"Women should keep silent in the churches" : Unsatisfactory interpretations of a controversial text

[John Piper, Wayne Grudem, eds. "Recovering Biblical Manhood and Womanhood: A Response to Evangelical Feminism" (1991) -- 20]
TEXT: 1 Corinthians 14:33-36; 11:2-16
TOPICS: DA Carson, JW.org; cults; Jehovah's Witnesses; Watchtower; propaganda; church leadership; Bible interpretation, hermeneutics; family headship; divine providence; gender studies
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Thank you Vivian ❤️🙏🏻

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2 Timothy 4:3

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1 Timothy 2:11-12

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Prophesying can include instruction not revelation as Paul makes a distinction in chapter 14

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Paul was not speaking about Christian meetings in chapter 11

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That book making assumptions not found in the bible
1 Corinthians 4:6

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1 Corinthians 11 is not about Christian meetings for Paul addressed that in chapter 14.

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You cannot assume on the scriptures as that book is doing John 21:23

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It is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the congregation meeting 1 Corinthians 14:35

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Part 11
PAUL STATES THAT WOMEN SHOULD BE SILENT
As in all the churches of the saints, the women are to keep silent in the churches; for they are not permitted to speak, but are to subject themselves, just as the Law also says. If they desire to learn anything, let them ask their own husbands at home; for it is improper for a woman to speak in church.
-excerpt 1 Corinthians 14
In this matter Paul speaks of the 'law'. There is a small possibility that he is
referring to a Roman or local law. If not, then Paul is stating that Christian women were
still under the Old Covenant laws.
Yet there was no Old Covenant law that states that women should be silent.
Then the daughters of Zelophehad...came forward. They stood before Moses, before Eleazar the priest, before the leaders, and all the congregation at the entrance of the tent of meeting, saying, “Our father died in the wilderness, yet he was not among the group of those who gathered together against the Lord, in the group of Korah; but he died in his own sin, and he had no sons. Why should the name of our father be withdrawn from among his family simply because he had no son? Give us property among our father’s brothers.” So Moses brought their case before the Lord. Then the Lord said to Moses, “The daughters of Zelophehad are right about their statements. You shall certainly give them hereditary property among their father’s brothers...
-excerpts Numbers 27
These women were not rebuked, even though they spoke before everyone, including Moses.
What they asked for was granted to them, because God agreed with them.

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@@user-iz8np3vv4i this is about congregation meetings not all settings

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1 Timothy 2:11-12

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@@user-iz8np3vv4i you cannot assume on the holy words.
John 21:23

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@@user-iz8np3vv4i are you here to say no to the scriptures?

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Thank you for the great video Vivian. ✝️🙏🏿🩷