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This podcast was recorded on 15th January ’2024 at The Ranveer Show studio.
This is another medical and science-related podcast where we welcome Dr. Abby Philips popularly known as “Liver Doc”. He is an Indian hepatologist and clinician-scientist known for his critical views of alternative medicine. He has a wide social media presence where he discusses his findings and research works on the negative effects of alternative medicines.
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My father is Doctor (MBBS). I had IBS, for which I took treatment for more than 3 years, but no luck. Then my father who is doctor himself, took me to his friend who is ayurvedic doctor (vaidya). He enquired about me, my lifestyle, eating and sleeping habits examined me and then told me it would take 6 months to cure. I took the medicines for around 7-8 months. This was in 2015. From then till now it's been 9 years in 2024 I am all good without any medicine.
Do you have the doctor’s reference?
I also need the doctor’s number
Multi system or combination therapy is excellent than single therapy
Same I had. Ibs and I am in ayurveda now nothing worked gastro,homeopath
I suffered from gluten related injury and IBS from the age of 14 after introduction of wheat in Kerala. By 26 intestine snapped and started bleeding. Necrotic intestine. I survived. Most allopathic medicines like flagyl were banned. By 37 I took a Bengali with acute Entamoebic infection to a 90 years old ayurvedic sage. I also followed instructions irregularly. My Bengali friend was completely cured. I got intermittent relief. Now I am 75 I watch with scorn gastrologists still in infancy with around 16 nonsensical medicines.
My mother was given 1.5 years by Doctors due to liver condition. With ayurvedic medicine she managed to survive 8 years. I believe in ayurvedic medicine.
Yeah. No doctor gives you 1.5 years for a liver condition until and unless it's hepatic carcinoma (cancer). Even then there are transplant options which can't cure cancer but prolong life
@@rohan.999exactly 😂
Also survival bias, many other patients being treated with ayuveda having same disease would have died. But we won't hear from those people complaining about ayurveda. But here you are because somehow your mother survived longer than the doctor said, so it's definitely because of Ayurveda
It's not system, it's doctor who treats, ayurveda may also have good doctor like that of morden medicine doctors
there are multiple factors whic can affect whatever liver condition ur mother had. also there is no gurantee tht ur doctor gave the best timings. there are multiple cases where doctors estimated the patients lives and they outlived them. so nothing new from ur interpretation
He claims because he is sacred of ayurved
exactly..insecurity issue
100% true
😂😂ryt
Sacred or scared? RIP ENGLISH
Ashwagandha causes liver damage he said, but that is when you take too much of this, and also there is liver damage done when taken paracetamol, multivitamin, etc
Exactly, a doc tells you the right prescription based on research. What about aswagandha, where is the research on it that shows its significance?
Already proven do some research yourself.
@@jayanttarare6136nothing is proven, show the research and meta analysis
@@avinashnagadi2700 plenty of research articles have proven the neuroregenerative and cardiorespiratory endurance enhancing actions of ashwagandha. You can access the research articles by just googling.
And it's doctors themselves who told us this, modern medicine constantly finds it's own flaws and works to eliminate them. Unlike snake oil that is Ayurveda.
Ranveer if it is debate or discussion between ayurvedic and modern medicine there should be experts from both pathy right?
Right 👍
My cousin went to BAMS, and she said that professors don't study Ayurveda themselves. So what kind of experts are you talking about.
@@priyanshuvettori5179you should have sent her to a good reputed college. This is not the case everywhere
They don't show up to debate. No facts just ancient vibes ✨✨
Ayurveda practitioners do not respond to the debate or such discussions with proper evidence. They have faith and tradition which is default to them, no changes yet.
I was suffering from psoriasis last 10 years but after 6 months ayurvedic treatment it cure completly
I am glad you are presenting on this topic - In the example you give of ' Jaundice " and that Ayurveda would treat them all the same - That is simply not true ..A skilled practitioner would not treat them all the same. they would read the pulse and examine the tounge - examine the quality of the speech, the eyes, ask about urine - color/ quality and quantity - same for stools- ask about sleep - ask about life stresses, ask ' what else has the jaundice person tried and has there been any benefit? I admit I am an Ayurvedic practitioner ( that is born in the west - so I was raised with Allopathic medicine and I value it too ). However, I would use caution to say " Allopathic medicine is a scam with the pharmacutical companies making contracts with allopathic hospitals - that ' require" MD s to " offer" what even new ( expensive ) drug that has been created -( even tho the old - or generic version may function quite well ). Please note - if I had Heb B. - I would likely go with an Allopathic route initially - to get blood work / exacting scientific tests , ect. then use all of my knowledge of Ayurveda and western herbs to support my liver. Please Please stop vilifying alternative forms of medicine - we would do better to create systems of confluence rather than exclusion
Same I have ibs and. Taking ayurveda before I used gastro and homeopathy nothing worked
But what different kinds of treatment would you use?
But the question still remains unanswered here and elsewhere.....Does ayurveda have something similar to scientific evidence for their claims of treatment of severe diseases? Where can this evidence be found in modern medical literature?
What the doctor is saying is that there are some side effects with ayervedic medicine. What he is not saying is there 1000s of side effects in modern medicines as well.
Mf ayuveda is bullshit
But at least those side effects are well-known and well-documented. So the patient can make an informed decision on its own. But in the case of Ayurvedic medicines, those are marketed as 'natural' and do not have any side effects. They aren't even tested.
Yes exactly correct
He has to otherwise these useless doctors will have no business. Also what medical mafia companies who pay these doctors will do ? He even dont have basic idea of Ayurved, forget expertise. and he is commenting on Ayurved.
They are. The problem is ayurved has to fight entire ecosystem of allopathic mafia companies and goernment bodies to promote its truth. you know in india, there are many scientists has been killed literally becuase they found some useful solutions of big deceases in Ayurvedic or plant based medicines ?@@samgarg5228
Huge mistake to bring this "pseudo doc" on your show, Ranveer. Please take the episode down. Not only is he putting the Ayurvedic Doctors down, He's ignorantly ranting about a 5000 year plus ancient system of medicine and the science of Life! People who watch your podcast regularly would think twice before consulting an ayurvedic doctor.
How does "5000 years" prove anything about it being science? Science doesn't work by this sort of illogical fallacy. No amount of pseudo nationalism and self-glorification of past is a substitute for Science. "5000 years" or "1 billion years" or belief of 8 billion people on Earth don't make a pseudoscience science. Go for randomised double blind clinical trials and get them published in peer reviewed journal like Lancet, Nature. Then everyone will believe in Ayurveda. Otherwise keep saying whatever u or I want to say, it will not become science.
So 5000 year ago people know more about human body and medicine more than today's doctors ?
@@humanbeing4076It is not that Ayurveda is only 5000 years old. Ayurveda has been providing medical treatment since 5000 years. There have been a lot of changes in it according to time. A lot of research is being done in it continuously, so you cannot say that Ayurveda is only 5000 years old. you are not an expert in this, so you should not say such things. you people after trialing on 100-200 people, new drugs are brought in the market and then after a few months or years, many of their side effects are seen and people like you to favor them, then there is no problem.
Tell them to debate with Dr. BM hegde❤
that's right, Dr BM Hegde should be on the podcasts too.
😂😂😂 kya baat karty ho.... bhaag jayega ye kapdey khol dengy Dr. HEGDE
BM Hegde is a joker
@@AP-eb8hd lol...u sound like a kid who says.. Jo pehly bolta hai wohi Hota Hai
@@abhyudayas2342BM hegde is a joker bro don't listen him .
Unfortunately in India many Doctors of modern medicine prescribe ayurvedic liquids & tablets in cases of hepatitis A.
That is very unfortunate. Liv 52 is one common medicine given even by doctors for any liver ailment. There is zero evidence of it being beneficial.
They are paid by companies to prescribe those.
They are doing right. Allopathy is joke.
@@DhirenVyas261 allopathy is evidence based .
Ayurved is not something came out from the thin air. Its already used and prooved. the only problem it faces today is medical mafia companies. which never let them enter in market easily as they have already billions of dollars invested in. also, we should also not forget that the Ayurved scriptures we have today is less compare to what we had 1000 years back. becuase in Takshashilaa and other universities tons of our books are being burnt for months by invaders. @vivekc2471 @@vivekc2471
The people who don't know about Ayurveda, then they don't have any right to talk on other pathy.
What did you think is the reason why ayurveda is not allowed to be practiced in developed countries? Unlike Yoga, why did ayurveda treatment is not common in western countries
Because people are in a hurry Paisa feka thik ho gaya that's why pharmacy is looting people .
In a critical situation it's good but to not get critical is ayurveda.
@@abhisheknair3667You are wrongful, West has also started importing Ayurvedic medicine, Check the data on Ayurvedinc product export to developed countries
Ayurveda should test their medicine.
@ankitjain3760, I have questions
why female gives birth to baby, why at morning we are enough energetic, why plant comes out from seed, why summer exhausting , why winter is pleasuring??
most of us know that the answer is natural rules
we can't deny it
On the same background all the fundamental of Ayurveda are based.
language/terminology of Ayurveda is different but something which not understand by someone that doesn't mean it is wrong.
I think I tried my best to explain.
and it should elaborate publicly so that everyone will understand
सांड ज्यादा खायेगा तो मरेगा ही इसमें औषधि का क्या दोष ,
पधारो कभी हवेली पर हम दिखाते हैं आयुर्वेद का दम 😅
Kya baat hai sir vaah confidence ho to aisa
Glad to see so many comments taking a stand for Ayurved & against spreading the misconceptions against it
ayurveda is a fraud lol
Rajiv Dixit told to apply morning saliva in eyes to improve eyesight !
Rightly said 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
I was taking citrizine to cure cold, now i use cow ghee. It works fantastic.
I got air876 in jee advanced just coz I drank cow shit shake 1 day before exam
@@DatanFactMatters hope you have seen ads about allergy rakshak. It works for me. I don’t mind your sarcasm, may be your ignorance is speaking.
@@ArjunA-ln3ov amazing, good for you.
it is a great lubricant.
Cetirizine is an amtihistaminic drug .. allergic rhinitis or cold will go away without any drug itself .. it has a duration ...cow ghee does NOTHING
things talking about ayurveda by him all wrong
He said the formulations in our texts ( i m mbbs doctor from India so i say that ayurvedic textss are our texts) are not time tested not evidence based , he don't even know there are main 3 branches of ayurvedic treatment modalities Charak , sushrut and Vagbhat , all three have criticised same plants in different ways still reclaim each other views at some places they agree with each other and some places contradict ... What is this? Is it not use by different practitoner? The person is highly unscientific as he comments without knowledge
Of course you are an MBBS doctor with the picture of Charaka as your DP 😂😂
These arguments are not scientific. In literature or archeology, these kinds of arguments may work, but you have to conduct proper studies and prove the efficacy. It's a much better form of evidence. But we don't see the level of studies and trials conducted in the field of ayurveda.
You are an MBBS and I am the President of India.
@rendezvous59 lmaoo thats chanakya💀
So not scientific just faith based.
Please do podcast with B.M Hegde, a padmabhushan awardee, and talk about ayurveda
He must be in the podcast
yes this has to happen.
The popular pseudoscience guy.
@@samgarg5228 says the circumcised brains
@@venki89 😂😂Damn!! I had to search for this word.
If you can sir please do a podcast with Dr. Vasant Ladji who is the individual who brought Ayurveda to the western world and was Dr. Robert Svobodas teacher and travels to India from July to December 🙏
PM Modi, a while back at an AYUSH summit, mentioned how ex-Kenyan PM’s daughter regained her lost eyesight after ayurvedic treatment. This is an influential family with access to the best medical care available in the world. The daughter who lost her eyesight because of optic nerve atrophy had tried every other treatment under the sun before finally resorting to Ayurveda. The daughter, Rosemary Odinga said “My father met the PM and was full of praise for the traditional Ayurvedic system that has helped me. He also discussed bringing traditional medicines to Africa.” There are hundreds of such testimonials. I will not write off Ayurveda just because it's known as pseudo-science. It needs revival and of course a lot of clinical trials etc. but it will get there.
She was treated at sreedhareeyam Kerala. Its true.
@@divyaharidasmenon treat all other blinds too. nonsense.
Blindness rate: 👇🏿 100% 😂😂
Yeah, now why won't a politician lie, right??
See ..,this trying Ayurveda after everything... can be looked in 2 ways.. The doc explains it.
Am an Ayurvedic doctor practicing at chennai.
Ask him to send autoimmune disease like RA etc
End stage lung disease or whatever respiratory tract diseases including asthma , TB.
It's a challenge to u sir...will prove u wrong by reversing and curing the disease permanently so that they don't have to continue even Ayurvedic medicine lifelong.
People need every system of medicine including allopathy and Indian system of medicine. It will be opted accordingly.
Dr.Jayhidad where are u practicing?
If u have guts come to Chennai. Everything is documented and u can talk to my patients.
Use the smiley to u. In future if u have chronic liver disease . Get treated from me.
@@banutej3437madam is there any medicine in Ayurveda for CKD, please guide
So, what you're saying is, you can cure any form of autoimmune disease and so on? Why haven't you been given the Nobel Prize for medicine yet?
@@banutej3437why can’t you just do a clinical trial?? It will be huge invention if you do so. And it will be the modern medicine (evidence based medicine) to accept you first.
There should be a lawsuit against him for defaming a system of medicine and deliberately spreading misinformation to millions of viewers. He has no rights to speak on something he doesn't know.
He gives scientific proof for everything. Why don't you file a lawsuit with scientific proof
@@ravichandranv3426 the research he's referring to clearly says that the medicine was taken without a doctor's supervision and in excess quantity. In excess dosage any medicine can cause toxicity.
U do it then
@@rajak6226 he would have already done it if he was a lawyer. Why are you getting offended?
Truth hurts. Especially when it goes against your beliefs. But stay honest. Seek the truth. Even if it's inconvenient. And welcome to science.
All Ayurveda supporters having meltdown but none of them giving a single research paper 😂
What kind of proof do you seek could elaborate ?
@@Rationalist_Thinker"research paper", read his comment again
@@hashvindsivakumar3479 Are you out of your mind I have seen his comment, I ask what kind of research paper they want could they please elaborate ?
@@Rationalist_Thinker since you’re the one TRIGGERED 😂. You show me research papers of Ayurvedha supremacy
Research vo kya hoti hain.... AY doctor😂
The liver is the mula(root) off the the rakta vaha srotas(blood carrying channels) and any herb that is consumed has to get processed by the liver before entering into the bloodstream to be sent to the deeper tissues. An herb like Ashwaganda which is a heavy heating and unctuous herb that should be used with caution and is even contraindicated in conditions where many toxins(āma) are present in the body(which would automatically mean the liver is a bit taxed) coupling that with the amount of self prescribed Ashwaganda usage due to its effect on building muscle and reproductive tissue people have been taking very large dosages to try to “maximize” its effectiveness. Ayurveda says each and every substance can be medicine or Can ve poison and it entirely depending upon for whom, how much and when. That goes not only for herbs but any substance. This is another reason it’s extremely important to not self prescribe if in-depth insight into the action of these powerful herbs is not understood and why if one is wanting to consume natural medicine like herbs, to consult an Ayurvedic Vaidya(Doctor)
This guy is so wrong . That's so not what ayurveda says 👽👽 who told him ki there is only jaundice and not root cause ? Ayurveda ka treatment is only based on root caus eof the disease . Please bring people who have studied and not speaking what they heard on whatsapp and social media. Bruh this is so lame
We can get so many research articles on paracetamol causing liver toxicity. Does that mean paracetamol shouldn't be prescribed? Does that make modern medicine a pseudoscience?
Everywhere it's the dosage. It's that easy
Yes. That's why modern medicine doctors are taught about the side effects. And that's why these substances are controlled and only on prescription. That's why they are tested. And only when the risk to reward makes sense they are prescribed or approved. Nothing like this in ayurveda.
You know paracetamol causes toxicity if taken in higher dosage. You can literally search the dosage of paracetamol up and you will get the prescribed doses on the web, and also simple research articles. This level of evidence is not present in ayurveda. And this level of clarity of what happens if you take what isn't present.
In those same research papers there is mentioned the safe dose of paracetamol. It's 3 to 4 gms per day is safe. One can take it for few weeks. But long use and overdose can have rick of liver toxicity. That's why one needs doctors advice and priscription for any drug to use it safely and avoid it's side effects.
bhai shilajit kha kha ke tera dimag gobar ho gya hai kya? paracetamol aur dusre drugs mein likh hua hota ki doctor se puch ke khana koi chocolate nhi hai jab bhi man kare kha le. ye sab well researched hote hain but these herbs have so low effects. thats why they dont work but your brain thinks its working. placebo effect.
baat maan lo nhi toh in scam mein pad kisi family member ko kho doge.
Ranveer can u stop these interviews which give complete wrong info, and also degrading indian culture?
Ayurveda IS a scam. I tried many medicines all FAILLLLL
Criticizing sati is also degrading Indian culture ?
Criticizing circumcision is degrading Abrahamic religions ?
BS
We need more interviews like this
Why did the doctor refuse to admit he believes in God? Because he said, "Show me the evidence first!"
yes show the evidence then we'll believe
Life me ek baar down fall aane do saara science pichhe se nikal jayega aur muh se raam ka naam hi niklega 🤣
@@yogeshb4921gobar health benefits proof
Kudos to you Ranveer for taking your stand on Ayurveda, its not urine according to what the modern science or like this doctor claims. These ancient texts have a wealth of knowledge but due to certain time periods in medical history they have been erased and right now there is a need of revival, as the core principle of Ayurveda has always been - | िक्षालनापदद िङकस्य दूरादस्पशवनं वरम ्। | Prevention is better than cure |
@@DatanFactMattersthis itself show you don't understand anything 😂 5 bhootas doesn't mean it's literally those 5 elements in modern languages just understand it using its somethings like fluid, heat, solids/ mass, gas and volume.
This is concept which is used for classification.
It's just you Don't have much scientific knowledge and understanding of language to understand what they are trying to convey.
@@DatanFactMatters you just changed whole context and brought chemistry here and wrote big para of n0ns€nse 😂
Do you understand what and how these categorization is used it's used in Ayurveda to categories a problem ?
It's not chemistry but way used to classify problems like Pit, Vaat, Kapha, etc...this clearly shows you haven't read or know anything about Ayurveda
For example if you have acidity they classify problem as problem due Pitta ie unbalanced Fluid and Heat combination...it's a vast concept.
Leave that for second, have you ever done Anulom Vilom what we use term for Each nostril...sun and moon now is that unscientific too because sun and moon are in space ? 😂
If you haven't read about it, have no science background to understand concepts, why are you try to act rational... first get basic understanding of science and language 🌚
@@DatanFactMatters I am not sure if my comments (just above this) is visible to you as I can just see 3 comments till now, but to add (if you can see) because you haven't read Ayurveda (out of curiosity like I did) you don't know what those 5 elements signifies and is concept used to classify problem. And thus you attached those terms with states of Matter and trying to act like some scholar. ..I mean I understand you just have read science till 10th but we are student of science and have been doing this our whole life and consider what you have written as something obvious so calm down kid. If you have to come up with an argument atleast know basic of those stuff too.
Saying Heat is not state of matter volume actually It's Void not volume (error) but still is not state of Matter...like dude everyone know this. It's funny you wrote this 😂😂
Even in Science their are concepts, hypothesis etc used to prove certain points and is considered base of any scientific theory or observation. It's quiet common.
There is big difference between principle/philosophy VS medicine, Ayurveda definitely good for life principle or philosophy that could actually motivate them for living healthy life or atleast lead them for that but as medicine INDIANS should not risk their life just for the sake of proving it right. Remember a bad Modern medicine practitioners doesn't mean Modern medicine is not good. Ayurveda text AS medicine is written at time when they had nothing byt today you have every information why wasting that amount of money or resources on it just to prove it correct, instead use that money to lead those textual observations into knowing what we should not continue anymore be it from ayurveda or modern medicine, I mean are actually giving priority to those practice which were written at time of lack of info inside of your body...
Not only that. allopathic medicine companies are also scammers. they literally learn from Ayurveda and use the same thing in their medicines with other cheap drugs. While in Ayurvedic medicines we have natural substance only. People dont know that there are many medicines in the market who uses camel urine and cow urine in different medicines. but the problem of today's hindu is, they want to defame their own legacy. Ironic.
Ayurveda does not treat the symptom or the disease, it treats the person as a whole.
Good luck curing cancer with it
Repeat a lie for 1000 times and it won't become a fact.
@@akashaym9271But alpathy always works in a cost 🤡
No ayurveda doesn't treats everybody same. Even the patients with same diseases say for example Hepatitis B, will not be treated same. Treatment protocol in ayurveda differs with Person to person, disease causation etc. A same disease may be caused with different reasons in two different person so treatment protocols will be different.
- Registered Ayurveda Practitioner
Btw, where did you learn that a virus can cause a liver disease? Ancient texts?
Can you give a list of causes that can cause jaundice with reference from ancient books?
@Dr. Abby Philips and @Ranveer Allahbadia... Anyone who hasnt heard of Liv52 must live under a rock!
Homeopathy, Ayurveda Supporters hit like 🙌
What a attitude 😂
Let him know fully about his own profession before commenting on ayurveda.
Can alopathy stop death.
From someone who has 5 doctors in my close family
Please tell him i was cured of a autoimmune condition which on of the best endocrinologist in south India couldn't cure.
FDA in America is hugely influenced by lobby groups .
Your personal experiences or claims are not accepted by the scientific methodology. It needs evidence.
@@A4Aqua Evidence twisted by pharma industry 😂
@@A4Aqua Just google research articles on ayurveda drugs for autoimmunity. You'll find plenty of published articles.
Ah another ayurveda apologist using the term "allopathy" without knowing what it means lol
@@praveenhegde8107just swore man you will never get treated by any discovery/invention made by non Hindu or non Indian traditional medicine (here modern medicine) !!!
This guy is a freaking genius, he will be studied in next decades for debunking myths of Ayurveda.
😂😂😂
Bro do your own research have you read anything 😂😂
His father is involved in illegal organ transplant which HC puts a stay(ofcourse lobbying)and he works in same hospital shame on beer biceps for bringing such 😢😢
Funny comment section:😂😂😂
They think that clinical trials and EVIDENCE is biased wow!!!!
What a cult audience you've created ranveer hat's off
Meanwhile lockdown wasn't open before vaccination
Even though coronil was there😂
And yes he studied the books and debunked many of them (source : published journals & research papers) of ayurvedic methods and bhms books
He studied books😂 just by learning the words vata pitta kapha no-one becomes an expert in ayurveda. The same giloy research that he is half quoting mentioned that the patient took it without any consultation and in excess dosage. Any drug would have toxicity in that case.
Ayurveda is not just coronil or any particular brand. Just google the scientific research articles on ayurveda. You'll find plenty of published papers.
I got some auto immune condition due to modern anti biotics usage And allopathy doctors gave some chemo medications and steroids for the condition. Got so many side effects post the medication. Now I am healing with ayurveda. This guy has very less knowledge on ayurveda and talking about the side effects. Many people are consuming many ayurvedic drugs over the counter and without any prescription from ayurvedic doctor. Any medicine will be toxic if used too much.
Hello how are you?
Everyone should listen to what this Dr is saying . Keep out your emotions and listen it’s a matter of life and death for you and your parents.
Ayurveda has worked for our family for generations. It’s going nowhere.
I listen and it’s not new for me, it’s more like a amateur lesson but is only for the public.
I don’t know if someone can ask or answer a few questions? I’m trying to get some information but ..
1. Why a new born child is getting in the first 24h a hepatitis B vaccine if he doesn’t have an immune system yet?
2. Why in the modern new medicine is not being used “unknown “ instead of the term “idiopathic “?
3.Why PCR testing by amplification x200 isn’t considered pseudo testing for the same reasons why homeopathy is considered only placebo/nocebo ?
4. The mental health care diagnostic and treatment for patients is based only by Symptoms not even measurable Signs? Is a pseudoscience? Because don’t respect the 4 postulates of nothing nobody none….
5. I’m trying not to think of something called impossible to get a patent for natural molecules but Synthesize the structure of stuff found in nature can be done?
6. In medicine one rule is: nothing is 100% safe, dose not mean anything?
7. Talidomida?
8.AZT?
What do you mean to say?@@MariaMyself
Mate, it was good for it's time. Now if you say it is better or even equal to tried and tested drugs then you are completely wrong. It was advance for it's time but not now.@@RojaJaneman
@DakshtheGOAT tested from Thousand of years , so in some cases if it is very beneficial u must use it
For those who are saying he hasn't studied ayurveda ....
Should checkout the research papers and journals.....
Just by having a few translated English textbooks of BAMS at home doesn't make him a know it all in ayurveda. Just like having a modern textbook of medicine at home and reading a few pages don't make us physicians.
@@Hope-ml5nudo you know how hard it is to make research papers on mdical related stuff? Its not like doing an SA for exam. You have to dedicate a big part of your life into it.
First of all kudos to Ranveer 👏👏 for watering down some of the outrageous comments made by this doc. The doc is obviously very ignorant of true Ayurvedic principles and wisdom based on basic principles of the Cosmos. You cannot learn about Ayurveda from books that you have acquired. That’s like saying , “I have all the medical books and have read them and I know all about modern medicine.”
Ayurveda is personalized medicine based on the premise that every individual is a unique body type, prakruti and so many factors like diet, lifestyle including sleep, stress etc, emotional health, seasons, the place you live and stage of life all have an impact on our health. It is not just a disease curing science but preventing it in the first place. While Modern medicine is disease focused in treatment, Ayurveda is a holistic medicine treating the whole person body, mind and spirit.
Jaundice is a modern term for a disease. Ayurveda does not treat diseases but imbalance in the body. These imbalances start manifesting way before it gets the modern name. By the time a person comes to a doctor, it has already gone through the first 3 to 4 stages described in Ayurveda. I can go on and on.
Herbs are not the first course of treatment with true Ayurvedic approach. You always work on the client’s diet and lifestyle to weed out the causative factors before you think about herbal Rx. Unfortunately in the modern times the practitioners in India have adopted the modern medicine way:
1. By starting with herbs which is not the ayurvedic way. Maybe business?
2. Secondly the patient/client being used to taking meds to help and not taking charge of their own health, feel satisfied only when they get some medication.
3. Third factor is many people hear from friends and family and abuse these supplements without understanding what they need.
Ashwagandha is very heating and can cause liver damage taken by the wrong person, like a Pitta person.
All of this is because of how Modern medicine has caused a shift in our thinking.
Anyway like Ranveer said please have Dr.Robert Svoboda or David Frawley, westerners who have adapted this to come forward and explain it. I have studied in the US from third generation Vaidya and having begun as a dietitian in modern medicine over 30 years ago, adding Ayurveda 10 years ago to my tool box has given me more success with health and healing. My husband is a kidney doctor as well so I would never knock modern science. There is value in both systems but for the chronic illnesses we face today which are primarily lifestyle diseases, integrative Ayurveda in practice is a great boon.🙏🏻
Last comment, this is from our vedic scriptures, so wonder if this doctor maybe biased because of that? Something to ponder about. 🤔
Firstly, it is crucial to acknowledge that every system of medicine has its strengths and limitations. Ayurveda, a traditional Indian system, is undoubtedly rich in its holistic approach to health. However, it is essential to avoid idealizing it and recognize that, like any system, it has evolved over time, and its principles may be interpreted differently.
The assertion that one cannot truly understand Ayurveda through acquired books is questionable. While hands-on experience and guidance from knowledgeable practitioners are undoubtedly valuable, dismissing the significance of written knowledge seems overly restrictive. Modern medicine heavily relies on research, textbooks, and accumulated knowledge for its advancements.
Furthermore, the comparison between Ayurveda and modern medicine oversimplifies the complexity of healthcare. Modern medicine is continually evolving, incorporating aspects of personalized medicine, genomics, and lifestyle interventions. It is not merely disease-focused but increasingly embraces preventive measures and considers individual variations.
Lastly, insinuating bias in the doctor's perspective based on Vedic scriptures raises questions about objectivity. In the pursuit of understanding and improving healthcare, i think it is crucial to approach discussions with an open mind and avoid attributing motivations to individuals based on their background or beliefs.
@@debasmithmishra7871 thanks for your detailed response to my comment. As I mentioned in my response if you read correctly, I believe in integrating both systems for diet and lifestyle and our body can heal itself given the right conditions. I have a lot of doctors in my family including my husband and daughter. I am not idealizing Ayurveda but pointing out the tremendous value it holds for our modern lifestyle diseases.
Unfortunately Modern medicine is very much a pill pushing system today, not blaming the doctors because that is the training and most doctors don’t have the time for much more than that. Research is also focused on pharmaceuticals and can be biased. Ayurveda in India is also being practiced like modern medicine giving a ton of herbal supplements which I have explained in detail and that is not true Ayurveda.
Having studied Ayurveda in the last several years has opened my eyes to things that I never got out of Modern medicine. I have applied it to my own life and it has made a tremendous difference. It has made a great impact on my patients as well. So unless you have actually practiced it, there is no way for you to know. Reading books is just intellectual exercise. Enough to pick up some points to speak against it like this doctor has done. 🙏🏻
Yes questioning if there is bias based on Vedic scriptures is not too far off since many of this knowledge which was practiced in ancient times and woven into our culture was systematically destroyed by the Britishers who invaded India to introduce their brand of medicine. Again not knocking modern medicine, just pointing out that bias is possible for self preservation.
Anyway there is no reason to discuss further. I have clearly mentioned my credentials. I am curious to know yours if you are willing to share. Thank you!
I do think, as Ranveer mentioned he needs to bring in an Ayurvedic expert, who understands the ancient teachings correctly to have a discussion. Dr.Lad brought Ayurveda to America over 50 years ago. Maharishi Mahesh Yogi brought it in the 70s. Yoga has been pulled out as a separate system but both are based on the same philosophy. These things will not be shining in the West unless they have value.
@@vpknutrition-integrativehealth Gobar vs medicine.... medicine wins
Paracetamol, Ibuprofen is very good for liver.🙏
mat le phir... go eat some plants. and pray.
Business comes first and then treatment in today's medical world.
Beautiful comment 😂
What's funny is that none of the ayurveda experts who comment here have any actual scientific evidence to deny his claims other than anecdotes 😄
Sir please can you go search about clinical trials of Ayurveda in Google scholar research gate. Both null hypothesis and alternate hypothesis accepted results can be seen published. Try to research before commenting.
All anecdotal evidences
Science isn't trustworthy. We have seen the scientists flip flop over COVID. We have seen the science promote the big bang theory, which is just as atrocious as the Genesis creation story. The universe is a steady state and science denies that and chooses to believe their own creation story or version of it. Also ayurveda has been used for thousands of years and has worked for friends and family of mine. I'd trust personal experience over a piece of paper or internet study telling me what to believe.
The "trust the science" youtube community guidelines keep deleting my comments, but the empirical evidence has been inaccurate many times. They have been inaccurate on the pandemic, they have promoted the big bang theory which is their own creation belief, they have denied that the universe is a steady state, in favor of their own big bang narrative. I would trust personal experience from several family, friends, and loved ones over a piece of paper or internet study telling me what is right
The empirical evidence has been inaccurate many times. They have been inaccurate on the pandemic, they have promoted the big bang theory which is their own creation belief, they have denied that the universe is a steady state, in favor of their own big bang narrative. I would trust personal experience from several family, friends, and loved ones over a piece of paper or internet study telling me what is right
You both should use ashwagandha 😂😂it has more number of benifits than your number of podcasts these people think they can question nature .... according to them lab made medicines are not harmful but medicinal herbs are don't forget you are also a part of nature 😂😂😂 literally fools who thinks they are intellectuals...
@Dr.JayHidad kuch bhi nhi joh khane layak hai nature se woh ..jinko heal karne ke properties hai woh .. differentiate karne ke liye hi toh yeh padhayi hai
@@ayurmedico-rl3sgmodern medicine is better than cow dung
He needs security Coz half of the ppl watching him speak already they are boiling up.
People are asking for fair debate with an actual ayurveda vaidya who has an actual degree in it. This shows that the viewers are not stupid to accept everything anymore.
you assume that all listeners are stupid and becoming angry. No. Viewers are open minded, they want a proper non biased podcast.
@@Immortal_lion99Let us be open minded if Harry Potter is real or not. Open minded means being open to all scientific possibilities, not calling pseudoscience as science. The misuse of the word "open minded" is a tale of its own to justify all ultra pseudo scientific views.
This person is talking nonsense about Ayurveda? Yes disappointed with this content @TRS
Docs take on Ayurveda is too harsh, almost negative, though he put it nicely. But he is right on few foundational thing, just because something written and practiced from thousands of years doesn't make it good. Humans should always check, analyze, experiment and improve
Host him in front of ayurvedic doctor then he will answer all his questions he did not know anything about ayurveda he has no right to tell anything about other pathy
Ayurveda doctors will not discount modern medicine. However Modern Medicine cannot coexist with Ayurveda. Not everything can be measured either. Energy is one example, if someone says I feel tired can you measure the energy that that person needs?
Conversely when some says Thyroid levels is in the normal range, does that mean it's functioning correctly for that specific person -- even though the body has symptoms, such as fatigue and insomnia? No, THEIR body needs are different.
We can clearly see modern medine has holes in analysis.
Analysis is not exclusive for modern medicine either. The depth of analysis can be done for Chinese, South American and Indian medicine as well.
Poor form from the doctor here, highly biased when he says even after two decades Ayurveda reasearch cannot change.
Ranveer talks about keeping an open mind but most his veiwers doesnt have sinlge ounce of rational thinking or open mindness
Respected dr you can not say that ayurvedic medicine is not tested ..since it has been used from ages and ages as you say.. it has been tested on millions of populations .. Modern medication gets approval on the basis of selected populations in phase 3 studies right? still you dare to say it is validated..
We have also pathophysiology
Hetus..root causes..
You didn't study ayurved so you don't know about that..
Except you.
😂
Then why do u watch
What is open mind according to you? Is it accepting anything?
He is commenting on something which he doesn’t know. He should have thorough knowledge of Ayurveda before commenting.
We do respect both the Mediceans.
but it looks like you dont respect a dictionary. you should.
All the podcast skills of Ranveer are in full flow here😊
His father is involved in illegal organ transplant which HC puts a stay(ofcourse lobbying)and he works in same hospital shame on beer biceps for bringing such people
I feel Ranveer, you are not being open to new perspectives. Don't get me wrong, but this podcast was very uncomfortable to watch as i felt the guest was being disrespected by turning it into a debate, also pointing out to him that you want more people who can defend ayurveda.
I was your follower before few years, but then you started inclining towards a lot of unscientific things which being a science student doesn't resonate with me. I belive one should be open to new perspectives if they are to hold podcasts with people in various fields otherwise this gives an impression that you want to defend the opinions that are opposite to yours.
I hope you understand that am not criticizing for the sake of it, i genuinely feel that the content you put forward is more inclined towards unscientific things mostly. Or at least that's what the youtube shows me, based on which the viewer creats an image of you.
Also after reading the comments, i do understand why you make the context you make, maybe thats what a set of people want to see. In that case, everything does make sense. Though its very sad to see people having closed minds in the comments aswell.
Sorry Ranvir! This person does not know what he is talking about! Ayurveda is the alternative medicine which always treats the root cause and not symptoms!
Hahhah ur so funny
I am talking from
My experience of being a 70 year old woman from Kerala a centre for ayurvedam ! Fully healthy and active all due to regular Ayurvedic interventions. Medicine has its own blessings like surgery and radiation etc and I believe each form of medicine has its own good and not good. Nothing is all bad and all good.
Right
I am ayurvedic student we study both modern medicine as well ayurveda please invite Dr ravishankar polisetty a cardiac surgeon who studied both science but practice ayurveda he will shut his mouth
I took Arjunaristha for heart palpitations issues and it got me free from my issues. So what do you say on this?
The new age medicines are always good to cure, but Ayurveda is more from a preventive perspective, and it works if someone follows the lifestyle.
I already knew they are now scared of ayurved doctor so no option left then claiming it to be pseudoscience 😂
The reason modern doctors don't recommend ayurvedic medicine is
They don't get commission to prescribe ayurvedic medicine
The reason no clinical trials were conducted on ayurvedic medicine is because it couldn't be patented if is already in public domain
Clinical trials are for patenting the medicine
You don't understand clinical trials or evidence based medicine, do you?
@@yoyodude-aoe2726aagye bhokne chamche 😂😂
@@yoyodude-aoe2726the issue is that what's medicine for one need not be for another. In Ayurveda, the treatment goes like this : lifestyle, food, and only at the end, medicine. For the same symptoms, different lifestyle/food changes may be advised. Later, if that doesn't help, even medicines prescribed may not be the same.
@@sreerajb2423i would suggest you to watch the video again because you have not understood most of the points he has mentioned.
@@sujithkvarghese5616 I did watch the video. He has claimed that Ayurveda is based on beliefs that are 3000 years old that being applied in the modern age without any clinical backing and reproduceability. According to him, the only useful aspect of Ayurveda is its accumulated knowledge of herbs. That's some of the dumbest stuff I have heard. Anybody who has undergone proper Ayurvedic treatment would know that it's not just a system based on beliefs. It's based on an intrinsic observation and knowledge of the body which may not be measured by the means we have now.
Modern medications are laboratory borne, thus they be tried and tested in labs. Ayurveda was DISCOVERED in तूरीय अवस्था (meditative state) so it CAN BE EVALUATED THERE!
Most of the comments are from AYUSH practitioner or from their supporters. Anyone who thinks critically please don't go with the flow that since majority are supporting ayurveda so ayurveda is correct. If you have any doubt, you can reply this comment.
It's actually crazy the amount of people that think LiverDoc is wrong.
Do Video with Ayurveda Doctor to justify the science, a person who didn't learn Ayurved, then how can any one talk on the science?
Dude read about him first. He works with ex ayurvedic doctors, who assist him in debunking the mysts of a pseudo science.
you did not understand english na.. hahahahah no wonder you are talking about something which is already covered in the video. shame shame.
This doctor had little knowledge about ayurvedic medicine.Little knowledge is very dangerous.
This doctor receives grants from US-based Dinesh Thakur who has been suspected of destroying Indian medicines and pharmaceutical industry for and on behalf of US pharma.
Ayurved is evidence-based.
Common Indians use it daily and have received positive results.
make a decision brother only use ayurveda now. never go to modern medicine for anything... come on you can do it..
Can you provide details of it ?
Any proofs for his US grants
Can you cite research papers?
Misinformation, this is not right thing about Ayurveda, don't say false about Ayurveda
He needs to be more open minded for Ayurveda. In west people are going more toward Ayurveda. He needs to study first before give his opinion.
West is your authority
I.e
Statement is an appeal to authority
This man is confused, he tells Ayurveda is pseudoscience and later on tells plants have treating chemicals
Stop spreading such messages to society... otherwise we All need to further action on your channel
Almost 90% ppl in comment section is not convinced with this man.
This person even dont know the,what ayurveda is and give lecture about pseudoscience,on what logic he said this?🙄
He tell about Evidence base.medicine.
Is any evidence what he said?
8:00 what about old age asthma 😂
We have 4 veda, Rigveda,Samveda,Atharv veda,Yajurveda and Ayurved is Upved of Atharv veda.Ayurved is Ancient Scietific treatment...
There he said that when they do studies they extract the particular active principle or constituent to study its effects , what people don't understand is that we give ayurvedic drug as a whole , its never just active principle , as a whole that drug has less potency and less side effects !! Its all about creating balance ..
People becoming expert of ayurvedia in comments...making claims ...roted brains 😂😂😂
This physician has no proper training in Aayurveda and has a very strong and negative belief in the ancient Ayurvedic healing. This person should not be given a big platform like this to spread his personal propaganda against Aayurveda. You need to have an authority over the subject before you could spread your misinformation
Ayurveda is a bullock cart. Modern medicine is a Ferrari car. It's as simple as that
Do you need to have an authority on homoeopathy or Ayurveda to say that it is a scam? If the basic propositions of these are all lies and non-sense, it needs only common sense to know these are scams.
Well he did have a bachelor and masters in medical science and have a PhD and with multiple research papers? You arent the brightest in your family arent you
@@buddybrick that’s correct. This is the reason I did not doubt his medical knowledge of allopathic science. But he has no degree in Ayurvedic science, nor he has published any research paper, but still has a strong opinion which he is spreading. That should not happen. 😳
Observation: when a person mentions out of the world substance to cure something or help us with something to ranveer,he immediately agrees and puts his out of the world beliefs to make it appealing to the audience and contrary when a person with substantial evidence objects the same ,he tries his level best to take it to the direction where he tries concluding that it can be proven wrong with this or that or other wordly possibilities.
P:s - its fine as the person with hard evidence answers his questions which further solidifies our belief in the evidence based approach.
What I hate about these doctors are their Know All attitude. I agree there are bad apples in the system who have brought disrepute to holistic medicine practice, but to conclude that ancient systems are not scientific is absurd. Science itself is evolving and many reputed so called scientific theories are getting debunked every day. When he himself concludes researches are not done then how can he claim Ayurveda does not work.
If he has the guts he should debate with Dr B M Hegde who is a medical practitioner and professor and I request Ranveer to facilitate this discussion
If you have not studied ayurveda, you don't have any right to utter a single word against ayurveda.
This dr is talking absolutely wrong.
He doesn't have any right to talk against Ayurved. Has he taken any degree of Ayurved?? Answer is No. So stop talking anti Ayurved, learn and experience Ayurved then you have the right to talk
He said, he has done research on ayurveda to prove it's a scam.
Fasting/Naturopathy > Ayurveda > Homeopathy > Jhaad Fook > Placebo > Bangaali Baaba > Allopathy
Sahi hai bhai cancer hone pe ayurvedic medicine Lena
About modern medicines, you know around 1940s USA doctors used to proscribe cigarrates as a medicine ? this went on for 20-30 years. later they found found the side effects. this is same for Allopahy medicines. look at cancer medicines, patients die because of side effects of medicines before even cancer could kill them.
"In this case you have to give this only" seriously??
No, in many places in samhita, acharya has said to use own intelligence of a doctor. He has just given चिकित्सा सूत्र which is the key to treatments. NOWHERE ACHARYA HAS SAID THAT IN THIS CASE GIVE THIS ONLY.
I think sir has not heard about'nidhana parivarjana' which is removing the root cause actually in ayurveda.
There is no such word in allopathy .
Allopathic doctors are treating by symptomatically not ayurveda vaidyas .
Ayurveda is scientifically proven research based medicine .
Ayurveda Acharyas were researched and documebted the knowledge in samhita .you should know about that.
hope you got your ayurvedic covid vaccine.
😂
Your argument is easily debunked by the mere existence of modern vaccines, anti-biotics and anti-fungal medicines. All of them treat the root cause not the symptoms.
Root cause? When did ayurveda removed any root cause?
@@buddybrickAlways....
This doctor is well spoken and brave to enter the pseudoscience world of UA-camrs. Some Indians want Ayurveda to be considered science because of pride in their history. I understand that. But the best way to show it is real science is to run Ayurvedic claims through the scientific method (randomized clinical trials, double blind studies). Like many other traditional healing systems, Ayurveda was created at a time when there was no knowledge of the germ theory of disease, advanced chemistry, biochemistry or access to the tools that we have today to understand what's occurring in the human body. Any system that claims to know everything from thousands of years ago and doesn't need to change based on new scientific evidence is not falsifiable and cannot be trusted.
12:25 Even Finisteride cause such problems and other modern medicines too.
All medicines cause problems if taken unnecessary. Doctors know this. Scientists know this. That's why they are prescription drugs. That's why they are controlled substances. That's why they research the side effects. That's why they take a calculated risk to reward guess when they prescribe you medicines. The reward is you'll be free from disease. The risk is you MIGHT get a side effect. That's why they test it on hundreds of people to find out who's at risk. And they won't prescribe you that drug if you're one of the high risk ones. That's why the doctor asks you about your preexisting conditions even if it's not directly related to your current condition.
Does ayurveda do any of this ? No. Does it learn anything new ? No. You think people who wrote it knew EVERYTHING and it NEVER needs to update ? How ignorant. How stupid.
But it is advertised as side effects on contrary Ayurveda advertises itself as no side effects
How to get convinced that .. Ancient texts of Ayurveda got the content without research and scientific structure ? 🤔 Because it’s 3000+ years ago and we can’t speak to those people ?
Who is this person on social platform??? And why you taking interview of him..
Because ayurveda is not evidence based medicine
This man is hallucination for the positive believers of Ayurveda
You need to up your game. I will continue to support you Ranveer, till you get to a stage where you can bring more prominent medical professionals on your show. Especially, tbose who expose the hypocrisy of modern medicine, their associations and their practitioners. Bring Dr. David Frawley, Dr. Vasant Lad, Dr. B. M. Hegde, and the likes of Dr. John McDougall on your show please! The kind of misinformation being spread in this particular episode is just plain scary. Can you even fathom the kind of damage modern medicine aka allopathy can cause? And if you manage to bring your viewers to naively believe whats being said here, then you are equally responsible. Please be more circumspect. You owe it to your viewers.
He don't even have basic knowledge of vata pitta and kapha then on what basis he is claiming all this false thing about ayurved
Please explain and educate people like us.
One talks against a system when he has fear inside and he doesn't trust on what he is practicing..this guy can't be called a doctor. Egoistic and talks nonsenses which he doesn't know properly.
⭐ARRANGE DEBATE🚨
Ranveer allahabadhia can actually make dream come true of many Alternative Medicine supporters by arranging a debate with Dr. Abby Philips ! Wether it homeopathy or ayurvedic, as he already said they don't come to him for debate or discussion.
1) he has incomplete knowledge of principals.
2) he is trying to pose things that fit his narrative.
For example: in homoeopathy, if you give diluted doses of causative illness, it will cure the disease.
The entire concept of vaccination is based on this. Live, dead germs in potent form and introduced in body.
He said in ayurveda, there is no concept of causation. There are literally pages written on diabetes and kidney stones about metabolism illness, diet and chemical theory.
He himself is not open to unbiased approa.
Complete nonsense. Administering tiny doses of live virus during inoculation to train the immune system to generate an immune response against the antigen is not the same as administering diluted doses of sugar in the patient.
Just read about chickenpox or something related to pox. Ayurveda cured it by putting potent or weak body into the body to cure it@@DatanFactMatters
Diluting dead germs was so easy then why we need to spend crores of money on developing vaccines!!! 😅
Correct in ayurveda this is a section for a causative factors it's called nidana sthana
Exactly
It’s indeed a scam unless you meet a experienced and knowledgeable doctor
Ayurveda is a science based on practical concepts. Its based on Praman (evidence), Anuman ( Conclusion on proper study), and Scripture (words of authority).
Your own words prove that it is unscientific.
@@rishi7887whose words?
@@AYGAcademy as an Ayurvedic practitioner would you rather believe in the above or the results of a double blinded large scale clinical trial ?
@@rishi7887 I believe in the science of Ayurveda and respect all forms of healing. However, it's disheartening when someone unfairly blames Ayurveda. Ayurveda is a proven science and I believe in promoting it for the better health and well-being of humanity.
Ayurveda was definitely the best medical system for its time. But it's not scientific by any means. It is not based on practical principles rather on untestable principles. For example the very basic tridosha principle, it can't be measured, tested or falsified by any means. It's philosophy not science.
He give wrong information... told him to consult with ayurved physician for any diseases
This doctor needs mental treatment.. he speaks of Ayurveda without knowing anything about it.. I wouldn’t suggest anyone to trust their lives with this pseudo doctor.
He is absolutely right
Finally a sensible man on your podcast for once 😂
Who spreads misinformation with his half-baked knowledge on the subject he's speaking on
@@Hope-ml5nu like 5000 year old foolishness.
Where do your so called "sensible" people go when they don't have answers to questions by patients. When more dangerous viruses will show face, these same doctors will be hiding under their beds without any solutions...that is the time when everyone one remembers "ayurveda" and other streams of healing! Stop being an ostrich that has their head stuck in the ground 😂🙏🏻
Sensible who's anti hindu and defaming ayurveda for his own benefits.
@@Theayurvedadoc you are the fool preying on innocent people and making money. shame shame.
Western medicine could not cure(it kept reoccurring) my Psoriasis but ayurveda cured it completely (did not reoccur). Western medicine/ayurveda (or any other alternate treatment) should not decide for themselves. We as patients should decide which one to choose and when. With my experience only in case of emergency allopathy is a must and all other times ayurveda or alterante way is best.
The how reserved catagory doctors looks like...🥴🥴🥴🥴🥴...........here in my area givt medical college professor took only ayurveda treatment for their family...one old man was cured by our sir with only treatment that mentioned in samhita he was patient of liver cirrhosis and took all allopathy treatment from years and still no results he was cured within 3 months ge touched our sir feet when discharged even he was older than him...other same case in my internship time one Parkinson's disease patient se 70% improvement with in 2 month of treatment ...he was taking allopathic medicine from 14 years...and had no results.....so shut up