Hey Jon good video! I was gonna ask your opinion i have been running for 6-7 years now, and last year i decided i was gonna go full blow into easy zone 2 training and mostly treadmill training summer bec i been stuck on same half marathon since nov 2021 1 hour 44 min, and stuck on same full marathon time since 2019. I did zone 2 training treadmill atleast 5 days week including strength training squats and bench press 5 sets 5. And for most part it seem to help, but then came october 2023 my half marathon and i was on pace to beat 1 44 but race day it ended up being 72 degrees and 100 percent humidity.......and i ended up running slower than my half in october of 2022. I ended up doing 1 49....i live in myrtle beach SC and weather is unpredictable here and as bigger runner 5,9 190 i struggle in humid conditions. But what makes it crazy is I ran my fastest half and time when i was running only 3 times week, in 2021 and 2022. When i ran mostly 12-15 milers in zone 3-4 in my training. Example the summer of 2022 i was running my long runs zone 3-4 and getting in quality miles bec i was only running 3 times week with rest days. I feel like my pace was better only running 3-4 times week vs 5-6. Now when i try run 5-6 days week i feel burned out get shin splitz and my pace is slower. Do you think i need to go back only running 3-4 times week with zone 3-4 longruns and more quality miles? and strength training? also do u think lifts like bench press 5x5 and squats 5x5 as runner can slow u down in the half marathon and full? I was way faster in my runs even in summer in 2022 when i was running 3 times week. But i always hear its better run 5-6 times week zone 2. But honestly feel like ever since i have stopped zone 3-4 running it has hurt my ability to run at higher heart rate for long runs in heat and weather. Any tips on how i can blast past my plateau of 1 44? should i try start doing my long runs in summer mornings outside at 830-850 paces more often get use lactic buildup?
It seems there is such a discrepancy at what Zone 2 cardio is. Some say 60 to 70% of your target heart rate others say 60/65% up to 80%. Dr Petter Attia says 80% of your training should be in the 60 to 80% range and 20% of your training should be above 80%, so 80 to 90% V o2 max style training, so High intensity training as that will improve your run times.
Absolutely! It’s definitely not black and white. Everyone’s body is different and it’s not like the energy systems just instantly transition unless it’s the upper threshold of that 90%+. I absolutely agree with that
Agreed. HR is for the birds
Hey Jon good video! I was gonna ask your opinion i have been running for 6-7 years now, and last year i decided i was gonna go full blow into easy zone 2 training and mostly treadmill training summer bec i been stuck on same half marathon since nov 2021 1 hour 44 min, and stuck on same full marathon time since 2019. I did zone 2 training treadmill atleast 5 days week including strength training squats and bench press 5 sets 5. And for most part it seem to help, but then came october 2023 my half marathon and i was on pace to beat 1 44 but race day it ended up being 72 degrees and 100 percent humidity.......and i ended up running slower than my half in october of 2022. I ended up doing 1 49....i live in myrtle beach SC and weather is unpredictable here and as bigger runner 5,9 190 i struggle in humid conditions. But what makes it crazy is I ran my fastest half and time when i was running only 3 times week, in 2021 and 2022. When i ran mostly 12-15 milers in zone 3-4 in my training. Example the summer of 2022 i was running my long runs zone 3-4 and getting in quality miles bec i was only running 3 times week with rest days. I feel like my pace was better only running 3-4 times week vs 5-6. Now when i try run 5-6 days week i feel burned out get shin splitz and my pace is slower. Do you think i need to go back only running 3-4 times week with zone 3-4 longruns and more quality miles? and strength training? also do u think lifts like bench press 5x5 and squats 5x5 as runner can slow u down in the half marathon and full? I was way faster in my runs even in summer in 2022 when i was running 3 times week. But i always hear its better run 5-6 times week zone 2. But honestly feel like ever since i have stopped zone 3-4 running it has hurt my ability to run at higher heart rate for long runs in heat and weather. Any tips on how i can blast past my plateau of 1 44? should i try start doing my long runs in summer mornings outside at 830-850 paces more often get use lactic buildup?
It seems there is such a discrepancy at what Zone 2 cardio is. Some say 60 to 70% of your target heart rate others say 60/65% up to 80%.
Dr Petter Attia says 80% of your training should be in the 60 to 80% range and 20% of your training should be above 80%, so 80 to 90% V o2 max style training, so High intensity training as that will improve your run times.
Absolutely! It’s definitely not black and white. Everyone’s body is different and it’s not like the energy systems just instantly transition unless it’s the upper threshold of that 90%+.
I absolutely agree with that
@@InfiniteGritI find that the ideas and methodology suggested by uphill athlete are quite good. But I do not find their protocol great.
Well said brother
Appreciate you man!