The Bottom of the Empathy Hole | Doug Wilson

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  • @joferg12
    @joferg12 Рік тому +69

    My epistemic penny this week: Some evangelicals are playing a theological Jenga game. The object of the game is to see how many blocks (doctrines) can be removed without the tower (the gospel) falling down. Players take pride in their skill and cleverness forgetting that Jenga is played in the still ,windless confines of basements and rec rooms. The tower would fall immediately in the real world. The New Testament carefully describes each block and each block is critical for the tower to stand under any circumstance.

    • @RaigDhaad
      @RaigDhaad Рік тому +8

      @@manager0175 and all the people of God responded “I don’t think so, skippy”

    • @mary-janechambers3596
      @mary-janechambers3596 Рік тому

      That’s an interesting way of putting it. Good point.

  • @mrs.garcia6978
    @mrs.garcia6978 Рік тому +34

    I love parents who actually parent. ❤

  • @reformedwheat5648
    @reformedwheat5648 Рік тому +28

    How refreshing to hear truth! Well done and thank you. Praying for Pastor Wilson and all of the true men of God ❤️ 🙏🏻

  • @cosmictreason2242
    @cosmictreason2242 Рік тому +23

    God commands obedience whether or not it comes from the heart. It does you no eternal good if it doesn't, but that does not mean that God wants you to disobey until your obedience can be given sincerely. That is folly

    • @erikawoods8975
      @erikawoods8975 Рік тому +1

      What you say sounds good, but can we be perfectly obedient and isn’t self control also a commandment throughout the New Testament? What is self control? And if we serve the Lord not from the heart that where is it coming from? Selfish ambition, fear?

    • @Mr_Gabbles
      @Mr_Gabbles Рік тому +6

      @@erikawoods8975self control is obedience when you’d rather not. It’s not following the whims of your heart over the word of the Lord. It’s difficult to have your desires transformed and conformed without obedience when you’d rather not.

    • @aallen5256
      @aallen5256 Рік тому +5

      Spanking a 3yo till they pretend to be pleased to see you isn’t a matter of obedience.

    • @cosmictreason2242
      @cosmictreason2242 Рік тому

      @@erikawoods8975 i highly highly recommend you look up the sermonaudio of Mark Jones on Antinomianism: the golden white devil (as it was called by a puritan). It will clarify this very helpfully for you. "Don't obey unless you feel like it",is actually a satanic lie that plays on our desire to be authentic. It actually functions as an excuse to sin. That idea of prioritizing being authentic to your self as the highest ideal is a worldly philosophy that comes from Sartre and is visible in every animated Disney musical from TLM through Frozen. What is the focus? Rebelling against parental authority to establish your own will as the path of enlightenment. That's a soul corrupting lie. I hope you'll listen to my recommendation. Ignore the revilers who will try to give your sin an excuse not to

    • @ethanmulvihill7177
      @ethanmulvihill7177 Рік тому

      @@aallen5256🙄

  • @katherinewilliams4500
    @katherinewilliams4500 Рік тому +1

    I've never heard ANYONE courageous or sure enough to say what he said at the end. Thank you Pastor Wilson.

  • @HartyBiker
    @HartyBiker Рік тому +35

    "If you don't want to be taken for a heretic, stop giving talks at Nestorian conferences." 😂
    Doug on fire again

    • @vashstampede5774
      @vashstampede5774 Рік тому

      I generally lean towards coward in the area I'm in but he's not wrong it's either one or the other.

    • @annakimborahpa
      @annakimborahpa Рік тому +1

      Please inform me as to what Pastor Wilson is referring to by the term "Nestorian conferences."

    • @HartyBiker
      @HartyBiker Рік тому +1

      @annakimborahpa the Nestorians were an early heretical group whose heresy was Christological in that they believed that the divine and human natures within Christ were separated rather than united in what we call the hypostatic union. Pastor Wilson was just using the name "Nestorian" as a catch-all for the kinds of people he is referring to, saying that if you don't want to be called a heretic, maybe don't do heretic things.

    • @annakimborahpa
      @annakimborahpa Рік тому

      So its was a convenient term of generic aspersion, Pastor Wilson figuring that no one would be offended by the use of Nestorius' name? Tell that to members of the Assyrian Church of the East who consider the term "Nestorian" to be an exonym.

  • @thewisceeeggg1624
    @thewisceeeggg1624 Рік тому +10

    Bless you Pastor Wilson

  • @dailytheology1689
    @dailytheology1689 Рік тому +6

    May God grant life to our friends, family, and neighbors. SDG

  • @fanman8102
    @fanman8102 Рік тому +57

    The Bottom of the Empathy Hole. How appropriate! I reached the bottom several years ago. Now I just tell people, “If your pastor gets in the pulpit and disagrees with the Bible, even slightly, run away as quick as you can. Unfortunately it seems harder and harder to find a pastor who stands by what the Bible says.

    • @00teatime
      @00teatime Рік тому +1

      Why are we raging war on empathy?

    • @artemthetrain14
      @artemthetrain14 Рік тому +8

      ​@@00teatimeempathy untethered from Biblical truth.

    • @00teatime
      @00teatime Рік тому

      @@artemthetrain14 seems weird. Like there are so many other things to be worried about. Maybe I don't understand.

    • @alekseyvalentinov9361
      @alekseyvalentinov9361 Рік тому

      That includes dispensationalism ;)

    • @lkae4
      @lkae4 Рік тому +1

      @@00teatimeBecause empathy is completely false.

  • @terrythompson5979
    @terrythompson5979 Рік тому +7

    Extra points for bringing Elinor & Marianne into the discussion!!

  • @calebfox103
    @calebfox103 Рік тому +30

    Hahahaha.... "Just give me five minutes and he'll mean it" Hahaha...
    Amen!

    • @kennorthunder2428
      @kennorthunder2428 Рік тому

      Funny, but others would equate it to confession through torture.
      However, spanking COMBINED with reasoning is true parenthood.

    • @kennorthunder2428
      @kennorthunder2428 Рік тому

      @manager0175 Didn't Got spank Israel?
      By what standard do you speak?

    • @kennorthunder2428
      @kennorthunder2428 Рік тому +1

      @@manager0175 Then why say "There is never a good reason to spank a child" - if you're not God?

    • @kennorthunder2428
      @kennorthunder2428 Рік тому

      @@manager0175 ​ Okay.
      Hopefully 1. You "grow" out of the consequences and find solace in a loving and disciplinary God. 2. You're learning to think more clearly as a result of our exchange. (because ideas out of context can quickly lead to wrong conclusions)
      PS. Also, be cautious regarding calling something abusive. 1. We humans tend to have an inflated ego and could easily find corporal punishment abusive because our ego got hurt. 2. If spanking is a LAST resort, then, actually, there is the assumption that something of an admonishing nature preceeded it. So why is that unreasonable? If it's a first resort, in a parental environment where parents had already explained in advance to the child when a spanking would occur, then it also serves as a brake to the parent because a criteria had been set. So why waste time trying to reason? A first "resort" would have been appropriate in that kind of situation. (Biblically: Because a sentence against an evil work is not swiftly executed, therefore the hearts of men are fully set to do evil) If that was NOT your situation, then your parents were caprious and without guidelines.
      PS When my mother thought that I had aged out of spanking, she locked me up in a dark cellar. I was terrified because of the dark and spiders. Most would say that was abuse. I don't remember my transgression, but I assume that I never did it again. (She only did is twice)
      PSS Children specifically remember when an injustice happens. They rarely remember when they justly deserved a spanking.
      PSSS as a former foster parent, where I was NOT allowed to spank a child, it's actually understandable why one should not spank a child - because a loving and trusting relationship has not been established between adult and child, and a child isn't sophisticated enough to understand a corrective spanking versus an abusive spanking.
      Perhaps therein lies your issue?

    • @kennorthunder2428
      @kennorthunder2428 Рік тому +1

      @@manager0175I'm 64, have 3 children. Oldest was spanked 3x, the rest never. But I still believe there's an appropriate time/cause for spanking.
      Those who advocate for spanking can't point to a biblical mandate as to when spanking should stop. - so discretion?

  • @PatrickKordoulis
    @PatrickKordoulis Рік тому +2

    Excellent. Thank you, pastor Wilson.

  • @BirdsofAccord
    @BirdsofAccord Рік тому +8

    2:59 that chuckle, hahaha 😂

  • @aquathamer707
    @aquathamer707 Рік тому +11

    The moment when Doug laughed at his own joke 🤌

  • @robslack5468
    @robslack5468 Рік тому +1

    Sobering, rousing battle-call! I loved how you tied the centrality of Christ, from Col. 1:17-18, into the chaos of a feelings-based experiential way of living. It’s the simplicity of fixing your eyes on Him, the author and perfect or of our faith, as the obvious and only antidote to the crazy, by way of the Big Picture super-Theology of all things in the universe being subjected to Him because of His worthiness! The best passage in the Bible to Celebrate Christ (col. 1), as the counter to being tossed around by emotional subjectivism. Peter walking on the water to Jesus, but with an orchestral score crashing and booming, to highlight the cosmic truth being illustrated by the “small” drama in the waves. Thank you for this message today, and praise Jesus Christ, the Lamb who was slain, who was and is, and is to come. /end weepy Charismatic-feeling interlude. /resume stoic doctrinal sobriety

  • @JoRich653
    @JoRich653 Рік тому +6

    Anything virtuous or noble untethered from truth will bring about great carnage and evil that makes virtue itself an abomintion.

  • @bobjubeck
    @bobjubeck Рік тому +2

    10 Godly sorrow brings repentance that leads to salvation and leaves no regret, but worldly sorrow brings death. 2 Corinthians 7:10.

  • @joejohnson9499
    @joejohnson9499 Рік тому

    As very common, I am grateful for your wisdom, Mr. Wilson. Though it takes some mental processing to extract the conservative and Christian stuffs, there is value that remains.

  • @simbawhite968
    @simbawhite968 Рік тому +3

    Awesome!😊

  • @mark0bravo
    @mark0bravo 8 місяців тому

    “the envy that drives every form of egalitarianism” 😮 wow, never heard it stated so on the nose!

  • @joeyrose1245
    @joeyrose1245 Рік тому +4

    A long theoretical tirade for a 3 year old girl who was engaged in playtime and wasn’t excited about seeing mommy. I mean, that’s exactly the issue here. I see the issue as a mother who is upset with her child’s reaction and not necessarily the child’s behavior.

  • @susanfike2713
    @susanfike2713 Рік тому

    Thank you

  • @lkae4
    @lkae4 Рік тому +1

    The idea that we can help train and grow the hearts of our children goes against everything the culture believes. Goes against much of what conservative Christianity believes too-- they think it's only the job of the Holy Spirit.

  • @r.sampson1421
    @r.sampson1421 Рік тому

    Ha ha ha I am looking forward to penultimate section but I will be patient.

  • @stephenreeves8297
    @stephenreeves8297 8 місяців тому

    On point !

  • @thetygerpulpitwithpastorglenn
    @thetygerpulpitwithpastorglenn Рік тому +2

    People wan to do what they want to do without consequences or condemnation.

    • @aallen5256
      @aallen5256 Рік тому

      This is about a 3yo who wasn’t as pleased to see Nancy as she wanted him to be. So she punished him physically.

    • @thetygerpulpitwithpastorglenn
      @thetygerpulpitwithpastorglenn Рік тому

      @@aallen5256 Something tells me that's a misrepresentation.

    • @barbarakeifer2275
      @barbarakeifer2275 Рік тому

      It was her daughter and she was 8. Just the facts.

    • @aallen5256
      @aallen5256 Рік тому

      @@thetygerpulpitwithpastorglenn I encourage you to find the clip yourself

    • @aallen5256
      @aallen5256 Рік тому

      @@barbarakeifer2275 Nancy says “she’s probably 3 or 4, pre-school age”

  • @johnpeters5539
    @johnpeters5539 Рік тому +3

    This would be a great book idea for someone at Canon Press: The corporate leadership influencer business has taken to criticizing the Golden Rule, saying it's not true based on the reason that people like and want different things (as if the Golden Rule prohibits taking that into account). They're replaced it with something they call the Patinum Rule that is an unmemorable reframing that supposedly accounts for empathy. Please check it out. Thank you!

  • @bobjubeck
    @bobjubeck Рік тому +3

    Could it be this simple: "19 This is the verdict: Light (sanity) has come into the world, but men loved darkness (insanity) instead of light (sanity) because their deeds were evil (insanity). 20 Everyone who does evil (insanity) hates the light (sanity) and will not come into the light (sanity) for fear that his deeds (insanity) will be exposed. 21 But whoever lives by the truth comes into the light (sanity), so that it may be seen plainly that what he has done has been done through God (the only One who can truly make and keep one sane).” Johnn 3:19-21.

  • @Guy-xr8lj
    @Guy-xr8lj Рік тому +13

    The cycle of insanity begins with not spanking kids.

  • @TypicalTGreen
    @TypicalTGreen Рік тому +6

    Awe Aunt Nancy! She's so cool 😊👍

  • @bnato8209
    @bnato8209 Рік тому +6

    I am perplexed in trying to identify what biblical principle/command Nancy is following to issue corporal discipline because her child was not joyfully happy greeting her when she came to retrieve the child from a friends house. Perhaps someone can enlighten me. I do see a biblical command to not strike your parents, that one is clear.

    • @GageHerrmann
      @GageHerrmann Рік тому

      She was at her friend's house. Mom arrived. It was time to go. Child was not happy about that. Disobedience.

    • @aallen5256
      @aallen5256 Рік тому +4

      @@GageHerrmann The 3yo said “oh, is it time to go?” And Nancy / you think that’s disobedience warranting physical punishment?!?!

    • @MikeFree22
      @MikeFree22 Рік тому +3

      @@aallen5256 What I find bizarre…is you who think your angry verbal scoldings after the moment has passed are somehow more righteous or less damaging than a swift controlled physical reminder that a particular behavior is not right and will not be tolerated. As if well controlled corporal punishment is abuse and your rants are not.
      Hypocrites.

    • @aallen5256
      @aallen5256 Рік тому +1

      @@MikeFree22 lol what “rants” and “angry verbal scoldings”? You know that Nancy waited till “the moment” had passed too, right? Before spanking a toddler for not being as pleased to see her as she would have liked! You can’t hit a child until they’re pleased to see you.

    • @bnato8209
      @bnato8209 Рік тому +5

      @@GageHerrmann So the child stating "oooooh is it time to go?' is disobedience and deserves a spanking? Not greeting your parents joyfully is disobedience to who's standard? Nancy's preference or a biblical standard? I am not aware of any biblical standard as such.

  • @PurePuritan
    @PurePuritan Рік тому

    Your best vid in my opinion

  • @nicolcacola
    @nicolcacola Рік тому +5

    Spanking a 3 year old 20-30 times for a naptime issue is not biblical discipline, thats abuse.

  • @treybarnes5549
    @treybarnes5549 Рік тому

    What is amazing about all of this is the lack of men getting together and praying. What God hears from us is … nothing. when we get together it’s for condemnation them or congratulating us. No prayer even in the designated time for prayer. I’m astonished

  • @jannyjt2034
    @jannyjt2034 Рік тому +3

    So it seems the real dilemma of out time is defining morality and righteousness. One from an empathetic secular view ang the other from a "traditionalist" biblical view.

    • @jannyjt2034
      @jannyjt2034 Рік тому

      @@manager0175 The are in a sense that they can't withstand modern sophistry (language games posing as knowledge). The secular empathy perspective uses progressive terminology to define morality but even that uses ideas from Christian theology and twist the words to mean something else. Traditionalists can never get around the sophistry because the sophist (progressives Marxist, etc) use their language to deceived them. There is really only one real option: not to be complacent and know your principles. I believe all the drama and deception that is occurring is because people passively accept common knowledge and virtue without thinking it through. Therefore we truly are the blind leading the blind.

  • @buglepong
    @buglepong Рік тому +1

    13:17 what does it mean by "pagan"? some pagan ideas have been around since forever, like in catholicism. liberalism is christian values without the _church_ .

  • @illusionary5951
    @illusionary5951 Рік тому +1

    I think what is interesting is what Paul was dealing with in his time. And then there is the issue of the branch grafted into the "vine". If one back tracks to Moses you see the 3 magicians that crossed with him over the red sea? You see God questioning him as to what he was doing his response even more interesting. You have the wheat & the tares.......The infiltration as it were the crowding out.....Most insightful pictures these are. We have the statement of the shaking & nothing remaining that God Himself didnt build We have the 5 wise the 5 foolish virgins. The warnings are there. Little understand the times & seasons we find ourselves in........Nothing new under the sun ! Those who are "citizens" of the Kingdom of God acknowledge that without Him we are nothing so coming from the place of gratefulness is as natural as a fish swimming in water? And we teach our children those statues of acknowledging God in all that we do....Praising God always for salvation & deliverance into His marvelous light. My Dad would always say "feelings" will lie to you & they do !!!!

  • @bobjubeck
    @bobjubeck Рік тому +1

    How do we reconcile John Piper's family issues with his teaching?

    • @AslanRising
      @AslanRising Рік тому +1

      You err in assuming right parenting guarantees right children. If this were the case how did Adam fall? For certainly God is the perfect parent.
      Furthermore, the Christian ought not be pragmatic about that which God commands. We ought not ask, "Will what God says, work?", but rather we should be humble and say, " Yes Lord.".

    • @AslanRising
      @AslanRising Рік тому +4

      Regarding evangelical Christians leading the way in divorce, I'd like to see the evidence of this. Furthermore, calling oneself a Christian no more makes you a Christian then calling my Dodge Neon a BMW makes it a BMW.
      And finally, if we say we have no sin we are a liar and the truth is not in us. The Gospel is sufficient for the Christian too.

    • @AslanRising
      @AslanRising Рік тому

      @@manager0175 you will not what?

    • @AslanRising
      @AslanRising Рік тому +1

      @@manager0175 certainly God has given us brains, God has created order, He is the logos. And He even says, "Come let us reason together.". We should think. But this is not what you seem to be saying. It seems you're saying that unless God convinces why something He says is true, you will not obey Him. If I misunderstand you I apologize. If I am correct, I am compelled to say, you fool. Would you instruct God? Can God learn from you? Shall God repent of His doing because you say so? Where were you when He spoke into existence all that is?

    • @AslanRising
      @AslanRising Рік тому

      @@manager0175 setting aside? Sir, if you merely set aside Gods word because you disagree with it, you must question whether you are in Christ. Now, if you don't believe yourself a Christian well then thats a different question altogether.
      God cannot fail. So...before I go further let me clarify. Are you saying the Bible isn't God's word, and therefore we should only follow what works? Or are you saying the Bible is Gods word, but at times you don't think it works (God got it wrong) and we shouldn't follow it in those cases?

  • @DCMT80
    @DCMT80 10 місяців тому

    As someone who grew up in the Reformed tradition and attended the aforementioned Calvin University (back when it was still called Calvin College and had some sense of doctrinal integrity), I find the disintegration of evangelism disheartening. I'm not going to use the word "sad" to describe my feelings about this, as that would be approaching the capitulation of being saved by emotions through faith. The idolatry of evangelicalism has resulted in everyone needing to self-conceptualize what "loving as Jesus would love" means, instead of identifying why Jesus loved. Christ's birth, life, death, resurrection, i.e. his atonement, was not merely an emotional action which resulted him feeling better about himself. His atonement was so we could approach the throne of God when we could not ever do so ourselves. Making evangelicalism simply about sharing and displaying our misinterpretation of " the love of Jesus", our " love" then makes us feel better about ourselves, and provides a temporary emotional warm and fuzzy happiness. Jesus never displayed his love in a way to make himself feel better, but portrayed his love in a way that transcends our understanding of love. We like "loving" to give us happiness, instead of sacrificing to give us joy.
    Consider it pure joy, my brothers and sisters, whenever you face trials of many kinds, because you know that the testing of your faith produces perseverance. Let perseverance finish its work so that you may be mature and complete, not lacking anything. James 1: 2-4
    We must remove the "high places" of "the evangelicalism of loving like Jesus" and "emotional worship". We must reorganize the greatest commandments back into the right order. It's really easy to love our neighbor as ourself, and say this is how Jesus loved. But first and foremost, Jesus loved the LORD with all of his heart, soul, mind, and strength. The love that Jesus displayed for people never replaced his love for his father.
    Thank you Pastor Wilson for sharing your wisdom.

  • @forestgiest1380
    @forestgiest1380 Рік тому +2

    I love the complete lack of understanding of what "pagan" means.

  • @theanarchistbiblestudy3578
    @theanarchistbiblestudy3578 11 місяців тому

    *Mic drop from space*

  • @williambarry8015
    @williambarry8015 Рік тому +27

    For a bunch of "Nutjobs" you sure did seem like a happy healthy family to me.👍👍

    • @connorperrett9559
      @connorperrett9559 Рік тому +1

      Having a happy, healthy family makes you insane by modern psychological standards. The Science says that the model of mental health is a depressed, lonely, anxious, stressed, career obsessed single urbanite on a cocktail of medications to keep them from completely collapsing into hysteria.

    • @williambarry8015
      @williambarry8015 Рік тому

      ​@@manager0175We're living in a One Party Rule Fascist Theocracy. The official State religion is the Religion of Whoak.

  • @langer747
    @langer747 Рік тому +2

    J G Machen
    That Jesus is indeed mysterious. Who can fathom the mystery of His Person? But the mystery is a mystery in which a man can rest. The Jesus of the New Testament has at least one advantage over the Jesus of modern reconstruction-- He is real. He is not a manufactured figure suitable as a point of support for ethical maxims, but a genuine Person whom a man can love. Men have loved Him through all the Christian centuries. And the strange thing is that despite all the efforts to remove Him from the pages of history. There are those who love
    Him still.
    Christianity and Liberalism

  • @Celticbavarian
    @Celticbavarian Рік тому

    3 words: tour de force

  • @bobjubeck
    @bobjubeck Рік тому

    However, when the Son of Man comes, will he find faith on the earth?” Luke 18:8.

  • @t8br00k36
    @t8br00k36 Рік тому +3

    Don’t spank kids.

  • @camirichardson7485
    @camirichardson7485 Рік тому

  • @Yesica1993
    @Yesica1993 Рік тому +4

    Aw, why not post the clip? I can't listen to the response before seeing the original thing. I like to form my own view of things before listening to any commentary on it. I'm a weirdo like that.

    • @brentives4688
      @brentives4688 Рік тому

      I don't have a link handy but if you search for #spankinggate you'll find it quickly.

    • @Yesica1993
      @Yesica1993 Рік тому

      If this was a Twitter thing, then I am out of luck. Still locked out after over a year. Aggravators!@@brentives4688

  • @LRibeiro97
    @LRibeiro97 Рік тому +4

    "They" want you to believe there are only 2 rival factions, and that you need to "pick one of the 2 sides".
    Don't fall for it.

    • @umaikakudo
      @umaikakudo Рік тому +1

      There is a dichotomy, and it was defined by Christ. The narrow road that leads to life does have two broad ditches on either side filled with all the godless right wing and left wing idolatry.

    • @LRibeiro97
      @LRibeiro97 Рік тому +1

      @@umaikakudo
      Ahh yes, the classic
      immanentization of the eschaton error.
      Not that rare nowadays.

    • @person6768
      @person6768 Рік тому +2

      There are two the right way and the wrong way. No matter how many different ways you're wrong it's still just you doing things the wrong way.

    • @LRibeiro97
      @LRibeiro97 Рік тому +1

      @@person6768
      What is the right way to do politics?
      Could you describe all specific details and how it is wrong to disagree with any of them?

    • @ethanmulvihill7177
      @ethanmulvihill7177 Рік тому +1

      @@LRibeiro97Nerd🤓

  • @ApollosHagman_17
    @ApollosHagman_17 Рік тому

    “The problem of these Idahoans who still discipline their children”😅 “conservative believers, you know, believers in Jesus.” Gold. Too bad he brought Lewis in who always put feelings (romanticism). And he despised scripture whenever it didn’t match human consensus on morals he called the Tao.

    • @Julia29853
      @Julia29853 Рік тому

      Huh? You are making things up

    • @ApollosHagman_17
      @ApollosHagman_17 Рік тому

      @@Julia29853 do… do you even know who CS Lewis is? The man who said if he wants to worship a God who is “good” he can’t worship the God of scripture. The man who said humanity needed no guidance from God’s Word on how to live right. A man who declared it doesn’t matter what the purpose of Christ’s death and resurrection was. Who practiced necromancy and believed paganism was inspired by God… that’s the guy I’m referring to

  • @roxannelain7138
    @roxannelain7138 Рік тому +1

    Someone. Quick. What’s his word count in just over 20 minutes?
    Geez! Spitfire Doug. I’m going to have to listen again.
    Summary. Evangelicalism needs to repent and seek the true God!!!

  • @Yesica1993
    @Yesica1993 Рік тому

    * reads into *
    Sigh. Now what happened?!

  • @MikeBradleyJ
    @MikeBradleyJ Рік тому +6

    Punishing attitudes? Nah. Stick with behaviors.
    FWIW, my views on punishing attitudes are based on what I learned from the non-conforming John Owen. I'd cite sources, but I don't have them handy. Judgement of any sort ought be a result of actions, because that's how God treats us. God judges based on word, thought, and deed. Actions prove the heart which proves the man. That's the flow of it. Imagine a court of law with the ability to say, your behavior is legal but we will punish you for your attitude. Our courts reflect God's court in this manner. Likewise Jesus, who knew what was in the heart of man, judged based on actions. Causality flows the opposite way. A bad tree has bad branches which produces bad fruit. A fallen man, has a fallen heart, out of which flows fallen actions. The root problem is neither behavior, nor attitude, but our root and our rootedness. Hence Jesus and the gospel. God doesn't save us merely at the behavior level (moralism), nor at the heart level (though that's awesome), but he makes a new man -- a new creation. In my opinion, keeping this thinking clear, creates a more pure and more simple gospel belief in me, which then (I hope), is more understandable by my children. To put it in what I think Owen would say: "To think to fix a heart-issue with the efforts of man is to render the gospel and the death of Christ to no effect." Or something like that. -- Cheers

    • @ethanmulvihill7177
      @ethanmulvihill7177 Рік тому +3

      I believe with children there isn't much of a difference between attitude and behavior. I'm sure you know what I mean.

    • @manager0175
      @manager0175 Рік тому

      You said: "Punishing attitudes? Nah. Stick with behaviors." AMEN! AND AMEN AGAIN!

    • @JamieSolesMusic
      @JamieSolesMusic Рік тому +4

      Deuteronomy 28:47-48 Because you did not serve the Lord your God with joyfulness and gladness of heart, because of the abundance of all things, therefore you will serve your enemies whom the Lord will send against you, in hunger and thirst, in nakedness, and lacking everything. And he will put a yoke of iron on your neck until he has destroyed you.
      God, punishing unthankful attitudes in his children since the Exodus from Egypt.

  • @brettschlee7090
    @brettschlee7090 Рік тому

    But Pastor Wilson, just think of the faux-sympathy you could get for being married to such a vicious, violent abuser! You could be the victim for once! 😆

  • @JRRodriguez-nu7po
    @JRRodriguez-nu7po Рік тому

    Oh yes, definitions first, and who gets to define? What is a covenant? How the Bible defines it (many between God and men such as Noah and David) or human theologians? Wilson is a Christian, and an intelligent faithful brother (total depravity affects us all). However, Wilson, James White and many other True excellent Christians, replace some Biblical definitions with their own.
    Now, I agree with what Wilson says in this video, but Wilson is not consistent. I am a physician who has treated intergenders. While in the beginning there were only 2 sexes, male first and then female by subtraction (Y deficiency as only one X is used in a cell): Christ recognized a third sex. Those that come as eunuchs from the womb (as did Rabbis of his day).
    For a man who is lauded for speaking precisely, including by himself, Wilson is consistently imprecise. In this video he is, as usual, accurate but imprecise; giving opening for the Enemy.
    I don't hate Wilson. I'm disappointed that he's unable to think clearly.

  • @LIGHTBEARER-bs3dr
    @LIGHTBEARER-bs3dr Рік тому +3

    Pastor Wilson, you love publicity.

    • @Lombokstrait1
      @Lombokstrait1 Рік тому +1

      He an attention seeking harlot. It helps bring in zee moneeee'

    • @justin10292000
      @justin10292000 Рік тому

      ​@@Lombokstrait1By what objective standard do you decide making a living a bad thing?

    • @Lombokstrait1
      @Lombokstrait1 Рік тому +2

      @@justin10292000 Preying upon the vulnerable, desperate, and weak minded is not an admirable way to make a living.

  • @bretlynn
    @bretlynn Рік тому

    For those keeping score
    conservative Catholics = allies
    CERC guys enjoying a little WBS = "damn them to hellfire for all eternity"

    • @ethanmulvihill7177
      @ethanmulvihill7177 Рік тому +1

      And yet here you are. His logic is clear. This comment is not.

  • @peakedmalefeminist9782
    @peakedmalefeminist9782 Рік тому +4

    After watching this video of your wife I will not ever listen to you again. Doubling down on it doesn’t make you right.

    • @smileasif
      @smileasif Рік тому +3

      What makes you right? What's your standard?

    • @peakedmalefeminist9782
      @peakedmalefeminist9782 Рік тому +3

      @@smileasif the millstone passage isn’t just for pedophiles. People who would abuse their authority for arbitrary reasons like mentioned here get their millstones too.

    • @ethanmulvihill7177
      @ethanmulvihill7177 Рік тому +4

      @@peakedmalefeminist9782That... isn't a reason? That's assuming abuse. You've only presupposed the conclusion.

    • @smileasif
      @smileasif Рік тому

      @@ethanmulvihill7177 look at her user name. Reason isn't her strong point

    • @retro-orthodox
      @retro-orthodox Рік тому

      @@ethanmulvihill7177It is abuse to physically discipline a child for not feigning excitement to see mommy. Notice the insane mother is focused on her daughter’s outward actions, not having it in her heart to be so excited to see her. She’s just acting out physically due to her own issues, nothing her toddler did.

  • @Lombokstrait1
    @Lombokstrait1 Рік тому

    Your belief in jeebus is only a feeling.

    • @justin10292000
      @justin10292000 Рік тому

      @Lombokstrait1 Your blasphemous comment is ridiculous. You are wrong, but don't take OUR word for it: you will find out for yourself soon enough!!

    • @PanhandleFrank
      @PanhandleFrank Рік тому

      """jeebus"""?

    • @Lombokstrait1
      @Lombokstrait1 Рік тому

      @@justin10292000 That's great! I love it when you guys use words like Blasphemous and heretic! It's straight outta the 17th century!
      Look it, your gawd has a thing for severed foreskins.
      It is a big, gigantic, JOKE. It is absurd.

    • @MatthewMorizio
      @MatthewMorizio 11 місяців тому

      @@justin10292000 "...you'll find our for yourself soon enough!!" Brother, you can do better than this.

  • @hairypawter8475
    @hairypawter8475 Рік тому

    as horrid as your recent political positions have been. This is terrible that people are going after Nancy. All in all she seems a lovely women, and as bad as you get politics, you get domestic life very right and show true Biblical grace and leadership in that domain.

    • @brettlee6325
      @brettlee6325 Рік тому

      What are his horrid political positions?

    • @ethanmulvihill7177
      @ethanmulvihill7177 Рік тому +4

      @@brettlee6325The horrid notion that Jesus might be King of this world and not only of Heaven and some hazy future 😱😱😱

    • @hairypawter8475
      @hairypawter8475 Рік тому

      @@brettlee6325 Hes boilerplate conservative inc/neocon talking points. You say genocide is wrong and he starts talking about how you envy Jews. and uses left wing cynical manipulation of identity politics to deflect from discussion of the issue. Basically, neoconservative old tire irons which are neither new nor conservative. Same old ex marxist Jewish nonsense in wolves clothing. Disgraceful stuff

  • @bloodmooncomix457
    @bloodmooncomix457 Рік тому +1

    CALIFORNIA:
    Sorry, no matter what Gavin Newsom says, nothing will make me feel comfortable living in Arkham Asylumn! 🫵😲😬🙄😒😤🇺🇸