PVY Libon Review: A GREAT City E-Bike Hindered by a Motor ISSUE?

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  • Опубліковано 3 чер 2024
  • ✔️ PVY Libon Long-Range E-Bike: 👉 geni.us/PVY-Libon
    It's been close to two months since I have the PVY Libon: a beautiful folding e-bike promising remarkable range and quite decent feature pack at a super-tempting price!
    As usual - I've put the bike under my usual kind of thorough testing, and have unfortunately stumbled accross some alarming facts. There have been certain issues related to the motor, and the way PVY have addressed these are somewhat worrying.
    I have no clarity whether it is about a specific batch, or affecting only a small amount of units.
    The rest of the bike is for sure well designed and deserves your attention! So check out everything that I've discovered about it.
    #PVY #libon #ebike
    00:00 - Intro
    00:41 - Price, similar models
    01:32 - Unboxing & specs
    04:34 - Tech highlights
    06:12 - The "Motor" issue
    07:55 - Performance & tests
    10:08 - Display & config
    10:52 - Drawbacks & conclusion
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  • @RobWildenbeest
    @RobWildenbeest 26 днів тому +4

    Very comprehensive review, thank you for your work.
    I previously purchased a Z20 PLUS from PVY,
    Great shopping experience, although I encountered a little problem,
    But customer support is always very responsive and helps me out.
    So my impression of PVY is pretty good.
    I've also been eyeing the Libon and thinking about buying one for my wife,
    Your video is very real and not all praise. This is what I want to see.
    I believe that no product is 100% perfect,
    I will continue to pay attention to this model,
    When the goods arrive and these problems are resolved,
    I would buy one.🤝

    • @TechMishka
      @TechMishka  25 днів тому

      Thanks for the comment, Rob. I also have had great experience with the previous PVY bike that I've had. Fingers crossed that no one else will be affected.

  • @PrometheusDrago
    @PrometheusDrago 26 днів тому +3

    Great video Michael! Thanks for posting an actually useful review that demonstrates the positives and perhaps more importantly, the negatives of these cheaper ebikes. Too many UA-camrs are biased in their reviews and don't properly test the bikes or expose their flaws before gushing praise on the product, often because the manufacturer has sent them the bike for free.

    • @TechMishka
      @TechMishka  26 днів тому +2

      I feel that the UA-cam community is often blamed for biases, and for sure such kind of things exist. But ... If we think about the regular media that most people trust... I can assure you that (undisclosed) conflicts of interest are way more shocking.
      Many folks are rushing their videos because of the algorithm. Some are simply careless. Some - with very low ethics standards. I try to be as transparent as possible, and as helpful as possible. And am really glad to see quality comments like yours - it is the best kind of reward. ♥️
      As for PVY - I hope they will step up.their game with quality control and communication.

    • @PrometheusDrago
      @PrometheusDrago 25 днів тому

      @@TechMishka For sure this is an issue on regular media too. Keep up the great work! 😀

  • @ivovass195
    @ivovass195 25 днів тому +3

    This bike promises plenty, 1500euro Indiegogo campaign for the Dual battery at 18.5kg is an interesting proposition but it looks pny still has some quality control to improve thus making, at least, the initial batches a bit risky investment. Thanks for letting us know of your experience and drawbacks

    • @TechMishka
      @TechMishka  25 днів тому

      Very well agreed. PVY have a lot of good potential if they prioritize honesty.

  • @marcin_karwinski
    @marcin_karwinski 3 дні тому

    Weird thing is the indiegogo campaign list a single 50Nm engine, only for EU restricted to 250W by default with international variant supposedly derestricted, yet the same product on PVY page has 2 completely different engines listed - CE 37Nm 250W, International 50Nm 500W... the EU also gets the CE stickers/stamps for power compliance, the international derestricted lacks those... at least that's what PVY support stated when I enquired about it (totally different engines, not just electric/software reign-in for different markets with accompanying engine plaques). So, in theory, the reviewers received the crowd funding variant that had more powerful engine from International variant only limited software-wise to 250W continuous power delivery, while orders from PVY now get separate running gear depending on version chosen in the web shop...

    • @TechMishka
      @TechMishka  2 дні тому

      You say it. Too many questions raised and too few answers.
      After I discovered the motor thing, PVY tried to make me not releasing the video.
      Based on all the delays and the changes in the specs, I feel that they have acknowledged that there is an issue and hopefully pulled back the first batches so that they put proper motors. Just a guess though.

  • @nesliving89
    @nesliving89 24 дні тому

    Hi, very impressive review! I want to ask you what you were thinking about choosing the pvy libon or engwe P20 ? It will be mostly used for summer vacations in the city, while not having at garage where to keep the bike I want to be able to carry the bike in to the apartment when needed.
    What do you recommend me ?
    Thank you.

    • @TechMishka
      @TechMishka  23 дні тому +1

      I was about to keep the P20 if it had suspension. The review about it is ready, and will likely go live in 2-3 days. Send me a note (email) if you would like to see it in advance.
      The PVY bike is more advanced about some features, but the Engwe model feels more polished. Both offer very similar riding experience. PVY Libon was perhaps somewhat more comfortable.

  • @ozgur284
    @ozgur284 22 дні тому +2

    Quite fair review, thanks

  • @MDKS_
    @MDKS_ 24 дні тому +1

    hm. quality control on the indigo releases I suppose , the hope here is that somebody chimes in that bought direct & current releases QC is addresed. I mean, PVY r shipping direct to retail at the time of writing
    *was pulling the trigger todays date but yeah no,
    -quality control on a 250w suggesting 50nm /25-30kph -
    sounds potentially underpowered/ overclocked ?! who knows ?!
    idk. hopefully somebody chimes in
    Thank for the review
    ✌️

    • @TechMishka
      @TechMishka  24 дні тому +1

      👍👍 We'll wait and see. PVY are confident that their motors are totally fine. I feel that there will be problems in the coming months. My comments in their Facebook page got censored too 😔

  • @GiuseppeMinisteriofswing
    @GiuseppeMinisteriofswing 11 днів тому

    Can you turn on the lights using the bike battery or the light has its own battery?

    • @TechMishka
      @TechMishka  10 днів тому +1

      It uses the bike's battery

    • @GiuseppeMinisteriofswing
      @GiuseppeMinisteriofswing 10 днів тому

      @@TechMishka I see, thanks for the answer and the review! Keep on with the great work

  • @setas1616
    @setas1616 26 днів тому

    tanks for videos❤❤

  • @kiIIamaim
    @kiIIamaim 26 днів тому +1

    Great video. I love the labels on the numbers.

  • @marlls1989
    @marlls1989 23 дні тому +1

    Glad to have cancelled my pvy order and decided to go with the ado air 20 pro instead

    • @TechMishka
      @TechMishka  23 дні тому +1

      👍👍👍 I feel that you made a good choice.

    • @ismaenbici
      @ismaenbici 21 день тому

      I also hesitate between "PVY Libon" and "ADO Air 20 Pro", both are new and there is hardly any user feedback.

    • @marlls1989
      @marlls1989 14 днів тому

      @@ismaenbici I received my ado 20 pro, lovely bike, no complains whatsoever so far… I just needed to tight the seat post and I will go to a bike shop to align the brake pads.
      My commute that used to take me 40 minutes by foot+metro, now takes me 20 minutes by bike alone. The automatic gear change is brilliant and the motor is strong. And I am a bit overweight, so the load I put on it is perhaps a bit over the weight limits on the specs, even so the motor handles me fine uphill without overheating.
      It helps that the gear allow a better transfer of power from the pedal to the wheel at high speed

    • @ivnovikk7
      @ivnovikk7 11 днів тому

      @@marlls1989 But it is limited to 25kmh? No way to unlimit? Also no throttle, right?

  • @howardlam6181
    @howardlam6181 6 днів тому

    Bafang motors definitely are more reliable at this moment.

  • @moakymestel4433
    @moakymestel4433 12 днів тому

    Hi, Thanks for the very great review.
    I really think about to buy this bike, in comparison with Fiido D11 or x
    But I have 4 question what I couldn't figure out in your review, maybe you can answer this.
    - Because of the weight. The 16kg was without second Akku, but with the Seat Akku?
    - How is the peddal frequency when you drive around 20km/h. Ok or already super high?
    - Small climbs (with around 5minutes) shouldn't be a problem?
    - Is it also easy posiible to remove the Seat Akku
    Cheers Marc

    • @TechMishka
      @TechMishka  12 днів тому +1

      I'd stay away from Fiido because if their horrendous support.
      The weight is 18.5 with 2 batteries.
      Pedaling is OK at 20km/h. At 25 it is a bit weird.
      Climbing is fine even for prolonged time if they have fixed the minor issue that I had with my motor.
      You cannot remove the seat battery.