Jon, another great video. If we could all just walk 50 ft from the roadway it wouldn't be necessary to have the sled...it is an end to a means...it takes u back to those places that are remote...its just the nature of the north and how rugged it is...im happy for you and you have tremendous perseverance...you will do just fine with that sled. 😊
Also...you have all the back country and survival experience...you had that before you bought the snowmobile...that is not usually how it is done...u did it right!
Damn man, you went through hell and back. Equipment malfunctions can really put you down. I might have just given up and curled up in the slush beside the snowmobile and accepted my fate! You're a trooper. I love trips like this because every other trip in comparison is the best trip ever. Happy you kept the sled. I'll pick one up too and we can go drink 10 15 swirly pops and rip around (I know that's your kinda thing)
Sure was hell and back id say so too you guys are both great love watching you both on your adventures in the beautiful back country keep on killing it guys
Hahaha thanks man, the curl up and die option was pretty tempting as the night wore on. Oh u betcha bud, nothin like breathing those fumes, the deafening combustion, and just going fer a rip 🙅♂️
One of the things I really like about your content is you aren't afraid to show the bad as well as the good. Anyone who spends time in nature knows that things like this can happen and there's always a lesson to be learned. Sometimes trips aren't always rainbows and butterflies - sometimes it's trudging through mud or dealing with a breakdown in equipment but you always keep a positive attitude. Kudos and thanks for sharing!
This is basically my worst nightmare. I too have an older sled, limited mechanical capabilities and a thirst for adventure, but not this kind of adventure! Thanks for sharing your experience in such an authentic way. One of your gifts as a storyteller is to share your frustrations as gracefully as you share your successes. I thoroughly enjoyed this video.
There’s nothing wrong with having a machine that can aid you in your journeys. One way of looking at it is that the snowmobile will save you time and energy in your winter adventures. Energy and time that can be better spent at your destination. Love your vids man.
Much appreciated Saul :) That's a good way of putting it. I've since been back to this camp on foot, 8km haul in and 8km out. Ends up taking up much of the first and last day
For the adventures you go on the Tundra you purchased is probally the best sled you could have gotten. Trappers to this day still prefer the old tundra over the newer machines due to lightweight and simplicity of the machine. Hindsight is always 20/20 but the sled should have been looked over first and maintenance done before the 1st adventure. This would have been avoided with a breakdown. Now moving forward machine is all ready for the backwoods. Do not let this outcome discourage you from using a sled. They are a great tool. I use mine mostly for ice fishing to places that are just to far to walk too . Things to carry extra spark plugs, drivebelt. a small toolkit with wrenches and sockets. Enjoy your sled. Looks in great shape.
I know I should be wearing a helmet but was looking for a used one and was putt-putting along very slowly in the meantime. Here's the info on the sled from Paul if you're into this stuff: TUNDRA INITIAL DIAGNOSIS Fuel line to carburetor had a hole in it. Drive belt was destroyed Primary clutch had failed, internal parts of the clutch were worn to the point of failure. Broken clutch parts and belt debris covered the entire engine compartment. The engine fan shroud was missing which was critical for air flow for cooling the fan cooled engine. REPAIR Replaced fuel line, fuel pump and vacuum line. Replaced primary clutch with working used clutch. Sourced a used fan shroud and installed. New belt. New spark plug. Greased all suspension components. Still needs a new throttle cable and carburetor then tuned.
A hard lesson for a new sledder but with it tuned up and mechanically sound, it should be a great sled for you going forward. Always carry extra spark plugs and a belt. Invest in a good new helmet. They only have a 10 year life span I believe. There should be a tag on the inside of the helmet. Your head is worth more than saving a few bucks is what I was told years ago. Stay safe! Put together a sled survival kit with the plugs, belt, nuts and bolts, tow strap and whatever ever else you think you might need. Or keep the simple style we have come to enjoy in your videos. Glad to see you are going to keep the sled.
Just curious, was the crank seal bad in the tundra? Me and my son were watching and he was thinking the red stuff could be gasket maker someone used, to try a cheap repair on the seal, and it just blew out, which would cause the engine run really bad and have no power.
In all reality as long as the fuel gets mixed properly you shouldn't have much else to worry about with that machine for a long time once those things are done. Most of us who use snow machines grew up on them and learned these lessons as kids and closer to home. There is a curve for you to go through of course, like anything else, but once you've learned a bit and have the machine sorted they can be an excellent tool. You may even want to discuss removing the oil injection system with your mechanic to eliminate a possible problem in the future. You would just have to mix the fuel yourself which is very easy.
Make a list of stuff for summer, maybe flush the fuel tank if they didn’t do it when you redid the lines. You got good buddies that can help you identify what to do but think about your chaincase, and the bearings. Once you have gone over everything yourself your confidence will soar! When you said you were getting rid of it I was disappointed, glad you kept it.
I also struggle with using machines (motorboat) to take me to places that would otherwise take hours to reach. Hats off to guys like you who travel almost exclusively through the wilderness under your own power rather than using noisy, modern machinery! Like you discovered, they're handy when they run good, but when they don't, they can quickly become a liability. Thanks for another great video! I always enjoy watching them!
Nice video, At least you have buddies to teach you on snowmobile things. I got tired of dragging flip over ice fishing huts on snow and ice, so I bought a used snowmobile to do that part. It is just an easier way to do what you like and farther out.
I can identify with what went wrong in your recent video. Quite a few years ago in mid-January in Northern Minnesota, my wife and I were pulled in a sleigh behind another couple with a snowmobile. It broke down in the middle of nowhere late on a Sunday afternoon. It was getting colder and sunlight was fading. Very fortunate for us, it started up again and we made it back okay. It had been a very helpless feeling at the time. What we saw in your misfortune here was that above all, you remained calm and still kept filming during the whole ordeal. That deserves a real "tip of the hat" to you. That is very impressive. Although your plans were altered, it was still a very interesting video to see. We like watching them all, and that includes those in which you pair up with Xander. Well done.
I found your channel a few months ago, and I think you guys have the best backcountry/paddling/exploring channel on UA-cam. I just love your videos, and watching them has given me so much inspiration to do more backcountry trips myself. I've done a couple, but not for a few years, and now I can't wait for spring and warmer weather to arrive so I can get outdoors again. Your style of filmmaking is awesome, and I appreciate how much respect you show for the natural world and everything in it. And also how many helpful tips you share in your videos. I've learned so much from them. Best wishes to you both, and I hope 2022 is a great year for you guys.
Always have to have ( confidence ) in your (maintenance) …of your snowmachine. ( snowmobile )The more you learn about it the better you will feel. I have used one my whole life I’m 55 and I’ve only broke down one time and it resulted in my lack of maintenance….Good camping,fishing ,good videos have fun enjoy be safe.
That which doesn't annoy the heck out of you will make you stronger, you'll learn from this. Bravo to your strength in not pushing it further into the slush. 😊
As a long time snowmobiler my first thought when saw your thumbnail was this is going to be painful. And watching you struggle with your sled it just made me feel very anxious. We never ride alone. (that way more of us are miserable) But I have to say when we would get to an area away from other sleds and turn them off the shear stillness and calm is amazing. I'm pretty sure that's one of many reasons why I enjoy your videos so much.
Thanks so much Sue :) Never riding alone is the way to go...I'll have to do it sometimes, but I don't think I'll ever ride alone on a lake again unless there's a defined trail. Better to stick to the overland trails when solo
I share the same frustrations with snowmobiles. They have given me a lot of fun and adventure as i owned multiple sleds for 20 yrs but have had them fail multiple times too and a frozen solid track from slush too. I find joy like you in knowing my limits and know that im able to get out on my own without relying on machinery. Great video i felt bad for you but it also felt like i relived some of those moments you went through. Best to sell it and move on is what i did. A machine sitting for 9 months of the yr only for a few times use a yr and then to have to sweat your but off to just get the thing working….. oh yea your story hits close to home. I just have to figure out how to lighten up my sleigh load as pulling by hand in powder is not fun either but rewarding thats for sure.
Snowmobiles can be a full-time hobby by themselves, but once you get them dialed in and you get to know your machine better you learn its limitations as well. Definitely worth it, it can get you into places few people get to see. Love the videos, and keep your head up.
I agree that a snowmobile is a useful tool in the bush. Great post - I like the frankness and fact that you showed the difficulties and challenges that one often encounters in the bush. Have been in similar circumstances many times myself and every one has been a learning experience. Thanks for sharing.
I feel the same about snowmobiles, it is a like/hate relationship. I find in one way they are helpful and convenient but when stuff goes wrong they are really stressful. I do hate the noise but if it is a trip to and from could probably put up with it for the short term. I could feel your stress that first day. All worked out in the end and at least the machine is working properly now. Thanks for sharing. :) :)
Glad you're safe Jon. I also owned an old tundra for several years (needed it to pull my hut out onto Simcoe) but when I stopped putting a hut out (I now walk everywhere, pulling a sleigh) I sold it and never looked back. When you get to be 58 years old and you think nothing of pulling a sleigh 10 plus km in a day, all the while hand auguring your own holes, it's a very satisfying feeling (he says, smugly). Plus, seven trips out on the ice and I haven't had to fish next to anyone! But I hear Simcoe is as busy as ever..... 😉
I am glad you came to the same conclusion I did watching this. This is not a failure but a learning experience that made you stronger and improved your servial skills. As well as reaffirmed who you are and how you like doing things. I am glad your not giving up on the sled just yet as well. It is a new tool in your arisnal like a canoe or kayak, all be it mechanized. Once you try it out a few more times and build on successes, I can see it being a vital tool to longer non solo trips exploring the North back country in winter.
Hey Jon tough go so thx for keeping it real!!! Great idea to keep the snowmobile and give it a shot another day. Mechanical issues are stressful your lucky to have such handy and kind friends. CHEERS!!!
Great video Jon. Snowmobiles are definitely their own set of problems, especially when alone and a new/unfamiliar machine. Don’t give up though. Sounds like you’re on the right track with repairs as noted in some of the other comments. Great video and content. Winter is too long without adventures. Cheers!
I agree with everything you said. In my opinion, if you rely on a snow machine then you need to be very mechanical. You need to bring along all the necessary tools, extra parts, etc. to fix it on the go. Mechanics like your friends are life savers. I am so jealous how they can diagnose, repair, improve mechanical items with ease.
Same here Derek...problems that I can understand are one thing, but problems that I completely lack the skills to solve (and don't even have signal to look it up) are quite exasperating. Thank goodness for the good guys who helped me
As always, enjoyed the video. I also own a snowmobile, snow shoes, and cross country skis. They all have their place. Maybe your buddies could run you through a snowmobile tech 101 course. Changing a spark plug, drive belt, or clearing a flooded engine can save the trip. Respect the slush, it is nasty stuff.
Good for you for trying something outside your comfort.. and the sled can expand your range.. It has allowed us to visit your camp so earned its keep already. Great little video sharing honestly your journey.. and welcome to the north where everyone helps each other so we can all thrive!! Love that you still find time to see and show natures beauty .. it’s what sets you apart as a creator!
Really appreciate that Barb! There's value to be found in it for sure....let's just hope that's it in the "cost" department for this season at least. Learned a lot though...there's been value there too
Friendly advice.... always turn the kill switch back on immediately after shutting it down, so it doesn't freeze. Carry a extra pull cord and belt. Plus some dry gas. Good luck young man.
Wow. My heart sank a few times on this one. Glad you were safe and thank you for posting with all your troubles and tribulations I'm sure it ain't all sunshine n lollipops out there.
Jon with a machine? I thought I'd never see it! We just had to rescue a broken down sled from a small brookie lake this weekend; always carry spare spark plugs.
Feel the pain of being stuck in snow can be so maddening and nothing breaks until you use it. The first time you do anything always some paying a stupid tax but better to challenge the process than never have a different experience. You are just braver than the rest to put it on UA-cam and that's why I appreciate this channel.
With every new experiences comes with new lessons to be learned for new opportunities. I hope you don't get discouraged from using your snowmobile. I can respect and appreciate your point of view of not wanting to use one in the first place. You're doing a very job making your winter camping videos. Keep up the Excellent work
I'm proud of you John you tried a new way of going about your tours in your camping trips I'm proud of you very in the long run you have accomplished a lot keep it going from Canada
We had snowmobiles back in the 60's & 70's and they could be unreliable at times. We always carried extra spark plugs and a belt. We ran into the overflow issue as well. But we learned to hug the shore,seemed to work for us. I've seen people get trucks stuck on the ice before, not good. Anyway nice recovery from your issues, and good friends to rescue your sled.
Yes those machines can be unpredictable even the newer ones. It’s an experience but I’m happy for you that you have buddies to assist in fixing it. Glad to hear Erin wud like one. With both having a machine when you are out is a little more comforting should something go south with one of them! Keep up the great videos! Enjoy them very much!!👍👍👍
I see someone has taken part of the fan shroud off of the motor. Without it will overheat the motor. That was not intended to be a free air sled. You might want to locate a good mechanic and find the rest of the fan shroud to make it original fan-cooled motor. Good videos keep
Live and learn that’s for sure. Big reason I don’t use a snowmobile is I’m not very mechanical. I wish I would have listened more during auto mechanics class in high school ! Thanks for sharing. Take care and stay safe.
We feel your pain Jon, we have snow shoed into our camp for years, we keep saying about a snow machine, like you I feel part of the enjoyment is the trek in. That said this past weekend was a 4.5 hour marathon , the snow was so deep we had to unload our pelicans to break trail and then return back to pick up the off loaded of supplies,-30c . Arriving at the cabin it was -20 c inside which took 5 hours of feeding the woodstove to bring it up to temperature inside. We questioned our sanity but, in the end it’s all part of the journey and we spent 3 glorious days in the wilderness. Sorry for your troubles but looks like you have your machine up and running now, all the best, thanks for sharing. Bob
Hi Guys!! Just found your channel last week and have been binge watching your videos!! I just wanted to give some suggestions for getting the Tundra out of slush. My father and I ran a trapline north of the Sault and have been in that situation with our Tundra. The first thing is that a old bumper jack (or farm jack) is invaluable for lifting the track out of the slush. Make sure you weld the base of the jack to the upright or you will lose it under the slush. Put the base down on the good ice and jack up the back end of the machine. Clean out as much slush as possible, then start the machine and run the track out. Pack down the snow beside where you got stuck and pull the track over on it. The second suggestion is that you put on your snowshoes and walk beside the machine while driving it to solid ground. Not having your weight on the machine seems to work wonders. Overall I like your adventures but I'm not so sure I would want to camp out in a tent in those temps!!
Only in Canada could you leave your sled by the trail and expect it to be there when you return. What I thought of while this was happening was how commendable it was of you set up the camera and documented the breakdowns as they occurred. That takes time and energy at the time when you have very little of both. I've been in that situation with my small children. Fortunately, I figured out how to get the machine started, but my poor judgement, relying on the sled, in that situation soured me on extended use of snow machines. I continued to use mine for short trips, winter picnics with the kids, with the same caveat as you. If I couldn't walk back to safety, I wasn't going at all.
That was one Hell of an adventure. But you kept at it and didn't let yourself be defeated.. I really love your content and thank you for all your hard work it doesn't go unnoticed and I know alot of people would agree it's appreciated 💯
The snowmobile is a useful tool in getting you to those portages that where impassable in the summer and clearing them for future canoe trips exploring more lost lakes
Sweet‼️✅ I know what I'm watching tonight. 👌 This reminded me for a few seconds... of that Survivor man. Where he takes apart a Machine... 💪👌. Great Vid. 🇨🇦
I have to say I was a bit surprised you got a snowmobile cause it didn't sound like you at all. Hope it works as a means to get you out in the wild areas you so love. Thx for sharing.
Recently tried my hand at winter hot tent camping. I tell people it was the hardest I've had to work to have fun. Love that you are honest about the hard work and exhaustion that goes into the adventure. Great video! Thanks for entertaining us!
Hahah thanks Kyle, the odd person calls it complaining...but as you know it's just stating the facts of the hot tenting experience (especially when alone). But it's all worth it when you can finally relax by the stove :)
Love the tundra's, they are great machines. But with any machine you should always pack a spare spark plug, belt and rope for the pull start and the tools to change them. An old pair of down hill skis bolted to the bottom of the toboggan greatly reduces the effort required to pull behind the snowmobile. Look forward to more snowmobile camping videos! Cheers.
Glad you are safe and got the sled sorted out John. We ran into a couple slush traps ourselves last weekend on our trip. Makes travelling pretty brutal.
Glad you kept it to try again. I can understand the dislike for the noise and smell, but it opens up whole new areas ( and new videos!). I think the key is going with someone. Though I understand your passion for solo camping, this is the safer alternative occasionally. Great video Jon. More proof your a tough nut to crack!
All I could think about as this started to unwind was. This must have been what Shackleton was thinking dam slush. Expected to see the lake crush the snowmobile in the slush and take it down. Then after being out all day not eating or drinking half frozen he comes back to camp and does a science experiment that pushed me over the top. Great video on what can go wrong and not to give up and have a backup plan. Your the guy I want in my plane when it goes down in the frozen north👍. Take care and carry on.
By the way, that is an excellent point you bring up about how you use a car. It could let you down but rarely does. And it gets you to places you would like to be
Funny this, I grew up North of Sudbury, everyone had snowmobiles. My father said things much like your quote of how you would rather hear the trickle of the stream and the crunch of the snow. Our family cross country skied through the deep bush, and that was my childhood. Great decision, the silence too is lovely.
Great video Jon showing that it's not all perfect out there. So good having a bunch of friends to help you out, Funny when you showed the "red stuff" I thought that's clutch lining, to many years fixing stuff I guess ! Thanks for your video's.
It’s great to have good friends! I’m sure your future snowmobile trips will be much easier. While snowmobiles are not your thing. They can open up new opportunities for you too.
Good job sticking out an extremely frustrating situation and keeping your cool to keep filming while also making the most of an opportunity to be outdoors; learning isn't always fun, but you sure learned a lot from this trip! The big aluminum pot also has a lid so a lot more heat is being trapped within contributing to the much faster boil.
Another great video, Jon, thank you! My favorite thing about the snow is how quiet it is. It's so peaceful. I would prefer to walk over snowmobiling too.
I grew up in Labrador and spent many days on snowmobiles when I was young. Now that I'm an old man I prefer to snowshoe and drag a sled when I go winter camping. Great video by the way!!
"I don't have any passion for driving but I love that it gets me to access points for wild places". BINGO! The best attitude on utilitarian machinery. Sure, if your into racing or blasting (Ostacruiser) then spend the money and time. But I have neither the money or time and I enjoy the woods too much to dedicate my resources to get those types of machines.
Been stressing dealing with the kids and doing my recovery stuff watching you brother is soothing... really like the Journal commentary you do I'll be out there living the dream in the wilderness eventually
I have gone through similar experiences with outboard motors. The noise, fumes, and breakdowns made them a poor means of transport. I went to an electric outboard and that solved the problems, but I must say that simple paddling is the real pleasure. When it is very cold you never want to have to depend on mechanical solutions.
I know your not fond of snowmobiles. But if it will help you be able to venture further it will be worth it. You looked so tired and down at the end of your trip. Coupled with being on your own and the freezing temperatures it was working all against you. I really felt for you Jon. Hopefully now you’ve had the repairs done, it will run a lot smoother for you her on in and I know your probably doing your reading up on the machine as we speak. Still I appreciate your efforts and sharing this with us. Hope your both keeping well x
Machines cause ten times the headache when they don't work, compared to how much joy they bring when they do =) Good choice of a snowmobile though, easy to find parts i can imagine. Love your content, all the best from Sweden.
Always love your content. It's great that you kept the unedited thoughts and emotions in this one...very relatable. Even the pros have their trips that go sideways. All the best to you and Erin!
I just happened to finish re watching you and Xander canoeing when I saw this pop up, ironically. Tough trip, you look exhausted! Technology, any technology, can be such a blessing and such a failing curse! I'm kinda in the quiet woods camp, but I get the usefulness of the snow machine too, as well as the ATV, dirtbike, etc to get back to the nice places. Remember to always endeavor to perservere, as Lone Wadi once said! In other words, have a backup. Skis.
Get an old car bumper jack ( has remove all base , traaingular main shaft and tire iron for jacking) thus when you get stuck you can jack up machine and throw it over out of rut. Also if you get it stuck in slush you can jack it up and throw a few tress/boughs under the track to get it out. For serious slush jack the track up, put trees underneath and let the slush freeze overnight.. pack the snow down on escape route so that can freeze also.
One cool machine Tundra, the weather will warm up and you will love it the area you’re in is some of my old stoping grounds . Keep spares plug,belt and A small assortment of bolts and nuts
I'm sorry you had sooo much trouble. I'm just happy you were able to get out safely. Perhaps since its fixed all up now you could give the Tundra another chance and try again.
I TOTALLY get your narration on the hike out & taking in all the things around you and not just blurring by. Sucks that you had that ordeal with the snowmobile - but you found your center & pulled through. Yeah, a pun there... ;)
Thank you for sharing the struggles! Sounds like you knew this wasn’t your deal from the start. I know I would be leery of anything used when my life depended on it working….
This trip looked exhausting and you still kept the camera rolling. I know that wasn't easy, so on behalf of all your subscribers, thank you for sacrificing that time to document this gruelling trip. Stay safe out there bud.
@@LostLakes Yeah kudos for that. Taking pics or video is the last thing I'm doing when stressed. Always impressed at the effort and others put into making these videos.
My dad used to fly us up towards James Bay. I was always terrified the engine wouldn’t star. We’d land on skis and in the morning we planned to go he would open up the cowling to the engine block and place a chemical heater under it. Sometimes the block would warm fast enough so we could leave, sometimes we had to wait.
Jon, another great video. If we could all just walk 50 ft from the roadway it wouldn't be necessary to have the sled...it is an end to a means...it takes u back to those places that are remote...its just the nature of the north and how rugged it is...im happy for you and you have tremendous perseverance...you will do just fine with that sled. 😊
Also...you have all the back country and survival experience...you had that before you bought the snowmobile...that is not usually how it is done...u did it right!
Thanks so much Paul, you are that my/that sled's saviour....without you it would have been the seventh spare parts tundra at Duncan's camp 😂
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Damn man, you went through hell and back. Equipment malfunctions can really put you down. I might have just given up and curled up in the slush beside the snowmobile and accepted my fate! You're a trooper. I love trips like this because every other trip in comparison is the best trip ever. Happy you kept the sled. I'll pick one up too and we can go drink 10 15 swirly pops and rip around (I know that's your kinda thing)
Sure was hell and back id say so too you guys are both great love watching you both on your adventures in the beautiful back country keep on killing it guys
Xander on a sled? Oooooooohhhhhh....
Hahaha thanks man, the curl up and die option was pretty tempting as the night wore on. Oh u betcha bud, nothin like breathing those fumes, the deafening combustion, and just going fer a rip 🙅♂️
Hey Xander...this is not quite as bad as those 5 10 days you left Gustavo stranded.
One of the things I really like about your content is you aren't afraid to show the bad as well as the good. Anyone who spends time in nature knows that things like this can happen and there's always a lesson to be learned. Sometimes trips aren't always rainbows and butterflies - sometimes it's trudging through mud or dealing with a breakdown in equipment but you always keep a positive attitude. Kudos and thanks for sharing!
This is basically my worst nightmare. I too have an older sled, limited mechanical capabilities and a thirst for adventure, but not this kind of adventure! Thanks for sharing your experience in such an authentic way. One of your gifts as a storyteller is to share your frustrations as gracefully as you share your successes. I thoroughly enjoyed this video.
Friends are good like that. ☺️ Sorry tour trip wasn't better.
There’s nothing wrong with having a machine that can aid you in your journeys. One way of looking at it is that the snowmobile will save you time and energy in your winter adventures. Energy and time that can be better spent at your destination. Love your vids man.
Much appreciated Saul :) That's a good way of putting it. I've since been back to this camp on foot, 8km haul in and 8km out. Ends up taking up much of the first and last day
Yeah but it'd be shitty driving far then sled blows up and then it's up to you and ur two legs
Nice to see you happy with. the stove.
For the adventures you go on the Tundra you purchased is probally the best sled you could have gotten. Trappers to this day still prefer the old tundra over the newer machines due to lightweight and simplicity of the machine. Hindsight is always 20/20 but the sled should have been looked over first and maintenance done before the 1st adventure. This would have been avoided with a breakdown. Now moving forward machine is all ready for the backwoods. Do not let this outcome discourage you from using a sled. They are a great tool. I use mine mostly for ice fishing to places that are just to far to walk too . Things to carry extra spark plugs, drivebelt. a small toolkit with wrenches and sockets. Enjoy your sled. Looks in great shape.
when in doubt throttle out and yes snowmobile should have been looked over before venturing out
Yep, he just needs to learn about sleds and lake slush. He definately got the right sled,
Thanks Allan, you're absolutely right. Some maintenance was needed (along with someone who had a clue about motors)
Some still do but allot have also moved to 4 strokes because of the hudge fuel savings. Running up and down a trap line all day takes allot of gas.
I don't know anything about snow mobiles but is it possible that a different tread would have handled the slush better?
I know I should be wearing a helmet but was looking for a used one and was putt-putting along very slowly in the meantime. Here's the info on the sled from Paul if you're into this stuff:
TUNDRA INITIAL DIAGNOSIS
Fuel line to carburetor had a hole in it.
Drive belt was destroyed
Primary clutch had failed, internal parts of the clutch were worn to the point of failure. Broken clutch parts and belt debris covered the entire engine compartment.
The engine fan shroud was missing which was critical for air flow for cooling the fan cooled engine.
REPAIR
Replaced fuel line, fuel pump and vacuum line.
Replaced primary clutch with working used clutch.
Sourced a used fan shroud and installed.
New belt.
New spark plug.
Greased all suspension components.
Still needs a new throttle cable and carburetor then tuned.
A hard lesson for a new sledder but with it tuned up and mechanically sound, it should be a great sled for you going forward. Always carry extra spark plugs and a belt. Invest in a good new helmet. They only have a 10 year life span I believe. There should be a tag on the inside of the helmet. Your head is worth more than saving a few bucks is what I was told years ago. Stay safe!
Put together a sled survival kit with the plugs, belt, nuts and bolts, tow strap and whatever ever else you think you might need. Or keep the simple style we have come to enjoy in your videos. Glad to see you are going to keep the sled.
Just curious, was the crank seal bad in the tundra? Me and my son were watching and he was thinking the red stuff could be gasket maker someone used, to try a cheap repair on the seal, and it just blew out, which would cause the engine run really bad and have no power.
In all reality as long as the fuel gets mixed properly you shouldn't have much else to worry about with that machine for a long time once those things are done. Most of us who use snow machines grew up on them and learned these lessons as kids and closer to home. There is a curve for you to go through of course, like anything else, but once you've learned a bit and have the machine sorted they can be an excellent tool. You may even want to discuss removing the oil injection system with your mechanic to eliminate a possible problem in the future. You would just have to mix the fuel yourself which is very easy.
Make a list of stuff for summer, maybe flush the fuel tank if they didn’t do it when you redid the lines. You got good buddies that can help you identify what to do but think about your chaincase, and the bearings. Once you have gone over everything yourself your confidence will soar!
When you said you were getting rid of it I was disappointed, glad you kept it.
I also struggle with using machines (motorboat) to take me to places that would otherwise take hours to reach. Hats off to guys like you who travel almost exclusively through the wilderness under your own power rather than using noisy, modern machinery! Like you discovered, they're handy when they run good, but when they don't, they can quickly become a liability.
Thanks for another great video! I always enjoy watching them!
your positive attitude never ceases to amaze me. incredibly difficult situation to be in. speaks to your preparedness and perseverance
Thanks again man!
Nice video, At least you have buddies to teach you on snowmobile things. I got tired of dragging flip over ice fishing huts on snow and ice, so I bought a used snowmobile to do that part. It is just an easier way to do what you like and farther out.
I can identify with what went wrong in your recent video. Quite a few years ago in mid-January in Northern Minnesota, my wife and I were pulled in a sleigh behind another couple with a snowmobile.
It broke down in the middle of nowhere late on a Sunday afternoon. It was getting colder and sunlight was fading.
Very fortunate for us, it started up again and we made it back okay. It had been a very helpless feeling at the time.
What we saw in your misfortune here was that above all, you remained calm and still kept filming during the whole ordeal.
That deserves a real "tip of the hat" to you. That is very impressive. Although your plans were altered, it was still a very interesting video to see.
We like watching them all, and that includes those in which you pair up with Xander. Well done.
With the maintenance done and the fixes you now have one of the most reliable snow machines on the planet.
I found your channel a few months ago, and I think you guys have the best backcountry/paddling/exploring channel on UA-cam. I just love your videos, and watching them has given me so much inspiration to do more backcountry trips myself. I've done a couple, but not for a few years, and now I can't wait for spring and warmer weather to arrive so I can get outdoors again. Your style of filmmaking is awesome, and I appreciate how much respect you show for the natural world and everything in it. And also how many helpful tips you share in your videos. I've learned so much from them. Best wishes to you both, and I hope 2022 is a great year for you guys.
Truly appreciate that Tracy! 💚💚 Hope you have a wonderful summer in the backcountry and get out as much as you can :)
Nice. Good on you Jon for making such an honest post. Lessons to be learned. Thanks for sharing.
Always have to have ( confidence ) in your (maintenance) …of your snowmachine. ( snowmobile )The more you learn about it the better you will feel. I have used one my whole life I’m 55 and I’ve only broke down one time and it resulted in my lack of maintenance….Good camping,fishing ,good videos have fun enjoy be safe.
That which doesn't annoy the heck out of you will make you stronger, you'll learn from this. Bravo to your strength in not pushing it further into the slush. 😊
As a long time snowmobiler my first thought when saw your thumbnail was this is going to be painful. And watching you struggle with your sled it just made me feel very anxious. We never ride alone. (that way more of us are miserable) But I have to say when we would get to an area away from other sleds and turn them off the shear stillness and calm is amazing. I'm pretty sure that's one of many reasons why I enjoy your videos so much.
Thanks so much Sue :) Never riding alone is the way to go...I'll have to do it sometimes, but I don't think I'll ever ride alone on a lake again unless there's a defined trail. Better to stick to the overland trails when solo
I share the same frustrations with snowmobiles. They have given me a lot of fun and adventure as i owned multiple sleds for 20 yrs but have had them fail multiple times too and a frozen solid track from slush too. I find joy like you in knowing my limits and know that im able to get out on my own without relying on machinery. Great video i felt bad for you but it also felt like i relived some of those moments you went through. Best to sell it and move on is what i did. A machine sitting for 9 months of the yr only for a few times use a yr and then to have to sweat your but off to just get the thing working….. oh yea your story hits close to home. I just have to figure out how to lighten up my sleigh load as pulling by hand in powder is not fun either but rewarding thats for sure.
Hahah you're speaking my language Dale
Snowmobiles can be a full-time hobby by themselves, but once you get them dialed in and you get to know your machine better you learn its limitations as well. Definitely worth it, it can get you into places few people get to see. Love the videos, and keep your head up.
They force you into being a mechanic, and with that comes confidence in knowing your machine and being able to fix what needs to be fixed.
Well said and fully agree.
I agree that a snowmobile is a useful tool in the bush. Great post - I like the frankness and fact that you showed the difficulties and challenges that one often encounters in the bush. Have been in similar circumstances many times myself and every one has been a learning experience. Thanks for sharing.
Much appreciated Lorne :)
I feel the same about snowmobiles, it is a like/hate relationship. I find in one way they are helpful and convenient but when stuff goes wrong they are really stressful. I do hate the noise but if it is a trip to and from could probably put up with it for the short term. I could feel your stress that first day. All worked out in the end and at least the machine is working properly now. Thanks for sharing. :) :)
Glad you're safe Jon. I also owned an old tundra for several years (needed it to pull my hut out onto Simcoe) but when I stopped putting a hut out (I now walk everywhere, pulling a sleigh) I sold it and never looked back. When you get to be 58 years old and you think nothing of pulling a sleigh 10 plus km in a day, all the while hand auguring your own holes, it's a very satisfying feeling (he says, smugly). Plus, seven trips out on the ice and I haven't had to fish next to anyone! But I hear Simcoe is as busy as ever..... 😉
I recall being told when I worked in Algonquin one winter, who needs mechanic school, just get a snowmobile :)
I am glad you came to the same conclusion I did watching this. This is not a failure but a learning experience that made you stronger and improved your servial skills. As well as reaffirmed who you are and how you like doing things.
I am glad your not giving up on the sled just yet as well. It is a new tool in your arisnal like a canoe or kayak, all be it mechanized.
Once you try it out a few more times and build on successes, I can see it being a vital tool to longer non solo trips exploring the North back country in winter.
Hey Jon tough go so thx for keeping it real!!! Great idea to keep the snowmobile and give it a shot another day. Mechanical issues are stressful your lucky to have such handy and kind friends. CHEERS!!!
Great video Jon. Snowmobiles are definitely their own set of problems, especially when alone and a new/unfamiliar machine. Don’t give up though. Sounds like you’re on the right track with repairs as noted in some of the other comments. Great video and content. Winter is too long without adventures. Cheers!
Thanks a lot Tim! Been a good learning experience and linking with some experienced folks has been a huge help
I agree with everything you said. In my opinion, if you rely on a snow machine then you need to be very mechanical. You need to bring along all the necessary tools, extra parts, etc. to fix it on the go. Mechanics like your friends are life savers. I am so jealous how they can diagnose, repair, improve mechanical items with ease.
Same here Derek...problems that I can understand are one thing, but problems that I completely lack the skills to solve (and don't even have signal to look it up) are quite exasperating. Thank goodness for the good guys who helped me
As always, enjoyed the video. I also own a snowmobile, snow shoes, and cross country skis. They all have their place. Maybe your buddies could run you through a snowmobile tech 101 course. Changing a spark plug, drive belt, or clearing a flooded engine can save the trip. Respect the slush, it is nasty stuff.
❤️ love that you have such amazing friends!
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Good for you for trying something outside your comfort.. and the sled can expand your range..
It has allowed us to visit your camp so earned its keep already. Great little video sharing honestly your journey.. and welcome to the north where everyone helps each other so we can all thrive!!
Love that you still find time to see and show natures beauty .. it’s what sets you apart as a creator!
Really appreciate that Barb! There's value to be found in it for sure....let's just hope that's it in the "cost" department for this season at least. Learned a lot though...there's been value there too
Friendly advice.... always turn the kill switch back on immediately after shutting it down, so it doesn't freeze. Carry a extra pull cord and belt. Plus some dry gas. Good luck young man.
Boy did I learn this! Just about had the carbs off before I just paused and thought it thru. Still getting the air box on was a pita
Wow. My heart sank a few times on this one. Glad you were safe and thank you for posting with all your troubles and tribulations I'm sure it ain't all sunshine n lollipops out there.
Much appreciated Brian!
Jon with a machine? I thought I'd never see it! We just had to rescue a broken down sled from a small brookie lake this weekend; always carry spare spark plugs.
Feel the pain of being stuck in snow can be so maddening and nothing breaks until you use it. The first time you do anything always some paying a stupid tax but better to challenge the process than never have a different experience. You are just braver than the rest to put it on UA-cam and that's why I appreciate this channel.
With every new experiences comes with new lessons to be learned for new opportunities. I hope you don't get discouraged from using your snowmobile. I can respect and appreciate your point of view of not wanting to use one in the first place. You're doing a very job making your winter camping videos. Keep up the Excellent work
Really appreciate that Lyle! It was a great learning experience and made some new friends so it's all good :)
Glad you’re giving it another shot, great guys helping get your machine fixed.
Stand up guys :)
I'm proud of you John you tried a new way of going about your tours in your camping trips I'm proud of you very in the long run you have accomplished a lot keep it going from Canada
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Tough day brother! Kudos for the effort... you’re a beast ❤️
Thats intense! At least you know how to handle yourself in the outdoors.
Enjoying your window to camping up north... I've never thought of Chili as a breakfast food!
Thanks Art! Hahah I just find that most simple breakfasts don't fill me up out there, except breakfast meats...but I don't eat that much meat
We had snowmobiles back in the 60's & 70's and they could be unreliable at times. We always carried extra spark plugs and a belt. We ran into the overflow issue as well. But we learned to hug the shore,seemed to work for us. I've seen people get trucks stuck on the ice before, not good. Anyway nice recovery from your issues, and good friends to rescue your sled.
Yes those machines can be unpredictable even the newer ones. It’s an experience but I’m happy for you that you have buddies to assist in fixing it. Glad to hear Erin wud like one. With both having a machine when you are out is a little more comforting should something go south with one of them! Keep up the great videos! Enjoy them very much!!👍👍👍
I see someone has taken part of the fan shroud off of the motor. Without it will overheat the motor. That was not intended to be a free air sled. You might want to locate a good mechanic and find the rest of the fan shroud to make it original fan-cooled motor. Good videos keep
Live and learn that’s for sure. Big reason I don’t use a snowmobile is I’m not very mechanical. I wish I would have listened more during auto mechanics class in high school ! Thanks for sharing. Take care and stay safe.
New subscriber, love your videos. Your appreciation of nature is inspiring & I am glad that you are sharing your travels. Cheers from Vermont!
Jon, good for you for trying something new and reach outside your comfort zone. Good job.
Appreciate that Lou!
We feel your pain Jon, we have snow shoed into our camp for years, we keep saying about a snow machine, like you I feel part of the enjoyment is the trek in. That said this past weekend was a 4.5 hour marathon , the snow was so deep we had to unload our pelicans to break trail and then return back to pick up the off loaded of supplies,-30c . Arriving at the cabin it was -20 c inside which took 5 hours of feeding the woodstove to bring it up to temperature inside. We questioned our sanity but, in the end it’s all part of the journey and we spent 3 glorious days in the wilderness. Sorry for your troubles but looks like you have your machine up and running now, all the best, thanks for sharing. Bob
Hi Guys!! Just found your channel last week and have been binge watching your videos!! I just wanted to give some suggestions for getting the Tundra out of slush. My father and I ran a trapline north of the Sault and have been in that situation with our Tundra. The first thing is that a old bumper jack (or farm jack) is invaluable for lifting the track out of the slush. Make sure you weld the base of the jack to the upright or you will lose it under the slush. Put the base down on the good ice and jack up the back end of the machine. Clean out as much slush as possible, then start the machine and run the track out. Pack down the snow beside where you got stuck and pull the track over on it. The second suggestion is that you put on your snowshoes and walk beside the machine while driving it to solid ground. Not having your weight on the machine seems to work wonders. Overall I like your adventures but I'm not so sure I would want to camp out in a tent in those temps!!
Really appreciate this Al!! Next time shouldn't be quite so bad :)
Geez what a slog dude! You’re a trooper John
Much appreciated Sam :)
Only in Canada could you leave your sled by the trail and expect it to be there when you return. What I thought of while this was happening was how commendable it was of you set up the camera and documented the breakdowns as they occurred. That takes time and energy at the time when you have very little of both. I've been in that situation with my small children. Fortunately, I figured out how to get the machine started, but my poor judgement, relying on the sled, in that situation soured me on extended use of snow machines. I continued to use mine for short trips, winter picnics with the kids, with the same caveat as you. If I couldn't walk back to safety, I wasn't going at all.
Very much appreciated Jim! It's a pretty exhausting situation
That was one Hell of an adventure. But you kept at it and didn't let yourself be defeated.. I really love your content and thank you for all your hard work it doesn't go unnoticed and I know alot of people would agree it's appreciated 💯
Glad to see a sled added to the channel and that its staying!
The snowmobile is a useful tool in getting you to those portages that where impassable in the summer and clearing them for future canoe trips exploring more lost lakes
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I know what I'm watching tonight. 👌
This reminded me for a few seconds... of that Survivor man. Where he takes apart a Machine... 💪👌.
Great Vid.
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Hahah even the intro voiceover was kind of like a Survivorman intro, now that I think about it. Thanks Justin!
I have to say I was a bit surprised you got a snowmobile cause it didn't sound like you at all. Hope it works as a means to get you out in the wild areas you so love. Thx for sharing.
I watched you canoeing relentlessly for a few years and I didn't even know you had snowmobile adventure camping, great show 👍💪✌
Recently tried my hand at winter hot tent camping. I tell people it was the hardest I've had to work to have fun. Love that you are honest about the hard work and exhaustion that goes into the adventure. Great video! Thanks for entertaining us!
Hahah thanks Kyle, the odd person calls it complaining...but as you know it's just stating the facts of the hot tenting experience (especially when alone). But it's all worth it when you can finally relax by the stove :)
Love the tundra's, they are great machines. But with any machine you should always pack a spare spark plug, belt and rope for the pull start and the tools to change them. An old pair of down hill skis bolted to the bottom of the toboggan greatly reduces the effort required to pull behind the snowmobile. Look forward to more snowmobile camping videos! Cheers.
Glad you are safe and got the sled sorted out John. We ran into a couple slush traps ourselves last weekend on our trip. Makes travelling pretty brutal.
Glad you kept it to try again.
I can understand the dislike for the noise and smell, but it opens up whole new areas ( and new videos!).
I think the key is going with someone. Though I understand your passion for solo camping, this is the safer alternative occasionally.
Great video Jon. More proof your a tough nut to crack!
All I could think about as this started to unwind was. This must have been what Shackleton was thinking dam slush. Expected to see the lake crush the snowmobile in the slush and take it down. Then after being out all day not eating or drinking half frozen he comes back to camp and does a science experiment that pushed me over the top. Great video on what can go wrong and not to give up and have a backup plan. Your the guy I want in my plane when it goes down in the frozen north👍. Take care and carry on.
LOL much appreciated!
Having a lid on the larger pot helps also. Glad you got through this. Cheers
Oh man!!!! Late 90s tundra!!! Those are incredible!!!!!
By the way, that is an excellent point you bring up about how you use a car. It could let you down but rarely does. And it gets you to places you would like to be
Funny this, I grew up North of Sudbury, everyone had snowmobiles. My father said things much like your quote of how you would rather hear the trickle of the stream and the crunch of the snow. Our family cross country skied through the deep bush, and that was my childhood. Great decision, the silence too is lovely.
Great video Jon showing that it's not all perfect out there. So good having a bunch of friends to help you out, Funny when you showed the "red stuff" I thought that's clutch lining, to many years fixing stuff I guess ! Thanks for your video's.
It’s great to have good friends! I’m sure your future snowmobile trips will be much easier. While snowmobiles are not your thing. They can open up new opportunities for you too.
Good job sticking out an extremely frustrating situation and keeping your cool to keep filming while also making the most of an opportunity to be outdoors; learning isn't always fun, but you sure learned a lot from this trip! The big aluminum pot also has a lid so a lot more heat is being trapped within contributing to the much faster boil.
Another great video, Jon, thank you! My favorite thing about the snow is how quiet it is. It's so peaceful. I would prefer to walk over snowmobiling too.
Thanks a lot Corrie! I completely agree, especially when the trees are covered in snow...it just deadens sounds
Well done Jon. Thanks for the video.
I grew up in Labrador and spent many days on snowmobiles when I was young. Now that I'm an old man I prefer to snowshoe and drag a sled when I go winter camping. Great video by the way!!
"I don't have any passion for driving but I love that it gets me to access points for wild places". BINGO! The best attitude on utilitarian machinery. Sure, if your into racing or blasting (Ostacruiser) then spend the money and time. But I have neither the money or time and I enjoy the woods too much to dedicate my resources to get those types of machines.
Been stressing dealing with the kids and doing my recovery stuff watching you brother is soothing... really like the Journal commentary you do I'll be out there living the dream in the wilderness eventually
I have gone through similar experiences with outboard motors. The noise, fumes, and breakdowns made them a poor means of transport. I went to an electric outboard and that solved the problems, but I must say that simple paddling is the real pleasure. When it is very cold you never want to have to depend on mechanical solutions.
Hey, you’ve been quite for some time. Good to see again. Upload more frequently.
I know your not fond of snowmobiles. But if it will help you be able to venture further it will be worth it. You looked so tired and down at the end of your trip. Coupled with being on your own and the freezing temperatures it was working all against you. I really felt for you Jon. Hopefully now you’ve had the repairs done, it will run a lot smoother for you her on in and I know your probably doing your reading up on the machine as we speak. Still I appreciate your efforts and sharing this with us. Hope your both keeping well x
Machines cause ten times the headache when they don't work, compared to how much joy they bring when they do =)
Good choice of a snowmobile though, easy to find parts i can imagine. Love your content, all the best from Sweden.
Always love your content. It's great that you kept the unedited thoughts and emotions in this one...very relatable. Even the pros have their trips that go sideways. All the best to you and Erin!
That is some serious dedication!!
I just happened to finish re watching you and Xander canoeing when I saw this pop up, ironically. Tough trip, you look exhausted! Technology, any technology, can be such a blessing and such a failing curse! I'm kinda in the quiet woods camp, but I get the usefulness of the snow machine too, as well as the ATV, dirtbike, etc to get back to the nice places. Remember to always endeavor to perservere, as Lone Wadi once said! In other words, have a backup. Skis.
Get an old car bumper jack ( has remove all base , traaingular main shaft and tire iron for jacking) thus when you get stuck you can jack up machine and throw it over out of rut. Also if you get it stuck in slush you can jack it up and throw a few tress/boughs under the track to get it out. For serious slush jack the track up, put trees underneath and let the slush freeze overnight.. pack the snow down on escape route so that can freeze also.
Thanks for this Jim!
Last comment. Ty for showing the actual dangers. This is informative to us southerners who watch these videos and think it looks easy!
One cool machine Tundra, the weather will warm up and you will love it the area you’re in is some of my old stoping grounds . Keep spares plug,belt and A small assortment of bolts and nuts
I had a tundra for years… they are like mechanical snowshoes good luck and happy trails…
I'm sorry you had sooo much trouble. I'm just happy you were able to get out safely. Perhaps since its fixed all up now you could give the Tundra another chance and try again.
Yes anything mechanical will leave you when you need it the most, never give up attitude.. well done Jon
I TOTALLY get your narration on the hike out & taking in all the things around you and not just blurring by. Sucks that you had that ordeal with the snowmobile - but you found your center & pulled through. Yeah, a pun there... ;)
Thank you for sharing the struggles! Sounds like you knew this wasn’t your deal from the start. I know I would be leery of anything used when my life depended on it working….
Here's to walking (slowly)through the gorgeous winter woods, a different experience to be sure than flying across a frozen field with some buddies.
Good move. Even I feel better! Earning the destination is where it’s at.
All I got out of that was, thank goodness you made it home safe!
Snow mobiles are lots of fun, but I like that you can get in and out on your own power.
This trip looked exhausting and you still kept the camera rolling. I know that wasn't easy, so on behalf of all your subscribers, thank you for sacrificing that time to document this gruelling trip. Stay safe out there bud.
Really appreciate that Mike!
@@LostLakes Yeah kudos for that. Taking pics or video is the last thing I'm doing when stressed. Always impressed at the effort and others put into making these videos.
My dad used to fly us up towards James Bay. I was always terrified the engine wouldn’t star. We’d land on skis and in the morning we planned to go he would open up the cowling to the engine block and place a chemical heater under it. Sometimes the block would warm fast enough so we could leave, sometimes we had to wait.
Right back at you with the sled
Damn, you're tough! The snow was squeaking! That's cold!
Been a cold month here that's for sure!
Great video none the less, thanks for sharing. I enjoyed watching your adventure. Look forward to the next one.
Good evening glad to see yea on a snowmobile