Oh Boy, Mario Fans Are At It Again...
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Are mario fans EVEN mario fans anymore?
If they're hating on a new Mario hame, then I guess not.
It seems they transformed into Pokémon fans.
Mario fans are trying to stoop to the lows of the Sonic fandom.
People just hate everything now. I blame twitter
@@Nintenblox I doubt even Twitter would be this braindead.
Fans have been hating on Odyssey ever since Bowser’s Fury came out for no reason. As for Wonder, they’re just looking for a way to hate on it.
i can't understand why some people don't like oydessy but it's a but excessive to hate on it considering how popular it is Mario Wonder d Deserves no hate
Odyssey is the best Switch game of all time
Wonder’s art style was way too childish for me. The New Super games were the perfect mix of family friendly, but adults would still enjoy it. I don’t see the same with wonder.
Again, this is just my opinion. I’m not just “looking for a reason to hate wonder.”
I’ve never heard anything
@ts7844 no
I didn't know Mario fans were secretly Sonic fans.
That’s the funny part they aren’t who ever made the video is only targeting one minor part of the Mario fandom
The Mario fandom was always dogshit.
*prowler theme*
Oydessey is a 3D Mario masterpiece. I dont care what the loud minority thinks. Theres a reason why it sold 25 million+
and that's what's annoying to me, it's the fact that it's the loud minority. It's annoying because a lot of the takes against Odyssey really don't make any sense. I mean i've seen people say that Odyssey's moons are useless because they vary in difficulty yet still have the same value, but this goes for both Sunshine and 64 also. I mean for example you have Thwomp's fortress, were one star you literally just go left, go down and do any sort of high jump such as a triple or wall jump and reach the star, which is vastly more easy compared to other stars in Thwomp's fortress. I don't even have an issue with that but I'm just sick of hypocrites using logic against Odyssey which wouldn't even stand against the games they praise like 64 and Sunshine.
@@Daft0Cean968 Not understanding a criticism, doesn't mean it doesn't make sense. In 64 and Sunshine, the star/suns represented progress through the game. They varied in difficulty, but that didn't matter because finding one always felt rewarding. In Odyssey, the moons are over abundant, many hidden with no greater challenge than random coins, and are arguably less important than coins to the overall game. They ultimately suffer the same problem that the Blue Coin Challenges suffered in Sunshine, they aren't worth the effort of finding.
@@bethanyh1637Wrong you don't need a guide to get the moons because the blue Toad and the parrot helps you.
My dislike of Odyssey is mostly just out of the too many moons thing. Specifically them being easy to get. When it comes to the movement, aside from the fact it doesn't have a sunshine spin jump, I find it great. Heck, while not 1-1, there's a reason this sort of movement was modded into SRB2 for a Mario mod. And I love it there too.
What is the reason? That game sucks.
I swear as both a Mario and Sonic fan, Mario fans are turning into Sonic fans with just how much they like to complain.
Some Sonic games were a little lackluster just as some Mario games were. But both have gotten much better in recent years.
Same
@@MacUser2-il2cxTrue
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That's because they're not as prone to reselling older titles like SEGA does, While I am more of a Sonic guy I respect what Mario goes for though tbh most of the Mario games are repetitive and have the same story plot over and over awhile Sonic goes for different villains and stories
Even if some of the games failed at least SEGA tried, I'm not saying Nintendo doesn't try and Peach Showtime is a good start they hardly change up the Mario formula
But fans make Nintendo sound worse then what they actually are
Unfortunately this always happens, everyone loves a game, then a bit of time passes and they decide they hate it and then when the next game comes out everyone will inevitably start loving it again 🙄
yeah then they say OH i mISs tHE GoOD Old DaYS
i hate this cycle a lot
@@davilucca4094”NINTENDO WAS NEVER GOOD” they say
Literally TOTK.
@@davilucca4094 The craziest thing is that I've seen people say that they miss the Wii U days, and Nintendo was much better than today.
Fans has taken Odyssey WAY TOO seriously, even i have this game and i loved it!
same
Same
Same!
Same
I liked it. I didn't love it though. There are way better games in general than Odyssey.
these aren't mario fans, they're tourists
Fax they don’t even make up any of the major mario fandom
This is literally a repeat of what happened in the godzilla fandom earlier this year.
They are Marion't fans
Can’t people just be satisfied
Of course not, we're humans.
@@rockowlgamer631 true
Nope! A world where people can be grateful is only in a alternate universe
I wish
Think of all that work the developers put into their game just to get criticized😭😭
The reason people liked the old games is the fact that there wasnt as much negativity and people took the game for what it was
Yea, I honestly just blame the internet (or ig just social media) at this point for making it easy to spread negativity
And that's not just for Mario games, but the gaming industry as a whole, everyone's too busy shouting "gAMiNg iS DyiNG" whenever a bad game comes out, as if bad games were a new thing, and then proceed to generalize that to saying even the good games we have now aren't as good as the older ones
I personally think the Switch is Nintendo's best console, and I'm pretty sure someday we're all gonna be nostalgic for it, like, even the Wii U is getting there now...
@@marcoalves9029Especially they don’t know that Nintendo so far is literally carrying the future of gaming so far despite being shady along with Sony and Microsoft. At least you don’t see Nintendo acquiring multiple studios and publishers and not doing anything with them, along with buffing up prices at 100-120 dollars which is really crazy.
@@justinyoon2840as someone who owns a PC, PS5 and a Switch, I can confidently say that, in my opinion, Nintendo makes the best and highest quality games. They’re simply pure fun, and almost every 1st party Nintendo game has a charm to it which no game has ever come close to mirroring. They are all so unique, so fun, the art styles are amazing. Meanwhile everyone else (Xbox, PlayStation) is too worried about ultra realistic graphics, and now every game looks the same.
Games don’t have art styles anymore on PS and Xbox. Save for a few titles like Elden Ring (but Elden Ring isn’t a 1st party game).
Long live Nintendo, and I love that they still make and support proper physical games. No downloading bullcrap - but proper physical games. Put in the cartridge, and play right away. No need to download the game contents. All the content is on the cartridge (except for updates obviously).
Despite all these things I love about Nintendo, I’m well aware that their Online services are very outdated. They don’t even have a party chat system. Whilst this doesn’t bother me, because I only play multiplayer games on PC/PS5, it’s still not an excuse because a lot of people only have a Switch, and the lack of a party chat system can be annoying. Meanwhile, PlayStation and Xbox have full on discord implementation on top of their party chat system. So yeah, they are lagging behind on the online aspect.
However, for 1st party Nintendo games, I could talk about how I love them for hours. I don’t think I’ve ever played a 1st party Switch game without smiling at least once at the art style, the expressiveness of characters despite the lack of voice acting, the charming worlds and puzzles, it’s just all so amazing.
And what’s so great is, I’ve barely even scratched the surface when it comes to Switch games. I’ve owned a Switch since December 2019, basically 2020. And there are still SO many games that I am extremely interested in buying in the future.
However, these are some of my favourite Switch games I’ve played so far (in no particular order)
1. Zelda: Breath of the Wild
2. Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom
3. Super Mario Odyssey
4. Super Mario Maker 2
5. Mario Kart 8 Deluxe
6. Pokémon Legends Arceus
7. Super Mario 3D World (not played Bowser’s Fury yet)
Games I own but have yet to play:
1. Skyward Sword HD
2. Link’s Awakening
Games I’d like to play in the future:
1. Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze
2. Super Mario Bros. Wonder
3. Pokémon Scarlet/Violet
4. Zelda: Echoes Of Wisdom (on release)
5. Mario VS Donkey Kong
6. Mario Party Superstars
The only reason that people like the old games so much (despite the fact that newer games are objectively better) is due to nostalgia, that’s it, pure nostalgia
Wait 6 more months when people are praising Mario wonder for being awesome
Sonic fans and Mario fans be joining together from loving games one moment to hating games another. It all came together to this.
People didn’t flip on these games. Fandoms aren’t a monolith. At the start, the majority opinion is the loudest. For these games, the majority opinion was positive. Then time passes, the accolades quiet down, and people who never liked the games in the first place feel safe and emboldened to share their negative opinions on the game.
As for people saying the games are bad…. I think to be bothered by it suggests that people are insecure about their opinions. Why should it bother me that somebody else didn’t like something that I liked? They aren’t obligated to like something just because I did. It doesn’t make my opinion less valid, nor does it mean that their opinion isn’t valid. Two opposite opinions can be valid at the same time, because different people can value different things in a game based on their personal past experiences. To say otherwise feels like opinion gate keeping. None of these games are objectively good. They can be subjectively good to a majority of people based on common values and game design principles that are held in high regard by the majority, but that still isn’t objectivity.
We need to normalize letting people dislike things that we love.
I think you're close. But real opinions do change. And the loudest opinion isn't always the majority.
@@bethanyh1637 on an individual level, sure. People’s opinions do change and evolve. But regarding the optics of what an entire fan base thinks, it’s far too often said that fandoms “can’t make up their minds,” which really annoys me. This notion that people who were singing a game’s praises are now the same people who are saying the game is actually bad is frankly absurd to me. I think that 9 times out of 10, you’re just seeing the opinions of a different subset of players within a fandom, not people who have radically changed their minds.
@@artsyomni You're right. The optics are near sighted. No one ever sees the entirety of a fanbase at any given time.
But hype can cloud peoples' judgment to the point that they might not be as open to criticism they otherwise would be. The typical pattern, no matter the medium, is always downward... praise becomes scorn or apathy. Sometimes apathy becomes praise, but almost never does anything move from scorn to praise. I've seen my opinion of something change too often and I've seen the general opinion of something change too often to attribute 90% to different groups.
@@bethanyh1637 well I can’t pretend to know the actual proportion of how often it can be attributed to different people expressing opinions at different times. I’d have to do some pretty thorough research to come to a real conclusion on that. But my intuition is that more often than not, that’s what’s happening. I have a hard time believing that people who are open minded enough to actually be persuaded from one position to a different one are also frequently going online to disown their own previous opinions in a public forum. I think more often, people are just giving hot takes that they were too timid to give when they were surrounded by vocal people who felt the opposite way.
I’ve had my own opinion of things shift in both directions. I enjoyed Skyward Sword a lot when it came out, but looking back, I can recognize its flaws. But because I’ve held both perspectives, I’m not exactly compelled to share some kind of incendiary take about it on twitter, because I think both perspectives are valid and don’t need to be challenged. Maybe I’m naive to think that other people will see it that way.
This guy is on to something. But calling Mario wonder a mobile game is kind of crazy.
I still want to know why the “bosses” in Wonder suck so much. Instead of coming up with original designs, they chose to make _every_ boss just a rehashment of Jr. Talk about lazy writing and wasted potential.
To make us miss the koopalings of course, and it’s working. I miss the koopalings.
Bosses were likely not a priority when making the game.
@@Crafty_boy70that's pretty much the problem with every mainline 2D Mario game. Why can't the devs evolve past this lazy mindset by now?!
For real
@@oliverhurt3418 First of all, defaulting to calling the devs "lazy" is a stupid and reductive. Such ideas are a plague in the gaming community. There could be many reasons why bosses in 2D Mario are bad. It could me that they didn't prioritize it and ran out of development time. (Bear in mind that this game _was not,_ in fact, developed over 10 years.) It could be that the devs simply aren't good at making bosses. It could be that they don't care about bosses, and only add them by necessity. Or it could just be that momentum platformers like Mario don't make for good boss fights.
As I shouted into the void the last time this happened, sometimes people just take up unpopular opinions, such as hating on well-received media, purely for the sake of attention, because they’re hot takes. In reality, they don’t have those opinions at all.
@@ClaireSoelberg-op8id orrrr people actually have those opinions but don’t get noticed/don’t voice them until the original hype of the game has died down.
Odyssey and Wonder are very overrated IMO, and *almost* every criticism I’ve seen against them are completely fair. It’s very sad people can’t have differing opinions than the majority without being absolutely trashed on for it.
@@JBLilPaper
That's fair. Faking hot takes definitely does not apply to everyone who criticizes these games.
I think you got mario fans mixed with sonic fans.
Why are people like this?
We will never truly understand Nintendo fans will we?
No idea. We are in a new era where we have Mario RPG classics coming back at the same time as brand new Mario games that are actually high quality and not just NSMB games getting copied and pasted over and over again with lackluster sequels.
I know right? I never understand fans, nowadays.
I think have an idea on why it is just natural for people's thoughts on things to change. A person can love something growing up, but than look back on it and realise it wasn't as good as they remember and vice versa.
Counterculture and the need to be different.
I love Mario to DEATH. The reason they are hating on the most recent popular Mario games (Oddysey, Wonder) is only because of your brain messing with you. If wonder was the only Mario game, people would actually appreciate this game a lot. Or maybe not. But there is a thing that I know: Their standarts are extremely high
I don’t care what people think. If the game is fun, then I will support it. If it is memorable, then I will support it for a long time. That’s just how it is for me.
Mario Fans: Super Mario Wonder is a "android game"
Me: Super Mario Wonder has PS5 graphics.
People only say Wonder has Android graphics because the system it’s on.
In my opinion, Wonder is like a dream. It’s real, but it doesn’t feel like it.
Super Mario Wonder is original af and i love it!!!!!
Neither are true
Super Mario Wonder graphics does not have android graphic for sure.
But i'm pretty sure Mario Fans can sometimes not be Mario Fans.
Sonic fans: First time?
“3 mario rpgs, 4 if you count mario and rabbids” mario & rabids sparks of hope left the chat
The first one was fantastic with the DK DLC. :D Sparks of Hope was alright too.
I’m pretty sure he means genres, not amounts, because if it was amounts, one of the Paper Marios would also have left the chat
Mario + Rabbids actually sucked
@@TheDHono nah the first one was pretty fun for me, havent played the 2nd one yet though
@@Narteketh Well the first one wasn't fun for me and I'm never playing the second one because of it
All anyone ever does is speculate and complain
True people need to stop complaining about games after about 5-6 months after it’s release because people are just looking for a reason to complain
@@Rashadplayz21Yeah
When people say Mario fans are not toxic like sonic fans those screenshots in the video are a perfect example why they are both equally as toxic
And yet that’s not even the full handful of them at all that’s just minor numbers 10 bad eggs when compared to millons more is such a hasty general
This doesnt just happen in video games man, people do this for attention no other reason, they want to be special.
We need a new Donkey Kong game.
@@MacUser2-il2cxAgreed
theyre special alright, special ed.
Yep and they want an excuse to get free games and come up with BS reasons to pirate and say Nintendo doesn't allow them to play older titles when every console had backwards compatibility and they're online service!
And they also get mad at them for shutting down Wii U and 3DS shop when no one cared for it to begin with only when Nintendo shuts it down is when they all of a sudden care
Yep, because their parents told them their whole lives they were. Only to discover they’re not.
For Mario Wonder, the reasons I dislike it are more like nitpicks, tbh.
Like, every character plays the same (aside from Yoshi and Nabbit, who are "easy mode" characters - though I don't get why Easy Mode isn't just a toggleable thing).
I also felt there is just some Power-Up drought in Wonder (Fire Flower, Elephant Apple, Bubble Flower, Drill Mushroom... oh, that's it?)
Then, of course, the actual elephant in the room - the bosses. Four Bowser Jr fights, then Bowser. The Koopalings could've really benefited from Wonder power for unique Wonder-induced attacks, yet we slandered them too much which I think caused Nintendo to just forget about the Koopalings. Though, more ORIGINAL BOSSES could've been a good thing, too. Gotta "stay fresh", as the Squid Sisters would say.
Also, Castle Bowser could've been a bit bigger of a world. Look at Mario 3D World's World Bowser, for instance. Castle Bowser is supposed to be one massive gathering where Bowser invites his entire army to watch his mind-manipulating rock concert and yet... there's only four levels in Castle Bowser. This game sure has a problem with the number four (FOUR Bowser Jr fights, FOUR Power-Ups, FOUR Castle Bowser levels. Where is this rule of FOUR coming from?!).
Just little nitpicks on my end, but they're not reasons to outright hate the game. Mario Wonder is still a great time!
It's people like them that are the problem with the Nintendo community.
It's like Zelda BOTW and Zelda TOTK haters. How in the world could you possibly hate those games?!! O.O
@@MacUser2-il2cxYeah fr! Those games are awesome!
how could they possibly have a different opinions!!>!?!!? how dare they!?!?! !
I bet your over-generalizations make the community a peach.
@MacUser2-il2cx i mean i kinda get it with TOTK. There's is alot of treading familiar ground in that game and i think that's why people were disappointed. However, i kinda was expecting that the game would basically be a mario galaxy 2 situation again, where it's just more breath of the wild. I think people were setting their expectations high due to how long it took to come out
Why are Mario Fans starting to act like Sonic fans
Edit: I say that as a fan of both
Because they want to make Nintendo look bad
🎵and thaat iiss, Irrroonny🎶
Wait it’s NOT just sonic fans that randomly hate on games like this?
Are they really mario fans? Or is it just sonic fans infiltrated
Clearly not because Sonic fans would’ve started off by saying Sonic beats mario then go on a 10-hour rant about power scaling and stuff like that
@emorybest1003 Oh yeah, I didn't account for that.
Don't be fooled what they just described is dragon ball fans@@Avarege-physics-and-mario-fan
@bradleydrake6941 oh sir surely you're right! But in all accounts, those negative opinions without any concrete evidence about our beloved mario is an agglomeration of every negative part of fandons in general
@@bradleydrake6941 hi
If being into gaming has taught me anything, it's that fans of each of those big companies are completely insane.
Since when did mario fans become so toxic 😕 🙄 😒
This title could literally mean ANYTHING
The new UA-cam meta is to have two titles, the thumbnail has the real title while the title gives clarification
"Do you know how little that narrows it down."
clarinet
No one hates Mario games more than Mario fans 😔
Not true. I’ve been a Mario fan as long as I’ve been alive and I don’t hate on Mario games
@@Cubbie410 dawg that was a joke 😭
@@Cubbie410
It's a reference to a popular saying within the Star Wars fandom
I don't hate Mario but I also don't like Mario
I love games like 64, Sunshine, Kart 64 and Wii along with Mario World and the spin off's like Luigi Mansion and the party games but most of the Mario games are repetitive and repeats the same story and same villain
Galaxy is a great game but I think that would have been a perfect chance to bring us a new villain someone other than Bowser I'm really just sick of the same thing over and over but there are still Mario titles I love like what I listed and a few more
@@smallbag123 and @HMMadsen I said what I said
Why are people like this ? Mario odyssey was the reason that I got a switch when it came out. I love the Mario community for so many years for their creativity, and share in love in the games. Can't people just be satisfied.
It’s for two reasons. Popularity and internet.
Those kind of people should not be trusted
Mario fans have sonic fans opinions sometimes changing opinions drastically
Tell me about it, After 06 they only wanted Sonic playable and then when Forces came out changed they're minds
Super Mario Odyssey got criticism 1 year after it's release it's not a recent thing so it isn't as drastic as you may think it is it started to get criticism after the hype died down
It's a very small minority and isn't anything near the Sonic fandom.
@@Josue_S_6411 It's also worth noting the hate for Super Mario Odyssey is not a more recent thing people have been criticizing the game 1 year after it came out
@@elioridacowwait is that really the reason..... YOUVE GOT TO BE FUCKING KIDDING ME
Ah, yes, Mario Wonder the game I completed only in a few days along with getting a 100% on my file.
The Switch has the best original Mario games and Mario remasters. The Switch is what saved Nintendo.
It makes sense why Nintendo doesn't take the internet as legit because of people like these
Mario fans after 6 months: Nintendo was really forgotten about mario
Sounds like those fans has no taste
it's just feels like twitter were people get offend by literally everything
It pretty much is like twitter! They will love your stuff for awhile but eventually they'll hate it for whatever reason
@@elioridacow yeah it’s stupid but in the meantime I’ll relax make videos or overplay video games and have a great time
What does people expect had me dying 😂
It would piss me off if anyone said to my face that all 2d platformers are as simple as a mobile game, that’s insane, obviously simplicity was something old 2d games like Mario world and sonic had and most of those have mobile versions now but the 2d games also evolved making them a lot more complex than just two buttons. I’d like to see someone try to play donkey Kong country on a phone, it just ain’t happening
Twitter should take the time to sit down and think, “is what flaws these games have really make them as bad as we think?”
They won't, the average twitter user doesn't exist irl
The Sonic fan virus is effecting other fan bases now
While Wonder and Odyssey aren't in my top ten Mario games, I enjoyed playing them and would never say they suck. Even though they're not my favorite, I still think Wonder and Odyssey are amazing games that shouldn't be hated on.
Because new games become old games and nothing makes someone more mad than thinking older games were better than overpriced new games.
Happens to Mario sonic fire emblem etc. It's why I loved seeing paper Mario ttyd release again same with Mario rpg. Pretty much destorys that logic instantly
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Yall Oddysey is peak I had it since Release and I still only 100%’d ONE Kingdom
Odyssey is the best game in the series. Period
Agreed
Debatable
@@FUZE_JUICe You know a game is great when the main complaint is that there's too much content
@@LEGO_NASCAR not even my complaint, just that in my opinion odyssey isnt the best one in the series
@@FUZE_JUICe I know, but I'm just saying that because that's the most common criticism it gets.
They’re just trying to be different or they never played them I personally would replay them anytime if I wanted
I saw someone on a comment section say Sonic Mania absolutely sucks and there is nothing good about it. I immediately knew he was just trying to be different.
“Mario odyssey is too easy” 🤓☝️
I am a sonic and mario fan myself but i really hate how people are acting ungrateful on the games the developers worked hard on
Feel bad for the developers
Super Mario Odyssey and Super Mario Bros. Wonder do NOT suck!! 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬
I agree
IMO People are idiots😤…(Except you😊)
@@matthewsianipar8955 oh okay
@@mabilynsantos and @douglassheridan8497 as well😁
@@matthewsianipar8955 oh!
I loved the Mario community for so long because of their creativity and share of their love in the games,but recently we've been losting it
They’re turning into sonic fans let’s hope it stops before they start the fanfic phase
Wonder is such a fun game ! I honestly love most Mario games ! Some def lack some stuff but for the most part you can tell they truly put love into their games
Mario odyssey is literally my favorite game of all time it doesn’t deserve the hate.
honestly, idc abt other people, if i like it then ill play it. and nintendo has been COOKING!!!
Seems like Nintendo fans aren't used to critiscism lol
Oh no are Mario Fans turning into the Sonic Fans?!
No way people think that Mario odyssey is WORSE than Mario 3D land💀. Mario 3D land is amazing, in fact, I grew up playing it. It’s just nowhere near as good as odyssey 😔
Kirby and the Forgotten Land is the GOAT of all Kirby games!
As a Mario fan, I love Super Mario Odyssey, the gameplay was fun and the graphics/cutscenes were amazing, better than Sunshine imo. Super Mario Bros. Wonder is also amazing as well, all though it’s not my personal favorite, it still is one of the best Mario games I’ve played. It has so much unique features that the previous NSMB games don’t have. I do agree that the boss battles were pretty lazy and the game felt pretty short. But overall both of those games were absolutely amazing and fun.
I wish Super Mario Odyssey's main collectibles were more rare and valuable. Super Mario Odyssey moons are found all over the kingdoms, and are just as common as groups of purple regional coins. Most moons are hidden in the same way as a group of 3 purple coins. Even the multi moons just increase your moon count by 3. There isn't a unique collectible that there is only 100 of in the entire game that specifically come from the longer main quests and side adventures as opposed to the small secrets that you come across every few seconds.
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Mario fans turning into what the Sonic fans are
I believe these types of people exist in all fandoms
Nintendo has forgotten about Cooking
They sure are
Sonic fans: first time?
In an ironic twist sonic fans are not being too harsh on Sega lately, I mean they still always complain like every fan base does but it hasn’t been insane. Sonic fans are praising Sega for not rushing the development of the newest sonic game, really the only complaints are going to paramount because of the sonic movie 3 trailer’s absence
@@thebrickbros.1294Ever since Frontiers was able to jump back up despite its issues and criticisms, it was still a good Sonic game at least. For the movies side of things… yeah it’s kind of an issue here.
@@justinyoon2840 oh I was talking about sonic X shadow generations, not frontiers but you do have a great point.
@@thebrickbros.1294 The only time that the Sonic fans have been complaining most of the time was Forces since the game had tons of backlash. Thank god from Frontiers and now Sonic x Shadow generations aren’t getting tons of backlash so far.
@@justinyoon2840 I wouldn’t say it was the only time, clearly you don’t know this fan base as well if you think that forces was the only complained about game. Sonic 06 was one of the worst games of all time and nearly ruined the entire franchise, sonic and the secret rings was a pretty terrible game. Sonic 4 was a very sinful game since it was terrible but they had the nerve to call it the successor to sonic 3. Those are the big ones but honestly it doesn’t even scratch the surface of how many complaints fans have with sonic
I really don’t like that Mario fans are slowly turning into Sonic fans
Why can’t people just be happy anymore?
mario wonder did not feel like a mario game. wonder wasn't that great tbh
Guess what? Neither does Sunshine. Or Bros 2. Or Land 2 and Odyssey to an extent. They dont have to all feel the same.
@@batmanbud2 but those were good. mario wonder wasn't great as a game generally. it just didn't entertain me.
@@SmartyLightYT well, guess what? I didn't like Mario 3. It's just opinions, buddy.
@@batmanbud2 thats why i commented
That’s the WHOLE POINT of Wonder, it was meant to be a totally different type of game than any other Mario game
those idiots are just complaining, wtf.
Wonder was a masterpiece that actually listened to what fans wanted for once and gave us a huge playable roster alongside exciting Wonder Effects to shake up the game and make it fun for all ages. It practically saved the franchise, or at the very least did a good job of renewing it. Can’t believe we’re already hating on it 😢
Meanwhile me as a Sonic fan: First time?
Super Mario wonder is one of the best Mario games of all time hands down
The truth:
-mario odissey is the best 3D mario
-mario wonder is the best 2D mario
-totk is the best zelda game
mmm i dont think so. I really enjoyed Odyssey, but in my opinion Galaxy is much better. As for Zelda, in my opinion the best game is still Link's Awakening DX. Tears of the Kingdom looks fantastic, but I don't think it can top Breath of the Wild. I have no hate for any games in either series, because they are all good but I just don't feel that the newest game in a series is automatically the best one
@@chloeryanvtuberman Link’s awakening DX is a very niche pick for best Zelda. I’m honestly kind of curious as to why you think it’s the best
I’m almost left Mario as a series because of Elden Ring (which also led to Dark Souls, Bloodborne, and Sekiro). Their older games didn’t measure up to the “Soulsborne” test that I put many of my previous games through (Galaxy, Galaxy 2 and Odyssey) being the ones to pass. Then this 2D stoner game comes put of left field and feels like a love letter to Mario fans everywhere. Like I can even see the inspiration from Mario Maker of all games! Anyone saying Wonder is trash either hasn’t played it, or doesn’t realize what the game was going for. Not every game needs to be this huge AAA blockbuster 3D to be S tier. And Super Mario Wonder has taught me that.
I never got into Odyssey, but Wonder is one of my all-time favorite Mario games. I think it just comes down to personal preference.
Calling Mario Odyssey mid is a blasphemy
Definitely! That's way too much praise.
@bethanyh1637 bait used to be believable
I hate when this happens when every 2 or 3 years people play tgese fantastic games and then hate them again. And it saddens my heart that natio wonder is one of those games. No matter what ppl think I will continue to always love these games and nobody can tell me otherwise.
Mario fans needs to be like Kirby fans
Sometimes people just want to complain. It shouldn't bother you that much given how so positive you are with Nintendo and its news and games.
this is why i tell people to shut their mouths, oddysey is peak mario way prefer it over mario 64 and sunshine.
I AN YAPE
THE YAPE IS HERE
How can anyone hate on the best 2D and the best 3d Mario in ages? A game doesn't need to be perfect to be amazing. The more time goes, the more I start to think that Nintendo fanboys really are babies.
People are really saying that 2d platformers are like 'mobile games' deapite the fact that video games first took off with 2d platrormers? (Mario, Mega Man, Metroid, Castlevania, Sonic, Kirby, DKC etc) I swear, the brain capacity of gamers are getting smaller and smaller as time goes by.
Theyll compare anything Nintendo makes to mobile. Little do they know that Nintendo games have FAR better gameplay, stories, and arent burdened with ads or microtransactions.
I WAS THE FIRST
I’m literally playing wonder
No I was
You were both about 10 seconds after me, I have screenshots showing the seconds
Nah lol
@coastercube838 Bro I literally looked right as I posted the comment and it said no views and when it refreshed it said I was before everybody else but maybe were before me idk youtube is weird sometimes
@@beefryvioligamingandmore there’s always some lag, I really don’t care that much. I just hate little 5 year olds saying “first” whenever a video gets uploaded
"my opinion is right, therefore, your opinion must be wrong": the video
finally, a sane person
Holy cow someone who gets it
But their opinions ARE wrong. "Android game"? Really?
@@Josue_S_6411 android game is a bit far, but every other criticism is completely fair.
at that point id just roast my players for complaining about it being a platformer
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I always felt Mario Odyssey was a great game. Just a great game with a very disappointing ending.
Really need to find where the hate is originating and isolate the reasons. Is it coming from multiple Mario communities (i.e. Speedrunning, Modding, casual, Nintendo haters, etc), or just one community? Are their reasons valid, or are they letting their emotions get the better of them? My guess is that there are a mixture of both. People just like to blow things out of proportion, where any criticism turns to hate, and polarized views. Something can be great with a few flaws. Same for something can be awful, with bits of greatness.
*Sigh* I guess no matter how good something is people just won't be satisfied
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I bet Nin10doland can't heart this comment
Because he is MAGA who spreads fake news about Nintendo like this video and he deserves to be impeached by Joe Biden.
You'd be right
For now
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