Aerith's Death Scene is BRILLIANT! You just dont know it YET! *Theory*(Updated)
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- Опубліковано 21 жов 2024
- Aerith's Death Scene is NOT over! FFVII Rebirth showcased Clouds "Trauma Scene" but the TRUE Aerith Death Scene has yet to come! I discuss where I think it fits in best in Part 3 with the setup we got with Rebirth & why I believe its in the beloved Lifestream Sequence!
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I hope they do add aerith and Zack scenes to the lifestream sequence it makes the most sense to show them there. I think I’d like to see aerith and Zack with cloud through the events just like Tifa does for the nibelheim scenes. It could even be a good place for them to fully explain the lifestream and why cloud can see aerith and Zack even though they are dead. Either way I have full faith in square to smash this last part out of the park. Great video man!
That thumbnail of Ganon. That entire scene was a shot for shot of the OG Aerith death.
I’m open to any theory and discussion. What else am I gonna do for the next 3 years hahaha.
Perfect timing, I just finished the game the other day. Can't wait to dive into this!
I really didn’t like the scene at first watch. I felt they had taken the emotion we all felt with Aeris dying and replaced it with confusion.
After watching it more and more and reading theories, I at least understand what the devs were trying to do.
1) Create intrigue for the last game, to get people talking and thinking and interested in playing it
2) Further build Cloud up as someone losing control of his mind. Cloud experiencing the scene as in the OG does not make sense given everything we’ve seen him do and say in the last few hours of the game.
3) I strongly believe that Cloud will experience a moment like all the others experienced in the end of the second game where they “relived” their trauma, likely as part of the livestream sequence. It’s during this time Cloud will experience the full scene and feel the true emotions, just like everyone else did.
4) There’s a chance that they may get Cloud (and possibly the party) to believe he killed Aerith, which wouldn’t work if they played through full scene.
I still have problems with how the scene played out in general, but I think there’s a lot of opportunities for it to end up working. Excited to see what they cook up either way.
@@Jordan10704 I'll definetly have issues if they dont revisit the scene revealing the true events behind Clouds trauma filter. As for how the scene plays out the devs came out & said the focus was shifted away from her death to focus more on Clouds inability to cope & accept reality. So I guess I was spot on calling it Clouds trauma scene moreso than Aeriths death scene. And I agree that Cloud will have to face his trauma like the others did at the temple of the Ancients which is where we will see the iconic death scene of Aerith play out very closely if not 1:1 with the OGs.
Just wanted to say I just recently came across your channel and gotta say I enjoy the rebirth content. When I beat rebirth I was left confused and shocked at the ending. After letting it all settle in I enjoy it and it made the most iconic scene in FF7 one of the most memorable moments in the remake trilogy so far and I can’t wait to see the life stream sequence and see how this new version pays off.
You are right where the developers want you to be. I'm sure you will get the impactful Death Scene 1:1 with OG if not expanded upon. Wherever we finally see it is going to be heart wrenching.
Thanks for stopping by & I'm glad you enjoyed the content.
@@nostalgiaverse9892100% I really like what they did with rebirth and I agree the third game will showcase the true scene in its full and it will hit hard especially for cloud once he realizes what really happens.
I’d love to see cloud start part 3 with the dark side materia and some black skills in his buster sword. The payoff could be after he is saved in the lifestream this becomes holy after the empty materia fills up. That would be epic.
I'm down for Paladin Cloud
If the devs pull it off and I think they will Part 3 is going to be so good. So many iconic scenes left to be shown. Sephiroth making cloud question if he killed Aerith. What a great idea! Cloud being brought so low is going to make for an amazing lets mosey moment, especially with how well this game is voice acted. Not to mention the expanded lore on the Gi and Cetra. Amazing, the devs are definitely cooking. With all this stuff Part 3 going to have to be 3 discs, making it a 7 disc total experience. Great video!
Thank you I really appreciate it & yes I love the additional lore like with the Gi, its awesome stuff. I got 100% faith in the developers I am on board with whatever they choose to do I know itll be great!
I think Aerith could totally help Tifa get to Cloud in the lifestream. No I don’t think she’ll be a part of helping Cloud piece himself back together, but I do think it’s possible that she’ll help protect Tifa/ help Tifa get to Cloud.
Yup I dont think Aerith or Zack are gonna be there. I dont think Cloud would open himself up to anyone else but Tifa plus she is his childhood friend/crush as well so affirming those shared childhood memories is a big part of the scene.
She already did save Tifa. She is the pink weapon.
After completing part 2 and watching this scene, I was really mad about the way the devs took it. They really didn't do this scene credit and I don't like the ways they took it. Rather than being an impactful scene, it just ended up with me being confused. I'm really disappointed about the ending because the whole game until the end was absolutely incredible but the ending left a sour taste in my mouth. I'm still holding out hope for part 3 though and I am hoping they do something to fix this scene that will make it more impactful and less of a confusing mess.
I understand that totally. They changed it to focus on Clouds trauma & being unable to cope with death which left a lot of players confused if she is alive or not. I think the scene will payoff in Part 3, when that's more clearly explained & we see how it played out without Clouds cope filter.
I think this is the way the devs wanted it. They know for sure how big this scene was supposed to be. The payoff will be in the 3rd and it will be huge.
Saw some of your convos on twitter and came by just to drop my two cents. Even as someone who "ships" Cloud and Tifa or is at the very least invested in the relationship, I feel like the LS can absolutely have Cloud confront the deaths of Zack and Aerith. In fact, I think this idea of Cloud thinking that he saved Aerith is directly tied to the soldier persona which comes crashing down at the Northern Crater. Ending of this game made me feel like the "real Cloud" has been completely suppressed (most evident by the lack of conversation/comfort towards Tifa after Aerith's death). The breaking of the soldier persona has already begun hence the crack in the sky and how much he is suppressing the truth.
I completely understand why some are against the idea and are protective of the scene as many do want it changed just for "anti Tifa" purposes. However, the way you presented it is super interesting and can enhance the bond between Cloud and Tifa in a way we really haven't seen before! I have the utmost confidence in the devs to get it right.
I think some of it is being unable to accept things will not go exactly the same as the OG. Nothing significant, but I myself don't see putting those two scenes in the LSS as a significant change, just touching on the new mysteries like what's going on with Cloud blocking out the scene with Aerith, & moving the Zack scene from the Shinra Manor basement in OG to the LSS because it could only be viewed after the LSS in the OG anyways & I think would fit better there since it wont be an optional scene anymore & it fits discovering the truth.
@@nostalgiaverse9892 It totally tracks with Retrilogy really leaning into mental health as a major theme. Cloud confronting the truth of these deaths with someone who supports and accepts him sends a powerful message.
Don't put any stock in what those "go play the OG" say. They cannot consume the material without the lens of their ship. It's literally the only way they consume FF7. Without the ship they may not even be a fan of the material.
People use "Go play OG" for anything, even when it's not shipping. I just wanted to shut down that argument real quick. I've played OG more than the typical person, & everytime I do I talk to every NPC multiple times, 100% the game, Max sources, all sidequests, weapons, literally everything, dont miss a single thing LMAO
@@nostalgiaverse9892 same dude. I've played the game more than I can count. It's my favorite work of fiction. To comment on your dream world comments..... I'm wondering if everyone has those dream worlds in their subconscious......would most definitely ties to how Sephiroth explains them in Rebirth and Nojima's use of the jung-ian concept of the collective unconscious. I also agree about the purpose of the LS sequence. It is about the truth and the rest is a result/byproduct of the sequence.
It's so grim isn't it. Sometimes I put on a theory video and notice they're concentrating purely on the shipping angle and immediately turn it off. If that's the angle you view the game from then you don't understand the game. It's as simple as that.
my favorite part about about the new FF7 stuff is how much it appeals to my adderall damaged brain with the constant flashing techno vomit and button spamming, so much better than the turn based system that built the foundation of jrpgs and literally put the genre on the map in the first place. Man stuff thats old is so bad no matter what right lol!
As if most final fantasy games and jrpgs in general aren’t breezed through by spamming A and healing every once in a while.
Maybe you’d like classic mode.