I'm playing these guys (gals?) for my first MP game, a couple thoughts: -I went with the first queen imprisoned scales as well, I won't get into detail on the paths but the important point is that I think attack skill>>defense skill for the sacreds. They have spears so they can repel, so the goal is for glamour to save you from a couple hits on the way in then trade up in melee. - the loremistress is... OK to get a few of, but generally speaking I think they're pretty weak when compared to their other choices. Their biggest offer is the G/N crosspath to get some value summons, but it's a low enough roll that I'd just focus on savants and (especially) sorceresses. Sorceresses have an extra path plus a decently useful bonus ability for only 45 gold more and half the recruit time. There's just not many things loremistresses give that communioned savants or sorceresses can't. I admit I might think differently if I didn't have a rainbow-ish god to summon stuff with lategame, though. - You forgot to mention their sacred commander, which is NOT a good thug option but IS something you'll want a few of to sneaky-deaky your sacreds around. - I think you're underselling their unit roster somewhat. By human-chassis standards it's surprisingly decent IME. Their cheap chaff has higher-than-normal morale to serve their purpose better of eating hits for better stuff, the lady knight is very competitive with any non-sacred heavy cav out there, and the lady-at-arms quietly has a near-elvish statline. Sure the archers are terrible but that's really easy to fix in late age with indies. - Yep expansion is a bit tricky but it's not *that* tricky by LA standards. If your sacreds have a killy buff (as above I used attack skill) you just need some chaff and a priest to screen. This might be a more dom6 late age thing than a Feminie thing, but it's totally OK to wait one extra turn to ensure your expansion party is big enough to get a blowout rout instead of a high-attrition win. I skipped expanding on turns 2 and 4 but ultimately ended up doing better than the other players because I didn't take many losses. - +1 to building a couple unforted temples early. They're half cost for the nation!
Thank you for bringing in some practical experience! This is gonna help others a lot, I'll pin your comment for others to reference too! It's fair on the attack/defense argument, that is a very good point. Especially since LA is the age of the broadsword. On the loremistress, I highly value having larger toolkits with their addition of W / N crosspaths. They are harder to get than the sorceresses. I think I didn't explain myself too well. My logic is that you want your forts to be making loremistresses often, either because they will carry research or random into paths you need (looking at N2/W2). Then whenever you need combat power now you swap to sorceresses for a few turns and just pump them out. They are the bread and butter of the nation for sure. I had a portion dedicated to the sacred commander, but I actually took it out because there is a lot to unpack on what that gal can do and I wanted to keep it short. I think waiting an extra turn for expansion might be the play. Losing an early party is devastating. The lady knight is fantastic! Just hard to field early on. But once you can field them, and give them buffs, oh boy do they rock! Until late-game MR problems ofc, but that's far away. Now the lady at arms...She isn't bad per se. I compared her to similar 15/16g cost heavy infantry of the age -- the Entrance Guard of Agartha, Defender of Man, and Comitatense of Pythium. In every case, I would have preferred the other option over the Lady at Arms. Entrance Guard has better armor, HP, and better traits (fort defense, 50% darkvision), but worse stats/weapon Defender has the whole crossbow thing going on for roughly the same exact stat line, and better armor Comitatense has the same exact stats(-1attackskill, -1morale), but brings a javelin and 16 mapmove They are all very close, but I lean toward the other heavy infantry of the age. This makes lady-at-arms, at least to me personally, feel average at best rather than a standout. Its 100% a preference thing, and I could absolutely be wrong. Please update me as your MP game progresses! I am excited to hear about the nation and how bonkers the glamour path can potentially get later!
I think this format is slightly better than the Piconye one. It's a little longer and thus can go into a little more depth, but is still bite-sized. I think this is an ideal length.
Okay, I'll use the timestamps as a template for future videos where possible. Some nations may skew it in different directions (more time spent on units, less on mages etc). Thank you!
I am personally someone who would gladly inject 2 hour Dominion National Deep Dives directly into my veins, but I do think that this slightly longer format does a great job of giving a solid overview but actually capturing the idea of how it all fits together. From your video I know that this nation is somewhat akin to Bandar Log in being a "Extremely promising late game magic/summoning power but the challenge is expansion and early wars". Even as someone experienced at the game it gives me a good idea of the sort of things I want to be thinking about in pretender design (Domain candles, gold is important, and think about how Pretender is going to solve early game). Great video!
I think this is good, you could probably take even a little more if you felt like you needed it. My personal goal is aiming around the 15 minute mark, with 20 min going a bit long
I like this format more. Didn't go too long! The presentation is very nice. Feels like just the right amount of info as a primer/quick starter guide. By comparison the Piconye video felt like a really useful summary.
While I still don't think I'd voluntarily use them except out of desperation, it's worth noting that many of the animal summons had their price reduced.
Played around with Feminie last night using some of these concepts and I've gotta say their research is dummy strong. Like, omg it was disgustingly crazy.
The gameplay ones? It will take awhile for me to get some for dom6. Working on it now but one of two is going terribly... Really lost motivation to open dom5. I practiced a new format to cover expansion when i do come back to dom6 tho.
@@ZanGames I also started to lose motivation to play Dom5, especially when 6 was announced. Sometimes it is interesting to see a losing situation, or game that goes badly. It depends on how you frame it as the viewpoint, and also your attitude to the situation: if the player is trying interesting things and trying to have fun in the hopeless situation it can be enjoyable to watch, however if they are moderately hopeless, or angry it can be frustrating for the viewer. I'm glad to hear that you have some stuff in the pipeline, you always have interesting takes on strategy and some fun meme plays.
It's impressive you can fit this much info in 10 minutes! Definitely tought me a fair bit for when I try and make more overview videos in the future myself ^^
Let me know if you have any questions! Keeping a written summary, like the one I'm posting in the description, helps a lot to keep yourself on track and not ramble. Also recording in sections whenever you can. Doing everything in one take is butts.
I liked the extra depth and information in this video. The timestamps are really nice, although with such a short video it's also fine searching through it for information.
I'll be honest... I didn't even check for heroes but that will help. I haven't tried it yet, but supposedly using scouts to force your way into blood is a lot easier now in the late age.
Excellent format! I think especially this early on, when no one is going to have finished a multiplayer game with a nation (other than a Blitz), these shorter videos make more sense.
Looks like a cool nation, though a seems heavily reliant on using magic carefully and effectively - makes every move require more thought (not necessarily a bad thing, but certainly certainly a factor, especially in single player). 10 minutes for an overview seems like a really good length to me - it lets you give a little more flavor about how the nation is played, where 6ish minutes doesn't seem quite long enough. Personally I could take or leave the more polished animations vs just flashing things up from the menu for a few seconds (which lets me pause and read more if I'm not familiar with the spell/unit, vs having to pull up the game/inspector) - they are pretty though :). Thanks for these videos - I'm quite enjoying them. Looking forward to hear your thoughts on the dogs!
Thank you for the sub! I appreciate it! I'll do my best to keep up the pace and make more! Nidavangr should be next! They are fun to make and I love the discussion that follows in the comments.
I must say as well, as a new player (Dom 6 is my first Dominions game) this helps me get a better grasps on what to look for and how to analyse the different factions and gods you can choose as well as the different kinds of combos there are out there.@@ZanGames
Sweet! That is great to hear! I am pretty sure I have a guide somewhere on...EA TC? Kind of where I talk about how I review nations. A lot has changed since then, but it probably still applies if youre hungry for knowledge!
Don't have a chance to listen to the video again, but popping over the chart I made I do have gift of splendor listed. Although now I am realizing I didn't add the F crosspath to it. Oops...
I like the format for both of these videos. I think it's cool to have these short quick looks at nation compared to the longer deep dives. I like a good deep dive for sure, but with so much changing re Doms6 I would rather get a shallow understanding of a lot of what's changed rather than only seeing one or two nations getting a larger look that seems difficult to grasp out of a wider context. It seems a lot of old nations have been changed or reworked too, so having vids like these that focus on what's changed could be cool to see.
Glad you like them! I'll hit some of the older nations next week before going back to the new ones. I'm very unfamiliar with giants and ea in general, so trying to stay away from Pyrene and Muspel right now.
Glad to see you back! Maybe in the future i'll go in depth again, but maybe specific aspects of a nation at a time. I'm working on Nidavangr right now and I feel I could make an entire video on just their sacred unit, and probably another one on their sacred mage. Yet somehow I need to do both and the rest of their roster in 10 minutes. Oh boy...
Sweet, I'll add those back in when they come up. They weren't initially in, but then I was talking about them without them on screen...Ad hoc editting go!
Hey i liked this videos formant since you asked for oppinions I terms of content i agree with you for the most part. After trying multiple set ups i think i ljme the elephant juggernaut the best. It was a greedier side set upwith arcane finese reinvigoration and a bit kf arcane command. Made to boost late game sage queens in terms of master enslave and legions demise but makes for deadly mind hunt cannons and smaller false damage evocations. Now granted you have to empower for rune smashers and very sadly you dont have good smiths so items will come at a price but the elephant can search you earth and maybe a couple of hammers. And he expands super ez plus later becomes very mobile with teleport, gets you greedy late hame bling, nexus access, nexus itself, time stop etc.
Its actually not enough anymore. Ive tried twist fate bless + cast protection from fire (10fres) + phoenix power (+5fres) and still had decent losses. Skyfireballs hit hard and often
I think the Piconye video is a bit of a short joke. This Feminie one covers enough, that one did not., IMO. 10 minutes is a great time for a bite size cover when you have things as well organized as this video. Nice job. I do not find the combat footage necessary, but I did not find it distracting either. Sometimes a little visual flair is nice to have.
I played Feminie for quite some time and I think they are not the Nation you dicribe in your Video. Sorry to say that. In my Games I go for a Imprison Buff. Your worst Problem early on are Crossbows, so Go for a Airshield It Protects your Sacreds and Most of your Commanders from harm by Missles as soon as your God arrives. Until this , use Sacreds(They are really cheap, you need more to buy but the reduced upkeep makes up for it), and the Sage Queen. Yes she is more expenssive as first BUT she is sacred too so 50% cheaper in upkeep. And the Best Commander you can get, she is 2 Level 2 Priest with inspiration 1, so with the Ring of the false Prohpet she is Lvl 3. For Attack you need a Magic Attack, mostly I go for Solar Weapons, get a Prophet, bless your Unseen, watch them Deal with Pesky Undead. Bloodsurge is a great way to stay on the Momentum. Normal units(Heavy Cav, Haevy Inf etc) doesn´t bother you, Your Sacreds are Glamour so if they try to hit they miss mostly. But Ranged isn´t effected so Crossbows are hard. But your Loremistrss comes with a huge Glamour 3 Fire 1 and Astral 3. So get some revingoration in your Bless and use the really really cheap Glamour Spells. Until this , use Sacreds. The new Glamour Items like the Mask are outstanding, they can be Forged by a Lvl 2 Glamour Mage and gives G+1. The Sacred Unseen Commanders are really God Assasins and Spys as soon as you get the Mask of Face borrowing (Gives Stealth +30 and the Spy Trait). They are Snaky as F... and you can do really funny things with them if you get them in enemy Provinces and just let them Preach. The Glamour Enchatments and Globals makes it really hard for Enemys to do the Same. They can´t find your Provinces and you can build Fake Castles meanwhile covering your really ones. All your Sage-Queens have the Veil Army so your Enemy will never Know your real Army. Great for Multiplayer. If you get your Hands on Blood either by the only Hero so far or your Pretender Forge some Black Hearts and watch your Unweiled Commanders Assasinate enemy Commanders. Feminie is no Chaff Nation in my Opinion. Just use your Sacreds, Buff your Archers with Poison/Fire, and Cast the hell out of your enemys. Strong ones get a Mindblast every Sage Queen can cast, and weaker ones send to sleep with Glamour Mages. Undeads will get Sacred Wind which has a Huge 15+ AOE Effect. Finally I think Feminie is a great Nation, and if you use the new Stuff they are outstanding! Great Magic, the ability to Forge Items that change your Gameplay and annoy any Opponent who is brave enough to Challenge you. Just lure them in your Dominion and then let them never come back.
Hi Alyath, my hopes for my videos are to give players springboards for their own ideas on how to play the nations. I definitely won't always be correct as I don't have extreme practical experience in dominions 6 to pull from. Who knows where the meta will land right now afterall? My videos are also geared with the perspective of player vs player games. So there is a constant concern over how much value something provides, versus can it defeat enemy player sacreds. With the bless you mentioned in your post it sounds like your strategy is geared toward fighting the AI, at which...heck yeah that will work! I'm learning versus the AI imprisoned is almost always the way to go to maximize your pretender value. Versus players though, a bless like the one you listed might struggle a lot versus stronger sacreds that have a more direct combat oriented bless (raw stats, weapon effects, etc). I probably should highlight the pvp portion somewhere. My favorite part about your post is how you highlighted how badass and versatile the glamour path is. Great work exploring the options to make spies/assassins/prophets! I still don't have the most experience with pure glamour magic, but its so far my favorite!
In single player I think it might, the AI knows where your units are even in stealth and will try to patrol them out. In multiplayer I think players try more to predict your raids rather than patrol out raiders. At least thats what I do... I know that in the background having greater than 40 stealth value is a big deal, but past that its kind of unimportant.
S / C / or F5. I use F5. Big tip when going through dominions 5 menus is to always hit '?' on each one. This will pull up a list of potential hotkeys. Its helped me fine some niche ones in cases that end up helping a ton!
Thanks. Yes I use these shortcuts but I often forget about '?' which is obviously the most useful! I had thought you had managed to filter the national summons but can now see that it's information from a magic site 2:07 - Subscribed, great channel :)@@ZanGames
They are definitely a lot easier. The majority seems to prefer these shorter ones. So what I might do is make these quick overviews for the nations. But then if I find something I can deep dive into, I can make THOSE videos super long. I feel I could definitely do a longer form one on both the Nidbathed and the Crow Clan mage. But I should probably get some more practical experience in the field with those before I get to long form.
I am not sure if I fully understand how to expand. On the scale pretender I am having big problems with expanding.. .Am I supposed to make blessed units, Cloistered lady for bless and hope for the best ? >.< I am quite bad at dominions, complete noob so... Would love some nudge if possible!
Hi! I can try and tackle this in a video because boy is it TOUGH on this nation. I strongly recommend using an expander, like the golden lion for the job. Especially for newer players. Otherwise...i'd say its worth waiting in your capital an extra turn for recruitment. If there are lightly armored enemies nearby archers can do okay, otherwise probably look at knights or lady at arms. Ill give it another shot.
@@ZanGames Gotcha! Yeah I will be playing a noob LA game(Until will decide to change from them last minute) but might go awake pretender cause... Unless I waited 3 turns and got some decent troops, it was hard otherwise
Alrighty, gave it a shot! I was able to get something going by massing archers early on and avoiding heavy cavalry for the first province. Can probably get ~30-40 archers on turn 1 to supplement the first army. Then march that into an army with a lot of lightly armored units. Something like barbarians, woodsmen, light infantry/militia. I was able to actually get a province on turn 2 with little losses. After that I started recruiting the capital sacred because of the defense bless and used them to absorb lance charges. I also recruited the leader version of them at that point with a savant. I did not end up expanding turn 2 and instead unified both armies on the cap and then moved out. Losses were very minimal. Once I got the rest of the circle I swapped over to the cavalry and its easy pickings from there. Riskier than the expander. Also not married to that defense bless. Someone else recommend +atk instead and that may be better?
@@ZanGames Will give it a try then1 Thank you so much for willing to even test it. Additional question, do you feel that expander pretender is better due to early game, or scales would be better due to mid/late game?
There is a lot of it depends there. Expanders help you get your feet off the ground, but have a moment of weakness just after expansion. Where its difficult to defend all the land you took from other players. Scales may struggle more earlier, but will have more gold / research later. The land taken by an expander is also not as effective as if you had better scales, but you'll have more land. Its definitely a nation / player choice deal. @@Miyokari
I don't see the home-bound tag that they have in Ind. Does that mean they don't lose hit points outside their territory, or does it just not show? In the description it still says their bound to their lands so wanted to double check
Feminie's special summoned versions are not home-bound, because Feminie found a way to use Glamour Magic to fool the Divine Decree that bound them there. I presume this involves creating magical illusions of the Giants in their homeland so that the Decree thinks they're still in prison or something. But yes, Feminie's Giants do not suffer Homesickness at all.
It honestly sounded like timey wimey magic from reading the heroes' description. It says they "recreated the conditions before the decree bound them." Whatever that means...
@ZanGames ah, so they did find a way to pull them out of that issue. Wonder if Ind continues to have it, because if so that would suck. The lost tribe for Ind was always useless in Doms5 because of the general lack of utility in making them homesick
@ZanGames My assumption is that they used Glamour magic to trick the old Pantokrator's decree into believing that the giants are still trapped. Kind of like letting the inmates out of prison while putting up a fake camera feed to convince people that everything is normal.
The spell is 'deceive the decree of the lost' and it costs glamour gems, I thought the implication was that the summon spell is tricking whatever is binding them to their lands (the Celestial Powers?) to think that they're still there.
Despite claims that Dom 6 was gonna be more army focused they are just retreading old ground with how these factions work. A whole faction of warrior women where none of the women fight because they send their big housecat and a bunch of giant dudes they summoned to do all of that lol.
I mean, that's still army-focussed. Using summons as opposed to troops you recruited doesn't fundamentally change that. As long as mages aren't completely dominating the mid/lategame, I'd say that they've still succeeded.
While I do pitch using the housecat and giant dudes, they would likely need to be supported by other more human based armies. There is just so much gold to recruit...
I'm playing these guys (gals?) for my first MP game, a couple thoughts:
-I went with the first queen imprisoned scales as well, I won't get into detail on the paths but the important point is that I think attack skill>>defense skill for the sacreds. They have spears so they can repel, so the goal is for glamour to save you from a couple hits on the way in then trade up in melee.
- the loremistress is... OK to get a few of, but generally speaking I think they're pretty weak when compared to their other choices. Their biggest offer is the G/N crosspath to get some value summons, but it's a low enough roll that I'd just focus on savants and (especially) sorceresses. Sorceresses have an extra path plus a decently useful bonus ability for only 45 gold more and half the recruit time. There's just not many things loremistresses give that communioned savants or sorceresses can't. I admit I might think differently if I didn't have a rainbow-ish god to summon stuff with lategame, though.
- You forgot to mention their sacred commander, which is NOT a good thug option but IS something you'll want a few of to sneaky-deaky your sacreds around.
- I think you're underselling their unit roster somewhat. By human-chassis standards it's surprisingly decent IME. Their cheap chaff has higher-than-normal morale to serve their purpose better of eating hits for better stuff, the lady knight is very competitive with any non-sacred heavy cav out there, and the lady-at-arms quietly has a near-elvish statline. Sure the archers are terrible but that's really easy to fix in late age with indies.
- Yep expansion is a bit tricky but it's not *that* tricky by LA standards. If your sacreds have a killy buff (as above I used attack skill) you just need some chaff and a priest to screen. This might be a more dom6 late age thing than a Feminie thing, but it's totally OK to wait one extra turn to ensure your expansion party is big enough to get a blowout rout instead of a high-attrition win. I skipped expanding on turns 2 and 4 but ultimately ended up doing better than the other players because I didn't take many losses.
- +1 to building a couple unforted temples early. They're half cost for the nation!
Thank you for bringing in some practical experience! This is gonna help others a lot, I'll pin your comment for others to reference too!
It's fair on the attack/defense argument, that is a very good point. Especially since LA is the age of the broadsword.
On the loremistress, I highly value having larger toolkits with their addition of W / N crosspaths. They are harder to get than the sorceresses. I think I didn't explain myself too well. My logic is that you want your forts to be making loremistresses often, either because they will carry research or random into paths you need (looking at N2/W2). Then whenever you need combat power now you swap to sorceresses for a few turns and just pump them out. They are the bread and butter of the nation for sure.
I had a portion dedicated to the sacred commander, but I actually took it out because there is a lot to unpack on what that gal can do and I wanted to keep it short.
I think waiting an extra turn for expansion might be the play. Losing an early party is devastating.
The lady knight is fantastic! Just hard to field early on. But once you can field them, and give them buffs, oh boy do they rock! Until late-game MR problems ofc, but that's far away.
Now the lady at arms...She isn't bad per se. I compared her to similar 15/16g cost heavy infantry of the age -- the Entrance Guard of Agartha, Defender of Man, and Comitatense of Pythium. In every case, I would have preferred the other option over the Lady at Arms.
Entrance Guard has better armor, HP, and better traits (fort defense, 50% darkvision), but worse stats/weapon
Defender has the whole crossbow thing going on for roughly the same exact stat line, and better armor
Comitatense has the same exact stats(-1attackskill, -1morale), but brings a javelin and 16 mapmove
They are all very close, but I lean toward the other heavy infantry of the age. This makes lady-at-arms, at least to me personally, feel average at best rather than a standout.
Its 100% a preference thing, and I could absolutely be wrong. Please update me as your MP game progresses! I am excited to hear about the nation and how bonkers the glamour path can potentially get later!
I could never recommend enough heroism even if it's only to give +1 RP after a few turn for each research monkey
I think this format is slightly better than the Piconye one. It's a little longer and thus can go into a little more depth, but is still bite-sized. I think this is an ideal length.
Okay, I'll use the timestamps as a template for future videos where possible. Some nations may skew it in different directions (more time spent on units, less on mages etc).
Thank you!
Seconded!
Thirded! 10 minutes is a very nice length for an intro video.
Spot on
finally someone making dom6 videos who can follow a script to keep things under 2 hours
It took *a lot* of people messaging me to get me to bend and start lol. So much we want to talk about, hard to compress it.
I am personally someone who would gladly inject 2 hour Dominion National Deep Dives directly into my veins, but I do think that this slightly longer format does a great job of giving a solid overview but actually capturing the idea of how it all fits together. From your video I know that this nation is somewhat akin to Bandar Log in being a "Extremely promising late game magic/summoning power but the challenge is expansion and early wars". Even as someone experienced at the game it gives me a good idea of the sort of things I want to be thinking about in pretender design (Domain candles, gold is important, and think about how Pretender is going to solve early game).
Great video!
Honestly they have a similar power curve to Bandar Log too. Good comparison!
I think this is good, you could probably take even a little more if you felt like you needed it. My personal goal is aiming around the 15 minute mark, with 20 min going a bit long
Thanks kirby!
I like this format more. Didn't go too long! The presentation is very nice. Feels like just the right amount of info as a primer/quick starter guide. By comparison the Piconye video felt like a really useful summary.
Perfect, thank you!
While I still don't think I'd voluntarily use them except out of desperation, it's worth noting that many of the animal summons had their price reduced.
Played around with Feminie last night using some of these concepts and I've gotta say their research is dummy strong. Like, omg it was disgustingly crazy.
Heck yeah! That's the best thing to hear! Thank you for letting me know!
Hell yeah. Pretty awesome. Love the format.
Thank you! Tried to applied some filters, but I think I failed. WiP
One of the best quality Dom videos ever made.
Thank you! That means a lot!
I liked the video format and I miss your regular videos
The gameplay ones? It will take awhile for me to get some for dom6. Working on it now but one of two is going terribly...
Really lost motivation to open dom5. I practiced a new format to cover expansion when i do come back to dom6 tho.
@@ZanGames I also started to lose motivation to play Dom5, especially when 6 was announced. Sometimes it is interesting to see a losing situation, or game that goes badly. It depends on how you frame it as the viewpoint, and also your attitude to the situation: if the player is trying interesting things and trying to have fun in the hopeless situation it can be enjoyable to watch, however if they are moderately hopeless, or angry it can be frustrating for the viewer.
I'm glad to hear that you have some stuff in the pipeline, you always have interesting takes on strategy and some fun meme plays.
Cool and interesting. High Glamour is a relative rarity in the Late Age.
I'm so hype for it in a long form. Glamour is so strong I think.
I dig it. This is a nice size and the visuals seem really nice and professional. Now onto the dogs!
Thank you! Dogs are fun in such a different way. Illwinter nailed it with these 3 nations.
It's impressive you can fit this much info in 10 minutes! Definitely tought me a fair bit for when I try and make more overview videos in the future myself ^^
Let me know if you have any questions! Keeping a written summary, like the one I'm posting in the description, helps a lot to keep yourself on track and not ramble. Also recording in sections whenever you can. Doing everything in one take is butts.
I liked the extra depth and information in this video. The timestamps are really nice, although with such a short video it's also fine searching through it for information.
Awesome, thank you!
I like the length of this video. There's lots to talk about so having enough time is good
Perfect. Going to try and keep it at max 10min... That'll be rough. Maybe the old nations will be easier, Piconye and Feminie are both 4D chess.
Also worth mentioning is their national hero, a Nephilim with S3B3N3. That's one way you could potentially break into Blood.
I'll be honest... I didn't even check for heroes but that will help. I haven't tried it yet, but supposedly using scouts to force your way into blood is a lot easier now in the late age.
Went back to rewatch the Piconye video just to make sure, but yeah I prefer the format of this Feminie one.
Thank you, will keep it as a format going forward.
Excellent format! I think especially this early on, when no one is going to have finished a multiplayer game with a nation (other than a Blitz), these shorter videos make more sense.
That's the plan! Thank you!
Looks like a cool nation, though a seems heavily reliant on using magic carefully and effectively - makes every move require more thought (not necessarily a bad thing, but certainly certainly a factor, especially in single player).
10 minutes for an overview seems like a really good length to me - it lets you give a little more flavor about how the nation is played, where 6ish minutes doesn't seem quite long enough. Personally I could take or leave the more polished animations vs just flashing things up from the menu for a few seconds (which lets me pause and read more if I'm not familiar with the spell/unit, vs having to pull up the game/inspector) - they are pretty though :).
Thanks for these videos - I'm quite enjoying them. Looking forward to hear your thoughts on the dogs!
Okay. I'll drop some of the end videos cause boy those are work and try to focus more on just flashing stuff on screen with the normal ui.
Absolutly loving this series. Was ready to binge every strategy at a glance but only saw there were three, Definitely subbing for more
Thank you for the sub! I appreciate it!
I'll do my best to keep up the pace and make more! Nidavangr should be next! They are fun to make and I love the discussion that follows in the comments.
I must say as well, as a new player (Dom 6 is my first Dominions game) this helps me get a better grasps on what to look for and how to analyse the different factions and gods you can choose as well as the different kinds of combos there are out there.@@ZanGames
Sweet! That is great to hear! I am pretty sure I have a guide somewhere on...EA TC? Kind of where I talk about how I review nations. A lot has changed since then, but it probably still applies if youre hungry for knowledge!
The recommended spells section is overlooking the awe buffs imo.
Don't have a chance to listen to the video again, but popping over the chart I made I do have gift of splendor listed. Although now I am realizing I didn't add the F crosspath to it. Oops...
Great video. Since you prompted feedback I guess your microphone is picking up a bit of noise, though I wouldn't usually have thought to mention it.
Thank you! I'm working on it now but am hella clueless. Going to try to keep it further away next video...hopefully thats it.
I like the format for both of these videos. I think it's cool to have these short quick looks at nation compared to the longer deep dives. I like a good deep dive for sure, but with so much changing re Doms6 I would rather get a shallow understanding of a lot of what's changed rather than only seeing one or two nations getting a larger look that seems difficult to grasp out of a wider context.
It seems a lot of old nations have been changed or reworked too, so having vids like these that focus on what's changed could be cool to see.
Glad you like them! I'll hit some of the older nations next week before going back to the new ones. I'm very unfamiliar with giants and ea in general, so trying to stay away from Pyrene and Muspel right now.
Love it!
Wooo!
Love all your videos Zan! Wish it was an hour long though we've missed you :(((
Glad to see you back! Maybe in the future i'll go in depth again, but maybe specific aspects of a nation at a time. I'm working on Nidavangr right now and I feel I could make an entire video on just their sacred unit, and probably another one on their sacred mage. Yet somehow I need to do both and the rest of their roster in 10 minutes. Oh boy...
@@ZanGames Then do that entire video on all of them! More Zan = Better Zan
I understand those were time sensitive but those inserts of units/mages and spells were really nice.
Sweet, I'll add those back in when they come up. They weren't initially in, but then I was talking about them without them on screen...Ad hoc editting go!
Hey i liked this videos formant since you asked for oppinions
I terms of content i agree with you for the most part. After trying multiple set ups i think i ljme the elephant juggernaut the best. It was a greedier side set upwith arcane finese reinvigoration and a bit kf arcane command. Made to boost late game sage queens in terms of master enslave and legions demise but makes for deadly mind hunt cannons and smaller false damage evocations. Now granted you have to empower for rune smashers and very sadly you dont have good smiths so items will come at a price but the elephant can search you earth and maybe a couple of hammers. And he expands super ez plus later becomes very mobile with teleport, gets you greedy late hame bling, nexus access, nexus itself, time stop etc.
That thing will clap players who arent expecting it too. Very legitimate choice.
Twist fate (via amulets or casting it on self) is a good option for astral mages to protect themselves from remote nukes.
Its actually not enough anymore. Ive tried twist fate bless + cast protection from fire (10fres) + phoenix power (+5fres) and still had decent losses. Skyfireballs hit hard and often
@@ZanGames Got it, was that Flames From The Sky / Fires From Afar?
@@wintermath3173 flames from the sky, i didnt test the other ones. Ffts is the one in the vid actually!
both videos are great, zan. thnx for the content
My pleasure!
Hello, Zan!
Hi KermodeBear!
I think the graphics were helpful and look nice. They should stay in future versions
Neato, thinking of dropping the videos but i like making the charts
I think the Piconye video is a bit of a short joke. This Feminie one covers enough, that one did not., IMO. 10 minutes is a great time for a bite size cover when you have things as well organized as this video. Nice job. I do not find the combat footage necessary, but I did not find it distracting either. Sometimes a little visual flair is nice to have.
Great to hear, combat footage is a pita i am glad to remove.
I prefer the video a little longer. You're still MUCH shorter than many others in this space.
Alrighty, i'll aim for 10minutes going forward!
Big things happening in the late age
Its my favorite age, so I may be a bit biased.
I played Feminie for quite some time and I think they are not the Nation you dicribe in your Video. Sorry to say that. In my Games I go for a Imprison Buff. Your worst Problem early on are Crossbows, so Go for a Airshield It Protects your Sacreds and Most of your Commanders from harm by Missles as soon as your God arrives. Until this , use Sacreds(They are really cheap, you need more to buy but the reduced upkeep makes up for it), and the Sage Queen. Yes she is more expenssive as first BUT she is sacred too so 50% cheaper in upkeep. And the Best Commander you can get, she is 2 Level 2 Priest with inspiration 1, so with the Ring of the false Prohpet she is Lvl 3. For Attack you need a Magic Attack, mostly I go for Solar Weapons, get a Prophet, bless your Unseen, watch them Deal with Pesky Undead. Bloodsurge is a great way to stay on the Momentum. Normal units(Heavy Cav, Haevy Inf etc) doesn´t bother you, Your Sacreds are Glamour so if they try to hit they miss mostly. But Ranged isn´t effected so Crossbows are hard. But your Loremistrss comes with a huge Glamour 3 Fire 1 and Astral 3. So get some revingoration in your Bless and use the really really cheap Glamour Spells. Until this , use Sacreds. The new Glamour Items like the Mask are outstanding, they can be Forged by a Lvl 2 Glamour Mage and gives G+1. The Sacred Unseen Commanders are really God Assasins and Spys as soon as you get the Mask of Face borrowing (Gives Stealth +30 and the Spy Trait). They are Snaky as F... and you can do really funny things with them if you get them in enemy Provinces and just let them Preach. The Glamour Enchatments and Globals makes it really hard for Enemys to do the Same. They can´t find your Provinces and you can build Fake Castles meanwhile covering your really ones. All your Sage-Queens have the Veil Army so your Enemy will never Know your real Army. Great for Multiplayer. If you get your Hands on Blood either by the only Hero so far or your Pretender Forge some Black Hearts and watch your Unweiled Commanders Assasinate enemy Commanders. Feminie is no Chaff Nation in my Opinion. Just use your Sacreds, Buff your Archers with Poison/Fire, and Cast the hell out of your enemys. Strong ones get a Mindblast every Sage Queen can cast, and weaker ones send to sleep with Glamour Mages. Undeads will get Sacred Wind which has a Huge 15+ AOE Effect. Finally I think Feminie is a great Nation, and if you use the new Stuff they are outstanding! Great Magic, the ability to Forge Items that change your Gameplay and annoy any Opponent who is brave enough to Challenge you. Just lure them in your Dominion and then let them never come back.
Hi Alyath, my hopes for my videos are to give players springboards for their own ideas on how to play the nations. I definitely won't always be correct as I don't have extreme practical experience in dominions 6 to pull from. Who knows where the meta will land right now afterall?
My videos are also geared with the perspective of player vs player games. So there is a constant concern over how much value something provides, versus can it defeat enemy player sacreds. With the bless you mentioned in your post it sounds like your strategy is geared toward fighting the AI, at which...heck yeah that will work! I'm learning versus the AI imprisoned is almost always the way to go to maximize your pretender value. Versus players though, a bless like the one you listed might struggle a lot versus stronger sacreds that have a more direct combat oriented bless (raw stats, weapon effects, etc).
I probably should highlight the pvp portion somewhere.
My favorite part about your post is how you highlighted how badass and versatile the glamour path is. Great work exploring the options to make spies/assassins/prophets! I still don't have the most experience with pure glamour magic, but its so far my favorite!
You skipped it so I'm unsure how important it is, but their sacred troops have an incredibly high stealth value (90), does that come up much?
In single player I think it might, the AI knows where your units are even in stealth and will try to patrol them out. In multiplayer I think players try more to predict your raids rather than patrol out raiders. At least thats what I do...
I know that in the background having greater than 40 stealth value is a big deal, but past that its kind of unimportant.
What is the hotkey to bring up the national spells and summons in pretender design?
S / C / or F5. I use F5.
Big tip when going through dominions 5 menus is to always hit '?' on each one. This will pull up a list of potential hotkeys. Its helped me fine some niche ones in cases that end up helping a ton!
Thanks. Yes I use these shortcuts but I often forget about '?' which is obviously the most useful! I had thought you had managed to filter the national summons but can now see that it's information from a magic site 2:07 - Subscribed, great channel :)@@ZanGames
I prefer longer videos
They are definitely a lot easier. The majority seems to prefer these shorter ones. So what I might do is make these quick overviews for the nations. But then if I find something I can deep dive into, I can make THOSE videos super long. I feel I could definitely do a longer form one on both the Nidbathed and the Crow Clan mage. But I should probably get some more practical experience in the field with those before I get to long form.
I am not sure if I fully understand how to expand. On the scale pretender I am having big problems with expanding.. .Am I supposed to make blessed units, Cloistered lady for bless and hope for the best ? >.< I am quite bad at dominions, complete noob so... Would love some nudge if possible!
Hi! I can try and tackle this in a video because boy is it TOUGH on this nation. I strongly recommend using an expander, like the golden lion for the job. Especially for newer players. Otherwise...i'd say its worth waiting in your capital an extra turn for recruitment. If there are lightly armored enemies nearby archers can do okay, otherwise probably look at knights or lady at arms. Ill give it another shot.
@@ZanGames Gotcha! Yeah I will be playing a noob LA game(Until will decide to change from them last minute) but might go awake pretender cause... Unless I waited 3 turns and got some decent troops, it was hard otherwise
Alrighty, gave it a shot! I was able to get something going by massing archers early on and avoiding heavy cavalry for the first province. Can probably get ~30-40 archers on turn 1 to supplement the first army. Then march that into an army with a lot of lightly armored units. Something like barbarians, woodsmen, light infantry/militia. I was able to actually get a province on turn 2 with little losses. After that I started recruiting the capital sacred because of the defense bless and used them to absorb lance charges. I also recruited the leader version of them at that point with a savant. I did not end up expanding turn 2 and instead unified both armies on the cap and then moved out. Losses were very minimal. Once I got the rest of the circle I swapped over to the cavalry and its easy pickings from there.
Riskier than the expander. Also not married to that defense bless. Someone else recommend +atk instead and that may be better?
@@ZanGames Will give it a try then1 Thank you so much for willing to even test it. Additional question, do you feel that expander pretender is better due to early game, or scales would be better due to mid/late game?
There is a lot of it depends there. Expanders help you get your feet off the ground, but have a moment of weakness just after expansion. Where its difficult to defend all the land you took from other players. Scales may struggle more earlier, but will have more gold / research later.
The land taken by an expander is also not as effective as if you had better scales, but you'll have more land. Its definitely a nation / player choice deal.
@@Miyokari
I don't see the home-bound tag that they have in Ind. Does that mean they don't lose hit points outside their territory, or does it just not show? In the description it still says their bound to their lands so wanted to double check
Feminie's special summoned versions are not home-bound, because Feminie found a way to use Glamour Magic to fool the Divine Decree that bound them there. I presume this involves creating magical illusions of the Giants in their homeland so that the Decree thinks they're still in prison or something. But yes, Feminie's Giants do not suffer Homesickness at all.
It honestly sounded like timey wimey magic from reading the heroes' description. It says they "recreated the conditions before the decree bound them." Whatever that means...
@ZanGames ah, so they did find a way to pull them out of that issue. Wonder if Ind continues to have it, because if so that would suck. The lost tribe for Ind was always useless in Doms5 because of the general lack of utility in making them homesick
@ZanGames My assumption is that they used Glamour magic to trick the old Pantokrator's decree into believing that the giants are still trapped. Kind of like letting the inmates out of prison while putting up a fake camera feed to convince people that everything is normal.
The spell is 'deceive the decree of the lost' and it costs glamour gems, I thought the implication was that the summon spell is tricking whatever is binding them to their lands (the Celestial Powers?) to think that they're still there.
Despite claims that Dom 6 was gonna be more army focused they are just retreading old ground with how these factions work. A whole faction of warrior women where none of the women fight because they send their big housecat and a bunch of giant dudes they summoned to do all of that lol.
I mean, that's still army-focussed. Using summons as opposed to troops you recruited doesn't fundamentally change that. As long as mages aren't completely dominating the mid/lategame, I'd say that they've still succeeded.
While I do pitch using the housecat and giant dudes, they would likely need to be supported by other more human based armies. There is just so much gold to recruit...