Hey C, thanks for the nice comment. It's so easy to work with. Once you wire it up yourself there shouldn't be any confusing about what's connected to which inputs/outputs.
It's a lot of things, but usually just one at a time. I think that's the main 'downside' of Leibniz. With a few splitter cables and several Dreznos this can be solved. It's a lot of money though.
I think Poczdam before Erfurt was a good choice. Erfurt is fairly straightforward compared to the others, so I definitely appreciate a video on Poczdam first.
Yeah, that's what I was thinking as well. I'm sure some people want to pre-order Poczdam but without really knowing in detail how it operates. Thanks for commenting!
Nice work Bries. Takes a fair bit of work pulling all that together. Lots of surprises to be discovered. Still Poczdam is probably only 101 on my list of top 1010 Xaoc devices.
Thanks Justin! Yeah it took me a few days, with all the reorganizing and rewiring and stuff. I managed to plug in the ribbon cables in the wrong direction a few times as well, but luckily I didn't blow anything up. Only 101th place! I wonder what's on the 0th place. I'm going to have a guess: Sarajewo?
I apologize for the negative comment, I'm not sure I've ever left a comment like this in the history of my time on UA-cam but WOW it is really, really hard to focus on what you're saying while you are signal jamming yourself.
Hey! It's a challenge finding the right balance between ducking the synth sounds just enough so you can understand what I'm saying and ducking it so much the pumping itself becomes distracting. You're the first one to complain about it (that I know of at least) but I'll check around what other people think and if necessary I'll duck a little more (quack quack) in future videos. I don't mind a negative comment as long as it's something I can learn from or do something about so no worries, I appreciate the feedback.
Your excellent videos have made me understand all the modules in the system perfectly now. But I still can’t see the point in Erfurt. Doesn’t make sense to me. So I am looking forward to the next video.
Hey Paw Not Daw, thank you so much. It seems odd to just have a 'counter' in the subsystem, I didn't completely get it when I heard about Erfurt... but after a few times using it I discovered some interesting applications: it's another input source of binary information that just counts away by itself without any input (if you set it to the internal clock). It can be used to create perfect saw waves (or the binary equivalent) for Jena to process, you can clock it at audio rates as well so technically it should track pitch (haven't tried this but I'm thinking pulsewave subharmonics), you can slave it it to create subdivisions of a clock and use these to clock other parts of the Leibniz chain (or sync lfos and sequencers) and let it generate 'stepped random' lfos at Drezno's output. My favourite use for it is shown in the last patch example, where I use Lipsk -> Erfurt -> Drezno to generate a pitch sequence.
@@briesmodular thanks for that. I have actually got Erfurt and so far only used the gates out to another Lipsk that is connected to Odesa. Did sound ok though. Need some more time and do some of those patches.
When you think about all other Leibniz modules they all process data instantly, i.e their output reflects their input at the same moment of time, and not from the past, because they do not have any memory of previous data. Erfurt is a new category, it has internal state, thus it reacts not only to the current input, but also to what was the input before, and even long before. Also, Erfurt is a generator, it produces sequences of data changing in time according to a precise rule. So, it is like an engine that may put a simple or a complex Leibniz patch into a motion just by itself. It can generate cyclic or pseudo-chaotic patterns which are not possible with other Leibniz modules.
I hope this isn’t too much to ask but, being that you are so well versed with this system, is there any chance you can do a video on the Jena paired with the Odessa (no Drezno, just Jena + Odessa?) I can’t seem to find a single video of if the Jena can be used as a Waveshaper for Odessa. I would greatly appreciate it!
Hey! I'll see if I can get back Jena in the rack in the next configuration. That being said I don't think this will work. For Jena to be able to do actual waveshaping (remapping using the lookup tables) it needs its binary information converted into an analog signal. As of now the only way to do that is with Drezno. Otherwise you'll just end up with 8 signals from gate outputs on Jena. The other way round won't work either because Jena needs to receive something on its Leibniz header on the back from Drezno (or Erfurt).
@@briesmodular that's why I am confused, because according to Xaoc Devices, you can use just Jena with Odessa (since Odessa apparently is also part of the Leibniz system), yet there isn't a single example of that. I'm hoping it will pique your curiosity enough to put it to the test!
@@Genshi your confusion comes from overinterpretation of what xaoc said. Jena can be used with Odessa, but NOT as a waveshaper. Odessa has only Leibniz input. You can use Jena to animate the partial banks of Odessa.
@@pe00000001 not exactly over-interpreting, simply asking for anyone who has these modules to try it to see how Jena and Odessa actually work together, yet no one seems to bother... just wondering what happened to the spirit of curiosity? Maybe it would surprise us the way Jena "animates" the partials with its wavetables...
Jena would ideally have another LBZ output connected to its input header. The purpose of it is to reshape binary data sources it receives through its data input header, and although the bank/shape/phase selection could be used, combining Odessa and Jena without any other modules at all seems unlikely to result in too many fun outcomes compared to most other combinations of LBZ modules.
Cannot wrap my head around modulating the digital signals from Drezno with the other modules. Just cannot imagine what is happening to the input signals and how it is transformed. However, there are some very interesting bit crushing and bit-reduction sounds in there.
Hey! If this is the first video in the series you watched I think it's impossible to understand what's happening and that's probably just fristrating.. You really need to start with the first video about Drezno, or even with the prequel about binary numbers, then watch the video about Lipsk, then Jena, etc. I gradually build up the complexity and this video about Poczd doesn't explain the basics about any of the modules. Hope it becomes a little bit clearer!
@@briesmodular I‘ll watch the whole series, just to experience the sounds that you get out of this thing 😅 In theory I understand what the modules do to the bits, as I am a software engineer… But by manipulating the binary representation of an audio signal it is very difficult to predict what’s happening to the sound. In comparison, a filter or wave shaper is easy to understand. Maybe that is part of the fun, when you explore the sonic possibilities of the Leibniz system.
@@sonicspecter At LFO speeds it's barely manageable to 'predict' what going to happen once you start routing signals through the system. At audio rates it really is just trial and error, finding out which chain does the thing you like and sticking to that. With Poczdam you can create two of those chains. I think Drezno is the module to really try to understand, but the practice is not always as easy as the theory.
I’m not totally sure about Poczdam yet. I think it’s primary use would be to mux determined sequence info with chaotic (like having probabilistic ornaments in a melody), and possibly do the same for audio. I guess a switch is fundamental component of “cybernetic” system so there’s that
Hey t4mber. Thanks for your comment. My main use for Poczdam (once I get a bigger case so I can mount them in my main system) would be to be able to use Drezno for distorting audio rate or LFO signals while in other patches being able to create sequences with Lips/Erfurt. I need Drezno's DAC side for both of these applications so I'd use Poczdam to switch between the two seperate input chains. I'm not a fan of the feedback stuff but just for versatility reasons I think Poczdam can be an interesting expansion.
@@t4mber_rec4ll I need to fix me a bigger case first so I'm able to install all of the modules (I keep having to switch out modules for doing videos about them). I'll make sure to record a video with the combination I told you about when I'm able to.
Pre-ordered Poczdam a couple months ago, so hype to get it after watching this. Great work homie, these videos are a lifesaver for learning the LBS. 🔥
Hey C, thanks for the nice comment. It's so easy to work with. Once you wire it up yourself there shouldn't be any confusing about what's connected to which inputs/outputs.
Leibniz will be legend Chuck Norris level. It’s hard to imagine what this system is not! ❤
It's a lot of things, but usually just one at a time. I think that's the main 'downside' of Leibniz. With a few splitter cables and several Dreznos this can be solved. It's a lot of money though.
I think Poczdam before Erfurt was a good choice. Erfurt is fairly straightforward compared to the others, so I definitely appreciate a video on Poczdam first.
Yeah, that's what I was thinking as well. I'm sure some people want to pre-order Poczdam but without really knowing in detail how it operates. Thanks for commenting!
I have no idea what is going on here. Good luck
It is all very confusing. Unless you have good knowledge of Drezno and Lipsk this video won't maky any sense at all.
Nice work Bries. Takes a fair bit of work pulling all that together. Lots of surprises to be discovered. Still Poczdam is probably only 101 on my list of top 1010 Xaoc devices.
Thanks Justin! Yeah it took me a few days, with all the reorganizing and rewiring and stuff. I managed to plug in the ribbon cables in the wrong direction a few times as well, but luckily I didn't blow anything up. Only 101th place! I wonder what's on the 0th place. I'm going to have a guess: Sarajewo?
Odessa! Then Dresno ;-)
Outro background track - dope
Jesus the noise under the speech is REALLY challenging.
I apologize for the negative comment, I'm not sure I've ever left a comment like this in the history of my time on UA-cam but WOW it is really, really hard to focus on what you're saying while you are signal jamming yourself.
Hey! It's a challenge finding the right balance between ducking the synth sounds just enough so you can understand what I'm saying and ducking it so much the pumping itself becomes distracting. You're the first one to complain about it (that I know of at least) but I'll check around what other people think and if necessary I'll duck a little more (quack quack) in future videos. I don't mind a negative comment as long as it's something I can learn from or do something about so no worries, I appreciate the feedback.
Your excellent videos have made me understand all the modules in the system perfectly now. But I still can’t see the point in Erfurt. Doesn’t make sense to me. So I am looking forward to the next video.
Hey Paw Not Daw, thank you so much. It seems odd to just have a 'counter' in the subsystem, I didn't completely get it when I heard about Erfurt... but after a few times using it I discovered some interesting applications: it's another input source of binary information that just counts away by itself without any input (if you set it to the internal clock). It can be used to create perfect saw waves (or the binary equivalent) for Jena to process, you can clock it at audio rates as well so technically it should track pitch (haven't tried this but I'm thinking pulsewave subharmonics), you can slave it it to create subdivisions of a clock and use these to clock other parts of the Leibniz chain (or sync lfos and sequencers) and let it generate 'stepped random' lfos at Drezno's output. My favourite use for it is shown in the last patch example, where I use Lipsk -> Erfurt -> Drezno to generate a pitch sequence.
@@briesmodular thanks for that. I have actually got Erfurt and so far only used the gates out to another Lipsk that is connected to Odesa. Did sound ok though. Need some more time and do some of those patches.
When you think about all other Leibniz modules they all process data instantly, i.e their output reflects their input at the same moment of time, and not from the past, because they do not have any memory of previous data. Erfurt is a new category, it has internal state, thus it reacts not only to the current input, but also to what was the input before, and even long before. Also, Erfurt is a generator, it produces sequences of data changing in time according to a precise rule. So, it is like an engine that may put a simple or a complex Leibniz patch into a motion just by itself. It can generate cyclic or pseudo-chaotic patterns which are not possible with other Leibniz modules.
I hope this isn’t too much to ask but, being that you are so well versed with this system, is there any chance you can do a video on the Jena paired with the Odessa (no Drezno, just Jena + Odessa?) I can’t seem to find a single video of if the Jena can be used as a Waveshaper for Odessa. I would greatly appreciate it!
Hey! I'll see if I can get back Jena in the rack in the next configuration. That being said I don't think this will work. For Jena to be able to do actual waveshaping (remapping using the lookup tables) it needs its binary information converted into an analog signal. As of now the only way to do that is with Drezno. Otherwise you'll just end up with 8 signals from gate outputs on Jena. The other way round won't work either because Jena needs to receive something on its Leibniz header on the back from Drezno (or Erfurt).
@@briesmodular that's why I am confused, because according to Xaoc Devices, you can use just Jena with Odessa (since Odessa apparently is also part of the Leibniz system), yet there isn't a single example of that. I'm hoping it will pique your curiosity enough to put it to the test!
@@Genshi your confusion comes from overinterpretation of what xaoc said. Jena can be used with Odessa, but NOT as a waveshaper. Odessa has only Leibniz input. You can use Jena to animate the partial banks of Odessa.
@@pe00000001 not exactly over-interpreting, simply asking for anyone who has these modules to try it to see how Jena and Odessa actually work together, yet no one seems to bother... just wondering what happened to the spirit of curiosity? Maybe it would surprise us the way Jena "animates" the partials with its wavetables...
Jena would ideally have another LBZ output connected to its input header. The purpose of it is to reshape binary data sources it receives through its data input header, and although the bank/shape/phase selection could be used, combining Odessa and Jena without any other modules at all seems unlikely to result in too many fun outcomes compared to most other combinations of LBZ modules.
Nice job on this video!
Thanks Martin!
Cannot wrap my head around modulating the digital signals from Drezno with the other modules. Just cannot imagine what is happening to the input signals and how it is transformed. However, there are some very interesting bit crushing and bit-reduction sounds in there.
Hey! If this is the first video in the series you watched I think it's impossible to understand what's happening and that's probably just fristrating.. You really need to start with the first video about Drezno, or even with the prequel about binary numbers, then watch the video about Lipsk, then Jena, etc. I gradually build up the complexity and this video about Poczd doesn't explain the basics about any of the modules. Hope it becomes a little bit clearer!
@@briesmodular I‘ll watch the whole series, just to experience the sounds that you get out of this thing 😅
In theory I understand what the modules do to the bits, as I am a software engineer… But by manipulating the binary representation of an audio signal it is very difficult to predict what’s happening to the sound. In comparison, a filter or wave shaper is easy to understand.
Maybe that is part of the fun, when you explore the sonic possibilities of the Leibniz system.
I should check out the modules at Superbooth. I think Xaoc has a both there.
@@sonicspecter At LFO speeds it's barely manageable to 'predict' what going to happen once you start routing signals through the system. At audio rates it really is just trial and error, finding out which chain does the thing you like and sticking to that. With Poczdam you can create two of those chains. I think Drezno is the module to really try to understand, but the practice is not always as easy as the theory.
@@briesmodular yeah, sometimes you don’t need to understand the thing to use it musically 😅
I’m not totally sure about Poczdam yet. I think it’s primary use would be to mux determined sequence info with chaotic (like having probabilistic ornaments in a melody), and possibly do the same for audio. I guess a switch is fundamental component of “cybernetic” system so there’s that
Hey t4mber. Thanks for your comment. My main use for Poczdam (once I get a bigger case so I can mount them in my main system) would be to be able to use Drezno for distorting audio rate or LFO signals while in other patches being able to create sequences with Lips/Erfurt. I need Drezno's DAC side for both of these applications so I'd use Poczdam to switch between the two seperate input chains. I'm not a fan of the feedback stuff but just for versatility reasons I think Poczdam can be an interesting expansion.
@@briesmodular very curious about your audio rate or LFO patch. That’s a great idea to combine the two 😇
@@t4mber_rec4ll I need to fix me a bigger case first so I'm able to install all of the modules (I keep having to switch out modules for doing videos about them). I'll make sure to record a video with the combination I told you about when I'm able to.