HOW THE MASTERMIND BEHIND MILLI VANILLI EXPLOITED BLACK ARTISTS

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  • @BLACKFEMININITYTV
    @BLACKFEMININITYTV  3 роки тому +1168

    If you guys have noticed, there are two intros. The extended one will be used for documentaries & the short one is for regular topics.

    • @winehousted90
      @winehousted90 3 роки тому +63

      I really love this channel the documentaries that you out together are just perfect all I wanna do is see more content from you 👌🏿

    • @SimplisticallyDigital
      @SimplisticallyDigital 3 роки тому +13

      I noticed.

    • @BlakeGildaphish76
      @BlakeGildaphish76 3 роки тому +24

      The intro is gorgeous!

    • @ElaineLoyd
      @ElaineLoyd 3 роки тому +15

      I can't wait to see how your channel grows and your content improves you have got a personality and talent for this. And you don't be in drama how you do that lol

    • @hyperboi87
      @hyperboi87 3 роки тому +8

      I love that first one the most, I got my lil dance I do when it come on

  • @TheGListed2
    @TheGListed2 3 роки тому +3128

    Milli Vanilli lost their careers while Jennifer Lopez keeps extending her “singing” career.

    • @bgcrp2005
      @bgcrp2005 3 роки тому +42

      Jlo didn’t completely lip song

    • @mustanggang5.0
      @mustanggang5.0 3 роки тому +332

      J Lo used hip-hop to extend her career for that short period. I still believe if Selena never passed that she could have been the one to break the music barrier for Latin- hip hop

    • @CDGalore
      @CDGalore 3 роки тому +37

      the stories of Milli Vanilli and JLo are absolutely nothing alike, she actually sings. She has credited background singers and sings over their vocals but that is not remotely the same as lip synching to someone else vocals backgrounds AND lead

    • @fantasea4460
      @fantasea4460 3 роки тому +47

      Fr. They even tried to do their OWN but failed. People loved their personalities so idk why they were so quick to cancel them

    • @tearialfrierson1613
      @tearialfrierson1613 3 роки тому +62

      Exactly I remember when this happened there was no real anger at Frank Farian he did them really wrong. People were burning the cds and everything just doing too much.

  • @thechefette3701
    @thechefette3701 3 роки тому +1177

    Meanwhile J lo out here thriving with Ashanti and Christina Milian’s vocals

    • @Thespeedrap
      @Thespeedrap 3 роки тому +37

      Very wrong this world is messed up.

    • @najimaeljalti2937
      @najimaeljalti2937 3 роки тому +27

      Sooo unfair.😨

    • @relaxingtonuniversity5053
      @relaxingtonuniversity5053 3 роки тому +15

      When I found that out I’m like now this shit is real

    • @relaxingtonuniversity5053
      @relaxingtonuniversity5053 3 роки тому +2

      When I found that out I’m like now this shit is real

    • @okolopierre7504
      @okolopierre7504 3 роки тому +50

      Say that shit girl ! I AM SO TIRED OF HER GETTING ALL THIS PRAISE FOR BEING A GOOD SINGER. SHE DOESNT SING ANY OF HER SONGS ! And she tried to steal ONE THING from Amerie but Aneries producer leaked it to the radio before she could steal it......

  • @dasiareed8922
    @dasiareed8922 3 роки тому +1398

    The fact that they wanted to give the Grammy to the actual voices behind their songs takes courage and respect

    • @timmy841212
      @timmy841212 3 роки тому +32

      I agree!

    • @sandrasanders706
      @sandrasanders706 3 роки тому +26

      They should have..

    • @myathegrandma
      @myathegrandma 3 роки тому +48

      @@sandrasanders706 they wanted to but before they could they were stripped from the Grammys.

    • @macewbee
      @macewbee 3 роки тому +2

      Agreed

    • @sashagarcia8478
      @sashagarcia8478 3 роки тому +33

      Those young guys were being honest and I respect that.

  • @divinesavior9538
    @divinesavior9538 3 роки тому +1162

    “They were poor, so they took the offer.” THIS IS HOW FACTS SHOULD BE GIVEN. 😭😂

    • @Svetlana-says-it-as-it-is.
      @Svetlana-says-it-as-it-is. 3 роки тому +156

      I think it was more the fact that they were desperate for fame and surely the money was very good.

    • @divinesavior9538
      @divinesavior9538 3 роки тому +113

      SvetlanaLaves Saysitasitis They were probably desperate for fame with the belief that it would change their financial situation dramatically...because they were poor. So they took the offer.

    • @BLACKFEMININITYTV
      @BLACKFEMININITYTV  3 роки тому +169

      I mean those were their own words. 💀

    • @starcherry6814
      @starcherry6814 3 роки тому +67

      @@Svetlana-says-it-as-it-is. He paid their bills. Imo he gave them no choice. He said to either pay it back or lip sync

    • @NANotApplicable
      @NANotApplicable 3 роки тому +13

      Lmao I was pouring a glass of milk when she said that and I turned and said "whatthehayell?!" Bahaha facts

  • @milamnwalker4801
    @milamnwalker4801 3 роки тому +676

    Milli Vanilli is a CLEAR example of how wicked and evil the entertainment industry is. Imagine the same people who forced you to lip-sync to make money off of you, also condemned you for lip syncing, and then stripes you of all of your accolades.
    Shaaaaaady!! 🤦🏾‍♀️

    • @MsTeo91
      @MsTeo91 3 роки тому +57

      Exactly the music industry is modern day slavery

    • @fabuloushearthrob
      @fabuloushearthrob 3 роки тому +40

      The most shady thing nobody dare to say anything about Clive Davis...

    • @iceitupgsv
      @iceitupgsv 3 роки тому +6

      Nobody forced them to sign the contract, they saw the money and fame too, you gotta the right question 🧐

    • @CandanceOnline
      @CandanceOnline 3 роки тому +25

      Yuppie GSV They were forced into doing it rather you believe it or not i could give a fuck , but when someone is telling your ass to do something especially since they done gave you money & paid off some of your bills i think that's been forced & bullied .

    • @art.of.verser
      @art.of.verser 3 роки тому +14

      @@CandanceOnline exactly! The whole situation could've clearly been avoided to begin with had Frank not forced Fab and Rob to lip sync. He basically made it a complete farce out of them and no one was the wiser. Rob had a point regarding the duo's MTV performance in a later interview. He definitely had a wonderful singing voice on him.

  • @messiahblack4816
    @messiahblack4816 3 роки тому +896

    One of THE saddest stories in the entertainment industry

    • @zed4643
      @zed4643 3 роки тому +113

      Arizona Fire Ent it’s sad because they were exploited, pretty much forced into it because they had no money. After they were found out to be frauds, it took a toll on Rob and he died of an overdose.

    • @zed4643
      @zed4643 3 роки тому +24

      RKELLYSCOCO forced as in, if they didn’t comply, they would be homeless. They didn’t even have a place to stay.

    • @zed4643
      @zed4643 3 роки тому +23

      RKELLYSCOCO they signed a 10 song a year contract that stated that if they don’t lip sync, they would face legal consequences. They trusted Frank Farian but he had bad intentions. Didn’t you watch the video at all?

    • @michaelking2449
      @michaelking2449 3 роки тому +1

      RKELLYSCOCO right

    • @ladyrias5183
      @ladyrias5183 3 роки тому +2

      RKELLYSCOCO didn’t the OP say that frank lent them 4000 dollars, and he said if you don’t do this you’d have to pay it back ? Isn’t that loosely on the terms of being forced since if they didn’t do what he said they would be in debt and homeless... lol idk

  • @BeasleySays
    @BeasleySays 3 роки тому +817

    How come we didn't give Jennifer Lopez the same treatment we gave Milli Vinilli?

    • @MONET8iAM
      @MONET8iAM 3 роки тому +65

      Because the world has only recently become more sensitive and prone to call things out. J Lo is brought up all the time on twitter and there are many youtube videos about it. At the same time “cancel culture” is selective and fake, and I feel like most of her music in recent years is more Latin based so it’s hard to say that her music career can be dismantled.

    • @rosalindgentry3295
      @rosalindgentry3295 3 роки тому +11

      I see Jlo name coming up a lot never knew she lip sync someone else sung.

    • @BeasleySays
      @BeasleySays 3 роки тому +3

      MONET8iAM you are very spot on!

    • @thechefette3701
      @thechefette3701 3 роки тому +46

      Because they layer her voice over the verses. Milli vanilli didn’t sing a single note on the track. J lo exploited a loophole

    • @dundee6402
      @dundee6402 3 роки тому +15

      She used different ghost singers on her verses, but she still sings on her songs. Here it's two cardboard cutouts of "singers" backed by actual singers that always stayed in the shadow. Different types of shady exploitation.

  • @chocolatebarbie7398
    @chocolatebarbie7398 3 роки тому +859

    They were so ahead of time ......... with the crochet braids🤦🏾‍♀️🤣🤣😭😭😭😭

    • @ebbie0074
      @ebbie0074 3 роки тому +150

      I was like okay sad story but who did homeboys hair.

    • @chocolatebarbie7398
      @chocolatebarbie7398 3 роки тому +55

      Ebbie 007 what you say 🤣🤦🏾‍♀️ I was locked in the whole time like .... sir your hair is litttt 🥰😭🤣🤣

    • @chocolatebarbie7398
      @chocolatebarbie7398 3 роки тому +6

      The Naked Truth Report thanks 😊 love 💕

    • @chocolatebarbie7398
      @chocolatebarbie7398 3 роки тому +11

      Peach Macabre right them eyes ...... ooouuuu Lawd ... cause it wasn’t the singing 🎤 bless they heart ❤️

    • @timmy841212
      @timmy841212 3 роки тому +18

      Fab said the hair was wigs. 😂

  • @BlakeGildaphish76
    @BlakeGildaphish76 3 роки тому +482

    Frank wanted to be a Black entertainer. He had the musical gift, but he knew that his looks wouldn't cut it. So he hired Black entertainers to be the face and he swindled them. i had NO idea about Boney M.
    i always thought that was Bobby's group.

    • @sandrasanders706
      @sandrasanders706 3 роки тому +26

      Didnt know about Boney M, either..one of my fav groups..wow this Fabrain guy should have been prosecuted for perpetrating a scam..

    • @msbcheet6041
      @msbcheet6041 2 роки тому +9

      Frank couldn't sing. No talent there.

    • @jenniferandrade120
      @jenniferandrade120 2 роки тому +5

      This is too real and very Black Mirror shit of Frank.

    • @MyenoB
      @MyenoB 2 роки тому +2

      Wow, I was 11-year old when Boney M. came and I began collecting their music, but it was already clear to me who sang the Male vocals and who were the two women who did sing and who was the one who didn't sing -on the recordings. The REAL LIVE Concerts (like in Dublin, Sun City etc), they all sang LIVE including Bobby and Maizie (but Frank didn't), in the Playback Concerts and TV-shows they didn't sing LIVE at all: only Mimed, in the Semi-Live Playback Concerts they all sang on top of the Full Playback Vocals. After disbanding they formed their own groups an continued shows/concerts with the same variatiing methods, depending of the needds of Venue/circumstances.

  • @immature1990
    @immature1990 3 роки тому +526

    Milli Vanilli scandal still ranks as one of the most shocking moments in music history and it was sad how one of the members took his own life and it’s sad how the producer used them and took advantage of them and fired them once they had no use to him

    • @charetacanady3588
      @charetacanady3588 3 роки тому +12

      Right, Frank took advantage of them all. They were young and nieve but good guys though. If it wasn't Rob & Fab he would have found other guys to use. Because it was all in his plans from the beginning.

    • @shaybaker5165
      @shaybaker5165 3 роки тому +9

      He didn’t take his own life, he tried to but failed. Eventually he ended up dying of a drug overdose.

    • @LikaLaruku
      @LikaLaruku Рік тому +1

      I feel like the producer should have done jail time, because his silence & silencing others about him being the real mastermind definitely lead to that suicide.

    • @gamerincorporated154
      @gamerincorporated154 Рік тому +1

      ​@@shaybaker5165 exactly. Do your homework before commenting.

  • @houseorhome2774
    @houseorhome2774 3 роки тому +266

    *Ashanti has entered the chat*
    *JLo has left the chat*

  • @TheNazUchiha
    @TheNazUchiha 3 роки тому +964

    Frank obviously set them up for failure and Rob committed suicide because of this . Sad what happened to him .

    • @thataurus2492
      @thataurus2492 3 роки тому +91

      Well Fab stated Rob made it clear he wanted to be forever young yes depression and demons were part of it but he didn't wanna live pass 32

    • @TheNazUchiha
      @TheNazUchiha 3 роки тому +34

      @@thataurus2492 oh damn . 😶

    • @TheNazUchiha
      @TheNazUchiha 3 роки тому +10

      @John Edwards Yeah they did that too and got their grammys revoked .

    • @stacyr4768
      @stacyr4768 3 роки тому +16

      He committed suicide or his drug use got the best of him ?

    • @flowerofthesouth
      @flowerofthesouth 3 роки тому +24

      @@stacyr4768 It was suspected alcohol and prescription drug overdose also it was ruled
      accidental apparently

  • @Soloscreationz
    @Soloscreationz 3 роки тому +345

    The intro always makes me feel I'm watching a favorite 90s show and I'm back in the 90s 😎😁

  • @TheLeah2344
    @TheLeah2344 3 роки тому +486

    Milli Vanilla weren’t the only ones who were lip synching back then. They were just the first to be exposed.

    • @williamgalloway4063
      @williamgalloway4063 3 роки тому +16

      Speaking all FACT!!!!! Lol

    • @Will-rv8pf
      @Will-rv8pf 3 роки тому +25

      Yeah but they lip synced over someone else’s vocals, that’s different

    • @shaybaker5165
      @shaybaker5165 3 роки тому +13

      @@Will-rv8pf that’s what Jennifer Lopez did, she lip synced over Ashanti’s vocals

    • @Traxploitation
      @Traxploitation 3 роки тому +9

      Absolutely true. They were not the first...ghost singers or "dubbers" have been around since the early days of Hollywood "talkies" and musicals.
      They weren't even the most successful...C+C Music Factory sold far more copies with Zelma Davies miming to performances by the excellent Martha Wash.
      I made a documentary on Boney M, Milli Vanilli and all the other examples of this type of thing, including Martha Wash, Black Box, Technotronic, Phil Spector, Marni Nixon etc...
      Here's part 2 which picks up pretty much where this video ends...
      ua-cam.com/video/431EVSOoYQM/v-deo.html

    • @gantroy
      @gantroy 2 роки тому +1

      I heard Bananarama were caught, too. But they weren't ridiculed for it.

  • @starcherry6814
    @starcherry6814 3 роки тому +379

    Producers set them up for failure
    They had to know lip syncing would only get them so far

    • @starcherry6814
      @starcherry6814 3 роки тому +45

      I don't think Frank wanted them to succeed
      Because he didn't credit the REAL singers and didn't trust Milli Vanilli to make their own music
      He wanted to use them for 15mins of fame and then drop them

    • @Tristan11406
      @Tristan11406 3 роки тому +3

      Star Cherry it was all a money grab

    • @janayxx4057
      @janayxx4057 3 роки тому +1

      They got away with it in England i am in my 30s and only just found out via this documentary that the male act in boney M was not singing his parts
      Boney M was and is a big deal in Europe I am guessing he thought he could do it bigger and better for his second act

  • @moxyfoxy3556
    @moxyfoxy3556 3 роки тому +289

    they look so uncomfortable accepting those awards

  • @ElaineLoyd
    @ElaineLoyd 3 роки тому +275

    The one thing you learn consistently from these music stories is you gotta read.

    • @j.kirkpatrick1919
      @j.kirkpatrick1919 3 роки тому +37

      Forreal. Ppl just be signing an smiling. Chileeeeee

    • @realnettieb
      @realnettieb 3 роки тому +33

      Or the lesson is ... your nothing but a product to a huge company . Your dreams don’t matter just how they fit in the scope of SHOW BUSINESS

    • @lavonnealexander6936
      @lavonnealexander6936 3 роки тому +19

      Yes, read because if you ask questions, especially when the person is a fucking fraud. They will tell you something different, so please read. This goes for anything.

  • @bbrown333
    @bbrown333 3 роки тому +700

    I mean....this is still happening. All of the Black American R&B and Gospel singers are completely imitated by others and thrown away as unimportant or not commercially viable despite laying the foundation for the sound.

    • @MartyNotes
      @MartyNotes 3 роки тому +44

      Hit the hammer 🔨 on the nail

    • @CerciRodriguez
      @CerciRodriguez 3 роки тому +31

      Yup decades later and it's still happening, but the labels know better now not to get caught.

    • @kindred42
      @kindred42 3 роки тому +27

      Coughs @ Kpop

    • @ladyluck7481
      @ladyluck7481 3 роки тому +10

      @@kindred42 Hell to the yeah... they will fizzle.. They are trying to make them "stick" but they just don't have the "It factor".

    • @LS-lt1zl
      @LS-lt1zl 3 роки тому +1

      Nothing but the truth

  • @pennypillow4445
    @pennypillow4445 3 роки тому +316

    the real singers had the voice but milli vanilli had the stage presence

    • @timmy841212
      @timmy841212 3 роки тому +23

      Definitely.

    • @eternaloutlaw2634
      @eternaloutlaw2634 3 роки тому +17

      Just say looks.

    • @lunaninja168
      @lunaninja168 3 роки тому +6

      How could you know, he was never given the chance to sing HIS song. For all we know he could be an amazing performer.

    • @shimeicareaves
      @shimeicareaves 3 роки тому +1

      @@lunaninja168 he did he was to ugly so nobody did not want to hear him

    • @mikekaraoke
      @mikekaraoke 3 роки тому +3

      Bullshit, They also had the voice hence why Frank said they could sing on the next album
      And also they did sing live infront of the press with the press then clapping

  • @anniem.670
    @anniem.670 3 роки тому +532

    So sad that they were used like that, people are really horrible. They were seriously gorgeous as hell and could have been amazing models. Black is so fuckn beautiful however it gets abused way to often.

    • @iceitupgsv
      @iceitupgsv 3 роки тому +5

      Wtf you mean, they made shit ton of money for basically doing nothing. They just happened to be black, nodoby forced them to sign.

    • @isaiahbangura4421
      @isaiahbangura4421 3 роки тому +28

      @@iceitupgsv they made 11 cents per record. Favian paid for everything and he gave them an untimatum: either pay back all the money or lip sync

    • @iceitupgsv
      @iceitupgsv 3 роки тому +2

      @@isaiahbangura4421 well they never were part of any record so that's justified, but I'm sure they made made a lot of money with their shows

    • @isaiahbangura4421
      @isaiahbangura4421 3 роки тому +18

      @@iceitupgsv They barely made anything. Favian paid everything and gave them an ultimatum: pay me back or lip sync

    • @iceitupgsv
      @iceitupgsv 3 роки тому

      @@isaiahbangura4421 they sacrified everything for the fame lol, their fault

  • @ditavoncheese1680
    @ditavoncheese1680 3 роки тому +178

    No lie, these beautiful men are regularly on my mind. They didn't deserve what happened to them. RIP Rob...

  • @therealkenj98
    @therealkenj98 3 роки тому +618

    Only a sick individual would do something like this to people! This was some sorta experiment. Wow.

    • @CerciRodriguez
      @CerciRodriguez 3 роки тому +61

      It's still being done today. Look who are getting #1 songs and awards. The labels have learned to maneuver and not get caught now.

    • @Tkimba2
      @Tkimba2 3 роки тому +10

      @@CerciRodriguez exactly people like Rihanna, Nicky Minaj, etc

    • @CerciRodriguez
      @CerciRodriguez 3 роки тому +40

      @@Tkimba2 I don't know about Nicki Minaj, the music industry has it out for her. She's been in the industry for over 13 years and she never received #1 records nor grammy awards, so Nicki is not an artist pulling a Milli Vanilli. And she actually writes her own raps.

    • @Tkimba2
      @Tkimba2 3 роки тому +2

      @@CerciRodriguez well she didnt get em because she dont deserve em

    • @AdoseofAlana_
      @AdoseofAlana_ 3 роки тому

      And he continued to profit multiple times over smh

  • @brifromnyc4271
    @brifromnyc4271 3 роки тому +138

    R.I.P. to Melanie of La Bouche💯

  • @Greenteajester
    @Greenteajester 3 роки тому +149

    Idk if it’s just me but I LOVE watching the intro like-
    I like it a lot.

    • @JasmineB
      @JasmineB 3 роки тому +6

      I sing along to the oh yes part every video lmaoooo

    • @audrafolkes5978
      @audrafolkes5978 Рік тому

      Indeed it brings back memories

  • @ertfgghhhh
    @ertfgghhhh 3 роки тому +688

    No. He exploited HOUSE MUSIC that originated out of chi town and ny. The europeans used black people to recreate black music in europe and RENAME it. Cultural appropriation. They swear out they started the genre when it was house music all along

    • @vol.9543
      @vol.9543 3 роки тому +105

      Don’t forget about Detroit. More techno tho.

    • @mochabarbie3764
      @mochabarbie3764 3 роки тому +88

      Yep. They done it with almost every other genre black ppl have created. It's sad honestly

    • @ertfgghhhh
      @ertfgghhhh 3 роки тому +35

      @@vol.9543 Yep. And techno and house are the same thang

    • @JD-zw5os
      @JD-zw5os 3 роки тому +14

      Yeeeeaaaasss! You should hear their radio stations chat their shite. I heard once a docu state that jazz was actually created by a Jewish fella 😮😮

    • @ertfgghhhh
      @ertfgghhhh 3 роки тому +44

      @@JD-zw5os lol. Csn u believe that they even hijack the word "karen". Now they call us karens when we complain about them without understanding almost ALL of them are karens. The privilege is exceeding

  • @seasonsofus
    @seasonsofus 3 роки тому +95

    I’m just surprised that no television networks have sought the opportunity to make a Milli Vanilli biopic

    • @staciegreene2262
      @staciegreene2262 3 роки тому +8

      Everyone doesn’t need a Biopic. TV Now Only Destroy Biopics Anyway

    • @gantroy
      @gantroy 2 роки тому +1

      I love you, Lanisha Cole! 😍 Lol

    • @gantroy
      @gantroy 2 роки тому +5

      @@staciegreene2262 I can see this one being interesting, if done right. Both men, coming from their respective backgrounds, struggling, but confident in their star potential and then being offered a deal from the Devil. I'd watch it.

    • @mowthpeece1
      @mowthpeece1 4 місяці тому

      There is one. It's coming out of Germany. Already in theaters there.

  • @crystalleyvonne818
    @crystalleyvonne818 3 роки тому +80

    Every time I hear their story it makes me sad all over again.

  • @Soloscreationz
    @Soloscreationz 3 роки тому +162

    Oop so milli vanilli wasn't his first lip syncing group

  • @SagittariusQueen1980
    @SagittariusQueen1980 3 роки тому +159

    My mom had a Boney M album on vinyl back in the day. She bought it a couple of years before I was born. I definitely remember Milli Vanilli scandal, I laughed at it as a kid, until one of the members took his own life, you just don't know what someone is going through in their lives.

  • @cashandtheecity
    @cashandtheecity 3 роки тому +134

    Chileee They Crawled So Alot Of These Artist Today Can Walk... They Walked So Half The Artist Can Run

    • @timmy841212
      @timmy841212 3 роки тому +11

      True. And they got used and abused. They REALLY wanted to use their own vocals! Fuck Frank Farian. RIP Rob Pilatus.

    • @cashandtheecity
      @cashandtheecity 3 роки тому +7

      @@timmy841212 Yeah I Feel Bad... They Got Ridiculed And Judged Just For Years Later Artist Come And Do The Same Thing And Get Props And Praises For It...

  • @LikaLaruku
    @LikaLaruku Рік тому +6

    The face of the band takes all hate & scandal, while the real villain behind the curtain gets off scott free.
    Rob & Fab were so handsome, I never got rid of my posters.

  • @ihatemenforaliving1250
    @ihatemenforaliving1250 3 роки тому +94

    The intro is soo good it makes me feel im back in the 90's when tho i wasnt even alive back then

    • @philadelphian7814
      @philadelphian7814 3 роки тому +9

      Its moreso late 80s but I hear you though

    • @MsAngelaSunshine
      @MsAngelaSunshine 3 роки тому +2

      @@philadelphian7814 No, some of the footage in the intro is from the 90's.

    • @unfazedjae2645
      @unfazedjae2645 3 роки тому +2

      Early 90s then

    • @philadelphian7814
      @philadelphian7814 3 роки тому +1

      @@unfazedjae2645 idk I feel like the R&B sound kinda evolved from this sound in the 90s. Sorta like the way SWV defined early 90s

    • @msbcheet6041
      @msbcheet6041 2 роки тому +2

      Sounds like 80s, and yes it's a GREAT INTRO

  • @sentelnbalivebolton7399
    @sentelnbalivebolton7399 3 роки тому +198

    Hey or if you ask me Milli Vanilli they deserve those Grammy they was dancing their ass off I mean really look how many people lip sing nowadays

    • @sandrasanders706
      @sandrasanders706 3 роки тому +8

      Which is true..

    • @j.kirkpatrick1919
      @j.kirkpatrick1919 3 роки тому +10

      Grammys are for music not dancing so there’s that

    • @sentelnbalivebolton7399
      @sentelnbalivebolton7399 3 роки тому +6

      @Charlene Warren I know but it goes along performance....people now a days can even do that

    • @simoneboss1955
      @simoneboss1955 3 роки тому +2

      I agree that was cruel to take the awards back

  • @fiftykillerslady
    @fiftykillerslady 3 роки тому +126

    Barely started but i already want more on this topic.

    • @Charmedsas1
      @Charmedsas1 3 роки тому +2

      Yeah...there's a behind the music documentary about it, I think its on youtube. I'm not sure.

    • @fiftykillerslady
      @fiftykillerslady 3 роки тому +2

      @@Charmedsas1 thx, i'll check it out🙌🏾

  • @jenlewis4382
    @jenlewis4382 3 роки тому +124

    In Living Color did the best Milli Vanilli infomercial.

    • @thataurus2492
      @thataurus2492 3 роки тому +12

      And hey Arnold lol

    • @toonmama6
      @toonmama6 3 роки тому +13

      I remember Milli Vanilli even talked about how their gimmick was over after seeing them being made fun of on In Living Color...crazy!

    • @timmy841212
      @timmy841212 3 роки тому +8

      @@toonmama6 Yeah Fab said they were having a party at their house when he turned on the TV. As soon as he saw it, he yelled for everyone to shut up. After they watched, Rob looked at Fab and said "it's over!"

    • @jenbunny1984
      @jenbunny1984 3 роки тому

      Yes I remember lol 😂

    • @Bongz1990
      @Bongz1990 2 роки тому

      The Muppets also ripped on them

  • @SoAnxious718
    @SoAnxious718 3 роки тому +150

    Frank doesn’t really seem sorry to me. I feel like he just shrugged it off and moved on. Rob and Fab were just pawns in a sick game.

    • @Misty8097
      @Misty8097 3 роки тому +6

      Exactly. They weren't the first and they weren't the last.

    • @sharondolan2439
      @sharondolan2439 2 роки тому +2

      Dead right he doesn't care about Rob or any body else , as long as he's getting the money , he's ugly inside and out,,,,Rob was beutiful inside and out.... karma is taking its time to pay him back , but karma will get ,,,,

  • @felinefokus
    @felinefokus 3 роки тому +28

    I'm still stuck on the box braids these folks rocking with the crinkles on the end 👀 *#GoOff* 💅🏽

  • @robertmauli1293
    @robertmauli1293 3 роки тому +60

    Another reason confirmed on the fact that as BLACK FOLKS WORLDWIDE, we are imitated. From our beautiful looks to our beautiful heritage.

  • @cadillacdeville5828
    @cadillacdeville5828 3 роки тому +59

    I ALWAYS appreciate her intro ☺️👏

    • @ronnelljackson5993
      @ronnelljackson5993 3 роки тому

      By the way do you know what song or mix that is? High vibes all day

    • @lbellc1
      @lbellc1 3 роки тому

      🤔

    • @ronnelljackson5993
      @ronnelljackson5993 3 роки тому +1

      All good lol been trying to find that song in the intro. Peace

    • @norah9725
      @norah9725 3 роки тому

      @@ronnelljackson5993 me too😭😭

  • @leonholt6075
    @leonholt6075 3 роки тому +117

    I remember the entire scandal. TODAY, public acceptance of such a thing is liable to go either way: NO to lip syncing, YES to AutoTune.😁

    • @jsun7972
      @jsun7972 3 роки тому +17

      and yes to ghostwriters and ghost producers too in hip hop, which used to be frowned upon.

    • @OVOXO1234561
      @OVOXO1234561 3 роки тому

      😹😹👌🏿

    • @christineharris2197
      @christineharris2197 3 роки тому

      100

  • @joshuacollins7398
    @joshuacollins7398 3 роки тому +183

    Jlo been using other artist vocals on her tracks for years. She can't sing.

  • @lala40121
    @lala40121 3 роки тому +73

    Your intro alone deserves its flowers 🌻 top tier!

  • @sailormeesh
    @sailormeesh 3 роки тому +41

    Finally someone talking about how cruel society was to Milli Vanilli. How unfairly they were treated.

    • @thepubknight6144
      @thepubknight6144 Рік тому

      same with vanilla ice, snow, and mc hammer all were treated badly by people in the music business who are using the same tactics they accused these innocent people of...make you wonder if the intent was to just get them out of the way so they can profit off the same thing

  • @beautifultay669
    @beautifultay669 3 роки тому +144

    Now we have cardi b and JLO

    • @Svetlana-says-it-as-it-is.
      @Svetlana-says-it-as-it-is. 3 роки тому +43

      I am not familiar with Cardi B’s work but that JLO can’t sing for shit.

    • @dinasilva9263
      @dinasilva9263 3 роки тому +19

      @@Svetlana-says-it-as-it-is. so true, jlo is another fraude!

    • @ios332
      @ios332 3 роки тому +4

      Nicky Minaj lipsync to Bebe Rexha and another one for singing part...her voice is annoying.

    • @beautifultay669
      @beautifultay669 3 роки тому +7

      l Os wtf does that have to do with anything?

    • @latieraqueen7Pacheco
      @latieraqueen7Pacheco 3 роки тому +2

      Cardi can sing. Wish she cross over from the rap.

  • @thataurus2492
    @thataurus2492 3 роки тому +56

    Fab can actually sing that's the crazy part

  • @cassielcruzchavolla809
    @cassielcruzchavolla809 3 роки тому +34

    This is really eye opening.... it really shows that the new phenonomen of "blackfishing" is nothing new, it just changed with the culture but non-black people using "blackness" as an aesthetic has been going on for a long time

  • @darrylcurrie1285
    @darrylcurrie1285 3 роки тому +233

    That “Culture Vulture”didn’t produce no records for “Stevie Wonder” he wasn’t that good to say the least.

    • @SunshineBalogun
      @SunshineBalogun 3 роки тому +8

      He probably produced one song for Stevie.

    • @mondingo67
      @mondingo67 3 роки тому +13

      Nope. Stevie wonder produced and produces all his songs/albums.😏

    • @jsun7972
      @jsun7972 3 роки тому +12

      Yeah I side eyeing that whole "produced for Stevie Wonder" comment...😒😒😒

    • @ASJyirod
      @ASJyirod 3 роки тому +3

      It’s called ghost work

    • @steve-hm1wn
      @steve-hm1wn 3 роки тому +15

      @@SunshineBalogun stevie wonder used Frank Farian's studio to record "I Just Called to Say I Love You", and that's it. he shouldn't even be mentioned in the same sentence with Stevie Wonder, trying to gain credibility

  • @Denailacole
    @Denailacole 3 роки тому +124

    When they finally sang I SCREAMED!!!!
    GUHH YOU KNOW ITS TRUUU UUU 😩😂🥴

    • @ericlane2249
      @ericlane2249 3 роки тому +8

      😂

    • @TheSoulIsPrismaticTV
      @TheSoulIsPrismaticTV 3 роки тому +8

      SAME! 😩😩😂😂😂

    • @afropowa1598
      @afropowa1598 3 роки тому +7

      Wow, mocking the dead is a thing now. That's just fucked up and sad! Hopefully people would give y'all the same energy.

    • @iamgooberz
      @iamgooberz 3 роки тому +15

      Afro Powa no ones mocking their character or them as a person. He can’t sing and that’s just a fact.

    • @afropowa1598
      @afropowa1598 3 роки тому +5

      @@iamgooberz They barely speak English at that time so of course they are going to sound horrible. Actually dissing a singer's voice is attacking their character, lol. Now, that is a fact!

  • @1marilynable
    @1marilynable 3 роки тому +42

    Btw girl I'm a Drag Queen and lipsync for a living. I can always tell when a music artist is doing lipsyncing !😮
    But I don't blame these guys, they actually had good voices, and I know their management made them lipsync which is dumb. He used them to make some money and then threw them away.

  • @TheGustavitou
    @TheGustavitou 3 роки тому +82

    There are a lot of cases similar to Milli Vanilli's.... to name a few: Black Box, C&C Music Factory, Corona, Tecnotronic ("Pump up the jam" music video) among others, used models to lip-sync instead of the real singers. It was a common practice.

    • @ios332
      @ios332 3 роки тому +10

      True, the difference between them they didn't win Grammys

    • @tracienotstacie7577
      @tracienotstacie7577 3 роки тому +12

      Yes c&c music factory played Martha Walsh!

    • @carmenalexis4787
      @carmenalexis4787 3 роки тому +2

      Gustavo Javier still is common place.

    • @thenewjord50
      @thenewjord50 3 роки тому

      @Slim Pickens didn't thought they were lip syncing please explain and back up the facts

    • @joannjohnson2481
      @joannjohnson2481 3 роки тому +4

      @@ios332 C&C music Factory won a Grammy .

  • @Lynn_Shae0915
    @Lynn_Shae0915 3 роки тому +33

    I just love your voice it’s so professional and not with any profanity to ruin the content. I only click just to listen to your voice

  • @ericacruz8261
    @ericacruz8261 3 роки тому +45

    I was going on a Milli Vanilli UA-cam binge yesterday. No joke. And you come out with this video. Perfect timing👏🏻👏🏻❤️ I do hear they’re going to make a movie about them and I hope they do. What they went through is fascinating and sad to me.

  • @MiamiPush2theLimit
    @MiamiPush2theLimit 3 роки тому +14

    The Milli Vanilli episode of Behind The Music was a CLASSIC.

    • @Cherry-J
      @Cherry-J 3 роки тому

      Yess I use to watch it all the time!

  • @isaiahbangura4421
    @isaiahbangura4421 3 роки тому +17

    The media blamed everything on them and Favian didn't get any blame. But Fab is still singing, put out a whole album. Face Meets Voice: A Milli Vanilli Experience.

  • @jamiejagers2450
    @jamiejagers2450 3 роки тому +100

    Tommy Motolla and Jlo tease

    • @smojitto
      @smojitto 3 роки тому +2

      @John Edwards yeah she is, but honestly as she could sing lead, she should have done Background as well.... The stuff her and her management did was messy 🤷‍♂️

    • @samreed7817
      @samreed7817 3 роки тому +1

      This is the funniest comment

  • @ndsmith1000ify
    @ndsmith1000ify 3 роки тому +68

    I don't blame Rob and Fab and never have simply because they were pushed on to it from a position of poverty. I DO blame Frank, Arista, and producers and associated. They all knew exactly what was being done.

  • @Zaylayah
    @Zaylayah 3 роки тому +11

    Rob singing girl you kno it’s true had me crying 😂

    • @co_7523
      @co_7523 2 роки тому

      😂😂😂😂😂

  • @serenitylofiiii
    @serenitylofiiii 3 роки тому +558

    Of course it was a white man smdh

    • @andrewreid7535
      @andrewreid7535 3 роки тому +32

      Not even a race thing , it’s the music industry as a whole , you can’t trust anybody

    • @nonibankroll7304
      @nonibankroll7304 3 роки тому +44

      Um puff did it with Jennifer Lopez lmao Ashanti and other black women were the voices of her first album.

    • @leiahdavis1908
      @leiahdavis1908 3 роки тому +22

      Noni Bankroll Puff got it from the white man 🤷🏾‍♀️

    • @serenitylofiiii
      @serenitylofiiii 3 роки тому +22

      ANDREW REID def a race thing

    • @brittmar538
      @brittmar538 3 роки тому +18

      @@serenitylofiiii the man that discovered New Edition was foul and a black man. So it's the music industry. Everything isn't race 🤷🏿‍♀️

  • @raypoindexter9989
    @raypoindexter9989 3 роки тому +21

    Damn girl you broke that down, great video!!!

  • @krystanoelll
    @krystanoelll 3 роки тому +81

    Frank is never seeing heaven.

    • @LisaF777
      @LisaF777 3 роки тому +1

      😂

    • @msbcheet6041
      @msbcheet6041 2 роки тому +4

      He better repent while he has time.

    • @sharondolan2439
      @sharondolan2439 2 роки тому

      That 🐍🐍🐍🐍 is going straight back to HELL where he came from .

  • @fawnieee
    @fawnieee 3 роки тому +74

    I've always been so curious how they managed to get away with this. Or who set them up to it!
    Your vids are always on point ❤️

  • @ladyteetee82
    @ladyteetee82 3 роки тому +62

    It's a shame that back then Rob and Fab was crucified as if it was their idea in the first place and I mean, who wouldn't take an opportunity such as that when you are poor and struggling to make a name for yourself. Now it's as normal as breathing and hard as hell to find an authentic artist. What's the name used?? *snapping my fingers* oh yeah, a "Studio Artist" *wink*

  • @lala40121
    @lala40121 3 роки тому +17

    Get out my head! I was just riding around the city blasting "Girl you know it's true...ooh oooo ooh I love youuu" thinking of this group heavy. Yes! You always come through 👏🏼🔥

  • @OmegaSeraphim
    @OmegaSeraphim 3 роки тому +83

    And now...people can not discern whether people are lip syncing and praising those using auto tune. 😔

  • @maestromoore5051
    @maestromoore5051 3 роки тому +19

    Black Box & CC Music Factory tried the same thing with ex Weather Girl Martha Wash. The only difference was Martha had already established her career, you immediately knew her voice even though Somebody else was passing it off as theirs.

  • @sunshinexoxo20
    @sunshinexoxo20 3 роки тому +34

    Always on point with the content. Can click and watch no matter what I'm doing.

  • @CiaobellaAmour
    @CiaobellaAmour 3 роки тому +15

    Another great video from 1 of the best,black YT channels to ever do it! 💃🏽💃🏽

  • @maliceintended
    @maliceintended 3 роки тому +103

    I remember Rob saying in an interview that he was hoping they didn't win the Grammy because, he knew if they won the gig was gonna be up.😂The MTV fiasco was funny as hell tho... Imagine something like that happening to Beyonce.😂😂😂

    • @jenlewis4382
      @jenlewis4382 3 роки тому +1

      They did a Behind the Music on VH1.

    • @MissJigglyPuff24
      @MissJigglyPuff24 3 роки тому +7

      This actually did happen to Beyonce when she was performing Baby Boy with Sean Paul at the 2003 MTV European Music Awards. I saw it live.

    • @maliceintended
      @maliceintended 3 роки тому

      @@MissJigglyPuff24 Really?! Wow..😂😂😂

    • @timmy841212
      @timmy841212 3 роки тому +14

      "All we wanted was not to get the Grammy. If we would get the Grammy, we knew our time was ticking. And we got the goddamn Grammy!" - Rob Pilatus, VH1's Behind the Music, November 1997

    • @maliceintended
      @maliceintended 3 роки тому

      @@timmy841212 Yup, that's exactly what he said.😂😂😂 Do you have a link to that video? I watched it once online but now I can't seem to find it anywhere. I would love to watch it again.

  • @DiegoMartinezDP
    @DiegoMartinezDP 3 роки тому +13

    I'm so glad you're taking this angle because it's so true! Frank Farian was talented enough to create some memorable tunes-I'll give him that! Boney M's imperial phase from '76 to '80 is a testament to his production genius, with such memorable tunes as "Rivers of Babylon," "Daddy Cool," "Ma Baker," "Rasputin" and "Gotta Go Home," just to name a few. But his refusal to make Bobby Farrell sing is just stupid. Honestly, aside from his crazy dance moves and on-stage persona, there was hardly any contribution from him on any of those songs. He could've easily put his voice there, maybe even buried behind Liz, Marcia, and Maizie, but that didn't happen. Same with Rob and Fab. Farian was indeed the villain in both cases.

  • @mjallen1308
    @mjallen1308 3 роки тому +45

    Crazy part is the guy(s) in Milli Vanilli could actually sing. Yet nobody wants to give the guy a chance even after the one committed suicide

    • @thepubknight6144
      @thepubknight6144 Рік тому +5

      right even rob showed that at the press conference may he rest in peace

    • @mjallen1308
      @mjallen1308 Рік тому +2

      @@thepubknight6144 it’s a shame. They got the short end of the stick and everyone just blamed them. I’ve also heard some of Fab’s vocals, it’s such a shame that Rob felt the need to take his life and that Fab hasn’t had the chance to shine.

  • @thisiscrln
    @thisiscrln 2 роки тому +7

    Thank you for this video. As a Black German, I wish we were ready to have this conversation here, but unfortunately, that is not the case.

  • @j_darkness8363
    @j_darkness8363 3 роки тому +17

    I looked up this story a while ago. So glad you are shedding a light on this❤️

  • @TheRealNativeSun
    @TheRealNativeSun 3 роки тому +86

    Fun Fact. Girl you know it’s true was written by Baltimore Hip Hop group The Numarx which one of the members was Kevin Liles. That was the original demo. I know because he’s my cousin. They got paid and a riaa platinum for that and Kevin went on to work with Def Jam as a&r for island records div and soon head of Def Jam and the rest is history. 💯 look up “Numarx Girl you know it’s true “. God bless.

  • @ReadLoveListen
    @ReadLoveListen 3 роки тому +17

    Fab and John Davis, one of the original singers, have now joined together and perform as Face Meets Voice.

  • @chibimaddy
    @chibimaddy 3 роки тому +16

    I loved Boney M. I had no idea. The girls sounded like ABBA but with more feeling and a better beat, and I loved the raspy voice that I thought was Bobby's and his dancing. I feel so bad for what happened to him. I can't help it though, I still love the music.

  • @sanchez73day36
    @sanchez73day36 3 роки тому +58

    It was not a mistake that there track skipped during their concert

    • @elaine21bok
      @elaine21bok 3 роки тому +8

      yeP, never happened tp anyone else, before nor after👀

    • @imightnotmakeit
      @imightnotmakeit 3 роки тому +6

      @@elaine21bok I mean Ashley simpsons track skipped on SNL

    • @msbcheet6041
      @msbcheet6041 2 роки тому +1

      @@imightnotmakeit I bet she still got paid more than Bobby Farrell, his fellow singers in Boney M, and Milli Vanilli-- COMBINED.

  • @darrylcurrie1285
    @darrylcurrie1285 3 роки тому +60

    Nor did the ‘Culture Vulture’ ever work with the great “Stevie Wonder.” Also,that Grammy for Best New Artist award should’ve went to Neneh Cherry.

    • @TiondaRae
      @TiondaRae 3 роки тому +1

      Darryl Currie Facts!

    • @latonyagreen-warner7402
      @latonyagreen-warner7402 3 роки тому +4

      Buffalo Stance. Love that song.

    • @Onyx765
      @Onyx765 3 роки тому

      YES! Neneh Cherry is so underrated and very talented!

    • @timmy841212
      @timmy841212 3 роки тому +1

      Neneh got robbed. I actually watched the show and got so mad Milli Vanilli won. 😂

    • @saj8
      @saj8 3 роки тому +2

      Hell no. It should have gone to Soul II Soul.

  • @r4elyn
    @r4elyn 3 роки тому +18

    love the intro 💖 so creative

  • @sunnysunshine6271
    @sunnysunshine6271 3 роки тому +6

    Did you know that Frank Farian was also behind the group Eruption (I can't stand the rain)? They sang themselves but hardly made any money and he toured them around like crazy.

  • @TheKristyle79
    @TheKristyle79 3 роки тому +76

    @11:07 OMG that’s embarrassing! Dude sounded awful, smh. 🥴

  • @mariselissa
    @mariselissa 3 роки тому +7

    I wish Rob and Fab had the foresight to get themselves some Singing lessons from the start, and gotten with another lable to market their independent album

    • @rucianapollard7098
      @rucianapollard7098 Рік тому +1

      When they came out, they were such a sensation and things moved so quickly, they got caught up in the moment. I think it's sad.

  • @TheGListed2
    @TheGListed2 3 роки тому +43

    Great topic! It’s unfair how evil people like Frank Farian get to live long.

  • @Mzunderstood319
    @Mzunderstood319 2 роки тому +1

    Here enjoying all the nostalgia!! I'm 42 and wish I can go back!!

  • @leslyej1274
    @leslyej1274 3 роки тому +8

    So we just gonna ignore how handsome Michael Bolton looked in that suit and how luxurious his mane was? Ugh I'm in love

  • @StrngAzDiamnds
    @StrngAzDiamnds 3 роки тому +11

    Omg the music at the end was so triggering. I remembered those songs playing all day everyday in downtown Los Angeles when I was 4-5 yo 😲😩

  • @art.of.verser
    @art.of.verser 3 роки тому +11

    Definitely was more to the story than meets the eye. 👌🏾

  • @tyralikadiamondstar8960
    @tyralikadiamondstar8960 3 роки тому +19

    When rob abd fabien was on A senior Hall show they did one of their new song from their ablum and they could sing abd i dont know why we didnt give them a 2bd chance. That Producer was wrong they could sing

  • @megbewa264
    @megbewa264 3 роки тому +12

    People always be talking about Milli Vanilli and blaming them, when they were actually victims, wtfff

  • @NiaraRenee
    @NiaraRenee 3 роки тому +94

    This is horrible but you can tell they were lip syncing like cmon now lol it’s so obvious

  • @implive17
    @implive17 3 роки тому +4

    Great documentary. Keep up the good work sister. Much love.

  • @brifromnyc4271
    @brifromnyc4271 3 роки тому +13

    Being a fan of 90s house music and EDM, I remember reading that La Bouche told Frank that they wanted full control of their voices😂

  • @rra7490
    @rra7490 3 роки тому +20

    All kinds of people got screwed over by that Frank, the original voices should have just done the Milli Vanilli album. Rob and Fab should have kept doing their own vocals...who knows what could have came of it.

  • @farajaa-taweel6217
    @farajaa-taweel6217 3 роки тому +4

    RIP Rob. Good sailing Fab

  • @mynameissammmm704
    @mynameissammmm704 3 роки тому +5

    I’m sorry I died when they stood up and started singing 😭

  • @fiftykillerslady
    @fiftykillerslady 3 роки тому +23

    Hopefully you make one on Prince🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾

    • @thecosmicblueautie
      @thecosmicblueautie 3 роки тому +11

      About his battle with Warner Bros. maybe? Maybe even what the feud behind him and Michael Jackson was all about.

    • @fiftykillerslady
      @fiftykillerslady 3 роки тому +6

      @@thecosmicblueautie Exactly !!! This is actually possible, putting two huge musical beast against one another for "profit"! W.B is evil asffff...

    • @gabrielam.8311
      @gabrielam.8311 3 роки тому +4

      @@fiftykillerslady The "slave" written on his cheek and the name change was misinterpreted then as "Prince being Prince" smh record businesses are scams

    • @fiftykillerslady
      @fiftykillerslady 3 роки тому +2

      @@gabrielam.8311 yes!!! It's an entire scam. People (especially back in the day) with actual talent, ended up *robbed* of their rights in the industry. Prince "slave" Era was an obvious "cry for help", a way to expose how destructive the music industry is... I'll suggest to watch the few interviews he gave, because the man made some major tea spilling, as well as Shaka Khan.

    • @Thespeedrap
      @Thespeedrap 3 роки тому

      R.I.P purple one😢

  • @ashleylynn6057
    @ashleylynn6057 3 роки тому +3

    I sincerely didn't care if they sang those songs or not, I was IN LOVE WITH BOTH OF THOSE BEAUTIFUL BLACK MEN!!!!
    GAWWWWDDD DAMN THEY WERE FINE!!!!!

  • @shaniadiamond1675
    @shaniadiamond1675 3 роки тому +4

    Chileee I hollered when they started singing in the studio with their actual voices 😭

  • @CerciRodriguez
    @CerciRodriguez 3 роки тому +20

    And decades later we have Cardi and many more, the difference is the labels know how to work around it now and not get caught.

  • @clarissaculbreath7529
    @clarissaculbreath7529 3 роки тому +1

    Please, more content ! I stumbled across this GEM (your channel) and have been hooked ever since. The memories, the content its so soothing to me , im super intrigued and I get to escape this new society for a few moments. Shoutout to ALL the 80's babies btw !!!!