Why Legolas Didn't Want To Be King | Legolas After The Lord of the Rings

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  • Опубліковано 17 вер 2024
  • Today we discover the important events of Legolas' life that turned him away from his royal duties in Mirkwood, and towards other interests in Middle-earth.
    Find out why Legolas never became King of Mirkwood, and the far away land he went on to rule over instead.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 115

  • @FairlyFictional
    @FairlyFictional  25 днів тому +13

    Where would you prefer to live after the War of the Ring?
    Ithilien, Minas Tirith or the Glittering Caves?

    • @oslaskid
      @oslaskid 25 днів тому +2

      Ithilien. Not sure why, but it always appealed to me in the book.

    • @GoldDragon1
      @GoldDragon1 22 дні тому +1

      The Shire, actually. Thier simple livelyhoods are rather comforting.

    • @timonsolus
      @timonsolus 22 дні тому

      Minas Tirith

    • @fred20097
      @fred20097 22 дні тому

      All three lol

    • @tva7263
      @tva7263 22 дні тому

      I would have to agree, the Shire or maybe the Gray Havens

  • @seventhson27
    @seventhson27 22 дні тому +79

    Gimli: I never thought I'd be dying with an Elf.
    Legolas: How about dying with a friend?
    Gimli: Aye.

  • @LornRoberts
    @LornRoberts 24 дні тому +102

    Whats the point of being a prince when the king is immortal and will outlive mountains.

    • @MadLFC
      @MadLFC 23 дні тому +19

      Insurance policy.

    • @AniwayasSong
      @AniwayasSong 23 дні тому +28

      1) Elves can be killed.
      2) Kingdoms can/do expand, so having Royal offspring handy to rule over them is a wise idea.
      :-)

    • @AniwayasSong
      @AniwayasSong 23 дні тому +8

      @@MadLFC
      Damn.
      You nailed it using two words, while I had to type it out!
      Well done!

    • @MrBottlecapBill
      @MrBottlecapBill 22 дні тому +10

      @@MadLFC A policy that high a high probability of never paying out. Legolas could just as likely be killed before his father. In fact being a prince who is constantly leading troops in war and guarding borders etc for eternity.......it's more likely he would be killed first, or at the very least being at war WITH his father would die at the same time. Not many elven realms historically survived the deaths of their kings.

    • @eaglefangkaratedojo7473
      @eaglefangkaratedojo7473 20 днів тому +19

      Actually canonically according to nature of middle earth the kings themselves eventually wanna chill and do other stuff after a few millennia so they resign if they live on. Reason we don’t see it happen in the first age is too little time passed

  • @Blaster192
    @Blaster192 17 днів тому +64

    I realized that being immortal kinda sucks. In the end. Legolas stayed without any of his friends! Even though Frodo and Sam sailed for undying lands, they still died there! Same goes for Gimli. He was allowed into Undying lands but one day he died too! Aragorn died of old age also! It must have been devastating from Legolas to see all of his friends died, especially Gimli! Gandalf is the only person he could meet from the fellowship, since he is immortal just like Legolas! They now live only in his memory for eternity! Isn't that kinda sad? Sometimes, mortality is a gift!

    • @tonyp.bahama9368
      @tonyp.bahama9368 15 днів тому +8

      Tolkien knew this.

    • @isvan6462
      @isvan6462 14 днів тому +17

      Well it’s just like achilles said in the movie troy about being mortal (The gods envy us. They envy us because we’re mortal, because any moment may be our last. Everything is more beautiful because we’re doomed. You will never be lovelier than you are now. We will never be here again.)

    • @carlosdanger1843
      @carlosdanger1843 10 днів тому +13

      But the elves are doomed themselves…when Arda passes, so do the elves…forever!
      Unlike the younger children of Ilúvatar - men, who died but live on forever.
      There’s a short dialogue between Finrod and a mortal woman wherein Finrod makes this point…that one day, the Eldar will cease to exist, whereas mankind will live on after their death…you can sense a real sadness in Finrod’s explanation of this doom.

    • @williamfleckles
      @williamfleckles 9 днів тому +7

      As Tolkien tells us through more than one of our Elfin friends, memories are to Elves as real as life. That said, memento mori, my friend

  • @Spartan-Of-Truth
    @Spartan-Of-Truth 21 день тому +31

    Wow, narration not filled with ‘googly’ emotion. But firm, fair and consistent speech. Kudos.

    • @FairlyFictional
      @FairlyFictional  21 день тому +8

      Thanks. Some people complain about the monotone. But each video is chopped into about 30 sections which are recorded separately and sometimes multiple takes to keep it sounding consistent. ☺️

    • @plumeria66
      @plumeria66 22 години тому +1

      Your voice is perfection! Don’t change!

  • @timonsolus
    @timonsolus 22 дні тому +29

    Legolas never became King of the Greenwood (Mirkwood) realm of his father Thranduil. But this might not only be because his father had not died.
    My question is - how long did the Elven realm of Greenwood survive into the Fourth Age? The time of the Elves in Middle Earth was ending, and I’m sure that Legolas was only the first of the Greenwood Elves to experience the sea-longing. As the centuries passed, many (and eventually all) of the Greenwood Elves would have moved to the Grey Havens, and from there sail to Valinor.

  • @verilyveronica8430
    @verilyveronica8430 25 днів тому +39

    He invented the Lego and we will always remember.

    • @jaime8318
      @jaime8318 24 дні тому +4

      The inspiration to create Lego came to him while he was rebuilding Ithilien.

    • @AniwayasSong
      @AniwayasSong 23 дні тому +4

      heh heh heh
      While simultaneously cursing him when we step on one of the damned things, barefooted!
      ;-)

    • @johnathanwalker8395
      @johnathanwalker8395 20 днів тому +2

      @@AniwayasSong he made them for hobbits, they can step all over them with those feet of theirs

    • @AniwayasSong
      @AniwayasSong 20 днів тому +1

      @@johnathanwalker8395
      heh heh heh
      I can actually see the logic behind that!
      ;-)

    • @LikeWhyTF
      @LikeWhyTF 19 днів тому +2

      Legend

  • @AniwayasSong
    @AniwayasSong 23 дні тому +16

    I clicked for the Title/topic, but the artwork as the video played? omgs!!!
    I always loved the 'LoTR/The Hobbit' and was totally enthralled with the different Races and their interactions. I couldn't get enough of Professor Tolkiens' world, growing up, and to this day still find it absolutely fascinating! (How ONE Man did this, I will never understand, but I'm happy he did!)

  • @saraross8396
    @saraross8396 21 день тому +13

    Apparently, the real reason the elven king is unnamed in the Hobbit is because Tolkien couldn't decide whether it should be Thranduil or another one (can't remember if it was Thingol or Gilgalad). In the end, this saved a lot of revision. In theory, it is possible for Legolas to have been there for in the Two Towers he fondly refers to Aragorn and Gimli as "children" when talking about Fangorn Forest. While I do not know Gimli's age at this point in the story, Aragorn is somewhere around 80, which would put him at around 2 years old at the time of Bilbo's adventures. I'd estimate that, at the very least, he's a few hundred years old, maybe even close to a thousand because the way he says it indicates that he hasn't felt young for a very very long time.

    • @dlevi67
      @dlevi67 20 днів тому

      According to the chronology in Appendix B of LOTR, Gimli was born TA 2879, which makes him about half a century older than Aragorn.

    • @Sullivanin
      @Sullivanin 11 днів тому

      Gimli was 139 during the quest

  • @MagashiSaizen
    @MagashiSaizen 7 днів тому +4

    To me the most heartbreaking thing in TLOR is how dull Middlearth starts becoming through the third age, everything that once made this land unique and rich in lore starts disappearing, even though is not tied to them specifically, Elves departing to the undying lands signifies the death of magic in a way taking away a little bit of color from such a lovely world.

    • @FairlyFictional
      @FairlyFictional  7 днів тому +1

      They should have let evil endure a little longer 😉

    • @MagashiSaizen
      @MagashiSaizen 7 днів тому +1

      @@FairlyFictional Technically thanks to Morgoth evil will always remain in middlearth, just at a lesser scope and degree.

    • @Reckoning2943
      @Reckoning2943 7 днів тому +3

      That’s why the lord of the rings in literary terms is essentially an elegy.
      There’s tons of linguistic and historic evidence for this in the world formation of Tolkien. Every name and every culture is created with purpose and in a specific relation to one another. The poetry within the stories, along with the name formation practices, when looked at in a historic/ linguistic context tell a whole new story within the story, and it essentially boils down to an analogy to our real world where we’re the hobbits. Just like how the Industrial Revolution and war has kickstarted the demise of most of the magic, traditions/legends and connection to nature that we used to have, the magic in middle earth is disappearing, only to be remembered as a legend by a few but mostly forgotten by anybody else.
      The lord of the rings is a story of lament, departure and longing and I urge everyone to go check out linguistic papers on the lord of the rings.
      Tolkien was a Professor for Linguistics and Literature, and once you delve into the story from that perspective, you’ll unlock so many new layers of that universe.

  • @JoeBoxerNo1
    @JoeBoxerNo1 6 днів тому +4

    I love your high fantasy music and voice.

  • @Svensk7119
    @Svensk7119 23 дні тому +12

    We don't actually know if he is Thranduil's only son.

    • @ketami2
      @ketami2 6 днів тому +1

      I thought he had 3 older brothers....

    • @Svensk7119
      @Svensk7119 5 днів тому +1

      @@ketami2 I don't remember ever hearing of others.

    • @ketami2
      @ketami2 5 днів тому +1

      @Svensk7119 I could honestly be wrong. I don't remember, and it's been too long since I read anything. Random passeryby here. Sorry. Sometimes, a thought just gets stuck in my head.

    • @Sarafimm2
      @Sarafimm2 2 дні тому

      @@ketami2 You may be thinking of Arwen's two older brothers.

  • @josephgriffin2388
    @josephgriffin2388 4 дні тому +3

    To think that Gimli, the only living Dwarf in Valinor, would meet his people's ultimate creator: AULE.

  • @fred20097
    @fred20097 22 дні тому +7

    I always thought he didn't become king because he heard the seagull and it caused a terrible yearning in him to go to the sea. Also, never read that his dad died

  • @stevegardner7274
    @stevegardner7274 22 дні тому +10

    That’s easy. His dad is immortal.

  • @shereemcclelland2186
    @shereemcclelland2186 11 днів тому +5

    Legolas “42”….Gimli “43”……Legolas fired another arrow, “43”……..Gimli “he was already dead”…..Legolas “ he was twitching”……Gimli “that’s because he has my axe in his head”
    Legolas contributed so much more than his bow and his knives, which were deadly in his hands, he proved to be Aragorns ‘right hand man’ he is my character favourite, but he got pipped at the post by his father in the Hobbit , Tolkien was a genius, it’s hard to imagine how he came up with these fictional characters and middle earth, then bought to life by another group of geniuses, how lucky are we, first to be able to read the books and then watch it materialise on screen, albeit a little off track here and there. Legolas Greenleaf son of Thranduil, prince of the Woodland Realm👍🇦🇺

    • @FairlyFictional
      @FairlyFictional  11 днів тому +3

      His only mistake was not kneecapping the Uruk who blew up the wall at Helms Deep 😅

  • @trevorelliston1
    @trevorelliston1 24 дні тому +8

    I don’t think Ithilien was barren. It was depopulated but still very wooded.

    • @FairlyFictional
      @FairlyFictional  24 дні тому

      I don’t recall saying it was barren 🤔? Which part are you referring to?

  • @GandaMelgao
    @GandaMelgao 4 дні тому +1

    Beautiful video! Thank you so much. 😊

  • @donaldbadowski6048
    @donaldbadowski6048 24 дні тому +9

    I don't think so. Legoland is never referred to as Prince. And we don't know if he had any brothers ahead of him in line to the throne.

    • @FairlyFictional
      @FairlyFictional  24 дні тому

      A valid hypothesis 😅.

    • @GeraldM_inNC
      @GeraldM_inNC 24 дні тому +2

      I don't recall any references in Tolkien to Leg-O-Lam being the ELDEST son of Thrandruil or his heir. Correct me if I'm wrong. For all we know there were ten brothers in line for the throne ahead of him.

    • @FairlyFictional
      @FairlyFictional  24 дні тому +3

      It wasn’t mentioned. But then we never heard about any siblings either 🤔..

    • @timonsolus
      @timonsolus 22 дні тому +1

      @@GeraldM_inNC: He may have had an elder brother, but equally, his elder brother may have been killed by Orcs, or even by Smaug.

    • @GeraldM_inNC
      @GeraldM_inNC 21 день тому +2

      @timonsolus But he is never called prince or heir.

  • @plumeria66
    @plumeria66 22 години тому +1

    I can’t wait to hear about Thranduil’s story! You make these elves look so beautiful. So very easy on my female eyes! Thank you!

  • @Peter-wc7dg
    @Peter-wc7dg 4 дні тому +1

    It's interesting to look at Legolas's character arc with consideration for the destruction of the ring (including the will to dominate, order and control), and the passing of mastery of the world from Elves to Men.
    The next generation of potential elvish rule humbly helped Men to rebuild Middle-Earth, sharing support, camaraderie, skills and knowledge before following destiny and passing to the West.
    The relationship between Gimli and Legolas is also interesting, and it could have different applications. It could relate again to an opposite effect to the will of the ring, overcoming the desire for domination and control. As you say in this video, it could relate to the setting aside of prejudice on the smallest individual level as granting experiences that would never otherwise be obtained (and no other Dwarf or Elf gained those experiences).
    It might also relate to Gimili achieving what Feanor could not, being pure of heart and thus being rewarded with three strands of Galadriel's hair to be set in a stone, as well as being able to enter Valinor unchanged with the Elves, alongside his friend. Feanor could not enter due to his choices.
    Dwarves were not created by Iluvatar but he did grant them the flame imperishable (souls). Gimli's arc might have an echo of the original Little Mermaid, where she ultimately dissolved into sea foam but through her choices was granted a soul and the ability to enter heaven. Gimili also made choices that led him to enter Valinor, a different kind of heaven from humans.

    • @FairlyFictional
      @FairlyFictional  4 дні тому

      That’s interesting. I am not familiar with the original Little Mermaid story.

    • @Sarafimm2
      @Sarafimm2 2 дні тому

      Just think Gimli was actually able to see Galadriel again ... and could return the hairs leaving behind a keepsake and reminder of the friendship between elves and dwarves.

  • @Drew151Proof
    @Drew151Proof 7 днів тому +1

    Incredible Legolas breakdown

  • @johnathanwalker8395
    @johnathanwalker8395 20 днів тому +9

    My question would be. Why would he want to be stuck as the caretaker of a kingdom so far from his new friends and found lands? But really, his promise to Gimli meant he could never have tied himself to the reign of his father's realm. He had also committed to the rebuilding of Ithilien. Mirkwood and the Woodland realm were of an age now past. Legolas was looking to the future and wanted to help mend the wounds years of conflict, wanton destruction, and depopulation had left on Gondor and Rohan.

  • @TheTimelessVault
    @TheTimelessVault 24 дні тому +2

    Great video, keep up the good work 👍

  • @chrisclark6154
    @chrisclark6154 12 днів тому +1

    Interesting video. Thanks.

  • @MrMountainchris
    @MrMountainchris 6 днів тому

    And they were roommates... 💗

  • @lampertmorton8068
    @lampertmorton8068 25 днів тому

    thank you for sharing love lord of the rings look for to the next one😍

  • @TomMJH
    @TomMJH 18 днів тому +1

    Nice!

  • @justinm8454
    @justinm8454 14 днів тому +1

    where can I find the artwork, I would love for it to be my wallpaper on my computer!

  • @Mr.Paticles
    @Mr.Paticles 14 днів тому +1

    Whoever made this video, should at least realize that elves are immortals. And Legolas becoming king meant only two things, that Tranduil is either killed by his enemies or Legolas himself usurped the Throne.

    • @FairlyFictional
      @FairlyFictional  14 днів тому

      Why Legolas didn’t *want* to be King..

    • @Mr.Paticles
      @Mr.Paticles 11 днів тому

      ​@@FairlyFictional"He never took his place as king"

    • @sonjastarr1364
      @sonjastarr1364 8 днів тому +1

      Elven kings often retire, they don't have to die first!

    • @Mr.Paticles
      @Mr.Paticles 8 днів тому

      @@sonjastarr1364 atleast mention some elven kings from the legendarium if your going to make a statement to prove your point.

  • @richwilson7981
    @richwilson7981 24 дні тому +2

    I think chatgpt created this entire video.

    • @richwilson7981
      @richwilson7981 24 дні тому

      Someone typed in key words.
      The voice, the generated images...

    • @FairlyFictional
      @FairlyFictional  24 дні тому +5

      Someone has no clue. But here’s a cookie 🍪

    • @timonsolus
      @timonsolus 22 дні тому

      @@FairlyFictional: That’s just an AI generated cookie! I want a real one! (goes to the store)

    • @FairlyFictional
      @FairlyFictional  20 днів тому +1

      @@timonsolus just make sure it has chocolate 😂

    • @timonsolus
      @timonsolus 20 днів тому

      @@FairlyFictional : Absolutely! Chocolate cookies are the best cookies

  • @jcalder6746
    @jcalder6746 23 дні тому +1

    I don’t think they were Sindar.

    • @FairlyFictional
      @FairlyFictional  23 дні тому +6

      Legolas was Sindar through his father’s side.

  • @Sullivanin
    @Sullivanin 11 днів тому

    Legolas might not have even been the heir. He might have had a dozen older brothers as far as we know.

    • @FairlyFictional
      @FairlyFictional  11 днів тому

      Possibly. But he was happy to stay in Mirkwood before he went with the fellowship.

    • @LuxVi7
      @LuxVi7 9 днів тому

      Not dozens… elves didn’t have a lot of children.

    • @emkalina
      @emkalina 5 днів тому

      ​@LuxVi7 feanor had like 9, many elves we know of settled on no less that like 3

    • @LuxVi7
      @LuxVi7 4 дні тому

      @@emkalina Sure but what I mean is that it wasn’t common for elves to have many children.
      But oh well… we’ll never know.

    • @benu_bird
      @benu_bird 3 дні тому

      @@emkalina Feanor had 7 sons-that was considered a lot of children for an elf. And he doomed them all with his oath.

  • @markyochoa
    @markyochoa 6 днів тому

    AI voice or real voice?

  • @omaralanis22
    @omaralanis22 14 днів тому

    😢😮

  • @conniegaylord5206
    @conniegaylord5206 15 днів тому

    He couldnt stay knowing he would never have Taurel love.

    • @benu_bird
      @benu_bird 3 дні тому

      That was from the movie the Hobbit. It's not in the books.

    • @conniegaylord5206
      @conniegaylord5206 День тому

      But there was a movie of Lord of the Rings.