Hey Angelo, I’m a young guy just turning 25 and I’ve followed your content for a while. Ever since I’ve been interested in this I’ve been throwing things away, things I don’t need, and things I realize I was doing as a distraction, like video games, ‘interest’ and ‘hobbies’ that I realize are really just my desire to feel ok by achieving something in the future. My life has never been emptier, but it has never been more focused. It feels like I have cut off everything that helps me to run away and now there’s nothing else to do but to be here, and there’s nothing else I want to do, frankly. It feels so scary, I don’t know what I’m getting myself into, and there are so much grief and suffering, but there’s just no other way, I have to do this now, and I don’t know what’s going on and I’m scared.
Something similar happened to me in my early twenties (I'm 44 now), though I had nothing like the nonduality content and other resources available today. So I was really on my own with it. And I took some amazing turns and plenty of wrong turns -- and that's OK :) Try not to be scared. More and more I see there is nothing to fear here. Keep the faith in yourself and your instincts. You have them for a reason :)
Although you was addressing Angelo, I think it might be helpful to know you’re not alone in this, I’m 24 y o Ukrainian and on a conventional level I have a lot of similarity to what you described, maybe with the exception of me being music artist so that’s kind of the one conventional thing that’s still happening because some instinct tells me I have to proceed
This isn't supposed to be something that's taken seriously brother. I can relate to your comment because I was there too when I was arounf 24. I'm 29 now, I left non duality behind and traveled and had all sorts of fun. I returned to non duality naturally about 2 years ago. Now it's much more natural of a process. I'm not trying to escape anything, I am just sinking deeper into what already is. It's a slow process and it's is very uncomfortable at times and other times more than joyful. All I can say, is don't take this seriously. Because all you are taking seriously is a concept. And what Angelo is talking about is not a concept. He's talking about what's already here right now. It's a gentle looking not a forced looking. And bro, my bestfriend had an awakening a few months ago while we were both obsessing over the new COD Zombies game, so stopping gaming is not going to do anything to take you away from nonduality or bring you closer to it. Enjoy your life brother, play video games, go for a run, meet with friends, do emotion work, do some self enquiry when it feels natural - just don't take this stuff seriously :) it's more a curiosity thing :). And remember, you are not alone.
Hey man :) I can relate to you so much, but please here me out: I was at a similar point as you, where spirituality was my only focus and the only thing I cared about. After awakening this became much worse, I was feeling so extremely bad since all my repressed stuff came to the surface with absolutely no way of escaping it. So I was meditating for hours and hours everyday in the hope to get rid of all this faster, only watched videos of spirituality, learned about all the concepts and honestly just got more and more confused about this process and all I could think of was spirituality. I'm way better now and I've realized that it would have been much easier for me if I didn't take all this so seriously. Of course the repressed stuff in myself had to come up and be processed, but all the thoughts about spirituality really made it worse. I don't say you shouldn't take this process seriously, it's in fact very good that you're commited to this, but you really don't have to make yourself suffer. Getting rid of the things that distract you might be a good tool right now, but it's only that. You don't have to get rid of anything in the long run. Especially not hobbies that make you feel well :) Wish you the best!
I got a lot out of this one and will be revisiting it again. That the subtler aspect eventually switches places with the more prominent thought identity aspect was a sweet little juicy nugget
07:16 This has happened to me around Christmas, and every single day since has been legendary mystical perfection. It just keeps getting better, I've never been this high. I can't thank you enough Angelo ❤, you were the most authentic best teacher I ever had. Your pointers are always so clear and helpful.
Hi Angelo. My precious mother just passed on December 27. She was 97 and died peacefully in her sleep. I'd been her sole caregiver for the past 4 years while dementia gradually stole a great deal of the person I knew and loved deeply. My Mom was one of the kindest most compassionate person I've ever known. In her actions for others she proved that over and over again. We became so close it was almost like we were one person. I have grown and gone through deep changes at a fundamental level I just cannot describe in words. I can become completely immersed in something as simple as looking at a house plant and the total beauty of it. Is this what you mean by awakening? Bless you as you are blessing others Angelo.
Angelo..tirelessly pointing out who and what we are! The unbinding, unraveling, the seeing thru of concepts, beliefs, Ideas of who we think we are. To arrive at , realize and truly experience who and what WE have allways been! No thing and Everything 💝🙏
Re:foreground/background: On retreat on a hike, the experience was of being part of consciousness and everything around me, while my thoughts felt like a separate being, walking along the side. The thoughts were peripheral, and although I guess they are a part of the bigger network, they feel so much less central than the Whole.
The experience here has been the feeling of waking from a sleep not really a dream state but a deep sleep and having a WTF moment, as if not to recognize where I am and that the life I knew seems ridiculous
I imagine the mind as a border collie in that sense that they both need a job. The mind's inclination for story (thought) is a strong force, evolutionarily rooted to help us survive. No small task to reckon with it. This morning, I woke with a heaviness in my heart. I thought, "Oh, I feel sad." Then I thought, why not refrain from labelling it and, moreover, see it not as myself having an experience, but rather just the experience itself. Maybe it's a trick, but my mind understood the brief and relished the job.
When I try to just be with sensations, I can never tell where pure sensation ends and subtle, nonverbal thought begins. Tongue in my mouth, touching teeth - doesn't seem to feel like anything unless there's at least some sort of thought attached, even if it's just some wordless familiarity of a concept. Idgi, at all. The thought comes "there's definitely something there, in or as that sensation" but no, that's just a thought. There isn't definitely anything anywhere anytime at all. Doubting what you say more and more every day.
Love this! ❤😂🎉imagine being an Infinite numbers of yous… beyond the personal dimension of self!! Taken has taken off..: weeeeeya… let goooooo enjoy the ride!!
"Tink... tink... tink... thunk-pause-ahhh." and here it is ... the background (lol) now in everything.... unmistakably here, unremarkably now. Hearing as awareness, an intimate hand-holding descent into reality without a foreground or background haha. It was suddenly obvious that the ground zero of being is with eyes open or closed - attention appearing to fix itself to that for the first time . "I heard"something the other day ..."the mind needs to turn back on itself" and it did, immediately, long enough to make a mark. It is suggested that the true meaning of sin is 'to miss the mark' - what a wonderful realisation of the effortlessness at play with both hitting and missing a mark that doesn't really exist for any one and it is both known about and never known at all. Truly the first time there is a seeing of thoughts that have no 'charge' - and then there was a shift into charged thoughts and then a discharge and a neutrality. The pull to attend to this play has taken centre stage. Thank you as all-ways
Haven’t watched your videos for some time but this one called to me. Wow Angelo you have expressed perfectly that inner shift that has just happened to me. I got to the point where I just thought I give up It’s never gonna happen I just can’t get it no matter what I do. My external circumstances created a place of letting go and that inner thing happened. It’s pointless to ramble on about how miraculous this was but big thank you for confirming exactly the process. I’ve watched videos before when you talked of this and it was incomprehensible because I couldn’t relate to something I had yet to experience. The words from A Course in Miracles came up as I listened and confirmed the Reality of the experience. “ The sense of separation from God is the only lack you really need to correct “ and “ In my defenceless my safety lies” Your clarity of expressing what can not be expressed is amazing. Hahaha Thank you from Staffordshire U.K. Your contribution is priceless 🙏🫂💚
Lol that little switch over happened to me this past weekend. A tremendous amount of okayness is here but also a tremendous amount of uncertainty and discomfort. But it's clear that the uncertainty is just there because the mind is looking for a certainty that is less certain than this lol
I feel I'm precisely at that point you described, where it's taking over. There's beauty everywhere. Lots of fear, but courage and trust too. It's all at once, really. Excitement, and holding back. A deep longing for expansion, and a primordial terror, contracting. It seems almost rhythmical, like breathing. I only wonder, and I've been curious about this since forever, is there a clear point at which this turns into something else entirely? Like a loud, cosmic pop?! Or does this only ever gradually keep deepening in this way it has so far?
Here's a silly train of thought that might be helpful: You are what you're looking for. What you're looking for, you actually are it. Why would you ever look for what you are if you are it? Where do you look for what you are? How do you look for what you are? Then is awakening something that you do or achieve or what you also are? Do it by are-ing it? You already are are-ing it?
Angelo what does it mean when I read a comment about a mother who loses their child because they could not pay for insulin and I ugly cry like a baby? Is that empathy or am I still hopelessly mired in reactivity? It's literally just symbols on a screen written by a person I've never met. Could even be made up.
Yeah. 'Oh shit'. Currently studying The Moon tarot card, which is all about 'going off the map'. Getting serious and possibly a bit dangerous around here lol On the upside, I'm coming to UK retreat!! Yay!
FINALLY I'm feeling the pull instead of the (seemingly effortful) push. I feel like I've been flipping my polarity right along with the sun. It gets quite chaotic as the transition happens.
language is tricky...de-personalization and de-realization which is a pathology caused by trauma and anxiety seems like a counterfeit "no-self" there is no peace or bliss there , just pure terror....would you comment Angelo? thanks🙏🙏
hi how would you advise someone going through intense derealization and solipsism syndrome? i have this voice in my head that constantly says “how do you 100% know that other people are real sentient conscious beings like you?” it’s incredibly isolating and scary, as my relationships are the best part of my life (family, girlfriend, friends, etc) and this OCD-like thought is relentless. thanks
So, trying to puzzle this out, something is just supposed to click at some point? If I'm not sure about it now, pretty much means I'm not there yet, then. Such an agonizing thing to desire, geez!
@solid_snek Understanding is a process of solidifying conceptual ideas as valid or true. Understanding also is a relationship of subordination to those things deemed true. Your world and your self have one aspect that is always changing and often chaotic. They also have another aspect that is constant and unchanging (i personally call this the divine aspect). The challenge you face is that to conceptualize something requires a relational simplification. Simplifying an experience into a concept corrupts the experience. Our ego collects these corrupted past experiences and then projects them onto new current experiences. The experience itself behind the thought is what I personally would consider awakening (awareness of awareness). Liberation from the corrupted experiences is what I would personally call enlightenment. To make sense is something different than understanding. For something to make sense, it first has to be conceptualized (corrupted) and then it has to fit (as a conception) into a larger framework of other conceptualizations. You might be able to cram these concepts together like puzzle pieces and reach a state of satisfaction or contentment. But these conceptualizations are vulnerable to change as new experiences come and go. The real gift of Angelo's channel is that he is pointing to a work around. Instead of fine tuning your puzzle pieces to fit, we can let them just be puzzle pieces. Instead of spending our attention and awareness looking for the missing puzzle pieces that make everything fit, we can surrender to the impossibility of ever recreating the world or the self within the framework of the ego-mind. If we do make this surrender, suddenly we set down the puzzle and just connect directly to the world and the self and find out that the puzzle is already complete. Our existence (whatever we experience as existence) is our actual self. We are a puzzle piece. The puzzle is already complete. There may not be click per se. If you already are experiencing awareness of the world and the self directly, then it will feel like more of a shift than a click. It's just a shift of awareness. If you can only see your experiences via conceptualizations, then there will be a impactful or profound difference when your awareness drops the conceptualizations. If you need help try this: pay attention to emotions and thoughts as two different things. If you can do that you will be able to recognize that awareness is something behind (for lack of a better word)... behind the thoughts and emotions. If you can touch that awareness, you can orient your attention towards it. The more you are aware of your awareness, the more you default to staying present and transcending the thoughts and emotions as if they were just passing waves. Hope this in some way helps. Much love.
what kind of knowing is still there when you don't give thoughts any voluntary attention as they pass by, when you drop subtle thoughts that give meaning and context to you and whatever you take your situation to be (including meditation)?
@@mikeyfinn2 Observation of thoughts is something I've tried to incorporate to practically every waking hour. To answer your question: Emptiness, Void, lack of anything, take your pick. What I find difficult about all of this, is the uncertainty of what I'm supposed to recognize. Language seems insufficient to convey the message here.
Re-initiation, connected to the dead who live in me and the living who die in me - thanks to you.What a surprise in my age...lol Should i look 4 the unborn?
Thank you for being clear about this, but sometimes even you make it sound like it’s no big deal. That sounds to me like a really big deal and that as you say, quite obvious. And I know that I am not experiencing that. Even though I’ve been out this for years. I was just expressing to someone yesterday the difference between having this as an aspiration and the regular illusory goals of life, we can often have at least some inkling in our imagination what some of those other experiences are and actually hold them out to ourselves as incentive but as you say, there’s nothing that we can imagine to aim it. I guess some people have experienced this through psychedelics, which doesn’t necessarily mean that they experience it again without the drugs. Actually, no guarantee that you will experience something like that on a psychedelic trip.
Video summary: Awakening is beyond words, but Angelo's words and experience are ACTUAL no self, and your words and experiences are actually just self. haha 💩 (this is playful banter btw)
He resists too much. Of course there is more, it is continuum, evolution moves forward, to regress is to become the psychosis. There is always a first who must break the illusory barrier that a final destination can be achieved. The one who breaks free must turn away from all such commentary. He looks awful, you know how to repair the damage. Stop him from talking so much and get him to listen again 🧬
Well I want it now you hear me universe give it to me now I deserve it yes you the laptop I'm staring at because you're me and the phone on my desk all of you bow to my will mua ha ha ha
Hey Angelo, I’m a young guy just turning 25 and I’ve followed your content for a while. Ever since I’ve been interested in this I’ve been throwing things away, things I don’t need, and things I realize I was doing as a distraction, like video games, ‘interest’ and ‘hobbies’ that I realize are really just my desire to feel ok by achieving something in the future. My life has never been emptier, but it has never been more focused. It feels like I have cut off everything that helps me to run away and now there’s nothing else to do but to be here, and there’s nothing else I want to do, frankly. It feels so scary, I don’t know what I’m getting myself into, and there are so much grief and suffering, but there’s just no other way, I have to do this now, and I don’t know what’s going on and I’m scared.
Something similar happened to me in my early twenties (I'm 44 now), though I had nothing like the nonduality content and other resources available today. So I was really on my own with it. And I took some amazing turns and plenty of wrong turns -- and that's OK :)
Try not to be scared. More and more I see there is nothing to fear here.
Keep the faith in yourself and your instincts. You have them for a reason :)
Although you was addressing Angelo, I think it might be helpful to know you’re not alone in this, I’m 24 y o Ukrainian and on a conventional level I have a lot of similarity to what you described, maybe with the exception of me being music artist so that’s kind of the one conventional thing that’s still happening because some instinct tells me I have to proceed
This isn't supposed to be something that's taken seriously brother. I can relate to your comment because I was there too when I was arounf 24. I'm 29 now, I left non duality behind and traveled and had all sorts of fun. I returned to non duality naturally about 2 years ago. Now it's much more natural of a process. I'm not trying to escape anything, I am just sinking deeper into what already is. It's a slow process and it's is very uncomfortable at times and other times more than joyful. All I can say, is don't take this seriously. Because all you are taking seriously is a concept. And what Angelo is talking about is not a concept. He's talking about what's already here right now. It's a gentle looking not a forced looking.
And bro, my bestfriend had an awakening a few months ago while we were both obsessing over the new COD Zombies game, so stopping gaming is not going to do anything to take you away from nonduality or bring you closer to it. Enjoy your life brother, play video games, go for a run, meet with friends, do emotion work, do some self enquiry when it feels natural - just don't take this stuff seriously :) it's more a curiosity thing :).
And remember, you are not alone.
Hey man :)
I can relate to you so much, but please here me out: I was at a similar point as you, where spirituality was my only focus and the only thing I cared about. After awakening this became much worse, I was feeling so extremely bad since all my repressed stuff came to the surface with absolutely no way of escaping it. So I was meditating for hours and hours everyday in the hope to get rid of all this faster, only watched videos of spirituality, learned about all the concepts and honestly just got more and more confused about this process and all I could think of was spirituality.
I'm way better now and I've realized that it would have been much easier for me if I didn't take all this so seriously. Of course the repressed stuff in myself had to come up and be processed, but all the thoughts about spirituality really made it worse.
I don't say you shouldn't take this process seriously, it's in fact very good that you're commited to this, but you really don't have to make yourself suffer. Getting rid of the things that distract you might be a good tool right now, but it's only that. You don't have to get rid of anything in the long run. Especially not hobbies that make you feel well :)
Wish you the best!
Perfectly put ❤
Yes. The ending of something that never happened. Not the ending of self, rather the realization that there never was. 😮
Yes
I think it was the famous words of Chad when you think you’re the one driving the vehicle but really you’re in the back of the trunk!
I got a lot out of this one and will be revisiting it again. That the subtler aspect eventually switches places with the more prominent thought identity aspect was a sweet little juicy nugget
07:16 This has happened to me around Christmas, and every single day since has been legendary mystical perfection. It just keeps getting better, I've never been this high. I can't thank you enough Angelo ❤, you were the most authentic best teacher I ever had. Your pointers are always so clear and helpful.
The more I listen to you the more it seems to soften my experience. The doubt feels prevalent and I never know where or who I am in this. 🙏😮💨🤯❤️
Hi Angelo. My precious mother just passed on December 27. She was 97 and died peacefully in her sleep. I'd been her sole caregiver for the past 4 years while dementia gradually stole a great deal of the person I knew and loved deeply. My Mom was one of the kindest most compassionate person I've ever known. In her actions for others she proved that over and over again. We became so close it was almost like we were one person. I have grown and gone through deep changes at a fundamental level I just cannot describe in words. I can become completely immersed in something as simple as looking at a house plant and the total beauty of it. Is this what you mean by awakening? Bless you as you are blessing others Angelo.
sounds like awakening to me :)
Hope Angelo's reads and replies to this, to me it sounds like unbound consciousnesses, which I'd call fertile ground for awakening
It was as if thoughts and doubts were muting my experience
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Angelo..tirelessly pointing out who and what we are! The unbinding, unraveling, the seeing thru of concepts, beliefs, Ideas of who we think we are. To arrive at , realize and truly experience who and what WE have allways been! No thing and Everything 💝🙏
So well described! 🤍
Re:foreground/background:
On retreat on a hike, the experience was of being part of consciousness and everything around me, while my thoughts felt like a separate being, walking along the side. The thoughts were peripheral, and although I guess they are a part of the bigger network, they feel so much less central than the Whole.
The effect, “this” can’t know what it is because “It” is It.
6:40 A change in being❤
The experience here has been the feeling of waking from a sleep not really a dream state but a deep sleep and having a WTF moment, as if not to recognize where I am and that the life I knew seems ridiculous
Through you and all the great speaking of this, I'M coming unbound. Thankful to hear and be. Amen❤🙏
Thank you so much Angelo. I’m extremely inspired. 🦋🌅✨
You are so welcome
I imagine the mind as a border collie in that sense that they both need a job. The mind's inclination for story (thought) is a strong force, evolutionarily rooted to help us survive. No small task to reckon with it. This morning, I woke with a heaviness in my heart. I thought, "Oh, I feel sad." Then I thought, why not refrain from labelling it and, moreover, see it not as myself having an experience, but rather just the experience itself. Maybe it's a trick, but my mind understood the brief and relished the job.
Thank you for sharing your open heart. 🙂💚🙏
Nose to nose
Rendered speechless
Heart pounding
Resistance arises
Fear motions
Sit with this
Crumpled masks of identity
Falling
Very nice indeed.
When I try to just be with sensations, I can never tell where pure sensation ends and subtle, nonverbal thought begins. Tongue in my mouth, touching teeth - doesn't seem to feel like anything unless there's at least some sort of thought attached, even if it's just some wordless familiarity of a concept. Idgi, at all.
The thought comes "there's definitely something there, in or as that sensation" but no, that's just a thought. There isn't definitely anything anywhere anytime at all.
Doubting what you say more and more every day.
I really relate to this comment!
Yeah. It’s blowing my mind.
"A ruthless presence." Nice one!
"The illusions have illusions." 🙏
Spirituality has only gotten scarier and scarier for me
Experience the fear now, enjoy the realization later 👌
@ thanks :) it’s not all bad I do feel more closer to presence
Love this! ❤😂🎉imagine being an Infinite numbers of yous… beyond the personal dimension of self!! Taken has taken off..: weeeeeya… let goooooo enjoy the ride!!
"Tink... tink... tink... thunk-pause-ahhh." and here it is ... the background (lol) now in everything.... unmistakably here, unremarkably now. Hearing as awareness, an intimate hand-holding descent into reality without a foreground or background haha. It was suddenly obvious that the ground zero of being is with eyes open or closed - attention appearing to fix itself to that for the first time . "I heard"something the other day ..."the mind needs to turn back on itself" and it did, immediately, long enough to make a mark. It is suggested that the true meaning of sin is 'to miss the mark' - what a wonderful realisation of the effortlessness at play with both hitting and missing a mark that doesn't really exist for any one and it is both known about and never known at all. Truly the first time there is a seeing of thoughts that have no 'charge' - and then there was a shift into charged thoughts and then a discharge and a neutrality. The pull to attend to this play has taken centre stage. Thank you as all-ways
❤Thank you
This one was on target.. I'm still largely mind identified.. but am definitely getting drawn towards something I can't describe.
thank you.
You're welcome
Haven’t watched your videos for some time but this one called to me. Wow Angelo you have expressed perfectly that inner shift that has just happened to me. I got to the point where I just thought I give up It’s never gonna happen I just can’t get it no matter what I do. My external circumstances created a place of letting go and that inner thing happened. It’s pointless to ramble on about how miraculous this was but big thank you for confirming exactly the process. I’ve watched videos before when you talked of this and it was incomprehensible because I couldn’t relate to something I had yet to experience. The words from A Course in Miracles came up as I listened and confirmed the Reality of the experience. “ The sense of separation from God is the only lack you really need to correct “ and “ In my defenceless my safety lies” Your clarity of expressing what can not be expressed is amazing. Hahaha Thank you from Staffordshire U.K. Your contribution is priceless 🙏🫂💚
Lol that little switch over happened to me this past weekend. A tremendous amount of okayness is here but also a tremendous amount of uncertainty and discomfort. But it's clear that the uncertainty is just there because the mind is looking for a certainty that is less certain than this lol
Thank you 🙏 for explaining it for me”me” 😂
The background and foreground seems to have merged and I'm sensing now that you can move as the background too. I'm like whaaaat?
Thank you 🙏 ❤️
You are so welcome
Suddenly I'm able to sit.
Every activity for its own sake, no distinct activities to begin with.
Nobody to define me, no distinct me to begin with
Just vivid manifestation
I feel I'm precisely at that point you described, where it's taking over. There's beauty everywhere. Lots of fear, but courage and trust too. It's all at once, really. Excitement, and holding back. A deep longing for expansion, and a primordial terror, contracting. It seems almost rhythmical, like breathing. I only wonder, and I've been curious about this since forever, is there a clear point at which this turns into something else entirely? Like a loud, cosmic pop?! Or does this only ever gradually keep deepening in this way it has so far?
Nice one 💯
The “experience” of “self” is an illusion. The Self alone is real, the supreme reality.
So helpful! Thank you, Angelo! I am connecting more and more to what you’re saying ❤such a beautiful unfolding
Hi!
Yeah. I'd say invest time into studying antahkarana and drig drishya viveka ...
Here's a silly train of thought that might be helpful:
You are what you're looking for. What you're looking for, you actually are it. Why would you ever look for what you are if you are it? Where do you look for what you are? How do you look for what you are? Then is awakening something that you do or achieve or what you also are? Do it by are-ing it? You already are are-ing it?
It's all fun & games to lose an 'I.'
Angelo what does it mean when I read a comment about a mother who loses their child because they could not pay for insulin and I ugly cry like a baby? Is that empathy or am I still hopelessly mired in reactivity? It's literally just symbols on a screen written by a person I've never met. Could even be made up.
@@JoelSemar just means you are empathic , I wouldn’t overthink it
Hey Angelo, i always hear you talk about interpenetration, curious what you mean by that? Thanks!
Yeah. 'Oh shit'. Currently studying The Moon tarot card, which is all about 'going off the map'. Getting serious and possibly a bit dangerous around here lol
On the upside, I'm coming to UK retreat!! Yay!
FINALLY I'm feeling the pull instead of the (seemingly effortful) push.
I feel like I've been flipping my polarity right along with the sun. It gets quite chaotic as the transition happens.
🥳
Thanks, Angelo. I really appreciate what you’re doing here. I have a question I’ve been curious about: Can bodhisattvas attain the state of no-self?
Anatta is certainly a prerequisite for being a Bodhisattva IMO
language is tricky...de-personalization and de-realization which is a pathology caused by trauma and anxiety seems like a counterfeit "no-self" there is no peace or bliss there , just pure terror....would you comment Angelo? thanks🙏🙏
hi how would you advise someone going through intense derealization and solipsism syndrome? i have this voice in my head that constantly says “how do you 100% know that other people are real sentient conscious beings like you?” it’s incredibly isolating and scary, as my relationships are the best part of my life (family, girlfriend, friends, etc) and this OCD-like thought is relentless. thanks
🙏🙏🙏
There's the funniest little bubble sound your lips made at 7:27 lol
4:00 🤍 6:40
Angelo, if you make me love you any more than I do now I’m just gonna 💥 pop! 😂
🎆🔥😃
So, trying to puzzle this out, something is just supposed to click at some point? If I'm not sure about it now, pretty much means I'm not there yet, then.
Such an agonizing thing to desire, geez!
What is your desire?
@@shadoZer To understand, to make sense of the world and myself.
@solid_snek Understanding is a process of solidifying conceptual ideas as valid or true. Understanding also is a relationship of subordination to those things deemed true.
Your world and your self have one aspect that is always changing and often chaotic. They also have another aspect that is constant and unchanging (i personally call this the divine aspect).
The challenge you face is that to conceptualize something requires a relational simplification. Simplifying an experience into a concept corrupts the experience. Our ego collects these corrupted past experiences and then projects them onto new current experiences.
The experience itself behind the thought is what I personally would consider awakening (awareness of awareness). Liberation from the corrupted experiences is what I would personally call enlightenment.
To make sense is something different than understanding. For something to make sense, it first has to be conceptualized (corrupted) and then it has to fit (as a conception) into a larger framework of other conceptualizations.
You might be able to cram these concepts together like puzzle pieces and reach a state of satisfaction or contentment. But these conceptualizations are vulnerable to change as new experiences come and go.
The real gift of Angelo's channel is that he is pointing to a work around. Instead of fine tuning your puzzle pieces to fit, we can let them just be puzzle pieces.
Instead of spending our attention and awareness looking for the missing puzzle pieces that make everything fit, we can surrender to the impossibility of ever recreating the world or the self within the framework of the ego-mind.
If we do make this surrender, suddenly we set down the puzzle and just connect directly to the world and the self and find out that the puzzle is already complete. Our existence (whatever we experience as existence) is our actual self. We are a puzzle piece. The puzzle is already complete.
There may not be click per se. If you already are experiencing awareness of the world and the self directly, then it will feel like more of a shift than a click. It's just a shift of awareness. If you can only see your experiences via conceptualizations, then there will be a impactful or profound difference when your awareness drops the conceptualizations.
If you need help try this: pay attention to emotions and thoughts as two different things. If you can do that you will be able to recognize that awareness is something behind (for lack of a better word)... behind the thoughts and emotions. If you can touch that awareness, you can orient your attention towards it. The more you are aware of your awareness, the more you default to staying present and transcending the thoughts and emotions as if they were just passing waves.
Hope this in some way helps. Much love.
what kind of knowing is still there when you don't give thoughts any voluntary attention as they pass by, when you drop subtle thoughts that give meaning and context to you and whatever you take your situation to be (including meditation)?
@@mikeyfinn2 Observation of thoughts is something I've tried to incorporate to practically every waking hour. To answer your question: Emptiness, Void, lack of anything, take your pick.
What I find difficult about all of this, is the uncertainty of what I'm supposed to recognize. Language seems insufficient to convey the message here.
Angelo: a lot of people using psychedelics use the term "ego death." Is this the same as the loss of self you're talking about here?
No, definitely not
Re-initiation, connected to the dead who live in me and the living who die in me - thanks to you.What a surprise in my age...lol Should i look 4 the unborn?
Thank you for being clear about this, but sometimes even you make it sound like it’s no big deal. That sounds to me like a really big deal and that as you say, quite obvious. And I know that I am not experiencing that. Even though I’ve been out this for years. I was just expressing to someone yesterday the difference between having this as an aspiration and the regular illusory goals of life, we can often have at least some inkling in our imagination what some of those other experiences are and actually hold them out to ourselves as incentive but as you say, there’s nothing that we can imagine to aim it. I guess some people have experienced this through psychedelics, which doesn’t necessarily mean that they experience it again without the drugs. Actually, no guarantee that you will experience something like that on a psychedelic trip.
Video summary: Awakening is beyond words, but Angelo's words and experience are ACTUAL no self, and your words and experiences are actually just self. haha 💩 (this is playful banter btw)
definitely going to get this comment hidden 🤣
@@mikeyfinn2 nah. More likely to be highlighted than hidden 😋
Never took that from his videos, very odd.
What can I say. I'm weird.
100% agree with you!
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He resists too much. Of course there is more, it is continuum, evolution moves forward, to regress is to become the psychosis. There is always a first who must break the illusory barrier that a final destination can be achieved. The one who breaks free must turn away from all such commentary.
He looks awful, you know how to repair the damage. Stop him from talking so much and get him to listen again 🧬
Can u awaken by disidentifying from body and mind?
Well I want it now you hear me universe give it to me now I deserve it yes you the laptop I'm staring at because you're me and the phone on my desk all of you bow to my will mua ha ha ha