The lag of an app must not be a bad thing IMO: if someday the manufacturer doesn't support the app anymore or is even bankrupt, you may run into problems. Just an easy bike with all the necessary core features
1100euro it's ok price for the spec but currently sold out on their website. No front suspension is probably the main drawback for me but if it was included the price would be even higher. Good stuff otherwise
Hello mate, I just received mine earlier today (bought it mostly based on your review, so thanks!). I'm having a bit of trouble with it though. The max speed is set to 22km/h, and I can't get the throttle to work past the 5km/h mark. I've tried the "hold the brake and throttle for 10 seconds" method, but it doesn't seem to do anything. Any idea how to fix that and set the speed to 25km/h with a working throttle? Any advice is appreciated, thanks!
Hello Michael! Great review, as always! Because you tested multiple e bikes I believe you have more knowledge than me when it comes to buying a new e bike. I have a Pvy Z20 Plus but I am planning to change it just because it’s on the heavier side , otherwise it’s a great bike. I was looking into Pvy LIBON, Ado Air 20 and ENGWE P20. In my opinion PVY are great when it comes to e bikes so the winner would be LIBON, but I am so scared about that motor :). That is my only thing that is keeping me away from purchasing it. On their website it says that they are out of stock until early August. I was thinking maybe to wait until they are available and hopefully the motor issue is being fixed but also the price , right now, for the LIBON is amazing compared to the full price of €2400. A very long message but I was wondering what would you do if you were in my situation? And which bike you think is better? Thanks and have a wonderful day!
The Libon will never ever cost 2400. It.is ridiculous that they even mention it. In the end - it is an entry level Chinese foldable ebike. It is good, but it is a gamble with the motor. Hopefully they fixed the issue for good. I feel that at the moment Ado are far ahead in terms of design and support. Shorter range of the bike though. If I had to buy a bike myself - I'll make sure to have one via Amazon or at least pay with Paypal, so that I have some level of protection at least.
I am not sure if you covered this, so might as well ask here 🙂 With no gear shifter, do I then have to do a spinning class to maintain 25km/h with low or no assistance or is there some form of internal gearing? I am strongly considering buying this bike, but faster pedaling, would mean I would have to change the whole way I bike and that might not be feasible. But other than that, very nice review 🙂
Hey, thanks for the question - an excellent one. You can ride the bike as a conventional bike and the motor has almost no resistance. Up to 25km/h you may get support from the pedal assistance. Once you go beyond 25im/h, you are on your own.
@@TechMishka: I believe that the main question is what cadence you need to keep up with in order to maintain 25 kph. Up to 80/min would be acceptable, if you have to spin 90 rpm to maintain a speed of 25 kph that would be unacceptable. Do you perhaps have a reference figure available? Thanks in advance.
@@andersoberg3175 You can activate the throttle with max speed (20mph) easily, just go into the settings menu, only press and hold the ^ button for 15 seconds, let go then press and hold the SET button for a few seconds until it goes back to the home screen. Test the throttle, it should now be unlocked and you can ride around in full electric mode with just the throttle. My written review of this will be up soon on Neowin and it's really rather amusingly powerful riding around with just the throttle. Battery consumption is 1bar every 10 miles or so, so 50 miles on a full charge should not be an issue. In unlocked throttle mode, the drive mode 1,2,3 doesn't matter, the mode only affects pedal assistance, throttle is always "analogue" in that sense.
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The lag of an app must not be a bad thing IMO: if someday the manufacturer doesn't support the app anymore or is even bankrupt, you may run into problems. Just an easy bike with all the necessary core features
Absolutely correct. Plus - no data that someone can process.
1100euro it's ok price for the spec but currently sold out on their website. No front suspension is probably the main drawback for me but if it was included the price would be even higher. Good stuff otherwise
Yeah, I also noticed it is out of stock, but there seem to be available units on Geekbuying. I really like this new display
Hello mate, I just received mine earlier today (bought it mostly based on your review, so thanks!). I'm having a bit of trouble with it though. The max speed is set to 22km/h, and I can't get the throttle to work past the 5km/h mark. I've tried the "hold the brake and throttle for 10 seconds" method, but it doesn't seem to do anything. Any idea how to fix that and set the speed to 25km/h with a working throttle? Any advice is appreciated, thanks!
There should be a way to unlock this. Check with their support
@@TechMishka unlocking everything is very simple on this bike and no app needed.
Hello Michael! Great review, as always! Because you tested multiple e bikes I believe you have more knowledge than me when it comes to buying a new e bike. I have a Pvy Z20 Plus but I am planning to change it just because it’s on the heavier side , otherwise it’s a great bike. I was looking into Pvy LIBON, Ado Air 20 and ENGWE P20. In my opinion PVY are great when it comes to e bikes so the winner would be LIBON, but I am so scared about that motor :). That is my only thing that is keeping me away from purchasing it. On their website it says that they are out of stock until early August. I was thinking maybe to wait until they are available and hopefully the motor issue is being fixed but also the price , right now, for the LIBON is amazing compared to the full price of €2400. A very long message but I was wondering what would you do if you were in my situation? And which bike you think is better? Thanks and have a wonderful day!
The Libon will never ever cost 2400. It.is ridiculous that they even mention it. In the end - it is an entry level Chinese foldable ebike. It is good, but it is a gamble with the motor. Hopefully they fixed the issue for good.
I feel that at the moment Ado are far ahead in terms of design and support. Shorter range of the bike though.
If I had to buy a bike myself - I'll make sure to have one via Amazon or at least pay with Paypal, so that I have some level of protection at least.
no app and no suspension is a major +.
nothing to go out of support and nothing that breaks.
Indeed!
I am not sure if you covered this, so might as well ask here 🙂 With no gear shifter, do I then have to do a spinning class to maintain 25km/h with low or no assistance or is there some form of internal gearing? I am strongly considering buying this bike, but faster pedaling, would mean I would have to change the whole way I bike and that might not be feasible.
But other than that, very nice review 🙂
Hey, thanks for the question - an excellent one.
You can ride the bike as a conventional bike and the motor has almost no resistance. Up to 25km/h you may get support from the pedal assistance. Once you go beyond 25im/h, you are on your own.
@@TechMishka: I believe that the main question is what cadence you need to keep up with in order to maintain 25 kph. Up to 80/min would be acceptable, if you have to spin 90 rpm to maintain a speed of 25 kph that would be unacceptable.
Do you perhaps have a reference figure available?
Thanks in advance.
is there a speed unlock for the EU version for offroading?
I believe there is one. Message Engwe's support, they should be able to help
Difficult to adjust Rear brakes🤐
You may ask for help in a bike repair shop.
Is it good for 6 foot person?
Yeah
Any idea how you can get the throttle activated please?
I think I may have an idea - please send me an email so that I can check and write you back
@@TechMishkaAny news about throttle?
@@andersoberg3175 scam due too uk restrictions i bet
@@andersoberg3175 You can activate the throttle with max speed (20mph) easily, just go into the settings menu, only press and hold the ^ button for 15 seconds, let go then press and hold the SET button for a few seconds until it goes back to the home screen. Test the throttle, it should now be unlocked and you can ride around in full electric mode with just the throttle.
My written review of this will be up soon on Neowin and it's really rather amusingly powerful riding around with just the throttle. Battery consumption is 1bar every 10 miles or so, so 50 miles on a full charge should not be an issue.
In unlocked throttle mode, the drive mode 1,2,3 doesn't matter, the mode only affects pedal assistance, throttle is always "analogue" in that sense.
42Mn non 38
Good catch