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  • @matton36
    @matton36 Місяць тому +637

    EV's in car parks under apartments is the real danger.

    • @HotelProductsDirect
      @HotelProductsDirect Місяць тому +36

      absolutely

    • @rumpoh8039
      @rumpoh8039 Місяць тому +3

      BEING SLIPSHOD AND HOODWINKED IS BAD TOO AO

    • @onastick2411
      @onastick2411 Місяць тому

      It's only a matter of time, before there's a disaster with great loss of life. Like plastering buildings with inflammable material that then burns out the building, Grenville Tower. More lives will be lost in the pursuit of these insane doctrines. But to Communists, they're just cogs in the machine.

    • @badchefi
      @badchefi Місяць тому

      People like you are the real danger -

    • @badchefi
      @badchefi Місяць тому +1

      @@rumpoh8039turn off caps lock you muppet.

  • @davidjackson3818
    @davidjackson3818 Місяць тому +442

    EVs should not be allowed on passenger car ferries.

  • @paul756uk2
    @paul756uk2 Місяць тому +222

    I like how they've gone from 'zero emissions' to 'zero tailpipe emissions'.

    • @nomyafiftyonefifty8081
      @nomyafiftyonefifty8081 Місяць тому +24

      Or " no local emissions ".

    • @newman653
      @newman653 Місяць тому +20

      People are waking up .

    • @andyman8630
      @andyman8630 Місяць тому +15

      specially considering EVs have no tailpipe

    • @ttkddry
      @ttkddry Місяць тому +29

      ​@@andyman8630the coal plant has a tailpipe...

    • @andyman8630
      @andyman8630 Місяць тому +8

      @@ttkddry
      yep!

  • @Ratzfourtyfour
    @Ratzfourtyfour Місяць тому +100

    'Please park your EV in that sand bunker over there.'

    • @unnamedchannel1237
      @unnamedchannel1237 Місяць тому +3

      But they don’t want the EV’s on the golf course either ?

  • @Thunderbloke2
    @Thunderbloke2 Місяць тому +618

    Comparing EV fires with ICE fires is like comparing nuclear explosions with a firework.

    • @floriangeyer1
      @floriangeyer1 Місяць тому +32

      Nice one 😅

    • @austinblackmore4370
      @austinblackmore4370 Місяць тому +26

      Love it.

    • @Ratzfourtyfour
      @Ratzfourtyfour Місяць тому +34

      A fire extinguisher for EVs fires must contain 5 tons of sand.

    • @Stepbystep74
      @Stepbystep74 Місяць тому +5

      Ice fires can still be pretty problematic especially as if they are on slopes they tend to wander. Ev fires are by comparison usually quite slow and stay where they are. Just a bugger to actually extinguish if you don’t have the right training / equipment.

    • @zwieseler
      @zwieseler Місяць тому +3

      You do know a lot are fitted with LFP batteries, don't you? [No, you didn't....]

  • @user-lj9ld8ir1e
    @user-lj9ld8ir1e Місяць тому +424

    Sprinkler system upgrades.What a joke.May as well urinate over an EV in full thermal run away.

    • @suecharnock9369
      @suecharnock9369 Місяць тому +54

      Made me laugh too. The fire doesn’t even go out if you submerge the darn thing!

    • @fredEVOIX
      @fredEVOIX Місяць тому +37

      I work in the heavy industry we have 4 pages of deadly chemicals list written in small letters and our own specialized fire brigade, they did an ev fire training recently they were told to throw one of those blankets above the vehicule to limit the gases and flame range then go away as there's nothing they can do, they must call a crane truck with a water tank which will lift the vehicle and dunk it in water

    • @AlexanderDaGreat79
      @AlexanderDaGreat79 Місяць тому +4

      All you need is a bit more water and then alakazam, any potential fire has disappeared.

    • @janegreen9340
      @janegreen9340 Місяць тому +20

      @@AlexanderDaGreat79along with anything in the vicinity

    • @LoremIpsum1970
      @LoremIpsum1970 Місяць тому +19

      The sprinklers aren't there to put out the EV fire, they're there to slow the spread to the other vehicles whether they're ICE, EV, whatever.

  • @Brookspirit
    @Brookspirit Місяць тому +199

    Imagine being a person who is upset that a children's hospital is trying to prevent their car from potentially burning it to the ground.

    • @UnitSe7en
      @UnitSe7en Місяць тому +13

      *entitlement*
      [ en-tahy-tl-muhnt ]
      _noun_
      1. the act of giving, or the state of having, a title, right, or claim to something:
      2. the unjustified assumption that one has a right to certain advantages, preferential treatment, etc.

    • @Dratchev241
      @Dratchev241 Місяць тому +18

      the real upsetting thing is dude having to wait 5 f'n years for an appointment for his kid.

    • @peter_peter_pumpkin_eater
      @peter_peter_pumpkin_eater Місяць тому +3

      ​@@Dratchev241 more likely 'needed' to wait 5 yrs until the kid was older. This headline is the clickbait and misinformation that the evangelists are apparently so outraged about.

    • @peter_peter_pumpkin_eater
      @peter_peter_pumpkin_eater Місяць тому +2

      Wait until the mass influx of cheapo Chinese EVs flood the world's markets. I'll be buying my toffee apples and sparklers to watch the firework spectacle.

    • @Luka_3D
      @Luka_3D Місяць тому

      I'm more upset at people who don't understand statistics lol

  • @utoob7361
    @utoob7361 Місяць тому +138

    Building a lithium-ion EV battery should be regarded as an act of terrorism. EVs should be classified as WMDs.

    • @billhesford6098
      @billhesford6098 Місяць тому +4

      We won't find any wmd's

    • @borrisg4972
      @borrisg4972 Місяць тому +2

      Now watch this drive 🏒
      (I couldn't find a golf emoji)

    • @lucylovitt9583
      @lucylovitt9583 Місяць тому +1

      The sad fact is, that potentially they are. The probability of the CCP using them as WMD has in fact been raised on a creditable channel. Just think of the political power that would yield if China threatened to detonate all of the Chinese EV's in any given country. And Yes, technically it's very simple to do.

    • @Philip-hv2kc
      @Philip-hv2kc Місяць тому +1

      You really shouldn't put more ideas into those warped minds . I'll refrain from the explain .

    • @Philip-hv2kc
      @Philip-hv2kc Місяць тому

      There's the old cold war term ....fifth column or suchlike.

  • @liberty0758
    @liberty0758 Місяць тому +246

    You know it's a full on scam when they try to label you as anti-something.

    • @CiderGuy
      @CiderGuy Місяць тому +25

      Too right. We saw that clearly with the Plan Demic.

    • @pistonburner6448
      @pistonburner6448 Місяць тому +2

      Yes, and especially when the guy himself (Quentin Willson) has prior criminal convictions for fraud, and just recently another scam he was involved in was shut down by High Court!

    • @raytrevor1
      @raytrevor1 Місяць тому +19

      Or a 'denier'.

    • @andyman8630
      @andyman8630 Місяць тому +12

      @@CiderGuy
      plannedemic

    • @CiderGuy
      @CiderGuy Місяць тому

      @@andyman8630 Scam Demic even. I find if I join the separate words it gets deleted. Seems I’m on a shadow banned list. 🙄😆

  • @RM_VFX
    @RM_VFX Місяць тому +157

    "Zero tailpipe emissions..." does that classify my ICE as "zero power grid emissions?"

    • @fredEVOIX
      @fredEVOIX Місяць тому +3

      fun fact my 350hp 400lbs/ft sportscar is rated D with a small 175g co2 pretty sure overall I'm polluting less than all those EVs considering I can go uphill a mountain in 6th gear at 1000rpm fine and do 317miles with 50l I'm starting to think car manufacturers removed turbos only to be cheap and that it bit them in the rear when they realized NA is inefficient as hell I'm checking what's available now and all I see are either hybrids or na cars with really bad energy ratings despite having less than half my hp

    • @billhesford6098
      @billhesford6098 Місяць тому +1

      @@fredEVOIX Thank you for looking after the environment.

    • @peterjackson2625
      @peterjackson2625 Місяць тому +5

      EVs cause remote emissions.

    • @vinterskugge907
      @vinterskugge907 Місяць тому

      Sadly, your ICE wouldn't qualify for that. Significant amounts of electricity are used for refining petrol and diesel.

    • @johnpublic6582
      @johnpublic6582 Місяць тому

      @@vinterskugge907 Yep, nearly as much as is used to refine lithium and plastics for EVs.

  • @stevejones9062
    @stevejones9062 Місяць тому +55

    Strange the man could afford an expensive EV but couldn't afford a private specialist.

    • @shaneamundson1192
      @shaneamundson1192 Місяць тому

      I guess some peoples' earth worship religion's environmental protection rules are more important to them than the health of their own children.

    • @TheSpoovy
      @TheSpoovy Місяць тому +4

      Indeed. Bupa costs a few hundred quid a month, I wonder how much he pays PCP (because they always do) on that car. People have fucked up priorities alright.

    • @bunion8579
      @bunion8579 Місяць тому +3

      If he was serious about 'saving mother earth' he would catch a bus to the hospital.

    • @davidharton7202
      @davidharton7202 Місяць тому +1

      government hand. outs

    • @deanchur
      @deanchur Місяць тому +1

      Maybe he bought an ex-lease EV after it's been decimated by depreciation.

  • @stevemumbling7720
    @stevemumbling7720 Місяць тому +72

    I have owned and driven lots of ICE cars since I passed my driving test in1973. Not one of them has ever burst into flames.

    • @TheZodiacz
      @TheZodiacz Місяць тому +8

      I can imagine an EV driver writing a reply like the man writing about tall buildings in Monty Python.
      "Dear sir, I have driven an EV for 3 years and never once has it....AAAAARGH!

    • @borrisg4972
      @borrisg4972 Місяць тому +7

      The way I figure, most EV drivers are "lumberjacks". If you catch my drift.

    • @Luka_3D
      @Luka_3D Місяць тому

      No EV I've driven has bursted into flames either. Your point?

    • @bradgooner3284
      @bradgooner3284 Місяць тому +7

      @@Luka_3D Have you been driving your EV since 1973?

    • @Luka_3D
      @Luka_3D Місяць тому +1

      @@bradgooner3284 Why would I drive a car whose safety rating is as reassuring as a parachute made of toilet paper?

  • @malph9216
    @malph9216 Місяць тому +328

    Quentin Wilson has become a complete, sanctimonious pr1ck. His views on EVs define the term 'zealot'.

    • @lesliewelch6551
      @lesliewelch6551 Місяць тому

      With the huge amount of money he is paid to push EVs, that is why, but he is still a sanctimonious pr1ck

    • @pistonburner6448
      @pistonburner6448 Місяць тому +19

      I read a news article which said: "Quentin Willson describes himself as an EV evangelist."
      He describes himself as one.

    • @sonofdat
      @sonofdat Місяць тому +17

      But Quentin is an Expert.... EX being a "has been" and "Spurt" being a drip under pressure. 😊

    • @newman653
      @newman653 Місяць тому

      It's a virtue signalling cult .

    • @notgoingtotakeitanymore
      @notgoingtotakeitanymore Місяць тому +16

      Yeah but I'll bet his bank balance has never been healthier

  • @DanTheCox
    @DanTheCox Місяць тому +196

    EVangelists are always fun to read, their level of justification to save them from cognitive dissonance is extraordinary.

    • @kendalson7100
      @kendalson7100 Місяць тому

      The level of cognitive dissonance is at the level of mental illness. Denying reality is not healthy in the long run.

    • @andyman8630
      @andyman8630 Місяць тому +8

      much akin to religious Evangelists

    • @AdLockhorst-bf8pz
      @AdLockhorst-bf8pz Місяць тому +8

      EVangelists are a lot like Elon Muskovites; almost religious level unquestioning zealots. They desperately *want* to believe the electric gospel.

    • @TObeMPA
      @TObeMPA Місяць тому +2

      3 years driving an electric second hand gospel …. No fires, no loosing precious time chargi g in petrol stations… saving 300 dolars per month… no religion give me this…

    • @Luka_3D
      @Luka_3D Місяць тому

      Tbh you guys are on the same level as them with your understanding of statistics.

  • @kunka592
    @kunka592 Місяць тому +13

    Comparing an ICE car fire to an EV fire is like comparing the flu to cancer.

  • @andybrowne2117
    @andybrowne2117 Місяць тому +65

    Never a truer word spoken ! The EV is rapidly losing credence !! KEEP UP THE GOOD POSTS !!

    • @biobuble1327
      @biobuble1327 Місяць тому +1

      and lies. God, I love listening to his lies.

    • @Ricky-mo6mv
      @Ricky-mo6mv Місяць тому

      Not soon enough. It still kills me that people would even consider buying an EV.

    • @biobuble1327
      @biobuble1327 Місяць тому

      @@Ricky-mo6mv why? I can't see why buying an EV would do anything to you. Do you have a tragic backstory where an EV drove over your family or something?

    • @Ricky-mo6mv
      @Ricky-mo6mv Місяць тому

      @@biobuble1327 No. To put it plainly, it’s all about globalist corruption, limiting private transportation, and manipulating the world economic platform.
      Not to mention it’s a nonsensical solution to an imaginary problem.

  • @robg521
    @robg521 Місяць тому +116

    If Quentin Wilson told me that it was raining, I would go to the window to check.

    • @AlanRoberts-xy4wu
      @AlanRoberts-xy4wu Місяць тому +4

      🤣

    • @TheNewOriginals450
      @TheNewOriginals450 Місяць тому +4

      He'd probably try to sell you an umbrella.

    • @DamnItCarl-
      @DamnItCarl- Місяць тому +1

      I’d already know he was lying as his lips would move.

    • @dfluke3698
      @dfluke3698 Місяць тому +1

      If he told me it was raining I would not waste my energy going to the window as I know it’s a lie !

  • @andywarrington4738
    @andywarrington4738 Місяць тому +247

    Quentin Wilson only says something if it conflicts with his income , he is paid to promote EV's , he is and has always been a clown

    • @peetsnort
      @peetsnort Місяць тому +20

      With an irritating smirk

    • @AlanRoberts-xy4wu
      @AlanRoberts-xy4wu Місяць тому +15

      Agreed & he looks like Dracula 😄

    • @user-xq6me6pd7q
      @user-xq6me6pd7q Місяць тому +12

      agreed. Slimeball!

    • @edrowe1138
      @edrowe1138 Місяць тому +8

      I’ll bet if you check into his funds he’s heavily invested and realizes his life savings are about to evaporate along with a few other people hurry

    • @CiderGuy
      @CiderGuy Місяць тому +10

      He was pushing dodgy car warranty policies before this particular grift came along. 🤨

  • @beekeeper8474
    @beekeeper8474 Місяць тому +19

    Ice cars don't randomly burst into flames. 20 years of being a mechanic zero fires.

    • @Stambo59
      @Stambo59 Місяць тому +4

      Some did many years ago. There was a certain group of English fords that used poor quality rubber fuel lines routed above the distributor. You can guess the rest.
      50 years of being a mechanic, 4 fire results dealt with, all were repairable.

  • @TrishMaxwell-en5tu
    @TrishMaxwell-en5tu Місяць тому +16

    I have been a firefighter in NSW for over 30 years. I have two comments:
    1) While historically there have been more petrol powered car fires (because EVs didn't exist) from my experience 95% of those fire were deliberately lit. Very few have been due to a mechanical or electrical fault and you are correct when you say that these faults generally occur when the vehicle is operating on the road, not in a carpark.
    2) Refueling of petrol powered vehicles takes place at service stations, not in a carpark of an apartment building like EVs.

    • @porthill702
      @porthill702 Місяць тому +1

      I work for the same organisation as you and for 35 years. It is very rare that an ICE vehicle ignites due to a mechanical fault. Where I am stationed there are many mid rise residential/holiday premises with underground EV charging points and I have informed every one of them of the risk. They don’t seem too bothered about this as long as they have the facilities to generate more business. As you know sprinkler systems will do nothing with that amount of radiant heat. Good post 👍

  • @photohounds
    @photohounds Місяць тому +138

    I'll listen to the REAL FIRE SAFETY experts, thanks all the same.
    . . NOT EVangelist shills

    • @Audioremedy0785
      @Audioremedy0785 Місяць тому

      Real fire safety experts brand EVs as being totally safe. So let’s get on with it 👍🏻

    • @caleroby9483
      @caleroby9483 Місяць тому +1

      As is scooter an ebike Lithium batteries.... They, kinna safe... Ishhhy...
      That good enough...
      Hardly.

    • @Audioremedy0785
      @Audioremedy0785 Місяць тому

      @@caleroby9483 the difference between scooter and e-bike batteries is there is far less regulation and control to manufacture and distribution. It’s comparing apples to oranges.

    • @caleroby9483
      @caleroby9483 Місяць тому

      @@Audioremedy0785 Fair enough. But you have to admit that 6,000+ cells leaves little safe room for a short in the typical EV car battery.
      I'm for progress but only where the "push" is from a WELL tested and Determined SAFE technology.
      Lithium is not that.
      New battery tech is needed BADLY.
      Not to mention the need for Safe Nuclear power generation to produce the MEGGGGA WATTS of power that will be needed.
      I'm 100% for efficient Hybrids.

    • @Audioremedy0785
      @Audioremedy0785 Місяць тому

      @@caleroby9483 I think there is always room for improvements when it comes to safety. However I would say there is a big difference between ‘room for improvement’ and something being ‘unsafe’. Issues with EVs are headline news that they are so rare. Worrying about EVs setting fire is like worrying about planes crashing. Yeah it happens. But you wouldn’t stop flying for it.

  • @Brookspirit
    @Brookspirit Місяць тому +98

    A car across the road from my house caught fire many years ago, the fire service put it out within seconds. It was parked inches from their house but caused no property damage, if it had been an EV the whole house would have burned down.

    • @TooOldToCare-kl3co
      @TooOldToCare-kl3co Місяць тому +1

      None

    • @Noah_E
      @Noah_E Місяць тому +8

      Or at the least the side closest to the fire would have had to be professionally cleaned. My dad was a fire chief for over a decade and most car fires were almost out by the time they arrived on scene and were out in a matter of minutes if they hadn't already burnt themselves out. EV fires are so much more violent and harder to extinguish.

  • @rwalkenhorst
    @rwalkenhorst Місяць тому +12

    Welcome to the future, where you'll spend one half of your time waiting for your car to charge and the other half waiting to see a doctor.

  • @jodywhitehead9173
    @jodywhitehead9173 Місяць тому +46

    Your list did not include the toxic fumes released and the specialized breathing gear and suits to avoid skin contact.

    • @borrisg4972
      @borrisg4972 Місяць тому +6

      How long until we see the commercials?
      "Are you a current or former firefighter diagnosed with XYZ cancers after being exposed to the chemicals involved in containing EV batteries? You may be entitled to a settledment in the multibillion dollar classaction lawsuit against the U.S. Government and manufacturers of EV batteries for forcing a product onto society they knew in advance was incredibley dangerous and incredibley toxic"

    • @jaypioh
      @jaypioh Місяць тому +1

      @@borrisg4972 give it 15yrs

  • @keegan773
    @keegan773 Місяць тому +135

    EV fires vs ICE fires.
    Inextinguishable 🔥 vs hand held 🧯

    • @Crosshair84
      @Crosshair84 Місяць тому +13

      I once witnessed an ICE catch fire in a parking lot. It took the fire department 15 to 20 minutes to get there, but they were still able to put it out with the built-in water tank of the fire truck.

    • @user-wm3bf7pi3u
      @user-wm3bf7pi3u Місяць тому +8

      On "Rescue Me" Leary's character sees a car crash in front of the station and walks up with an extinguisher and no other gear, a couple of puffs and it's out.

    • @janfgfdx5165
      @janfgfdx5165 Місяць тому +4

      Also there are much more gas cars on the road then ev,s

    • @kennyjacobs867
      @kennyjacobs867 Місяць тому +6

      And much older to. Just imagine a ten year old eva fire rate.

    • @jasoneldridge4738
      @jasoneldridge4738 Місяць тому

      Most ICE fires are caused by electric faults.

  • @billmitchell7904
    @billmitchell7904 Місяць тому +124

    Not only do sprinklers not work when EV batteries supply their own oxygen in runaway but the damn things are too heavy for multi-storey car parks!

    • @billhesford6098
      @billhesford6098 Місяць тому +15

      I am starting to have a look at what type of car I am parking next to.

    • @brendykes1202
      @brendykes1202 Місяць тому +2

      Congratulations on another myth. Have you looked at the weight of an SUV? Cars have been getting much heavier before the advent of EVs. Where is the ban on SUVs due to weight?

    • @Bullshit1011
      @Bullshit1011 Місяць тому

      And the extra weight helps to ruin the roads faster

    • @johnpublic6582
      @johnpublic6582 Місяць тому +2

      @@brendykes1202 You can't make your problem go away by pointing out that another problem exists. Yes, SUVs are too heavy, but EVs are just as heavy and provide none of the utility.

    • @brendykes1202
      @brendykes1202 Місяць тому +1

      @@johnpublic6582 you mean MORE utility. Aside from long distance towing, name something EVs can’t do. Mine is better at almost everything, including camping & drag racing.

  • @harleydavo1099
    @harleydavo1099 Місяць тому +68

    Citation needed for these statistics. ICE vehicles are burnt out after joy rides and theft. Maybe some in accidents, but how many just burn whilst parked?

    • @hansemannluchter643
      @hansemannluchter643 Місяць тому +2

      Copium.

    • @antoniolum1506
      @antoniolum1506 Місяць тому +3

      ​@@hansemannluchter643Translate to English: I don't want to see the data proving me right? Ironic. Remember to exhale.

    • @andyman8630
      @andyman8630 Місяць тому

      all the ones burnt out after a joyride???

    • @reginald7214
      @reginald7214 Місяць тому

      Not sure, wouldn't think it would be many?

    • @kunka592
      @kunka592 Місяць тому +1

      @@hansemannluchter643 Ironic because your response is the literal copium.

  • @steveanderson9290
    @steveanderson9290 Місяць тому +12

    I am a retired "Fire Systems Analyst". I know of no fire suppression system available at any price that could reliably protect a structure from total loss in the event of an EV fire in it's interior.

    • @Luka_3D
      @Luka_3D Місяць тому

      Fire blankets

    • @steveanderson9290
      @steveanderson9290 Місяць тому +1

      @@Luka_3D In this context, a "fire suppression system" is one that is designed to automatically suppress a fire and protect the structure until manual fire fighting methods can be employed and the fire extinguished. A "fire blanket", in current parlance, is a specialized suppression tool used during manual firefighting of EV fires.

  • @ghunt9146
    @ghunt9146 Місяць тому +254

    QW has lost all credibility & is now a joke.

  • @RM_VFX
    @RM_VFX Місяць тому +120

    No matter how small the risk, it would be pretty epically stupid to delete a bunch of sick people in their beds because a Tesla battery went nuclear while the owner had a boil removed.

    • @ghunt9146
      @ghunt9146 Місяць тому +5

      🤣🤣🤣

    • @pistonburner6448
      @pistonburner6448 Місяць тому +10

      Tesla owners have things so backwards I wouldn't be surprised if they went in to get boils installed!

    • @dungareesareforfools
      @dungareesareforfools Місяць тому +5

      @@pistonburner6448 They're probably in there for whatever happens to you if you drink too much coffee and spend too long in service station toilets.

    • @Jchathe
      @Jchathe Місяць тому +1

      Good point!

    • @chrissmith2114
      @chrissmith2114 Місяць тому +6

      That EV owner went to get second half of his brain removed, after the first operation he went out and bought an EV..

  • @Jchathe
    @Jchathe Місяць тому +12

    You, Sir, are performing an extremely important public information service. Thank you for your excellent content. You are making a real difference.

  • @garymathis1042
    @garymathis1042 Місяць тому +16

    At some point, an EV fire is going to cause a mass casualty event.

    • @johnfitzsimmons9241
      @johnfitzsimmons9241 Місяць тому +1

      And I don't want it to be in my Class 2 building, with 4 sleeping levels above the EV carparking/charging!

    • @scottcarr3264
      @scottcarr3264 Місяць тому

      Yeah, then what will the Main Stream Media say.

    • @shamancredible8632
      @shamancredible8632 Місяць тому

      if it happens, they'll blame everyone who owns an ICE car for "holding up EV development" or some other contrived nonsense besides the obvious actual reason.

  • @chrisaris8756
    @chrisaris8756 Місяць тому +82

    Can sprinkler systems really put out an EV fire? I doubt it.

    • @AlanRoberts-xy4wu
      @AlanRoberts-xy4wu Місяць тому +12

      No..

    • @Ben31337l
      @Ben31337l Місяць тому +8

      Another commenter said this, it wouldn't be too put out the fire, but to limit the spread of the fire to other vehicles and EVs.

    • @user-wm3bf7pi3u
      @user-wm3bf7pi3u Місяць тому +5

      @@Ben31337l OK so the batteries are supposed to be great for us all, I wonder how much of a war crime it would be to load up a few bunker busters with batteries and let 'em fly?
      Napalm, phosphorous... bat bombs.... nope the 1/2 ton cell from a Tesla that got wet.

    • @jakefriesenjake
      @jakefriesenjake Місяць тому +4

      No. It's like peeing on a huge bon-fire.

    • @onastick2411
      @onastick2411 Місяць тому +3

      That's what I was thinking, if that's true and the temperatures reach 2,500C, I'd have thought the water would evaporate long before it reached the flames. Might stop it spreading I guess.

  • @Withnail1969
    @Withnail1969 Місяць тому +75

    The extreme weight of EV's is a big problem for parking structures as well.

    • @peejayem4700
      @peejayem4700 Місяць тому +1

      The top selling ev’s: how is a 1.9 ton Model Y so different to a 1.9 ton Hyundai Santa Fe? How is a 1.6 ton Model 3 so different to a 1.6 ton Toyota Camry? Far and away the bigger weight gain is the trend toward big 4WDs

    • @kezzatries
      @kezzatries Місяць тому +2

      @@peejayem4700 agreed but they are still harder on tyres, I've read

    • @stefanth8596
      @stefanth8596 Місяць тому +1

      You mean more torque that destroy tires?

    • @Withnail1969
      @Withnail1969 Місяць тому +4

      @@kezzatries and harder on roads.

    • @geoffsclassiccars
      @geoffsclassiccars Місяць тому +1

      @@stefanth8596🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 no info available on bhp ( yes I know its measured in kw) cos no-one wants to put it on a rolling road to PROVE performance

  • @Marcobelluchi-xl3gc
    @Marcobelluchi-xl3gc Місяць тому +11

    I am electrical engineer, but the fires caused by battery operated cars is something preventing me to buy an EV. I will not be able to sleep knowing that I have potential time bomb in my garage and put at risk my family and neighbors.

  • @Simon-pg1ts
    @Simon-pg1ts Місяць тому +4

    The 21st Century definition of "misinformation" is "anything that is considered to be inconvenient or destabilising to institutions in positions of official authority, or to the people who staff them"

  • @wisher21uk
    @wisher21uk Місяць тому +83

    I love the idea of EV ambulances, “ I need an ambulance” sorry sir they’re all on charge at the moment, there is a 3 hour wait, can you get the patient here by car

    • @techjunkie68smusicandtech56
      @techjunkie68smusicandtech56 Місяць тому +16

      Just make sure it's not an EV as you can't park here...

    • @wisher21uk
      @wisher21uk Місяць тому +4

      @@techjunkie68smusicandtech56 lol 😂 that’s true

    • @stevengriffin7873
      @stevengriffin7873 Місяць тому +9

      No I can't my car is being charged up.

    • @wisher21uk
      @wisher21uk Місяць тому +2

      @@stevengriffin7873 very good point 😆

    • @TheZodiacz
      @TheZodiacz Місяць тому +6

      Yes, I can get the patient there- should I hurry?
      No, you've got 5 years wait.

  • @fredfred2363
    @fredfred2363 Місяць тому +57

    Reading the comments, everyone is missing Simon's main point here.
    Yes, petrol and diesel cars statistically have more fires (there are more of them).
    The problem is that it is almost impossible to extinguish an EV fire.
    It's easy to put out a fuel fire.

    • @stefanth8596
      @stefanth8596 Місяць тому +2

      That must be why entire floor of cars get damaged when there is a parking garage fire

    • @janfgfdx5165
      @janfgfdx5165 Місяць тому +2

      Also there are more gas cars on the road then electric ones

    • @GDM22
      @GDM22 Місяць тому +3

      No they don't have more fires because there are more of them, ICE vehicles catch fire more often, the statistics are quoted in fires per x number of vehicles licenced. According to the statistics an ICE vehicle is between 60-100 times more likely to catch fire. Also around 60% of the EV fires did not involve the battery.

    • @Perusalstein
      @Perusalstein Місяць тому +1

      @@GDM22What do you say happens when an EV fire occurs?

    • @GDM22
      @GDM22 Місяць тому

      ​@@Perusalstein Given the likelihood of one (which reduce again significantly when Hybrids are removed), the further discount by 60% for the fire not involving the battery and the fact that most EVs sold in Australia have LFP chemistries which reduces the risk again significantly, I can live with it.

  • @robroysyd
    @robroysyd Місяць тому +35

    The problem with the statistics is they do not differentiate between ICE vehicles that just catch fire and the ones that are deliberately set on fire which is quite a few.

    • @deniswauchope3788
      @deniswauchope3788 Місяць тому +4

      There's also a lot of misdirection with vague phrases like "ICE vehicle fires occur far more often than EV fires," which is misleading at best. About 2% of the 20 million vehicles in Australia are EVs, so of course ICE vehicles have more fires, there are so many more of them compared to EVs. But like MGuy said, it's the severity of the fires that really makes the diifference!

    • @nonotorious1467
      @nonotorious1467 Місяць тому +2

      Not only that but the cost of EV currently put it in mostly highly affluent areas which probably have decent security or don't need it at all where cars aren't being robbed and taken for joyrides and then set alight, meaning the statistics are completely skewed atm. But still you get people arguing with statistics constantly who don;t understand how easy it is to lie with said statistics.

    • @Luka_3D
      @Luka_3D Місяць тому

      They don't distinguish that on the ev side too.

    • @Luka_3D
      @Luka_3D Місяць тому

      @@deniswauchope3788 Oy vey... We have the percentages that account for that. ice vs ev is still 20:1

    • @Luka_3D
      @Luka_3D Місяць тому

      @@nonotorious1467 BYD seagull is 11k. Cheaper than what the Corsa C was when it came out

  • @Echo4Sierra4160
    @Echo4Sierra4160 Місяць тому +7

    A car fire takes about 300 gallons (1135.62 liters) of water. An EV fire takes about 30,000 gallons (113562.35 liters)

  • @jazztheglass6139
    @jazztheglass6139 Місяць тому +80

    Alder Hey is a large children's hospital. You really don't want those fumes affecting already very sick children, never mind the staff

    • @squishedfrog99-gp4qq
      @squishedfrog99-gp4qq Місяць тому +1

      You are being sarcastic, right? If not you need hospital treatment for ice derangement syndrome. Anyway, parking at hospitals is like finding unicorn poo. Should have taken a cab.

    • @jazztheglass6139
      @jazztheglass6139 Місяць тому

      @@squishedfrog99-gp4qq no I was a patient at Alder Hey hospital as a child. I was a inpatient for 8 long weeks. Its the main child hospital for Merseyside. They do a lot of specialist treatments for diseases and conditions. A lot of children in there have extremely compromised immunity systems.
      It's not in Liverpool inner city, it's out in a suburb. Parking is available, but of course a premium is charged

    • @deanchur
      @deanchur Місяць тому

      @@squishedfrog99-gp4qq The hospital I go to for appointments is about 100m away from a major road which has 3hr free parking in the middle; I just park there...and when I'm walking through the hospital car park on the way there there's always a few cars driving in circles looking for a parking spot.

  • @johnm838
    @johnm838 Місяць тому +39

    And yet Australian building regulations want everyone to be able to charge their EV at home in the garage.

    • @fredfred2363
      @fredfred2363 Місяць тому +4

      VERY good point.

    • @jamesbondeson669
      @jamesbondeson669 Місяць тому +1

      Here in the US, there have been many cases where an EV had caught fire in an attached home garage and burned down the house with it.

    • @Luka_3D
      @Luka_3D Місяць тому

      Yes because they actually understand the risks

    • @mattf20c27
      @mattf20c27 Місяць тому

      NCC will be updated, with locations where BESS and Ev chargers can be installed in relationship to habitable zones.

  • @dwayne7356
    @dwayne7356 Місяць тому +9

    As an American firefighter, ICE cars have been known to burn when people park on piles of leaves. The hot exhaust pipes would catch the leaves on fires. Very easy to put out. This was very common when I first became a firefighter in the late 1970s. In the last few decades, this rarely happens now. I believe that exhaust pipes run cooler, catalytic converter heat shields are in place, and there are more SUVs and trucks in the United States with higher ground clearance. If a car's electric systems shorts out, very rarely does the car burn down a garage, it just smokes and blows a fuse.

    • @snowbert2650
      @snowbert2650 Місяць тому +2

      In texas you have to avoid parking in long grass, I saw a Pursuit (Arkansas) the cop pitted the perp off the road and stopped partly in the ditch so the cruiser was almost bottomed out on the slope. The cop was chasing the perp, by the time he got back to the car the grass under it caught fire because it contacted the engine.

  • @jono.pom-downunder
    @jono.pom-downunder Місяць тому +16

    ICE fires can be suppressed or contained by current sprinkler systems. EV batteries cannot be tackled by current sprinkler systems.

    • @Luka_3D
      @Luka_3D Місяць тому

      You can supress it with a fire blanket

    • @jono.pom-downunder
      @jono.pom-downunder Місяць тому +1

      @@Luka_3D I don't know of any automatic fire blankets

    • @paulsimpson8990
      @paulsimpson8990 Місяць тому

      Sprinklers are not designed to deal with hydrocarbon fires. Hydrocarbon fires require foam which is used to prevent the evolution of fuel vapour which is what is burning. Putting water into a hydrocarbon fire just spreads the fire. You have no idea what you’re on about

  • @piad2102
    @piad2102 Місяць тому +60

    Government: Drive EV!!!!
    Government: No EV in parking lots

    • @andyman8630
      @andyman8630 Місяць тому +8

      guvt = 1) we have no fkn idea 2) flock everything we touch

    • @Bullshit1011
      @Bullshit1011 Місяць тому

      Be ause they are stupid

    • @Ricky-mo6mv
      @Ricky-mo6mv Місяць тому

      Well the ultimate goal is to eliminate private transportation. They are just taking the deceptive approach to try and hide their intentions.

  • @robg521
    @robg521 Місяць тому +40

    If you take your camper van on a ferry they will ask if you have gas bottles on board, and if you do they will park you outside in the open close to the exit ramp on the ship away from the main internal body of the ship, it isn’t about how often the gas bottle catch fire, it’s about how do they deal with the hazard if they do catch fire.

    • @CrowPal
      @CrowPal Місяць тому +2

      Also, if there's a gas leak, you don't want that happening in an enclosed portion of the ship. Same applies to EVs with their vapour cloud explosion potential.

    • @robg521
      @robg521 Місяць тому +2

      @@CrowPal
      Precisely… every hazardous product we use is controlled by safety rules to govern their storage and use.
      Except EV’s apparently.

    • @deniswauchope3788
      @deniswauchope3788 Місяць тому +3

      In the US & Canada, there are a lot of tunnels where no bottled gas is allowed, camper vans & the like have to plan other routes. This should also be the case with EVs, as the danger is even greater if an EV should burst into flame within a tunnel. That could really be a major disaster!

  • @rholmst
    @rholmst Місяць тому +7

    Should be banned from any enclosed spaces.

  • @DigiDriftZone
    @DigiDriftZone Місяць тому +17

    We have 33.3m of cars (RAC, March 2023), out of those around 0.77m are EVs (some websites claim more, but the government just released stats a week ago claiming 2.3%). According to the government official fire stats, we had a total of 6,612 car fires in 2022/23.
    Unfortunately we don’t know how many EV fires there are as it is not counted by the government (why?). But Honeywell requested information from 21 of the 52 fire and rescue services across the UK, many of the fire services contacted only recorded and held limited data related to EV fires, while others held no data on the topic!
    In any case, from less than half of the fire services and some of those providing no data at all, they counted 239 EV fires between Jul 2022 and Jul 2023. It goes without saying this number is a substantial under representation of the number of EV fires. Other websites claim 600+ EV fires, but it is difficult to confirm for sure.
    Even if we use this number, 33.3m non-EVs are responsible for 6,373 fires, or 0.0191% of cars vs 0.77m EVs being responsible for 239 fires, that’s 0.031% of EVs (83% increase from 2021/22 btw!).
    So even with less than half the data, we still get 1.62x more fires per EV than non-EV (2.3% of EV cars causing 3.6% of fires), that’s a staggering difference! - In reality, an EV is 3-6x more likely to catch fire once you include the missing data - i.e. 2.3% of EV cars being responsible for 10.8% to 21.7% of the car fires.
    That paints a pretty grim picture, especially in the context of an ICE fire averaging 40 minutes, while an EV one with a thermal runaway can last 8-48 hours and beyond and cause devastating damage to nearby vehicles and buildings.
    All in all, you are looking at 100x or more environmental damage per vehicle fire when it comes to EVs and 3-6x more fires per EV on the road.
    EV evangelists like to use sales figures when they compare fire stats, instead of actual vehicles on the road. That is just flat out lying. Just because they sold X number of EVs and had Y number of fires, this has no relevance at all to the fire risk of each vehicle on the road.
    This is today, when EVs are relatively new and relatively safe. What happens when we have older vehicles that are improperly repaired in the future? - this is an absolute catastrophe in the making, the only saving grace is this is only 2.3% of vehicles. With the government subsidies dwindling in the coming years, we can only hope this percentage doesn’t change too much.

    • @LastOnSunday
      @LastOnSunday Місяць тому +4

      Damm, you and you pesky facts! 😂😂

    • @bluddyrowdy8757
      @bluddyrowdy8757 Місяць тому +2

      Well done Mate
      Onya and Cheers !

    • @deniswauchope3788
      @deniswauchope3788 Місяць тому +2

      Thanks for that research & analysis, that's exactly what I wanted to see! EVs are just not on, the cost/benefit ratio is so lopsided it's crazy to think of the "benefits" of EVs. There just aren't any!

    • @singmysong1167
      @singmysong1167 Місяць тому +1

      Thank you for your expert report. 😊

  • @robg521
    @robg521 Місяць тому +32

    The issue about fire safety isn’t just how prone something is to catch fire, it’s the hazards of which that fire produces and the impact of dealing with it.
    If you store a lot of cardboard and paper then that is a fire hazard that can catch fire extremely easily, but the fire can be put out with a simple sprinkler system.
    But if you store flammable gas bottles the chances of them catching fire is a lot smaller, but if there is a fire you then have an explosion risk.
    This is the same for chemical storage, and of course thing’s like lithium battery storage.

  • @bigjoeangel
    @bigjoeangel Місяць тому +11

    There should be EV only carparks constructed on elevated platforms above a deep lake. Fire detection systems operate continuously and if a car catches fire, a trap door opens underneath that car and it drops into the lake.

    • @andyharman3022
      @andyharman3022 Місяць тому +4

      And the system automatically puts in a call to the local authorities to deal with the toxic waste site that the lake has just become.

  • @BrettSmashy
    @BrettSmashy Місяць тому +4

    “As a cherry on this 💩 🎂” I laughed out loud at that one. 🤣 Brilliant!

  • @leemace9638
    @leemace9638 Місяць тому +35

    At least Petrol cars are easier to put out the flames 🔥😂

    • @user-wm3bf7pi3u
      @user-wm3bf7pi3u Місяць тому +3

      There are more ICE fires... but what is the ratio of fires per registered vehicle.
      1 in 100,000 ICE?
      1 in 1000 EV?

  • @xpusostomos
    @xpusostomos Місяць тому +40

    There's no conceivable sprinkler upgrade that can make a difference

    • @thehairygolfer
      @thehairygolfer Місяць тому +10

      Not even dropping it in the ocean puts it out.

    • @xpusostomos
      @xpusostomos Місяць тому

      @@thehairygolfer Dropping in the ocean actually would start to cool it and start the process of putting it out. 10000 gallon an hour water flow, and yes you can put it out.

    • @mellarner8253
      @mellarner8253 Місяць тому +4

      A lovely toxic soup being created. Sod the sea life, eh?

    • @EdMcF1
      @EdMcF1 Місяць тому

      Liquid Argon might just work.

    • @mellarner8253
      @mellarner8253 Місяць тому

      @@EdMcF1 They have tried inert gases before, liquid Nitrogen mainly, Argon is much the same but not available in the same quantity

  • @erik_dk842
    @erik_dk842 Місяць тому +4

    I saw an EV in the last stages of burning out on the Kalundborg motorway in Denmark this morning.
    White stars were shooting out, like a huge firecracker. The black smoke plume was gigantic. The passengers and their luggage was nicely placed in the emergency lane. There was only one lane at that spot, due to roadworks, so the eastbound traffic towards Copenhagen was blocked 10 kilometers back.

  • @Th1swayD3athgaming
    @Th1swayD3athgaming Місяць тому +3

    from California...working with structural parking ...they do not yet pay attention to the added weight and fire hazards...they do not understand yet that this could be a future issue...brought it up in a meeting and all were surprised about the info gathered by this channel..so keep it up sir...your doing society good.

  • @blxtothis
    @blxtothis Місяць тому +78

    There’s a lot wrong with this story, a father allows a 2 year old to wait 5 years for a hospital appointment?????
    Ok, might be for a check up which is only applicable once a child reaches a certain point in his growth, or for follow-up to ensure earlier conditions are proceeding to plan. Maybe this was non essential and something has been lost in the telling of this tale.
    If not, I’d have saved money and not wasted it on an EV and had the kid checked privately using the dosh saved.

    • @paulinelong7205
      @paulinelong7205 Місяць тому +5

      Had the medical condition been life threatening surely the Emergency Dept. would have treated him/her.

    • @onastick2411
      @onastick2411 Місяць тому +13

      Basically this story is, man has to park a few yards away from where he intended to park, due to ongoing building maintenance.

    • @KevinSmith-yo8qb
      @KevinSmith-yo8qb Місяць тому +3

      You might want to do more research onto the continuing degredation of the NHS in the UK; it really is sad.

    • @bobstirling6885
      @bobstirling6885 Місяць тому +3

      It's very unlikely that a young child would have to wait 5 years for an appointment at a specialist children's hospital if it were for a serious condition.

    • @Grace_and_Truth78
      @Grace_and_Truth78 Місяць тому

      ​@@bobstirling6885more likely the child was too young to be treated for whatever condition/operation needed.

  • @christopherhind8680
    @christopherhind8680 Місяць тому +24

    I’ve worked on normal gas diesel cars trucks and everything in between for 40 years and never seen a car explode on its own ,

    • @fredEVOIX
      @fredEVOIX Місяць тому

      my previous car I self tuned and made an oopsie breaking a seal of one of the fuel injectors at installation car ran really badly opened the bonnet fuel everywhere..didn't start a fire just saying, mid-rear engine supercars are something else as engines overheat and cook in their cradle with little to no air pretty sure that would have ended differently

    • @johnfitzsimmons9241
      @johnfitzsimmons9241 Місяць тому

      EVs sure do though, even transporting on a RO-RO ship, and can restart when you have put them somewhere 'safe'!

  • @roybatty-
    @roybatty- Місяць тому +6

    I had an argument about a decade ago on a motorcycle forum about the power and resilience of Li battery fires. I was dismissed as a misinformation spreader.

  • @Aussiepete1962
    @Aussiepete1962 Місяць тому +10

    Yep .. this is being done already in Perth WA , a car park on “ The Esplanade “ in the city centre has banned EV’s within the structure and makes those things park in a open out outside space with bigger spacing between cars .
    Meanwhile in Burnie Tasmania the local multi storey car park has placed EV chargers right next to the only pedestrian crossing and exit within the structure and next to other ICE cars , honestly the Burnie council has an IQ in single figures on a good day .

    • @Aussiepete1962
      @Aussiepete1962 Місяць тому

      And further to my comment on the multi story car park in Burnie Tasmania fire engines can’t even fit into the structure ( the entrance can barely fit my pickup truck into because the entrance lanes are on a bend and so narrow that I literally have only inches to get through ) so the only emergency vehicles that will fit is their Toyota Land Cruiser flat tray or one of the smaller CFA fire trucks maybe .

  • @tokyosundeiru2006
    @tokyosundeiru2006 Місяць тому +40

    Yeah. Five years for an NHS appointment. The NHS rocks!

    • @edwardroy3401
      @edwardroy3401 Місяць тому +13

      Socialism

    • @edwardroy3401
      @edwardroy3401 Місяць тому

      ​@@Sonny_McMacsson Communist 🇨🇳

    • @Sonny_McMacsson
      @Sonny_McMacsson Місяць тому +2

      How absurd that this comment is in a video about evagelists leaving out critical context. You have no context. None of us do. Maybe the wait was important from a developmental standpoint. Apparently, when it's something you want to rip on, you sound as irrational as they do. Oh, the horse shoe.

    • @LoremIpsum1970
      @LoremIpsum1970 Місяць тому +1

      ROFL. Of course you are a doctor...some conditions can't be intervened until the child's at a certain age or level of development. Until they disclose the reasons, everyone's thinking the worst and speculating... Yes, the NHS can be a postcode lottery regarding the waiting times, but on the whole that's based on severity. Suspected 'C' cases are seen by a consultant within a 2-week protocol timeframe, and treatment soon after. That goes for everyone I've known and twice for myself...

    • @neil5877
      @neil5877 Місяць тому

      Blame 14 years of Conservative rule they have run it into the ground to try to justify selling it off to private companies and corporate donors the MP's involved with make millions from kick back's from the dodgy government contracts. If you believe the mainstream media and our politicians, sir, you are a fool.

  • @RichieRouge206
    @RichieRouge206 Місяць тому +36

    Congratulations on 66.6K subs Simon! 😂 completely valid by banning them and I love how all EVangelists ALWAYS use the 'ICE cars burn a lot more often' and always don't understand the toxicity and danger of burning EVs. Great video

  • @bobovv6060
    @bobovv6060 Місяць тому +6

    When the inevitable happens and a family is scorched, or an apartment block burns to the ground, the EV lobbyists STILL will not give a damn.

    • @shamancredible8632
      @shamancredible8632 Місяць тому

      being worse than our existing technology is a feature, not a bug. What, are you expecting things to improve?

    • @Ricky-mo6mv
      @Ricky-mo6mv Місяць тому

      They sure won’t. It will be deemed as being Trump’s fault.

  • @murraymclean9072
    @murraymclean9072 Місяць тому +12

    I think i remember a house in NZ where a EV caught fire in front of a garage..set the house on fire and i think the neighbours as well..and the fire brigade eas there and couldn't put it out at the early stages..thats the difference.

    • @robertgreen9614
      @robertgreen9614 Місяць тому +2

      That was the one where the fire department stated the fire started at the other side of the house and that the EV wasn't even parked in the garage. Oddly enough the neighbours filmed the car sitting in the garage shooting flames. Go figure.🤦‍♂️

  • @spudsmckenzie4123
    @spudsmckenzie4123 Місяць тому +44

    66.6K. You devil, you. 😂

    • @nps5886
      @nps5886 Місяць тому +2

      Lol just spotted that let's hope nothing goes wrong

    • @mguytv
      @mguytv  Місяць тому +4

      😈

    • @aperitifs
      @aperitifs Місяць тому +2

      666k subs will last longer . ( There will be some awesome content to come no doubt)

  • @HerrHoppenstedt
    @HerrHoppenstedt Місяць тому +26

    2 of my 3 brothers went out to buy/lease an ev as a family car. I talked to them about the dangers, didn't even mention inefficiencies, for days. After they got agitated and told me to stfu, i stoped.
    Now i can only cross my fingers that nothing will happen...

    • @fredEVOIX
      @fredEVOIX Місяць тому +8

      should have showed them an actual "battery pack replacement cost" and look for real prices 1st as the main results are all lies citing 5-6000 which is the price of the smaller light hybrid batteries, actual EV batteries go from 10'000 to 50'000, I checked the fiat 500 EV a small car unable to do 70miles in winter on a full charge LOL it's around 12'000€ 33% of the car (already abusive for such a useless vehicle) price

    • @sg305
      @sg305 Місяць тому +8

      Sad.....its their choice though. One day they will wake up.

    • @HerrHoppenstedt
      @HerrHoppenstedt Місяць тому +1

      @@fredEVOIX I am the youngest brother, 9 years apart to the youngest of them. That alone dismisses nearly everything i say. Well, hope their experience and wisdom carry them through that decision.

    • @Audioremedy0785
      @Audioremedy0785 Місяць тому

      Do you do the same when they get in plane.

    • @singmysong1167
      @singmysong1167 Місяць тому +1

      I just hope they don't have any little ones buckled in snugly in a carseat in the back seat, if someone accidentally hit them or the lithium battery suddenly unexpectedly combusted and caught fire!

  • @bobdylan7120
    @bobdylan7120 Місяць тому +5

    Two multi-storey carparks have been destroyed in the UK by EV fires.
    The latest one was at Luton Airport and video clearly shows it was a Hybrid vehicle. Bright flames were shooting out from underneath the car in the area of the front passenger seat, where the Batteries are located. But, despite all the evidence to the contrary, including the inability to extinguish the fire with extinguishers that would have easily put out a normal fire, the authorities still insist it was not a Hybrid or an EV.
    Basically, they will tell any story to support the narrative.

    • @davidwall8954
      @davidwall8954 Місяць тому

      Nonsense - you are perpetuating false information. It was a diesel Range Rover, as confirmed by BOTH the owner and the fire investigation. Do you REALLY think the owner didn't know what they were driving?

    • @williams4434
      @williams4434 Місяць тому +2

      @@davidwall8954 It was an ev, owner has obviously been coerced with coinage

    • @bobdylan7120
      @bobdylan7120 Місяць тому

      @@davidwall8954 Wow, do you really think that diesel Range Rover fires start under the passenger's seat, that diesel fires burn with a bright white jet of flame, that normal fire extinguishers can't put it out, that it's normal to instantly remove the vehicle's details from the DVLA website so nobody can independently check the vehicle type. If you believe all that I've got a bridge in London and a tall tower in Paris I can sell you at a bargain price!

  • @jessicaandtrains7768
    @jessicaandtrains7768 Місяць тому +6

    Sense at last.
    I thank them for keeping us safe from EVs

  • @serenepeacefulrelaxingmusi3874
    @serenepeacefulrelaxingmusi3874 Місяць тому +6

    Think you for keep us up to date with information relevant to this industry. I will never own one.

  • @greggbaker7120
    @greggbaker7120 Місяць тому +7

    There Must be many peoples, Who Never hear, anything, against, the idea, of EVs.
    I can't imagine, how this can be so.

  • @davidhancock91
    @davidhancock91 Місяць тому +10

    We have 84 units in our block. The Body Corp are weighing up how to deal with our underground car park.
    There is an insurance issue. I think they will eventually make the tough decision to ban EVs like they have for E Bikes and scooters.
    Why should the other owners pay extra premiums to cover people’s higher fire riskEVs?
    The real problem is the risk of a catastrophic Fire.

    • @fredEVOIX
      @fredEVOIX Місяць тому +1

      high temperature fires isn't it what brought down two towers ?

  • @CMDRSweeper
    @CMDRSweeper Місяць тому +7

    The one argument that is missed is the fire contribution factor of EVs.
    They do not have to even be responsible for the fire, just being present in a car park is bad enough as once the fire reaches them, you get a lot more intense fire that can't be extinguished as it produces its own oxygen.
    While even a tank of good ole diesel or gasoline, if it doesn't get an oxygen supply, will not contribute.

  • @ivortoad
    @ivortoad Місяць тому +7

    Exactly. There shouldn't be Any EV fires given the potential consequences.

  • @weejim48
    @weejim48 Місяць тому +12

    Anyone that buys an EV is either just a show off with more money than sense or stupid. Why would anyone buy an overpriced car with limited range , massive depreciation and with the potential to catch fire and burn not only your house down but melt the ground it’s parked on . The temperatures that they mention when these things catch fire is hot enough to melt rocks into glass ( providing there’s enough silica ). Very good informative video. 👍👍

    • @bruiser6479
      @bruiser6479 Місяць тому

      I disagree. They are just as likely to have more money than sense AND are also stupid.

    • @paulsimpson8990
      @paulsimpson8990 Місяць тому

      Really? So someone who drives a lot and buys and ev to save $20k in petrol and maintenance is a show off? Yet the guy posting this video drives around in convertible Mercedes Benz’s, Porsche boxers is not a show off? 😂😂😂😂 you have a very strange perspective

  • @lesliejacobs9767
    @lesliejacobs9767 Місяць тому +3

    USA here - at least you guys have a free press, in this country a report like that would have been buried. I live in a rural area and charging stations are mostly nonexistent, however when I have seen them in parking garages in cities, they are without exception located deep in the parking garage, right next to the elevators and doorways into the buildings.

    • @singmysong1167
      @singmysong1167 Місяць тому

      I don't trust parking next to them. When shopping at the grocery store, I try to park towards the back of the parking lot, hopefully avoiding an EV pulling up beside me. Way inconvenient for my 69 years, but safer.
      --Miss Rose from Texas
      10:29

  • @rolandsingh
    @rolandsingh Місяць тому +3

    Every Statement in this Excellent Video is one hundred percent, true. Thanks Very Much, MGuy, Australia ❣
    At the present time, it is a Fact, that these 'B.E.Vs' are EXTREMELY dangerous. Roland Singh, Canada 🇨🇦

  • @steventurner8428
    @steventurner8428 Місяць тому +6

    If any one else out there has had to "TRY" and park a car in the underground park at the "NEW" Royal Adelaide Hospital, They will unfortunately know just how SMALL and poorly planed it is. I lost my car for an hour the first time I had to go there. They will also know just how impossible it would be to get adequate fire equipment into one of the many levels. Over head sprinklers will not suppress a lithium fire. In the event of a under hospital fire many cars will be trapped to burn along with what ever started it. There are I believe only two entry/exits on opposite sides ensuring adequate air flow for a fire.

    • @mellarner8253
      @mellarner8253 Місяць тому +1

      The thing about an EV fire is they do not need any air at all, they generate huge amounts of it all by their own

  • @offcenterforge1098
    @offcenterforge1098 Місяць тому +5

    I would just like to mention that the forge welding temperature for high carbon steel, used to make damascus is between 1,700 and 2,000 degrees Fahrenheit

    • @snowbert2650
      @snowbert2650 Місяць тому +1

      The melting point is app 2700 F

  • @jamesrader3329
    @jamesrader3329 Місяць тому +4

    Id like to see these people try and put out a EV vehicle fire with only 500 gallons of water.

  • @douglaswasley1461
    @douglaswasley1461 Місяць тому +2

    Driving around my local area , I saw a sign in a driveway "do not park an EV on my driveway"

  • @andrewk5336
    @andrewk5336 Місяць тому +4

    StacheD training is a very important YT channel reference for fire management... Not just EV's but I think that it will have DATA you need...
    Luton Airport was a Hybrid... We never hear any follow up on this, it seems like the owner tried to put out the fire in the car park before heading off for his flight...

    • @Tekwyzard
      @Tekwyzard Місяць тому +2

      He actually did a video on the Luton Airport fire, completely glossed everything over, followed the narrative to a 'T', even didn't show the video of the initial stages of the fire, with the glorious and all too recognisable flame thrower effect and typical white smoke/vapour, versus the few stills he used from later, of blacker smoke and gentler, yellower flame. It was the first video of his where I doubted his integrity and experience. It did highlight though, that our 'powers that be' are going to continue to refer to hybrid vehicles as whatever variety of I.C.E., which I suppose they are, but it hides the very dangerous elephant in the room.

  • @Darren51283
    @Darren51283 Місяць тому +4

    The comparison of incidences, ICE-fires-to-EV-fires, reminds me of the faulty argument commonly put forth by pit bull advocates wherein they state that other breeds bite just as often as pit bulls but what they fail to take into account is that bites from other breeds, such as poodles, are not life altering/threatening in the same way as bites involving pit bulls are - just ask any plastic surgeon ... or mortician.

  • @chrissmith4022
    @chrissmith4022 Місяць тому +2

    NHS already struggling now forced to waste precious funds on EV fire mitigation and not desperate patients who have been waiting years for treatment 😳🙄

  • @gibotom1718
    @gibotom1718 Місяць тому +4

    I'm not convinced that IC cars are more likely to catch fire. So far I haven't seen any detailed comparison between the two considering age and condition of the cars. So far most of EVs are nearly brand new, unmodified and never damaged nor repaired. I think we need proper data before making those definitive statements.

  • @user-xq6me6pd7q
    @user-xq6me6pd7q Місяць тому +9

    Any sprinkler for EV's need to be 360 degree and from below as well.

  • @rumpoh8039
    @rumpoh8039 Місяць тому +11

    DEVIL LIKES FIRE.

  • @RoverIAC
    @RoverIAC Місяць тому +2

    Two years ago I said that body corporates will ban EV home charging. I'm sticking with that prediction.

  • @LastOnSunday
    @LastOnSunday Місяць тому +4

    Imagine being so incensed that he couldn't park his EV in a certain section of a hospital carpark, but is fine with waiting 5 years for an appointment for his child?

    • @davidvanderklauw
      @davidvanderklauw Місяць тому

      LOL

    • @porkbelly872
      @porkbelly872 Місяць тому

      Could've got himself a regular, cheaper ICE car and used the savings to pay for a private doctor/specialist.
      I don't think a mentally sane parent would let his child be in discomfort/suffer for 5 years before seeing a doctor.
      Has he considered that if his kid can't make it on the day of the appointment, he will need to reschedule and be forced to wait for another 5 years? (don't laugh - the public healthcare system has turned into an absolute shitshow.)

  • @jasonz7788
    @jasonz7788 Місяць тому +5

    Bravo

  • @juliancaston9598
    @juliancaston9598 Місяць тому +5

    An ev fire is like a lit oxyacetylene welding torch as you're adding oxygen to intensifying the heat of the flame to enable a welding process to be carried out ..hence the buckling of the steel structure of the car park .

  • @ladybug591
    @ladybug591 Місяць тому +2

    Well said, My Good Guy. I am armed with counter arguments now. Regards to all.

  • @paulorchard7960
    @paulorchard7960 Місяць тому +2

    Been driving since the 70s, had 2 ice vehicles fire up on the road, both were british made fords with the same 2lt overhead cam engine, one an escort the other a cortina! Both fires were put out by me smothering them with cloth or dirt, no fire brigade in either case!

  • @hugobloemers4425
    @hugobloemers4425 Місяць тому +4

    We where in Berlin this weekend and they have banned all EV scooters from all public transport as of May this year, as fire protection measure.

    • @singmysong1167
      @singmysong1167 Місяць тому

      What about e-bikes...were they banned also?

    • @hugobloemers4425
      @hugobloemers4425 Місяць тому +1

      @@singmysong1167 I was actually surprised by that, not explicitly. What was written is "All types of electrical scooters".

    • @singmysong1167
      @singmysong1167 Місяць тому

      @@hugobloemers4425 interesting

  • @thehairygolfer
    @thehairygolfer Місяць тому +5

    Just wait until all those £10,000 cars go on sale. That should swing the balance.

  • @gregpodmore2850
    @gregpodmore2850 Місяць тому +2

    G'Day. Thanks for sharing this video. 🙌.👍👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

  • @stevec3526
    @stevec3526 Місяць тому +2

    A few months back a Hummer EV was involved with a road rage situation. The Hummer burned fo hours on I-5 in downtown Seattle. A day later the wreck caught fire again.

  • @jimmymac4559
    @jimmymac4559 Місяць тому +3

    I’m in the Fire Protection business in regards to sprinkler systems. There is no sprinkler system that will put out an EV fire. But systems can be installed at the minimum to cool down the area and slow the spread long enough for people to escape. But these systems will require much larger pipe which will probably lower the maximum height for vehicles that can enter. In colder regions it’s even more difficult to install these systems. Probably requiring preaction systems, with significantly larger pipe that will slow the delivery of the water to the sprinklers, which may require more preaction valves in smaller zones. Now the snow ball is rolling, demanding larger pumps, more air compressors, larger rooms to place all of the extra equipment in. You can imagine the costs.

    • @erroneouscode
      @erroneouscode Місяць тому +1

      Another gravy train created to jump on.

    • @jimmymac4559
      @jimmymac4559 Місяць тому

      @@erroneouscode not really. People don’t like paying extra for fire protection. It’s not something tangible they understand. People like to flush a toilet in a well lit and temperature controlled bathroom. Maybe have an attractive building. Most people and businesses are repulsed by the cost and necessity of sprinkler systems. So doing anything extra is a non starter. You’ll find parking garages will buy a sign keeping EVs out instead.

  • @Masonic1016
    @Masonic1016 Місяць тому +7

    The Hospital probably decided to comply with the recommendations from the local Fire Service, rather than ignore it, as to do so would almost certainly invalidate their Public Liability Insurance.
    Whether or not the recommendation is 'misinformation' or even inaccurate, the NHS are justified in complying with it.

    • @Luka_3D
      @Luka_3D Місяць тому

      Fire Services are the least worried about ev fires because they actually took the time to understand how to tackle the fires.

  • @Ryan_Harkin
    @Ryan_Harkin Місяць тому +1

    I love how they totally miss the point of the argument in their fight to beat the so-called misinformation.

  • @jopalmer777
    @jopalmer777 Місяць тому +2

    There's an undercover shopping centre carpark in Brisbane that has EV charging stations, but only 1 shared entrance/exit ramp. It's a ridiculous design flaw that's just tempting fate!

  • @Aliens_Gonna_Get_Ya
    @Aliens_Gonna_Get_Ya Місяць тому +20

    EV’s 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @johnm838
      @johnm838 Місяць тому +3

      Ev's are so hot right now that many are bursting into flames.

    • @Aliens_Gonna_Get_Ya
      @Aliens_Gonna_Get_Ya Місяць тому

      @@johnm838 💯 absolutely!!! 🔥🔥🔥🤣🤣🤣