The game is free so they need to make money. You can get anything you want by grinding so there really is no issue to be had by paying for something. Most people that complain about micro transactions…can’t afford them
Everything in the shop is available to craft for guess what? Free stfu I’m no child and I can see right through a gatcha game and zenless zero is more greedy than this game lmao
“It’s free” is an awful defense of predatory business practices Warframe is sitting right there and they ever rip off mastery rank verbatim but no daily login rewards or way to earn premium currency If you love the game, more power to you but please think twice before typing in defense of corpos that want every dollar you haven’t even made yet
everything you can buy you can earn in game whats the issue? so what its greedy you can have self control and look past the maddness and be like "oh the game tells me i need to go here, here, and here to craft a 20 dollar descendant
Definitely a cash grab. It gives off the mobile game feel. Yes i can grind it out but lets be honest, the grind to play a character i really want just to see if i enjoy it is rough. Cash grab for sure
@@SdotMAULER All you have to do to show people you want them to spend money is put the skins in the shop... not STRUCTURE the game to lead you into buying things. If people are having fun and don't feel pressured to spend they will most likely spend MORE because it was their choice and not spending doesn't feel like things are being taken away from the experience. I feel like customization is hindered at every corner without spending money. It doesn't need to be that way.
Man people need to stop complaining, its a damn free game to play, everything can be obtained by grinding, atleast its not like a call of duty game where you pay $80 for the game, and then you pay $30 for a damn skin
you also have to buy ever color individually if you want to change the color of your skin and you can't use the colors on the DEFAULT costume. They gave us compensation for problems with the game and it included a MATTE RED color and you can't use it unless you buy a skin... So they said SORRY here's one color you can't use unless you buy a skin. And there are three skins you can buy that are the SAME as the default skin but a different color ... its just disrespectful.
@BasedBrave Make ya money then 🤣 Be sure to keep and Eye on it and Sell when it's high cause I dont forsee this game performing well for very long. Unless they change alot ... which I don't think they will.
@OzzyFan80 Free to play can make money without charging you for every individual color and then making each color disposable... let's not be disingenuous here. No one is saying everything they have should be free.
@@EyeonFGC not being disingenuous but that's how they want to make the money then so be it. I don't see why so many people get upset if you don't like it then don't buy it who cares what others do I mean really it is not your money so why care what others do. I am not a sucker I don't buy crap like cosmetics if you are a bird type person that gets excited over new and shiny costumes then spend money. It sounds like you like to buy cosmetics but are passed because the game charges for every little thing. If so then that's your problem not mine.
@OzzyFan80 Monetization like this becomes a plague on the gaming community because when other corporate mofos see how much another game made by Nickel and Diming their players they will do the same thing. Corporate side of gaming want to squeeze you dry of as much money as they can while putting out the least effort and giving the players as less as possible. It's crazy that you can't even understand why it's bad.
@@EyeonFGC I can understand what you are saying and yeah it is predatory but I see things as if you are that stupid to pay crazy amounts of money for cosmetics then that's just a personal thing because the cosmetics are for your personal satisfaction they don't improve the game at all. I can't see how you can't see that they are not a necessity to gameplay. If they were then that's something else. I can't help if there are people that are careless with thier money. Now Sony raising games to 70.00 that's another thing and if Rockstar came out and charged 100.00 for the base game for gta 6 then I can say yeah I agree because now it cost to actually play the game. On this topic of overcharging for skins ,sorry I can't agree with your point at all but there is nothing wrong with charging for skins hell Blizzard has been doing it for years with Diablo but there will always be whales to keep it going . I am not a whale so although I understand exactly that it is predatory and other companies can do it also but hey they can only do it if there are enough people to buy into it and unfortunately there are because if they're weren't we would be right here where we are discussing this. I can't care about that type of gross business practice because I am not a contributor to it. To each thier own.
@OzzyFan80 I will have to answer all of this later when I get home but to the first part you don't have to be stupid because you spend money in the game but the REASON I don't want to spend money In THIS game or buy things that just feel like cash grabs are because they are things that REALLY don't need to be paid for like the colors. I would 1000% without remorse buy a cool ass skin for my character BECAUSE it WILL enhance MY PERSONAL expierence but they are very BLATANTLY predators of that which is what makes me NOT want to give them anything. Look at the other video please where I am trying to use the colors lol
You can't get armor or gear to make your character look different in this game but they have cosmetics that cost money to make your character look different. The COLORS are seemingly one time use because they have a quantity and you have to buy those too, 25 premium currency a piece... the game is Greedy and Disrespectful toward its players when it comes to cosmetics. They said "Sorry" for issues at launch and then included 2x matte red color items as compensation that you can't even use unless you buy a skin because they don't let you change the color of the default outfit. Gacha games lately have been GIVING people pulls that usually cost a bunch of money as compensation so that the players DON'T have to spend money. How does a gacha game say thank you better than this game that DOESN'T have gambling in it lol. I get that games gonna have cash shops and cosmetics and I buy stuff from games but don't have your Cash shop insult my intelligence, if I think the game is worth it I will spend money without the game trying to use the dirtiest tactics to milk the money from my pockets dry, it makes me want to NOT spend anything at all.
@BasedBrave bruh... I get that ... but they KNOW players WANT it but won't give it to them unless they pay the money and in the most greedy ways possible. They don't have to do things this way to get people to spend money in their game. I am all about spending for stuff in games I have done it in plenty of other games but damn their monetization in this game is MAD greedy.
@@EyeonFGC its not greedy when you get literally get everything you can buy for money by just playing the game i already have 5 descendants crafted its not that hard once you sit down and try and learn this game im down for spending money but like some descendants are endgame thats why they are 900 caliber but you can also craft them by just doing what the craft guide tells you its greedy but its not like impossible to do
@DankDrops "Pay to be Unique" The customization in this game is Greedy I didn't really go in on the characters cause I was gonna buy the chick that goes super saiyan to start lol but I don't wanna give them anything because of how greedy the customization is.
ppl crying about monetization in a f2p game, psshh... go get a job bois and stop expecting for everything to be free for no reason like anybody owes u anything... dont wanna spend, dont spend, but stop complaining....(plus note: to everyone who talks mad shit about this game's monetization, check on warframe pls, cuz they literally got the exact same monetization system, with the exact same things in there, skins, characters, boosts, time savers and shit, and even how bundles work is the same, not only that, there isnt even much difference in prices but i dont see no one crying cuz "warframe bad cuz warframe no gift me everything in the game").
@isaac97dead73 I don't like they way Warframe does that shit either. I don't like specific things about Monetization in many different games. Some of ya'll have no line when it comes to this stuff and will except whatever garbage is shoveled down your throat.
It's not the fact that its cosmetics its the fact that that's the ONLY way to customize your character. There are no other ways to make your character look different than everyone else. If no one spends any money EVERYONE will look the same lol. That's how they set things up to push people toward spending money because they know people like to look different and be unique.
It's just a shitty way of setting things up cause I have nothing against buying cosmetics for money I just have a problem with how they choose to try and get people to spend money rather than giving the option to atleast change your colors for free or using armor you found or equipment to make your character look different.
It don't bother me that its there it bothers me that its the MAIN way to customize my character, If I want to look cool I have to buy it ... I can't even work toward looking cool. The way they go about implementing these things feels deliberately greedy, most likely because it is. I am super cool with paying for cosmetics when the game doesn't feel like its trying to peer pressure me into doing it by making sure I look super basic in a hub of people, why even have a hub if everything is Instanced ... because they want people to see everything that people bought to entice them to by because they look basic. This is a fact. Its so blatant that its clearly disrespectful.
I dont get it.... Is it just me or am i the only person who give a F about cosmetics or to customize your character? At the end of the day i play this game to having fun with my friends... So why everyone is complaining about such a stoopid thing. I payed 10 bucks to get season pass and thats all... i dont need fancy sht for each and every character. So why is this so fkn VIP for you guys? May i ask for an answer? Thx
@fatalaris_live1151 It is a surprise that people like to customize their character and expierence in a game. Just because it doesn't matter to YOU doesn't mean it doesn't matter to other people. They didn't make the game specifically for you.
Also watch the other video I posted after this showing me trying to use "the color red" that they gave us as an apology that you can't use unless you buy a skin. It's the disrespect of monetizing things the way they did. I am someone who will spend money in the game if I feel the game is worth me spending money in it. In this case I feel disrespected when trying to just do basic customization. Like change a color.
The difference is when I put on gear that drops in diablo my character looks different I can see the gear that I put on. There is none of that in TFD. There is ONLY shop cosmetics.
@@EyeonFGC bro if you looked into the descendant menu you can SEE FREE cosmetics that you unlock in game, then you can paint them with the free paint they give you in the "journal" section, tell me you havent played the game without telling me you havent played the game
@@EyeonFGC how did they disrespect you? They made a product that you find appealing in a free game. I understand the $100 for the ults but what is $20 $40 for an outfit/colors etc. I’m not even trying to be rude or disrespectful at this point. But my guy. It’s a business
@BasedBrave If you don't understand how making you buy individual, single use colors that can't even be used on the default outfit then I can't make you understand... you are sitting here making it seem like I'm saying that EVERYTHING should be free. Just don't be so fuckin greedy and people will WANT to give you more while also staying to play your game.
@BasedBrave Your time being worth more than your money is fine that's your perspective time vs. Money isn't what I am talking about tho. I am down to give them money but if you have ever seen talks where companies talk about how they monetize their games this is some of the worst ways to do it. They gave us a color as a "sorry" and I can't even use it cause I have to buy a skin first. If I was going to buy one now I don't want to because I feel disrespected that I came here to play your game and the game is trying to play me for a fool over something stupid. There are plenty of other games I can play that don't do what they are doing or at the VERY least don't try to play me for a fool lol. Even GACHA games give you more for messing up and make EXPONENTIALLY more than these games after. Cause they KNOW people will spend the money if they give players a reason to stay. Maybe if you put it in terms of an individual doing it to you and not a company maybe you'd understand.
I love how people defend "Free to play games" Little kids will learn there is nothing that's really for free.
@@damtheluck1965 not defending free games, but its still damn free, don't need to bitch and cry when things cost. Who cares about skin and colour.
The game is free so they need to make money. You can get anything you want by grinding so there really is no issue to be had by paying for something. Most people that complain about micro transactions…can’t afford them
Everything in the shop is available to craft for guess what? Free stfu I’m no child and I can see right through a gatcha game and zenless zero is more greedy than this game lmao
“It’s free” is an awful defense of predatory business practices
Warframe is sitting right there and they ever rip off mastery rank verbatim but no daily login rewards or way to earn premium currency
If you love the game, more power to you but please think twice before typing in defense of corpos that want every dollar you haven’t even made yet
everything you can buy you can earn in game whats the issue? so what its greedy you can have self control and look past the maddness and be like "oh the game tells me i need to go here, here, and here to craft a 20 dollar descendant
Definitely a cash grab. It gives off the mobile game feel. Yes i can grind it out but lets be honest, the grind to play a character i really want just to see if i enjoy it is rough. Cash grab for sure
Finally a comment that understands lol
@@EyeonFGC oh I get it man. I understood what you were saying
@@EyeonFGC obviously it's a business. But they want you to spend money. It's set up that way
@@SdotMAULER All you have to do to show people you want them to spend money is put the skins in the shop... not STRUCTURE the game to lead you into buying things. If people are having fun and don't feel pressured to spend they will most likely spend MORE because it was their choice and not spending doesn't feel like things are being taken away from the experience.
I feel like customization is hindered at every corner without spending money. It doesn't need to be that way.
@@EyeonFGC exactly. But that is the business model for this company. They can't help it. I don't think it will last long. But who knows
Man people need to stop complaining, its a damn free game to play, everything can be obtained by grinding, atleast its not like a call of duty game where you pay $80 for the game, and then you pay $30 for a damn skin
you also have to buy ever color individually if you want to change the color of your skin and you can't use the colors on the DEFAULT costume.
They gave us compensation for problems with the game and it included a MATTE RED color and you can't use it unless you buy a skin... So they said SORRY here's one color you can't use unless you buy a skin. And there are three skins you can buy that are the SAME as the default skin but a different color ... its just disrespectful.
@@EyeonFGCyeah I agree with that…it’s there way of saying…hey we are giving you a free dinner you just have to tip the waitress….if you want to….
I spent 20bucks on the first 5mins of launch and gonna spend even more….all these bottom feeders in my ocean 😅
@BasedBrave lmao How many Colors did you buy for 25 Calibur a piece 🤣
@@BasedBrave You talk like you got Stock in the game.
@@EyeonFGC I didn’t buy any colors yet but when I do I’m going to make a pink ultimate Ajax
@@EyeonFGC yeah stocks and bonds yes sir 😜
@BasedBrave Make ya money then 🤣 Be sure to keep and Eye on it and Sell when it's high cause I dont forsee this game performing well for very long. Unless they change alot ... which I don't think they will.
That's the way a free t9 play makes money. I don't buy skins because to me every 20 is 2 to 3 games on Steam 😁
@OzzyFan80 Free to play can make money without charging you for every individual color and then making each color disposable... let's not be disingenuous here. No one is saying everything they have should be free.
@@EyeonFGC not being disingenuous but that's how they want to make the money then so be it. I don't see why so many people get upset if you don't like it then don't buy it who cares what others do I mean really it is not your money so why care what others do.
I am not a sucker I don't buy crap like cosmetics if you are a bird type person that gets excited over new and shiny costumes then spend money. It sounds like you like to buy cosmetics but are passed because the game charges for every little thing. If so then that's your problem not mine.
@OzzyFan80 Monetization like this becomes a plague on the gaming community because when other corporate mofos see how much another game made by Nickel and Diming their players they will do the same thing. Corporate side of gaming want to squeeze you dry of as much money as they can while putting out the least effort and giving the players as less as possible. It's crazy that you can't even understand why it's bad.
@@EyeonFGC I can understand what you are saying and yeah it is predatory but I see things as if you are that stupid to pay crazy amounts of money for cosmetics then that's just a personal thing because the cosmetics are for your personal satisfaction they don't improve the game at all. I can't see how you can't see that they are not a necessity to gameplay. If they were then that's something else. I can't help if there are people that are careless with thier money.
Now Sony raising games to 70.00 that's another thing and if Rockstar came out and charged 100.00 for the base game for gta 6 then I can say yeah I agree because now it cost to actually play the game.
On this topic of overcharging for skins ,sorry I can't agree with your point at all but there is nothing wrong with charging for skins hell Blizzard has been doing it for years with Diablo but there will always be whales to keep it going
. I am not a whale so although I understand exactly that it is predatory and other companies can do it also but hey they can only do it if there are enough people to buy into it and unfortunately there are because if they're weren't we would be right here where we are discussing this. I can't care about that type of gross business practice because I am not a contributor to it. To each thier own.
@OzzyFan80 I will have to answer all of this later when I get home but to the first part you don't have to be stupid because you spend money in the game but the REASON I don't want to spend money In THIS game or buy things that just feel like cash grabs are because they are things that REALLY don't need to be paid for like the colors. I would 1000% without remorse buy a cool ass skin for my character BECAUSE it WILL enhance MY PERSONAL expierence but they are very BLATANTLY predators of that which is what makes me NOT want to give them anything. Look at the other video please where I am trying to use the colors lol
either spend money or play the game ? like i dont understand when you can grind a fun game for loot you want maybe its just me
You can't get armor or gear to make your character look different in this game but they have cosmetics that cost money to make your character look different. The COLORS are seemingly one time use because they have a quantity and you have to buy those too, 25 premium currency a piece... the game is Greedy and Disrespectful toward its players when it comes to cosmetics. They said "Sorry" for issues at launch and then included 2x matte red color items as compensation that you can't even use unless you buy a skin because they don't let you change the color of the default outfit.
Gacha games lately have been GIVING people pulls that usually cost a bunch of money as compensation so that the players DON'T have to spend money. How does a gacha game say thank you better than this game that DOESN'T have gambling in it lol. I get that games gonna have cash shops and cosmetics and I buy stuff from games but don't have your Cash shop insult my intelligence, if I think the game is worth it I will spend money without the game trying to use the dirtiest tactics to milk the money from my pockets dry, it makes me want to NOT spend anything at all.
@@EyeonFGClooking different is a want…not a requirement
@BasedBrave bruh... I get that ... but they KNOW players WANT it but won't give it to them unless they pay the money and in the most greedy ways possible. They don't have to do things this way to get people to spend money in their game. I am all about spending for stuff in games I have done it in plenty of other games but damn their monetization in this game is MAD greedy.
@@EyeonFGC its not greedy when you get literally get everything you can buy for money by just playing the game i already have 5 descendants crafted its not that hard once you sit down and try and learn this game im down for spending money but like some descendants are endgame thats why they are 900 caliber but you can also craft them by just doing what the craft guide tells you its greedy but its not like impossible to do
@DankDrops "Pay to be Unique" The customization in this game is Greedy I didn't really go in on the characters cause I was gonna buy the chick that goes super saiyan to start lol but I don't wanna give them anything because of how greedy the customization is.
ppl crying about monetization in a f2p game, psshh... go get a job bois and stop expecting for everything to be free for no reason like anybody owes u anything... dont wanna spend, dont spend, but stop complaining....(plus note: to everyone who talks mad shit about this game's monetization, check on warframe pls, cuz they literally got the exact same monetization system, with the exact same things in there, skins, characters, boosts, time savers and shit, and even how bundles work is the same, not only that, there isnt even much difference in prices but i dont see no one crying cuz "warframe bad cuz warframe no gift me everything in the game").
@@isaac97dead73 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 No one is asking for everything for free.
@isaac97dead73 I don't like they way Warframe does that shit either. I don't like specific things about Monetization in many different games. Some of ya'll have no line when it comes to this stuff and will except whatever garbage is shoveled down your throat.
Get yo money up and stop complaining. Its a FREE game, its a business what are yall expecting?
Bro 100 bucks a skin or 20 hours grind for mats forget that noise
its not 20 hours but okay took me 10 to clear the game and craft ultimate bunny now im working on ultimate gley just play the game
It’s just cosmetics 🤷🏻♂️ u don’t have to buy it lol
It's not the fact that its cosmetics its the fact that that's the ONLY way to customize your character. There are no other ways to make your character look different than everyone else. If no one spends any money EVERYONE will look the same lol. That's how they set things up to push people toward spending money because they know people like to look different and be unique.
It's just a shitty way of setting things up cause I have nothing against buying cosmetics for money I just have a problem with how they choose to try and get people to spend money rather than giving the option to atleast change your colors for free or using armor you found or equipment to make your character look different.
Very true. Dont know why people bitch about cosmetics, Dont want to spend on them, don't. Guess wouldn't make click bait otherwise.
@@EyeonFGC Yet. Im sure they will add some paints, or auras, or other things.
It don't bother me that its there it bothers me that its the MAIN way to customize my character, If I want to look cool I have to buy it ... I can't even work toward looking cool. The way they go about implementing these things feels deliberately greedy, most likely because it is. I am super cool with paying for cosmetics when the game doesn't feel like its trying to peer pressure me into doing it by making sure I look super basic in a hub of people, why even have a hub if everything is Instanced ... because they want people to see everything that people bought to entice them to by because they look basic. This is a fact. Its so blatant that its clearly disrespectful.
I dont get it.... Is it just me or am i the only person who give a F about cosmetics or to customize your character? At the end of the day i play this game to having fun with my friends... So why everyone is complaining about such a stoopid thing. I payed 10 bucks to get season pass and thats all... i dont need fancy sht for each and every character. So why is this so fkn VIP for you guys? May i ask for an answer? Thx
@fatalaris_live1151 It is a surprise that people like to customize their character and expierence in a game. Just because it doesn't matter to YOU doesn't mean it doesn't matter to other people. They didn't make the game specifically for you.
Also watch the other video I posted after this showing me trying to use "the color red" that they gave us as an apology that you can't use unless you buy a skin. It's the disrespect of monetizing things the way they did. I am someone who will spend money in the game if I feel the game is worth me spending money in it. In this case I feel disrespected when trying to just do basic customization. Like change a color.
Try playing diablo with how much cosmetics are and that isnt even a free game😂😂
The difference is when I put on gear that drops in diablo my character looks different I can see the gear that I put on. There is none of that in TFD. There is ONLY shop cosmetics.
@@EyeonFGC bro if you looked into the descendant menu you can SEE FREE cosmetics that you unlock in game, then you can paint them with the free paint they give you in the "journal" section, tell me you havent played the game without telling me you havent played the game
They stated in the future they will be looking at a way for players to trade goods. So for all you broke people out there…hush up and be happy
@BasedBrave lmao Broke? Some people rather be respected as a player of the game we take our time to play.
@@EyeonFGC how did they disrespect you? They made a product that you find appealing in a free game. I understand the $100 for the ults but what is $20 $40 for an outfit/colors etc. I’m not even trying to be rude or disrespectful at this point. But my guy. It’s a business
@@EyeonFGC my time is worth more then my money. So they can have my money. I’m enjoying the game that I’m spending time playing…that’s what matters
@BasedBrave If you don't understand how making you buy individual, single use colors that can't even be used on the default outfit then I can't make you understand... you are sitting here making it seem like I'm saying that EVERYTHING should be free. Just don't be so fuckin greedy and people will WANT to give you more while also staying to play your game.
@BasedBrave Your time being worth more than your money is fine that's your perspective time vs. Money isn't what I am talking about tho. I am down to give them money but if you have ever seen talks where companies talk about how they monetize their games this is some of the worst ways to do it.
They gave us a color as a "sorry" and I can't even use it cause I have to buy a skin first. If I was going to buy one now I don't want to because I feel disrespected that I came here to play your game and the game is trying to play me for a fool over something stupid. There are plenty of other games I can play that don't do what they are doing or at the VERY least don't try to play me for a fool lol. Even GACHA games give you more for messing up and make EXPONENTIALLY more than these games after. Cause they KNOW people will spend the money if they give players a reason to stay.
Maybe if you put it in terms of an individual doing it to you and not a company maybe you'd understand.