The main reason Gandalf wanted the rest of the fellowship to run away. Gandalf didn’t want to share the experience points. From the battle with the Balrog.
I like to think that the two Maiar threw insults as well as swords and whips whilst fighting (I mean it's a long time to go without talking) and the Balrog would call him Olorin and Gandalf actually knew this thing from ages past.
"The True Mission" is a necessity! Well done, and thank you! 😄 Leaving Frodo to his own fate must have been one of the hardest things Gandalf ever *had* to do...
I think the movies did a fantastic job and was even more impressed with the extended cut versions. The amount of fan art and theories make it seem like I am reading the books and watching the movies again for the first time. Cheers.
I think Peter Jackson's portrayal of Gandalf's return was as well done as it could be, considering that he was limited to the information given in the trilogy itself. If he had been allowed to use information from Unfinished Tales and other sources, I think the entire trilogy would have been improved... but what was produced was the best it could have been, I think.
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I was angry and disappointed not to see Tom Bombadil and Arwen instead of Glorfindel when i first watched the movie but he did worst to Gandalf. Humiliated by Saruman, Not mentioning he fought the full company of Nazgul a night long. Portraying him as a puny old man against a human witch, who would be killed by a hobbit (with an elven weapon) and a girl in a few minutes. No i dont think Jackson did any better with Gandalf as he did with Galadriel and Celeborn.
@ yeah as great as the movies are, Jackson didn't do that great of a job at showing the characters as they are, I guess Sam is the one that is truly accurate? (although he PJ also kind of butchered the dynamic of Frodo/Gollum/Sam as well
A movie should be made of the journey of the two blue wizards it be interesting to imagine there own missions and obstacles and what is beyond middle earth
The casting of Gandalf for the trilogy was perfection. I read the Ring of Power trilogy when it first appeared in paperback and I could not put it down. I am now in my 70's and still feel that reading this magical creation of Tolkien's one of the greatest gifts to me in my life as an avid reader.
Not a trilogy :) Read it on the first page. Just one book, split into 6 books, in 3 volumes. Tolkien resented the idea of people calling it a trilogy, as he writes there himself (I’ve the 50th anniversary edition from HarperCollins). Otherwise agree on all points!
I must thank you. I've read and listened to LOTR more times than I can count and I never picked up that it was Gsndalf instructing Frodo to take the ring off on Amon Hen while he, Gandalf, was literally spiritually battling with Sauron. Again, thanks so much for that insight as it isn't often I learn something new about this trilogy.
Definitely enjoyed the details on the story of Gandalf! Thank you! And yes, definitely I would have loved to see it included in the movie. So why not a movie on Gandalf from beginning to end?
I would have loved to seen a bit more of Gandalf’s battle against the Balrog in the movie as well as a bit more backstory on the Balrogs. I have read LOTR and The Silmarillion but it would have been nice for those who haven’t read the books. Other than that I loved Peter Jackson’s opening scene in Two Towers with Gandalf fighting the Balrog, epic.
Jackson did a pretty damn good job with this take on the original word. He really stuck with it almost word for word. I saw a behind the scenes where Ian and Jackson are telling each other, "You shall not pass" because it was a bit over the top. It was great to see them going back and forth "You ....." good stuff I think!
When Gandalf, a Maia wrapped in a bodily form, says he “laid naked” for sometime with his thought wandering and so on… *Can he be referring NOT to his clothes, but to his bodily form, his human wrap?* Maybe he laid at the top of those Mountains as a spirit of light, a shinning spot like some fallen star, until he was rewrapped into his new bodily form (which was indeed “light as a swan feather” to Gwaihir’s grip)
"Durin's Bane" (the Balrog's name according to the dwarves) indeed had a good end for one such he was. Peter Jackson could have done a movie on Gandalf alone. Some those battles and trial wold have been worth watching. The Battle and fall of "Durin's Bane" woud have been a great opening scene. THE TRUE MISSION!
This video came out at the most perfect time for me, after watching you guys for years and reading LOTR lore online, I finally started reading the books. Just finished Fellowship, starting Two Towers today 👏
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I always wondered how they fought after landing in the water and how they got to the peak. Did they just keep walking in a straight line whilst occasionally tapping swords?
When the Balrog had its fire quenched and became a "thing of slime, and stronger than a strangling snake", it was actually in a relatively weak state. The fire that it wields is what gives and restores its power.
Good work Broken Sword! You have no idea how much this inspires me! I realise, hearing such a careful reconstruction of what seemed a blurred chase, this is not a one-off event, rather a sort of Robert Bly or Jungian myth, the sort of bete noir clash of dualities that is a sort of universal experience where we mortals are brushed with a reminder of out True Mission. I don't pretend to know what this is, looking forward to that video. As this one was instrumental in insight through careful quotation of the actual book text, I shall hunt up my old American knock-off paperback edition and hunt around for more quotes about our true mission as... well we aren't all wizards in life I'm sure. But all the same I'm quite sure we all play a role in a grand drama, quite similar as to the inner life of wizards, in some sense, knocking about with demons in personal underworlds. Anyway, this video inspired me to write 11 stanzas about the Bridge of Khazed-Dum, and your forthcoming videos may yet inspire more... I shall subscribe.
I think Peter Jackson did a magnificent job considering there is SO much to tell. He had to pick and chose the scenes that would align with the entire story being in movie form. It seems like there should be a seperate film just for the scenes that are important would be shared. You could not do this in the Lord of the Rings movies themselves and keep the continuity of the whole completion of it throughout till the end at the Return of the King
I thought that Peter Jackson did a remarkable job of depicting this battle. When I was a kid reading the books, over and over, I ALWAYS jumped ahead from the Bridge of Kazad-Dum chapter in Fellowship to the White Rider chapter in Two Towers.
Growing up with the film Trilogy as my primary introduction to the world of Middle Earth, I personally prefer you shall not pass. It's just such an iconic line that I cannot help but actually yell it myself whenever I watch the movies
One thing I've always wondered, is that if Bilbo was using the ring from when he found it, was Sauron aware of it moving about the world again? Especially if he's in Dol Guldur at the time. Ok, he wouldn't have had time to act on it because he was about to be booted out, but I still wonder.
Sauron put a great deal of his native power into the One Ring in order to gain mastery of the lesser rings (including the eleven which he never touched nor saw), this resulted in his not knowing the location of the ring. Even when Frodo and Sam were in Mordor on the way to Mount Doom, and only became aware when Frodo declared himself while the ring was at full power since it had returned to the place of its making.
@gotmilkforme Sauron only never touched the three Elven rings. He had a hand in the making of the others. Read the the book and pay attention next time.
@@bendream544 “Therefore the Three remained unsullied, for they were forged by Celebrimbor alone, and the hand of Sauron had never touched them. Silmarillion - Of the Rings of Power and the Third Age.
Would LOVE having a "wall sized" Poster of the 5 Astarti that you briefly showed. Would be happy to pay shipping and printing and for your time. Thank You!!
Beautiful artwork, I also liked the Balrog in the film but I feel like the book only describes a being that fits through a large door and wielding evil magic
In the entire genre of fantasy, the claim in this video that the showdown between Gandalf and the Balrog is the greatest of all is subjective. I thought the fight between aslan and the white witch of narnia was good too - i'll never forget the phrase 'dispair and die' as the white witch plunges the dagger into Aslan. I've often wondered what would've happened if Aslan had turned up at Minas Tirith and confronted the witch king. Also, there's Watership Down and Efrafa or even the challenge just to survive against the elil - 'can you run? I think not'. But Tolkien produced a lot more work and much more detail than the other two regarding his fantasy world. Hats off to him. The video asks the question what do we think about how Jackson handled this section of loftrs? I havent seen the movies for a while, but from memory, jackson did ok.
The one known as Gandalf, like all servant of God, and His Love, does not willingly dwells on the death of ones who has fail. This is because we all knew each other before the fall of the Angels to the servant of the dark one.
What I never understood was why, if Gandalf had been tended by Galadriel and then decided to meet up with Aragorn, Legolas and Gimli, did he then act confused and like he didn't remember them or even who he was when he did meet up with them? Never made sense.
As a child, I called it The Razing of the Shire. Because Sharkey (Saruman) had "razed" and destroyed much of the Shire, but also Frodo, Samwise, Merridoc, and Pippin "raised" the Shire up against the forces of Saruman. Hence the double meaning.
@@Rebelrocker69 Merridoc+Pippin saying come on 2 will be enough, Gandalf knew beforehand and finally Sharkey saying to frodo you have become wise halfling,and cruel,not Hobbit but Halfling.
Had to add another thought: Gandalf died going off quest in order to save the quest and rid Middle-earth of a lingering First Age demon that was a magnitude of Power greater than anything still living in Middle-earth. I believe God found that Gandalf using his full strength was not only warranted but necessary for the completion of their quest. It wasnt the first or last time Eru Illvator intervened during the the Quest of the Ring!!
When he was sent back, Gandalf was still an Istar, so though the limitations put on him by the Valar were much lessened, he was still far less a Power than Sauron was, for example, and still needed to be tested Although he had much greater capacity for really great deeds, Gandalf the White, the White Rider, was still a “lesser Maia” (I’m talking about “Gandalf, the Istar”, not “Olorin, the Maia”)
It was the valar who put limitations on him, why do people keep seeing the valar as gods? It was Eru who sent the Ishtari, it was Eru who limited their powers, and it was Eru who sent Gandalf back. There is only one God in Lotr and it’s Eru the one who wields the power of the flame imperishable, hence why Gandalf declares himself a servant of the secret fire of Anor, aka Eru, aka God as in the Christian God.
@@jarlwilliam9932 the Valar were parts of Eru, aspects of His intelect, and so on. They were the means through which Eru acted, part of Himself. And so were the Maiar. All of them were “gods”. The limitations were put on the Istari because the gods realised that every time they directly interfered on Middle Earth’s affairs, they ended up destroying many lands and peoples in the process. So they sent those “lessened Maiar” just to inspire and to lead the folks of Middle Earth to their victory
@@TETASARAIVACS No, they where not gods, none of the angels in the Bible are gods. Tolkien quite literally said the valar where not gods, he simply called them higher angelic beings.
@@jarlwilliam9932 but Tolkien explicitly wrote that the Valar were what the peoples of Middle Earth used to call “gods”. We could compare the Valar to the Greek Gods. Whatever Tolkien had said about it, his mythology is like a mixture of Catholic religion and Greek Mythology
@@TETASARAIVACS No we don’t, because he made that distinction is the valar or the angels of God where what pagans referred to gods in their own faith. Explicitly speaking in Christian theology all pagan gods are fallen angels, some of whom sought redemption and lead their chosen nations in better preparation to serve God when the word was spread around the globe. The Valar do not under any circumstances have the power to shape or control, or destroy anything in Arda beyond that which Eru gives and commands them. The Valar did not make anything in Arda, they sang the song of creation, and Eru created what they sung about. It all goes back to Eru, the one, The Father of all. Tolkien even wrote a Jesus allegory into his work in the ring of Morgoth books.
Yes please on “The True Mission”. Great story on Gandalf’s return!
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Sir ians gandalf was a masterpiece. The movies would not be anywhere near as captivating without him.
I don’t think anyone could play Gandalf any better
Google point.
@@Joe-h4i1939true, but I would have loved to see how Sir Christopher Lee might've played Gandalf.
Not even Richard Harris would compare
Yep!!! Best character transfer from book to screen in any Tolkein non-book medium!!! Just my opinion!!
*Can we take a moment to appreciate how much work he puts into these videos for us 😍*
Thank you so much 💚
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No. THey dont' even write their own videos and don't edit them. All they do is narrate.
How about no.
The main reason Gandalf wanted the rest of the fellowship to run away. Gandalf didn’t want to share the experience points. From the battle with the Balrog.
😂😂
He’s not rolling for drops.
That's exactly what I thought 😂
He knew what he had experienced the rest of the fellowship would probably not understand the change Gandalf died his spirit survived.
@@deevnson7695 Indeed.
The true mission. The scene where Gandalf battles the balrog in the two towers is epic!.
The artwork is fantastic in this video- seriously amazing
I like to think that the two Maiar threw insults as well as swords and whips whilst fighting (I mean it's a long time to go without talking) and the Balrog would call him Olorin and Gandalf actually knew this thing from ages past.
who knows if they know each other. think about it, you know your 50 cousins? i barely know a dozen.
They knew each other from Choir.
"The True Mission" is a necessity! Well done, and thank you! 😄
Leaving Frodo to his own fate must have been one of the hardest things Gandalf ever *had* to do...
Frodo shouldve thrown the ring under that bridge
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Where one of the Nameless Things would have claimed it? No way!
The True mission! Would love to hear more about this! 😊
Keep up the great content. The love for the world of Tolkien really comes across in your videos.
So many SPECIFIC details which are necessary for understanding Tolkien's intent, are relayed here! Well done!
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I'm just SOOOOO happy to find an actual person speaking into a microphone. Thank you!!!
I think the movies did a fantastic job and was even more impressed with the extended cut versions. The amount of fan art and theories make it seem like I am reading the books and watching the movies again for the first time. Cheers.
I think Peter Jackson's portrayal of Gandalf's return was as well done as it could be, considering that he was limited to the information given in the trilogy itself. If he had been allowed to use information from Unfinished Tales and other sources, I think the entire trilogy would have been improved... but what was produced was the best it could have been, I think.
I was angry and disappointed not to see Tom Bombadil and Arwen instead of Glorfindel when i first watched the movie but he did worst to Gandalf.
Humiliated by Saruman,
Not mentioning he fought the full company of Nazgul a night long.
Portraying him as a puny old man against a human witch, who would be killed by a hobbit (with an elven weapon) and a girl in a few minutes.
No i dont think Jackson did any better with Gandalf as he did with Galadriel and Celeborn.
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I concur 👍
@ yeah as great as the movies are, Jackson didn't do that great of a job at showing the characters as they are, I guess Sam is the one that is truly accurate? (although he PJ also kind of butchered the dynamic of Frodo/Gollum/Sam as well
@ I think the character Jackson got the most wrong was Faramir.
Agreed
A movie should be made of the journey of the two blue wizards it be interesting to imagine there own missions and obstacles and what is beyond middle earth
The casting of Gandalf for the trilogy was perfection. I read the Ring of Power trilogy when it first appeared in paperback and I could not put it down. I am now in my 70's and still feel that reading this magical creation of Tolkien's one of the greatest gifts to me in my life as an avid reader.
Not a trilogy :) Read it on the first page. Just one book, split into 6 books, in 3 volumes. Tolkien resented the idea of people calling it a trilogy, as he writes there himself (I’ve the 50th anniversary edition from HarperCollins).
Otherwise agree on all points!
I did not know that about the composition of the books. Thanks.@@fcturner
I must thank you. I've read and listened to LOTR more times than I can count and I never picked up that it was Gsndalf instructing Frodo to take the ring off on Amon Hen while he, Gandalf, was literally spiritually battling with Sauron. Again, thanks so much for that insight as it isn't often I learn something new about this trilogy.
I love the music you have used as the background for your voice over. Could listen to you narrate LoTR chapters for hours
Definitely enjoyed the details on the story of Gandalf! Thank you!
And yes, definitely I would have loved to see it included in the movie.
So why not a movie on Gandalf from beginning to end?
Fantastic video! It would be very enlightening if the "The True Mission" could be brought to light, especially of the two Blue Wizards.
"The True Mission" sounds like a great video idea. Especially a section or separate video on the mysterious Blue Wizards.
I would have loved to seen a bit more of Gandalf’s battle against the Balrog in the movie as well as a bit more backstory on the Balrogs. I have read LOTR and The Silmarillion but it would have been nice for those who haven’t read the books. Other than that I loved Peter Jackson’s opening scene in Two Towers with Gandalf fighting the Balrog, epic.
Jackson did a pretty damn good job with this take on the original word. He really stuck with it almost word for word. I saw a behind the scenes where Ian and Jackson are telling each other, "You shall not pass" because it was a bit over the top. It was great to see them going back and forth "You ....." good stuff I think!
Great visuals and narrative! Thank you for your time and energy!
When Gandalf, a Maia wrapped in a bodily form, says he “laid naked” for sometime with his thought wandering and so on… *Can he be referring NOT to his clothes, but to his bodily form, his human wrap?*
Maybe he laid at the top of those Mountains as a spirit of light, a shinning spot like some fallen star, until he was rewrapped into his new bodily form (which was indeed “light as a swan feather” to Gwaihir’s grip)
Can you guys make more videos each week please? I already watched them all and I need more.
If only there was the time!
Really good work with this episode and an exiting choice of Gandalfs whereabouts. Thank you.
"Durin's Bane" (the Balrog's name according to the dwarves) indeed had a good end for one such he was. Peter Jackson could have done a movie on Gandalf alone. Some those battles and trial wold have been worth watching. The Battle and fall of "Durin's Bane" woud have been a great opening scene.
THE TRUE MISSION!
The true mission would be greatly appreciated.
Love all the content yall put out
This video came out at the most perfect time for me, after watching you guys for years and reading LOTR lore online, I finally started reading the books. Just finished Fellowship, starting Two Towers today 👏
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James.
almost watched all your videos. you make great content
I always wondered how they fought after landing in the water and how they got to the peak. Did they just keep walking in a straight line whilst occasionally tapping swords?
When the Balrog had its fire quenched and became a "thing of slime, and stronger than a strangling snake", it was actually in a relatively weak state. The fire that it wields is what gives and restores its power.
The films should have given a real tough line to say upon his return. "I am the guy, I'm the white wizard. Now say my name."
There's something about the way the Balrog moves that inescapably puts me in mind of Ludo from Labyrinth(1986)
Good work Broken Sword! You have no idea how much this inspires me! I realise, hearing such a careful reconstruction of what seemed a blurred chase, this is not a one-off event, rather a sort of Robert Bly or Jungian myth, the sort of bete noir clash of dualities that is a sort of universal experience where we mortals are brushed with a reminder of out True Mission. I don't pretend to know what this is, looking forward to that video. As this one was instrumental in insight through careful quotation of the actual book text, I shall hunt up my old American knock-off paperback edition and hunt around for more quotes about our true mission as... well we aren't all wizards in life I'm sure. But all the same I'm quite sure we all play a role in a grand drama, quite similar as to the inner life of wizards, in some sense, knocking about with demons in personal underworlds. Anyway, this video inspired me to write 11 stanzas about the Bridge of Khazed-Dum, and your forthcoming videos may yet inspire more... I shall subscribe.
The True Mission! Love all of these breakdowns.
Jackson's Gandalf was perfect, just enough detail to keep me glued
DEFINITELY 'Yes Please' on the True Mission. Love your vids.
I think Peter Jackson did a magnificent job considering there is SO much to tell. He had to pick and chose the scenes that would align with the entire story being in movie form. It seems like there should be a seperate film just for the scenes that are important would be shared. You could not do this in the Lord of the Rings movies themselves and keep the continuity of the whole completion of it throughout till the end at the Return of the King
Just imagine, hordes of orcs, dragons and balrogs against elves and their great cities! Just imagine the sheer scale!
The true mission love this channel
I thought that Peter Jackson did a remarkable job of depicting this battle. When I was a kid reading the books, over and over, I ALWAYS jumped ahead from the Bridge of Kazad-Dum chapter in Fellowship to the White Rider chapter in Two Towers.
Great video. Well done.
Yesss, The True Mission, I have been very interested in how you will tell it!
Growing up with the film Trilogy as my primary introduction to the world of Middle Earth, I personally prefer you shall not pass.
It's just such an iconic line that I cannot help but actually yell it myself whenever I watch the movies
The True Mission 👍 Great video.
Would love to see a video on the true mission.
I'd have liked some more detail about what happened after the battle with the Balrog but he did a great job with it nonetheless.
I think a video on how LotR influenced fantasy media like Dungeons and Dragons would be most excellent.
Please do make "The True Mission" video I love your work!!
Thank you for this !!!
Some random hikers must’ve looked up and saw an old naked shiny dude riding a giant Eagle in the sky lmaooo
One thing I've always wondered, is that if Bilbo was using the ring from when he found it, was Sauron aware of it moving about the world again? Especially if he's in Dol Guldur at the time. Ok, he wouldn't have had time to act on it because he was about to be booted out, but I still wonder.
I think not until he grilled Gollum but probably was probing the area where it was lost but only 3 lived to come back until Gollums cousin found it.
Its only that Frodo is sitting on the hill of sight that would have made him visible to Sauron and the fact he is wearing the ring also.
Sauron put a great deal of his native power into the One Ring in order to gain mastery of the lesser rings (including the eleven which he never touched nor saw), this resulted in his not knowing the location of the ring. Even when Frodo and Sam were in Mordor on the way to Mount Doom, and only became aware when Frodo declared himself while the ring was at full power since it had returned to the place of its making.
@gotmilkforme Sauron only never touched the three Elven rings. He had a hand in the making of the others. Read the the book and pay attention next time.
@@bendream544 “Therefore the Three remained unsullied, for they were forged by Celebrimbor alone, and the hand of Sauron had never touched them. Silmarillion - Of the Rings of Power and the Third Age.
I'll always remember what my third grade teacher told me that fateful day: *"YOU SHALL NOT PASS!"* So I kicked her in the shin.
"Secretly, great holes are digged where the Earth's pores ought to suffice and things have learnt to walk that ought to crawl." -- HP Lovecraft
Would LOVE having a "wall sized" Poster of the 5 Astarti that you briefly showed. Would be happy to pay shipping and printing and for your time. Thank You!!
The bridge is like crossing your enemies T just like Leyte Gulf,outstanding engerineering by Durin and the Dwarves
Beautiful artwork, I also liked the Balrog in the film but I feel like the book only describes a being that fits through a large door and wielding evil magic
Very interested in a True Mission Episode. Thanks.
It was always my understanding, and maybe it was mistaken, that Gandalf went to the Timeless Halls and not Valinor when he “dies”? 6:09
very nice video
Someone always says here that the old wizard "leveled up!". Gandalf probably got a huge number of experience points by defeating the Balrog. Lol.
Leveled up... No he evolved..
@@Marvin-eo8jw I know. I think it's kind of a joke.
Talk about perfect casting, I couldn't imagine anyone else playing gandalf and I doubt anyone else could either. Sir ian is just perfect.
In the entire genre of fantasy, the claim in this video that the showdown between Gandalf and the Balrog is the greatest of all is subjective. I thought the fight between aslan and the white witch of narnia was good too - i'll never forget the phrase 'dispair and die' as the white witch plunges the dagger into Aslan. I've often wondered what would've happened if Aslan had turned up at Minas Tirith and confronted the witch king. Also, there's Watership Down and Efrafa or even the challenge just to survive against the elil - 'can you run? I think not'. But Tolkien produced a lot more work and much more detail than the other two regarding his fantasy world. Hats off to him.
The video asks the question what do we think about how Jackson handled this section of loftrs? I havent seen the movies for a while, but from memory, jackson did ok.
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I would love to know more about The True Mission!
The True Mission please. New subscriber here; Tolkien fan since first reading The Hobbit around 1980.
True Mission!
Also, please could you explain the confrontation of Gandalf the white and the King of Angmar in Minas Tirith
The one known as Gandalf, like all servant of God, and His Love, does not willingly dwells on the death of ones who has fail. This is because we all knew each other before the fall of the Angels to the servant of the dark one.
Can't wait to learn about "the true mission" 🤘🏾
Peter Jackson was fantastic. Like you and this detailed account. Great!
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‘True Mission’! Yes please 🙏🏼
Yes, please make a vid on “The True Mission”
The beginning of PJs two towers is the greatest sequel opening of all time
Great video. I’m well in favour of The True Mission.
What I never understood was why, if Gandalf had been tended by Galadriel and then decided to meet up with Aragorn, Legolas and Gimli, did he then act confused and like he didn't remember them or even who he was when he did meet up with them? Never made sense.
The true mission. Would love to see that video.
I miss the scouring of the Shire,perhaps if done in 2+2 but I don't know the restraints PJ had but all in all I can't see anyone doing better.
As a child, I called it The Razing of the Shire. Because Sharkey (Saruman) had "razed" and destroyed much of the Shire, but also Frodo, Samwise, Merridoc, and Pippin "raised" the Shire up against the forces of Saruman. Hence the double meaning.
@@Rebelrocker69 Merridoc+Pippin saying come on 2 will be enough, Gandalf knew beforehand and finally Sharkey saying to frodo you have become wise halfling,and cruel,not Hobbit but Halfling.
Even the extended ones were long. I wouldn't mind the books version in it, but most others wouldn't have, unfortunately
Gandalf got his memory bus increased from 128 to 256 bits
Please, we need to hear about "The true Mission" ! :D
Had to add another thought: Gandalf died going off quest in order to save the quest and rid Middle-earth of a lingering First Age demon that was a magnitude of Power greater than anything still living in Middle-earth. I believe God found that Gandalf using his full strength was not only warranted but necessary for the completion of their quest. It wasnt the first or last time Eru Illvator intervened during the the Quest of the Ring!!
One question I always wondered, what happened to the Balrog after his death. Would he be able to come back in the future, or did he go to Valinor?
Someone put headphones on him as he laid there and played the Magnataurus song "Stormcrow".😤
I didn't read the books so when I seen Gandalf Fighting the Balrog I thought the peak they fought on was underground. Not the highest peak of Moria.
The True Mission please!! ❤
You are right, it is rare a movie is better and more detailed than the book that inspired it, isn’t it?
Was that balrog in question working for Sauron?
Btw, I believe Gandalf actualy said in movie "you canot pass" as his first words to balrog
I always looked at his "change" as Gandalf "leveling up!"👍😀I mean, the XP from such a kill woulda been, LEVELING!!!👍😀🤘😂
more details would been nice.
When he was sent back, Gandalf was still an Istar, so though the limitations put on him by the Valar were much lessened, he was still far less a Power than Sauron was, for example, and still needed to be tested
Although he had much greater capacity for really great deeds, Gandalf the White, the White Rider, was still a “lesser Maia”
(I’m talking about “Gandalf, the Istar”, not “Olorin, the Maia”)
It was the valar who put limitations on him, why do people keep seeing the valar as gods? It was Eru who sent the Ishtari, it was Eru who limited their powers, and it was Eru who sent Gandalf back.
There is only one God in Lotr and it’s Eru the one who wields the power of the flame imperishable, hence why Gandalf declares himself a servant of the secret fire of Anor, aka Eru, aka God as in the Christian God.
@@jarlwilliam9932 the Valar were parts of Eru, aspects of His intelect, and so on. They were the means through which Eru acted, part of Himself. And so were the Maiar. All of them were “gods”.
The limitations were put on the Istari because the gods realised that every time they directly interfered on Middle Earth’s affairs, they ended up destroying many lands and peoples in the process. So they sent those “lessened Maiar” just to inspire and to lead the folks of Middle Earth to their victory
@@TETASARAIVACS No, they where not gods, none of the angels in the Bible are gods.
Tolkien quite literally said the valar where not gods, he simply called them higher angelic beings.
@@jarlwilliam9932 but Tolkien explicitly wrote that the Valar were what the peoples of Middle Earth used to call “gods”.
We could compare the Valar to the Greek Gods.
Whatever Tolkien had said about it, his mythology is like a mixture of Catholic religion and Greek Mythology
@@TETASARAIVACS No we don’t, because he made that distinction is the valar or the angels of God where what pagans referred to gods in their own faith. Explicitly speaking in Christian theology all pagan gods are fallen angels, some of whom sought redemption and lead their chosen nations in better preparation to serve God when the word was spread around the globe.
The Valar do not under any circumstances have the power to shape or control, or destroy anything in Arda beyond that which Eru gives and commands them.
The Valar did not make anything in Arda, they sang the song of creation, and Eru created what they sung about.
It all goes back to Eru, the one, The Father of all. Tolkien even wrote a Jesus allegory into his work in the ring of Morgoth books.
Great video. The movie didn't do this part of story its do. The real mission needs covered
Great battle and portrayed very good in the movie but how come Gandalf chose to fight the Balrog instead of leaving?
Do the True Mission plz!
The fear in lilegolas eyes gets me every time
If he is scared then TOLKIEN run
Great video but you’re wrong about something, the Istari were nowhere near the level of Sauron, they were to Sauron as Nienna was to Melkor
The True Mission! Please! :D