David & Vivian Aspinall
David & Vivian Aspinall
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JWs preach a FAKE "KINGDOM" -- a fictional "good news" which originated with ONE man, JF Rutherford
"The Kingdom, The Hope of the World" (1932)
DOCUMENT "The Kingdom in Acts and Paul" at onewonders.org, "PDF Archive"
["Jehovah's Witnesses: Proclaimers of God's Kingdom" -- pt 135, p 158]
TEXT: Isaiah 60:1,2; Zephaniah 2; 1 Corinthians 15:1-5
TOPICS: JW.org; Watchtower; propaganda; Theocratic organization; Governing Body; Charles Taze Russell; Joseph F Rutherford; parousia; 1874 invisible presence; Millennial Dawn; 1878 kingdom born; 1914; 1918; 1931 Columbus JW convention
#jehovahswitnesses #jworg #watchtower #cults #propaganda #mindcontrol #1914 #1918 #1925 #invisiblepresence #CharlesTazeRussell #parousia #1874 #kingdomofGod #governingbody #faithfulanddiscreetslave #jfrutherford #greatcrowd #144000
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Відео

ANTI-CHRISTIANITY is now global -- which is only possible because Matthew 24:14 is near fulfillment
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[Basic Christian Library Samuel J. Andrews, "Christianity and Anti-Christianity in their Final Conflict" (1898), foreword by James M. Gray, 3rd President of Moody Bible Institute part 15] DOCUMENT on the 7 churches of Revelation "Strengthen the Things That Remain" in the PDF Archive at onewonders.org TEXTS: 1 John 2:18ff; 1 John 4:3; 2 John 7; 2 Thessalonians 2:4-7 TOPICS: Antichrist; atheism; ...
Ray Franz :"Trust in the LORD" perverted into trust RUSSELL & ALL his dates (1799, 1874, 1914, 1925)
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[Ray Franz, "Crisis of Conscience" 78] "Well, nobody's perfect!" the inspired last line of "Some Like It Hot", voted by the American Film Institute the funniest film ever made. Ray Franz points out the incredible hubris of Watchtower/JW.org, a religion which claims to be God's only spokesman, the "Ezekiel class", the "Elijah class", the "Elisha class", the "Jeremiah class" yet assumes no accoun...
"One God and Father of all" -- diminishing the male role of family head diminishes God the Father
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[John Piper, Wayne Grudem, eds. "Recovering Biblical Manhood and Womanhood: A Response to Evangelical Feminism" (1991) 37] TEXTS: Ephesians 4:4-7 TOPICS: Vern Sheridan Poythress; evangelical feminism; JW.org; cults; Jehovah's Witnesses; Watchtower; propaganda; church leadership; Bible interpretation, hermeneutics; family headship; divine providence; gender studies #sexuality #jehovahswitnesses ...
The REAL JESUS -- JWs, new atheists, "Christ-mythers" just 3 of many dedicated to burying the truth
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["Basic Christian Library" FF Bruce, "The Real Jesus" (1985)] TOPICS: Jehovah's Witnesses; JW.org; cults; Watchtower; mind control; propaganda; FF Bruce; Michael Green; Essenes; Qumran; Teacher of Righteousness; WEH Lecky; Albert Schweitzer #jworg #jehovahswitnesses #watchtower #cultsandextremebeliefs #propaganda #mindcontrol #bibleprophecy #ffbruce #newatheists #wehlecky
"WHITED SEPULCHRES" at German Bethel -- "God's organization" controls by spying and secret dossiers
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[William J Schnell, "Thirty Years a Watchtower Slave" (1956) 26] Schnell also wrote "Into the Light of Christianity" (aka "Jehovah's Witnesses' Errors Exposed", 1959); "Christians Awake: Restoring the Art of Witnessing, Evangelizing & Soul Winning" (1961)] TOPICS: JW.org; cults; Watchtower; propaganda; mind control; Charles Taze Russell; Russellites; International Bible Students; JF Rutherford,...
Why my FAITH never wavered when I left JWs, yet Vivian almost crashed, and thousands become atheists
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["Basic Christian Library" John Urquhart, "The Wonders of Prophecy"] TOPICS: Jehovah's Witnesses; JW.org; cults; Watchtower; mind control; propaganda; Josh McDowell, "Evidence That Demands a Verdict"; Bible prophecy #jworg #jehovahswitnesses #watchtower #cultsandextremebeliefs #propaganda #mindcontrol #bibleprophecy #johnurquhart #wondersofprophecy
Ray Franz -- LOYALTY to RUSSELL emphasis after 1920-21 fiasco (5 years before removing him as FDS!!)
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[Ray Franz, "Crisis of Conscience" 77] "Well, nobody's perfect!" the inspired last line of "Some Like It Hot", voted by the American Film Institute the funniest film ever made. Ray Franz points out the incredible hubris of Watchtower/JW.org, a religion which claims to be God's only spokesman, the "Ezekiel class", the "Elijah class", the "Elisha class", the "Jeremiah class" yet assumes no accoun...
ASK JWs: Do you know what Peter's ministry assignment was? "Special favor" or eternal ELECTION?
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[""Bearing Thorough Witness" About God's Kingdom" 36] TEXTS: Acts 10:34-48; Galatians 2:7-9 TOPICS: JW.org; Jehovah's Witnesses; cults; Watchtower; propaganda; mind control; biblical interpretation; hermeneutics; Christian persecution; Gospel or good news; Jewish synagogues; Holy Spirit; evangelism; Tetragrammaton #jehovahswitnesses #jworg #cultsandextremebeliefs #watchtower #propaganda #mindco...
What "HINDERS" Antichrist? Roman law & Empire? Papacy? Jerusalem Temple? The faithful remnant?
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[Basic Christian Library Samuel J. Andrews, "Christianity and Anti-Christianity in their Final Conflict" (1898), foreword by James M. Gray, 3rd President of Moody Bible Institute part 14] TEXTS: Acts 21:21; Matthew 13:11; 24:12,15,23-24; 2 Thessalonians 2:4-7 TOPICS: Antichrist; atheism; higher criticism; evolution; pantheism; progressivism; historic premillennialism; dispensationalism; postmil...
Did Newton & the Puritans view Daniel 12:4 & Revelation 7 as license to create 2nd class Christians?
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["Jehovah's Witnesses: Proclaimers of God's Kingdom" pt 134, pp 159-160] TEXT: Revelation 18:4; 14:1-5; 7:9,10; Luke 12:32; Ephesians 4:4; Daniel 12:4 TOPICS: Isaac Newton; JW.org; Watchtower; propaganda; Theocratic organization; Governing Body; Charles Taze Russell; Joseph F Rutherford; parousia; 1874 invisible presence; Millennial Dawn; 1878 kingdom born; 1914; 1931 Columbus JW convention #je...
The COST of EXCELLENCE : Want to know why JWs are in dense darkness & most of us don't help them?
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["The Cost of Discipling" 8] RECOMMENDED for those starting a LIBRARY: Cyril Barber, "The Minister’s Library" D.A. Carson, "New Testament Commentary Survey" Tremper Longman III, "Old Testament Commentary Survey" Jim Rosscup, "Commentaries for Biblical Expositors" Wilbur M. Smith, "Profitable Bible Study" and "A Treasury of Books for Bible Study" Charles Haddon Spurgeon, "Commenting and Commenta...
CHURCH should resemble a FAMILY more than a CLUB or business. The "HEAD" does NOT manage everything
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[John Piper, Wayne Grudem, eds. "Recovering Biblical Manhood and Womanhood: A Response to Evangelical Feminism" (1991) 36] TEXTS: Ephesians 5:22-6:4 TOPICS: Vern Sheridan Poythress; evangelical feminism; JW.org; cults; Jehovah's Witnesses; Watchtower; propaganda; church leadership; Bible interpretation, hermeneutics; family headship; divine providence; gender studies #sexuality #jehovahswitness...
German JWs compete with Nazis, Communists from 1926 to 1933; NO "conscientious objectors" allowed
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[William J Schnell, "Thirty Years a Watchtower Slave" (1956) 25] Schnell also wrote "Into the Light of Christianity" (aka "Jehovah's Witnesses' Errors Exposed", 1959); "Christians Awake: Restoring the Art of Witnessing, Evangelizing & Soul Winning" (1961)] TOPICS: JW.org; cults; Watchtower; propaganda; mind control; Charles Taze Russell; Russellites; International Bible Students; JF Rutherford,...
JWs, you need a DIVINE MEDIATOR : No "Governing Body" (11 fallible, uninspired mortals) can save you
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["Pure Worship of Jehovah Restored At Last!" pt 91, pp 138-141] TEXTS: Ezekiel 40-48; Hebrews 1; Psalm 102:25-27; Ps 45:6,7 Full text of "The Deity of Christ in the Early Church" at onewonders.org onewonders.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/Christology-Journal-article-booklet-2013.pdf TOPICS: Watchtower; Jehovah's Witnesses; cults; propaganda; mind control; JF Rutherford; Charles Taze Russell; Pr...
JW PARADISE & KINGDOM exploded by Amos -- no wonder they carefully "lose" 3 of these 5 verses
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JW PARADISE & KINGDOM exploded by Amos no wonder they carefully "lose" 3 of these 5 verses
ABRAM's journey in faith -- an encouragement to exJWs leaving behind an idolatrous organization
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ABRAM's journey in faith an encouragement to exJWs leaving behind an idolatrous organization
Ray Franz on FACTS which will "CONVINCE ANY REASONABLE MIND" that the time of the end began in 1799
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Ray Franz on FACTS which will "CONVINCE ANY REASONABLE MIND" that the time of the end began in 1799
SALVATION -- Why JW view horrifies Christians. Is "eternal life" endless existence APART from God?
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SALVATION Why JW view horrifies Christians. Is "eternal life" endless existence APART from God?
"The LAWLESS ONE", "he who opposes", "the son of perdition", Simon Magus -- and the final ANTICHRIST
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"The LAWLESS ONE", "he who opposes", "the son of perdition", Simon Magus and the final ANTICHRIST
The GREAT CROWD, JW misinformation at its unbiblical worst (please excuse this video's length!)
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The GREAT CROWD, JW misinformation at its unbiblical worst (please excuse this video's length!)
Demoting Jesus to take Jehovah's name in vain, we learn to love fighting -- even Nazi Storm Troopers
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Demoting Jesus to take Jehovah's name in vain, we learn to love fighting even Nazi Storm Troopers
The FAMILY is the model for the CHURCH -- Families have a God-ordained structure of AUTHORITY
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The FAMILY is the model for the CHURCH Families have a God-ordained structure of AUTHORITY
CHILD SACRIFICE, the foundation of Canaan's religion. What do we expect from gods who wade in blood?
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CHILD SACRIFICE, the foundation of Canaan's religion. What do we expect from gods who wade in blood?
Have JWs EVER "waited humbly on Jehovah"? JW.org doublethink on BETHLEHEM, ZION & MICAH answers
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Have JWs EVER "waited humbly on Jehovah"? JW.org doublethink on BETHLEHEM, ZION & MICAH answers
"Finished Mystery" prophet-mangling is well on the way to replacement theology -- and much worse!
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"Finished Mystery" prophet-mangling is well on the way to replacement theology and much worse!
Is "WITNESSING" merely "TRUTH TALK", or Christ-like character? Unbelievers judge by WALK not TALK
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Is "WITNESSING" merely "TRUTH TALK", or Christ-like character? Unbelievers judge by WALK not TALK
Rutherford's "CORPSE-like OBEDIENCE" : Sell my books at 200% profit; if arrested, you're "PREACHING"
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Rutherford's "CORPSE-like OBEDIENCE" : Sell my books at 200% profit; if arrested, you're "PREACHING"
ASK JWs: Do you imitate Paul & worship with non-Christians? Do you preach CHRIST from THEIR Bible?
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ASK JWs: Do you imitate Paul & worship with non-Christians? Do you preach CHRIST from THEIR Bible?
JWs get NEW NAME in 1931, but preach the SAME OLD LIE -- 1914 generation will live thru Armageddon
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JWs get NEW NAME in 1931, but preach the SAME OLD LIE 1914 generation will live thru Armageddon

КОМЕНТАРІ

  • @dissidentfairy4264
    @dissidentfairy4264 2 години тому

    Are you guys saying that to gain eternal life we must die first and go to heaven? That there is no paradise on earth? If so, what about "the meek shall inherit the earth?" Do you feel there will be an Armageddon and survivors that will never have to die? Are you saying that everything we were taught as JWs that pertains to God's kingdom is false? Even as a child I found the 1914 doctrine hard to swallow at first. The only reason I embraced it was because my father was a master at explaining it. He convinced me that it was correct based on the two ways to get to 1914. One of course was 607 BCE to 1914, and the other, I think it was 539 to 1914. Both sounded logical to me and seemed mathematically correct to support the 1914 claim. It wasn't until 607 fell apart in my mind that I could see a flaw in the calculation. In saying that, other scholarly ex-JWs, still hold fast to the 607 BCE date. They still believe it fits. Like everyone else, all I want is the truth. I don't want to live in fantasyland even if it's a bitter pill to swallow. Can you guys please spell out what you believe in when it comes to God's kingdom? In your opinions, do we have to die to live? Will there be no Armageddon survivors? Will there even be an Armageddon? Is our only hope heavenly? If your answer is yes, then what about all the scriptures that seem to support God's kingdom on earth? These are not meant to be trick questions. They are sincere questions. I find myself tormented by these thoughts. Thank you.

  • @cesarguadarrama8732
    @cesarguadarrama8732 3 години тому

    You are more fiction than the kngdom of God You mortal

  • @ZawHtun-zx9qc
    @ZawHtun-zx9qc 3 години тому

    Jworgchrurchbotadaungtownshipygnmyanmarhostjehovashglobalsfriendstherkeythacityygnmyanmarmrtinwinkhineceoexcurityygnmyanmarbibleteachingnicechinmessivepaidagree

  • @ZawHtun-zx9qc
    @ZawHtun-zx9qc 3 години тому

    211024datepaidagreezawtunusavisa2026datepaidagreeusaembassypaidagree

  • @BiagioDAndrea-j9d
    @BiagioDAndrea-j9d 5 годин тому

    OPEN YOUR EYES JW ! Osea 4:6 Il mio popolo perisce per mancanza di conoscenza. Poiché tu hai sdegnata la conoscenza, anch' io sdegnerò d'averti per sacerdote; giacché tu hai dimenticata la legge del tuo Dio, anch' io dimenticherò i tuoi figliuoli.

  • @John-oi8mt
    @John-oi8mt 7 годин тому

    As an exJW(11years) I have to ask, What hope for the future do you two sad people have to offer? My reasons for no longer being a JW are personal, I see faults in EVERY religion! But have to say that even with some errors in their teachings, JWs are the closest thing to True Christianity, you will ever find! So why not go away and get yourselves a life!🤦‍♂️

  • @michelejashinsky8409
    @michelejashinsky8409 12 годин тому

    So sad so tragic there r ppl in that religion that forfeited having children or shunned their existing children….. 💔💔💔idk what judgement is in store for Rutherford,but it will be just. He’s done tremendous damage to ppls lives and taught against the TRUE GOSPEL ‼️Christ crucified

    • @John-oi8mt
      @John-oi8mt 7 годин тому

      Deliberately bringing children into this evil world is an act of total selfishness, In the near future world, NOT having children will be a blessing! “The living will envy the dead”

  • @adrian_9951
    @adrian_9951 13 годин тому

    Thank you folks for letting us know what you found out I really appreciate it

  • @cygnustsp
    @cygnustsp 15 годин тому

    Religion, especially the christian one, is so weird but the JWs take that cake

  • @octive8
    @octive8 18 годин тому

    "..... and then the End will come,...." Matt 24:14 That signal mile post was passed in 2020 when the whole world was shut down,.. "and the door was shut,..." The end of the preaching was a shock, not expected,.... "as a thief in the night" the end will come. Then there will be "... silence in heavan for about half hour,..." means no light but 3 days of darkness. Then, "the elements will become white hot, and dissolve like a great hissing sound, passes away,...". We are now in the later part after the "door was shut",.... it's now too late,... the antichrist is again attempting to gather it's cohorts and the War of Megiddo rages across the region. 🕊️👑♥️♾️

  • @Rwakabubu
    @Rwakabubu 18 годин тому

    Thank you David and Vivian. Reading Rutherford's books helped me so much. After reading it I was sure that it is IMPOSSIBLE that this organisation ever had God's blessing. Rutherford was a lunatic - and a judge indeed. He judged you by telling you that you are not honest-hearted, sincere or reasonable if you did not believe his teachings.

    • @annegretheryan9908
      @annegretheryan9908 16 годин тому

      The name Jehovas witnesses means nothing. They make Gods word to nothing and are still stumble in the cornerstone.

  • @cherikerr8595
    @cherikerr8595 18 годин тому

  • @Antlil2023
    @Antlil2023 18 годин тому

    Wow killing with words never thought of that, but I can see how this can be possible . When it comes to compassion or common sense most jws fall short . Thank you for sharing ❤

  • @Antlil2023
    @Antlil2023 19 годин тому

    Sadly if a problem arises their solution is do more focus on doing more and more for watchtower. Thank you ❤

  • @michelejashinsky8409
    @michelejashinsky8409 21 годину тому

    I can identify w ur frustration ur definitely forgiven if they weren’t lying none of us would be so annoyed and frustrated ‼️

  • @veronicasalas2666
    @veronicasalas2666 23 години тому

    Thank you David ❤️🙏🏻

  • @annegretheryan9908
    @annegretheryan9908 День тому

    Thank you ❤ Yes,it's the same today.

  • @cherikerr8595
    @cherikerr8595 День тому

  • @Antlil2023
    @Antlil2023 День тому

    Thank you ❤

  • @JohnSpruce-u2h
    @JohnSpruce-u2h День тому

    Severe mental illness runs through people and organizations. History proves how like minded people gather and support their lunacy. I should know I once did and now I can't believe they still are gathering the ones who are unable or unwilling to develop a personal relationship with Jesus.

  • @michelejashinsky8409
    @michelejashinsky8409 2 дні тому

    Always encouraging to see you guys post ❤️💙💜

  • @veronicasalas2666
    @veronicasalas2666 2 дні тому

    Thank you Vivian ❤️🙏🏻

  • @AllenNella-t7r
    @AllenNella-t7r 2 дні тому

    After waking up from the WT teachings, I tried to reconcile what I see in Christianity and what I see in the NT. I see no continuity. Time and again individuals or groups see a systemic failure within the church (whichever one they're in) and they feel the need to cast it off in favor of a new and improved approach. Every time they seem to start with some sincerity and every time they end up looking like the thing they cast off. For example, JWs have almost completely replicated the structure of the Catholic Church. It's taken time and they have a different story of how they arrived there, but arrived they have. There is a tiny thread that holds me to scripture and it unravels a bit more each day. I simply cannot believe this chaotic mess is what Jesus intended. As the great shepherd, I expect more than what I observe in the state of Christianity today. I keep hoping that there is a simple basic thing that I have overlooked. A concept that would finally make it all make sense. So far, nothing for me. Either there is nothing or I haven't been invited to the adult table.

  • @veronicasalas2666
    @veronicasalas2666 2 дні тому

    Thank you David ❤️🙏🏻

  • @JMichael-o7g
    @JMichael-o7g 2 дні тому

    You tube is full of pseudo scholars and false teachers and false prophets.

  • @tonymlealv
    @tonymlealv 2 дні тому

    Consensus is not science. Consensus is a stupid person's arguing. When you go to consensus you go to the popular view.. You appeal to authority.

    • @davidvivianaspinall3498
      @davidvivianaspinall3498 2 дні тому

      You are right, consensus is NOT science. Yet it is the principle ostensibly behind our democratic systems. Is this assumption of the western democracies "stupid person's arguing"? But, of course, the church of Jesus Christ is NOT a democracy. It is a theocracy. And both Paul and Hebrews tell us how the principle of consensus works in that theocracy: "Submit to your leaders" says Hebrews 13:7,17. Who are those leaders? "Those who spoke the word of God to you". Paul says "give double honour" to "those who labour in preaching and teaching" (1 Timothy 5:17). So YES -- I believe in and appeal to authority. NOT the authority of the majority of churchgoers, still less the authority of the public at large. NOT the authority of bishops or clergymen even. But the consensus of New Testament scholars. Which leaves Price, Carrier and even Bart Ehrman at the fringes of relevance. Which is why so many exJWs go to THEM rather than the consensus of the best Bible scholars. But CONSENSUS is not the ONLY principle at stake in the epistemological crisis we all face today. The principle of CONTINUITY must also be factored in. More about that later ...

    • @JMichael-o7g
      @JMichael-o7g 2 дні тому

      Knucklehead: consensus by scholars is witness to verity. Tell witnesses in a courtroom that their witness is "not science" is nonsense. It is either credible or not.

    • @veronicasalas2666
      @veronicasalas2666 2 дні тому

      @@davidvivianaspinall3498Amen 🙏🏻

  • @michelejashinsky8409
    @michelejashinsky8409 2 дні тому

    It always concerned me that “works” were more important than fruit of Gods spirit in JW and the works were coerced……

  • @michelejashinsky8409
    @michelejashinsky8409 2 дні тому

    Excellent clarification on the direction of the early Christian church lead by whom! Definitely not men

    • @davidvivianaspinall3498
      @davidvivianaspinall3498 2 дні тому

      Thanks Michele. It's all right there in Acts 11 -- JWs have to be willfully blind to miss it. Much of this info was in Fred Franz's famous Gilead address, which both we and Ray Franz commented upon in prior videos.

  • @BiagioDAndrea-j9d
    @BiagioDAndrea-j9d 3 дні тому

    OPEN YOUR EYES JW ! Osea 4:6 Il mio popolo perisce per mancanza di conoscenza. Poiché tu hai sdegnata la conoscenza, anch' io sdegnerò d'averti per sacerdote; giacché tu hai dimenticata la legge del tuo Dio, anch' io dimenticherò i tuoi figliuoli.

  • @zengalileo
    @zengalileo 3 дні тому

    It's impossible to fathom how a person can think critically in every endeavor in live and for some reason turn into a bowl of worshipful jello at the mere mention of the Bible. They basically sre making the claim that the Bible is a MAGIC book.

  • @ckelly5141
    @ckelly5141 3 дні тому

    The great tribulation is the sacrificial death of Christ.(Matt.24:15,21-read in context) Nothing in all of history compares to God’s word becoming flesh like ours and willingly giving up his life to save all of mankind. All true believers face tribulation in their lives as Christ followers, but they take courage because Christ conquered the world at the cross.(Joh.16:33)

    • @davidvivianaspinall3498
      @davidvivianaspinall3498 2 дні тому

      The "great tribulation" in both Matthew & Daniel is the time of "Jacob's trouble" (Jeremiah 30). It leads to the final showdown between Messiah and unbelief, also referenced in Zechariah 12-14 and Revelation ("the war of the great day of God Almighty").

    • @ckelly5141
      @ckelly5141 2 дні тому

      @@davidvivianaspinall3498 I don’t even know what that means. Can you be more specific?

    • @ckelly5141
      @ckelly5141 2 дні тому

      @@davidvivianaspinall3498 David, the final showdown already occurred at the cross. That is why Christ said what he said at Joh.19:30. How are you not seeing that the most important event in all of history took place at Jesus death as a faithful human Son of God? All scripture was written for this one purpose so that everyone exercising faith in Christ would get the same reward as Christ….everlasting life.(Joh.17:3)

  • @juliusmuhia1353
    @juliusmuhia1353 3 дні тому

    Because bible is unique

  • @lorenzoloza2430
    @lorenzoloza2430 4 дні тому

    because most translation removed the name of the father the one who sent JEsus only JW have it in place. do you know any other translation that dont ignore the name of the most high?

    • @davidvivianaspinall3498
      @davidvivianaspinall3498 2 дні тому

      Most translations faithfully follow the pattern of the New Testament writers, NONE of whom use the Tetragrammaton, and who mostly use the Greek Septuagint when quoting the OT -- and the LXX did NOT contain the NAME. Did you know it was a disfellowshipping offense for Jews to utter the Tetragram publicly in NT times? Check this out ... "Do Jehovah's Witnesses know you were d'fed for uttering TETRAGRAM? Yet Christ taught in synagogues!" ua-cam.com/video/mkhyKmCN348/v-deo.html

    • @lorenzoloza2430
      @lorenzoloza2430 2 дні тому

      @@davidvivianaspinall3498 I know none use the tetragrammaton, why do you think you dont have a single clue who sent Jesus other than saying the father?

    • @lorenzoloza2430
      @lorenzoloza2430 2 дні тому

      @@davidvivianaspinall3498 JEsus and the aposltes quote the old testament written that JEsus is the son and servant of YHWH, are you incapable of seen that many bible after the roman empire in the 4th century REMOVED his translation? Luke 4:17 So the scroll of the prophet Isaiah was handed to Jesus, and he opened the scroll and found the place where it was written [Isaiah 61]:18 “Jehovah’s spirit is UPON ME, because HE.. ANOINTED ME.. to declare good news to the poor. HE.. SENT.. ME to proclaim liberty to the captives and a recovery of sight to the blind, to send the crushed ones away free, Isaiah 61:1 The spirit of the Sovereign Lord Jehovah is upon me, Because Jehovah ANOINTED ME to declare good news to the meek. HE SENT ME me to bind up the brokenhearted, To proclaim liberty to the captives And the wide opening of the eyes to the prisoners

    • @lorenzoloza2430
      @lorenzoloza2430 2 дні тому

      @@davidvivianaspinall3498 Go read Isaiah 42,61 PSalm 110 Jesus is the holy servant of someone you dont know. Acts 4:30 while you stretch out your hand for healing and while signs and wonders occur through the name of your holy servant Jesus.” Acts 4:27 For truly both Herod and Pontius Pilate with men of the nations and with peoples of Israel were gathered together in this city against your holy servant Jesus, whom you anointed,

    • @lorenzoloza2430
      @lorenzoloza2430 2 дні тому

      @@davidvivianaspinall3498 Go read ISaiah 42,61 psalm 110 Jesus is the holy servant of someone you ignore

  • @cygnustsp
    @cygnustsp 4 дні тому

    Rabbi Singer would have some things to agree here, and a lot to really disagree on. A two hour show with you and he would be awesome.

    • @ChristinaFromYoutube
      @ChristinaFromYoutube 4 дні тому

      Jesus says not to be called Rabbi so Mr Singer can't have learned much about the truth.

  • @marty950
    @marty950 4 дні тому

    Thanks David quite interesting to read different views helps to discern. Reminded of ethiopean enuch and Philip in needing help sometimes. Urquhart reference others like Hegel who with no bible background comes to similar concludion of maturing civilisations that align with Daniel, Tyre and sidon too, centuries would pass between start and end of fulfilment of Tyre being swept into the sea by greek hands. Thanks again for sharing 😊

  • @Bravedog2017
    @Bravedog2017 4 дні тому

    I am a legal expert and ex JW. I showed some JWs official court documents and their reactions were: it’s falsified by apostates or AI. A lot of JWs who leave fall prey to conspiracy theories or cultish political ideologies. It’s insane what they do with people’s minds.

  • @ckelly5141
    @ckelly5141 4 дні тому

    David,why would it be the result of reading two books that would help you decide whether or not the Bible was true? Would it not occur to you to ask God, through Jesus, by God’s Holy Spirit to understand the true meaning of things like the 70 weeks prophecy? Is God’s hand too short to help us?

    • @cygnustsp
      @cygnustsp 4 дні тому

      You should understand the ex JW mindset. A lot of us remain very interested in these things. We read books and watch debates. Myself, I'm an atheist, out of the the JWs for 27 years, but I'm still fascinated with this stuff and I watch every video David and Vivian put out.

    • @ckelly5141
      @ckelly5141 4 дні тому

      @@cygnustsp I understand and thank you for your expressions. I was a JW for 40 years before I disassociated in 2020. I did not lose my faith, but I did realize that I was captive in Babylon the Great. It is the false church, its system of deception, and it is massive. I finally realized it after all those years, begged for truth, and was saved as one of Christ’s sheep, who was lost but then found. It is Christ only that our Heavenly Father wants us to follow, not any man.(Mark9:7, Ps.146:3) This is the purpose of our life: to worship God by obeying and following Christ. Thanks again.

    • @cygnustsp
      @cygnustsp 4 дні тому

      @@ckelly5141 I will say I appreciate your faith, even envy it if not in a perverse way. I tried the Jesus thing, pardon the expression, I went every Sunday to a church whose pastor was a 40 year bethelite, roomed next to Ray Franz. But I couldn't be convinced. They felt a lot like JWs just with a few doctrines different, more emphasis on local political matters, and we took communion. No heaven for anyone either btw. I tried out so many forms of Christianity. None of them work except MAYBE universaliam, like Chuck Russell was into.

    • @ckelly5141
      @ckelly5141 4 дні тому

      @@cygnustsp I see. We could spend the rest of our life searching of coarse. God is in the business of saving souls and that is why it was His good pleasure to crush His only Son(Isa.53:10)for us, so that we could get our inheritance. All we have to do is kiss the Son(Ps.2-remember the song we used to sing in the brown songbook-song#168) figuratively speaking, then our Eternal Father will save, and then we can spend the rest of this life becoming like Christ, and in the coming age gain everlasting life.

    • @Timm-w1p
      @Timm-w1p 4 дні тому

      Looking forward to you discussing this book David. Thank you for sharing your knowledge 🙏🏻

  • @TheWellEngland
    @TheWellEngland 4 дні тому

    Thanks for this video. So few people are aware of the Clapham Sect, a group of Christians whose shared faith and vision led directly to massive improvement in social wellbeing for the poor, downtrodden and enslaved in Britain and across the world. It is well worth researching and learning about them.

  • @lonster3000
    @lonster3000 4 дні тому

    Nonsense. You do realize the writers of the New Testament had access to the Old Testament? It’s easy to write a story that “fulfills” some prophecy from an older book you have already read.

    • @davidvivianaspinall3498
      @davidvivianaspinall3498 4 дні тому

      Have you read Urqhart? Or Josh McDowell?

    • @lonster3000
      @lonster3000 4 дні тому

      @@davidvivianaspinall3498 I have not, I had never heard of them before this video. But I spent many years reading the Bible. I have a hard time considering it as inspired given its failure to condemn slavery or child abuse, its abundant racism and misogyny, not to mention stories of talking animals, a worldwide deluge, numerous historical inaccuracies etc.

    • @cygnustsp
      @cygnustsp 4 дні тому

      ​@@davidvivianaspinall3498I love your videos David and Vivian but Josh McDowell is pretty embarrassing. Try looking up Dan McClellan. The Bible is really really cool and understandable if you get rid of the idea that it has one sole univocal message.

    • @ChristinaFromYoutube
      @ChristinaFromYoutube 4 дні тому

      You think someone would let themselves be skinned alive for not denying a lie? Boiled in oil? Crucified? Oh stop they'd immediately say "i was lying!" Before the skinning tools ever touched the skin if they were lying. I know liars. They would do and say absolutely anything to avoid emotional or physical pain and discomfort. The Apostles weren't liars.

    • @ChristinaFromYoutube
      @ChristinaFromYoutube 4 дні тому

      ​​@@lonster3000see how you pretended your issue was historical accuracy and then you very quickly admitted that you just don't like God and you think He is immoral? That's how liars operate. They immediately betray themselves.

  • @BiagioDAndrea-j9d
    @BiagioDAndrea-j9d 5 днів тому

    NEW LIGHT FOR JW ! IL BATTESIMO CRISTIANO È VALIDO SOLO SE COME DICE LA BIBBIA: NEL NOME DEL PADRE, DEL FIGLIO E DELLO SPIRITO SANTO ! LA SALVEZZA È SOLO NEL NOME DEL SIGNORE GESÙ CRISTO !

  • @toddhayes3506
    @toddhayes3506 5 днів тому

    JW Watchtower Religion is POISON

  • @toddhayes3506
    @toddhayes3506 5 днів тому

    Great Job Thanks JW Watchtower Religion LIES is DANGEROUS SCAM

  • @bunchlead
    @bunchlead 5 днів тому

    David and Vivian, would love you to do an episode of whether you think the JWs are into free masonry and the occult etc So much stuff linking C T Russell with Pyramidology etc.

    • @davidvivianaspinall3498
      @davidvivianaspinall3498 4 дні тому

      Have you seen our playlist about Johannes Greber? Or this video? "Pyramid & Pleiades -- Jehovah's Witnesses, WHERE's God? Russell says Pleiades, David says everywhere" ua-cam.com/video/Jt9-W_UMjE0/v-deo.html

    • @bunchlead
      @bunchlead 4 дні тому

      @@davidvivianaspinall3498 Wow, thank you so much. I’m going to make a nice cup of tea and watch this straight away. Much appreciated and keep up the good work.

    • @bunchlead
      @bunchlead 4 дні тому

      @@davidvivianaspinall3498 Great video, thanks. So, JWs always told me that Jehovah says he will have no other Gods before him and here was early pioneers of JW movement using pyramids dedicated to Egyptian God’s to calculate God’s heavenly dwelling place and the time of the end. The whole Watch Tower Tract Society movement is a deceitful, hypocritical and demonic circus.

  • @veronicasalas2666
    @veronicasalas2666 5 днів тому

    Omgoodness 🤦‍♀️ Thank you David and Vivian ❤️🙏🏻

  • @JohnSpruce-u2h
    @JohnSpruce-u2h 5 днів тому

    What a narcissistic attitude. They get it wrong and it's your fault because you doubt them. Shoving the fault to someone else. And it's still the same today. They are all narcissists.

    • @davidvivianaspinall3498
      @davidvivianaspinall3498 4 дні тому

      Sad, even tragic, the depth of the darkness. But as Paul says at the beginning of Romans, ALL men suppress the truth in unrighteousness.

  • @FireBall-ku9vv
    @FireBall-ku9vv 5 днів тому

    Incredible the arrogance flows freely till today.

    • @davidvivianaspinall3498
      @davidvivianaspinall3498 4 дні тому

      Hard to grasp the logic of their self-deception. The only explanation is the supernatural insight of Paul -- a veil lies upon their hearts until the Lord takes it away himself.

  • @michelejashinsky8409
    @michelejashinsky8409 5 днів тому

    The Watchtower Rollercoaster …….

  • @Antlil2023
    @Antlil2023 5 днів тому

    Thank you for your dedication ❤

  • @cygnustsp
    @cygnustsp 5 днів тому

    I find it amusing that i now have the same haircut Ray had

  • @contemplatingwithamaster
    @contemplatingwithamaster 6 днів тому

    Being a Jehovah’s Witness is like riding a ride at the amusement park; eventually you begin to realize hey look I’m on the ride in an amusement park; because you’re realizing your not a child anymore and you get off the ride; then you can help others to grow up too; by showing them, you can!