@@spencerstewart8 Gotta be. Funny enough, alot of facts are on the defense's side. I'm not sure that this is the guy I would want representing them in my case.
The defense attorney needed to make this powerful punch but instead he is sifting through notes most of the time. Sadly Todd's attorney did him no favors.
The shuffling through papers and reshowing pictures just didn't seem very professional and like it was grasping because he himself couldn't write up intellectual closing arguments.
@@kitkat-dv3gd And a wife that fell on your pitchfork multiple times before you contaminate the scene by pulling it out after she continues her ongoing affair.
@@dustinbasurto7371 still deserves the best defense, how do we know anything she had defensive wounds, yet no DNA taken from under her nails? They thought the lover was a suspect, but not his wife? Husband never left the barn, but the son whose aware of parents problems does. How many lovers did she really have, not saying she deserved anything either. Love triangles don't end well. They kept saying she was going to leave, no proof makes it hearsay yet the lump of a lawyer barely asked any meaningful questions.
@@justicejane2429 the cops never researched anything that had any other focus except Todd. They never tested the rake, never tested her nails, never followed up on the bridal and ring searches for the lover to have hired someone to do it. Did they do more research as to why she has a D&C which is also used in abortion? Did they research the reasons why she could ask about the DNA of a “father”.
They had no true evidence to throw this man into prison or death row for the rest of his life!! His attorneys suck and I hope he can get a fast appeal!!
The defence lawyer is too laid back for a person facing a murder charge. The attorney should stick with slip and fall cases not a criminal case. I think his attorney failed him. I'm not so sure he was proven guilty.
Flossy Turner well it’s just my opinion that’s all, and I’m not asking for people to agree with me . I’m glad I live in England, as I don’t agree with the death penalty which we don’t have, and which seems to be handed out in America so readily.
@@tina5203 Not sure why you brought the DP up because that has nothing to do with what I said.... however it seems to me that you just said because you don't agree with the DP he should be set free. The evidence is overwhelming against him. The law is clear.
Flossy Turner Look I’m not prepared to get into a debate . I just assumed that if some one in America was found guilty of premeditated murder then they usually got the death sentence . And I’m not desperately wanting him to go free either . Just don’t believe the evidence is 100 percent convincing . But this is just my opinion !
I'm sure someone mentioned the length of a football pitch , even so if the father and son were together all the time then when did Todd get the time to do it ,so are they covering for each other ?
Exactly. If I tell my wife to go get a box 150 feet away statistics say it will take her 30 seconds to get to that box pick it up and return back in 30 sec. If I was going to kill my wife it can't be at any time in that 1.5 hours. It has to be less then 30 sec from when she left to get the box. So the question I would ask Tod's son is did you see your dad the first 2 min after your mother left. Because if he did then there is no way Tod could have done it because 2 min is way more then enough time for Amy to get to the pet carrier, pick it up and bring it back. This is very time specific because my wife is going to get to that box in 30 sec and I have to get to her before she gets to the box. Now way! It doesn't work
@@gumsnbums8686 To walk 100 feet statistically takes 20 sec. The distances Amy has to walk is about 200 ft. to get to the pet carrier and that will take 40 seconds. To commit this crime you would have to get to Amy in less then 40 sec after she leaves the hog barn without your son seeing you. He didn't get to use anytime in that 1.5 hours to commit the crime. He would only have less then 40 seconds from the time she left the hog barn to commit the crime. Otherwise she would have got to the carrier and got it down, and even brought it back in less then 2 min from when she left and that carrier isn't even touched. Heaven forbid anyone reenact the crime and look at the timeline. Tod would have had to get to his wife in almost 20 seconds to catch up to her before she got to the carrier and he would have to do it without his son seeking him. Impossible!
Yes they should've taken the jury out to the site!! Would give them better idea! Because hearing the details & seeing the pictures & rough idea the distance between everything & i dont believe he had time! I don't believe he did it anyway!!
So...if you want to grow food as a humble hard-working man in Iowa...maybe consider a different State. In fact....if you're in any red US. Nazi state, consider relocating because...you may end up in a chain gang for the rest of your life...just sayin'....
The thing that worries me most is that they didn’t do the DNA testing of Amy’s fingernail clippings. It could have ruled Todd out, found another person’s DNA or helped to convict him. The detective said “There was only one suspect” and that’s a dangerous path to follow. Rule him in or out by every means possible. Sloppy police work.
They probably did test the nails and they didn’t have Todd’s dna on them so they decided not to use them and act as if they weren’t tested. Just a thought 🤷🏽♀️
Exactly!!!!! Iowa is UNBELIEVABLE! I lived in TX most my life, but I've been in IA for 7yrs now, and I wouldn't believe what goes on here if I didn't see it with my own eyes!!! OMG! It's all about who you know, and asking for a favor! UNREAL!
@@LOLI1079 then they say no DNA at all was recovered and then to say nah we didn't test them looks lazy and a lack of following process, never going to go in your favour
The State did not prove ‘beyond a reasonable doubt’ that he was the killer...IMO....I tend to lean toward someone using the shed to hide out and get out of the weather...but they decided early on he did it....and never looked further....WHAT FATHER SENDS THEIR SON TO DISCOVER THEIR DEAD MOTHER~????
A man who is trying to play it off because he was the one who killed her. If he would have acted as if he discovered her, then they would have said he did it for sure.
@@kpassion7811 and she was impaled on the digging tool at least twice according to autopsy report, once could be a fall but 2 plus times is intentional! Somebody researched DNA testing of a child then she has a D&C! He was angry that she not only had an affair but got pregnant too and it could have not been his child!
Todd is a much better man than me, after the first affair I would have packed her bags and put them on the porch with a note “see ya in court babe, you’re done here.”
Wade Rivers I agree with you. I'm sorry Amy got killed but I wouldn't have been able to put up with her being a cheater either. And once a cheater always a cheater.
3.5 month investigation by the police, including 19 search warrants and countless interviews. TWO doctors with the same opinion. What are you talking about?
I may be incorrect in my assumptions here, but I don't understand why the defense didn't object to the prosecution's speculations on what was being whispered on the 911 call. There were several times i was waiting for the defense to object but he never did
Why hasn't anyone mentioned the fact it's a farm and there's more than one way onto the land? Why does the killer have to already be there or have to come in the main way, you could just park on a road other side of farm and walk across the land, I'm sure most of us have walked across some farm land (especially UK we have a lot of public footpaths thru farmland) I don't get why no one has asked could the killer (if not Todd) have come from the other side of farm, look at Jerry he knows the farm, he would know an alternate route.....
Jerry had a solid alibi. although they did a shitty job at investigating. they put their eyes on him and that was it, done looking. bc she had an affair therefore he had to have done it.
That idiot lawyer not once mentioned,and if they want to come to a fair and honest decision they need to go to that hog barn and try to carry on a conversation. They will have to yell,to be heard
The defense attorney was not doing his best at all. He is a rather laid-back guy. Who on earth recommended this man. It was clear to me watching this from the very beginning, that he will not win this case.
Todd’s expressions are so odd.... you cannot get a read on him at all.... he looks like he’s in a chemistry class listening to a boring lecture and cant wait for the bell to ring so he can go home. I wonder if he even knows this is a murder trial.
Its perfectly plausible - a down and out or nutcase may have been seeking shelter during the night and when Amy entered he/she panicked and lashed out at her.
I just can't get over the fact that investigators didn't even consider it to be an accident. As packed as that shed was, wire wrapped containers?...nails in the wall?...hit her jaw on wired wrapped chemical containers?...I am looking at the pictures of that shed and I just can't believe they didn't do a single bit of crime scene analysis of any kind!!!!!
Speculation? No. Everything she said was already reviewed information in the case. Of course EVERY trial has a prosecutions "theory" as to what happened (because truly ONLY the murderer knows EXACTLY what they did), HOWEVER, the jury evaluates all evidence to draw a reasonable conclusion. Fortunately they got it right on this one!
Totally agree about 911 call if he found her like that why would you presume she was murdered, you would think she must have fell somehow, what else would you expect if you arrived given her previous dizzy state
If you walk up on someone face down with a rake sticking out of their back, please assume they were murdered. How in the world would you assume that was an accident?
How can you say that? The son admitted that his dad was out of his sight for an unspecified period of time. Thats opportunity right there. If you choose that the son is not reliable then you have to throw out all of his testimony and now he has no alibi at all. Did you watch the first part of the trial?
@@awright119021 SON SAID DAD was out of his sight for less than 5 minutes. And that Dad was putting his other boots on, in the office. Wife was a 100 yards away in a second barn
What bothers me is, it's one thing to commmit adultery once, get found out, realize your hubby is crazy, then feel like damn I may end up missing. But to feel like your husband may harm you, have children and STILL cheat?? Huh??
Try putting yourself in her shoes..its called empathy. You're stuck in a relationship where you feel like it's dangerous to leave. You're not happy and he's at least controlling, if not abusive. You're scared, lonely and have no connection with this man. He's restricting your finances so you have no way to support yourself and kids right when you leave. Maybe you just need to feel loved by someone else to gain the self esteem and confidence you need to walk out that door. Or maybe she was hoping this new man would save her. Millions of women, including myself, are stuck in similar situations like this every day. I wouldn't cheat, but I can definitely see why she did. Please don't look down on the women in these situations and instead look down on the men that treat women like this.
Why would she leave her livelihood at the hospital. I believe he was jealous controlling and in trust worthy and needed her in his eye sight at all times. He had an approved friend list for her and went crazy when she was with her sick uncle at the hospital probably thinking she's cheating. The only emotion I see out of this man is when he speaks about his farm he lights up it's the only thing he cares about. He reminds me of my dad. When my mom goes to see her mother says her sister and mom is gonna introduce her to other men because they don't like him. Narcissistic behaviour
Jessica Rannelli Seriously, can you tell me who the hell did it then! It's unbelievable to me that some of you could watch this trial and you know it could only be Todd or Trysten! Todd is guilty. 😡
I didn't think there was 'beyond a reasonable doubt' in this case. I was a bit surprised at the verdict. Serial cheaters create lots of enemies, not just the spouse. Many many ways to get onto farms. If Amy was so scared of him, why did she continue the serial cheating? I am not sure I buy her fears of him. Perhaps she conjured that scenario up in order to aid her in a divorce proceeding. I just didn't get to the 'beyond a reasonable doubt' in this one.
It could've been one of the wives of the two men she had an affair with .or one of the men she had an affair with.but I'm not so sure he was guilty of murder..seems like her son would have heard her scream or something or if he ran out the back end of the hog barn while his son stepped out to.get some water from garden hose then somebody please explain how he timed it just right..she went to the red barn to get the pet carrier,his son left the hog barn to get water and that was when he took off out the back of the hog barn??..no,I don't think so..I believe this man is innocent.
That defense atty needs to go into Real Estate Law or something safe and not life threatening. He actually helped the prosecution w/ his lack objections....a lot of hearsays.
How so? He attacked her from behind. She may not even have had a chance to grab at him. But it certainly could not have hurt to have done it. It should have been done.
@@tauresattauresa7137 the kids,brother,wife,lots ppl had been on that ipad! What his attorney said who would be more likely to look up some of those things than the guilty cheater!
His DNA would almost certainly be under her nails since they live together. It wouldn't have helped the case in any way. The defense surely would've said of course his DNA is there.
I would take a public defender any day rather than this attorney! My gosh I've never seen such an ill prepared attorney in my life 😭. He's practically handing him over LOL 😂. God works in mysterious ways 🙌🙌 🙌🙏.
Omg i have insomnia.this lawyer has put me to sleep. I cant keep my peepers open. Will listen to him before going to bed. Yhat way i will fall asleep for sure.
I’ve been thinking that maybe it was the son. Perhaps that’s why they didn’t do the fingernail clipping DNA test - afraid of what it would show. This is just such a sad case.
@@anniegetchergun yes, it is a sad case. And the thought about the son did it make it even sadder.....I can see the sadness on his face. He just looked like to let himself to be blamed. Just saw his trial verdict, I think he is innocent.
Thinking maybe the son was off doing something, lost track of time. Once everything went south the questions started he felt compelled to narrow it from "never left barn"( original statement) to "left a couple times for a drink of water" (testimony). In obligatory support of his father.
The biggest thing that gives me second thoughts - many do not testify even if they're innocent and for 2 people to stay on track with a story is generally not likely and a dangerous path to take even if you're innocent. One will trip up somewhere in probably most cases or simply recall a small piece differently. If he is guilty, he and his son who is just a kid, did exceptionally well. Thats almost impossible no matter if you rehearsed it unless you're career actors. Ive been in situations where there were fine details and more than one person recalling the event. Discrepancies surface. I dislike circumstancial evidence when more could have be done via investig to get something more concrete in evid. Its not the jurys job to sort out what the POL didn't... and could have.
@@iadesigns The only thing I heard that changed was the time it took him to get a drink. I mean, how would he know the exact time. I kept wondering when they would clarify the distance to the hose (if they did, I didnt hear it). Regardless, unless you're going in the house to get it, then watch a few commercials or something to kill time ... a drink of water is gonna take mere minutes and not enough time for dad to get from the barn to the shed, struggle and kill a person and be back to the barn working. Its a hog barn. Theres water close by. 1 or 2 minutes. I thought it was nonsense trying to pin down time without knowing where he went to get the drink and how far was it from his work area. And it changed but staying in the frame of 1-2 MINUTES. What else did he change ?
Well then it absolutely needs mentioned that MANY times guilty people DO testify. Those are the ones so narcissistic they believe they are the smartest in the room and can fool ANYONE. They also are banking on the theory that the jury will view it the same way YOU just did it. Oh, he must be innocent. Unfortunately, his testimony didn't work so much in his favor either.
Todd's attorney who keeps making comments I'm too old to learn this or that or I don't understand this technology stuff just makes himself sound pathetic and incompetent. He comes off like a feeble, foggy brained senior part of the time.
Guilty. Walking the distance between the two barns is his life, so idk why we are acting like this is not possible for him to slip away and commit this act. Would not be to far fetched to think his son is lying for his father too.
Todd I know you're innocent I hope everything goes well get home razor three kids work on your farm and just let it go get your life back God bless you I'll be praying for you
This is what happens in a small town ... the cops railroad a person to make a conviction. I think this man is a pushover husband. His wife cheats he forgives her. Then she cheats again he asked some questions he accepts the answers and drops it and not only that he apologizes to the guy for asking questions. You know what they say about a woman scorned. They need to do anither trial and question more people.
The son even verified there was no one else on the farm that day. The injuries tell the how. The affair tells the why he did it. The defense has not proven it "could have been someone else" which would be reasonable doubt.
Someone pointed out that the defense should have called in an authority to examine the 911 call where the prosecut. insisted Todd was uttering words wishing her dead. New trial please!
Exactly.. I find it hard to believe that some strange weirdo just came along and happened to be in the red shed when there are cars in the driveway and appears to be people around, at that moment. Unlikely.
Why did he mention the 911 whisper that can’t be proved? He wanted to be sure it was really well established in the jury’s ears? I couldn’t believe he didn’t object when the prosecution first made it up and now he’s repeating it? He’s hard to hear and all over the place. Needs to focus on Todd’s innocence.
He lured her there thein interfered with the crime scene puts the body in his truck just a freaking liar. Look at his body language it just says it all. He also had a poor recolection of the events. You dont forget events in a death and what was going on in your mind at the time. I found a dead body back in the eighties and i can still remember very small details. So in my book he's a liar and should be found guilty
This man is innocent! The timeline just isn't right for him plus there is zero evidence of a struggle The ladyy just passed out and landed. On a rake....it was an accident. I have witnessed people passing out and they fall HARD! This case is an accident.
1. It's a long way from the hog barn to the red shed - commit murder- AND BACK while the son gets a drink of water. 2. We don't know how long from the time she left the hog barn until son got his first drink - and was out of sight of Todd. 3. It might take 5-6 minutes (or less) for Amy to walk to the red shed; because she never made it to the pet carrier, it makes sense that she discovered someone (a transient sleeping & trying not to freeze outside?) already in the shed, was beaten, made her way toward the door, and the person grabbed the rake & stopped her. 4. In order for Todd to have done this, he would've had to beat Amy to the red shed, beat & stab her, BEFORE she could have made it to the pet carrier; because she never made it that far. Trysten testified they continued working when Amy left. So he didn't immediately get a drink & Todd was in hog barn with him. 5. Todd is a responsible businessman who, if he were a murderer, would've killed Amy while they were alone & fed her to the hogs. He wouldn't use a corn rake & send his son to find the body. Common sense, indeed. No way. 6. A fatal flaw of everybody involved in this case is that they ALL say, definitively, that only the family was on the property at the time Amy died. Since the property was not under video surveillance 365/24/7, there is zero evidence to corroborate that at all. 7. Todd is not the only person with motive either. Amy got around & had enemies. Bet on that. 8. This looks like The Shawshank Redemption in real time.
Wow his attorneys act like they are stoned 😂 I absolutely think he is guilty..he is a cold blooded killer with zero emotion but he could of done with a better defence attorney
And the prosecutor was way too unprofessional, she mentioned evidence that she didn't explain in full detail. However, even the defense admits this was a murder, so then who the hell else could've been on that farm in that precise moment??
Vanna Kegley that is where the defense made a mistake. Why agree that it was murder based on one expert’s testimony and findings? Why not hire your own expert, ask other experts on the stand for their analysis. The defense could have went with this being an accident and poke holes in the very weak prosecution’s evidence but chose not too. And even still, I find reasonable doubt, even though the defense did not present well. I am not saying Todd is innocent, but he was not proven guilty beyond reasonable doubt and the defense lost this due to negligence on their part.
Also think about what the word ‘Tryst’ means... the search about DNA... perhaps Trysten thought (if in fact he once he found out about the first affair), perhaps HE thought that he was the product of that first affair. That might make him angry enough to do other searches that the defense and prosecutors have overlooked.
Could Amy have fallen twice on the fork ? And got it out herself first time but fell back on it ? Her husband looks like a good guy who always looked for solutions and talk things out !
Forensics doesn't lie. People do. He was controlling and she was afraid. Now she's dead. I think she was right to tell people she was afraid. He killed her.
I truly believe he didn’t get a fair trial. How can he be a murder. Yes he was mad. But it was so far. Of course he is mad come on now .... 🤦🏽♀️ I hope he gets a fair re trial one day .
Defense Attorney does not seem too passionate in his closing argument. He says everything with the sound of paper's being shuffled, like when you are in high school doing your first big speech in front of the class. He says everything so monotone and without any sense of urgency or fighting for this man's life. I think he knew it was a lost cause so he threw some thoughts together but wow did he miss the boat.
i think, somebody homeless was sleeping in this little room and the woman catched/surprised him and he killed her in panic! you cannot kill somebody when the son is always with you or so near!
Oh my! The prosecution had me not wanting to listen to the lies she was making up. Apparently this man’s plan is to repeat those lies and then put the jury to sleep.
farmer seems to be innocent. lawyer spent too much time agreeing with the state's case. he will get a new trial probably since the state circumstantial evidence was shaky, unless the farmer could teleport from the barn to the shed
The beginning of this presentation had me asking what side he was on. She was murdered by her lover not Todd. He probably convinced her that Todd would kill her thinking she wouldn’t tell and then providing the start of a frame up against Todd.
I agree & Todd looked sick to his stomach at that moment his attorney said that it wasn’t an accident ... I feel it was an accident more than he’s guilty .. the searches have me puzzled .. What’s your opinion on that ? I truly don’t see guilt though exhaustion from life..
Where's the damn ENERGY with the defense attorney? My goodness! Your client's life is on the line!!
He's very laboured i think the approach is to bore the jury and hopefully forget what they are doing in a court room in the first place
@@spencerstewart8 Gotta be. Funny enough, alot of facts are on the defense's side. I'm not sure that this is the guy I would want representing them in my case.
Most boring defence ever
Time to retire.
@@spencerstewart8 yea until the prosecution goes in and commands them to listen. That's why cops shout lol I was thinking the same thing tho
His attorney is so bad, that he will have a bonefide appeal for ineffectual defense.
Very weak defense. Lawyer is definitely not a Philadelphia lawyer. Not a plus to speak in monatone.
There was no defense....he had nothing to defend.
The defense attorney needed to make this powerful punch but instead he is sifting through notes most of the time. Sadly Todd's attorney did him no favors.
The shuffling through papers and reshowing pictures just didn't seem very professional and like it was grasping because he himself couldn't write up intellectual closing arguments.
He seems to be doing the best he can with what he has which is nothing.
At this point in the trial the evidence and his testimony is in...to object would have had to happen previously.
@@justicejane2429 I agree with you...but many people think he was innocent--- they blame his Attorneys as well.
I realize it is kinda randomly asking but does anyone know a good site to stream new movies online ?
This guy was burying him, not helping the defendant 🤤
Then you weren't watching the same video!?
@@justicejane2429 let's hope you don't find yourself in this position, with a crappy lawyer.
@@kitkat-dv3gd And a wife that fell on your pitchfork multiple times before you contaminate the scene by pulling it out after she continues her ongoing affair.
@@dustinbasurto7371 still deserves the best defense, how do we know anything she had defensive wounds, yet no DNA taken from under her nails? They thought the lover was a suspect, but not his wife? Husband never left the barn, but the son whose aware of parents problems does. How many lovers did she really have, not saying she deserved anything either. Love triangles don't end well. They kept saying she was going to leave, no proof makes it hearsay yet the lump of a lawyer barely asked any meaningful questions.
@@justicejane2429 the cops never researched anything that had any other focus except Todd. They never tested the rake, never tested her nails, never followed up on the bridal and ring searches for the lover to have hired someone to do it. Did they do more research as to why she has a D&C which is also used in abortion? Did they research the reasons why she could ask about the DNA of a “father”.
They had no true evidence to throw this man into prison or death row for the rest of his life!! His attorneys suck and I hope he can get a fast appeal!!
So who else did it?
Todd's lawyers were no help to him. I hope he gets an appeal soon. Hate to say it a d hope it's not true but I feel Triztan did it.
@@lindalee9628 nah, I can't see the son killing his mother.
Me too
The defence lawyer is too laid back for a person facing a murder charge. The attorney should stick with slip and fall cases not a criminal case. I think his attorney failed him. I'm not so sure he was proven guilty.
Me either Beverly.
Don't blame the lawyer - the evidence is damning!
Her hands are brused front and back and cut defensive wound, her lips are busted this wasn't an accident
@@niomifoster8963 Ok but please note that the wives of the men that had affairs with Amy could have hired someone to kill her....
@@marcosmarin8930 so he's just lurking in the bush for a perfect opportunity. I don't think so
Not enough evidence to convict him, and I think he’s not guilty. Just my opinion !
The injuries are enough to convict him,
Flossy Turner well it’s just my opinion that’s all, and I’m not asking for people to agree with me . I’m glad I live in England, as I don’t agree with the death penalty which we don’t have, and which seems to be handed out in America so readily.
@@tina5203 Not sure why you brought the DP up because that has nothing to do with what I said.... however it seems to me that you just said because you don't agree with the DP he should be set free. The evidence is overwhelming against him. The law is clear.
Flossy Turner Look I’m not prepared to get into a debate . I just assumed that if some one in America was found guilty of premeditated murder then they usually got the death sentence . And I’m not desperately wanting him to go free either . Just don’t believe the evidence is 100 percent convincing . But this is just my opinion !
@@tina5203 You assumed wrong. If you do not know our laws it is best to just keep quiet.
If I were in the jury, I would want to visit the site and get a better idea how far Todd would have had to walk.
I'm sure someone mentioned the length of a football pitch , even so if the father and son were together all the time then when did Todd get the time to do it ,so are they covering for each other ?
Exactly. If I tell my wife to go get a box 150 feet away statistics say it will take her 30 seconds to get to that box pick it up and return back in 30 sec.
If I was going to kill my wife it can't be at any time in that 1.5 hours. It has to be less then 30 sec from when she left to get the box.
So the question I would ask Tod's son is did you see your dad the first 2 min after your mother left. Because if he did then there is no way Tod could have done it because 2 min is way more then enough time for Amy to get to the pet carrier, pick it up and bring it back.
This is very time specific because my wife is going to get to that box in 30 sec and I have to get to her before she gets to the box. Now way!
It doesn't work
@@gumsnbums8686 To walk 100 feet statistically takes 20 sec. The distances Amy has to walk is about 200 ft. to get to the pet carrier and that will take 40 seconds. To commit this crime you would have to get to Amy in less then 40 sec after she leaves the hog barn without your son seeing you.
He didn't get to use anytime in that 1.5 hours to commit the crime. He would only have less then 40 seconds from the time she left the hog barn to commit the crime. Otherwise she would have got to the carrier and got it down, and even brought it back in less then 2 min from when she left and that carrier isn't even touched.
Heaven forbid anyone reenact the crime and look at the timeline. Tod would have had to get to his wife in almost 20 seconds to catch up to her before she got to the carrier and he would have to do it without his son seeking him. Impossible!
Yes they should've taken the jury out to the site!! Would give them better idea! Because hearing the details & seeing the pictures & rough idea the distance between everything & i dont believe he had time! I don't believe he did it anyway!!
So...if you want to grow food as a humble hard-working man in Iowa...maybe consider a different State. In fact....if you're in any red US. Nazi state, consider relocating because...you may end up in a chain gang for the rest of your life...just sayin'....
This is the weakest representative for the defendant I have ever listened to. I hope there is a re trial with a stronger legal representative.
The thing that worries me most is that they didn’t do the DNA testing of Amy’s fingernail clippings. It could have ruled Todd out, found another person’s DNA or helped to convict him. The detective said “There was only one suspect” and that’s a dangerous path to follow. Rule him in or out by every means possible. Sloppy police work.
I HAVE A ? WHY THEY DON'T RUN THE DNA FINGERNAILS ON HER ??
Exactly. Very shoddy work
They probably did test the nails and they didn’t have Todd’s dna on them so they decided not to use them and act as if they weren’t tested. Just a thought 🤷🏽♀️
Exactly!!!!! Iowa is UNBELIEVABLE! I lived in TX most my life, but I've been in IA for 7yrs now, and I wouldn't believe what goes on here if I didn't see it with my own eyes!!! OMG! It's all about who you know, and asking for a favor! UNREAL!
@@LOLI1079 then they say no DNA at all was recovered and then to say nah we didn't test them looks lazy and a lack of following process, never going to go in your favour
The State did not prove ‘beyond a reasonable doubt’ that he was the killer...IMO....I tend to lean toward someone using the shed to hide out and get out of the weather...but they decided early on he did it....and never looked further....WHAT FATHER SENDS THEIR SON TO DISCOVER THEIR DEAD MOTHER~????
Logical well taken points Ice Queen! Totally agree w/your last ? as well!
A man who is trying to play it off because he was the one who killed her. If he would have acted as if he discovered her, then they would have said he did it for sure.
Ice Queen that is something I can’t get past!
Plenty of killers have let their children find their mother.
@@kpassion7811 and she was impaled on the digging tool at least twice according to autopsy report, once could be a fall but 2 plus times is intentional! Somebody researched DNA testing of a child then she has a D&C! He was angry that she not only had an affair but got pregnant too and it could have not been his child!
I know one thing I would hate like crazy to pay this attorney to defend me! Maybe he's got the starting of dementia?
If Mr. Mullis hasn't already paid him,I wouldn't pay him at all.
I hope that he can get a retrial for inadequate defense !!!
Todd is a much better man than me, after the first affair I would have packed her bags and put them on the porch with a note “see ya in court babe, you’re done here.”
He didn't want to lose his farm in a divorce. To hear him testify he was a perfect husband, can't imagine why she strayed 🤔 snicker*
Citrus Bloom He shouldn’t have lost anything because SHE committed adultery.
@@pryorbishop2957 : That's unfortunately not how it works. In Todd's mind it was cheaper to fork her....🍴
Wade Rivers I agree with you. I'm sorry Amy got killed but I wouldn't have been able to put up with her being a cheater either. And once a cheater always a cheater.
I still say Todd is innocent. Lawyers only out for $$$$. Didn't do anything for Todd.
My god this defence lawyer is seriously the worst lawyer he could have had
Todd's lawyers did a lousy job for Todd. Beginning to think maybe the lawyers were with Amy at sometime. God forbid if that info got out.
The State should never have brought charges on one dr’s suspicion/opinion. No thorough police work and no experts?
3.5 month investigation by the police, including 19 search warrants and countless interviews. TWO doctors with the same opinion. What are you talking about?
I may be incorrect in my assumptions here, but I don't understand why the defense didn't object to the prosecution's speculations on what was being whispered on the 911 call. There were several times i was waiting for the defense to object but he never did
I don't hear him saying anything bad!!!
Why hasn't anyone mentioned the fact it's a farm and there's more than one way onto the land? Why does the killer have to already be there or have to come in the main way, you could just park on a road other side of farm and walk across the land, I'm sure most of us have walked across some farm land (especially UK we have a lot of public footpaths thru farmland) I don't get why no one has asked could the killer (if not Todd) have come from the other side of farm, look at Jerry he knows the farm, he would know an alternate route.....
Jerry's wife could have hired someone. Not saying she did but would certainly have motive
Jerry had a solid alibi. although they did a shitty job at investigating. they put their eyes on him and that was it, done looking. bc she had an affair therefore he had to have done it.
Yes Jeremy, his wife, or someone else could've done it or hired someone to
I honestly believe it was accidental or maybe the other man's wife did it or the man.
That idiot lawyer not once mentioned,and if they want to come to a fair and honest decision they need to go to that hog barn and try to carry on a conversation. They will have to yell,to be heard
The defense attorney was not doing his best at all. He is a rather laid-back guy. Who on earth recommended this man. It was clear to me watching this from the very beginning, that he will not win this case.
Agree 💯
Omg this defense attorney is the worst. No passion, nothing! I’d rather watch paint dry!
Pathetic lawyer. Whoever recommended him to Todd has something against him.
Todd is not far behind him. Very unemotional, low-key, no charisma when charisma is needed, blank-ish, slow, controlled, boring, etc...
Todd’s expressions are so odd.... you cannot get a read on him at all.... he looks like he’s in a chemistry class listening to a boring lecture and cant wait for the bell to ring so he can go home. I wonder if he even knows this is a murder trial.
He has no emotion which is making him come off as cold, uncaring. Unfortunately it is working against him.
Todd could have used a lawyer
She surprised someone in that shed and they attacked her.
Nope that actually happened to my aunt
🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️
Its perfectly plausible - a down and out or nutcase may have been seeking shelter during the night and when Amy entered he/she panicked and lashed out at her.
@@sarahf325 or someone maybe out to sabotage todd & his family farms was surprised by her in the barn.
OMG defense screwed up big time. He said theres not only reasonable doubt, there NO DOUBT. He was supposed to say there's tons of doubt
I just can't get over the fact that investigators didn't even consider it to be an accident. As packed as that shed was, wire wrapped containers?...nails in the wall?...hit her jaw on wired wrapped chemical containers?...I am looking at the pictures of that shed and I just can't believe they didn't do a single bit of crime scene analysis of any kind!!!!!
There wasn't much of a scene to look at, he had moved her body.
Four tines, six holes. Not an accident.
That's why you are not a forensic pathologist obviously.
Um sure they did. Did you watch the entire case? I did
The prosecutor sure appeared to be setting him up. To much speculation from the prosecutor. Innocent
Speculation? No. Everything she said was already reviewed information in the case. Of course EVERY trial has a prosecutions "theory" as to what happened (because truly ONLY the murderer knows EXACTLY what they did), HOWEVER, the jury evaluates all evidence to draw a reasonable conclusion. Fortunately they got it right on this one!
He's guilty
APPEAL ineffective counsel
Totally agree about 911 call if he found her like that why would you presume she was murdered, you would think she must have fell somehow, what else would you expect if you arrived given her previous dizzy state
If you walk up on someone face down with a rake sticking out of their back, please assume they were murdered. How in the world would you assume that was an accident?
Not guilty....even with horrible defense attys it is obvious Todd had no opportunity.
How can you say that? The son admitted that his dad was out of his sight for an unspecified period of time. Thats opportunity right there. If you choose that the son is not reliable then you have to throw out all of his testimony and now he has no alibi at all. Did you watch the first part of the trial?
@@awright119021 SON SAID DAD was out of his sight for less than 5 minutes. And that Dad was putting his other boots on, in the office.
Wife was a 100 yards away in a second barn
@@awright119021 Also , detective made many careless mistakes. Which made innocent things sound horrible. ... like times on eye pad.
Im not sure hes guilty
Francesca Gibbons How long for a verdict?
What bothers me is, it's one thing to commmit adultery once, get found out, realize your hubby is crazy, then feel like damn I may end up missing. But to feel like your husband may harm you, have children and STILL cheat?? Huh??
I would demand an Appeal, he didn’t do it.
Try putting yourself in her shoes..its called empathy. You're stuck in a relationship where you feel like it's dangerous to leave. You're not happy and he's at least controlling, if not abusive. You're scared, lonely and have no connection with this man. He's restricting your finances so you have no way to support yourself and kids right when you leave. Maybe you just need to feel loved by someone else to gain the self esteem and confidence you need to walk out that door. Or maybe she was hoping this new man would save her. Millions of women, including myself, are stuck in similar situations like this every day. I wouldn't cheat, but I can definitely see why she did. Please don't look down on the women in these situations and instead look down on the men that treat women like this.
Why would she leave her livelihood at the hospital. I believe he was jealous controlling and in trust worthy and needed her in his eye sight at all times. He had an approved friend list for her and went crazy when she was with her sick uncle at the hospital probably thinking she's cheating. The only emotion I see out of this man is when he speaks about his farm he lights up it's the only thing he cares about. He reminds me of my dad. When my mom goes to see her mother says her sister and mom is gonna introduce her to other men because they don't like him. Narcissistic behaviour
@@niomifoster8963 did you think he killed her though?? I for sure agree on the narc thing but it seems more like a freak accident to me
@@Channiej93 he is guilty as charged cameras were not working until after the accident and too many searches about cheating wife on the ipad
I think they have to give a not guilty. I feel like even the judge is leaning that way.
Thanks to the incapable prosecutor.
She is the worst I ever saw.
She was smiling during much of her closing arguments...
@@ErikS- What's wrong with smiling?
@@ErikS- Seems to me the prosecutor is stronger in delivery. The defense could have and should have picked this case apart.
@@ErikS- i think that prosecutor is wicked!! Doesn't mean she is a good attorney either!
he had no blood on him
She's objecting a lot, pretty desperate...
This woman is a lunatick I think she does protest too much. If the jurors don't she this her way than she will scare them to death.
So sad. Love of material things, loss of respect for marriage, each other and life. Jesus take the wheel.
Mmmm I’m thinking not guilty
I think mistrial
Jessica Rannelli Seriously, can you tell me who the hell did it then! It's unbelievable to me that some of you could watch this trial and you know it could only be Todd or Trysten! Todd is guilty. 😡
Anne H well that’s my opinion and your entitled to yours
Jessica Rannelli I absolutely agree we are all entitled to our opinion.
Would love to know what evidence never made it into court🤔🧐 Think there's more to this story.
Attorney is about exciting as my biology teacher talking about frog dissection.. Im trying to hang in there and listen to him!!!
True dat, but It looks like Mr. as exciting as watching grass grow is going to get his client off. Pretty good trade off for corn rake killer.
Put speed up to 1.5 and it's about normal. ;)
flutterby how do I do that
Gothic Mom What a ridiculous comment to make !🙄
@@tina5203 maybe, but you read it and commented....so
I didn't think there was 'beyond a reasonable doubt' in this case. I was a bit surprised at the verdict. Serial cheaters create lots of enemies, not just the spouse. Many many ways to get onto farms. If Amy was so scared of him, why did she continue the serial cheating? I am not sure I buy her fears of him. Perhaps she conjured that scenario up in order to aid her in a divorce proceeding. I just didn't get to the 'beyond a reasonable doubt' in this one.
It could've been one of the wives of the two men she had an affair with .or one of the men she had an affair with.but I'm not so sure he was guilty of murder..seems like her son would have heard her scream or something or if he ran out the back end of the hog barn while his son stepped out to.get some water from garden hose then somebody please explain how he timed it just right..she went to the red barn to get the pet carrier,his son left the hog barn to get water and that was when he took off out the back of the hog barn??..no,I don't think so..I believe this man is innocent.
I wonder if Jeff's wife had an alibi
@@sharondease3551 Agree. The previous affairs (wives and husbands) had a motive.
I do not think that they did it, but hired someone to do it.
Watching all the videos of this case I do not believe the State proved their case that this guy was the murder
Usually it is the defense attorney putting on a show being dramatic. This guy is like the voice of reason and makes the prosecutor look like a nut.
@Minderellah I am not sure if he is guilty either.... but who else could it be?
@@sueannnatter5295the lovers wife probably has a grudge could have hired a hit man. But too late to investigate that
Yet the jurors still found him guilty. Terrible. I really do pray he gets a new trial!!
@@csea4672 I can't believe they found him guilty!?! I pray he gets a new trial.
That defense atty needs to go into Real Estate Law or something safe and not life threatening. He actually helped the prosecution w/ his lack objections....a lot of hearsays.
There's just no evidence, I can't understand how you can convict without evidence.
The defence attorney got him convicted.
too old to learn powepoint...hire someone old boy a mans life is on the line here
He may also believe that PowerPoint presentations put jurors to sleep!
Right? Surely an intern in his office could have put a PP presentation together for a capital murder case!
This is why he couldn't present in the first place. There are many lawyers, but few are actually bright.
“That is a Hail Mary by the state folks”. Hear Hear. Not quilty.
Surely those nail clippings could have actually proved it was Todd if she had his dna under her nails...? State flopped that one
And the searches on the ipad, were they done by a stranger too?
How so? He attacked her from behind. She may not even have had a chance to grab at him. But it certainly could not have hurt to have done it. It should have been done.
@@tauresattauresa7137 the kids,brother,wife,lots ppl had been on that ipad! What his attorney said who would be more likely to look up some of those things than the guilty cheater!
His DNA would almost certainly be under her nails since they live together. It wouldn't have helped the case in any way. The defense surely would've said of course his DNA is there.
defense could've done so much more
I don't understand why the defense attorney read from his notes on the closing arguments because he basically reinforced the negative points.
What defense? I could have defended him better. I never finished college.
I would take a public defender any day rather than this attorney! My gosh I've never seen such an ill prepared attorney in my life 😭. He's practically handing him over LOL 😂. God works in mysterious ways 🙌🙌 🙌🙏.
Omg this defence attorney is so weak imo
Omg i have insomnia.this lawyer has put me to sleep. I cant keep my peepers open. Will listen to him before going to bed. Yhat way i will fall asleep for sure.
The son could be covering up the amount of time he was not with his dad! Or the son did it and dad is covering for son. One of the two did it.
I’ve been thinking that maybe it was the son. Perhaps that’s why they didn’t do the fingernail clipping DNA test - afraid of what it would show. This is just such a sad case.
I was thinking the son did it
@@anniegetchergun yes, it is a sad case. And the thought about the son did it make it even sadder.....I can see the sadness on his face. He just looked like to let himself to be blamed. Just saw his trial verdict, I think he is innocent.
Thinking maybe the son was off doing something, lost track of time. Once everything went south the questions started he felt compelled to narrow it from "never left barn"( original statement) to "left a couple times for a drink of water" (testimony). In obligatory support of his father.
The biggest thing that gives me second thoughts - many do not testify even if they're innocent and for 2 people to stay on track with a story is generally not likely and a dangerous path to take even if you're innocent. One will trip up somewhere in probably most cases or simply recall a small piece differently. If he is guilty, he and his son who is just a kid, did exceptionally well. Thats almost impossible no matter if you rehearsed it unless you're career actors. Ive been in situations where there were fine details and more than one person recalling the event. Discrepancies surface. I dislike circumstancial evidence when more could have be done via investig to get something more concrete in evid. Its not the jurys job to sort out what the POL didn't... and could have.
His son changed his story slightly several times
@@iadesigns The only thing I heard that changed was the time it took him to get a drink. I mean, how would he know the exact time. I kept wondering when they would clarify the distance to the hose (if they did, I didnt hear it). Regardless, unless you're going in the house to get it, then watch a few commercials or something to kill time ... a drink of water is gonna take mere minutes and not enough time for dad to get from the barn to the shed, struggle and kill a person and be back to the barn working. Its a hog barn. Theres water close by. 1 or 2 minutes. I thought it was nonsense trying to pin down time without knowing where he went to get the drink and how far was it from his work area. And it changed but staying in the frame of 1-2 MINUTES. What else did he change ?
Well then it absolutely needs mentioned that MANY times guilty people DO testify. Those are the ones so narcissistic they believe they are the smartest in the room and can fool ANYONE. They also are banking on the theory that the jury will view it the same way YOU just did it. Oh, he must be innocent. Unfortunately, his testimony didn't work so much in his favor either.
Todd's attorney who keeps making comments I'm too old to learn this or that or I don't understand this technology stuff just makes himself sound pathetic and incompetent. He comes off like a feeble, foggy brained senior part of the time.
OMG this guy is bad, he reminds me of Paul Newman's character in The Verdict, low key, washed up lawyer who doesn't give a crap about any clients.
Guilty. Walking the distance between the two barns is his life, so idk why we are acting like this is not possible for him to slip away and commit this act. Would not be to far fetched to think his son is lying for his father too.
Todd could have used a much stronger defense team. Did his attorney know the fingernails had not been tested? Put the brakes on right there.
EXACTLY!!!
Todd I know you're innocent I hope everything goes well get home razor three kids work on your farm and just let it go get your life back God bless you I'll be praying for you
RE TRIAL PLEASE
I have reasonable doubt
I hope they appealed this!!
“ I’m too old to learn PowerPoint!” Says the defence lawyer😳
This defence attorney HAS TO BE THE WORSTEST EVER!!!! Absolutely shocking in this day and age! 🤬
This is what happens in a small town ... the cops railroad a person to make a conviction. I think this man is a pushover husband. His wife cheats he forgives her. Then she cheats again he asked some questions he accepts the answers and drops it and not only that he apologizes to the guy for asking questions. You know what they say about a woman scorned. They need to do anither trial and question more people.
It was the ghost killer! 😂🤣 Why on earth would a man whose wife cheated TWICE ready to leave ... be a suspect? 😂🤣😂
I would have never found him guilty!
The son even verified there was no one else on the farm that day. The injuries tell the how. The affair tells the why he did it. The defense has not proven it "could have been someone else" which would be reasonable doubt.
Farms are vast. Can't be 'for sure' that nobody else was on that farm. Serial cheating makes plenty of enemies.
Someone pointed out that the defense should have called in an authority to examine the 911 call where the prosecut. insisted Todd
was uttering words wishing her dead. New trial please!
No one else was on the farm to their knowledge. That doesn't mean that someone hadn't entered the property unknowingly.
Defense doesn’t have the burden of proof.
If he didnt kill her who did
Exactly.. I find it hard to believe that some strange weirdo just came along and happened to be in the red shed when there are cars in the driveway and appears to be people around, at that moment. Unlikely.
The comment above you says Jerry’s wife.
Why did he mention the 911 whisper that can’t be proved? He wanted to be sure it was really well established in the jury’s ears? I couldn’t believe he didn’t object when the prosecution first made it up and now he’s repeating it? He’s hard to hear and all over the place. Needs to focus on Todd’s innocence.
wow his lawyer sent him down the river i hope he didnt pay alot for him
He lured her there thein interfered with the crime scene puts the body in his truck just a freaking liar. Look at his body language it just says it all. He also had a poor recolection of the events. You dont forget events in a death and what was going on in your mind at the time. I found a dead body back in the eighties and i can still remember very small details. So in my book he's a liar and should be found guilty
Thank you!!
His body language screams not guilty to me. What are you seeing?
I was 9 or 10 when a neighbor dropped dead in front of me! I remember every detail of b4 and after
@@chocolatefrenzieya guilty! Wheres the emotion?. Totally detached
@@chocolatefrenzieya flat effect doesn't mean not guilty
This man is innocent! The timeline just isn't right for him plus there is zero evidence of a struggle
The ladyy just passed out and landed. On a rake....it was an accident. I have witnessed people passing out and they fall HARD! This case is an accident.
I thought that too she could have fell on it and gotten up a d fell again.
1. It's a long way from the hog barn to the red shed - commit murder- AND BACK while the son gets a drink of water.
2. We don't know how long from the time she left the hog barn until son got his first drink - and was out of sight of Todd.
3. It might take 5-6 minutes (or less) for Amy to walk to the red shed; because she never made it to the pet carrier, it makes sense that she discovered someone (a transient sleeping & trying not to freeze outside?) already in the shed, was beaten, made her way toward the door, and the person grabbed the rake & stopped her.
4. In order for Todd to have done this, he would've had to beat Amy to the red shed, beat & stab her, BEFORE she could have made it to the pet carrier; because she never made it that far. Trysten testified they continued working when Amy left. So he didn't immediately get a drink & Todd was in hog barn with him.
5. Todd is a responsible businessman who, if he were a murderer, would've killed Amy while they were alone & fed her to the hogs. He wouldn't use a corn rake & send his son to find the body. Common sense, indeed. No way.
6. A fatal flaw of everybody involved in this case is that they ALL say, definitively, that only the family was on the property at the time Amy died. Since the property was not under video surveillance 365/24/7, there is zero evidence to corroborate that at all.
7. Todd is not the only person with motive either. Amy got around & had enemies. Bet on that.
8. This looks like The Shawshank Redemption in real time.
Wow his attorneys act like they are stoned 😂 I absolutely think he is guilty..he is a cold blooded killer with zero emotion but he could of done with a better defence attorney
And the prosecutor was way too unprofessional, she mentioned evidence that she didn't explain in full detail. However, even the defense admits this was a murder, so then who the hell else could've been on that farm in that precise moment??
Vanna Kegley that is where the defense made a mistake. Why agree that it was murder based on one expert’s testimony and findings? Why not hire your own expert, ask other experts on the stand for their analysis. The defense could have went with this being an accident and poke holes in the very weak prosecution’s evidence but chose not too. And even still, I find reasonable doubt, even though the defense did not present well. I am not saying Todd is innocent, but he was not proven guilty beyond reasonable doubt and the defense lost this due to negligence on their part.
’m not convinced that he did this. In fact I don’t believe one bit of this. He is not guilty. Just my opinion.
Hmmmmmmm
Does anybody else feel like me that this has some familiarity with Mr Todd Kendhammer?????
Bobb Naef Yes!
Worst defense lawyer ever!
Worst lawyering ever
So disjointed . Didn't flow at all.
Todd has the world’s worst defense attorney in the world!
Also think about what the word ‘Tryst’ means... the search about DNA... perhaps Trysten thought (if in fact he once he found out about the first affair), perhaps HE thought that he was the product of that first affair. That might make him angry enough to do other searches that the defense and prosecutors have overlooked.
That could be possible. Facing that can drive many people mad !!
Terrible defense close shhheeeeeshhhhhhhh that should have been a SLAM DUNK
Could Amy have fallen twice on the fork ? And got it out herself first time but fell back on it ? Her husband looks like a good guy who always looked for solutions and talk things out !
Forensics doesn't lie. People do. He was controlling and she was afraid. Now she's dead. I think she was right to tell people she was afraid. He killed her.
@@marythomas1198 What makes you think being afraid makes you stop an affair?
@@misslori66 I dunno. The fear of being discovered AGAIN ? I wonder will you be screaming murder if the roles are switched?
Todd is innocent !!
I like the Defense Attorney. He reminds me a little bit of Jimmy Stewart. The co-council sometimes looks like he is the one on trial. lol
Lol!!!
I truly believe he didn’t get a fair trial. How can he be a murder. Yes he was mad. But it was so far. Of course he is mad come on now ....
🤦🏽♀️ I hope he gets a fair re trial one day .
This should have never ever went to trial. Such a horrible in justice to this poor family 👪
A rather lacklustre defence if you ask me , it’s like you get the feeling that he believes Todd did it but has to go through the motions anyway.
Guilty! Without any reasonable doubt. People have been convicted on way less than we have in this case.
He is the only one to have motive , he didn’t want to lose half of everything.
Janet P So true, he did it!!!
Defense Attorney does not seem too passionate in his closing argument. He says everything with the sound of paper's being shuffled, like when you are in high school doing your first big speech in front of the class. He says everything so monotone and without any sense of urgency or fighting for this man's life. I think he knew it was a lost cause so he threw some thoughts together but wow did he miss the boat.
This lawyer is horrible
This reminds me of the OJ trial someone else did it!
Boy, missy sure got upset about what Tristan told the deputy
i think, somebody homeless was sleeping in this little room and the woman catched/surprised him and he killed her in panic! you cannot kill somebody when the son is always with you or so near!
He probably wasn't at that time. We're all just going by what they tell us.
horrible defense, omg get this man a new trial
Oh my! The prosecution had me not wanting to listen to the lies she was making up. Apparently this man’s plan is to repeat those lies and then put the jury to sleep.
hes innocent
farmer seems to be innocent. lawyer spent too much time agreeing with the state's case. he will get a new trial probably since the state circumstantial evidence was shaky, unless the farmer could teleport from the barn to the shed
Lol!!!
Perry Mason he aint.
Worst closing argument ever
The defence should not have ruled out the accident theory because it is not beyond the realm of possibility that Amy fell on the fork more than once.
The beginning of this presentation had me asking what side he was on. She was murdered by her lover not Todd. He probably convinced her that Todd would kill her thinking she wouldn’t tell and then providing the start of a frame up against Todd.
That defence bloke sat with the defendant looks so miserable "turn that frown upside down" pmsl .........
Why would his attorney purposely and completely rule out the possibility of it being an accident?
I agree & Todd looked sick to his stomach at that moment his attorney said that it wasn’t an accident ... I feel it was an accident more than he’s guilty .. the searches have me puzzled ..
What’s your opinion on that ?
I truly don’t see guilt though exhaustion from life..