I was watching this and thinking this is amazing every single person that makes DIY cargo bikes can weld so well and then I realized, you make the other bike also
Super cool build! You may experience a stress fracture on the rear triangle if you do not reinforce this area. This is due to the downward bending force the brake caliper puts on the frame, which was strong enough to break my modified titanium frame. A bar from the forward bolt to the seatstay should strengthen this enough that you won't see problems long-term. Lots of current hard-tail designs incorporate this feature.
Yeah I know a lot of people put them in, so far I've never had a problem without it so I'm usually too lazy to do it.. I guess It'll take a broken frame for me to learn the lesson 😅
I think if I were doing that I might clamp the head tube and extension to a piece of angle iron to line them up, then do a couple of tack welds to hold them in alignment before doing the final weld joint. Over all, I'd say that's some pretty good workmanship.
It depends on the thickess and some other things. I usually use a foot pedal whenever possible for Aluminum so I can't say exactly. But for this Material (2mm mostly) I use something around 80-90 Amps.
I really like your cargo bike projects. Would like to see you build an ice cream trike cargo bike. I’m wanting to build one for hauling grandkids around. Thanks for the ideas and videos
Moin, Nice Work! Pretty satisfying to watch the final result. With the rack mounted to the frame, the load will keep stable. Have seen guys welding the rack to the fork. Steering means balancing the load permanently. Just 1 question; Why are back racks so unpopular?
Very nice job ! I would love to see you building a mini max version .I have been bicycling in this model for about 8 months and I have had so much fun . The best and most beautiful ,models of Omnium bikes . Very fast , manoeuvrable , and light .It is incredible , but also very expensive .😔
That actually has been on my list of want-to-builds :) I agree the mini max is a great format, very versatile. It's really tricky to bend tubes that size though which is mostly what has kept me from doing it.
dam excellent!.........you have inspired me to build my own bike! someone stole my yuba mundo that i used to transport my instrument and amplifier! now, i will build my own!
ok just finished the vid. I have to say I loved it, such craftsmanship. I liked that you bothered to create your own caliper mounts, when I guess you could have just used normal brakes. well done man.
sorry to be off topic but does anybody know a way to log back into an Instagram account? I somehow lost the account password. I would appreciate any tips you can give me
@Kole Valentin I really appreciate your reply. I found the site through google and I'm waiting for the hacking stuff atm. Looks like it's gonna take a while so I will reply here later with my results.
Nice. Can't tell if the front forks are offset enough like the soma tradesman. That bike'd be brilliant if it wasn't one size fits all. Still pretty good. Specially with a hub motor in the front wheel. Makes the steering less twitchy.
You mean because of the handling? I kept the original steering angle so it's definitely a bit steeper than on the soma. So yeah it could use some more slack when you're carrying heavy stuff but on the other hand I really like the snappy handling when it's empty. The whole thing was kind of an experiment anyway (just wanted to mess around with some aluminum) so I didn't plan it out too much. It's a great bike for just zipping across town and picking up a thing or two. I think the soma is more suited for heavy hauling though.
Phil Vandelay yeah, I think my main reason for liking the somas offset fork is because it makes it harder to go otb and increases the amount of weight the rack can hold before it flips. Soma still seems to love falling over when leant up against stuff.
@Phil Do you feel confident that welding a disc brake mount on a normal aluminium fram is safe enough for a public road vehicle? Pushbike. Whatever; you take the road with that. I mean the alu/ frames are being heat treated after welding, and are reinforced where they weld the disc brake mount. You neither have the reinforcement nor the heat treatment. I'd worry about that.
Yeah I'm confident it will hold, I mean it's not like I'm riding down MTB trails with 200mm discs with this. I have never had a single thing break on a frame that I worked on, and like you said, I only ride these myself. if I worried about this kind of stuff I'd never build anything. I'm actually surprised myself that nothing breaks because I'm kind of curious about what the limits are :)
I admire your work and enjoy your channel. Coming back to this video again I find myself curious why you left the welding so ugly - is it that you don't find it ugly? Seven years later obviously your welding skills are more refined - do you look at this build now and find the welding ugly or the kind of nitpicking which I suffer from is not something that bothers you? For you the rawness of the welding has its own appeal?
I've never given this any thought so not sure how to answer it, especially since I sold this bike years ago and haven't seen it since. I think back then I was just happy that it works since this was one of the first aluminum welding projects I ever did
@@PhilVandelay It is a great design and imagine who ever has it now loves it - I really like your designs. I put you in the same league as the very meticulous My Mechanics, but of course you are very different people - he largely renovates and you create increasingly beautiful Frankenstein's bicycles (amongst other things). Thank you for responding, I really appreciate it, it's always a pleasure watching you create and learning about your craft.
Too bad they don't sell an affordable frame kit in this style. All I have seen is the kits for long bikes with the big front bucket area. I'm legally blind, can't drive, and live in an apartment with an elevator so something like this would be perfect.
You could look at the Omnium Mini which is also sold as a framekit, but depends on what "affordable" means. Cargo bikes usually aren't cheap, it just comes with the territory due to producing much smaller batches and higher production costs
@@PhilVandelay The Mini V3 looks like it will be perfect, and yes dealing with bicycles all my life I'm quite aware of how expensive they can get after riding recumbents most of my life. The Mini V3 frame kit is a good choice since it offers a few optional accessorized that would be good like the sturdy center kick stand. Thank you for the suggestion.
Hi ! Can we have a long term review of your weld ? Did they hold despite not choosing the same alloy and not heat treating ? I'm considering doing the same to modern Alu MTB.
Watch my other videos, you can see me build tons of stuff from aluminum over the years. None of it ever broke, people online way exaggerate the importance of heat treatment, usually it's people who never welded anything. You don't need the same alloy either, same as with steel, it just needs to be a weldable alloy. I've welded 7005 to 6060 plenty of times for example, no problem at all. Choice of filler is much more important, I suggest 5356, it's a bit softer and has lower chances of developing cracks/getting brittle
The video is hypnotic. Love the no talking concept.
hand tool rescue
@Rob M Then, you should watch the DiResta channel
Being able to store the bike standing on the luggage rack is an excellent idea for saving space or performing maintenance on the tyres and drivetrain.
That ' s easy. I could make that too if i had a tig welder, drill press, band saw and your TALENT. nice bike. Thank you for sharing?!
I wish I had the skills, the tools and the workshop to do all this !
And the time, and the parts and the..
No wait, just gimme the bike and let Me go and be Me.
Beautiful build! May thy be blessed by the Retrogott!🙏
This design makes more sense than a rack on the fork. So the cargo does not follow our steering movement.
Watching you work on this is truly therapeutic...
One of the most handsome cycletruck buildsi have seen. Great video . Great design. Hope you make more videos for us thanks
Thanks! Yes there's more on the way :)
Stem and Bars are spot on!
I fricken love the sound of machines during timelapse.
ole phil, hes pretty good. precision but simple. Notice the bolts and welding, just like my 10 car hauler, Bolted & welded at factory, stuff stresses.
nice work by vandelay industries
Haha, listening to Chancha via Circuito at 1:00! Great work of course!
I was watching this and thinking this is amazing every single person that makes DIY cargo bikes can weld so well and then I realized, you make the other bike also
It’s little projects like this that just make me wish I could weld sometimes!
Dude! That's pretty impressive build!
Super cool build! You may experience a stress fracture on the rear triangle if you do not reinforce this area. This is due to the downward bending force the brake caliper puts on the frame, which was strong enough to break my modified titanium frame. A bar from the forward bolt to the seatstay should strengthen this enough that you won't see problems long-term. Lots of current hard-tail designs incorporate this feature.
Yeah I know a lot of people put them in, so far I've never had a problem without it so I'm usually too lazy to do it.. I guess It'll take a broken frame for me to learn the lesson 😅
Hab das Ding 2020 schon nachgebaut, und trotzdem guck ich das Video ständig wieder :D
This might be my dream frame !
another monster build cargo bike!
love the paint job on the ride!! Would love to see some paint videos.
I think if I were doing that I might clamp the head tube and extension to a piece of angle iron to line them up, then do a couple of tack welds to hold them in alignment before doing the final weld joint.
Over all, I'd say that's some pretty good workmanship.
Yeah that's a good method if both tubes have the same OD
Super cool build. Lovely welding.
I love adjust the Things for me ! Im going to do one like you! Thanks for the inspiration, God bless you.!!!
Thanks! That's awesome, show us when you're done!
how many amps you use for welding aluminum?
It depends on the thickess and some other things. I usually use a foot pedal whenever possible for Aluminum so I can't say exactly. But for this Material (2mm mostly) I use something around 80-90 Amps.
ok graeat, thanks Phil!!!!
Oooh. I like that you take the time to make your metal all shiny and nice. I definitely would not.
I like how the rack is on the frame instead of the fork.
And removable! This guy has a lot of forward thinking
Work of Art
I really like your cargo bike projects. Would like to see you build an ice cream trike cargo bike. I’m wanting to build one for hauling grandkids around. Thanks for the ideas and videos
12:40 I thought I was transported to another episode of Content Cop 😂😂
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eine wahre freude, deine vids zu schauen! gruesse aus potsdam!
What a killer project! Looks awesome.
Moin, Nice Work!
Pretty satisfying to watch the final result.
With the rack mounted to the frame, the load will keep stable. Have seen guys welding the rack to the fork. Steering means balancing the load permanently.
Just 1 question;
Why are back racks so unpopular?
Super gemacht! Great videos!!
Very nice job !
I would love to see you building a mini max version .I have been bicycling in this model for about 8 months and I have had so much fun . The best and most beautiful ,models of Omnium bikes . Very fast , manoeuvrable , and light .It is incredible , but also very expensive .😔
That actually has been on my list of want-to-builds :) I agree the mini max is a great format, very versatile. It's really tricky to bend tubes that size though which is mostly what has kept me from doing it.
dam excellent!.........you have inspired me to build my own bike! someone stole my yuba mundo that i used to transport my instrument and amplifier! now, i will build my own!
Nice, show us when you're finished! Always like to see other builds.
Great videos mr phil, continu & sharing, i hope you have plan available for this built, give us a link., tjanks, joe.
Cooles Teil! Deine Arbeitsweise sieht sehr professionell aus!
the best design
Melhor cargueira até hoje que eu já tinha visto, perfeito parabéns.
That's one sweet bike man! keep it up!
I wish your channel was called Vandelay industries
Mega Hobel...respekt wer’s selber macht!
I’m no bike builder but this i will pay monies for..! 🤘🏽
You are ironman from real life! Thanks.
ok just finished the vid. I have to say I loved it, such craftsmanship. I liked that you bothered to create your own caliper mounts, when I guess you could have just used normal brakes. well done man.
sorry to be off topic but does anybody know a way to log back into an Instagram account?
I somehow lost the account password. I would appreciate any tips you can give me
@Eduardo Zayn Instablaster ;)
@Kole Valentin I really appreciate your reply. I found the site through google and I'm waiting for the hacking stuff atm.
Looks like it's gonna take a while so I will reply here later with my results.
@Kole Valentin It worked and I now got access to my account again. Im so happy:D
Thanks so much, you saved my account!
@Eduardo Zayn no problem :)
I'm thinking about using my everlast welder to make a cargo bike. You've done a great job on yours.
Nice one. Cool workshop dude
wow, great craftsmanship
Building a frame is a dream of mine. Nice work!
Huge dude... Congratulations 👊👊👊
Phil , why not machine your headtube extension ahead of welding it ? Avoid grinding the head tube out to for the bottom headset cup ?
I didn't have a lathe back when I built this bike so I had to resort to some uh.. unconventional methods
Nice. Can't tell if the front forks are offset enough like the soma tradesman. That bike'd be brilliant if it wasn't one size fits all. Still pretty good. Specially with a hub motor in the front wheel. Makes the steering less twitchy.
You mean because of the handling? I kept the original steering angle so it's definitely a bit steeper than on the soma. So yeah it could use some more slack when you're carrying heavy stuff but on the other hand I really like the snappy handling when it's empty. The whole thing was kind of an experiment anyway (just wanted to mess around with some aluminum) so I didn't plan it out too much. It's a great bike for just zipping across town and picking up a thing or two. I think the soma is more suited for heavy hauling though.
Phil Vandelay yeah, I think my main reason for liking the somas offset fork is because it makes it harder to go otb and increases the amount of weight the rack can hold before it flips. Soma still seems to love falling over when leant up against stuff.
soma only suggests 50lbs though, what do you reckon how much you can load? also, have you got some drafts for this one?
Very fine work!! Looks sooo good 👍
Fantastic!! This could very well be a commercial product. I would buy one. Can i send you my old mountainbike to convert it too? ;-) Really cool!
Fantastic project !
Bravo bravo !
Très très beau boulot.
Un travail de vrai professionnel.
really nice paint and metal work!! and great final with beluga airbus!!
You are a artist Man! Your bike It's great! 🤩
Great craftsmanship!!
you could even put a rack on the back for more space , just sayin, but this does have cool applications as is.....nice
bright idea you the man
Good Idea & Good Job..I like it
Anxiously waiting for your recent bike build bro!!
I want this bike , so cool !!!
Could you add then blueprints for this on your Etsy?
14:01 what?! that plane exists? for many years I believed it is photoshopped internet meme :D
It does, I think there's only a handful but you see them here sometimes. They do look absolutely absurd in reality too
Hey nice job, the bike looks fantastic, are you using gas for welding ?
This is a work of art! Amazing bike and an amazing video. Good job!
Super Arbeit! Würde mich freuen mehr in Richtung Cargo Bikes zu sehen. Grüße
Das nächste Bike ist sogar schon fertig! Video kommt auch bald
Do you know its weight please ? Awesome !
another cool build! way to go, man
I'm surprised Laura Kampf hasn't commented yet.
I doubt she even knows that this channel exists ;) Would be awesome though.
Two maker youtubers in Germany, who like to modify bikes. I have a feeling she will.
^Lol so true!
@Phil Do you feel confident that welding a disc brake mount on a normal aluminium fram is safe enough for a public road vehicle? Pushbike. Whatever; you take the road with that. I mean the alu/ frames are being heat treated after welding, and are reinforced where they weld the disc brake mount. You neither have the reinforcement nor the heat treatment. I'd worry about that.
Yeah I'm confident it will hold, I mean it's not like I'm riding down MTB trails with 200mm discs with this. I have never had a single thing break on a frame that I worked on, and like you said, I only ride these myself. if I worried about this kind of stuff I'd never build anything. I'm actually surprised myself that nothing breaks because I'm kind of curious about what the limits are :)
amzing work
Fantastic, Phil !!!
Amazing.
Good brothers
I admire your work and enjoy your channel. Coming back to this video again I find myself curious why you left the welding so ugly - is it that you don't find it ugly? Seven years later obviously your welding skills are more refined - do you look at this build now and find the welding ugly or the kind of nitpicking which I suffer from is not something that bothers you? For you the rawness of the welding has its own appeal?
I've never given this any thought so not sure how to answer it, especially since I sold this bike years ago and haven't seen it since. I think back then I was just happy that it works since this was one of the first aluminum welding projects I ever did
@@PhilVandelay It is a great design and imagine who ever has it now loves it - I really like your designs. I put you in the same league as the very meticulous My Mechanics, but of course you are very different people - he largely renovates and you create increasingly beautiful Frankenstein's bicycles (amongst other things). Thank you for responding, I really appreciate it, it's always a pleasure watching you create and learning about your craft.
Beautiful work, the only thing I can't understand is the inner tubes on the rack....
Sehr sehr schön, cool gebaut
I would have replaced the whole head tube or used a triple tree rigid fork with the small wheel.
Can we know what part you used for the bike ? Thé origine of the 20’´ forck and the wheel specialy. Great video, i realy enjouée it
Great video, what happened to this specimen?
Você é um artista, parabéns.De Cuiabá MT Brasil.
excellent job! how did I not find this channel before?
to watch that tools and facilities, seems that i have to buy my used car to afford :D
add some loops to use bungee cords with hooks
Nice - Hulk Hodn … guter Geschmack ;) Herrlich zu schauendes Video. Oberste Sehnerv-Befriedigung.
Que genial! So cool! Contrast for this work
when youre welding aluminium do you not still risk getting sunburnt if you dont protect your skin?
Too bad they don't sell an affordable frame kit in this style. All I have seen is the kits for long bikes with the big front bucket area. I'm legally blind, can't drive, and live in an apartment with an elevator so something like this would be perfect.
You could look at the Omnium Mini which is also sold as a framekit, but depends on what "affordable" means. Cargo bikes usually aren't cheap, it just comes with the territory due to producing much smaller batches and higher production costs
@@PhilVandelay The Mini V3 looks like it will be perfect, and yes dealing with bicycles all my life I'm quite aware of how expensive they can get after riding recumbents most of my life. The Mini V3 frame kit is a good choice since it offers a few optional accessorized that would be good like the sturdy center kick stand. Thank you for the suggestion.
Well done excellent job
I'm a minivelo lover from Indonesia
I love this channel. Would like to see the bike with front and rear 90mm sturmey-archer drum brakes. You da man! Great build.
Why would you want to see it with those brakes ?
Awesome! I want one!
Hi ! Can we have a long term review of your weld ? Did they hold despite not choosing the same alloy and not heat treating ? I'm considering doing the same to modern Alu MTB.
Watch my other videos, you can see me build tons of stuff from aluminum over the years. None of it ever broke, people online way exaggerate the importance of heat treatment, usually it's people who never welded anything. You don't need the same alloy either, same as with steel, it just needs to be a weldable alloy. I've welded 7005 to 6060 plenty of times for example, no problem at all. Choice of filler is much more important, I suggest 5356, it's a bit softer and has lower chances of developing cracks/getting brittle
Cool! You need a small lathe.......
I know!! It's on the top of my shopping list but I want a decent sized one so saving up for it takes forever. Machining is expensive.
Nice build!
Love watching your videos !
Amazing process!
Awesome
Did I hear la cumbia sampuesana at 1.00 or was that just machine noises?