What Happened To British Girl Group Honeyz? | One Member Quit 3 Times, Another Couldn't Sing At All?
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- Опубліковано 28 сер 2022
- British R&B trio Honeyz were one of the most successful acts born out of the international girl group explosion of the '90s. Formed in 1997, the group -- then comprised of Heavenli Abdi, Naima Belkhiati, and Celena Cherry -- released their hit debut single and debut album a year later. But, as soon as things started to take off, they took an immediate nose dive when one member left, (only to later come back, leave again, come back again and leave again) and another member was even rumoured to not have been able to sing at all and was only in the group because of her looks.
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Oh the Honeyz!!! As a Londoner and 90s kid, I remember them from my teen years. Memories 🥰
There 2000 single *Won't take it lying down" was huge I still hear it today
Not rival Destiny’s Child! 🤣 That was mistake #1 all their members could sing👀
Crazy! I don't know how they figured that. 😂
That was fabricated for the TV show they did in 2013, they were created because their management company's previous girl group, Eternal, were in the verge of disbanding. Plus, don't get too brave because Michelle was great for harmonizing and whatnot - but lead singing wasn't really her thing.
@@iampause I like Michelle's voice. I think one of the original members didn't have the strongest voice from DC4
@@iampause Oh god haha SO TRUE about Michelle, absolutely AWFUL lead singer. I'm a firm believer in girl groups that if everyone is to sing lead, they all should be on the same level or there abouts, everytime Michelle sang solo it's like nails down a chalk board, and Beyoncé had the nerve to say LeToya was tone deaf? But let Michelle have leads? 🤣🤣🤣🤣 LeToya clearly isn't tone deaf, but Michelle to me is.
Having said that I used to be a bit harsh on Kelle when she sang solos in Eternal songs, but appreciate her vocals a lot more now than I did in the 90s, I guess anyone being in a group with Easther and Vernie was going to struggle somewhat.
Honeyz was never poised to be a rival to Destiny's Child, it was just Big Reunion saying that. Cause LeToya alone can devour all three of them when it comes to singing. Maybe Celena can go toe to toe with her but LeToya will be the clear winner. However Naima and Farrah perhaps can battle it out... but probably will have no clear winner at that battle.
Also when Mariama started with Solid HarmoniE in 1996, they were signed in the States with Lou Pearlman who handled NYSNC and Backstreet Boys. They were poised as the female version of BSB because the music they did were very similar. They also toured with them in the 90s. After Mariama left Honeyz, she actually moved to the States to become a solo performer. She toured with O-Town who Pearlman also managed but nothing materialized on her solo career. So she moved back to London to study midwifery.
Thank you for making this! The Honeyz were so underrated and i can only imagine the success they would have had in the US if Hev didn’t leave
Thank you for going out of the states to bring stories of others groups and their dynamics.😊
I hope you can do Sugababes in the future. The ultimate girl band drama!
Had 3 lineup changes 🤣 the last one didn't have any original member left, now the original members are back.
Omg yes.! I know amelle Keisha and Heidi didn’t get along
I was a big Honeyz fan. I had a poster of the original line up on my wall. Thanks for making this video.
“Another member couldn’t sing at all” 💀💀💀. That was so shady 🤣🤣
That would be Naima🤣🤣
Definitely was looking to see who was lip singing.
Naima could hold a tune, but she wasn't a singer singer. She did the lead vocals on a track on their 2nd album called Love Is Strange.
Why are girls so catty.
@@Right_Direction_ lol she couldn’t sing at all without the help of auto tune.
check out their performance at “hit me baby one more time” Naimas mic was turned on and it really shouldn’t have been lol
Great video as always. I remember the Honeyz among a wave of girl groups in the late 90s (including Solid Harmonie, Mariama's old group, who actually had 3 top 20 hits). They had some good songs; shame that second album never quite happened though.
I've never heard of any of these people. I will look them up and at least listen to their top hits.
I remember them the debut single came out there I graduated they were a great girl group I had all the actual albums and CDs they were really good it's crazy what they went through
I love when you cover artists from this side of the Atlantic. Can you please cover Big Bro and Liberty X?
Loved them on the Big Reunion
Their unreleased single “Talk To The Hand” is PHENOMENAL and would have been a big hit
fun fact: it has vocals from heavenli, celena, and mariama 😮
I love that track. My guy Grado used to come out to it and the crowd would go bananas🤣
@@kylez3845 it also has vocals from Heidi from Sugababes, 2 other singers and Louise Redknapp did a version of it, her vocals also maybe on it.
it's already on Spotify :)
@@Right_Direction_How do you know Louise also recorded it? 😮 Now that I think about it, it would of fitted her quite well. There's Celena, Mariama, Heavenli, Heidi Range and two session singers credited for vocals, but to be honest I only hear the girls, Heidi here and there and the girl who did the demo that's here on UA-cam. I'd like to hear the first recording with Mariama, as well as Heidi's version.
You NEED to do a profile of First Avenue Records/Management and how they controlled/promoted so much Black British talent.
I had the album wonder number 8!! great video, so many changes in the group!
Another great video! 👍🏾❤😁
Hmm...Heavanli would have known in meetings/rehearsals that Naima couldn't sing😆 I think she was more put out that Celena was chosen to be front/centre. If you watch the Big Reunion, there's old school footage clips of Celena rolling her eyes at Heavanli and putting her fingers in her ears when Naima sang. Lovely songs, but immaturity and too much ego all-round (except Mariama) was the reason for their demise, imo. Great doc all round! ❤
Isn't there always at least one person in each girl group and boy band who's vocals are questionable?
Apart from En Vogue.
I still listen to Finally Found. Such an underrated classic.
it's a classic. Over here in the great ole UK, we've had a few classic chunez that our American cousins should've known about
@@blueangeloftheseas it's def a classic in the UK but unfortunately not here in America. I used to listen to it here in America as a kid in my cousins room and in her car. She even burned the cd 💿 for me so that I can listen to their album on my Walkman and I would put that song on repeat 😂😂. A lot of UK artists that have songs that are big classics in the UK that should have been big here in the US! I tend to listen to those more ☺️
@@blueangeloftheseas West Life is a band that's not popular here in the US. They had like one minor hit here called "Swear It All over Again" but they've never been successful in this country and I love a lot of their songs.
Love of a life time,I think is their best song.
@@nehsangbong7259 I love Craig David Born to Do It.
Love these stories
Have you ever heard about Brazilian Girl Group Rouge??? They were huge here and there are sooooooo much controversy through their history
Everybody not cut out to be in the music industry that's a really demanding career and a lot of people can't handle being in the spotlight like like that
Can we get S Club 7 please. I always wondered what happened to the group.
It seems they had more drama than hit singles.
5/7 singles they released were Top 10
hit singles.
@@iampause they still had more drama than hit singles.
@@AR-ii3ly All of this drama came years later when they reunited and talked about why 2 members left group.
Thank you! I knew you going their story
Good video, never heard of them.
Saying Naima couldn’t sing sounded like when Destiny’s Child became DC3.
Naima does sing on some of the tracks, but yes, Celena and Heavenli did confirm Naima was brought in because of her looks
I'm not surprised because of pretty privilege she got away with it .
Naima ain't all that Celena is the prettiest of the Honeyz
Heavenli was the Honey of the group for me.
Naima's iconic talking french bit on the album verison of Finally Found is my favourite part of any of their songs
@@gregormackenzie2434 and then it got removed for the single version
I almost fell off my chair at the Michael Jackson impersonator 💀
Me too! 😂
I was not ready for that lol
Their audition was hilarious. I don't know how Celena didn't slap her husband lol
@@Right_Direction_Thankfully she divorced from him, judging by his tweet he seems like a nightmare of a person!
great content. please do sugababes!
Honeyz was actually a revolving line up even before Celena joined. Heavenli was the first member, and they revolved around her and she had been signed with their management for at least 2-5 years before Celena joined the band. After Celena joined there was another girl named Charmaine. But she was let go because according to Celena, Charmaine was the darkest member of the group and replaced her with Naima. The follow-up album several tracks of it were recorded with Mariama but since she left, Heavenli came back to continue where the group left off. It was bizaare. Also during their tour on Australia, they used a decoy to fool the crowd from believing it was Heavenli because at that time Heav already walked out on them, and the internet named her as Fake Heav.
Wow i never knew that😲
@@djwalkerfemaledj which part you didnt know?
@@theunimpressedbeetch Everything you said
Yeah their manager removed the other girl and brought Naima in as he felt it would give them a better chance to sell music (according to Celena) and it worked when he managed Eternal having Louise there in the beginning.
Oh and fake Heav 🤣🤣🤣🤣 I can't believe they did that, more so Celena and Naima just going along with it. The stories Celena has told since about that whole situation are hilarious.
@@djwalkerfemaledj how bizarre that sounds... its all true
Do one about Gregory Abbott please.
Love these stories so much
I can't imagine leaving my OWN career for a boyfriend.🥴
The 90's was the ultimate era of the Pick Me attitude. Very different times to now and yes, a silly decision.
Me neither.
M.O.N Money Ova Niggaz
Please do Five Star!!!
Yes five star - slightest touch is a bop
Celena was definitely one of my crushes 😍
Honeyz definitely deserves more credit
Honey, you think every singer and artist deserves more credit? Why do you even say that and post it? Those lines are getting old And tired.
I hope you do more stories on Atomic Kitten and B*Witched
I hope you do stories on K-Solo, The Dove Shack, The Twinz, Luniz, Keith Murray, Ill Al Skratch, and Chino XL
I still listen to Ill Al Skratch .
Yes Keith Murray 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
Ahhh man End of the Line was my favourite still is . That was my break up song too😢
Wondering.....can you all do a video on London Jones and his one and only album: For You? It was back in the 90's.
I don't understand why they don't just regroup with Celena , Mariama, Naihma , and Heavenli and regroup as a 4 piece and put out a defintive greatest hits lp and accompanying music video dvd package with some newly recorded tracks say 5 , - one of them being a new single - i mean theres a market for 90s pop today - looks at Steps success in the UK, In the meantime they should also release the unreleased 2nd album and maybe a budget remix album, always wondered how their songs would sound with Misteeqs Sunship producers.
Heav will probably pull a Heav and quit out of nowhere
Could you do a video on the rnb group MN8,Fierce (they did a cover version of sweet love by Anita Baker)
I came across them.
I loved MN8 and enjoyed fierce too. Any word on any of them? I
Also Heavenli only walked out on them 2 times... the first was when she walked out on them in 1999, and the second one was in the summer 2015 in the eve of releasing their single "Definitely Something"... because they were doing Honeyz as an unsigned act and it was difficult for her to keep using her own money to fly from Portugal to UK to do shows. The one in 2006, she got pregnant and had no choice but to leave the band, so I'll give her that.
To be honest, the Honeyz had no chances of success when the came back both in 2005 and 2013. So I understand why Heavenli did what she had to do.
@@iampause they really had no chances during 2005, because Sugababes is booming, PCD is dominating the world, I think Girls Aloud was there too I believe. In 2013, Little Mix fanbase is very large, also The Saturdays is popular in the UK, and making noise in America as well. Fifth Harmony is also up and coming. The competition was getting younger and hip.
I used to mess with Sclub heavy lol
9:39 Wait, wasn't it said that Heavenly had RA? How is she an aerobic instructor?
Or did I mix up the names? 🤔
Heavenli is honestly one of the most beautiful looking women ever. They were never right when she left, as much as I love Mariama we knew one another quite well back then, absolutely lovely girl, had a hellish time in the group, she never really settled in, the chemistry was off, it's unfortunate when Heavenli came back, instead of Celena and Naima grabbing the 2nd chance with both hands, Celena particularly didn't make it easy for Heavenli who came back to a very hostile work environment, Celena as talented as she is unfortunately blames everything on Heavenli without taking any accountability for her own behaviour. They truly could have gone onto great things, but could never keep it together for very long.
I agree with you, however all of these black R&B groups had such short shelf lives. I even noticed this at the time as a kid. Who gave Mariama a hard time? Btw is she Moroccan?
@@user-dv3kq3rm4h Naima and Mariama didn't get on at all from day 1 and it got worse as it went on. Naima is Moroccan and grew up in France, Mariama is of Indian descent I believe both her parents are from that region.
It's the first time I disagree with you, but I feel like they had more chances of mainstream success when Mariama came in. I always felt like Heavenli had no charisma or stage presence, Mariama on the other hand had both and was a better vocalist and dancer than her. 'Won't Take It Lying Down' was their peak.
@@iampause We can always disagree my friend, it's rare when we do that's for sure.
I loved Heavenli, I think she brought a level of sophistication to the group and a great unique voice, with Mariama they were more polished for sure, much more commercial looking and sounding, but I felt they just became like any other girl group at that stage, all singing, all dancing, all smiling, which isn't bad of course and I still loved them, but I felt the essence of the Honeyz and what set them apart went with Heavenli and the chemistry was a bit off with Mariama for me, and Mariama always used to love joking with me that Heavenli is my fave 🤣🤣🤣.
But I can't disagree with you about the commercial appeal with Mariama V Heavenli, though their biggest singles were with Hev (the first 2), Love of a lifetime is my fave song by them, but again I can't disagree with won't take it lying down being their peak, it's a bop for sure, I always felt talk to the hand was a perfect follow up for that, it would have been a big hit had they got it released and promoted properly.
Can you do a video on the British girl group the 411
Can you do a video on girl group Kleshay? Celena's sister was in this band
Never heard of them but let me listen to this...
Good video do a story of MN8's story they were a phenomenal black British boy band
No they weren’t. 🤣
@@AR-ii3ly everybody is entitled to their opinion, l love MN8 ❤️ and is proud American fan 👏🏾
They had a few good songs. I remember I had their poster on my wall.
It's been done by "stephsayso" look her up here.
Phenomenal? Lol ok
I would not say that they were hugely successful, plus, their album only peaked at number 33 in UK, but I remember falling instantly in love with Finally found and End of the line and absolutely loved the production of Won't taking it lying down. These kind of bands don't really last long, unfortunately, because they are young and have ambitions of their own (I mean look at Geri leaving the Spice Girls in the middle of the world tour, that was tragic and disrespectful). Eternal had the similar story, I believe, which is why they ditched from the US market. I think Honeyz would've had one hit in US and then would fade away. Mis-Teeq had a good chance, but a similar story, I believe?!
Heavinly is someone you don't want to be a friend
I have never heard of this group, but it would have enhanced the video if at least small snippets of the songs that were mentioned were played. Maybe I would have recognized a song, or found a song that I would have liked. It would also give people who aren't familiar with the group a chance to hear their overall sound. Just my two cents.....
Check out 'Wont Take it Lying Down', 'Love of a Lifetime' and 'Finally Found' by them.
Check out the end of the line
Also check out Talk To The Hand
Was the video posted before?
Their story sounds so familiar, but I guess that’s the nature of girl groups.
It seems like it right? Girl groups and their drama. 🤷🏽♀️😂
Can you do The Dream of J.Holiday? Especially J.Holiday cause he dropped Bed and just disappeared
Seems just like Farrah in Destiny's Child she was in it because of her looks
Her Light Eyes & Youthful face.
Why try to get a girl group to compete with another girl group
Neva heard of 'em
Who?? I don't remember them
Never heard any of them
A story on rap group The Coup would be very interesting
As soon as you said “Another member couldn’t sing at all”, I immediately knew it was the yt/non-Black
😬
2/4 Honeyz can sing, Celena and Mariama. But I guess that Heavenli and Naima's voices aren't so bad.
@@iampause Heavenli did pretty much all of their background vocals on Wonder No8, she had a great voice.
@@Right_Direction_ She had some highlights on that album, and she did some singing and rapping on it - but not necessarily all of the background vocals and harmonies. Celena's voice was layered a good amount of times so they could get harmonies, thus said by Celena herself - they'd also use session singers (like the one you hear on the first three Honeyz singles) so the songs could sound more proper vocal-wise. Heavenli doesn't have a bad voice, but she bragged too much about Naima during The Big Reunion - when in reality their vocal range wasn't so different. In my opinion, Mariama was what the group needed - a great singer, great dancer and great personality/charisma.
@@iampause I think both Celena and Heavenli had their vocals doubled and tripled on pretty much every song. If you listen to songs like Seems Like, Somebody To Love Me, Good Love, Just Let Go, Wonder No8, Love of a lifetime most of those vocals are Heavenli doing the bass and alto and mezzo-soprano, she has a very distinctive voice, reminds me a lot of T-Boz or Kandi from XScape with a touch of Sade, it's a very similar tone and range to Sade. Celena is more dominant on Do Me Baby, What does she look like (only her vocals are on it), In the Street, Finally Found. Steve Levine who co wrote and produced most of the vocals on that album said that Heavenli did a bulk of all the background work, that's why you also hear a drastic difference in their sound to the tracks Mariama was on, they did have additional singers on some songs to balance it out, they even kept Mariama's vocals on the 2nd album tracks and just added Heavenli, several tracks you can hear both of them.
Heavenli didn't sound so good on the big reunion show, trying to shout too much, I don't know why.
If you listen to finally Found, End Of the Line and Love of a lifetime on their album "The collection" they are the demo versions on there, much more stripped back and you can really hear how dominant Heavenli was in their backgrounds, i think she and Celena complemented one another so well.
OMG
Never heard of em
The messy drama of it all!
My Take: They all hated Naima cos she was smoking... and I mean SMOKING... hot. Heavenli was the messiest of all, Celena was probably pretty chill and Mariama was insecure around Naima to
Imagine the utter stupidity that causes someone to name their child 'heavenly'? It is to imagine that people will take it that the child is better somehow than everyone else. And is such a daft name. Come on people!
All these line up changes... I am just confused..
YAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWNNNNNNNN
Sounds like something that shoulda never happened 🤔.
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For Americans, the nearest comparison is 3LW 😉
Hell no!
Oh no you didn't! 😂
How insulting to the Honeyz LOL. Though people used to say the original Sugababes were the UK equivalent of 3LW which used to piss me off.
@@Right_Direction_ Kiely could never!
@@iampause 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 exactly.
Got in the group if they wasn't serious about it wasting them people time and money when you in a group is not all about you it's about other people too and if you're not going to play your part then you shouldn't be in a group wasting people's time and money and wasting talent when you know you can't sing .
I gotta say I think 90% of there music was awful😂 but they had some bops like Wonder#8, Won't take it lying down n In the Street.
Finally Found, End of the Line, Love of a Lifetime, Never Let You Down and Won't Take It Lying Down awful? Mmh, I think it's you, sir!
I don't remember this group
British Music could never compare to American Music 🤷♀️. American women look sexier and don’t have an annoying accent.
Never heard of them
Me neither, but I know All Saints and Cleopatra.
THEY WERE MEANT TO TAKE ON DESTINYS CHILD!? LMAO
Why did most of the British Soul Groups had dead awful songs? Exceptions that come to mind are Incognito, Soul II Soul, and Loose Ends.
I'd say the production would be the factor
They were trying so hard to sound American. S2S and Loose Ends were trailblazers.
Nah man, not true at all
UK labels never take UK Soul and r&b seriously. They don't get the right backing and are messed around by executives, A&Rs and managers. Often they are sent to America to get the exact production the yanks have or to show more skin, tits and ass - changing their whole style. This is what happened to Cleopatra.
Lol . I think it’s tricky for UK acts trying to do RnB. They usually start of that way then eventually go pop . RnB in the UK, unlike the US , I think doesn’t have its own charts or huge fan base. To sell records in the UK as an RnB artist you have to eventually go pop . Look at Craig David or JLS for example. Also UK RnB groups understandably have a hard time trying to conquer the US RnB scene because who wants to listen to Craig David when you’ve got Joe, Jodeci or R.Kelly to choose from lol. Hence you get shitty songs masquerading as RnB e.g East 17’s cover of US RnB group Shai song ‘If I ever fall in love a again ‘. What a travesty. They murdered that song.
Nope never heard of em
Me neither.
so pretty much this was another millie vanilli situation!!!???
Celina was the lead vocalist so most of the times Naima had only to sing the chorus along with Heavenli, and when she would have a solo it would always be an easy part to sing.
No, Naima does a lot of singing on the album tracks.
Naima did sing on the tracks, but she wasn't a singer singer, she could hold a tune. She did a full lead on a song called Love Is Strange on their 2nd album, basic vocals but not unpleasant.
@@_AceReject They had 2 albums, the 2nd one was called Harmony that got shelved, it leaked online the following year, it got officially released on streaming and iTunes a couple of years ago but it's been on UA-cam and all over the internet since 2002.
@@Right_Direction_ There wasn't a UA-cam in 2002.
First
Take on destiny child!🤣😂🤣🤣😂🤣🤔
I always thought they were a mediocre group tbh.
Only two look black. Or one, a biracial, two others, and celina's sister....
Celena*
Celena and Heavenli are black, Mariama is half black and half Indian. Naima is obviously white.
@@iampause Naima Belkhiati isn't a white name. She's North African, some comments say Moroccan.
@@poppinc8145 Oh yeah, I know that now. She's half moroccan, her mom is.
🙋🏾♂️ And I thought the girls from Xcape was ugly. They're close, neck and neck with them.
What do you look like? They are beautiful stop the hating
🙋🏾♂️ So if someone makes a comment that another person doesn't agree with is called "hating?" Interesting 🤔 So if I say Lizzo is obese is that hating too?
@@I_Love_my_adblock4408 no its the truth she looks like the shit emoji
@@neshapayne3166 Exactly lol
All 4 Honeyz members are stunning. Xscape I give you that, apart from Kandi she's sexy AF.