I have a FireFly from around 2017. LOVE IT. I shoot it with CCI standard velocity ammo always suppressed. At first it was a little unreliable, but as with all semi-auto guns, if you run them hard and hot a few times and deal with the failures the gun will ALMOST always loosen up and perform better. It's a natural function that the gun will "clean", polish, deburr, and remove small imperfections from machining that typically hang rounds, make slides slow, etc...NOT always instant gratification. You also have to VERY diligent about cleaning the pistol when shooting low velocity ammo suppressed - It gets SUPER dirty really fast. You gotta bust out the ole CLP and do some real cleaning EVERY time you run it more than a couple mags, otherwise they cake up.. And you're talking about a $200 pistol vs. a MKIV for $500 - of course there are quality differences. If you have continuous problems like the reviewer, I would suspect a bad mag. For the money mine has been a fun gun! enjoy.
I think you may have just gotten lucky with yours. There are quite a few comments on here about people having issues with their pistol as well. I have put many rounds through it, with cleanings in between and even with a good fresh cleaning it still malfunctions. It just seems to be a hit and miss pistol. Some have perfection with it, some don't.
@@ArmatisReviews MAYBE I actually got lucky for once in my life! I wasn't trying to give you a public lecture, I was just preaching. LOL Sorry if it came out wrong, Just wanted to remind other less experienced guys that it's not always the gun and sometime you gotta actually make an effort to make them function properly - polish/buff some parts, and clean the damn thing! LOL Love your channel., keep up the great work!
@@ThemHallBoys No worries. Didn't take it negatively or anything. It's unfortunate it didn't work out well for me. I wanted to love it. But I have found the Taurus TX-22 and it's been a great pistol. Thanks for the kind words!
I have had exactly the same issues as the reviewer. I have a dozen 22lr semi-auto handguns and NONE come close to the slide cycling issues this gun does--with either spring in use. This is a gun I really want to like, but I have found it to be very unreliable in cycling the round. However it really does well in regard to hitting the target in relation to shooter's skill level. Frankly, I have a reluctance to "pawn" this gun off on another buyer at any price. This gun really needs a big sticker on the box: "CAUTION Buyer Beware". In the alternative, I would highly recommend the Taurus TX22 and newly released Taurus TX22 Compact (my favorite), the Smith & Wesson M&P 22 Compact, the Ruger SR22, and the Ruger LCPII 22. Also, fun to shoot but not in my first tier; the Kel-Tech P17 and the Walther P22Q.
I had the GSG 1911 with the faux suppressor/ muzzle break and absolutely loved that weapon it was just one of the best 22LR I’ve shot and owned hate myself for selling it but hopefully the owner is happy and having tons of fun with her
This is the gun that introduced me to guns. It was the first pistol I've ever shot and it has been so far my favorite. I love the look of it, especially the desert color and threaded barrel. It is also a very fun gun to shoot. I am getting into shooting as more of a hobby rather than learning how to defend myself with a gun (although that is a bonus of having guns, I guess. It's just the laws here in NJ make it impossible 🙄) I am working on getting my FID card and I believe this will be the first gun I buy!
Glad to hear you are starting your journey into guns. It can be a fun (and expensive) ride. I hope your firefly runs better than mine has! And awesome job on getting the FID. Good luck with the process! Thanks for watching.
Not gonna lie, i had to do some hillbilly modifications to this gun to make it work. Works like a charm and even got a mag extension that allows for 17 rounds. For 120 bucks, its a great buy if you have the time to fix it.
I'd love to hear what you did to it. I still haven't tried making this thing work since I made this video. I need to try to polish the ramp as others have suggested. What all did you do? And which mag extension?
@ArmatisReviews so I ground down the ramp and polished it off to make it smooth. Then, the firing pin wasn't striking so I took an angle grinder to the part that houses the firing pin, (with the firing pin out). Then for the mag I bought this kit offline that allows for 7 more rounds in the mag. I can send you a link if you want.
@fartsfartington9019 Dang you really dug into it, didn't you?! Whipped the angle grinder out 😂 Sure if you can send it to my FB or Instagram page linked in the description that would be awesome. Thanks!
I love mine! I will say i had terrible issues with it until i shot and cleaned it many times until i was over about 1000 rounds and then about 3000 rounds later its awesome and suppressed or unsuppressed through all kinds of different rounds except the cci quiet and still cleaning it occasionally cycles amazingly.
I am glad yours is working great for you! (Truly. Not being sarcastic lol) I wish mine had. I have to imagine I've put well over a couple thousand rounds through it by now, but I don't know for certain. Oh well.
I wonder if it is just a .22lr problem. I have a 10/22 that has the same story. Everyone talks about how great 10/22's reliability is, i guess they just need to get broken in. Because .22lr is so underpowered, it probably just takes the gun longer to get broke in.
@@ArmatisReviews I tried the ramp polishing routine....didn't solve my problem. However, I do think it is a good idea to include manual q-tip and mothers or equivalent ramp polishing as a part of routine cleaning on all handguns
I am glad yours is working pretty well for you! I know mini mags and the higher powered cartridges work better in them, but I wanted something that I can plink on the cheap with. I have the Taurus TX22 that fills that role now.
This is a gun that confounds me. Its actually one of the best selling 22 pistols in the world, the people who buy it rank it very highly, and on Buds Guns gun critic it receives a score of 93 from their gun critics (whoever that is) but there's almost 300 of them. Its rated higher then a g44, tauras tx44, and many others. BUT...the utube crowd just hates it. Guess I'll buy one and see. I personally think there's a problem here. The same thing is happening to the g44, which I own, and know for certain is a fine pistol. Why does a gun endear itself to its buyers, and disdain from urine reviewers? Something stinks here.
Yeah, it's weird. I heard and read a lot of great reviews on it as well. I actually owned this pistol years ago when it was made as the Sig Sauer Mosquito. I had horrible jams with it as well and traded it in. I wouldn't have bought this FireFly except some people told me it was vastly better than the Mosquito and came with a spring for cheaper plinking lower powered ammo... But my experience with the FireFly was pretty much the same as the Mosquito. Disappointing.
I love it as a plink gun/critter killer. In a bind I would use it as a carry, and it really depends on the Ammo you put in it. I rarely have a jam after cleaning it the first time.
@@ArmatisReviews You may just have a "Lemon". All mass produced goods have some small number of copies that have something that isn't quite right. Polishing the ramp is probably a good idea. Regardless of your issues, I just ordered this gun because everyone else can't be that off on their satisfaction. Not with standing, we all get frustrated when the darn thing just doesn't perform to specs and expectations. Relatedly, consistency of ammo can be just as frustrating. I have a number of .22 handguns and sadly the only brand of ammo that very reliable is CCi and of course it carries a premium price compared to a lot of the bulk stuff.
I bought this gun 3 years ago. I have fired at least 5000 rounds and for the most part it has been flawless. The only issue i've had was when I used "Western," ammo which was 40 years old. Otherwise it swallows any ammo which I have used.
That's awesome. You are one of the fortunate ones. I expected mine to work very well from the reviews I had read, but mine had nothing but issues. I still need to try and polish the ramps and see if that helps.
@@papimaximus95 That's how the old Sig Mosquito version was. The GSG version was supposed to "fix" needing to use rounds like that and eat cheap plinking ammo well, but not for myself and many others.
Thanks for the review. I was looking at a green one at a local shop, $275 OTD. Had a threaded barrel, but couldn’t get off the thread protector to see what the pitch was. Even the clerk at the shop said it was a finicky gun.
I shoot twice a month and use the Remington "Thunderbolts" for target practice. I use the gun as my edc. When I carry, it is loaded with CCI "Velocitors." I get full expansion with it. Should I have to shoot someone with that round, they will have had a bad day.
@@ArmatisReviews I hear that "trust your life" phrase a lot. With the various variables in shooting, such as the gun itself, the ammo, gun cleaning and maintenance, the shooter's skills through training and keeping the training current (therefore shot placement), and the shooter's mental state under stress....to name some variables---the poor guns, whether .22lr caliber or others, may need a break from this phrase. The shooter needs to make sure his/her mechanical part of the equation, the gun, is viable for him or her regardless of the American marketing/branding industry which is not always in direct proportion to purchase price. If in the mind of the Shooter, he/she does not "trust" the operation of the gun for whatever reason (mechanical and/or ammo), the shooter should try something else. If I had a commandment, it might be: "Know Thy Gun and Its Variables as Thy Know Thyself and Thy's Capabilities with Thy Gun". Both gun and shooter or less than perfect of course:)
Thanks for the honest info. I want something cheaper, but not something unreliable. I'm wondering, could it be fixed/improved? Guess I'm just better off with a different gun.
Thanks for the kind words. Perhaps it can be fixed or improved, but I am not sure at the end-user level. Some people have suggested polishing the feed ramp, which I haven't gotten to doing yet. Some people have a great experience with it. It seems to be really hit and miss with people. For the money (especially how much the FireFly has come up recently) I'd suggest getting something like the Taurus TX22 instead.
@@ArmatisReviews After shopping around a little bit, that seems like my best bet, the TX22. Though I've also been recommended the p17, but I'm not exactly a fan of its aesthetics. Thanks for the advice!
Respectfully, the majority of the videos that I've seen like this one, is because the user does not know about the lighter recoil rod spring for "standard velocity" rounds, and has the heavier and wrong recoil rod spring installed and is shooting "standard velocity" rounds. The GSG firefly has the heavy spring installed by default for "high velocity" .22LR rounds. The best brands of ammo that I've used are Remington Thunderbolts, Aquila Super Extra that has the copper jacketed noses as well as CCI Mini mags. The slide is heavy and "high velocity" .22LR is recommended with that heavier recoil rod spring. If you are going to shoot "standard velocity" then switch the recoil rod spring to the "light one" that is in the back of the foam in the case that the pistol comes in.
I appreciate the respectful comment. I am aware of the different recoil springs. That is actually why I chose to give this another try (I owned the original Sig Sauer Mosquito many years ago, and had nothing but troubles with it). When I found out GSG was making their own branded version, and included a recoil spring for standard velocity ammo, I wanted to give it a try because I heard good things. When I was having trouble (with the standard velocity spring already installed) with the pistol originally, I thought to try the other spring (heavy) just to see if it made a different, and I still had malfunction after malfunction (with standard velocity rounds, which I understand is not designed for the heavy spring, but I wanted to try it to see if it gave me any different results). So, yes, I am aware of the different springs, and tried them both with plinking rounds with no joy to report.
@@ArmatisReviews The only standard velocity rounds that I would shoot with the lighter spring, would be ones that were truly "matched" rounds, and those tend to be more expensive even pre-inflation... and not the bulk stuff that says matched on it. The standard velocity bulk ammo, tends to have rough lead round noses and are going to be problematic hanging up in cycling and feeding especially again when we know that this gun's slide is also heavy. There is other standard velocity rounds out there that have smooth round noses for better cycling. Geco and Fiocchi are two that I know of. What happens if you use the heavier spring with CCI mini mags and other high velocity rounds? When I use high velocity ammo that have the copper jacketed round noses, I can get very accurate hits out to 25 yards.
I found that Remington Thunderbolts are the best ammo to fire through the Firefly. 500 rounds and 2 issues. Both were failure to feed. I have some Federal AM22 to fire next.
This is kinda like the new Taurus G3. Everyone seems to like it, it runs flawless,etc. Mine doesn't work with anything but FMJ range ammo. Very frustrating. The rounds nose dive into the feed ramp. But if I saw a GSG 22 on sale, I'd be dumb enough to get it. It looks cool. Never had an issue with my TX22. When my son shoots it he will have the occasional mis feed, but that's because he doesn't have a firm grip.
Yeah, it's crazy how people have vastly different experiences with stuff. I tested out the IWI TS12 shotgun and had a bunch of problems with it, where other people have had great experiences. I have a TX22 and I love it. I have been having problems with it failing to extract but honestly that's probably because I need to clean it really well. A good scrub down is on my to-do list and try it again.
So, I have had one for abut 2 yrs., put about 1k rounds through it. Seems to like most ammo, mine shoots flawlessly, always has, HOWEVER, it is real easy to misalign putting the rounds in the mag and when that happens the gun will shoot up to the misaligned round then, obviously, will not feed properly. I have watched other vids like this one and don't know what to say as mine has worked very well OTB and is really a lot of fun to shoot. BTW, mine eats everything. One other point, I know this is being very painfully obvious, so I apologize, but if you gun is jamming make SURE you are releasing the trigger enough to reset. A friend of mine had the gun, was misfiring and misfeeding at the range and he was getting more and more frustrated telling me it was a p o s. I shot the gun and it worked fine. He then shot and it misfired etc, we did this three times. On the third time I watched his trigger finger, saw he was not giving the trigger enough play, he changed his pull and the gun worked fine for him the rest of the day.
Yeah I've heard about rimlock and how to make sure you load 22lr correctly in the right order/stack so it doesn't lock up. I try to be pretty mindful of that. The trigger travel thing is interesting. I don't think that's the issue, as a lot of the stoppages happen when trying to eject. It doesn't seem like a dead trigger most times, but more of a cycling/extraction issue. But that's an interesting note I will try to pay attention to next time I go out. Thanks for the info!
I grew up shooting the sig mosquito! It was horrible! But I learned how to clear Jams so well I did it faster than any adult my dad knew 😂I can confirm only shot that super expensive ammo you mentions
Everybody on here saying buy a tx22 instead of the firefly.Try to find one in stock.I just bought a firefly on buds a nd i think its one cool looking pistol.I will follow some of the good advice on here in the comments if i have feeding problems.After i get it,if i dont have feeding problems,i will be back to let everyone know.These days,you have to take what you can get and try to work out any issues you have.
Yeah, unfortunately right now is a tough market to get most anything at all or for a reasonable price. They're coming back, though. Just depends on if you want to wait for the good one or get what you can now. Let me know how the firefly treats you!
@@ArmatisReviews Yes sir i will.I found out another recoil spring comes with the firefly if you want to shoot lower velocity ammo.I will use the thunderbolt and aguila ammo as long as its available.I dont plan on using it for anything but target shooting.
@@mikeforce5926 Yeah, I thought the other recoil spring would be the key to reliability this time around (I had a Sig Mosquito, same gun, years ago with the same issues but it didn't come with the other recoil spring) but it didn't seem to help in my case. :(
Yes it does very disappointed with the gun myself, just took it to the range loaded several clips with Federal high velocity and had one box of 50 rounds of norma that i put it through. So i think i went through 100 150 rounds did not count because my federal was a 525rd box. But out of all those rounds it ran flawlessly maybee 3 to 4 clips max. This was brand new out the box maybee next time i will clean and oil real well not sure if that will help i did add some oil out the box. Even my Marlin .22 mag Rifle acted up a bit today but it has been sitting it did not clean or oil it but ran fine the last several clips i ran through that. I probably will still keep the gun the fire fly because when it does work its a good shooter feels comfortable shooting.
Just to add i like regular ammo like 9mm my sheld runs flawlessly no matter what i put in it im not even sure i had 1 miss fire and I've put atleast a couple thousand rounds thru it.
Very much appreciate the honest review. I was always interested in this pistol. It looks like it might need to be opened up and fiddled with to make it more reliable. I was looking for a Mark IV but they are going for $700 right now which is absurd for a 22 pistol, so started looking at the firefly again. Anyone find or make a video on how to make it more reliable? I have a stash of cheap 22 ammo, not looking to get a gun that wont shoot it lol.
Wish I could help. I've basically just given up on it and moved on to my TX22. Although I may try to polish the ramp on this firefly as someone in the comments section suggested, just to see if that helps at all.
@@ArmatisReviews Yea I trust Taurus, I have a 9mm that works flawlessly, the TX22 looks intriguing as well but its also taken a price hike due to current events. Looks like it also used to be in the $200 range, last I saw one it was $400+ :/. Call me cheap but all my current 22lr firearms were under $200 lol, glad I got them before the current price hikes.
Did you try the other spring is it the same as the one on it might make a difference I was looking at one of these as a carry for my wife but I don’t want to get her something that’s unreliable any other suggestions for me as far as a carry for my wife
@@socksonfeet8125 in my area (OK), TX 22 is available at Bass Pro and Academy Sports at $300 plus/minus; its newly released little brother, the TX22 COMPACT is outstanding. It has 2 13 round mags and will shoot the 16 round TX22 mag as well. Recently got the TX22 Compact for about $330 at Bass Pro.
The newer models with the two springs doesn't say anything about needing to use high velocity ammo. In fact the manual states it comes with two springs and the smaller spring is intended for standard velocity ammo which I still had issues with: Information: The FireFly pistol has been constructed according to updated knowledge of modern gun manufacturing for caliber .22. We have therefore decided to make an adjustment to the loads that have priority for use with the FireFly, which are the two major groups, utility and high-speed rounds. So to increase the round compatibility, we provide two slide springs for every pistol. The bigger bored version is designed for high-speed loads and is fitted in the pistol with delivery. The simple coiled smaller spring (marked white) is for standard loads and is supplied with the pistol.
you might want to try polishing the feed ramp and contact surfaces, then run a couple hundred mini-mags through it, that should work out the kinks. If it still sucks with the cheap stuff afterwards, sell it. jmho. Great vid
I think the ammo needs to be both 40g and min 1250 fps. Did you try Aguila or Remington Golden Bullets which are HV and 40g? Did you polish the ramp as many suggest or even grind down the lip obstructing the pathway from the mag to the barrel? Seems like many have gotten the guns to run after doing these things and after putting many rounds through it. You must admit, the TX-22 feels like a toy. I know I'm in the minority, but I didn't care for it.
I tried many different rounds. Golden Bullets, Federal red box bulk pack, and others. I still haven't polished the ramp because I have just been busy with other stuff and getting my new gun room/studio finished. So that's something I still want to try. I don't feel like the TX-22 feels like a toy though. The grip feels great to me and when I grip it it just feels right. But as you implied, everyone is different.
Why does everyone expect all 22lr pistols to now hold more than 10 rounds? This design is several years old at this point and 22 double stack mags are fairly new.
Right, but that doesn't mean it's not a relevant purchasing factor today. Why pay for this when you can get a TX22 that's more reliable and holds more rounds? If this was super reliable it would at least have that going for it.. but being unreliable AND 10 rounds? Might as well get something else.
@@ArmatisReviews I agree, the big reason is because of the looks. However the capacity has been specifically referenced as though GSG is behind the curve similar the the Glock 44. The standard is 10 rounds and has been for decades.
How is it now? I've only had issues with mine for the first 1000 rounds. I've had mine for 3 years and have no issues with it. This is one of those guns where you have to shoot 1000 rounds before it stops having issues. a lot of people suggest polishing the finish off the feed ramp. I didn't have to do that on mine since i've put so many rounds through it, i guess it fixed it's self.
Honestly haven't shot it that much (if at all) since I finished up this review. If I am going to shoot a 22lr pistol I typically go to my Taurus TX22. I haven't had a chance to do many reviews in the last while because we moved to a new house so I haven't had a gun room/studio, and also had my first kid. Gun room/studio is almost done (like 94.357% done) so then I plan on doing more videos and polishing the feed ramps on the firefly are one of the things I want to try and see if it improves.
@@ArmatisReviews glad everything is going well and congrats on the new house. I would love to see the results after you polish it. It wouldn’t be a huge loss if you end up ruining the gun lol 😂
To be honest I haven't tried yet. We recently built a new house and moved so we've been focusing on house projects. We also have a bad drought here this year with fires getting started by target shooting and with the cost of ammo I just haven't been out as much doing gun stuff. Once I have my new gun room/studio built this winter I plan to ramp things back up though.
There's not a suppressor included with it unless a dealer decides to do like a combo deal. But I haven't seen that. The suppressors I use in the video are the SilencerCo Sparrow and the SilencerCo Spectre II
@@parkerazz4385 I'm assuming that's because the Mystic X is a multi-caliber suppressor. Suppressors designed for rimfire (so not intended for 223, 9mm, etc.) don't use boosters.. At least not that I have ever seen.
Thanks! I've heard some people have had great experiences with these but I have tried and tried to make it work for me and it just won't which is a shame because I really wanted it to.
A stovepipe in this case is typically when a spent casing gets stuck in the action after the gun has cycled and closed on the empty brass. So it kind of sticks up vertically and looks like an old stove pipe :)
That hasn't happened with me so far, nor have I heard of that. Have you actually checked the tip of the pin to see if it looks broken? Are there any primer strike marks on the cases at all?
@@ArmatisReviews The first time no marks, replaced the firing pin which didn't look no different, gun worked . Now maybe 500 rds. same thing. Waiting 2 months now for another firing pin, ( out of stock ) ugh ! Cool little .22 but not worth it if it doesn't go bang.
@@stevesapp4677 But are there firing pin marks now with the second firing pin? Can you hear the firing pin release when you dry fire? I wonder if the firing pin channel is really dirty and it's releasing but not with enough force to cause an ignition?
@@ArmatisReviews Thank you very much , you were right ! It must have had some thing hanging it up, it wasn't really dirty but it's back to firing and jamming , LOL
@@stevesapp4677 Let's goooooo (except the jamming part, boo!) glad it's working again. So that probably means your first pin is fine, and it just got gunked up or something and when you switched to the second one it freed it up for 500 rounds. Give it a good cleaning and see if it lasts longer!
I used various types of ammo. I have a lot of subsonic ammo that I run sometimes. Some of it was standard velocity as well. Depends on the ammo and their velocities. Some ammo won't be that loud with a suppressor out of a pistol barrel. You'll notice sometimes I have ear protection on even with the suppressor. But if you want really good sound suppression get some subsonic 22lr. Lots of companies make them.
It is intended to be used with cheap standard velocity plinking ammo. That's why it comes with two different springs. I'm not going to purchase the more expensive 22lr ammo solely for a pistol that runs like crap. Would you buy and only shoot expensive .223 precision ammo for your AR-15 to plink with if that's the only ammo it ran when it should be able to eat anything reliably? I doubt it. This pistol is supposed to be able to run the cheap stuff, but it doesn't. And judging by the comments on this video I am not the only one to have issues.
@@ArmatisReviews But see, 22s aren't very reliable to start with. So if you want it to run at all you do have to shoot better ammo. It's just a sad fact about 22 cal guns. However my Glocks & AR 15s run most ammo most of the time. Didn't mean to be ugly, sorry.
@@cadencero5313 No worries. There are always trolls so it's hard to tell sometimes haha. It's true 22lr can be finicky but a lot of the newer pistols have been pretty reliable. The Taurus TX22 has been great. I've heard good things about the Keltec P17 although I haven't shot it myself. I heard from people that the Firefly was one of the reliable ones but that wasn't the case in my situation. It seems to be hit or miss. Lots of people in the comments say their Firefly have been flawless and then lots say they had an experience similar to mine. Seems off and on, unfortunately.
The manual tells you to use CCI mini mags. I am almost always kind in my reviews but this one sucks.You clearly didn't read the manual and sound completely unsure of yourself. My Firefly runs flawlessly.
You're sure certain of yourself for being someone who is wrong. The manual says nothing about CCI Mini Mags, and even specifically says it comes with the two springs I mentioned for standard rounds: Direct from the GSG manual, page 10 of the digital PDF: www.americantactical.us/public/files/Manuals/Firefly%20ManualUpload_compressed.pdf "Information: The FireFly pistol has been constructed according to updated knowledge of modern gun manufacturing for caliber .22. We have therefore decided to make an adjustment to the loads that have priority for use with the FireFly, which are the two major groups, utility and high-speed rounds. So to increase the round compatibility, we provide two slide springs for every pistol. The bigger bored version is designed for high-speed loads and is fitted in the pistol with delivery. The simple coiled smaller spring (marked white) is for standard loads and is supplied with the pistol. "
@@ironsights1809 You act like I modified the manual to fit my agenda or something. I literally linked the current manual they have posted which does not mention CCI Mini Mags. If your manual says it, then they have clearly changed things as time went on. I'm not butt hurt. You're the one that came in swinging with hostility. I'm definitely not getting butt hurt from someone displaying the punisher logo as their icon lol. Cheers.
@@seungjae7462Well my apologies. I didn't mean to spam everyone's feed or notifications. Hope that wasn't the case. But thanks! I have been MIA for a while moving into a new house and whatnot. Trying to get back into the groove.
This pistol with the new springs are supposed to function with cheap plinking ammo, not just minimags. I'm not going to shoot minimags to exclusively shoot this gun. I wanted something to plink with. I found it, but not with this pistol.
@@alrightalrightalright- I can hear myself just fine. Maybe check your speaker volume? Perhaps you have tinnitus? I suggest finding a highly rated testing center near you.
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Glad I watched this before buying.
@@TheProAer I hope it helped!
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I have a FireFly from around 2017. LOVE IT. I shoot it with CCI standard velocity ammo always suppressed. At first it was a little unreliable, but as with all semi-auto guns, if you run them hard and hot a few times and deal with the failures the gun will ALMOST always loosen up and perform better. It's a natural function that the gun will "clean", polish, deburr, and remove small imperfections from machining that typically hang rounds, make slides slow, etc...NOT always instant gratification. You also have to VERY diligent about cleaning the pistol when shooting low velocity ammo suppressed - It gets SUPER dirty really fast. You gotta bust out the ole CLP and do some real cleaning EVERY time you run it more than a couple mags, otherwise they cake up.. And you're talking about a $200 pistol vs. a MKIV for $500 - of course there are quality differences. If you have continuous problems like the reviewer, I would suspect a bad mag. For the money mine has been a fun gun! enjoy.
I think you may have just gotten lucky with yours. There are quite a few comments on here about people having issues with their pistol as well. I have put many rounds through it, with cleanings in between and even with a good fresh cleaning it still malfunctions. It just seems to be a hit and miss pistol. Some have perfection with it, some don't.
@@ArmatisReviews MAYBE I actually got lucky for once in my life! I wasn't trying to give you a public lecture, I was just preaching. LOL Sorry if it came out wrong, Just wanted to remind other less experienced guys that it's not always the gun and sometime you gotta actually make an effort to make them function properly -
polish/buff some parts, and clean the damn thing! LOL Love your channel., keep up the great work!
@@ThemHallBoys No worries. Didn't take it negatively or anything. It's unfortunate it didn't work out well for me. I wanted to love it. But I have found the Taurus TX-22 and it's been a great pistol. Thanks for the kind words!
I have had exactly the same issues as the reviewer. I have a dozen 22lr semi-auto handguns and NONE come close to the slide cycling issues this gun does--with either spring in use. This is a gun I really want to like, but I have found it to be very unreliable in cycling the round. However it really does well in regard to hitting the target in relation to shooter's skill level. Frankly, I have a reluctance to "pawn" this gun off on another buyer at any price. This gun really needs a big sticker on the box: "CAUTION Buyer Beware".
In the alternative, I would highly recommend the Taurus TX22 and newly released Taurus TX22 Compact (my favorite), the Smith & Wesson M&P 22 Compact, the Ruger SR22, and the Ruger LCPII 22. Also, fun to shoot but not in my first tier; the Kel-Tech P17 and the Walther P22Q.
I had the GSG 1911 with the faux suppressor/ muzzle break and absolutely loved that weapon it was just one of the best 22LR I’ve shot and owned hate myself for selling it but hopefully the owner is happy and having tons of fun with her
I polished the finish off the feed ramp and polished the slide guides and mine works flawless with browning, cci, thunderbolt and even aguila 22
Interesting. I will have to try that and see if that helps. Thanks for the tip! I assume you used a really fine grit sandpaper?
@@ArmatisReviews I’m sorry didn’t mean to put “sanded”, I used a polisher with some polishing oil
@@dragonslayer3757 Haha I wondered. Thanks for the clarification.
Well shit, glad I opened up the comments. Noted, do not sand the feed ramp!!
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This is the gun that introduced me to guns. It was the first pistol I've ever shot and it has been so far my favorite. I love the look of it, especially the desert color and threaded barrel. It is also a very fun gun to shoot. I am getting into shooting as more of a hobby rather than learning how to defend myself with a gun (although that is a bonus of having guns, I guess. It's just the laws here in NJ make it impossible 🙄) I am working on getting my FID card and I believe this will be the first gun I buy!
Glad to hear you are starting your journey into guns. It can be a fun (and expensive) ride. I hope your firefly runs better than mine has! And awesome job on getting the FID. Good luck with the process! Thanks for watching.
Not gonna lie, i had to do some hillbilly modifications to this gun to make it work. Works like a charm and even got a mag extension that allows for 17 rounds. For 120 bucks, its a great buy if you have the time to fix it.
I'd love to hear what you did to it. I still haven't tried making this thing work since I made this video. I need to try to polish the ramp as others have suggested. What all did you do? And which mag extension?
@ArmatisReviews so I ground down the ramp and polished it off to make it smooth. Then, the firing pin wasn't striking so I took an angle grinder to the part that houses the firing pin, (with the firing pin out). Then for the mag I bought this kit offline that allows for 7 more rounds in the mag. I can send you a link if you want.
@fartsfartington9019 Dang you really dug into it, didn't you?! Whipped the angle grinder out 😂 Sure if you can send it to my FB or Instagram page linked in the description that would be awesome. Thanks!
I love mine! I will say i had terrible issues with it until i shot and cleaned it many times until i was over about 1000 rounds and then about 3000 rounds later its awesome and suppressed or unsuppressed through all kinds of different rounds except the cci quiet and still cleaning it occasionally cycles amazingly.
I am glad yours is working great for you! (Truly. Not being sarcastic lol) I wish mine had. I have to imagine I've put well over a couple thousand rounds through it by now, but I don't know for certain. Oh well.
I wonder if it is just a .22lr problem. I have a 10/22 that has the same story. Everyone talks about how great 10/22's reliability is, i guess they just need to get broken in. Because .22lr is so underpowered, it probably just takes the gun longer to get broke in.
Had problems with this gun since I bought it years ago. Just found out I can polish the feed ramp to fix the issue. Will have to give that a try
Let me know if it works for you! I haven't done it to mine quite yet.
@@ArmatisReviews I tried the ramp polishing routine....didn't solve my problem. However, I do think it is a good idea to include manual q-tip and mothers or equivalent ramp polishing as a part of routine cleaning on all handguns
@@tulsavol6653 Sorry to hear that didn't fix it for you. It's unfortunate that a lot of firefly pistols still seem to have issues.
I just bought one today. Cci mini mag, cci stinger, federal match feed reliable. Aguila super extra constant stove pipe and fail to eject.
I am glad yours is working pretty well for you! I know mini mags and the higher powered cartridges work better in them, but I wanted something that I can plink on the cheap with. I have the Taurus TX22 that fills that role now.
This is a gun that confounds me. Its actually one of the best selling 22 pistols in the world, the people who buy it rank it very highly, and on Buds Guns gun critic it receives a score of 93 from their gun critics (whoever that is) but there's almost 300 of them. Its rated higher then a g44, tauras tx44, and many others. BUT...the utube crowd just hates it. Guess I'll buy one and see. I personally think there's a problem here. The same thing is happening to the g44, which I own, and know for certain is a fine pistol. Why does a gun endear itself to its buyers, and disdain from urine reviewers? Something stinks here.
Yeah, it's weird. I heard and read a lot of great reviews on it as well. I actually owned this pistol years ago when it was made as the Sig Sauer Mosquito. I had horrible jams with it as well and traded it in. I wouldn't have bought this FireFly except some people told me it was vastly better than the Mosquito and came with a spring for cheaper plinking lower powered ammo... But my experience with the FireFly was pretty much the same as the Mosquito. Disappointing.
I love it as a plink gun/critter killer. In a bind I would use it as a carry, and it really depends on the Ammo you put in it. I rarely have a jam after cleaning it the first time.
@@ArmatisReviews You may just have a "Lemon". All mass produced goods have some small number of copies that have something that isn't quite right. Polishing the ramp is probably a good idea. Regardless of your issues, I just ordered this gun because everyone else can't be that off on their satisfaction. Not with standing, we all get frustrated when the darn thing just doesn't perform to specs and expectations. Relatedly, consistency of ammo can be just as frustrating. I have a number of .22 handguns and sadly the only brand of ammo that very reliable is CCi and of course it carries a premium price compared to a lot of the bulk stuff.
It's probably the urine that stinks, tbh.
Absolutely junk
I've had one for a few years, jams occasionally. Will try polishing as well.
Please let me know how it works for you!
Thanks for the honest review. Hate hearing this about such an affordable piece.
Thank you. I hated seeing it as well. I had high hopes for it.
What?????? Yall are crazy. I love mine.
I bought this gun 3 years ago. I have fired at least 5000 rounds and for the most part it has been flawless. The only issue i've had was when I used "Western," ammo which was 40 years old. Otherwise it swallows any ammo which I have used.
That's awesome. You are one of the fortunate ones. I expected mine to work very well from the reviews I had read, but mine had nothing but issues. I still need to try and polish the ramps and see if that helps.
@@papimaximus95 That's how the old Sig Mosquito version was. The GSG version was supposed to "fix" needing to use rounds like that and eat cheap plinking ammo well, but not for myself and many others.
When I change to the plus 4 follower and plus 3 base plate all of my jamming and feeding issues went away buddy, and capacity goes to 17 plus one
Interesting. Which follower and base plate? And which spring are you using?
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@@corychatman2734 Thanks, I'll check those out.
Thanks for the review. I was looking at a green one at a local shop, $275 OTD. Had a threaded barrel, but couldn’t get off the thread protector to see what the pitch was. Even the clerk at the shop said it was a finicky gun.
Yeah, it's unfortunate. I had high hopes for it.
Absolute piece of trash. First hand experience. Misfire, feeding issues, ejection issues. This gun does nothing correctly
I shoot twice a month and use the Remington "Thunderbolts" for target practice. I use the gun as my edc. When I carry, it is loaded with CCI "Velocitors." I get full expansion with it. Should I have to shoot someone with that round, they will have had a bad day.
I'm glad yours is reliable enough to trust your life to it. I wish mine had half that reliability 😂
@@ArmatisReviews I hear that "trust your life" phrase a lot. With the various variables in shooting, such as the gun itself, the ammo, gun cleaning and maintenance, the shooter's skills through training and keeping the training current (therefore shot placement), and the shooter's mental state under stress....to name some variables---the poor guns, whether .22lr caliber or others, may need a break from this phrase. The shooter needs to make sure his/her mechanical part of the equation, the gun, is viable for him or her regardless of the American marketing/branding industry which is not always in direct proportion to purchase price. If in the mind of the Shooter, he/she does not "trust" the operation of the gun for whatever reason (mechanical and/or ammo), the shooter should try something else. If I had a commandment, it might be: "Know Thy Gun and Its Variables as Thy Know Thyself and Thy's Capabilities with Thy Gun". Both gun and shooter or less than perfect of course:)
Damn, I saw one for cheap and I thought I was on to something. I guess guns are always going to be one of those things where you get what you pay for.
Some people claim theirs work flawlessly. I guess you could try it and see but my experience hasn't been great.
Thanks for the honest info. I want something cheaper, but not something unreliable. I'm wondering, could it be fixed/improved? Guess I'm just better off with a different gun.
Thanks for the kind words. Perhaps it can be fixed or improved, but I am not sure at the end-user level. Some people have suggested polishing the feed ramp, which I haven't gotten to doing yet. Some people have a great experience with it. It seems to be really hit and miss with people. For the money (especially how much the FireFly has come up recently) I'd suggest getting something like the Taurus TX22 instead.
@@ArmatisReviews After shopping around a little bit, that seems like my best bet, the TX22. Though I've also been recommended the p17, but I'm not exactly a fan of its aesthetics. Thanks for the advice!
@@writtenworlds Best of luck to you in your search, friend!
Respectfully, the majority of the videos that I've seen like this one, is because the user does not know about the lighter recoil rod spring for "standard velocity" rounds, and has the heavier and wrong recoil rod spring installed and is shooting "standard velocity" rounds. The GSG firefly has the heavy spring installed by default for "high velocity" .22LR rounds. The best brands of ammo that I've used are Remington Thunderbolts, Aquila Super Extra that has the copper jacketed noses as well as CCI Mini mags. The slide is heavy and "high velocity" .22LR is recommended with that heavier recoil rod spring. If you are going to shoot "standard velocity" then switch the recoil rod spring to the "light one" that is in the back of the foam in the case that the pistol comes in.
I appreciate the respectful comment. I am aware of the different recoil springs. That is actually why I chose to give this another try (I owned the original Sig Sauer Mosquito many years ago, and had nothing but troubles with it). When I found out GSG was making their own branded version, and included a recoil spring for standard velocity ammo, I wanted to give it a try because I heard good things.
When I was having trouble (with the standard velocity spring already installed) with the pistol originally, I thought to try the other spring (heavy) just to see if it made a different, and I still had malfunction after malfunction (with standard velocity rounds, which I understand is not designed for the heavy spring, but I wanted to try it to see if it gave me any different results).
So, yes, I am aware of the different springs, and tried them both with plinking rounds with no joy to report.
@@ArmatisReviews The only standard velocity rounds that I would shoot with the lighter spring, would be ones that were truly "matched" rounds, and those tend to be more expensive even pre-inflation... and not the bulk stuff that says matched on it. The standard velocity bulk ammo, tends to have rough lead round noses and are going to be problematic hanging up in cycling and feeding especially again when we know that this gun's slide is also heavy. There is other standard velocity rounds out there that have smooth round noses for better cycling. Geco and Fiocchi are two that I know of. What happens if you use the heavier spring with CCI mini mags and other high velocity rounds? When I use high velocity ammo that have the copper jacketed round noses, I can get very accurate hits out to 25 yards.
Change to the other spring they give you, its for match rounds. The factory spring is for 40 grain.
I'm pretty sure I talked about this in the video (it's been a while). I tried both springs and had the same issues with either.
I shoot cci velocitor. No issues with those at all
Yeah, it usually works well with high velocity rounds but it's supposed to work with cheap plinking rounds now too but that wasn't my experience.
I found that Remington Thunderbolts are the best ammo to fire through the Firefly. 500 rounds and 2 issues. Both were failure to feed. I have some Federal AM22 to fire next.
I wanted to add that both f2f issues came from a newer magazine I purchased. Not sure if that was the issue or just coincidence.
I shot a lot of Thunderbolts through mine. I have thousands of rounds of Thunderbolts and same issue. Didn't seem to matter for me unfortunately.
This is kinda like the new Taurus G3. Everyone seems to like it, it runs flawless,etc. Mine doesn't work with anything but FMJ range ammo. Very frustrating. The rounds nose dive into the feed ramp.
But if I saw a GSG 22 on sale, I'd be dumb enough to get it. It looks cool. Never had an issue with my TX22. When my son shoots it he will have the occasional mis feed, but that's because he doesn't have a firm grip.
Yeah, it's crazy how people have vastly different experiences with stuff. I tested out the IWI TS12 shotgun and had a bunch of problems with it, where other people have had great experiences.
I have a TX22 and I love it. I have been having problems with it failing to extract but honestly that's probably because I need to clean it really well. A good scrub down is on my to-do list and try it again.
So, I have had one for abut 2 yrs., put about 1k rounds through it. Seems to like most ammo, mine shoots flawlessly, always has, HOWEVER, it is real easy to misalign putting the rounds in the mag and when that happens the gun will shoot up to the misaligned round then, obviously, will not feed properly. I have watched other vids like this one and don't know what to say as mine has worked very well OTB and is really a lot of fun to shoot. BTW, mine eats everything. One other point, I know this is being very painfully obvious, so I apologize, but if you gun is jamming make SURE you are releasing the trigger enough to reset. A friend of mine had the gun, was misfiring and misfeeding at the range and he was getting more and more frustrated telling me it was a p o s. I shot the gun and it worked fine. He then shot and it misfired etc, we did this three times. On the third time I watched his trigger finger, saw he was not giving the trigger enough play, he changed his pull and the gun worked fine for him the rest of the day.
Yeah I've heard about rimlock and how to make sure you load 22lr correctly in the right order/stack so it doesn't lock up. I try to be pretty mindful of that. The trigger travel thing is interesting. I don't think that's the issue, as a lot of the stoppages happen when trying to eject. It doesn't seem like a dead trigger most times, but more of a cycling/extraction issue. But that's an interesting note I will try to pay attention to next time I go out. Thanks for the info!
Thanks for the review, glad I saw this before firing the one I just bought. I'll be returning mine tomorrow.
Really? You hadn't even fired it yet and you put your faith in some dude with his own opinion on the internet?
Wow.
Fixed barrel blow back pistols are very picky about ammo pressure for proper cycling.
Yes, but this is supposed to work with cheap plinking ammo. That's why it comes with two different springs.
Jams spoil the fun of Plinking! Thanks
I grew up shooting the sig mosquito! It was horrible! But I learned how to clear Jams so well I did it faster than any adult my dad knew 😂I can confirm only shot that super expensive ammo you mentions
Yeah the Mosquito was the best gun money could buy for malfunction drills!
Everybody on here saying buy a tx22 instead of the firefly.Try to find one in stock.I just bought a firefly on buds a nd i think its one cool looking pistol.I will follow some of the good advice on here in the comments if i have feeding problems.After i get it,if i dont have feeding problems,i will be back to let everyone know.These days,you have to take what you can get and try to work out any issues you have.
Yeah, unfortunately right now is a tough market to get most anything at all or for a reasonable price. They're coming back, though. Just depends on if you want to wait for the good one or get what you can now. Let me know how the firefly treats you!
@@ArmatisReviews Yes sir i will.I found out another recoil spring comes with the firefly if you want to shoot lower velocity ammo.I will use the thunderbolt and aguila ammo as long as its available.I dont plan on using it for anything but target shooting.
@@mikeforce5926 Yeah, I thought the other recoil spring would be the key to reliability this time around (I had a Sig Mosquito, same gun, years ago with the same issues but it didn't come with the other recoil spring) but it didn't seem to help in my case. :(
Yes it does very disappointed with the gun myself, just took it to the range loaded several clips with Federal high velocity and had one box of 50 rounds of norma that i put it through. So i think i went through 100 150 rounds did not count because my federal was a 525rd box. But out of all those rounds it ran flawlessly maybee 3 to 4 clips max. This was brand new out the box maybee next time i will clean and oil real well not sure if that will help i did add some oil out the box. Even my Marlin .22 mag Rifle acted up a bit today but it has been sitting it did not clean or oil it but ran fine the last several clips i ran through that. I probably will still keep the gun the fire fly because when it does work its a good shooter feels comfortable shooting.
Just to add i like regular ammo like 9mm my sheld runs flawlessly no matter what i put in it im not even sure i had 1 miss fire and I've put atleast a couple thousand rounds thru it.
That's a bummer. Hope it improves for you!
@@stevenstrawn5009 Yeah 9mm is usually pretty good. My Shield runs great!
Good ol Remington Thunderbolt. Runs great.
Thanks for watching!
Very much appreciate the honest review. I was always interested in this pistol. It looks like it might need to be opened up and fiddled with to make it more reliable. I was looking for a Mark IV but they are going for $700 right now which is absurd for a 22 pistol, so started looking at the firefly again. Anyone find or make a video on how to make it more reliable? I have a stash of cheap 22 ammo, not looking to get a gun that wont shoot it lol.
Wish I could help. I've basically just given up on it and moved on to my TX22. Although I may try to polish the ramp on this firefly as someone in the comments section suggested, just to see if that helps at all.
@@ArmatisReviews Yea I trust Taurus, I have a 9mm that works flawlessly, the TX22 looks intriguing as well but its also taken a price hike due to current events. Looks like it also used to be in the $200 range, last I saw one it was $400+ :/. Call me cheap but all my current 22lr firearms were under $200 lol, glad I got them before the current price hikes.
Did you try the other spring is it the same as the one on it might make a difference I was looking at one of these as a carry for my wife but I don’t want to get her something that’s unreliable any other suggestions for me as far as a carry for my wife
@@davidsadler7119 Ruger LCPII ,22. a pocket semi-automatic. It seems to be very popular. I carry it from time to time and shoots g--o--o-d:)
@@socksonfeet8125 in my area (OK), TX 22 is available at Bass Pro and Academy Sports at $300 plus/minus; its newly released little brother, the TX22 COMPACT is outstanding. It has 2 13 round mags and will shoot the 16 round TX22 mag as well. Recently got the TX22 Compact for about $330 at Bass Pro.
Yeah umim still getting it alot of people shoot with it fine
Seems hit or miss with people. Lots say theirs runs flawlessly and lots say they have issues. Hope yours works well for you.
Shoot super high velocity ammo. It recommends it.
The newer models with the two springs doesn't say anything about needing to use high velocity ammo. In fact the manual states it comes with two springs and the smaller spring is intended for standard velocity ammo which I still had issues with:
Information:
The FireFly pistol has been constructed according to updated knowledge of modern gun manufacturing for caliber .22.
We have therefore decided to make an adjustment to the loads that have priority for use with the FireFly, which are the two major groups, utility and high-speed rounds. So to increase the round compatibility, we provide two slide springs for every pistol. The bigger bored version is designed for high-speed loads and is fitted in the pistol with delivery. The simple coiled smaller spring (marked white) is for standard loads and is supplied with the pistol.
you might want to try polishing the feed ramp and contact surfaces, then run a couple hundred mini-mags through it, that should work out the kinks. If it still sucks with the cheap stuff afterwards, sell it. jmho. Great vid
Thank you! I plan on polishing the feed ramps in the future and see if that helps.
@Dillon Yates Wish that was the case for mine. I have welllllll over 100 rounds through mine haha.
Can you do a caliber conversion kit on the gsg firefly
Not that I am aware of. It's only made in 22lr and wouldn't be able to handle something like 9mm very well.
Why do you have a suppressor on a .22?
Because 22LR is above the pain threshold and causes hearing damage unsuppressed. Also because it's fun and I can.
I think the ammo needs to be both 40g and min 1250 fps. Did you try Aguila or Remington Golden Bullets which are HV and 40g? Did you polish the ramp as many suggest or even grind down the lip obstructing the pathway from the mag to the barrel? Seems like many have gotten the guns to run after doing these things and after putting many rounds through it. You must admit, the TX-22 feels like a toy. I know I'm in the minority, but I didn't care for it.
I tried many different rounds. Golden Bullets, Federal red box bulk pack, and others. I still haven't polished the ramp because I have just been busy with other stuff and getting my new gun room/studio finished. So that's something I still want to try. I don't feel like the TX-22 feels like a toy though. The grip feels great to me and when I grip it it just feels right. But as you implied, everyone is different.
Looks like one of the best malfunction trainers out there for under $200! 🤣
No lie detected 😂
Why does everyone expect all 22lr pistols to now hold more than 10 rounds?
This design is several years old at this point and 22 double stack mags are fairly new.
Right, but that doesn't mean it's not a relevant purchasing factor today. Why pay for this when you can get a TX22 that's more reliable and holds more rounds? If this was super reliable it would at least have that going for it.. but being unreliable AND 10 rounds? Might as well get something else.
@@ArmatisReviews I agree, the big reason is because of the looks.
However the capacity has been specifically referenced as though GSG is behind the curve similar the the Glock 44. The standard is 10 rounds and has been for decades.
How is it now? I've only had issues with mine for the first 1000 rounds. I've had mine for 3 years and have no issues with it. This is one of those guns where you have to shoot 1000 rounds before it stops having issues. a lot of people suggest polishing the finish off the feed ramp. I didn't have to do that on mine since i've put so many rounds through it, i guess it fixed it's self.
Honestly haven't shot it that much (if at all) since I finished up this review. If I am going to shoot a 22lr pistol I typically go to my Taurus TX22. I haven't had a chance to do many reviews in the last while because we moved to a new house so I haven't had a gun room/studio, and also had my first kid. Gun room/studio is almost done (like 94.357% done) so then I plan on doing more videos and polishing the feed ramps on the firefly are one of the things I want to try and see if it improves.
@@ArmatisReviews glad everything is going well and congrats on the new house. I would love to see the results after you polish it. It wouldn’t be a huge loss if you end up ruining the gun lol 😂
@adamzoubi7018 "GSG Firefly torture test: Firing it normally -- Will it survive?" 😂
@@ArmatisReviews that would make a great video brother. Can’t wait to see the results
My gsg firefly run flawlessly never had a problem with failure to feed or anything something wrong with just urs 😂
I've had lots of people tell me they have issues with them so it's not just mine.
@Lewis Thompson It definitely appears so.
Any update on polishing the feed ramp and such? Saw you reply to another comment about it and was wondering if u still had the same issues
To be honest I haven't tried yet. We recently built a new house and moved so we've been focusing on house projects. We also have a bad drought here this year with fires getting started by target shooting and with the cost of ammo I just haven't been out as much doing gun stuff. Once I have my new gun room/studio built this winter I plan to ramp things back up though.
dave is the truth.
Aw, shucks.
Is that the supressor thats included with it? Or a difrent one? Sounds Nice.
There's not a suppressor included with it unless a dealer decides to do like a combo deal. But I haven't seen that. The suppressors I use in the video are the SilencerCo Sparrow and the SilencerCo Spectre II
Oh ok thank You for the reply, yeah I had seen one that said it included a faux supressor and looked similar to this so figured i ask. Thanks
@@hectorr.s. No worries. I haven't seen a faux suppressor with it but doesn't mean it's not possible. Thanks for watching.
My friend has one of these, the newer one with the extra spring. We could not get it to run either.
Yeah, it's unfortunate :(
Mine works fine I live it it eats up all kinds of ammo
Wish I could say the same for mine *shrug*
Looks like it does not need a pistol booster because for a supressor because it is a fixed barrel?
Yeah 22lr suppressors don't use boosters.
@@ArmatisReviews
My mystic X does for pistols but this being fixed barrel it won't need it.
@@parkerazz4385 I'm assuming that's because the Mystic X is a multi-caliber suppressor. Suppressors designed for rimfire (so not intended for 223, 9mm, etc.) don't use boosters.. At least not that I have ever seen.
Great Review brother, keep it up! Seems Like a rough buy.
Thanks! I've heard some people have had great experiences with these but I have tried and tried to make it work for me and it just won't which is a shame because I really wanted it to.
Could you provide me the link to the suppressor / silencer you have on this gun?
Unfortunately I can't, but the suppressor is a SilencerCo Spectre II suppressor.
My gsg firefly is junk. Ftf / fte. Emailed ati about fixing it an never heard back !!!
That's unfortunate :( sorry to hear! I was told they were tons better when I bought mine and was pretty disappointed.
Just picked mine up today for 250
Best of luck with it. Hope it works better for you than it did me.
Has anyone run Federal Punch, in the Firefly ?
I personally haven't. Sorry!
So what IS the most reliable 22 pistol that can fit a suppressor?
Taurus TX-22 is a great option. Mine has been running great.
@@ArmatisReviews Well, Thanks! I'll look for one. What suppressor would you recommend?
@@deansmith7340 SilencerCo Sparrow, SilencerCo Switchback, OSS Rad 22, Dead Air Mask are all good 22lr suppressors.
@@ArmatisReviews Thanks! Would I need to thread or replace the barrel? ^_^
@@deansmith7340 Nope. One thing I love about the TX-22 is that it comes with a threaded barrel adapter already. Ready for a muzzle device!
Yes, it is worth it.
I'm glad it is for you. Unfortunately, it hasn't been for others. Such is life.
what is a stove pipe?
A stovepipe in this case is typically when a spent casing gets stuck in the action after the gun has cycled and closed on the empty brass. So it kind of sticks up vertically and looks like an old stove pipe :)
Where did you get the Suppressor??
Local shop
Has anyone had a problem with firing pins breaking , nothing visibly wrong just stop working .
That hasn't happened with me so far, nor have I heard of that. Have you actually checked the tip of the pin to see if it looks broken? Are there any primer strike marks on the cases at all?
@@ArmatisReviews The first time no marks, replaced the firing pin which didn't look no different, gun worked . Now maybe 500 rds. same thing. Waiting 2 months now for another firing pin, ( out of stock ) ugh ! Cool little .22 but not worth it if it doesn't go bang.
@@stevesapp4677 But are there firing pin marks now with the second firing pin? Can you hear the firing pin release when you dry fire? I wonder if the firing pin channel is really dirty and it's releasing but not with enough force to cause an ignition?
@@ArmatisReviews Thank you very much , you were right ! It must have had some thing hanging it up, it wasn't really dirty but it's back to firing and jamming , LOL
@@stevesapp4677 Let's goooooo (except the jamming part, boo!) glad it's working again. So that probably means your first pin is fine, and it just got gunked up or something and when you switched to the second one it freed it up for 500 rounds. Give it a good cleaning and see if it lasts longer!
What's the threading on the barrel?
9mm x .75 female threads. I have a Hughes Precision adapter in those which then gives me 1/2 x 28 threads for suppressors.
@@ArmatisReviews Awesome. Thank you sir.
@CAUSEDEATH GAMING 👍
Armatis what kind of ammo did you use for you not to wear ear protection Thanks
I used various types of ammo. I have a lot of subsonic ammo that I run sometimes. Some of it was standard velocity as well. Depends on the ammo and their velocities. Some ammo won't be that loud with a suppressor out of a pistol barrel. You'll notice sometimes I have ear protection on even with the suppressor. But if you want really good sound suppression get some subsonic 22lr. Lots of companies make them.
@@ArmatisReviews thanks your the Man I’m a Suscribe
@@dr.knuckles9149 Thanks my dude!
The smart thing to do is use the ammo that works!!!! DUH!!!!
It is intended to be used with cheap standard velocity plinking ammo. That's why it comes with two different springs. I'm not going to purchase the more expensive 22lr ammo solely for a pistol that runs like crap. Would you buy and only shoot expensive .223 precision ammo for your AR-15 to plink with if that's the only ammo it ran when it should be able to eat anything reliably? I doubt it. This pistol is supposed to be able to run the cheap stuff, but it doesn't. And judging by the comments on this video I am not the only one to have issues.
@@ArmatisReviews But see, 22s aren't very reliable to start with. So if you want it to run at all you do have to shoot better ammo. It's just a sad fact about 22 cal guns. However my Glocks & AR 15s run most ammo most of the time. Didn't mean to be ugly, sorry.
@@cadencero5313 No worries. There are always trolls so it's hard to tell sometimes haha. It's true 22lr can be finicky but a lot of the newer pistols have been pretty reliable. The Taurus TX22 has been great. I've heard good things about the Keltec P17 although I haven't shot it myself. I heard from people that the Firefly was one of the reliable ones but that wasn't the case in my situation. It seems to be hit or miss. Lots of people in the comments say their Firefly have been flawless and then lots say they had an experience similar to mine. Seems off and on, unfortunately.
Mile marker 19?
Never paid attention to the mile markers, but no, I don't believe so.
@@ArmatisReviews We lived in Saratoga Springs and used to go down there to shoot.
@@BillAlsobrook Right on!
The manual tells you to use CCI mini mags. I am almost always kind in my reviews but this one sucks.You clearly didn't read the manual and sound completely unsure of yourself. My Firefly runs flawlessly.
You're sure certain of yourself for being someone who is wrong. The manual says nothing about CCI Mini Mags, and even specifically says it comes with the two springs I mentioned for standard rounds:
Direct from the GSG manual, page 10 of the digital PDF:
www.americantactical.us/public/files/Manuals/Firefly%20ManualUpload_compressed.pdf
"Information:
The FireFly pistol has been constructed according to updated knowledge of modern gun manufacturing for caliber .22. We have therefore decided to make an adjustment to the loads that have priority for use with the FireFly, which are the two major groups, utility and high-speed rounds. So to increase the round compatibility, we provide two slide springs for every pistol. The bigger bored version is designed for high-speed loads and is fitted in the pistol with delivery. The simple coiled smaller spring (marked white) is for standard loads and is supplied with the pistol. "
@@ArmatisReviews Nice try. My manual says it! Instead of getting butt hurt make better videos.
@@ironsights1809 You act like I modified the manual to fit my agenda or something. I literally linked the current manual they have posted which does not mention CCI Mini Mags. If your manual says it, then they have clearly changed things as time went on. I'm not butt hurt. You're the one that came in swinging with hostility. I'm definitely not getting butt hurt from someone displaying the punisher logo as their icon lol. Cheers.
Why are we whispering?
We're hunting wabbits
33 days? Bruh
Not gonna lie, new to premieres. Didn't know people could see it this far in advance. Did it show up in your subscriptions feed?
@@ArmatisReviews Yeah I could see a ton of them on my feed. I'm looking forward to them!
@@seungjae7462Well my apologies. I didn't mean to spam everyone's feed or notifications. Hope that wasn't the case. But thanks! I have been MIA for a while moving into a new house and whatnot. Trying to get back into the groove.
Maybe work from a script for better delivery
Appreciate the feedback!
This man refused to use the one round that functions flawlessly in most .22 handguns 🙄
This pistol with the new springs are supposed to function with cheap plinking ammo, not just minimags. I'm not going to shoot minimags to exclusively shoot this gun. I wanted something to plink with. I found it, but not with this pistol.
Why is guy whispering
Turn your volume up my guy.
@@ArmatisReviews or ,gets this, talk like your trying not to wake ur mom up in the next room.
@@alrightalrightalright- I can hear myself just fine. Maybe check your speaker volume? Perhaps you have tinnitus? I suggest finding a highly rated testing center near you.
For this pistol HV ammo only
Not supposed to be that way. That's why they started including two recoil springs.