Applying the Tin and Silvering Solutions

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  • Опубліковано 27 сер 2024
  • Silvering a Mirror

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  • @Ninjump
    @Ninjump 2 роки тому +3

    What an astounding process. Thanks for sharing!

  • @apollohill6733
    @apollohill6733 11 місяців тому +1

    This is extremely interesting. Thanks for sharing

  • @pcbassy9404
    @pcbassy9404 4 роки тому +6

    Impressive result! Very useful to know for larger mirrors that are expansice to get coatet them from companies. Thank you for sharing that knowledge.

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      @amirdariel1303 3 роки тому

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  • @dannyaustin84
    @dannyaustin84 Рік тому +1

    Awesome. No idea what I'm watching you create (apart from a mirror, obviously) but I was well entertained. Bravo

  • @joepublic5469
    @joepublic5469 3 роки тому +2

    You have awesome friends. Nice work. That's a cool chuck of glass.

    • @peterpekurar8440
      @peterpekurar8440  3 роки тому

      Thanks. We had fun making the video but I did not edit it as yet.

  • @eddiesines3398
    @eddiesines3398 2 роки тому +3

    Great video, but what are the chemicals in each bottles? Do you have a written instruction you can share?

  • @wayneyoung9612
    @wayneyoung9612 4 роки тому +3

    This is great!! I've been trying to silver a mirror using a traditional Tollens reagent process with little success. I can get a thick layer of silver, but it invariably ends up cloudy/milky. I think I am getting crystals growing, making the surface microscopically rough. The quality of the coating here is awesome! I knew about the spray silver process from Googling, but this is the first time I've seen it successfully applied to a telescope mirror. One question I have though : How can I remove a failed silvering attempt? Hydrochloric acid and ferric chloride won't touch it, and nitric acid will harm the substrate (it's not glass). I was about to give up hope, but this video has inspired me to keep going. Thanks.

    • @MrGoatflakes
      @MrGoatflakes 4 роки тому +1

      Really? Very weird. Have you tried using sodium hydroxide then reasonably concentrated ammonia? That might take off the silver too but at the very least it is like to remove any silver oxide that is probably protecting the silver by passivisation.

    • @MrGoatflakes
      @MrGoatflakes 4 роки тому +1

      Oh, be careful, adding ammonia to a strong base will release toxic ammonia gas, do this in a fume hood or outside, preferably down wind.

    • @wayneyoung9612
      @wayneyoung9612 4 роки тому +2

      @@MrGoatflakes I figured it out. The answer lies in using Tin Chloride to sensitise this surface. I thought I could get away with using another metal-halide salt, but it turns out Tin is the best. Here's an example of the quality of silvering I was able to achieve: flic.kr/p/2i1m92U Note that this is using a traditional pouring technique rather than spraying. Because my substrate is not glass, and is very hydrophobic, getting a spray to wet the surface is tricky. However, sloshing the solutions around on the surface seems to work. Thanks.

    • @MrGoatflakes
      @MrGoatflakes 4 роки тому

      @@wayneyoung9612 Nice. How did you end up stripping it? Also what were you plating?

    • @wayneyoung9612
      @wayneyoung9612 4 роки тому

      @@MrGoatflakes I didn't - I made another mirror. The mirror is epoxy resin. I have since made a 50cm mirror and have plans for a 1 metre mirror. :-)

  • @edwardswaim1173
    @edwardswaim1173 4 роки тому

    Saw the demonstration at Stellafane. Wouldn't believe it if it hadn't!

    • @peterpekurar8440
      @peterpekurar8440  4 роки тому

      Hi. It's quite amazing to watch.
      Thanks for your feedback.

  • @KarolyUngor
    @KarolyUngor 4 місяці тому

    Hi Peter! I like very much this type of coating. Can you send details about solutions? Thanks a Lot / Karoly

    • @peterpekurar8440
      @peterpekurar8440  4 місяці тому

      Hi, the chemicals are purchased from Agelhilding. I should have links on the playlist.

  • @Oganes03
    @Oganes03 3 роки тому +2

    Hi, nice work, may I ask what you use to remove the old coating of silver or aluminum, so as not to damage the optical surface?

    • @ianbuttery8693
      @ianbuttery8693 2 роки тому +1

      ferric chloride

    • @Oganes03
      @Oganes03 2 роки тому

      @@ianbuttery8693 Thank you very much for your help!

    • @peterpekurar8440
      @peterpekurar8440  2 роки тому +2

      Yes ferric chloride. After stripping the mirror, use baking soda to neutralize the glass and any cloth or paper towels. The chemicals can be reclaimed and used a great many times.

    • @Oganes03
      @Oganes03 2 роки тому

      @@peterpekurar8440 Thanks a lot!!!

  • @gudysuman9704
    @gudysuman9704 3 роки тому +2

    So what's your protective solution?May I know it?... Thanks

    • @peterpekurar8440
      @peterpekurar8440  3 роки тому +2

      Hi. I used a silver protector product from Angelgilding.com called Angel Guard.

    • @gudysuman9704
      @gudysuman9704 3 роки тому +1

      @@peterpekurar8440 ok thanks

  • @joaoteodorodasilva
    @joaoteodorodasilva 3 роки тому

    Nice work, i wish i cold make like u.

  • @user-oz5ek1os1i
    @user-oz5ek1os1i 5 місяців тому

    Мне интересно, столько видео о том, как сделать зеркала для телескопов, да ещё такие здоровенные, только я нигде не вижу сами телескопы с ЭТИМИ зеркалами?

  • @ahmadfouadassaf6856
    @ahmadfouadassaf6856 7 місяців тому

    جميل جدا هذه طريقة غير مكلفة وتحت الطلب لن تطلب مساعدة احد😊

  • @padregonzalociperiani5735
    @padregonzalociperiani5735 Рік тому

    Hello, I am Gonzalo from Argentina and my English is not good and I would like to know what products are being used to aluminize the mirror. thank you.

  • @badinternetrapper4932
    @badinternetrapper4932 3 роки тому +2

    What solutions have you used in those two bottles?

    • @peterpekurar8440
      @peterpekurar8440  3 роки тому +1

      Hi. I used the 2 part silvering chemicals from Angelgilding.com

  • @theelliotwoods
    @theelliotwoods 3 роки тому +1

    What are the potential causes of a cloudy/milky/hazy result? Have you experienced that before? Which part of the process can cause this? Thank you

    • @peterpekurar8440
      @peterpekurar8440  2 роки тому +3

      It's called silver burn where the silver piles up too fast. I've found that diluting the chemicals to half concentration helps, especially during the hot summer months when the chemical reaction speeds up.

    • @qamarsiddique8905
      @qamarsiddique8905 Рік тому

      @@peterpekurar8440 do we have to dilute all chemicals at half including silver ?

  • @kosmos921
    @kosmos921 6 місяців тому

    Czym zabezpieczasz powierzchnię przed utlenianiem?

  • @joseantoniofuentesalba7574
    @joseantoniofuentesalba7574 Рік тому

    Cómo puedo adquirir este producto y qué cuesta saludo José Antonio

  • @theelliotwoods
    @theelliotwoods 3 роки тому

    If you fail to see a break in the water eg at 3:40, what do you do? Go back to cleaning the mirror? Also there seems to be 2 types of 'water break':
    1. Break in the middle of the mirror (spots)
    2. Break at the edge of the mirror (never reaches edge)
    Thank you for sharing these videos.

    • @peterpekurar8440
      @peterpekurar8440  3 роки тому

      Yes go back to cleaning. The glass should be squeaky clean before tinning.

    • @peterpekurar8440
      @peterpekurar8440  2 роки тому

      Yes go back to scrubbing. The break you saw showed up in the video but not while I was working the glass. It still worked but better if the glass was cleaner.

  • @ys01124
    @ys01124 2 роки тому +1

    Oh! A very good silver plating job.
    I want to do the same thing as you.
    This is South Korea. I know the product you used for silver plating is from Angel Gilding Company.
    I want to buy the products I need for my job on the angel gilding online market.
    Can you tell me the product information you used?
    We look forward to your reply.

    • @peterpekurar8440
      @peterpekurar8440  2 роки тому

      Yes, thank you. I used their standard 2 part chemicals.

    • @ahmadfouadassaf6856
      @ahmadfouadassaf6856 7 місяців тому

      نعم فكرتك تنهي مشاكل كثيرة في طلاء المرايا التلسكوبية...... شكرا

  • @lucianolizana446
    @lucianolizana446 3 роки тому

    Wow! this looks so uch simpler than a Vacumm coating... is the result similar?

  • @yashwantsinghrajput9198
    @yashwantsinghrajput9198 Рік тому

    Price of these solutions

  • @abumoslemtamer7331
    @abumoslemtamer7331 2 роки тому

    good job !
    How long does this coat last before it wears off?

  • @hpktech7736
    @hpktech7736 Рік тому

    What are the Chemicals each bottle

  • @rockymendusa7867
    @rockymendusa7867 Рік тому

    10:36 what chemical is that on the jar?

    • @peterpekurar8440
      @peterpekurar8440  6 місяців тому

      Angel holding sells a product called Angel Guard.

  • @robertopereira9202
    @robertopereira9202 Рік тому

    Que produtos são esses

  • @GhulamMustafa-wk8ez
    @GhulamMustafa-wk8ez 2 роки тому

    Sir ifrom Pakistan plz tell me about these formula?

    • @peterpekurar8440
      @peterpekurar8440  2 роки тому

      You can buy the 2 part silvering chemicals at Angelguilding and they ship internationally.

    • @BukoLibuk
      @BukoLibuk 2 роки тому +1

      @@peterpekurar8440 hello what do i need? (tin chloride)

  • @wolftech4705
    @wolftech4705 3 роки тому

    is there any manual?

    • @peterpekurar8440
      @peterpekurar8440  2 роки тому

      My friend and I wrote a paper on it.
      sites.google.com/site/spraysilveringtelescopemirrors/home/how-to-spray-silver-a-telescope-mirror

  • @jaredrrrr5074
    @jaredrrrr5074 8 місяців тому

    When your telescopes comes with a forklift

  • @maximohuenulef
    @maximohuenulef Рік тому

    This si a huge piece of glass

  • @Raintide1
    @Raintide1 Рік тому

    😂😊