Cosmic Conscious Argument for God's Existence
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Given that quantum mechanics reveals the mind plays an integrated role in the collapse of the wave function. Early thinkers like Eugine Wigner put forward an argument for God's existence from this piece of data. Building on his argument, I have helped to formalize this argument.
Sources:
Physics of the Impossible - Michio Kaku
The Unreasonable Effectiveness of Mathematics in the Natural Sciences - Eugene Wigner
Blackwell's Companion to Natural Theology - William Lane Craig & JP Moreland
The Principle of Psychology - William James
A History of Philosophical Systems - Charles Hartshorne
The Fabric of Reality - David Deutsch
The Quantum Enigma - Bruce Rosenblum and Fred Kuttner
IP, I just want to tell you: you are one of the apologetic giants who made it possible to be an intellectually fulfilled Christian theist. Keep up the good work!
Thanks!
InspiringPhilosophy I'm excited that you're starting to get big. And even atheists are taking notice. They know you're someone they can't easily underestimate (you've already proven that with your debates with Godless engineer and Matt Dillahunty). Again, thank you for your Godly ministry.
I hope that is the case, but I'll keep moving forward. Thanks!
. . . The case for the "I am that I am" always intrigues me. The "Self",
with all the 'aliveness' it may imply, does seem to be the fundamental
basis of reality; our reality maybe, each our own, -- experienced as the
"I" seed of the all sovereign "I am that I am.
. . . Perhaps being the self-knowing animal, hence with conscience, be
somehow mixed in with all this. But perhaps I digress.
"Listen to every zephyr for some reproof. For it is always there. . . .
"What do we want most to dwell near to? . . . but to the perennial source
of our life." --- Henry David Thoreau
. . . "the perennial source of our life, whence in all our experience we have found that to issue, as the willow stands near the water and sends out its roots in that direction. . . . This is the place where a man will dig his cellar. . . . Nearest to all things is that power that fashions their being." (from the chapter "Solitude" in
his book -- Walden)
"Without the brain you couldn't have consciousness, but without consciousness you wouldn't know you had a brain"
Tony Droid our body allows our consciousness to smell, see, taste all the things of the world god gave us to enjoy and we will have glorified bodies in resurrection. But I do believe our consciencnss can exist outside of our body with the lord. Does that make sense. Or did I just confuse you more? ☺️
@@degaussingatmosphericcharg575 I wouldn't say opinions, I'd say faith. A guess is not the same thing as an opinion. Opinions are things based off of preference.
God probably doesn't want those things proven yet, it completely takes away the whole faith part. What's so special about believing something you can see? Nothing.
God wants to have a relationship ship with us, we aren't supposed to just know that he exists. He loves us, and he wants us to love him back.
Does god/the universe have a brain?
@@He.knows.nothing Probably not. He created brains in the first place.
@@He.knows.nothing He's also not a physical being.
“The flower could not exist before there was an eye to see it.” - Charles Darwin
I.e. "the thing in itself."
@Pisstake While you have none?
@Pisstake Agreed
you realize he is saying that because flowers depend on insects to see their colors. obviously if animals didn't have eyes, flowers wouldn't exist. has nothing to do with consciousness.
“Humans would not exist before GOD thought it”. - I Am that I Am
I generally like your videos, but solipsism itched me here. The quote how solipsism collapses to realism is just a silly argument. You _did_ however, present a much more plausible sounding actual solipsistic argument that does collapse to theism. This is why, in part, I agree it is just rational to conclude that other minds are real and God is in control of all of us.
So thank you for presenting solipsism strongly and properly. This is an area I'm very familiar with, and your non-strawmanning of it, gave me hope that you presented other non-theistic arguments equally strong, even if their nuance escapes me.
This makes you conclusion about theism, that much more potent. Thank you for taking the time to think this through properly. Well done.
The answer for any question is God. Some people say " you cant answer a question so easy like that"
But why? Why the answer for everything has to be so difficult? Why its not very simple for others to answer with "God"
God explains everything and he has answers for everything. Thus solipsism is also refuted
@@user-xi5tp5iw7f what if I’m being deceived into solipsism not by God but by other beings God created
Solipsism can definatelly collapse to realism, if somebody thinks that they are the only ones with actual consiousness, and the others are just good at pretending. But yes, classical solipsism is not only collapsable to theism, it is actually invalid, because if you don't control the God-Like personal part of yourself, then it is simpler to put yourself below that God-like person, not below.
The best argument against solipsism is to stick a bunch of solipsists in a room and watch as they argue with each other in who is the real mind. 😄
You should have way more followers. You are my favorite apologetic. Really hope you male it big someday and become one of the main faces of Christian Apologetics.
he definatly is greater than most of the Apologetics we know
Dm X true
like seriously for me personally IP fucked WLC in being better in general
WLC uses to much philosophy without giving real hard evidence of science like IP
I don't think it's about having way more followers. I think he's fine with those who actually want to listen to him. You can have lots of followers and still not be heard.
I always believe Michio Kaku is unlike the other atheist and self-absorbed physicists. He has this humility that makes you think that he knows there is a lot of things in the universe that we just cannot grasp and we will never do. A higher order that is far greater than us. That is why I like him.
I see new vid. I click. I watch. I enjoy.
Hope you will experience.
This is the sort of apologetics I absolutely love. GREAT WORK IP, YOU ARE A TRUE SOLDIER OF CHRIST! MAY GOD ALMIGHTY BLESS YOU AND YOUR FAMILY!
This is fascinating!
So is spirit science, lol
Deconverted Man 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻
Now are we one with him who is our source...
I once dreamt I was in a living room with two other men. The following evening after I arrived at my destination, the memory of the dream exactly matched the room décor, the two men (I would be working with). The match was precisely 100% identical. How could that possible occur in a purely physical universe, so I agree with your premise.
Look at this verse, it sign or proof that maybe this life is just a Virtual Reality..
"Did We fail in the first creation? But they are in confusion over a new creation.
And We have already created man and know what his soul whispers to him, and We are closer to him than [his] jugular vein
When the two receivers receive, seated on the right and on the left.
Man does not utter any word except that with him is an observer prepared [to record].
And the intoxication of death will bring the truth; that is what you were trying to avoid.
And the Horn will be blown. That is the Day of [carrying out] the threat.
And every soul will come, with it a driver and a witness.
[It will be said], "You were certainly in unmindfulness of this, and We have removed from you your cover, so your sight, this Day, is sharp."
And his companion, [the angel], will say, "This [record] is what is with me, prepared."
(Quran, Qaf 15-23)
Your comment about this topic is precisely similiar as quran say about day of judgement (day of resurrection)... Yes, maybe we are life in some kind of VR Realm... The Veil will be removed from our consciousness one day.. So, we are able to see another Reality and maybe Everything that today is still unseen for us. .. And All Praised for The Lord Of The Worlds.. Allah The Almighty One..The Sustainer And All-Encompassed One Of All Realities....
All Realities is just Product Of One Consciousness.. In islam we call Him Allah, He is The Ultimate And Absolute Reality The One Universal Consciousness that Observing All Realities)
The quote attributed to Francis Bacon at the beginning of the video was actually made by Werner Heisenberg.
Good catch!
a mosquito just bit my face
Fascinating as always IP. Funny that you’re working full time while putting up these amazing videos not to mention the editing, no idea where you get the time lol. Looking forward to your debate with CS, (watch his debate with Turek it’ll give you an idea of what his arguments are)
God bless you and your ministry!
tadm123 - his arguments are no different than the typical atheist arguments. I'm surprised he has the nuts to debate IP, honestly. The vast majority of the UA-cam atheists tuck tail and run when it comes to the opportunity to debate theists who actually know their stuff.
can you tell me who is CS please,and details about that debate thanks
babloo jai
Cosmic Skeptic.
His debate with Turek is irrelevant now as Cosmic Skeptic now holds the same position as Sam Harris in terms of morality. Although I was shocked he swallowed that one from RR without any skepticism or further enquiring. It's a far weaker position that gets dismantled purely by the socratic method.
Manu He doesn't, in fact in his latest video he attacks Sam Harris view on moral objectivity. While Harris is wrong, CS confuses moral ontology with epistemology, it's 3rd grader understanding of moral philosophy.
Brilliant as usual. It's surprising to me, I did my bachelor's in physics and the idea that there is a fundamental universal consciousness was presented in jest. Treated like a simpleton's conclusion. And like a good little sheep I agreed with the professors. These new discoveries shed an amazing light in creation, making it more sophisticated than one could have imagined, and a very sad light in the incredible bias of our "educational" institutions.
wow bro one question now i am a little bit new to all of this actually but still learn a lot but essentially is the cosmic concioussnes proofen fact??? like as an example the big bang theory orrrrrr just pure speculations????? since michi kaku said in the quote it is ''proofen'' that is why i am confused but from what i see it looks like it is proofen to me
Excellent in-depth explanation, IP! Also, I wish you all the best in your debate with Cosmic Skeptic today! :-)
Great video!! found you through suggested videos. I just started a UA-cam Channel not long ago and very interested in the human evolution and spirituality topic. Keep following your passion and creating great content. Sending you good vibes and lots of love 💖
This is the most
underrated channel I've ever seen
The Digital Physics Argument and the Cosmic Conscious Argument are probably some of the strongest arguments for God that I have seen along with the Resurrection
I think Alexander preuss cosmological arguement is good
Exactly! The Worlds is merely an illusion of existence... All we can say about reality is just about God Imagination.. The real thing (Real Being Consciousness) is just God itself.. We are servant for Him Existence.. What we call a reality is just actualization, realization and expression Of God.. That mean we are exist in His Consciousness (we are some of kind imaginary being in God Existence)..because there is no one or thing or being can exist in the outside of His Existence(His Consciousness).. Because God is One too.. So we are merely God Knowledge or Consciousness, because of that God literally can create and resurrection us in another existence... Even Over over again if he will.. If man know how to create a book in the past, so in the future a man can create thousand of book.. The Key Of Existence is an Knowledge/Consciousness/Mind..just like a man can create a book if they knowing How to Create..
So, The Day Of Judgement And Resurrection is an real event in some part of distance future that still unseen and not yet happen today..
That it..
Look at this verse, it sign or proof that maybe this life is just a Virtual Reality..
"Did We fail in the first creation? But they are in confusion over a new creation.
And We have already created man and know what his soul whispers to him, and We are closer to him than [his] jugular vein
When the two receivers receive, seated on the right and on the left.
Man does not utter any word except that with him is an observer prepared [to record].
And the intoxication of death will bring the truth; that is what you were trying to avoid.
And the Horn will be blown. That is the Day of [carrying out] the threat.
And every soul will come, with it a driver and a witness.
[It will be said], "You were certainly in unmindfulness of this, and We have removed from you your cover, so your sight, this Day, is sharp."
And his companion, [the angel], will say, "This [record] is what is with me, prepared."
(Quran, Qaf 15-23)
Your comment about this topic is precisely similiar as quran say about day of judgement (day of resurrection)... Yes, maybe we are life in some kind of VR Realm... The Veil will be removed from our consciousness one day.. So, we are able to see another Reality and maybe Everything that today is still unseen for us. .. And All Praised for The Lord Of The Worlds.. Allah The Almighty One..The Sustainer And All-Encompassed One Of All Realities....
All Realities is just Product Of One Consciousness.. In islam we call Him Allah, He is The Ultimate And Absolute Reality The One Universal Consciousness that Observing All Realities)
God is solipsistic and we are His agenty lucidity.
I am an agnostic but I like your videos, keep it up
Tune into Capturing Christianity's Podcast/UA-cam channel to watch IP dialogue with Cosmic Skeptic on the Moral Argument!
WTF that happens today i thaught it happens tomorrow!!!!!
It happens tomorrow; you are correct. 1 PM
yeah already thaught BROOO i need to watch that too it will be amazing
My favorite philosopher, Descartes, considered Solipsism in the third meditation and demonstrated it collapsed to theism without the benefit of making any assumptions at all.
This is a difficult one for me. I'll watch it again. Thanks.
This channel deserves well over a million subs.
Thanks
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@Chosen One This guy would get CRUSHED by Sam Harris.
Would be fun to watch tho'.
@Chosen One 😐
The 'a priori' nature of mathematics, which we only can discover not invent, is the only clue to intelligent design, universal consciousness and divine purpose.
Can you make another video ,and perhaps use larger words,and more complicated sounding sentences so we can understand even less of what you are trying to explain
Thanks!
Jack Paval 😫😂🤣😅
THANKYOU MY LORD FOR YOUR BLESSINGS
Edit: I used to be Christian but alhamdulillah I was guided to Islam I advise you all to look into Islam sincerely.
@bmk777k summarize your point my friend
I'm agnostic but I'm glad your life is better. I don't care what religion someone goes into as long as it makes there life better. Peace on your journey 😁
welcome home!!!
@bmk777k what caused this dude in the first place?
@bmk777k look up the bootstrap paradox
Good stuff! The best explanation for our experience of the world around us is that fundamental mind (god) underlies everything including our own personal perspectives. Solipsism loses by Occam's Razor because it implies an unnecessary dualism in mind. There is no reason to assume solipsism by default. We are all having a shared experience of this mental reality.
Very few youtubers I watch respond to comments whether objecting, or otherwise proactively. I appreciate that. That’s very cool and honest of you.
I love this argument! Well explained. And very logical. I am mind blown.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts and explanations to us. If only you know how important your videos are to people like us who find it hard to explain to nonbelievers the existence of God.
I really enjoy your channel. Keep up the good work!!
A pinch of Kantian Transcendental Idealism, with "meta-space" and "meta-time" to lend credence to noumena as the metaphysical substrate of the appearances of things-in-themselves to any given human mind, and you're almost there...
@0:13 “The first gulp from the glass of natural sciences will make you an atheist, but at the bottom of the glass God is waiting for you” …is a quote from Werner Heisenberg, not Francis Bacon
Wow, you are very good at this stuff, IP.
Thank you so much, IP! Like many others have said, you and your ministry have impacted us all! You are truly doing God's work! Keep it up 💪💪💪
Would I be right in saying that the idea of God being omnipresent lines up with the idea everything is emergent from a cosmic consciousness as you have explained? Colossians 1:17 reads: He is before all things, and in Him all things hold together. To me this is a clear link between the two ideas.
I think omnipresence is more about physical location and not temporal. The video focuses more on omniscience and not omnipresence though. If the universe is created by God dreaming or observing then he is (likely) outside and (more than likely) able to observe it at all points of time and space. Especially since it seems that time and space emerge from more fundamental properties, so its more likely that these are characteristics that we experience and not necessarily what God experiences (as an outside observer). He also argues that the omniscience is emergent from God being an outside observer who is able to observe the Universe in this different manner.
So He is before because He is the creator, and in Him all things hold together because its His observation that holds the Universe together.
Although IP made a neat argument as to why all things don't collapse down due to God's observations. So what if the Universe emerges from our observations, but it is Us who emerge from God's? I would say that is effectively what IP has argued, and it still means that the physical Universe is created by God, but 1 degree removed. But i think that ties into the Faith vs Works argument. He's not watching us for our works.
Andrew Frank if all is defined by Gods observation, where is free will? Does or local consciousness have a say in what is real in our minds?
333 studio, where is free will? It has no location it is something a conscious agent uses because it is conscious of options. To do, or not to do, that is the question.
333, God creating everything through observing does not mean that God is actively exerting his will to have 100% control. The bible doesn't make since without it because all mistakes would have been mistakes God made and not that of conscious observers that He made.
Free Will would stem from being a conscious beings. If God, being a conscious being, has free will then there is no reason why anything he makes can't have free will. Especially if he is omnipotent. And yes I would say that our local consciousness has a say in what we perceive as real within our own minds, but that would be a given if you believe people are conscious rational actors with some degree of free will.
@@AndrewTheFrank tbh I dont understand the IPs answer on why all things dont collapse down due to God's observations. I mean I dont understand his first argument, God knows all the possible outcome of wave function collapse? And after we make a measurment he reduces all of this outcomes to the one answer?
To me, my consciousness is the spirit of "me"! My body isn't a spirit and when it expires "I" (my spirit) will be freed into eternity! God is a Spirit and created all material and spiritual things. His desire is to reign in eternity with those spirits that have recognized Him and searched to know Him intimately! Through consciousness, I have come to see God in all things! I look forward to the release of my spirit that life has hold of.
We can just argue that idealism is true, that consciousness is one, and since the cosmos exists then it must be grounded in a single cosmic mind. If reality is like a dream, and we can't control it with our minds, then this dream belongs to a cosmic mind.
exactly but idealism seems to not even be required for the CS argumetn xD
That just begs the question of the origin or explanation of that cosmic mind. Equivalent to Solipsism.
I'm not seeing how this is question begging, the conclusion is not in any premise. I don't see how this is solipsism either. There is ultimately one mind that all other minds are grounded in.
there is nothing suggesting that cosmos must be grounded in a mind. Also, I think he meant it raised the question of the origin of a cosmic mind, not that you are presenting your conclusion as a premise.
no there is a lot of evidence suggesting exactly that lmfao you didnt watch even one video of IP's channel you are probably From Cosmics faggots server lmfao xD
Pretty deep brother. I'd love to pick your mind over a joint or glass of wine. I'm still hung up on Chalmers statement that consciousness is entirely unexpected from an objective viewpoint (speaking of psychological vs phenomenal consciousness). I have my own theories, "but they are simply too large for the margin" - Fermat
This video needs more views !
Greatness
Dm X how much do you need to comment on this video?
Many times*
as long as there is no question im helping IP in this case asked him out for that :D
IP your videos are amazing. Your explanations are spot on. The strange thing is I understand what you are saying. I think.
I would be interested to see you revisit topics from some of your older videos like this one.
Please IP, explain Noah ark.and the flood.
Type "Dr. Hugh Ross" Brother.
Savio Biogen Or, for a Theistic Evolution point of view, type in John Walton
He just dropped a video on that. Check it out.
Thank you all folks.
Just amazing, thank you for your detailed explanation!
Awesome video! I learn something new every time I come to your channel.
I find your video enlightening as a mechanistic materialist atheist. I am finding that evolution and many theories on quantum mechanics make sense, but I believe that universal consicousness/mind make sense and can coexist along theories of evolution. We notice that many different theories of conservation showcase a collection of procedures and mechanics as well as similarities to other forms that showcase reactions and behaviors that reveal a lower form of intelligence and conscienceness than our own. If we are all connected subconsciously to a universal essence of all becoming and being then we are all connected to this abstraction, and are gods ourselves. I agree that perhaps we simply attribute the name "god" in various ways to this universal mind. We even see symmetrical similarities between certain organisms and galaxies which suggests a large explosion of organic life, the big bang. This could suggest that planets and other non biological forms are also sentient. Even molecules avoid each other, and to say it is simply laws governing their interactions seems more incomplete than true. This universal mind may very well be a collection of the consciencenesses that have existed in our universe for millions of years, it may also suggest that our consciousnesses transcend our bodies after physical death and we become part of all life similar to the concept of reincarnation in many religions.
Amazing video putting all these concepts together. Thank you
WOW! Killin em with the vids IP! AWESOME JOB! :)
Ip thanks. I was very scared as someone has been trying to convince me that nondualism is the truth of the Universe and all life. That we are all one consciousness and our selves don't exist. They sent me over to J. Krhisnamurti videos on you tube and I have only been in greater distress. Doubting God even more.
0:14 I think that was Heisenberg
I believe it was, though Bacon said a very similar thing about philosophy.
Bingoooo
I think we need to reevaluate our idea of what god is and how conscious god is in comparison to humans and open our minds as to where god exists.
Noah ark, Adam and Eve and evolution
and firat sin and death, implications?
Please, please, please IP help about thos questions???
he will do it later on he will make a series on the OT just wait
The "Adam and Eve" story is no less than "mythology" -- the poetic representation of truth. The "apple", itself, represents excess want. "We" got kicked out of the garden, where we had all we needed, . . . to labor, and become "civilized".
. . . and from excess want we have excess power -- to wipe out the planet.
Fictional stories.
@@williamwells835 Your ignorance is seen When you wrote "The "apple" . It is nowhere mentioned in Scripture that Eve ate an Apple...
11:28 In fact, wave function is lining so well with molinism (middle-knowledge of God - view that God knows all possible free will decisions, or all possibilities in general) that it's scary.
Michio is pronounced ”mi-chi-o" not "mikio"
Serious question to anyone that can answer it.
If matter doesn't exist until observed...why can we plant a seed and observe a tree 10 years later? If the seed did not exist after we planted it...how did it grow for 10 years while being unobserved?
Fellowship of the Mystery
The idealist would probably say that it is because god is always “keeping his eye on it”
Makhi Laveau: I was interested in an answer from a quantum mechanics perspective but your answer is what I came up with as well. God is observing us observing but this would mean that matter does really exist, even when not measured/observed.
Fellowship of the Mystery
But I’m pretty sure on idealism, matter is still not really there, it’s only an illusion.
I believe it’s something to do with quantum decoherence, but I’m not sure.
Michio Kaku would definitely agree with this argument
I can agree on the concept of God under one premise: "there is no way to describe God's nature" We shouldnt make any asumptions about God since we are in a unknown relationship with God. The most arrogant action thereby is to claim that God's nature is known to us. We can ony describe entities (objects, phenomenons, ect.) by using our language that comes from our limited knowledge of the world, with this knowledge probably being wrong, missleading and the viewpoint we take based on that knowledge is thus limited. We don't know if God observes, we don't know if God thinks, we don't know anything about God, since there is no definition of God. And if there is a definition, then that definition limits God, because that definition is a product of our limited minds.
Enjoy your life and care for what you see, accept that your actions are driven by your instincts, acknowledge your feelings, everything can be doubted, it's up to you to draw the line.
Albert Einstein himself said: "I believe in Spinoza's God, who reveals himself in the orderly harmony of what exists, not in a God who concerns himself with the fates and actions of human beings."
Great video!
What is there left to prove?
That this "God" can, logically, only be that God of Christianity.
actually if you think about it he did exactly that in the last video It cant be just one mind but 3 since one can not observe itself
Dm X
Indeed.
For God to logically be "God", it must exist as more than 1 "persons".
Only the Judeo-Christian religions have a God that exists as more than 1 "persons" but one in essence.
true but logically you could say every religion that supports more than one person (god) can be the result actually the 3rd isnt even necessary
Dm X
Indeed.
However, we have no reason to suggest this.
Many other religions only say that there are thousands -to- millions of gods.
Hinduism has over 300 million gods!
(If I'm not mistaken)
The main reason why all other religions fail, is bc they fail to adequately, and accurately, define "God" as a Maximally Great Being.
The Modal Ontological Argument
drive.google.com/file/d/0ByELyr7ywrT7bjVrRHFoSjhLT2M/view?usp=drivesdk
The Leibnizian Cosmological Argument
drive.google.com/file/d/0ByELyr7ywrT7ellscEFXVHVXWHc/view?usp=drivesdk
exactly however i ask myself if someone would use Occam's Razzor against the christian god in this case lmfao xD
Tbh I don’t understand one bit how these conclusions are achieved. It very much feels like someone saying that they must be because of X factor when in reality that factor doesn’t even seem to make logical sense itself. Like these things are spoken very matter of factly
It doesn't lead to theism. It leads to pantheism, or possibly panentheism. Theism means personal god.
Mecha Teddy I was thinking the same thing. His arguments only extend as far as deism. He has all his work ahead of him to prove it is the Christian God he speaks of. Just like all other proofs of God’s existence.
It doesn't lead to pantheism and panenetheism is a form of theism which is held by the Eastern Orthodox Church.
@@chasemolenaar2161 Learn the distinction between revelation and natural theology which was made by Christian theologians over 2000 years ago.
@@LogosTheos All Christians believe in a personal god, man.
Solipsism is actual insanity 😳. Weird how solipsism is “I think therefore I AM”. They don’t want God to be real much less those who profess His name.
Great video. I completely agree that solipsism falls into theism. It sounds more like a pantheistic God.
Its just one god. Solipsism is bs
True
Great as ususl looking forward for the debate
The act of “measuring” occurs naturally when particles interacts in The quantum realm
Physicist here. I have a request to make. Laymen, please stop using garbled misconstrued statements about quantum mechanics to justify your philosophical arguments. Most of the "real" physics mentioned in this video would take a decade of study for most people to sort of understand. That being said, at least 50% of the stuff mentioned isn't even real science. It is pure speculation and, in my opinion, at least partially drug-fueled fantasy. Frankly, the first 15 minutes of this video was almost entirely gibberish. As someone who HAS spent a decade studying this stuff, it is actually pretty upsetting. I mean, I can't even say Jones is lying because I am about 99% sure he has no clue what he is even talking about. /sigh
You obviously don’t understand the what is going on, as this is a philosophical argument. It relies on scientific evidence, but by you calling gibberish just shows you don’t understand how philosophy works...
@@InspiringPhilosophy "scientific evidence," where? please show us. this whole video is just an argument from analogy.
I said in the video I did this on prior videos before I could present the argument:
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@@InspiringPhilosophy Addressed: ua-cam.com/video/i8Ac8trj8Bk/v-deo.html
@@InspiringPhilosophy Addressed: ua-cam.com/video/i8Ac8trj8Bk/v-deo.html
VERY nice! Thank you!
My objection is that "knowledge" of something is not the same thing as "measurement" of that something. I mean, quantum objects can be thought as being in a superposition of quantum states, each one having a given probability to result, untill a measurement is made, but this doesn't drive to the preposition "then WE create reality", and if we weren't there to measure, 'that reality DOES NOT EXIST". We (and for we I mean photons that we send , a photoreceptor screen ...etc.) just make the wave function of that system to collapse on one of the many possible results.
God can only experience the world through councioeness
I would like a debate between you and CosmicSkeptic.
I am today at 11 AM PST on the Capturing Christianity Channel.
WOW. My prayers have been answered. Thanks !
This channels sub count is criminally low. Sad!
he should have more subs i agree :D
getting there.
Seems like sir Barkley was correct all along....Berkeley's immaterialism argues that "esse est percipi aut percipere", "to be is to be perceived"without our perception, or God's nothing can be real. Quantum mechanics, as it is presented in this series seems to confirm Barkley's 18th century metaphysics....I always fancied Barkley.
God Bless You
This is an invitation to see a theory on the physics of light and time!
Shortest username in history who doesn't EVER watch the videos he markets his stuff on...
Good job IP. Small note: I think the quote about God waiting at the bottom of the glass was Heisenberg
We could not trace it back to him, however, Bacon definitely did say that.
Cool! Glad you looked into it
Wisdom: knowledge of Immortality
Immortality is here and now, and is not a speculative something beyond the grave. It is a lucid state of consciousness in which the sensations of the body, the varying and unrestful states of mind, and the circumstances and events of life are seen to be of a fleeting and therefore of an illusory character.
Immortality does not belong to time, and will never be found in time; it belongs to Eternity; and just as time is here and now, so is Eternity here and now, and a man may find that Eternity and establish in it, if he will overcome the self that derives its life from the unsatisfying and perishable things of time.
Whilst a man remains immersed in sensation, desire, and the passing events of his day-by-day existence, and regards those sensations, desires, and passing events as of the essence of himself, he can have no knowledge of immortality. The thing which such a man desires, and which he mistakes for immortality, is persistence; that is, a continuous succession of sensations and events in time. Living in, loving and clinging to, the things which stimulate and minister to his immediate gratification, and realising no state of consciousness above and independent of this, he thirsts for its continuance, and strives to banish the thought that he will at last have to part from those earthly luxuries and delights to which he has become enslaved, and which he regards as being inseparable from himself.
Persistence is the antithesis of immortality; and to be absorbed in it is spiritual death. Its very nature is change, impermanence. It is a continual living and dying.
The death of the body can never bestow upon a man immortality. Spirits are not different from men, and live their little feverish life of broken consciousness, and are still immersed in change and mortality. The mortal man, he who thirsts for the persistence of his pleasure-loving personality is still mortal after death, and only lives another life with a beginning and an end without memory of the past, or knowledge of the future.
The immortal man is he who has detached himself from the things of time by having ascended into that state of consciousness which is fixed and unvariable, and is not affected by passing events and sensations. Human life consists of an evermoving procession of events, and in this procession the mortal man is immersed, and he is carried along with it; and being so carried along, he has no knowledge of what is behind and before him. The immortal man is he who has stepped out of this procession, and he stands by unmoved and watches it; and from his fixed place he sees both the before, the behind and the middle of the moving thing called life. No longer identifying himself with the sensations and fluctuations of the personality, or with the outward changes which make up the life in time, he has become the passionless spectator of his own destiny and of the destinies of the men and nations.
The mortal man, also, is one who is caught in a dream, and he neither knows that he was formerly awake, nor that he will wake again; he is a dreamer without knowledge, nothing more. The immortal man is as one who has awakened out of his dream, and he knows that his dream was not an enduring reality, but a passing illusion. He is a man with knowledge, the knowledge of both states- that of persistence, and that of immortality,- and is in full possession of himself.
The mortal man lives in the time or world state of consciousness which begins and ends; the immortal man lives in the cosmic or heaven state of consciousness, in which there is neither beginning nor end, but an eternal now. Such a man remains poised and steadfast under all changes, and the death of his body will not in any way interrupt the eternal consciousness in which he abides. Of such a one it is said, “He shall not taste of death”, because he has stepped out of the stream of mortality, and established himself in the abode of Truth. Bodies, personalities, nations, and worlds pass away, but Truth remains, and its glory is undimmed by time. The immortal man, then, is he who has conquered himself; who no longer identifies himself with the self-seeking forces of the personality, but who has trained himself to direct those forces with the hand of a master, and so has brought them into harmony with the causal energy and source of all things.
The fret and fever of life has ceased, doubt and fear are cast out, and death is not for him who has realised the fadeless splendour of that life of Truth by adjusting heart and mind to the eternal and unchangeable verities.
Nice explo!
is there any book compilation of inspiring philosophy?
Seems like you're inching closer to the Transcendental Argument for God's existence.
Is there any other?
@Pisstake All? So you believe in absolutes?
@Pisstake That' s what I thoight.
As a trancedentalist...I AM.
I was so glad when you disagreed that solipsism doesn't boil down to realism. It don't see how one can make that leap. Great video.
Solipsism, what a weird idea.
try flat earth...
Solipsism is dumb
Did you get a new mic? Your voice sounds clearer to me at least.
a year ago.
Denial that there is massive evidencel for God is psychotic.
no, it's called rational scepticism.
Thinking that the laws of nature can be violated, THAT is psychotic.
Atheists have taken skepticism to the extreme so they can cover up for their denial of God.
I don't need extreme scepticism when the theists are unable to produce convincing evidence of any kind.
They do but atheists will deny all the time and never present a better theory.
we don't need to present a better theory, the burden of proof is on YOU.
Yet another great video IP. Just one question, isn't the quotation from the beginning Heisenberg's and not Bacon's?
No, it is not Heisenberg's published work.
I like the part where he says bla-bla 0:00 - 13:41
I would like to see you reformulate this argument without the assumption of the Copenhagen interpretation of QM.
It seems like the wave function is possibly likened to a quarter spinning on edge, then calling heads or tails and slamming your hand on the coin (collapsing its probability for heads or tails. It could even be argued that the coin is existing is a heads/tail state until you observe it by grabbing it).
This analogy really explains what I understand of QM, and takes away all the weird, anti-realism speculations that somehow by observing (smacking the coin down) that I am doing anything that makes reality non-existent without an observer.
Just some thoughts. But I am really starting to doubt that scientists can give us any meaningful interpretation of QM. The wild imaginations of modern physicists are really getting out of hand. You know where the next step goes- multiple worlds.
I think we have to understand QM in a way that is compatible with classic (large scale) physics. We don’t have the weird supposed effects of QM happening at the macro level. That suggests a flaw in the Copenhagen interpretation of QM.
I’m a fan, thanks for the great content on your channel.
interesting and true however i think he adressed that QM does effect the macro world in one other video ;:=)
Copenhagen is almost a century old, we have developed a lot further from that. I think that the most mathematically consistent interpretation is other worlds. Now, QM is not compatible with classical physics for a very good reason. It is concerned with the subatomic level. Classical mechanics are a set of rules that apply to classical things, but they are all approximations. They are a composition of smaller systems, and we understand these systems quite well going deeper. However, when we reach subatomic our understanding does go down quite a lot. Now, we have learned quite a lot in this 100 years since the Copenhagen interpretation was thought up! The fact that we don't have, for example, quantum tunneling of people is because quantum tunneling is concerned with interactions between two subatomic particles. But we have utilized it! You can research loads of examples of applications. And also QM is all about probabilities, that's the whole point in it. What would be the probability that an entire classical system, composed of billions of subatomic particles, will all tunnel through another set of billions of subatomic particles? It seems silly when I put it like that, doesn't it?
this got already debunked
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I’d highly recommend you read a book called “everything forever.” It deals with quantum physics, but also with the nigh impossibility that other worlds don’t exist. The multi-verse is a must, mathematically. Because I’m not nearly as adept in this subject as the man who wrote the book, I’m just going to point you in the book’s direction rather than attempt to restate and subsequently butcher his theses. 😂
the mutlvierse is definatly not a must xD show me the proof otherwise your claims are irrelevant and blatantly false lmfao try again
We are God♡ For God is all there is, and all there is is God❤
Since there's only energy, everything in this universe is one. We are the part of collective consciousness that becomes conscious of itself.
There is no "outside" consciousness because consciousness is all there is♡
Consciousness wanted to become conscious of itself so it created this world out and in of it self. There's no difference between you and me or the computer we communicate with. Everything is one and one is everything there is♡
We are not part of God's consciousness. The human mind and heart is ever thinking of evil, so we are separate from God. That's what Hell is, separation from God.
Van Ivanov
Wrong. We can't be apart from source (God) when source is all there is. If you were to build a sand castle, the foundation of all you'd build is still sand.
"Evil" (although only a human invention) is separation. "Good" is oneness, the ultimate state of source.
if this is true one is incumbent to believe that all things that happen are meant to be and that everything is right the way they are. FALSE! then there is no reason for anything to be, no need of antagonism. The world and the laws that govern it exposes itS imperfections. there are many entities in this world or universe. the reality of the matter is that one entity affects the other. This doesn't mean they are connected or 'one', it means they are all in the same ground affected by one another. this is very simple to understand.
thabiso banda
You didn't quiet understand the meaning of oneness in this context.
enlighten me
Man, this is awesome! All your videos perfectly align with the hard TRUTH of the theory of everything. Which is GOD! This is not opinion and therefore can not be refuted. It is self-evident in life itself. Anyway this is one of my favorite channels. God bless.
I am God, as You're God, and the stone under our feet is God... Everything is God... God is everything...
god is in us and outside of us he is trully omnipresent ;:D
Yeah she is gorgeous
god is not bound by the concept of sex
Dm X
Amen
joaquin vega If god is everything then god is the toilet and what goes in it also, is that correct?
Does this argument account for consciousness if it's actually an illusory aspect of sensory modality, in which we are interpreting conclusions of our subconscious mental states, essentially being robots operating under highly complex biological mechanisms perceiving our experiences through memory and natured/nurtured emotional responses?
THE CREATION OF SELF DEFINITION.
All of life is a process of deciding Who You Are, and then experiencing that.
As you keep expanding your vision, you make up new rules to cover that! As you keep enlarging your idea about your Self, you create new do's and don'ts, yeses and nos to encircle that. These are the boundaries that "hold in" something which cannot be held in.
You cannot hold in "you," because you are as boundless as the Universe. Yet you can create a concept about your boundless Self by Imagining, and then accepting, boundaries.
In a sense, this is the only way you can know yourself as anything in particular.
That which is boundless is boundless. That which is limitless is limitless. It cannot exist anywhere because it is everywhere. If it is everywhere, it is nowhere in particular.
God is everywhere. Therefore, God is nowhere in particular, because to be somewhere in particular, God would have to not be somewhere else - which is not possible for God.
There is only one thing that is "not possible" for God, and that is for God to not be God. God cannot "not be." Nor can God not be like Itself. God cannot "un-God" Itself.
I am everywhere, and that's all there is to it. And since I am everywhere, I am nowhere. And if I am NOWHERE I Am NOW HERE
Everything in the universe is consciousness. Space and time in all planes of reality are only projections within universal consciousness. There really is no here or there for everything is at one place where Mind is. Mind does not move at all. Mind simply is (Not to be confused with the brain). Mind is everywhere yet nowhere. Mind is nowhere but Here, Now. We are all existing together as a singularity in one place and time. Everything is one, Here and Now.
Your soul is the reflection of all souls. You are the Other. Without the other, you would not exist. You are defined by your relationships with others. You would need to describe the whole universe in order to define a single person. Therefore every single person is the whole universe. Your soul is both personal and universal at the same time. Everyone is a reflection of yourself. You are in a hall of mirrors where every reflection of yourself appears different. Others you admire reflect the qualities you most cherish in yourself. Others you detest reflect the qualities you most deny in yourself. Each person you see is a different version of you.
The outer world is a mirror of yourself at any place and time. If you want to know the state of your personal consciousness, just look around and see what is happening to you. If you want to know the state of the collective consciousness, just look around at what is happening in the world. Your personal reality is synchronistically orchestrated by your sense of Self at all times. If a critical mass of people expressed their higher selves, they would cause a transformation in collective consciousness and the world reality. Every time a person rises in personal consciousness, he moves the state of the world towards a higher one than before.
TRANSCENDENT WORLD: You are comfortable here when you can experience all possibilities. Your awareness is open. You are connected to the source. Your consciousness is merged with the mind of God.
SUBTLE WORLD: You are comfortable here when you can hold on to your vision. You trust yourself to follow where the mind goes. You aren't bound up in resistance, objections, skepticism, and rigid beliefs. Inspiration occurs as a normal part of your existence.
MATERIAL WORLD: You are comfortable with your personal reality. You take responsibility for it. You read the world as a reflection of who you are and what is happening "in here." As the reflection shifts and changes, you track the changes occurring inside yourself.
If a white man was created by God,
And if a black man was created by God,
Black and white men are equal before God.
If God is reality,
And if reality is consciousness,
Then God is consciousness
The Need to Create, Discover, and Explore.
God becomes a creative source. He gave us our birthright of curiosity. He remains unknowable, but he unfolds one secret after another in creation. At the far edge of the universe, the unknown is a challenge and a source of wonder. God wants us not to worship but to evolve. Our role is to discover and explore. Nature exists to provide endless mysteries that challenge our intelligence - there is always more to discover.
This is your God if you live to explore and be creative, if you feel happiest confronting the unknown, if you have total confidence that nature can be unraveled, including human nature, as long as we keep questioning and never settle for fixed, preordained truth.
God becomes pure wonder. After reason has reached the limits of understanding, the mystery remains. Sages, saints, and the divinely inspired have penetrated it. They have felt a divine presence that transcends everyday life. Materialism is an illusion. Creation was fashioned in two layers, the visible and the invisible. Miracles become real when everything is a miracle. To reach God, one must accept the reality of invisible things. Nature is a mask for the divine.
This is your God if you are a spiritual seeker. You want to know what lies behind the mask of materialism, to find the source of healing, to experience peace, and to be in direct contact with a divine presence.
Unity, the State Beyond All Needs.
God becomes One. There is complete fulfillment because you have reached the goal of seeking. You experience the divine everywhere. The last hint of separation has vanished. You have no need to divide saint from sinner, because God imbues everything. In this state, you don't know the truth; you become it. The universe and every event in it are expressions of a single underlying Being, which is pure awareness, pure intelligence, and pure creativity. Nature is the outward form that consciousness takes as it unfolds in time and space.
This is your God if you feel totally connected to your soul and your source. Your consciousness has expanded to embrace a cosmic perspective. You see everything happening in the mind of God. The ecstasy of great mystics, who seem especially gifted or chosen, now becomes available to you, because you have fully matured spiritually.
The God that brings the scheme to an end, God as One, is different from the others. He isn't a projection. He signifies a state of total certainty and wonder, and if you reach that state, you are no longer projecting. Every need has been fulfilled; the path has ended with reality itself.
I am not my brain, and my brain is not me. For proof of this, let’s take up the contrary and suppose that “my self” is “my brain.” What are the implications of this identity? If “my self” is “my brain,” and “my brain” is “mine,” then who does “my brain” belong to?
Let’s suppose that one were to reply that “my brain” belongs to “me.” What are we to make of such an answer? First of all, it overlooks the fact that we have supposed “my self” to be “my brain;” secondly, since I am “me,” and I am “my brain,” the answer amounts to nothing more than “my brain” belongs to “my brain.” But this doesn’t answer our question at all. The question being asked is “who” is doing the possessing of “my brain.” We cannot introduce another “my brain” in order to account for the possessor of “my brain,” without asking who this newly introduced “my brain” belongs to. Let’s try to analyze the terms and relations being invoked here.
It has been supposed that “my self” is “my brain.” These two phrases, “my self” and “my brain,” have a commonality: a possessive relation, and this possessive relation is invoked by the word “my.” Whenever the word “my” is used, a possessive relation is established between the following two diverse terms: “me” and “mine.” The former term (i.e. “me”) is the possessor of the latter term (i.e. “mine”). Simply put, the word “my” implies a “me” that possesses “something,” and that “something” possessed is “mine.” Let’s go deeper and explore the relation between the “me” and the “mine,” and how it relates to our initial question.
We have clearly established the fact that there is “something” being referred to by the word “me,” and “something” being referred to by the word “mine.” What might these “somethings” be? Let’s break up this analysis into two separate sections:
A) What is it that the word “me” refers to? Obviously, the word “me” must refer to a person, and, in this particular case, this person is I. However, we have supposed that I am “my brain,” so whenever the word “me” is used, “my brain” is what is being referred to. Therefore, since I am “my brain,” the word “me” really refers to “my brain.”
B) What is it that the word “mine” refers to? Obviously, the word “mine” must refer to something that is possessed by “me,” otherwise the word “mine” would be meaningless. Furthermore, since our initial question was “who does “my brain” belong to?,” we are committed to holding that this “something” possessed by “me” is “my brain,” since “my brain” belongs to “me” because it is “mine.”
We have now reached an important step in the argument: we have recognized that “me” refers to “my brain,” and “mine” refers to “my brain.” To repeat, our question was the following: “If “my self” is “my brain,” then who does “my brain” belong to?” We saw that “my” implies a “me” and a “mine;” and we are committed to the view that the “me” refers to “my brain,” and the “mine” refers to “my brain.” So, if I am “my brain,” then the only answer available is the following: “my brain” belongs to “my brain.”
Has the question been answered? Clearly not. Indeed, our problem has amplified! We are forced to ask the same question again, because another “my” relation has been introduced, and this possessive relation is between a “me” and a “mine.” Therefore, since the “me” being referred to is nothing other than “my brain” and the “mine” being referred to is nothing other than “my brain,” the only available answer is the following: “my brain belongs to my brain which belongs to my brain.” We are thus forced to ask the same question, because we are trying to figure out who “my brain” belongs to. Ultimately, we are left asking the same question again, and again, and again without a conclusive answer. We have been driven into a vicious regress with no way of escape.
The only possible solution is to reject the view that I am “my brain,” and adopt the view that “my brain” belongs to “something” other than “my brain,” and this “something” is me. Therefore, I am not my brain, and my brain is not me.
I agree, I was just having this conversation with my brother, of I had a different method. Brain illusions, I told him that the brain is processing error to which you (living soul) is catching, now if you were your brain then the error being displayed wouldn't be a problem. However you (living soul) see it and you can try your hardest to fix it that said nothing will happen. On that note, the mirror experiment done on animals is not a good indicator to see if animals can be self aware. The only to animals that are known are chimpanzees and dolphins. This doesn't prove that they are self aware, the brain is capable of adapting to the environment it is in and we know that brain that are more complex can adapt better. The things you said is good for letting people understand what they are.
What are you then?...that is the question.
The Law myoho-renge-kyo represents the identity of what some scientists refer to as the ‘unified field of all consciousnesses’. In other words, it’s a sound vibration that is the essence of all of existence and non-existence, the ultimate creative force behind planets, stars, nebulae, people, animals, trees, fish, birds, and all phenomena, manifest or latent. All matter and intelligence are simply waves or ripples manifesting to and from this core source. Consciousness (enlightenment) is itself the true creator of everything that is, ever was and ever will be, right down to the minutest particles of dust, each being an individual ripple or wave. The big difference between chanting Nam-myoho-renge-kyo and most other conventional prayers is that instead of depending on a ‘middleman’ to connect us to our state of enlightenment, we’re able to do it ourselves by tapping directly into it by way of self-produced sound vibration.
On the subject of ‘Who or What Is God?’, when we compare the concept of ‘God’, as a separate entity that is forever watching down on us, to Nichiren’s teachings, the true omnipotence, omniscience and omnipresence of what most people call ‘God’ is our enlightenment, which exists nowhere else but within us.
When the disciples asked Jesus where the Kingdom of God is, didn’t he tell them that it was within them?
Some say that ‘God’ is an entity that can never be seen. I think that the vast amount of information that is constantly being conveyed via electromagnetic waves gives us proof of how an invisible state of ‘God’ could actually exist. It’s widely known that certain data being relayed by way of electromagnetic waves has the potential to help bring about extraordinary and powerful effects, including instant global awareness of something or mass emotional reaction. As well as many other things, it’s also common knowledge that these waves can easily be used to detonate a bomb or to even enable NASA to control the movements of a robot as far away as the Moon or Mars. However, none of this is possible without a receiver to decode the information that is being transmitted. Without the receiver, the information would remain impotent.
In a very similar way, it’s important for us to have our ‘receiver’ switched on so that we can activate a clear and precise understanding of our life, all other life and what we and all else that exists truly is. Chanting Nam-myoho-renge-kyo helps us to achieve this because it allows us to reach into the core of our enlightenment and switch it on. That’s because the sound vibration of myoho-renge-kyo represents the combination of the three major laws that underlie all existence.
Myoho represents the Law of latency and manifestation (Nature) and consists of two alternating states. One state of myo is where everything in life that’s not obvious to us exists. This includes our stored memories when we’re not thinking about them, our hidden potential and inner emotions whenever they’re not being expressed, our desires, our fears, our wisdom, happiness, karma, and more importantly, our enlightenment. The other state, ho, is where everything in Life exists whenever it becomes obvious to us, such as when a thought pops up from within our memory, whenever we experience or express our emotions, or whenever a good or bad effect manifests from our karma. When anything becomes apparent, it simply means that it has come out of the state of ‘myo’ (dormancy/latency) and into a state of ho (manifestation). It’s simply the difference between consciousness and unconsciousness, being awake or asleep, or knowing and not knowing something.
The second law, renge, governs and controls the functions of myoho, ren meaning cause and ge meaning effect. The two laws of myoho and renge, both functions together simultaneously, as well as underlies all spiritual and physical existence.
The final and third part of the tri-combination, kyo, is what allows the law myoho to be able to integrate with the law renge. It’s the great, invisible thread of energy that fuses and connects together all Life and matter, as well as the past, present and future. It is often termed the Universal Law of Communication. Perhaps it could even be compared to the string theory that some scientists now suspect exists.
Just as our body cells, thoughts, feelings and all else are constantly fluctuating within us, everything in the world around us and beyond is also in a constant state of flux, in accordance with these three laws. In fact, more things are going back and forth between the two states of myo and ho in a single moment than it would ever be possible for us to calculate or describe. And it doesn't matter how big or small, important or trivial that anything may appear to be, everything that’s ever existed in the past exists now or will exist in the future, exists only because of the workings of myoho-renge-kyo.
These three laws are also the basis of the four fundamental forces and if they didn't function, neither we nor anything else could go on existing. Simply put, all forms of existence, including the seasons, day and night, birth, death and so on, are all moving forward in an ongoing flow of continuation, rhythmically reverting back and forth between the two universal states of myo and ho in absolute accordance with renge and by way of kyo. Even stars are dying and being reborn in accordance with the workings of what the combination myoho-renge-kyo represents.
Nam, or Namu, on the other hand, is a password or a key; it allows us to reach deep into our life and fuse with or become one with myoho-renge-kyo. On a more personal basis, nothing ever happens by chance or coincidence, it’s the causes that we’ve made in our past, or are presently making, that determine how these laws function uniquely in each of our lives from moment to moment, as well in our environment. By facing east, in harmony with the direction that the Earth is turning, and rhythmically chanting Nam-myoho-renge-kyo for a minimum of ten minutes daily, anyone can experience actual proof of its positive effects in their life.
In so doing, we can pierce through even the thickest layers of our karma and activate our Buddha Nature (the enlightened state). We’re then able to summon forth the wisdom needed to challenge, overcome and change our negative circumstances into positive ones. It brings forth the wisdom that can free us from the ignorance and stupidity that is preventing us from accepting and being proud of the person that we truly are, regardless of our race, colour, gender or sexual preference. We are also able to see and understand our circumstances and an environment more clearly, as well as attract and connect with any needed external beneficial forces and situations.
Actual proof soon becomes apparent to anyone who chants the words Nam-myoho-renge-kyo on a regular daily basis. Everything is subject to the law of Cause and Effect, so the strength of the result from chanting depends on dedication, sincerity and determination. To explain it more simply, the difference could be compared to making a sound on a piano, creating a melody, or producing a song and so on.
NB: There are frightening, disturbing sounds and there are tranquil and relaxing sounds. It's the emotional result from any sound that can trigger off a mood or even instantly change one. When chanting Nam-Myoho-Renge-Kyo each day you are producing a sound vibration that is the password to your true inner-self - this soon becomes apparent when you start reassessing your views on various things, such as your fears and desires etc. The important way to get the best result when chanting is not to see things in a conventional way (difficult to achieve but can be done), rather than reaching out to an external source, you need to reach into your own life and bring your needs and desires to fruition from within, including any help that you may need. Think of it as a seed within you that you are bringing sunshine and water to in order for it to grow, blossom and bring forth fruit or flowers. It’s important to understand that everything that we need in life, all the answers and potential to achieve our dreams, already exist within us.
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Except "measurements" in this context means interaction between two systems not having quantum entanglement. And this in no way requires consciousness. So this is where you start the stawman.
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For the second link:
I explicitly wrote "systems that are not entangled". Since the particles in both the expt you mentioned in video and link are entangled it does not count.
For the first link:
Ok, i admit that I was wrong. However the stawman i pointed out is still a stawman. This is because:
Measurements might require a conscious observer however, when a system collapses for an observer it collapses for that observer only. It collapses for other observers only when either the other observer observes it directly or gets the knowledge from the direct observer. If conscious observes are required to collapse the system then getting this news from another observer is also a direct observation and hence collapsing a system in superposition albeit of a different nature because here it is assumed that everything is governed by q mech and hence the first observer should be too to the second observer. Therefore for the reality to exist to any observer they themselves are sufficient. An universal consciousness is not required.
Not really, as this paper says, arxiv.org/pdf/1206.6578.pdf
"The presence of path information anywhere in the universe is sufficient to prohibit any possibility of interference. It is irrelevant whether a future observer might decide to acquire it."
So if any observe causes collapse another doesn't need to cause collapse as well.
Second, the inference to a cosmic consciousness is based on the contingent status of us. We do not control the universe, create it, or create ourselves.
What i meant by collapsing of the wavefunction is the collapse of the wavefunction determining the state of the first observer. To gain the knowledge of the result the second observer has to either observe the system directly or take it from the first observer. And as long as the 2nd obs does not have the information regarding the state of any system entangled to the system in question(the first observer included) or the system itself the result is probabilistic and exists in a quantum superposition. To 2nd obs it is not collapsed. This is however with the assumption that everything w.r.t. any conscious observer operates based on q mech(including any other observer). If there is anything that behaves classically then a probability can collapse without any observer.
But still would you tell me where in the paper that line is written ? It is a 13 page paper so it becomes easier to locate the context that way.
Second, putting a creator does not explain how the universe exists if the relevant mechanisms emplyed by the creator are not mentioned. If those are mentioned however then the creator is not needed. This was already mentioned in a comment in another video.
Anything classic that interferes with a wave function causes collapse, that is not the point because it ignores the philosophical implications of that, where were addressed in my video on the measurement problem.
That is shifting the goalpost and it does not address the inference to theism, one bit by changing the subject mechanism. Also, that would not even show the theistic inference does not follow. That is a non-sequitur argument, at best.
Who you pick
Re the statement at 11:04 that "God would be outside of space-time altogether, and contain all the information of space-time in a single timeless instance". This relates to what Anthony Peake said about time and the speed of light. He pointed out that at the speed of light, time stops, so from the point of view of a photon, the moment when it was created 13 billion years ago and the moment it hits your eye are the same moment! I would say God is both outside and inside space-time.
To me consciousness is to believe that whom offended you never meant to and is just confessing fear for God.;or who neglected you was just confused and needed attention for itself in order to make sense of emotional challenges.
So if source consciousness is God than anything/anyone having consciousness is connected in a network but wouldn’t that make everyone ONE being when they die? Would that mean that only the self exists? Theology and solipsism can work together, you know
That is assuming you lose your individuality when you die. I am not convinced of that, see here: ua-cam.com/video/rlBO0Y9GJhk/v-deo.html
So basically, God is experiencing us, and every other conscious being? He experiences our choices? and not the other way around? Both at the same time maybe?
333 Studios Psalm 8:3-4 3When I look at your heavens, the work of your fingers,
the moon and the stars, which you have set in place,
4what is man that you are mindful of him,
and the son of man that you care for him?