Tron (1982) First Time Watching Reaction & Review

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  • @topherwhite370
    @topherwhite370 2 роки тому +18

    Also, “tron” is an actual security protocol in older computer systems. It means “trace on” and allows for detailed tracing of alterations in the file system. Yes, I’m that old.

    • @alexachipman
      @alexachipman  2 роки тому

      Cool tidbit, thank you!

    • @RonMar
      @RonMar 2 роки тому

      TRON is a Microsoft GW BASIC command line debugging tool that printed the executed line number(s) as they ran. TROFF turned it off.
      Not much but much better than nothing.

  • @adamantyr
    @adamantyr Рік тому +1

    This is one of my favorite movies. So much so I wanted to be a "computer programmer" when I grew up. We call it software engineer these days though. :D
    Interesting fact, the chief consultant for the film on computer technology was Dr. Alan Kay of Atari. Bonnie MacBird, the script writer for Tron, met with him and he supplied a lot of the ideas about programs resembling their users and whatnot. In fact, they got on so well together they ended up getting married!

  • @topherwhite370
    @topherwhite370 2 роки тому +7

    My first girlfriend and I (15-ish) fell in love with this film. We used to sign our love notes “take care, program”.

  • @Bipbop66
    @Bipbop66 2 роки тому +1

    This was a movie I could really sink my teeth into as a 14 year old in '82. Bridges is a great actor and has fun with this movie.

  • @Billis75
    @Billis75 2 роки тому +5

    This came out the same year as I got my first computer (Atari 800XL, 64kilobytes of RAM). It's my Star Wars, and the reason I have the career I have in IT.

  • @peterk7931
    @peterk7931 2 роки тому +4

    All of the costume lights were rotoscoped in, but the popular way to do the cosplay now is to make all the lines out of tinted retroreflectors. It doesn't look great in person, but when photographed it looks Amazing.

  • @DavidB-2268
    @DavidB-2268 2 роки тому +6

    Cindy Morgan, who plays Lori, was best known for this, and playing "Lacey Underall", the wild-child rich girl, in Caddyshack. Other than that, she had a 10 episode run on Falcon Crest, and a bunch of guest appearances in various shows through the 80s/90s.

    • @m.e.3862
      @m.e.3862 2 роки тому +1

      She and Bruce boxleitner starred in the short lived TV show Bring 'em Back Alive in the 80s on CBS.

  • @peterbooth793
    @peterbooth793 2 роки тому +10

    When this movie 🎬 came out, there was a video game that was in many arcades that was based on the movie. It was pretty cool 😎 👌. Hard to win though, as you can imagine 😀.

    • @Lumibear.
      @Lumibear. 2 роки тому +1

      Unofficially I would say REZ is a good TRON og video game, especially in VR.

  • @cessnaace
    @cessnaace 2 роки тому +3

    I saw this in a theater back in the day. I was 24 at the time. Technically it was a nightmare to produce. The state of CGI was so limited at the time that they couldn't animate movement. The animation, shot in the high resolution VistaVision format, had to be shot by hand frame by frame (each frame taking 6 hours). Actually more than that, because they were compositing multiple frames of animation on top of each other. VistaVision (developed by Paramount in the 50s) was used because they were compositing so many layers of film on top of each other. The actors in the computer world were shot in 65-mm Super Panavision, while the actors in the outside world were shot using Super 35 Panavision. Everything shot in VistaVision and standard 35-mm was then blown up to 65-mm Super Panavision. The 20 minutes or so of CGI disqualified the film for Oscar consideration, as the Academy felt that its use was cheating.

  • @Lumibear.
    @Lumibear. 2 роки тому +5

    I love how well this was remastered in time for the sequel, the effects were a bit ropy by modern standards, so they basically made it look as you remembered it if you were there in the 80s. Still nothing else looks like it even now, a vibrant virtual world made of pure electronic light is a great concept, and a great story.

  • @mikemeggison5084
    @mikemeggison5084 2 роки тому +3

    One could render these graphics on their PC now, but back then, they were pushing the strongest super-computer at maximum blast with extra cooling fans.

    • @John_Locke_108
      @John_Locke_108 Рік тому

      The documentary on the making of this film is a must watch for fans. As a kid I was impressed but now as an adult my mind is blown by what they did and how they did it.

  • @JonathanPohlner
    @JonathanPohlner 2 роки тому +8

    I'd be curious to hear your take on the sequel. They explored the cyber space in the cartoon a lot more too and it sounds like Jared Leto is working on Tron 3 now. Group 7 would work, because that's read & write access, but that's the highest level. Six works because it at least has READ access, even though they can't update anything with WRITE access. So just being a big building doesn't mean there are lots of groups. It's like black belts and having the seventh level clearance.

  • @tomyoung9049
    @tomyoung9049 2 роки тому +3

    Saw this at the theater when it came out. One of the last single screen theaters in my area before it went multiplex with smaller screens. Fascinating idea, programs being 'alive' and interacting. Some of the clever pieces are dated now. For instance, R.A.M. was used to describe random access memory. Bits are smalls parts of memory storage, bytes are of course still used.
    It was a pretty fun video game as well, the final battle trying to shut down the MCP was pretty tough.

  • @justinplayfair4638
    @justinplayfair4638 2 роки тому +3

    The French artist Moebius did the concept designs for the costumes, and famed futurist Syd Mead designed many of the vehicles and settings.
    Bruce Boxleitner and Cindy Morgan were briefly married and they would also co-star in the CBS TV series Bring 'em Back Alive!
    It was such an ambitious film...I think with a little more production time it would have been a better film. But it's *still* a marvel to look at (and listen to) 40 years later...

  • @TheCastellan
    @TheCastellan 2 роки тому +1

    That bike race reminds me of the Atari 2600 game, 'Surround'.

  • @TheCosmicGenius
    @TheCosmicGenius 2 роки тому +1

    Hard to believe just how cutting this was 40 years ago. We've come a long way, baby!

  • @simonoleary9264
    @simonoleary9264 2 роки тому +4

    The colour lighting on the suits was done in post.
    The suits themselves were just grey with black marker drawn on to look like circuitry (it looks a bit naff in real life).
    They were then filmed in black and white and the colour and effects added later.
    Extra bit of Trivia, Bruce Boxleitner (Alan/Tron) and Peter Jurasik (Crom) were reunited when they both starred in Babylon 5. David Warner (Sark/Dillinger) also guest starred in an episode.

    • @sixstanger00
      @sixstanger00 2 роки тому +1

      David Warner also stars in _Star Trek V: The Final Frontier,_ as well as _Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country._

    • @simonoleary9264
      @simonoleary9264 2 роки тому

      @@sixstanger00
      We also played the Cardassian that tortured Picard in TNT
      "THERE ARE FOUR LIGHTS!!"
      An excellent episode that does have a similar one in B5, although it's hard to decide which did it better.

  • @nickthx1138
    @nickthx1138 2 роки тому +4

    When I watched this as a kid I thought it was the most amazing thing I’d ever seen. The costume effects were done with paint and light filters and lots of old school manual film processing. The Cgi effects and techniques being used were also ‘old school’ as it was an emerging technology, as the computer power was limited it would take days to produce small sequences. As for Flynn’s behaviour the character in the new Tron - not as good or notable as a film relatively - was also ‘off’ in his own way, in his case not so likeable really. I suppose the similarities between the computer world and the human one are because the computer world was made by humans, but it was a handy tool to comment on our lives.

  • @kosh6612
    @kosh6612 2 роки тому +1

    wow, great eye for the easter eggs! Led costume lighting would have been really handy. This film was one of the first to outsource massively overseas with most of the matte paintings and costumer illumination. It was nightmare. They stacked the cells while still wet to ship them back to the studio. The modern sequel is amazing. One of the few modern 'remakes' to both improve and expand on the story... and what a soundtrack! I will always love this film.. even though it's corny as hell and very much a product of it's specif time, the concepts touched on are deeply interesting. FYI I got to playthe actual TRON arcade game back in the day, there were very few machines made (shown in the movie with a glowing joystick). Light cycles was really hard, and my experience usually went like the guy in the movie, but disc wars (ring game) was really fun.

  • @peterbooth793
    @peterbooth793 2 роки тому +3

    Bond villain Ikea?I love it 😀.

  • @John_Locke_108
    @John_Locke_108 Рік тому

    One of my all time favorite films. Back when I was in the 4th grade, in 1986, I was one of only 4 kids who attended after school computer club. Eventually it was just me and it got canceled.

  • @YoureMrLebowski
    @YoureMrLebowski 2 роки тому +2

    0:28 david warner was also in time after time. coincidence?

    • @queenglamazona8789
      @queenglamazona8789 2 роки тому

      What about his role in Time Bandits? He was Awesome In That.

    • @gggooding
      @gggooding 2 роки тому +1

      ...and Star Trek VI.

  • @BigGator5
    @BigGator5 2 роки тому +1

    "Who's that guy?"
    "That's Tron. He fights for the Users."
    You have to watch the documentaries to understand how they made this movie, I cannot do an explanation justice.
    Fun Fact: The film was disqualified from receiving an Academy Award nomination for special effects, because the Academy felt at the time that it was "cheating" using computers.
    Greetings, Program Fact: The state-of-the-art computer used for the film's key special effects had only 2MB of memory and 330MB of storage. Smartphones today would put that computer to shame.
    Priority Access Fact: Many Disney animators refused to work on this movie because they feared that computers would put them out of business. In fact, 22 years later Disney closed its hand-drawn animation studio in favor of CGI animation. Hand-drawn animation was ultimately resumed at Disney at the behest of new creative director John Lasseter, also head of Pixar, ironically started as a computer animation company.

  • @LionKimbro
    @LionKimbro 2 роки тому +1

    I really appreciated the love triangle between Tron/Alan, Yori/Lora, and Flynn. Flynn and Alan I think are attractive men in different ways, and that both the actress and the character in the story was attracted to both of the men. I also liked that the men seemed to accept the situation for what it is, and didn’t seek to destroy one another, but genuinely cooperated. There’s a real photo of the three of them out there, with the two men pointing away from her, and her in the center, with one hand on both of them, smiling. Also- be sure to locate the deleted love scene between Yori and Tron. I thought that it was really sweet.

  • @va3ngc
    @va3ngc 2 роки тому +1

    Sign - from the "Day the Earth Stood Still". Never noticed that before. Now you have to watch the new Tron movie. BTW - also watch Dr. Who - The War Machines from 1966. Very similar idea.

    • @alexachipman
      @alexachipman  2 роки тому +1

      Good point; I haven’t rewatched that era Who in a few years :)

  • @kevinputry5655
    @kevinputry5655 2 роки тому +1

    This is one of my favorites. At the same time, it's beautifully designed and a work of art as well as a clever work of symbolism comparing the real world with the virtual world inside the computer. Over the years I've read people complaining about it saying it was boring or that they didn't understand it but it isn't rocket science here. Now as for the thing about Flynn, if memory serves me correctly, the lady in the film was his ex. And it's clear to me that he never got over losing her. Sadly it's that way for some guys. Sure it was an unnecessary element in the film but I never really payed much attention to that.

    • @alexachipman
      @alexachipman  2 роки тому +1

      Well as a lady, I do pay attention to things like creepy ex bfs hitting on women who are already with someone!

  • @queenglamazona8789
    @queenglamazona8789 2 роки тому

    Everybody in Tron looked like a Character from Automan.

  • @oaf-77
    @oaf-77 2 роки тому +2

    I liked this movie a lot, I had a small collection of Tron toys, books and games. Also to me it drew parallels to Ancient Rome with the gladiatorial games and the religious persecution. It’s like a cyberspace Spartacus.
    5:30 have you seen ‘Army of Darkness’ (1992)?

  • @spacedinosaur8733
    @spacedinosaur8733 2 роки тому

    The sign in the office is Gort Klaatu Barada Nikto, from 'The Day the Earth Stood Still', classic sci-fi movie from 1951. Klaatu Barada Nikto is also used to control the spells of the Necronomicon in 'Army of Darkness' from 1992

    • @alexachipman
      @alexachipman  2 роки тому

      Indeed, that’s why I included a clip of the original :)

    • @queenglamazona8789
      @queenglamazona8789 2 роки тому +1

      Whatever you do-Never Watch the Remake of The Day The Earth Stood Still.

  • @peterhecker1343
    @peterhecker1343 2 роки тому +2

    Hello Alexa
    In Case You don't know, there's a sequel (Tron Legacy) from 2010 that You could also watch :)

  • @geoffmason7215
    @geoffmason7215 2 роки тому +3

    Who else loves onion movies? so much to discover and enjoy

  • @dostatochno
    @dostatochno Рік тому

    I think you should watch some behind the scenes stuff on how the grid-space stuff was made. The costumes didn't use any lighting or reflective effects. I don't remember well enough to give a proper summary, but what they did was exceedingly difficult and labor-intensive, mostly in post-production work.

  • @mikemeggison5084
    @mikemeggison5084 2 роки тому +1

    And, today is Tron's 40th birthday.

    • @alexachipman
      @alexachipman  2 роки тому +1

      I just recorded the TRON sequel reaction also!

  • @danielwilliamson6180
    @danielwilliamson6180 2 роки тому

    TRON is a classic.

  • @emurphy42
    @emurphy42 2 роки тому

    8:58 "It recognizes him, I think." Those are actually called Recognizers.

  • @seanbumstead1250
    @seanbumstead1250 2 роки тому

    I was 13 years old watching this in the movie theater in 1982. The programs look like the users

  • @dei-wan-grey3888
    @dei-wan-grey3888 2 роки тому

    Tron was ahead of it’s time the Story was Fascinating and it was a Religion to them Humans from our World had Powers there a Classic

  • @mikemeggison5084
    @mikemeggison5084 2 роки тому +1

    Speaking of other studios trying to do their own Star Wars, you've seen the other biggies. "Krull" and "Dark Crystal". "Dark Crystal" wins. The one you haven't seen is "The Black Hole". Its...got some neat stuff, but it's a little slow and sloggy like "Star Trek The Motion Picture". Dunno if you'd like it. Maybe give it a shot?

    • @oaf-77
      @oaf-77 2 роки тому +1

      Black Hole is visually one of my favorite sci fi movies

    • @alexachipman
      @alexachipman  2 роки тому +2

      That would be because I already love The Black Hole and have seen it several times :)

    • @queenglamazona8789
      @queenglamazona8789 2 роки тому +1

      "There Are Old Pilots, And There Are Bold Pilots. But There Are No Old, Bold Pilots."

    • @oaf-77
      @oaf-77 2 роки тому

      @@queenglamazona8789 Vincent is my favorite

  • @TheMrPeteChannel
    @TheMrPeteChannel Рік тому

    In the real world Flynn is " a cool dude " but his program CLU is nerdy/geeky. Alan in the real world is a nerd but his program TRON is the " cool
    Hero ".

  • @mikemeggison5084
    @mikemeggison5084 2 роки тому +1

    Before Disney bought Star Wars, they kept trying to make their own Star Wars. This was one of them. "The Black Hole" was another one. They had toys and everything. They didn't take. Nothing was gonna dethrone Star Wars. Unlike "Black Hole" "Tron" rose up with a cult following and is pretty beloved today. I mean, it got the sequel didn't it?

    • @alexachipman
      @alexachipman  2 роки тому +2

      The Black Hole should have! In my opinion it was a much better film. I absolutely loved it!

  • @joepike1972
    @joepike1972 2 роки тому

    16:50 I think you were being generous in suggesting the idea that the writers intentionally saw Flynn as flawed rather then betraying the disregard Hollywood execs/producers ect had towards women in the 80s and Flynn being "one of the boys".
    It makes me more curious as to how you will react to the newer Tron Legacy.

  • @davidfrost2819
    @davidfrost2819 2 роки тому

    I've noticed you like to react to a lot of David Warner films, another one of my favourites, another you might like with him in is Morgan. A Suitable Case For Treatment (1966)

    • @alexachipman
      @alexachipman  2 роки тому

      I will add your vote (I don’t choose any of these films, it is a combination of popular voted and patreon polls)

  • @SGlitz
    @SGlitz 2 роки тому

    The very first time any attempted what would be modern CGI. It begins here also, cyberpunk.

  • @damienkakoschke3099
    @damienkakoschke3099 9 місяців тому

    Assuming L.E.D. strips in TRON is very logical, but it's even weirder because it pre-dates L.E.Ds, all the effects has a lot more in common with traditional cell animation, hand cut out & back lit. - Your point about Flynn's behavior towards women was unfortunately just how hollywood wrote male hero character mostly in the 80's, not sure why, it was less to show the hero was flawed & more to show he was a bad-boy & dominant in a masculine way, like to think we've grown past that but we haven't

  • @TheCastellan
    @TheCastellan 2 роки тому

    Several cultures in central and south america made cities that appeared to be computer boards.

  • @jamesmoyner7499
    @jamesmoyner7499 2 роки тому +1

    Both this film and it's sequel didn't do well on initial release, but with time both have found cult followings.
    Also when Disney tried to have the film nominated for Best Visual Effects at the Oscars they didn't accept the film saying "using computers was cheating". My how things have changed.

    • @alexachipman
      @alexachipman  2 роки тому +3

      Oh my! This would easily have won for sfx, which hold up to this day :)

  • @gggooding
    @gggooding 2 роки тому

    So with this, Time After Time, and Trek VI...you've seen David Warner die three times. Only 41 more to go.
    RIP David Warner. 😢

    • @gggooding
      @gggooding 2 роки тому

      My mistake...you've also seen Time Bandits. So that's 4...

    • @gggooding
      @gggooding 2 роки тому

      Does Warner die in Horn Blower too? You mentioned it and I ain't seen it. Yet.

  • @pleasehelp2446
    @pleasehelp2446 2 роки тому +1

    Please tell me your are going to watch tron legacy (2010) it's a direct sequel to this movie with a lot of the same actors.

  • @nickbell8353
    @nickbell8353 2 роки тому

    Yeah, the original Tron is... not good. And yeah, Flynn making moves is not a good look for him, not even back in 1982.
    The thing that makes this movie hold up are the special effects; especially what they did with computer graphics, which was revolutionary at the time. Also, it had some pretty heavy competition that year. 1982 was a major year for Sci-Fi and fantasy. In addition to this movie, we got:
    Star Trek II: the Wrath of Khan
    The Secret of NIMH
    Poltergeist
    The Besstmaster
    E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial
    The Last Unicorn
    The Dark Crystal
    ...and those are just the ones off the top of my head. Also, Disney was really stretching their creative legs in that era. Overall, worth a look, but your mileage may vary.

  • @solvingpolitics3172
    @solvingpolitics3172 2 роки тому

    Hi Alexa,
    Great job per usual!
    How about doing a reaction from the original Star Trek. An episode like “Shore Leave?”

    • @alexachipman
      @alexachipman  2 роки тому

      I have seen all of Star Trek many times, other than Enterprise. I did some reactions to season 1 of that (my 3rd time watching them) over on Patreon. In case you aren’t aware, I have TAS reactions here on the channel!

    • @solvingpolitics3172
      @solvingpolitics3172 2 роки тому

      @@alexachipman TAS?

  • @alexmonroe4706
    @alexmonroe4706 2 роки тому

    By chance are you a writer (author) by day? As I could see you in the field of literature. Given your delightful narrations. Bye for now, Alex 😊

    • @alexachipman
      @alexachipman  2 роки тому

      Being an author does not pay the bills, so more like author by night lol alexachipman.com

  • @peterblood50
    @peterblood50 2 роки тому

    Life is merely a series of "if and then" statements playing out beyond our knowledge or control.

  • @spacecow149
    @spacecow149 2 роки тому +1

    have you seen The Black Hole?

  • @robindude8187
    @robindude8187 Рік тому

    "...this is why I have mixed feelings about A.I..."
    Yeah, it's a common fear. The _problem_ is that it's not a _realistic_ fear. After all, you deal with other intelligences _every day._ People. And you deal with other _cultures_ that do things in _very different ways_ than _you_ do them. An A.I. would just be a different culture. _Could_ we end up at war with an A.I. culture? Sure. But we war among our _own_ cultures, too.
    Fear of A.I. is no different than fear and suspicion aimed at the Chinese or people from Kazakhstan. We fear what we don't have experience with. Many of the main 'A.I. attacks humans' stories aren't even the fault of the A.I.. It's _us. We_ get scared, _we_ start the war, the A.I. just _wins_ the war. This was the case in both the Matrix and the Terminator franchises. _We_ attacked first, the A.I. was defending itself. Our fear, our ignorance, is more likely to be a problem than A.I. just being 'evil'.
    "...maybe that's a good thing, having a hero that is flawed..."
    I agree. If you adore everything about a hero... I think the hero is far too much of a kid's idealized notion. No one is that way. Unless your hero is just supposed to be a 'power fantasy', and not have anything _meaningful_ to say, but I find most such movies vacuous and not enjoyable to watch. In fact I think the _best_ movies are the ones where the heroes are flawed and the villains are sympathetic. Iron Man versus Thanos was _amazingly_ good _precisely_ because of this dynamic. Tony Stark is a deeply flawed human being, and Thanos' _goal_ is understandable, even _laudable._ You could _easily_ flip their positions and the story would hold up.
    One of our problems as a species is that _most_ of us like to think the problems, the evil, the monsters... are 'out there'. But they're not, they're _in here,_ with us, because they _are_ us. The idea that there's one 'right' answer doesn't always work, life is simply too messy, too complicated for such black and white thinking, and yet we're _really, really bad_ at thinking in such non black-and-white ways.

  • @chrism6664
    @chrism6664 2 роки тому

    I keep triyng to subscribe but the subscription button never seems to stay locked on.

    • @alexachipman
      @alexachipman  2 роки тому

      Ah UA-cam! I appreciate the thought, though!

  • @joepike1972
    @joepike1972 2 роки тому

    Will you be watching Tron Legacy?

    • @alexachipman
      @alexachipman  2 роки тому +1

      Strong possibility with all the votes I am seeing so far!