absolutely love Baine, thank you Jamieson Price for making such a great character feel so real.
really well done cinematic, just played through the questchain and only came say that I really enjoyed it!
I want to say so much about "IS HE THE BOMB THIS TIME?" It was the perfect line. Delivered perfectly. It made me so sad with Jaina. Incredible cinematic.
Great job Blizz, there can be said many things about this expansion, but some of the cinematics are one of the best you've done :)
Now that's my High Chieftain!! #TaurenPride
This must become a New thing #TaurenPride
#CowPride FTFY
#taurenpride for life
We trolls, wished we could do the same brudda
Jamail -van Westering ya but no one can take a troll seriously
I'm still your brother Jaina, as long as stars do shine...😢 😭
the game may be a shadow of what it used to be, but the artists behind the cinematics are still at it with their hearts
They are better than ever.
There u have a warchief that will never be one. Cause with a guy like baine in charge, there will be no wow. Respect Baine, For the Alliance
While I am an avid and 100% dedicated Alliance player who wouldn't roll Horde even when under the pain of death, I will always fully and wholeheartedly admire and respect the Tauren of Kalimdor.
They are the heart of the otherwise savage Horde. And Baine is the physical embodiment of that heart.
So. As an Alliance player: Baine for Warchief!
what REALLY gets me is the fact they have bits and pieces of what I do believe is either mulgore or Thunder bluff/totem music sprinkled in here and there.
many months pass, i still feel it when i watch this again.
The Tauren do not belong in the Horde. Anduin would welcome them.
WRATH2501 We live in harmony with nature so the Night elves would be cool with it right?
@@Dogmaguy74 Just about everyone in the Alliance would be cool with it.
The Alliance has been trying to wipe out the Tauren for years now, and now you expect all of them to come over and act like all of that never happened?
"We have forgot what truly matters, and my heart can bare it no longer" I know this game has gone far off the path of what we used to know, but it's still for some of us a game that we grew up playing and loving, I may not be on as often as I used to be but I will never stop playing this game until it's gone completely...
It's because we feel genuine loyalty to characters in it. Alliance characters practically RAISED Anduin.
jaina is so beautiful in this cinematic. so much emotions in her... and perhaps this will be my first tattoo: I am still your brother for as long as stars do shine
This is a truly a masterpiece, just wow!! everything is just spot on.
They miss the chance to say "Theramore is no more" 0:38
Some times Theraless is Theramore.
@@Jognt Came here just to like that pun
That was awesome I honestly don’t know what else I can say.
That moment between the tauren and jaine made me feel emotional , the tauren's voice actor was perfect for that..
Each time I watch warcraft related videos, I get goosbumps, and when the get emotional, I do as well :C
This lore is the only one I love so much out of all the fictional Universes
Actually a good cinematic, good job blizz
Anyone think it is notable that Derek verbally pauses and says "before I WAS twisted to her will" instead of "before I COULD BE twisted to her will"?
He knows sylvanas tried to twist him, it was the whole point of him being raised then tortured in the great seal. Also even if he didn't know, baine would have told him
Just take me now, Jaina...my body is ready...
Their cinematics look so amazing these days... they just keep getting better and better
Dear God guys... the spoiler is for the CUTSCENE itself...
So... Why haven't they made Baine Bloodhoof the Warchief yet? He seems like the most reasonable candidate
because they needed an antagonist
I may not be a horde player but I respect them a lot when they do this
0:55 OMG! The sound player to Jaina terrified me and excited me, I loved him so much
“No life is worth living if we cannot be true to our nature.” Paarthurnax would disagree
Exactly, even trough I think its hitting here limitations of English language, Bane thinks about what he thinks in his mind vs decisions of Horde so his nature is his mind, on other hand Paarthurnax means by nature is his kinda inborn temptation and he is fighting it with his mind.
At least that's what I take from it.
Blizzard Cinematics.... So good. They need to make a serie out of this!!!!
Friendship with Sylvanas ENDED
Baine and Varok are my best friends now
"No life is worth living if we cannot be true to ourselves
"
this is so touching