What If Uncharted 4 On PS4 Pro Ran At 1080p/60fps?
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- Опубліковано 16 вер 2024
- Watch Uncharted 4 as it would run if it could hit 60fps at 1080p resolution. We've captured the game in the unlockable slow motion mode, then sped up the footage for full frame-rate. A hint at what might have been on PlayStation 4 Pro?
Many thanks to Kanuuna for giving us the heads-up and showing us this technique. Check out his original video here: • Uncharted 4 - Madagasc...
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I want 60fps not 4K!
YES! PS4 PRO should of been the actual PS4 console at launch!! :)
***** Worth purchasing anyway if want or not ok?
Fake 4k you must say
+gtone339 Well, history for Sony has proven otherwise. There is a reason why they try to keep the pricepoint at 400. PS3 at 600 didn't sell well.
If you say you would buy a console for 600, fine, your choice. But because of PS3 launch price, Sony knows a lot of people don't buy at that price. And I think they want to be able to sell it to a lot of people, not just a few.
ZenCavalera7 Its just like buying other expensive products that we like to have like iphones & Galaxy S7's, though difference is pricing, usability & so on.
Yeah its great to see Sony developed a high-powered version of its launch PS4, and they have known to address hardware issues in the past like on the PS3 having Yellow Light of Death (YLOD), and now the current "PRO" version of the PS4 should definitely resolve typical issues like stable fps, resolution etc.
Hope this mid-gen upgrade address a lot of issues from its original PS4 version.
It's sad that they're focusing on 4k/30 when 1080/60 would be much better
That's because they focus on what will sell. Sadly, in terms of marketing, it sounds a lot better to offer 4k than 1080p60fps. As a PC user, playing games at under 60 fps is something I don't like, because I'm so used to 60 that it gives me a headache when I play for more than 30 minutes. I had that issue when re-visiting the first Dark Souls. I played it on my Xbox 360 at 30fps and it was fine, because I was used to seeing 30fps all the time, but when I bought it on PC, it felt strange and slightly laggy when I played it. With my current setup, I'd rather play games at 1440p60 than go for 4k30fps, even though it would look better at 4k.
Might also have something to do with the crappy cpu thats in both the PS4 and the PRO version, not to mention that the 1080p60fps goal was what the original PS4 was being advertised as, and we all know how that went, even worse for Xbox One.
damazig the ps4 pro will do 4k the way the xbone did 1080p. Upscaled and 30fps, except in some first-party exclusives. The Scorpio might do 4k the way the ps4 did 1080p. Unstable 30fps and always cutting edges like shadow resolutions, draw distances and the amount of light sources for example.
Agreed
+Charles-Antoine Martel-Roy nope!
they are really stupid for thinking that 4k in more important than 60 fps
if everyone would have 4k screen it could've been, but because hardly anyone has it 60 fps is more important
I don't think you understood the video (or if you even watched it). They can't double the framerate because the CPU can't handle it. It would need a bigger upgrade.
Not just that but hardly any media devices support 4K yet. Like my Virgin Media Tivo box. So its not worth the extra expense.
and the pro cant even do 4k
They don't think that 4K is more important. They think that running a game with upscaled 4K-res. is cheaper than doubling framerate.
1080 @ 60 With HDR IS ALL I WANT
HDR is a gimmick for 4K TVs, technically full hd TVs can do HDR
+Jamie Robert you are so wrong it is embarrassing.... Standard tvs cannot go no where near as bright..... therefore cannot create hdr....
NickTheGeek that's not the point, full hd TVs should be able to do HDR if it was implemented in newer 1080p TVs
Then go pc
+Jamie Robert it's not a gimmick at all, it looks amazing
Why are consoles focusing on resolution over the frame. All we want is 60fps on 1440p or 1080p....
I really wanted the Pro to just be the 60 fps Playstation.
it can run 60 fps and upscale ed 4k
nope, wont happen
the ps4 pro is an upscaled 4k only 30 fps and pretty sure there will be drops!!! no way to hit 60fps unless low to medium textures !! which is they will do that to have best online experience
Same here, man. Same here.
at some point in time Sony gonna give the green light to make pro only games witch will run at 60 1080p for now they just don't want people to think they leaving the regular ps4 behind I say about two years after the release at that time the original ps4 would be more than 5 years old not to mention the pro will be cheaper and devs would be formiler with the system
Unfortunately 1080/60 doesn't sell 4K TVs...
They won`t sell also because it is waste of money. also the VR headset is far more interesting than upped res.
yes
My exact thoughts
They blatantly are. I wouldn't be surprised if Sony HQ had a list of buzzwords lined up for the next 50 years of shite they release.
no where else matters but here.
60FPS should be the golden standard on PS4 Pro in 1080p mode if you ask me, especially in games like UC, GoW, Driveclub, Horizon, KZ, etc., which already look superb and don't need any more extra details.
60 fps in a minimum, consoles can have that, we on pc have moved on to 144fps.
yup it should but it wont since sony cheaped out on cpu, its equivalent to freaking 40$ pc cpu, superslow low power shit again, same like in og ps4 from 2013 just little overclocked =/
Dont know about that, playing on a rog swift monitor, and if I don't get an other titan I wont be able to hit 120fps in 1440p with max settings...
I could lower the resolution, but damn going down from 1440p to 1080p, sitting that close is simply awful and pixilated tbh.
hell yeah! if they can accomplish this then it would give the ps4 pro sufficient reason to exist.
***** I fully agree, but bare in mind the games will be designed for original PS4 in the first place (and they already look beautiful), so instead of complicating things for the devs and wasting their time it would be so much simpler to just ramp up the FPS to 60FPS, which will make a huge difference, instead of figuring out to what use those extra resources, which in the end of the day will make the games on PS Pro look almost identical to original PS4 in 1080p.
PS4 pro is like Rick Harrison, best it can do is 30.
HAHAORIGINALHAHAH
30/60 best review ever
at some point in time Sony gonna give the green light for devs to make pro only games witch will run at 60 1080p witch gonna cause people to bitch about having to buy a pro and they still won't even have 4k TVs LMAO
I had to Google Rick Harrison.
+YSNReview Why?
These console manufacturers should focus on frame rate and not resolution. Give me a box capable of 1080p at 120 fps and they can haz all my monies.
Agreed, aim for 1440p @60 before you even consider 4k. Currently aiming for 4k with that shit hardware is like trying to teach a baby how to drive a car before it can even walk.
Nice analogy.
I will say this. Before the announcement of Project Scorpio, all anyone was talking about was how Xbox couldn't handle 1080p. So Microsoft specs out the "we heard you" console and R&Ds a 4K Xbox. Now everyone is complaining about 4K and just want solid frame rates.
Personally I'm fine with standard hd resolutions. 4K is nice, but I find after a while i tends to not even notice.
Hi could you explain the difference between pixels e.g 4k and fps e.g 60fps what enhances the gameplay best ?
To put it in simple terms without getting too specific, resolution is like how many pixels can be displayed on screen at once, frame rate refers to how often those pixels change per second. No matter how good the picture looks if the framrate drops too low, you may have a host of issues with that beautiful 4K resolution. For further reading, Google is your friend.
So 4K at 30 Fps is not visually great or is 1080p 60Fps visually better ?
I doubt the PS4Pro can pull of a stable 60 fps in this game. But if ANYONE could do it. Then it would be Naughty Dog.
Why didn't they?? Could it be that the PS4 really isn't capable of doing 1080p 60fps solid frame rate locked??!
it isnt possibly because of the cpu. Did you watch the video?
It should. Just how the current generation consoles can with good developers.
The hardware within the ps4 pro makes it POSSIBLE (not 100% guaranteed) to run certain games at 1080p 60 fps. What the ps4 isn't able to pull is 4k native 60fps.
Before one of you comments "it will upscale 1080p to 4k." It is still not considered 4k.
the pro can easily do 60fps.
it's easy work for it
Excellent video. Really gave me a better idea of what to expect. I was hoping for 1080 60fps conversions of my favorite PS4 games, but now that I know that the CPU is barely being upgraded, I can set my sights a little lower.
Also, the gameplay footage you have recorded is fantastic. Whoever's playing is doing a great job.
Today playing the game for the first time at native 4k with 140 fps on my rtx 4090 🙂
Its a shame the CPU didnt get a bigger upgrade...
opgrade? whats that?
A typo!
yeah... both pro and scorp will have bottleneck cpu
CPU is not nearly as important on a console as it is on a PC. You probably couldn't even play anything on a AMD cpu at 1.8Ghz
Well whoever thinks the Scorpio will match an i7 they're retards
Customers: "We want 1080p/60fps!"
Naughty Dog: "What did you say? 1440p/30fps? Got it."
lol they wont listen us
This is why This game sucks
@@Sweatedsiren895 that's why this was the game of year bcoz it sucks claps to 👏👏👏
fucking incredible! if the ps4pro can't accomplish this then what's the point?
it can accomplish that, its just that sony has their objectives in the wrong place. instead of letting people enjoy 1080p with 60fps they decided that somehow 4k with 10-20 fps would be more desirable.
Why you say that? True, "4k" was the keyword being thrown around at that Sony meet but Naughty Dog, the developers actually responsible for this game's performance, got to know that a 60fps, 1080p can provide a serious upgrade to their game. Like Sony says, its up to the developer to utilize the hardware, My thing is, if they find out that they cant do it, again, what;s the point of a ps4 pro?
Earl W. then in that case its just to fool people into spending more money
Jude Ceant If they were losing the console war I would agree, but they not. If the previous games can be upgraded in this way then I say, good move to Sony and even better for us gamers. If not, then we have a problem.
Earl W. they can but I heard that they will be charging developers to do this meaning most wont.
What if the Xbone wasnt a 720p console, What if Nintendo stopped sucking...
What if those weren't true?
Say what you want about Xbox One but I've seen so much improvement than PS4 since launch. They now even have backwards compatibility. Meanwhile Sony are reselling PS2 games on PS4...
Microsoft this gen deserve so much more respect than Sony.
+Paranormal Pete oh shut up
Backwards compatibility? You mean digital versions of X360 games, don't ya. Because the PS4 also does that, except streamed so that old stale games with no server functionality don't bog up your HDD.
And it's funny how Xbox only make backwards compatibility on games that nobody actually plays. Because Army of Two: The Devil's Cartel is SUCH a classic.
I mean, just try to put an X360 copy of a game in your Xbone. It won't run. It doesn't read X360 discs.
what if harambe was alive
i never asked for this
You would never have heard of him and this dumb meme wouldn't exist.
unfunny meme is unfunny
PS 4 HARAMBE EDITION
No one cares. Reported.
sony changed playstation neo to playstation pro.....microsoft should change xbox scorpio to xbox harambe gorrilla edition if they want to truely compete with sony
Dude, what?
+ImPDK haha wtf
They didn't change jackshit. Neo was a code name. A code name for a double cheese burger.
I would laugh if the Scorpio is called Supreme so its Pro vs Supreme
I am xbox one user and I've preordered a pro and when the Scorpio comes out I'll be upgrading from the pro
Should have had a toggle for the single player: 1080p/30 or 720p/60.
Multiplayer can do 900p @60 ..
I'm still waiting for a 900p/60 single player update.
Not with this cpu. Evven 720 will not help.
Why not?
Chiriac Puiu I dont get why sony can't use an actual CPU. The PS3 CPU at its times was spectacular
Can't make Pro versions run at 60 fps cause they need an excuse to sell remasters next generation.
haha...spot on.
they dont sell the same game twice dumbass the same disc works on both consoles
what he means is that they wont update the game for ps4 and pro to 60 fps so that they can sell a remaster for ps5
Jude Ceant I guess but they wont remaster uncharted 4 for the next generation as most of the remasters were done for the people that were switching from xbox to ps and never played such games
***** exactly they are a business and they understand there is a market for these remasters as there are some players that moved from xbox to ps hence a niche market therefore they supply
"I'm not confident that they can pull it off"
Last year
"The uncharted collection might be multiple discs because I don't know how they can put it all in one disc"
I hope this game and last of us 2 get ps5 60 FPS patches. I started this game but never finished it and id probably go back and complete it if they gave a 60 FPS mode
Oh boy do I have some good news for you...
Both The Last of Us 2 and Uncharted 4/Uncharted The Lost Legacy are available on PS5 at 60fps! And they feel AMAZING to play now, I won't ever go back to 30fps
words can't explain how good and beautiful this game was!
masterpiece
If there is a case for all games to have a PC version, it is fucking this.
Word
Naughty Dog's games is the sole reason I own a Playstation. Best developer.
everyone is thinking that Scorpio is going to be able to run native 4k hitting 60 fps in AAA titles that my friends is never going to happen no matter how hard a developer work for the optimization yeah it will be able to hit native 4k30 on some well optimized games and 4k60fps on indie titles but for 4k60 Scorpio,s hardware is simply not enough one example is that a gtx titan xp which is 1200$ only gpu that is having hard time running at 4k60fps and Scorpio will be like 500$-600$ for full system.I think that Scorpio will not be as bad as ps4pro but not as good as titan xp no i am not bashing xbox or supporting playstation i am just clearing the misconception and telling all of you friends not to get too much hyped for it like many of you did to no man,s sky and ps4neo or pro!
i spent good 20 minutes writing the comment(dat typing speed dou)!
i don,t own a console i am a pc gamer and a gamer who wants to help the people who can,t simply afford to buy a pc!
+Muhammad Wissam USE COMMAS AND PERIODS
You spent so long on it, you even had to skip all the punctuation.
Grammar nazi
Great video....The newer 4K TV's all have pretty good frame interpolation (smoothing) so for games like Uncharted you can get that 60fps look that is very playable without too much input lag now. Not good for shooters but they are usually 60fps anyways.
This game looks incredible. Especially at 6:35, that real-time cut-scene looks almost CG-like with that DoF effect in the background, the subsurface scattering on Nate's skin and hair etc. And it was achieved on a 1.84 TF machine... I wonder what Naughty Dog would be able to achieve with a 4.2 TF Pro if they built a game specifically for that hardware from ground up...
it's a shame that this might not be possible with the ps4 pro, it would be the only reason I'd get one 1080p@60 with all games
Uncharted 4 features 0p and 0fps on 4K PC
Geert Matthys
runs fine on my PC
*****
2016 called they want their 4K back
Geert Matthys
smh..
1.bought it at 280 (Haggling Genius)
2.it's not a 10 Hour game ignorant
3.google it before you type that shit in the comments
4.none of your business if it's 500 dollar, welfare gamer
5.gaming is a luxury. deal with it..
6.mods are for PC not consoles
7.stay mad
8.i love Yennefer (read the books)
9.none of your f**kin' business
10. GOG is love, GOG is life #DRMFree #FuckSteam
pc can play 4k natively .
+buzzooo21 gtx 1080 cant handle a stable 60fps(ultra). but it sure can if u (lower foliage level and detail etc..) and we're talking native 4k
I got a PS4 just to play uncharted 4, and coming from a 120hz monitor to a 30fps game was really hard, sometimes the framerate was making the game way harder for me when aiming. I loved the game tho, as much as i loved every single one of the previous games. I really hope the PS4 Pro give us the oportunity to choose between 1080p/60fps and 4k.
what if fallout 4 had mods?
What if everyone doesn`t want to play Fallout 4? What if everyone stops complaining about titles that are better with mouse and keyboard from the start? I`d like to play Doom "properly" but won`t bitch because i chose console for gaming and pc for other stuff.
It has.
Delet this for PS4 Fanboy's sake.
+Wolde Munster We should stop making excuses for multi-billion dollar corporations.
The Sims 2 > Failout 4
This channel is amazing with this content. I hope 1080p 60FPS picks-up some traction.
just wait for the 4k native 60fps ps5 remastered verison.
+Serdar Berk Demirhan Everything is impossible but the price is high.
Coming soon to the PS5.5S Pro Pro
PS5 Pro will be twice as thick as the PS4 pro.
..in 2035!
2020: Sony announces the end of current gen consoles.
2021: E3 Sony announces PS5Alpha. Expected pricetag: 400$
2022: PS5Alpha sold over 25 million units thus far!
2024: Sony announces PS5Beta. All you have to do is buy external GPU that you can plug in easily to your PS5Alpha. 4k60fps is right at your doorstep merely for another 200$!
2026: Sony announces PS5.0. The very first 4k60FPS VR console on the market. All you need is a firmware update that'll overclock both GPU and CPU on your device. Warning! To assure safe usage additional PSU is required. Pricetag: 100$
This is how you kill console market. You water it down to the PC level. You force the player to buy new hardware and to download new drivers every f*cking day.
The shooting in this game finally looks like someone with a mouse and it would play exactly like that when it comes to PC and it’s a joy to watch the shootouts like this
As much as I love Uncharted 4 and how it looks, it's really ruined by 30 fps.
Someone definitely should up all the cutscenes in 60fps this looks so damn smooth and beautiful to see on this game
Fanboys be like: "I don't even notice the difference between 30 and 60 fps." or "60 fps is overrated anyway."
Hannibal0098 I ended up moving to PC and a glorious 144hz monitor. HUGE DIFFERENCE.
Going back to 30 FPS on PS4 Pro is soo nauseating and sluggish.
@@MxCP11 yup, I noticed that as well. I can do 60, but 30 is just horrible. I don't know how I used it for so many years
God damn it. Running games at 60fps was literally the only compelling thing about the ps4 pro.
What if Uncharted 4 ran at 144 fps?
Jeez...
it'd be on Pc if it ran at 144fps
+Barack Osama nah it is not running on PC but if Sony wouldn't be little kids then it would easily run on 1080/60
plz go read and learn more about PC
because clearly you don't know what youre talking about
famixrap yea at sub 30 fps at 720p through a streaming rental service. And only the first 3
Harry T. it'll be really stupid.It's not first person shooter.I see arkham asylum about 80 or above fps and i was laughing because it was very disgusting.I thought he drunk a lot of ☕
To all Sony and PS4 pro devs: THIS is what we want! There should always be either a 4K/30fps or 1080/60fps option!
right. let's sort this right now. ps4 pro cannot do native 4k
You obviously haven't watched the original DF ps4pro reveal trailer have you?
The Elder Scrolls Online and The Last of Us Remastered will have something to say about that.
Xander..agreed
pc gamer
only upscaled 1080p to 4k !!! not even real 4k and the ps4 pro is a joke search all over the internet every site is saying that aswell !! though im a ps4 gamer aswell
their is 2 native 4k games confirmed.
Reminds me of the technique people did to play 120fps videos on youtube. You recorded gameplay footage at 120fps, then slowed to half speed in sony vegas and rendered again to 60fps slowmo video and uploaded to youtube.
Then, people with 120hz screens could play it at double speed with the html5 player option and watch it at 120fps.
Actually, if you can play Uncharted at 1/4 speed with the slomo feature (dont have the game so I don't know), you could do that. Capture at 1/4 speed slowmo mode, render at 1/2 speed 60fps, and then the people with 120 screen could again play it at double speed for 120hz footage! It would be awesome, somebody should do it.
Maybe this dream can finally come true with the ps5
A lot of the games I Play and plan to get are ALREADY 60fps on PS4. Star Wars BattleFront, Battlefield 4, Battlefield 1, Uncharted 4 Multiplayer. TitanFall 2 PlanetSide 2 (sometimes lol). All those games but the last one run at 900p. On PS4 Pro Sony mandates that Every Single game on the new System has to run at a Native Full HD 1080p Resolution. To finally Play Battlefield 1 or even TitanFall 2 at Full HD with Ultra settings on a Console is the reason I'm getting the PS4 Pro Day One. My PC friends Play their games at Ultra settings on their high end rigs that cost easily $1500 plus. For 4K even more. On Nov 10th I'm getting that for a fraction of the price.
Man I really want a PS5 upgrade for this game
You got it 😄
FPS was never a problem for me in any 30fps game If you have a decent tv with some sort of "Motion Flow" mode and enough Hz it's very easy to crank it up to 60 or higher. Hope that helps
Thats true but that also creates imput lag.
ks22 I agree but some games work better then others. I found myself mostly using it only in single player games, GTA 5 is an exception because you can really adjust "dead zone" or speed acceleration and make it feel like a true 60fps on PS4/XB1. Most of popular shooter are running 60 frames anyway so I don't even bother. I actually completed Uncharted 4 with "motion flow" on medium and gameplay did not look worse if not better than this video all tho I did run in to same problem with the truck
Boost Mode on PS5 should be able to do this.
I really hope so but this time I'm asking for more, it should support dynamic 4k 60 not 1080 60 these are next generation hardware after all
PC mode 144fps at native 4k with t& the rtx 4090 🙂
The level of professionalism here is refreshing.
The PS4 Pro CPU can't run this at 60fps...
I didn't even notice it wasn't 60fps. Most games I don't even notice unless I have a side-by-side comparison. The game looks drop-dead amazing as it is for a console game.
Great stuff. This is currently the only console title that I would buy. I just cant justify buying a console for one game though.
Yep, I am waiting for OG PS4 to drop down to $199 to get it and play this game.
Though it may not be your style of game, bloodborne is an amazing experience. I'm a PC player and while the 30fps lock was a bit jarring, the game is good enough to push past that. I would be incredibly happy if the ever ported it to PC. Phenomenal game.
It will, once Bayonetta gets ported to PC as well
Games like Last of us and Uncharted are the types of games my wife likes to watch me play. I play fps games usually and she could care less so I always keep an eye out for good, short, story driven games I can play with my wife.
1080p/60fps over 4K/30fps any day. Now that we have the power to handle the former, LET'S ACTUALLY DO IT. I have waited way too long for 1080p/60fps on consoles! Imagine if the PS4 got a port or Sonic Generations! I'd love for that game to be at 60fps on a console.
1080p 60fps is better than 4K
Today we got 144 fps and 4k with the Rtx 4090 😉
the human eye can't see past 24 FPS
xd good one
and 900p
How original (sarcasm)
false the average fps the human eye can detect is dependent on the individual the same way we are told human hearing cuts at 20.000khz but the fact that 60 fps looks vastly smoother than 30fps which is according to some 6fps overkill of the so called 24fps. I think we can all agree that humans can most definitely detect more than 24fps.
Digitalfoundry can u make a video regarding all the pc games setttings with GPU , cpu , ram , storage scaling>>>???
it usually depends on particular games, some got really crazy resource heavy ultra options that taks ur pc very hard with small improvement in visuals(hairworks in witcher3, msaa in deus ex).
Storage is simply loading times, cheap and small SSD solves that problem completely(like 250GB samsung 850evo )
Ram- at least 8GB but if u wanna be futureproofed for next 3-4 years get 16GB of 3000MHz DDR4
Cpu- here it depends if u want console alike framerate(then some cheap i3 or old i5 will be more than enough) or u prefer smooth 60fps or even higher- then get i5 6600k and oc that baby using custom cpu cooler(hyper evo 212 for 30$ is great for that)
Gpu- it strongly depends what games and at what resolution u want to play, if its e-sports like dota/lol then any 100-120$ gpu will be plenty- 750ti,950,960 or rx 460 from amd.
If u wanna game @ 1080p console or higher graphic settings in new tripple A tittles go for rx 470/rx 480 or gtx 1060, just make sure u buy non-reference version, those got custom coolers which means they are more quiet and cooler.
The more gpu VRAM u got the better quality textures u can choose, so optimal is 6/8GB.
About very specific game settings and its effect on performance its great to read here, in nvidia guides for specific game, link for ass creed unity here www.geforce.com/whats-new/guides/assassins-creed-unity-graphics-and-performance-guide just as example, u can find there many more.
So this is how consoles get 60 fps: with video editing.
Would rather they patch Bloodborne to 60, it's a much better game
Hardly comparable though....
That would be amazing, 30 fps is pretty low for a game like bloodborne
Didn't the retards over at Fromsoft say "Action games play better at 30fps" or some shit?
CrimsonColossus yeah they did
CPU bottle neck= no 60 fps
You guys have to remember, when the PS4 was being developed, an 8-Core APU with an integrated desktop GPU was cutting-edge technology. These consoles are three years old now, 5 if you count development time. Look how far our hardware has advanced in that time? Games are getting higher and higher quality with each release, and each new GPU release is leaps and bounds ahead of the previous. These consoles were left in the dust of heavy technological development, and people are calling them weak and pathetic because of it.
That footage looks crystal clear... Even on an iPad
The lighting effects make it pop out so good people always focus too much on resolution and framerTe but lighting is just as important imo
But what about GPGPU on PS4 Pro? Just delegate some tasks to GPU and here you have extra CPU resources.
That already existed on the PS4's GPU. It's not implemented on the Hardware, but on the API and the Engine. The PS4 Pro might be more powerful GPU-wise, but it still has the same crappy CPU with a slightly increased clock speed. This means the load on the CPU is already fairly low compared to what could put on a recent i5. Decreasing the load on the CPU to increase the one on the GPU isn't going to help much when all the load is almost already on the GPU.
Tricky but potentially good.
i was thinking about AMD HSA aswell. The more GPU can be utilized to do some CPU tasks. Could this potentially allow 1080/60?
I hope it will. The bottleneck can be with data transfer and memory management becomes a big problem in this case. GPGPU can do big amount of work but then programming itself becomes very complicated. But guys from Naughty Dog are very talented! No doubt they would do their best.
HSA/hUMA would be more memory/latency efficient when it comes to GPGPU operations, it's turns out the OG PS4 also has GCN1.2 Delta Color Compression to save bandwidth(~20%) according to developer SIE.
forum.beyond3d.com/threads/ps4-pro-official-specifications-codename-neo.59621/page-10.
I'm sitting on a 980ti, 16gb ddr4 and a 6700k and I still choose to run at 1080p 60 frames. Maybe if I had a gsnyc monitor I would go for 1440p but !really! maxing out games at 1080p and never being allowed to drop a frame this sort of hardware is needed to cover all games across the board and yet this still fulls short on certain games
Go for a 1070, cheaper, same performance and 8gb of faster vram
I own this set up :) Had the Ti since launch. So buying the 1070 would be pointless. Its running at 1500mhz too so it actually only has a couple of frames in it either way
Now why would buying a 1070 with the same performance be logical if you already own a working 980ti?
Yeah no reason to go from a 980ti to a 1070 or even a 1080....I would wait for the 1080ti.
Why on Earth are you not using any DSR factors? You're wasting 40%-90% of your GPU's potential power and losing out on a huge increase in image quality and anti-aliasing.
There are almost zero amount of games where you need to go below 2x DSR with a 980Ti, most you can run with 3x-4x DSR at high/ultra settings and stable 60fps.
I love how the game looks sped-up, not just because it's a clever illusion of 60 FPS, but Drake aims and fires so quickly that he looks like he just a did a line of cocaine
...it would be better than 4k/30fps
You guys are so in depth it's insane!
Why did the PS4 Pro even come out? It's still so fucking weak.
It's stronger than the majority of PCs out there according to Steam Hardware survey. Be thankful your shit games won't be held back anymore.
Your the type of guy who would spend $2,000 on a pc to play dota 2 on medium settings.
I'm guessing it's quite a bit cheaper to boost GPU performance over CPU since they more than doubled the GPU but only increased the CPU by 31%.
ps4 pro Gta v 1080p 60fps ??
no its not, gta 4 is more taxing on cpu than 5
Explain worm...
the physics in gta 4, its more advanced than gta 5's, all the down from the advanced car physics (downgraded on gta 5 to accommodate the huge open world)
to the rag doll physics....
i remember when gta 4 use to do a number on my core i3 ;-;
but gta 5 and my core i3 are cool with each other.
gta 5 is more gpu heavy :P
+famixrap who cares, why would you even need to play it at those high settings?
lol I love how jon and richard ribs everyone about the "how you doing thing?" lol.
ps4 fan turd will never see 1080p 60fps
they rather 4k 20fps it seems lol
ps4 fans: what is 60 fps?
The Jokers Totem so does pc
so does Nintendo
so does cell phones
so does xbox maybe
The Jokers Totem not all their exclusives
You know there are more 108060 on ps4 vs xb1 right - i could say xb1 fans: what is 1080p30??
seetube5 no sir. Xbox fans: what is 900p 60 fps?
well i hope the ps5 will do the job of delivering 60fps uncharted 4 experience
ps4 pro overcloking hahahaha 😂😂
Yep, stupid idea from the start. I`ll be keeping it at stock speed.
Oh please...
I have my PS4 under the bed, dustbunnies go cannibal if exposed to airfield noises enough. Remember to rotate the console regularly to hoover the remains all around
Best comment so far LMAO!
I always found it puzzling that Uncharted Nathan Drake Collection ran all 3 games at 1080p 60fps and then chose to lock it to 30fps on Uncharted 4; the differences are noticeable and it would've been more logical to lock the HD games to 30fps.
That because Nathan Drake Collection was a remastered on three PS3 games, while Uncharted 4 is a new game.
I'm aware of that, but from a mechanics/consistency point of view your presented with 3 numerical games running at the same frame rate and then the 4th runs at half of those frames (I know they were aiming for 60fps originally); regardless of how stunning the game is (and it is), it's a noticeable difference.
Console players now have to upgrade for a new console in the same "generation" to play the new games at good fps, smh...
Uh isn't the PC EXACTLY the same don't u upgrade to get games at better graphics/fps every couple years
uncharted 4 runs on PC at native 8K 100fps loooooooooooooooool
Not quite. The cool thing on PC is that a person can play on a rig built a few years ago and still run some of the latest games. Of course they would have to turn down settings in order to keep the frame rate high. For example, I'm playing through Dragon's Dogma again on PC after getting it on sale on Steam. Fun game. I'm running it on a SurfaceBook (a tablet that's easily throttled due to heat) at 720p/50-60fps with high settings. Yes, I make use of air conditioned environments or a fan because it does get hot without either. When I played it on PS3, Dragon's Dogma was the equivalent of running on PC at 800x600/25/30fps with low settings. But that's just the point.
You can't tailor your experience like that on console. If Uncharted was a PC game then people with a capable spec can run the game at 1080p/60, 2K/60 or 4K/60...if they have the spec. PC Bullies will build a system that would run it at 1080p/120 or 720p/200. No joke. If a rig is old you might have to run it at 800x600 but you could cheat and run it with medium or high settings and still get good frame rate. No need to upgrade every year. On consoles, we're stuck with what the developer dictates and if we don't like it, we can suck it. No flexibility there. But the cost for the flexibility is why consoles are still viable. The average gamer wants no part of the premium of playing at the highest level on PC. Despite tales to the contrary, no one is building a kick ass gaming rig for $400. If anyone tells you that they either stole some gear or they're lying. Think about it, how is that even possible when a good GPU alone could cost $300 to $400?
yeah but console players used to laugh about pc upgrade and said console won't need to.
who slap themselves in the face now?
stephen5213 good point. Remember, Sony said PS4 Pro is supposed to convince console gamers to not go to pc. But the irony is consoles are duplicating the worse parts of pc gaming without any of the benefits. Constant patches, broken releases and big ass game installs but no mods, no 60fps as standard, no ability to tweak settings, No superior control options as standard.
See, the thing is with the consoles is that their videocard is capable of running games rather well, but it's the CPU that keeps them from running at 60 fps. Just like with high end PCs, having an extremely good videocard won't matter after a while when you are playing at 1080p . The bottleneck shifts from GPU to CPU. In the case of the PS3 Pro, the CPU is basically a faster version of the Jaguar core in the PS4. It won't be enough to get games running at 60 fps, but the graphics processor is capable of outputting at better resolutions.
That being said, hopefully the small increase in speed for the CPU is enough to get this game running at 1080p/60fps, but I'm not getting my hopes up. I've finished the entire Uncharted Nathan Drake Collection on PS4 and I loved it. It was 1080p/60fps and it was great. The only reason I haven't picked up Uncharted 4 is because it runs at 30 fps.
No this is not possible. Do you not understand CPU bottlenecks? The CPU is only a 30% boost, and with any game that makes good use of both the GPU and CPU, a 30% boost CPU is not going to allow a 100% boost in frame rate, plain and simple. Like practically every other game, Uncharted 4 will be rendered at the checkerboard-4K, with the same frame rate, and probably no graphical improvements at all, due to the level of detail that already goes into a Naughty Dog being unlikely to be changeable. If there are any graphical improvements, it may be a minor adjustment to draw distance, or maybe an improvement to shadows but those are all you're likely to see.
+Andy Gilleand Looks like someone didn't watch the video before commenting :3
Well I did, but I couldn't turn the audio on right now. I didn't think there was commentary :P
did you actually watch the video?
Gameplay itself can also be framerate tuned, since a 60fps game has twice the responsiveness and information of a 30fps one. It's why headshots are so easy in the 60fps Uncharted Collection vs the 30fps originals.
What if digital foundry were relevant?
Yeah, but do you like pancakes you little shit?
+Turd Furguson huh...
Well said; I was "projecting what I wanted out of my PS4" in hoping for 60fps from my games rather than 4K. Not being a GPU expert myself & assuming it's power could easily render 60fps, it was a bit disappointing to learn that they didn't upgrade the stifling CPU further in order to achieve this. That being said, does it have to be 60fps, couldn't they just try to shoot for 40 or 50fps? I would rather that smooth gameplay instead of checkerboard 4K, though it does look really, really good.
This is old, but the reason as well is the game was developed with a standard 5400 RPM HDD in the PS4 Pro. Theres no doubt that if it was an SSD it can handle 60FPS & 1440P at least. It’s twice as powerful as a standard PS4. But I would assume bottle necking and heat issues are actually to blame.
Some people are saying "Give us 1080p 60FPS"
You know... if sony does that the console price will be higher and people will see that they ran away from PCs price to end up at the same price
Yeah now this is what I wanted to see from the Pro. I really think Sony should have prioritised 60fps over 4K with the Pro. Hopefully we'll see a focus on 60fps from the Scorpio.
Question for you guys: we are very VERY early in the pro development cycle, but when we get to games 6 months maybe 1 year out; i.e. Death Stranding and others, doesn't make sense the devs would have more people working on pro kit then downscaling to what ps4 basic can handle for that release? This being said, seems like for awhile it is just going to be how much time and manpower devs have to put into old or games currently in deep dev cycles
Seeing every frame of animation at 60fps is just fucking beautiful.
The climbing at 60fps looks majestic. Shame.
That awkward moment when you're trying to make a case for a new PS4 but you awaken PC master race instead.
I love how they talk more freely now :3
I've seen UA-camrs do this. Slow the video down by half and telling you to play the video on 2x speed, giving off the illusion of 60 fps.
To be fair, this is not exactly how the game would look if it ran at 60fps. For one thing, the motion blur would not be nearly as overwhelming as it is in this footage. People have been using this for montages for a while, and while a cool effect it's not necessarily an accurate representation of the game running at a higher frame-rate.
I can guarantee you that Uncharted 4 Remastered will be made for the PS5 and it will be like this. A few touch ups like improved shadows and the such will be done of course.
More developers should do it like Nioh does it and let players choose if they want more perfomance over better visuals or vice versa.
Really makes me sad, naughty dog knows that 60fps is important & Sony is holding them back from their full potential
That's cool. I'm in the boat that is much more interested in games that can keep 1080p, and do more with that (so, in this case, make Uncharted 4 60fps) compared to making a game simply run at a higher resolution. I'd also rather have third party games run at smoother frame rates, and higher settings similar to what a PC's max settings bring. When it comes to frame rate, 30fps doesn't bother me; I just dislike inconsistent frame rates, where it's supposed to be locked at 30fps, but goes down to 25 or below, and then back up often. As of right now, 1080p is fine.
Eh, I'm really just hoping that a Bioshock: The Collection face off comes on today... Soon. I want to see which version is better between the One and PS4 version, or if they're the same, before I go out to buy it.
Have you tried Megui to do this?, because you get the same effect - but the audio is not all messed up.
I would like DF to get in touch with Naughty Dog and see what's up with that. This could be really interesting for sure.
man this looks crazy in 60fps
Console developers do not care about frame rates for most games. The more power you give them the more power they use(4k, detail,FX, lighting, textures). 60fps means you are not using all the power. frame dips under 60 means you are using all the power in some instances.
Another wasted generation... Now the best console players can expect is to fool themselves with upscaled games. Yeah, quite lame.
Scorpio will do native 4K
with only 6 teraflops? that would be interesting to see, but I don't think so, maybe it will have a better upscaling though, PS4 pro is filling 2x1080, so scorpio maybe 3x1080?, 4k is 4x1080.
OG PS4 1.8 teraflops
PS4 Pro 4.3 teraflops
Scorpio 6 teraflops
All these people complaining about upscaling, framerate, etc... and I'm sitting here just enjoying games for what they are. Yes, we can expect a bare minimum performance to make a game playable at least. But I am still of the opinion that Uncharted 4 is still the best looking and best playing game I've ever played on any platform. In fact, looking at the sped-up slo-mo footage from above, I'm kind of glad that the core game DOES only run at 30fps. That 60fps makes the game look too artificial to my eyes.
Its all a matter of preference. And if you prefer something else, so be it, but it doesn't mean that the whole generation is a "waste"
RyoHazuki224 60fps looks artificial? does this happen to you with real life things as well? because the more frames, the more natural it looks, this is not real 60fps, it's faked. That's why it's not perfect.
For a $299 console.. I wouldn't say it is a waste! a $300 PC can't pull Forza 6 at 1080p 60fps, or can it?
The PS4 Pro seems to run games (that were previously 1080p 30fps on base PS4) at 1080p ~45fps if given the option of an unlocked frame rate. It seems the developers didn't and still don't want to spend the money further optimizing their games for what will likely be not a significant payback.
Maybe if they had an option either 1080p 60fps or 4k 30fps it would sell more. Not even adjustable texture details or extra stuff like that. We can leave that for pc. 30fps isn't okay. That's just 7 frames away from being choppy. I like the idea of 4k but it's not necessary.
I think PS4pro is gonna have options to play games at either 4K at 30fps, or 1080p at 60fps, but that all depends on if developers want to add patches to allow certain games, such as Shadow of Mordor or Abzu, to run at higher framerates. Without a doubt, new games like Battlefield 1, which already runs at 60, will be able to run steadier than it would on a normal PS4.