Major Geological Discoveries From Pluto and Its Moon Charon
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Hello and welcome! My name is Anton and in this video, we will talk about new discoveries from Pluto and Charon
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Pluto still a planet? • Study Explains Why Plu...
0:00 Pluto and Charon discoveries
0:43 Mystery of Pluto's heart solved
4:10 Ocean updates
5:00 Huge volcano
6:35 Charon chasms and their origin
8:50 No oceans at all ?
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Ironic that when I was a kid and Pluto was considered a planet it was always thought to be just a boring chunk of rock and ice. Now, even though it's not a planet anymore it's turned out to be quite an interesting, and apparently geologically active place. Bless its little heart.
Well, it still is a planet, it's a dwarf planet.
*its
@@GrainGrowndey rote it write.
@@SlinkyD Keep learning English, kiddo.
@@GrainGrown the best way to truly understand English is to learn another language. Es la verdad...
We stand with Pluto!
We love you Pluto and we're glad you're back in the news! Great job. Good boy!
I read on the news today that NASA's Voyager 1, having been out of contact with Earth for months, is finally back in contact! I had a "HELL YEAH!" moment I must admit. NASA staff discovered that a portion of the subsystem's memory wasn't working, rendering the data useless. Unfortunately, the team couldn't simply store the affected code in other parts of the memory, since the code was too large to be stored in its entirety elsewhere - after all, these systems date back to the early 1970s. So the team came up with a clever solution: they started slicing up the affected code into sections and stored them in various places across the FDS. (That's not a quick process: Voyager 1 is currently over 15 billion miles away, which means it takes a signal a total of 45 hours to make its way to the probe and back.) They're going to spend the next several weeks fixing this little probe that we sent out 50 years ago.. I LOVE news like this! I can't wait to see what we learn from 15 billion miles away!
The last of the 'Starships'... I read recently that oddly enough, today's engineers don't even have good and complete records of the how it was designed and built.
New Horizons was a terrific mission. Without it, Pluto would still be just a blurry tiny picture. We need more missions to the outer (dwarf) planets.
The second I saw the title I was like "It's a mass relay! I knew it!"
Pluto is my favorite planet. ❤
millennial moment
Pluto is my favorite dwarf planet. Ceres is second. Earth is my favorite planet. Mercury is second.
@@Ann-snowshoeingonEnceladusWhat about Saturn?
@@Diskaria Saturn is the prettiest planet, with some very interesting moons.
Seeing them so vividly took my breath away
The atmosphere around Uranus did that to me
Loved the “face of Pluto”. I needed a chuckle today. Bless you!
To everyone who says that Pluto is a planet, they are correct. Pluto is a planet because it has a differentiated crust from it's own gravity, it's just a minor planet because it doesn't significantly alter the path of other objects in its orbit. Minor planet status can actually have nothing to do with a planet's actual size.
When I first came to the Sol system a long time ago Pluto was the very first planet I met and really got to know. But as young star crossed lovers often do, we eventually went our separate ways and I moved on to the inner planets. Even though Pluto and I have grew further apart as the years went by, I will always remember her fondly as my first true planet. And I don't give a damn what Neil DeGrasse Tyson says - she will always be a planet to me!
Anton your smile at the end is priceless 🙏
Anton, I just wanted to stop and say I love your content. Thank you for providing this channel.
To me, if Mercury is considered a planet, then Pluto should be as well.
Thank you for another interesting video Anton!
Love your videos Anton, plus daily uploads like this is friggin amazing, thanks a bunch. ❤
Yes, Pluto is a planet. Just because some jokers at the IAU voted that it isn't has no basis in actual science. Nobody questioned that it was a planet until we started finding a lot more objects out there in the solar system that could potentially be planets too. And for whatever reason that was considered a "bad" thing. So they drew the line at Pluto, coming up with criteria designed specifically to disqualify Pluto. It's pretty stupid really. Most actual astronomers I've talked to about it still consider it a planet (I'm an amateur astronomer so I bump into real ones now and again).
The IAU doesn't speak for all of humanity.
Yeah it’s time “hello people”.
Thanks Anton. 👍
Thanks for all the great work you do. 😊
We love your voice and vibe, Anton! ❤❤❤ big fans from Tucson
Congratulations getting over a million subscribers I'm not sure when it happened since it has been years since I've looked! You're a genius dude! Keep up the great work! Every video you make will forever be education for the future! Good to you
"Hey, remember Pluto?"
No. Nope, since it got deplanetted, I have completely forgotten it.
What it this "plootoh"?
lmfao I love this comment
What's this, "Sha-ron" he refers to.
Yes I cannot un see the Pluto character now. A heart and a dog head. Haha love it
Not just any dog; thats Pluto!
I look forward to your videos every day.
Wonderful as always Anton. Thank you. 👍😃
Really glorious seeing your chat about these essential members of the Solar Family.
Make Pluto Great Again!
To you Pluto was only a planet but to me he will always be my friend!
I still cant believe people still think Pluto isnt a planet
It got its own atmosphere, a strong enough gravity, a moon, its own geology ! Its all there !
It is a planet, a dwarf planet.
What carlos said. Also, Pluto and Charon orbit each other unlike regular planets.
Pluto is smaller than Russia. That's why Pluto is a dwarf planet.
*can't
*isn't
*It's
*no space before exclamation mark
@@GrainGrown my favotlrite pet peeves are people using their for they're and your for you're. And i am not even an native english speaker.
Thank you Anton for another amazing episode !
Heck, Pluto and Charon might as well be called binary dwarf planets.
If the solar object is more round and larger than a typical asteroid, it might as well still be a planet.
This includes Ceres.
Thank you Anton, I can't wait for your new videos
Pluto's moon wants to talk to the manager about how its name is pronounced.
It's pronounced Sharon in honour of the discoverer's wife.
@rais1953 It should be happy that Anton promoted it to a planet at 7:04
Kayron?
@@quincunx1443 Closer. Kah-ron.
@@rais1953No, Charon is from the underworld along with Pluto. Charon pilots the boat across the river Styx.
Nice video,the Pluto face was new to me ,thanks🖐
Thanks Anton, interesting as always..
Pluto is still a planet
Pluto will always be a planet in my heart. 💓
Nothing similar seems to occupy such a big space in you Heart.
Awesome as always. Thank you.
I love these videos.
I remember the first blotchy photos of Pluto in the 1990s. So much has happened in the world of Astrophysics and Astronomy.
I’ve always rooted for Pluto. 💯
Thank you Anton
Keep up the good work
What does it matter if Pluto is a planet or not. The important thing is the geology and other exciting discoveries.
It doesn’t matter but dang arguing is fun
Poor Pluto The Tyrion Lannister of the solar system, kicked out of the family because it is a Dwarf. As far as I am concerned Pluto is a planet and still part of the solar system family.
No one removed planet from its designation. It just gained “dwarf”. Only monsters think dwarfism makes you less.
Pluto and charon are like earth and moon
Best Channel on UA-cam!!
Pluto will always be my fav!
Pluto is a planet!
High pressure lowers water's freezing point. So does salt and propylene glycol. I wonder if there are chemical compounds in Pluot's water that keeps it from freezing?
Ammonia and salt would do it. Plenty of both out there.
Masterful, one-off subtle, out-of-nowhere 'face of Pluto' bit.
At 0:44 ! The most beautiful pic of pluto ive ever seen ! Make pluto a planet again ! MPAPA !
134340 Pluto is a dwarf planet.
@@RideAcrossTheRiver Yes, and it is basically the king of the dwarf planets. How many dwarf planets can most people name?
It went from being some people's favorite planet (other than Earth, obviously) to pretty much everyone's favorite dwarf planet, including mine. The Pluto and Charon duo is amazing, thank you NASA and New Horizons!
@@Ann-snowshoeingonEnceladus Some people can name Eris and Sedna.
The term dwarf planet still has the word planet in it.
Which is an idiotic situation, and just goes to show that the whole debate and definition was a farce driven more by ideology than good science. The term "planet" is a relic from Ancient Greece when the best observational tools anyone had was the Mk.1 Eyeball and all that anyone knew about them was that they appeared to wander in the sky relative to the celestial sphere. The definition of "planet" wasn't driven by a desire to classify sub-stellar bodies in the best possible way but to preserve the ancient planets and (depending on faction) whether to include or exclude Pluto.
Most astronomers probably didn't care all that much how "planet" was defined so long as it was, but of the vocal ones who did, some were hellbent on preserving the planetary status of Pluto even if that meant being more inclusive, and the side that won out were hellbent on excluding Pluto even if that meant calling it a dwarf planet but insisting that dwarf planets aren't planets. Dwarf stars are still very much stars, otherwise the sun wouldn't be one.
So now we have a category which includes Ceres and Pluto which are nothing alike, and a category which includes Mercury and Jupiter, which are nothing alike. And Mercury, Ceres, and Ganymede which are much more similar than either of the previous pairs, all in different categories. Plus, the definition can't handle rogue planets.
I think it's now Little Planet.
Exactly!
They prefer to be called little people.
@@lunatickoala Ironically, a similar dilemma was how the IAU was formed to begin with.
When they found Ceres, they made it a planet... but then they found the rest of the asteroid belt... so they got all the astronomers together, had a vote and demoted it to an asteroid. The Pluto vote was much the same, only that with the "dwarf" category, Ceres is now a "planet" again.
Cool!
I love you Anton thank you
Loved the humour... the image of cartoon pluto made me laugh 😂 thanks
I would laff so hard if Tyson was like “ we didn’t know it wasn’t dead … we can’t just go back an make it a planet guys think… I know it’s not a planet but planet-like .” 😂
I think you already said the answer: minimal tidal friction due to both bodies being tidally locked and not very massive. Europa and Enceladus have enormous tidal stresses, so it's no surprise they have oceans.
Earth has a moderately rapid rotation and a massive satellite, and is close to its parent star, so our planet has great tidal stresses as well.
@@RideAcrossTheRiver Not nearly what those other moons experience.
@@damiensmith9240 Earth is far more active and dynamic than either of those moons.
@@RideAcrossTheRiver the tidal forces on Europa far outweigh the tidal forces on Earth, due to the Moon and Sun.
@@damiensmith9240 Europa has very little activity other than the occasional weak plume. Earth is half molten rock.
We love you, Pluto.
You Rock Anton💫🌊😁
Are dwarf people still people?
Then Pluto is a planet.
If Pluto is a planet Eris is too. If Eris is not a planet neither is Pluto. Justice for Eris, the dwarf planet people who talk about Pluto being a planet fail to mention.
Eris is just alright with me
I like eris better anyways
I want orbiters around Uranus, Neptune and Pluto. We haven't studied the outer worlds enough. 🚀👽🌌
That's the spirit, Tiger. Go get 'em!
I know 1 thing:
I didn't get 8 planets and 1 dwarf planet tattooed on my arm.
Officially it is 8 planets, 5 dwarf planets, and counting,
You need to add couple dwarfs more, like Eris and Ceres etc.
Better include the Moon and Titan as well as all the other large moons of Jupiter and Saturn... They've cleared their orbits and they're spherical.
@@Unmannedair Neither orbit the sun.
@@JimUKI thought we cared about composition, not orbit? 😏
God but Pluto is such a pretty little rock. It's shame it's so far away, I'd love to be able to see that in a backyard scope. Truly gorgeous.
Also, yes, it IS a planet. I'm a fossil from the time where it was defined as such and I am never letting go.
Quick Note: Only 30 something likes and the comments are just a burning up with IT'S A PLANET IT'S NOT A PLANET GRRRRR LET'S ALL MORTAL KOMBAT IT OUT OVER *NOTHING.* Chill. It was a JOKE. Put your egos back in the holes they fell out of. Find something that actually MATTERS to lose your minds over.
It's smaller than the moon. It's not a planet.
@@Jay-gf8tm P L A N E T. I will not be moved on this issue. I claim my right as a grump ass fossil.
Yes it is.
@@Jay-gf8tmand mercury is smaller than ganymede
@@Jay-gf8tm Pluto is a planet. Dwarf planets are planets that are too small to be considered major planets, which are the Big Eight of Mercury through Neptune.
Pluto is a dwarf planetary system. It’s active, evolves, probably develops a significant atmosphere and definitely undergoes resurfacing. It deserves a dedicated orbiter.
Pluto has heart just like his namesake....and is a little goofy too....
Cthulhu !
Time to reinstate Pluto. 🐕 And never mind "'some people' still believe is a planet", It is a planet, always was, always will be; even if 'some people' say it isn't. From a wonderful person.
A dwarf planet is a planet, but not big enough to be a major planet. Pluto is a dwarf planet and therefore a planet. The IAU is stupid and violated basic rules about taxonomy and language.
If we admitted Pluto as a planet, we'd have to admit that the pluto-charon system is a double planet, that Vesta is a planet, that a whole bunch of kuiper belt objects are planets, and some people are really, really attached to their notion of the solar system having 8-9 planets because it fits neatly on a school poster so they don't want to admit that the solar system is an absolute junk pile of planets big and small. So, Pluto isn't a planet and we have no good word to discuss bodies sufficiently large in mass to form a rounded body that primarily orbits the sun rather than another, larger body.
@@danieldover3745 "some people are really, really attached to their notion of the solar system having 8-9 planets because it fits neatly on a school poster"
Yeah, it's almost like categorizations are only useful when they help people... you know, categorize things neatly? Clearly, a dwarf planet shouldn't be in the same category as an actual planet. There's a lot of differences for orbits, formation, size, etc. that make it very useful to categorize these objects differently.
It would be absurd to pretend as if some far-away Kuiper-belt object belongs to the same category as Jupiter or Earth, or even Mercury (small as it is, the fact it is a stand-alone object in an otherwise cleared orbit is a significant difference that warrants a different category from things like Pluto - or moons like Titan which is actually larger than both but orbiting a planet rather than a star).
There's a huge difference between the gas giants and terrestrial planets and it's absurd to compare the two, which is why we have two completely different categories for them. Most gas giants don't even have a solid surface in any meaningful sense. And yet these two wildly different sorts of bodies are both considered planets, because they are circular and orbit the sun, so it's useful to describe them that way.
But not kuiper belt objects, or rounded objects that happen to be in asteroid fields. Because reasons. Even though they very similar in many ways to terrestrial planets.
@@danieldover3745 Categories are there to help organize knowledge. You can go ahead and tell people to think of all dwarf planets as the same as planets, but that obviously would overload the category, and people would just use other words to clarify what they actually mean (maybe "major planets" versus "minor planets" or whatever linguistic system one could imagine).
The reality is that dwarf planets are so much less significant to the formation and organization of a star system (by definition, as they have not significantly cleared their orbit / aren't the major influencing force within their orbit), so they get put into a different category. And, just to note, the boundary between gas giants and terrestrial planets can be rather fluid (in some cases, it's just a question of accumulation of gas, and formation history - yes, visually and "practically" they are very different - but from a standpoint of star system organization, dwarf planets play a minor role, while planets are much more similar in their roles).
0:51 it looks like candy 🍬 a jawbreaker 😂
I would love to see a Pluto orbiter and lander some day
Yes!! Maybe even a little helicopter like Ingenuity (if Pluto's exosphere could support it). I would love that, too!
Dogs are adorned even by our planets,that’s how special they are✌️♥️
I would be fine with the 'pluto is a planet' crew if they also accepted Eris and Ceres and the other dwarf planets as planets too, instead of just making an exception for Pluto.
Ceres is a chunk of Tiamat.....Eris was somebody's moon.....but..after being captured into their own orbits, for all this time since Tiamat exploded, they could & probably should be considered planets.
@@Andy-df5fjI thought Eris was near enough the same size as Pluto. Of course, pluto as a system may be larger than the Eris system for all I know.
@@NuLiForm tiamat?
@@mrpocock
Thank you. I stand corrected. Eres is actually even slightly larger.
@@mrpocock it's now your asteroid belt
Hello Wonderful Person to you too. 👋
NOW I SEE PLUTO ON PLUTO!!! DAMN YOU ANTON!😂
'Your mom thought i was big enough.' -Pluto
Pluto is a cold, cold celestial dwarf.
Hello Wonderful people 👋
Pluto is my favorite planet now.
Pluto is a planet. That’s what I learned at school, all my books says it. Some lunatics (probably the same behind flat earth) saying otherwise is not going to change anything. I know the “reason” behind, makes no sense. Some people gets to higher positions and like to change the status quo, leaving their mark and feeling important.
Do you even know why it was demoted
It’s the same reason we have an asteroid belt instead of a million planets
Some lunatic...you mean people whose entire careers are about this stuff? Your comment just blows my mind. Just because something doesn't make sense to you doesn't mean it's wrong, or some kind of politics (I don't even know what tf you're talking about in that last part). It just means you need to stop commenting and read a book or two 😂
@@oberonpanopticonhe didn't even watch the video
Mike Brown and Neil DeGrass Tyson do NOT speak for the scientific community at large. Many of us that are astronomers don't recognize the wholly arbitrary ruling issued by the IAU.
I’m an engineer. Fact driven. In real life, most decisions are not… normally driven by career driven people. That’s the modern world: lots of powerpoints and opinions, little attention given to data and reality. I pity you guys that embrace and buy BS this easily.
I think if they're large enough to become spherical and not completely oblong, should be designated a planet.
That's a pretty small bar... There'd be quite a large number of asteroids that meet that qualification
@@Unmannedair then we best get to naming them then.
Um, earth is an oblate elipsoid... so... do we live on Luna's moon?
Wonderful stuff from far far away but not as far as the Oort cloud 💫🌞🥶
Mark my words! There will be a day when, like the mighty Brontosaur, Pluto will be restored to its rightful place…as a planet 😂
There most certainly will - right after it finally clears its own orbit. Checking the calendar, it appears to be scheduled to happen in Never the 3rd.
But the brontosaur was never a planet...
@@spvillanowhoever came up with clearing an orbit to be a criteria for planethood? That's an absolutely ridiculous criteria. I mean if you're using that criteria and you ignore the primary body stipulation, then a lot of the moons of Saturn qualify as planets.
@@Unmannedair agreed 👍
@@Unmannedair but it was a Dino that was cancelled and reinstated. Like Pluto is a planet that was demoted, but will be reinstated.
Pluto being a "planet" reminds me that we're so far removed from ancient astonomers we forgot what the thing even is.
Sure, Pluto's a "wanderer," and it's a fun celestrial object (more like system), but it's really its own thing.
Besides internal stresses and pressure keeping some things in a liquid state, I'm sure radioactive decay in some objects keeps them a bit warmer than we'd expect too
134340 Pluto is a planet--a type known as a dwarf planet. As with 1 Ceres and 4 Vesta of the Asteroid Belt, 134340 Pluto is one of the largest members of its place in the Kuiper Belt. Surface geologic activity is NOT a criterion in planetary classification.
Pluto is STILL a planet.
So we now have 150+ planets we need to teach our kids? Or can you stop being a little child and realize a dwarf planet is still a planet literally by name. It is literally small and yet also a planet, which dwarf planet describes precisely, and you wanna say it being small is irrelevant??
That's just complete denial.
Smaller than the moon
being smaller than the moon means nothing, Pluto is my main man and he is a planet
@@cralo2569 well at least you're making your denial obvious instead of trying to actually debate.
Can you please stop referring to everybody as children? The minimum age to use UA-cam is 13... And we're all aware that that gets violated constantly, but still... Nobody is a child and nobody appreciates you talking down to them. Your use of the word denial is tiresome and boring. It also suggests a sort of moralistic superiority that is utterly unfriendly to a rational conversation.
Pluto's kinda Goofy.
Hey Anton
i worked on the BBC tv series "the planets" that aired back in 2000 and i was responsible for building models of the planets and solar system (and most of the satellites orbiting earth and the moon) so we could have visuals of what they might appear like from space. at the time i think pluto's orbit was INSIDE the orbit of neptune, and we also were trying to figure out what to do with charon, as very little was known about it at the time. i have some sequences on my channel if you scroll back 25 years...
I’m old, I haven’t got 25 years left, I’m sure it’s very interesting
Pluto is a planet in the same way a dwarf is still a perfectly good human. It's just smaller in stature than it's other orbital cousins.
Then I can say every dwarf planet and asteroid I think is big enough can also be a planet. Hence now there are thousands of planets.
...and that right there is why pluto is not a planet!
Yeah, it's a dwarf planet. It ain't no asteroid, there's no mistaking that! But to say an object smaller than our own moon is a full-size planet is a hilarious demonstration of cognitive dissonance.
Bad criteria aside, a rock smaller than our moon just is NOT a planet no matter how hard you cry.
@@cherriberri8373 Definition of a planet:
1) It must orbit a star (in our cosmic neighborhood, the Sun).
2) It must be big enough to have enough gravity to force it into a spherical shape.
3) It must be big enough that its gravity has cleared away any other objects of a similar size near its orbit around the Sun.
Diameter is not a factor. It can be the size of a tennis ball and still qualify. Pluto only fails item 3 and that's largely due to the number of orbit's it has made since the formation of the solar system compared to the other planets.
@@CarlosAM1 Sure, the label of planet needs a definition. No problem. As mentioned in my comment to the other pluto hater Pluto only failed criteria 3, it hasn't cleared it's orbit of debris sufficiently. But, I would say this is less about it's size or gravity and more about how long it takes to make an orbit, so it has had fewer laps around the sun to get that job done.
Pluto takes 248 years for 1 orbit. The next furthest out, Neptune, is 165years. Compared to the Earth Pluto has had 1/248th the time to clear it's orbit objects. So it's not really about size, it's about time in this case. Size is not completely unrelated, but it's more about mass.
@@avi8r66 Every asteroid meets criteria one, a bunch of objects meet criteria two (pluto, eris, gonggong, makemake, quaoar, ceres, orcus, etc)
which is precisely why criteria 3 exists. Not to mention pluto was thought to be way bigger than it actually is, and that it has a very elliptical and inclined orbit far different to literally every other planet, it's also inside an asteroid belt and of course has both not cleared it's orbit and has objects bigger than itself in said belt (also with very elliptical and inclined orbits).
Hell, pluto even has a resonance with Neptune, an effect of Neptune "clearing its neighborhood" from objects like pluto.
I don't give a hot damn what anyone says. Pluto is a planet.
What about eris, ceres, makemake, haumea, quaoar, Sedna, 2002 MS4, orcus, gonggong, salacia, ixion and Varuna?
@@oberonpanopticonwhatabout whatabout whatabout
@@oberonpanopticon they can join the planet club too.
Most of the IAU was not in attendance for the vote so I disagree with it as well
I still consider Pluto a planet because even by their own metrics, every planet fails the "clear your orbit" requirement.
the face of Pluto hahaha! I can't unsee it and I can't stop laughing. I had to pause the vid. Seriously tho... great vid
it seems the ones tidally-locked have more difficulty maintaing liquid states-
keepin' it cool, like usual...😎
When you realize that Pluto is only about 2/3 the diameter of the Moon, you realized that it's really not a planet, but a planetoid.
Jupiter's moon Ganymede is larger than Mercury. And the Moon is actually really big as moons go - it's the largest natural satellite, relative to the size of its parent body, in the whole solar system by several orders of magnitude. Pluto has a more active geology than either Mars or Mercury and if a body its size were in Mercury's orbit it'd unquestionably be considered a planet
@@rhonafenwick5643 Almost like it's nonsensical to classify these objects based on how they orbit instead of what they actually are. What is this, astrology?!
@@JakXLTWe gotta categorize them somehow
No categorization system is perfect, so you might as well choose the one that makes everyone mad
Size is of no consequence. Judge me by my size, do you? Hmmm?
@@oberonpanopticon It doesn't make me mad at all; I like what the Astronomical Society came up with. It makes sense.
It is odd how many people get emotional on the subject, as if it affects their daily life in some way.
My suggestion to them: look on it as a promotion. From some people's favorite planet to pretty much everyone's favorite dwarf planet.
I've heard people say that it's an unbelievable coincidence that the Sun and Moon appear the exact same size in our sky right now. I think the fact that there's a giant profile of Pluto, on Pluto, is far more improbable. Especially since it was named 90 years before we knew.
I think you mean the Sun and the Mood. There's no earth in the sky 😆
@@KenFullman Yep Duhhhrrrrrrrrrrr 🤣
I think you meant the Sun and the Moon
When they said it has an atmosphere!🤔
It does have an exosphere. I wonder if it's thick enough to support a helicopter like Ingenuity? That would be amazing.
Hi Anton! I hope you have seen that Voyager in online again.
Planet Pluto gang 🤍 I’ll never give up on you Pluto
What about eris, ceres, makemake, haumea, quaoar, Sedna, 2002 MS4, orcus, gonggong, salacia, ixion and Varuna?
Why can't boomers accept scientific facts?
@@oberonpanopticon If they're at least as big as Pluto and they orbit the sun, they're planets! Why is that so hard?