Surface Iron Arsenal
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- Опубліковано 8 вер 2024
- The set ups I prefer when when fishing surface irons. Daiwa Lexa HD 400 with Okuma SCTi XH 8'6. Daiwa Lexa WN 400 with Mojo Musky 8'6. Calstar GFDH 900 L with Daiwa Saltist 30 Black Gold. Calstar GFDH 100 J-MAG with Shimano Trinidad 20A
Thanks for the information. I was able to go to the Fred Hall Show and cast a Daiwa Proteus WN and Lexa 400 combo at the lagoon. Super easy to cast and had me sold. I ended up getting an 8' 10" Proteus Winn and a Lexa 400HD HS-P. Thank you for the informative videos.
brianfmueller glad this helped! Hope you enjoy your new set up! I’ll definitely be testing out the proteus WN while I’m there today!
I just bought a shimano tdr 9foot heavy for my back up surface iron rod. I have the 8 foot and I love it for casting small jigs. They only cost $35 and they are 2 piece which is so f ing convenient! They are the best budget surface iron rods
My goto light surface iron set up is my Calstar 850L paired with the Saltiga 30L but I did get an Okuma SCTi-C 8' rod paired with a Daiwa Lexa 400 TW and man I love that set up especially for the smaller surface irons like the Tady C. Wish I had gotten the 8'6" but cant find them anymore.
Yes dude hell yeah been waiting for you to make a vid like this
Tony Andraca yeah man. Haha meant to do this like over a month ago but everytime I’m able to film it something comes up
A new rod idea for your surface iron casting....
Try a Batson 8'10" Saltwater/Musky rod acid
wrapped(spiral wrapped). Talk to Kerry (Batson?)
for the efficiency in casting spiral wrapped guides
on all your casting rods. Believe you might find a game
changer in this regard.
BOL to you and your great channel... Tight lines..:-)
Might have to look into it! Always open to new ideas and other alternatives for surface iron rods outside of the main surface iron rod company’s. Thanks!
What kind of distance are you getting using the spiral wrap? I never saw one in use yet. Thx
Nice lineup. As you get better with surface iron you'll add more sticks. It's a fun addiction!
Jigslinger's Fishing Channel it really is an addiction. Lol I’ll fish for bonito all day on the iron if the yellows aren’t biting. But you’re right, I already want more haha
Dirty Hookers Any surface iron bite is awesome from calicos to tuna. Good to hear you’re ready for more sticks. It’s inevitable. Lol. There are a lot of great surface rods. The collecting process is almost as fun as the fishing part.
Jigslinger's Fishing Channel I agree. Haha I I literally go out and feel it out and cast the set ups the day I get them
I know that feeling well. haha. I went rockfishing a few days ago and took one of my surface iron setup because I've been missing using them. Tied on an Ahi jig to bounce for rockfish. Check it out. ua-cam.com/video/9LiAkG28_-k/v-deo.html
I can't wait for surface action to start!
Jigslinger's Fishing Channel nice man! I didn’t know that about the barber poles either I’m glad you put that in the video. Good tip. I heard yesterday out of Point Loma. Had so some really nice surface action on the mission belle
Check out the new Okuma Pch Custom rods, seen one the other day with the 400 wn. Definitely gonna pick them up this year.
jdebelak10 I’ve seen the 7 and 7’6 and that’s just too short for my preference. Do you know if they make longer?
Dirty Hookers definitely, the 8 looked really good, they have a 9 foot and I think a 10 as well
I got the 8' xh PCH with the Okuma Komodo. Love this set up.
REELDEALJOJO Orozco I was gonna ask about that same rod
Let me know what you think after you hook up on a slug
I was gunna pair it up with the Komodo SS as well
What gear ratio would you recommend for surface iron setup? I have a lexa hd 400 in 5.1 with an 8foot okuma PCH. How do you think that would do or should I put together a designated surface iron setup?
jett milano got the lexas, I personally like the 7:1 ratio. I do recommend putting together a designated surface iron set up. It’s nice to be able to have multiple rods rigged up and ready for whatever the bite might be on
Thanks for the advice! Do you have an Instagram?
jett milano I do. @RaySharifi
instagram.com/raysharifi?igshid=k9y8mop58kc0
If you have anymore questions feel free to shoot me a DM
Can i get by on most ocean fishing with Lexa okuma scti combo and komodo okuma pch combo?
johnnymohani that’ll honestly be fine for almost all of SoCal fishing. Unless you hook a 60+ lb tuna, you’ll have plenty of line on a lexa 400 and a komodo 400
Hey brotha, how are you liking the musky mojo rod? I just bought one , same size and all. The newer model though.
the cork dries up and starts to stink. Tuna cord is the way to go 👍
John De La Garza I was actually told if you use u-40 to seal the cork it keeps it new and fresh for a long time. But either way. I do like tuna cord a lot better
Calstar always
Wacko -487 love calstar
I can't find that okuma scti-c-861xh anywhere...
Okuma discontinued the SCTi about a year or 2 unfortunately. Might be able to call Okuma directly and ask if they have anymore at the main warehouse
What would you recommend, something similar....
@@d.t.fdowntofish8469 maybe the Okuma pch inshore might have a similar action.
If not, The Daiwa proteus or proteus inshore rod might be my next choice.
@d.t.fdowntofish8469
The PCH Custom rods are much stiffer and doesn't have nearly as much whip action in it like the SCTi-C does. If you're looking for something with similar action the closest thing I know of is the Calstar Grafighter 850L but that rod is much much more expensive. If you can find a used one I would jump all over it.
But if you're looking for something from Okuma that is practically identical in action as the SCTi-C check out their Guide Select Swinbait Rods in Mag Extra Heavy. However, they don't make them longer than 7'11" in order to cut back on export shipping cost. They also have the Guide Select Custom Black Swimbait line in which they make an XXXH but they too are all 7'11". or shorter.
Now if you don't ming spending a little bit more money on a Okuma rod check out their PCH Custom Lightweight Carbon Inshore Casting Rods. It's their baitcasting rod versions of the PCH Custom series. I don't have one yet but just might pull the trigger one one.
#chuckandwind
Check out those zbar and jri irons...haven't had one that doesn't swim or doesn't catch fish...all of them swim amazing
Kevin Nguyen I’ve never used them but I always wanted to try them out. I’ll see if I can get acouple at the Fred hall show this year. Thanks man
how often do you hookup on surface irons at castaic?
dougie monsta I’ve actually only been there that one time and it was too windy to fish. We left after an hour. But I plan on going a lot this summer or when the weather warms up. I’m sure the irons will work well. Everything I’ve heard about stripers sounds a lot like yellowtail fishing
nice. i'm still trying to talk myself into getting a surface iron rod, even though most of its use will probably be at the aqueduct throwing swimbaits. what do you think about the 8.1:1 lexa 400?
dougie monsta I’m sorry I’m just seeing this reply. But the 8:1 is good for swimbait fishing and iron fishing. It’s nice to have a faster gear ratio for irons so you can do a constant steady wind and get the right action
no worries
i think this summer i'll pick up that lexa with the PCH 9ft heavy
another question i had tho, i watched your rod and reel arsenal, and i know you mentioned the 2 speed metalloid, but i dont remember what size you said for yellows. looking for a reel for my mom, and we do a good amount of rockfishing and i know reeling a 6:1 from 300 feet burns her arms out haha
dougie monsta it’s the metaloid 5 ii. Amazing reel. I’ve put it against a lot of yellowtail and I use it everytime I go for rockfish. Definitely one of my favorite reels to use
Hello, i gotta daiwa lexa 300wn... wondering what rod you would pair it with for so cal yellowtail and tuna fishing...just need an all around rig. Thanks!
too small for tuna and good sized yellowtail. get a torium 20, or like sized reel with 80lb spectra and a 9' H/XH and you'll slay them
What kind of jigging rod do you recommend for casting some heavy led like 6-8 ounce off the pier for sharks. Preferably 9 feet
Rick B not 100% sure to be honest. I’ve never got into shark fishing unfortunately. I think my buddy used to use the Daiwa proteus 9ft for sharks. I’ll ask some of my friends who fish for sharks and try to get back to you today.
Dirty Hookers Sounds good I’d appreciate that, thanks bro
Rick B hey my buddy said pretty much any rod 8-10ft rated 25-50# or 50-80 ish would be fine for what your looking for. He says it all comes down to preference with shark fishing. What might feel good to cast for you can feel wrong for others
Dirty Hookers alrite cool I have a calstar myself and it’s a deck hand style rod Wich I like but I feel like there’s a lure limit with as for I cast 7 ounce leds. Thank you for the feed back though I appreciate it
Rick B no problem man. Sorry I couldn’t be more help. I don’t cast anything heavier then 3-4 oz surface irons lol
How does the lexa winn hold up in saltwater?
Mr Bean33 it’s held up perfectly fine. This is going on my 3rd season using the WN. Never maintenanced, just a good rinse when I get home from fishing
does the baitcasting rods do well with bigger surface irons? or do u just use them for the small sizes
Jake Richardson they’re fine for larger too. I cast mostly tady 45’s over anything else
@@Dirty.Hookers just picked up a 8.1 diawa lexa HD XS
Jake Richardson nice bro! That’s the perfect speed for a 400 to get a nice controlled rhythm on your retrieve
I travel is there a two piece out there?
Cape Fox I can’t think of anything off the top of my head. I’ll see if I can find anything today
Is the first setup good for live bait as well?
Dominic Dante it’ll work. Just gotta loosen up the tension on the spool a lot so that the bait can swim freely
Mr. Sharifi, are you Persian? I had a classmate in school with Sharifi last name ,
Rob Roy I am part Persian actually. My grandma is Mexican and my grandpa was Persian, but I never met him or learned about the culture
Tranx or Lexa which Siries
How it is landing yellowtail on a 10' rod as opposed to 7' rods. You feel like that extra length is working against you when fighting a big YT?
Mike Marketello I haven’t hooked a yellowtail on my 10’ yet. Only big bonito. But it really is a different fight. You gotta figure out what’s comfortable to fight the fish. The long rod really can wear you out a little more but also can give you more leverage when needed. I’m sorry it’s kinda hard to explain the different feeling
I've landed 100+ lb tuna on my 9ftr ...man up
moz 2121 I’ve landed plenty of 40-70lb fish on my 20-40 pinhead lol. It’s fun
You said nothing beats a stiff rod. I have a graftech rod I got custom with a deckhand style grip and it’s also really stiff, can you throw iron with a rod that stiff? I’m having a hard time getting 30 yards when I can cast a iron with a jigstick easily 60-70 yards. How far would you say you’re getting with your mojo rod, I’d really like to know just to see if I should be worrying or not
jdebelak10 I tested it out on our last trip. It’s definitely a different style of casting. What I noticed is it almost feels like you bounce the jig right at the preload of the cast. So I started to purposely do that and it helped. Kinda hard to explain. But yeah it is a different method for sure, but as soon as you can figure out what helps you, you can be slinging jigs just as far
Dirty Hookers can please make a vid of how you "bounce the jig on the preload" I need to see what that looks like because I have an idea that's what I might need on a crowded party boat.
I have a Calstar GF 900H that I used for casting irons and it's pretty stiff. Figured out that instead of pre-determining leader length wasn't the way to go. Right before the cast, I'd let the jig drop 3 feet to help the tip load up and as soon as I stop the spool on the drop I start the cast.
Not sure if that's the same, but has helped me in getting a bit more distance.
If u don't mind , how much was that Lexa HD at the Fred Hall Show?
FancyClown honestly I don’t remember. It was a whole year ago. It was at the turners booth. I think it was full price but also came with a free rod and a free braid spool up. They will probably have a good deal again this year
Dirty Hookers oh ok. Yeah I'm most likely gonna be going this year and specifically for a Lexa HD but Im just wondering if it'll be worth going to Long Beach or just ordering it online.
Fancy clown.. one of the best questions.. i hate to go to the Fred Hall Show and the savings are shit.. i have asked people about other reels and nobody ever says anything good.
Check out the daiwa DXSB 8ft xtra Heavy rod you will not regret it
Tony Andraca I’ll check it out. Haha I’m trying to not buy anything before the Fred hall show. It’s been really hard. So maybe I’ll wait to check it out till I’m there lol
Nice
Brian Villasenor thanks man
Dirty Hookers no problem
What's the opinion on the 8 or 9 foot okuma makaira rods in deckhand style. They seemed like a steal.
Cooper Emery I haven’t felt one out yet but it seems like it’d be a Big Bang for your buck. The 8ft would be a perfect all around rod and the 9 ft would be a good iron rod. I’d go for it
Dirty Hookers thank you for replying which one would you recommend Medium-Heavy ,Heavy, or Light etc
Cooper Emery if you’re going to be doing surface iron fishing I’d get the 9ft xh
Cooper Emery 9 ft 30-50 would definitely be ideal
Dope dude did you hit capa? Wind was bruital! Any yellows
Alexander Team Billy Wynn went to the Coronado Islands in SD. It was still windy and cold but the yellows were biting
what clamp did you use from trinidad 20 a ?
omar mercado it’s a tiburon universal clamp kit. And I used a cork puppy on the back of the rod instead of the tiburon backing.
Where can i buy that Calstar GFDH 100 J-MAG?
i flo I unfortunately don’t know. I’ve looked online and couldn’t find one. I bought it from a buddy. He might’ve got it from the Fred hall show acouple years ago. My advice. Ask on bloody decks if anyone knows where to get one. And check fishing swap meets or conventions
What quality reel would u pair with a seeker 9’3 Ulua for Surface. Idk if I should put a Tranx 500, a Trinidad and it’s getting kinda complicated. If u could get back to me that would be awesome
Gabe St. Hilaire hmm. I feel like if your going to spend that much I’d rather have the Trinidad then the tranx. The tranx will be easier to cast but with a rod like that you can try to get on some big blue fins if you came up on a school and I’d feel more comfortable fighting a bluefin on a Trinidad then a tranx. Either one would be a great match but that’s what I would do
Dirty Hookers alright thanks! I’m glad u did this video totally subscribing! What size for the trini since I won’t go with the Tranx
Gabe St. Hilaire thanks man I appreciate that! I have the 20A I think it’s the perfect size Trinidad for irons. Not too big not to small.
Dirty Hookers perfect thank you🤙🏽
Gabe St. Hilaire of course man! Glad I can help
Choke up on that but,g fighter. You get bent on a 40 pound yellow u dont want that in your armpit. Trust me u might be ok after the first fish
Roberta Palmero yeah definitely. Ever since I started using my g fighter I’ve fought almost every fish in my waist. Totally different fight on the long rod! Definitely helps turn the head on the fish as well. Thanks for looking out!
I suck at baitcasters so I use spinning what size would be best for yellowtail? I've never caught one. Would my Penn fierce ll 6000 size(30lbs test) be too heavy?
420 Casting no that’ll actually be perfect. When I fish live bait for yellowtail I use 30lb mono. And sometimes 20lb flouro when they are more line shy
420 Casting but if I do 20lb flouro I just connect it to my mono and do about a 4-6 ft leader
OK thx hopefully get out on a charter soon!
420 Casting hell yeah. If you wanna better your chances at your first yellowtail id wait till the water warms up and also keep an eye out on the fish counts. When all boats start consistently catching a lot that’s when I would hop on
OK fosho
Have you looked at the Cousins Raze RSW 909T or the CPX 909HF? Those rods are made for the Lexa 400
pan8a I haven’t. I love cousins rods though. I’ll have to check them out. I’ve fished a few of their rods. But I’ve never owned one
ive fished the hell out of a raze RSW 909T and a thorium 20 have gotten several 25+ yellowtail.
What line are you using on the Daiwa WN / Mojo rig?
Hugo Gomez I have 160 yards of 50 lb powers pro and 60 yards of 30 lb mono
Dirty Hookers thanks for the update. I had ordered a 30-65 mojo but I received the same one you got. Feels light and strong. After looking at your rig looks like I'm going to copy you.😁
Hugo Gomez haha well if you copy me I hope you enjoy the set up lol it just comes down to the anglers preference . I didn’t even know they made a 30-65 mojo musky.
what kind of rod is the okuma . specs?
Ricardo Bravo it’s the okuma scti I believe 20-40. I did a video on that rod alone if you wanna check it out. 8’6
Are you making a video of tomorrow?
Luke Cara Yep! Got 3 yellows. I’ll have the video up tomorrow night
Fuck yea that’s sick can’t wait
Same I’d rather use a baitcaster
... "Likes stiff RODZ" TWSS
GT Vitti hahaha
You don't cast the big avet's like the LX or HX while throwing irons?
Tacklecentral Fishing I’ve honestly never even fished any abet reels before. I have a lot of friends that use them but I just started fishing irons maybe like April of last year
Tacklecentral Fishing so almost a year ago
Tacklecentral Fishing Lol I just realized you were talking about the big trolling reels haha no I don’t use those for irons
I see videos of the long range guys throwing iron and bait and stuff on avets, they cast a very long ways. It all comes down to personal prefrence i guess.
Tacklecentral Fishing you’ve seen people cats irons with the HX? That’s so impressive. Lol I’d backlash so bad!
10 pound bonita like a flick in the nose compared to a 30 lb yellowtail on that 10 foot stick bud
Brad Johnson yeah I finally put some yellows on the 100j acouple different trips now. Nothing bigger then 15 lbs yet though. But yeah man yellows on the long rod is a whole different fight. I didn’t realize it
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