Matthias, you are a magician with wood, mechanical engineering, mathematics and your videos could not be of better quality. Great work! I hope you reap many rewards!
hey Mathias its always a relief to come home after a long frustrating day at school and hear your voice and watch your videos keep it up i know you can
I think this would look really nice if both the Yin and the Yang were inlays into a third chunk of wood that's a sort of neutral/middle color between the two pieces you used, then of course with a coat of varnish to bring out some more color. : )
It would get me further in, but I already used the thinnest available. If I was doing it again, I'd use a bigger bit because it cuts faster. A bit more chiseling, but still time saved over a smaller bit.
From the experience of tightness might you not try reduce the guid dowel diameter (or prepare a separate slightly narrower one) for the outline cut out? Making the guide's centre run closer to the template will move the centre of the cutter inward. Also noticed that the grain's direction for the inlay was not the ideal - but it's still early days?
Matthias Wandel Just Wondering, why don't you use some nicer finishes than that water based finish? Using higher quality finishes could take an awesome project like this to the next leval!
lol I did what you did at 5:05 with a really tiny piece of wood, like a centimeter thick. It get tossed across the garage and I dug my hand into the belt sander. It hurt alot xD
Good idea. I should have cut the other half out as well to make two wooden inlays to go into a circular hole. That would add the missing circle around the edge.
@Matthiaswandel I think what EmperorAst wanted to say by "2.5D" is that you cannot make things with complex undercuts like bent holes. Of course the objects are 3D since they are elongated along 3 axes. But this discussion is over-academical, isn't it!?
I meant the chisel you used to clean up the V on the Yin Yang. My Sheffield chisels are about 3/16" this and unless I regrind it (ruin it) I can't see cleaning up tight spots. Just wondered if you had a special chisel, or made one. Thanks for the reply.
Another great video. Been thinking about how I can inlay a gear shape and I can see all the 90 degree corners would need to be hand cut. Did you make your own tiny chisel or is that a specialty tool you sourced?
Wouldnt the Y axis be wrong since its on a hinge and not a linear bearing? For things like this its no issue, but projects with more depth i see issues...
So the bigger the scale, the better the result? So 3:1 would be easier and better quality than 2:1 because your wobbles would be a smaller movement scaled down?
What you could have done Matt was rout the two different 'colours' different depths and then smooth it. That way might be easier andtake less time (supposedly)
@Matthiaswandel I think what he is talking about is full 3D... to do so, all you need to do is have your template and the work-piece both on a rotational axis, where you can turn both of them upside down or any given angle by locking both axles together (maybe a chain, but I'm sure you prefer some wood-gears). Additionally, if you can make your router tilt, whenever you tilt the "needle" as well, that way you can get into various cavities...
I don't know why i keep coming back to your videos. I'm not a woodworker, i do not have any sort of skill on the subject, i work with computers, and will never use any of the knowledge gained from your videos. Still i cant stop watching. I am always amazed at the brilliance of your creations. Don't get me wrong, I am not a stupid person, rather the opposite, but what you do is way beyond my power of imagination and problem solving ability, You are an amazing person, and I deeply respect you.
oh! this gave me a great idea for a present. we can use the technic for painting a silhouette of a human you can do it for your gf or mother etc. thx Matthias
Im glad to see even the master uses sawdust and glue to make up over cuts,i'm getting a lot better at cutting along lines but still need to keep little jars of s/dust of the piece i'm working on just in case, MAC
If you used something delicate like a 1/8" router bit, or even 1/16" router bit, (assuming you could be careful enough and patient to not break the router) would you be able to use a solid steel rod that was 2x or 3x the size of the bit? Buying the right size steel rod and cutting it to length for the guide seems to be a good option as well.
If you mean in terms of depth, no. As long as the "zero depth" is set correctly, the Y axis will be scaled by the same factor (1/3rd, in this case). If it was on a linear bearing it wouldn't be scaled at all. The only issue is that with very extreme depths, the tilt of the router can make the edges of the cut slightly slanted. To avoid that, the mechanism would need to be more complex, to always keep the router (and the follower) perfectly vertical.
One way to help with the pieces fitting in would be to use a *very* slightly smaller follower when cutting out the inset, than when cutting out the piece to insert, which means the inset would then be a tiny bit larger. Not too small though or there would be gaps. Nice though - I bought the pantorouter plans a few days ago, hope to try things like this myself soon!
thank you for another great video. maybe you could get rid of flaws around the edges if you use a pointy routerhead along the edges of the hole and the same on the wood you lay in. the latter made just a tiny bit bigger than your sketch. so that the edges that meet both have corresponding angled edges. if i´m not clear please ask and i will make you a video on it.
Which tools? The pantorouter? because you use a guide for that so its kind of hard to mess up. Honestly the most skillful part about the whole video was cutting out the yin-yang shape with the box-cutter.
Cool, Man I've seen your work on your webpage before and you are a true genius !!! I'm really impressed by your work and technical skill .. :) have a good one //Ken1
I'm wondering about using a 3d printer to print out templates with the necessary thickness to use in this situation.... Or would they not have a fine enough resolution to get smooth edges?
Jason Law 3d printing would be fine enough, but it would just take forever. Much faster to make one with conventional means. A laser cutter might help though.
Matthias, you are a magician with wood, mechanical engineering, mathematics and your videos could not be of better quality. Great work! I hope you reap many rewards!
its amazing what becomes insanely interesting when you have an essay due in the morning
hey Mathias its always a relief to come home after a long frustrating day at school and hear your voice and watch your videos keep it up i know you can
I think this would look really nice if both the Yin and the Yang were inlays into a third chunk of wood that's a sort of neutral/middle color between the two pieces you used, then of course with a coat of varnish to bring out some more color. : )
+Whiskey Foxtrot needs a circle surrounding the symbol. do that in charred wood and it would stand out nicely :)
It would get me further in, but I already used the thinnest available. If I was doing it again, I'd use a bigger bit because it cuts faster. A bit more chiseling, but still time saved over a smaller bit.
Lighter projects for the time being... Thogh I'm keen to build some heavy machines again!
Does the fact that the pantorouter tilts for depth have much significant impact on its accuracy?
See my violin scroll carving video.
I have carved other 3d objects with it as well.
read the webpage. It IS a 3d pantograph.
From the experience of tightness might you not try reduce the guid dowel diameter (or prepare a separate slightly narrower one) for the outline cut out? Making the guide's centre run closer to the template will move the centre of the cutter inward.
Also noticed that the grain's direction for the inlay was not the ideal - but it's still early days?
Matthias Wandel Just Wondering, why don't you use some nicer finishes than that water based finish? Using higher quality finishes could take an awesome project like this to the next leval!
Just read thru the comments to see previous disucssions on that. Quick answer - no it's not wrong.
I could use a steel rod, but the clamp is only made for one size of rod. So that would only work for one specific size.
omg he seriously use clamps on paper and cardboard. I thought he would use like 2x4s to clamp them down. This guy is awesome XD.
Look up 2.5D_(machining) on Wikipedia. The violin scroll is definitely out side of the definition of 2.5d.
lol I did what you did at 5:05 with a really tiny piece of wood, like a centimeter thick. It get tossed across the garage and I dug my hand into the belt sander. It hurt alot xD
Good idea. I should have cut the other half out as well to make two wooden inlays to go into a circular hole. That would add the missing circle around the edge.
I experimented with a ring around it in the CAD model, but the ring would have had to be much thinner than the router could cut to look right.
@Matthiaswandel I think what EmperorAst wanted to say by "2.5D" is that you cannot make things with complex undercuts like bent holes. Of course the objects are 3D since they are elongated along 3 axes. But this discussion is over-academical, isn't it!?
Me: "I need to get ready for work".
UA-cam: *Recommends Matthias video*
Me: *Quits job*
I used a 1/8" cutter from the home depot.
More details on my website. Click the link in the description.
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Just the plans, sorry.
@Matthiaswandel, There is another video you could make, I'll watch it and thumbs it up just as fast as I thumbs up all your video's.
I would love to see this done with three different woods to better see the outline of the circle.
I meant the chisel you used to clean up the V on the Yin Yang. My Sheffield chisels are about 3/16" this and unless I regrind it (ruin it) I can't see cleaning up tight spots. Just wondered if you had a special chisel, or made one. Thanks for the reply.
where can. I buy this jicg pantograph
Matthias me gusto tu trabajo te deseo exito siempre saludos.y con gusto me suscribo.
I tried middle eastern relief carving, but it came out much smaller. I think your ying yang is bigger than mine :(
i thought you were gonna make a big round yingyang and not a half one in to a peace of wood. but you did a good job and with a good result :D
Tolle Idee. Es geht ralativ schnell.---Gut ---
Watching that piece fit in there made me really happy. It was very satisfying to watch. My night now feels complete. Thanks for the awesome video.
"So I had to take some persuasive measures."
*takes out mallet*
hehe
Another great video. Been thinking about how I can inlay a gear shape and I can see all the 90 degree corners would need to be hand cut. Did you make your own tiny chisel or is that a specialty tool you sourced?
Wouldnt the Y axis be wrong since its on a hinge and not a linear bearing? For things like this its no issue, but projects with more depth i see issues...
Amazing
Those damn window and door stops in the shape of the yin and yang symbol have ruined this shape for me. All I see now are door and window props:(
You should cut it out and inlay that piece into a 3rd type of wood.
not ying yang bro. yin yang.
So the bigger the scale, the better the result? So 3:1 would be easier and better quality than 2:1 because your wobbles would be a smaller movement scaled down?
What you could have done Matt was rout the two different 'colours' different depths and then smooth it. That way might be easier andtake less time (supposedly)
+Matthias Wandel can you design a Router-Latthe machine to duplicate designs? would like your thoughts
C.W P woodgears.ca/copy_carver
@Matthiaswandel I think what he is talking about is full 3D... to do so, all you need to do is have your template and the work-piece both on a rotational axis, where you can turn both of them upside down
or any given angle by locking both axles together (maybe a chain, but I'm sure you prefer some wood-gears).
Additionally, if you can make your router tilt, whenever you tilt the "needle" as well, that way you can get into various cavities...
wouldn't it be better to trace the outlines counter-clockwise when routing? ...just saying
Beautiful
@Matthiaswandel My bad, I should have worded that better. I meant "3D", as in like what a 6 or 5 Axis CNC Machine would do.
i dont really care about building anything, but i love this guy's voice.
I don't know why i keep coming back to your videos. I'm not a woodworker, i do not have any sort of skill on the subject, i work with computers, and will never use any of the knowledge gained from your videos. Still i cant stop watching. I am always amazed at the brilliance of your creations. Don't get me wrong, I am not a stupid person, rather the opposite, but what you do is way beyond my power of imagination and problem solving ability, You are an amazing person, and I deeply respect you.
oh! this gave me a great idea for a present. we can use the technic for painting a silhouette of a human you can do it for your gf or mother etc. thx Matthias
Best milling machine I've seen. Ever!!!
Im glad to see even the master uses sawdust and glue to make up over cuts,i'm getting a lot better at cutting along lines but still need to keep little jars of s/dust of the piece i'm working on just in case, MAC
I feel your inlay should be further set into a third type of wood.
can this pantograph do everything your copy carver can do
+Jordan Munoz No, they do different things.
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Like many of his videos ...
Gabaritodo could have a model, so I can do at home?
If you used something delicate like a 1/8" router bit, or even 1/16" router bit, (assuming you could be careful enough and patient to not break the router) would you be able to use a solid steel rod that was 2x or 3x the size of the bit? Buying the right size steel rod and cutting it to length for the guide seems to be a good option as well.
If you mean in terms of depth, no. As long as the "zero depth" is set correctly, the Y axis will be scaled by the same factor (1/3rd, in this case). If it was on a linear bearing it wouldn't be scaled at all.
The only issue is that with very extreme depths, the tilt of the router can make the edges of the cut slightly slanted. To avoid that, the mechanism would need to be more complex, to always keep the router (and the follower) perfectly vertical.
What kind of brush is that and have you tried using laquer?
One way to help with the pieces fitting in would be to use a *very* slightly smaller follower when cutting out the inset, than when cutting out the piece to insert, which means the inset would then be a tiny bit larger. Not too small though or there would be gaps. Nice though - I bought the pantorouter plans a few days ago, hope to try things like this myself soon!
thank you for another great video. maybe you could get rid of flaws around the edges if you use a pointy routerhead along the edges of the hole and the same on the wood you lay in. the latter made just a tiny bit bigger than your sketch.
so that the edges that meet both have corresponding angled edges.
if i´m not clear please ask and i will make you a video on it.
Which tools? The pantorouter? because you use a guide for that so its kind of hard to mess up. Honestly the most skillful part about the whole video was cutting out the yin-yang shape with the box-cutter.
Too cool. The possibilities with this are endless!! Now you just need is a 3D pantopgraph!
I wonder if you mike do a wooden bank.
Mattias. Well as, the hand has begun to live? Everything is all right? Thanks for video.
Hey Matt u r really good at what u do. Do u sell that pantograph or just the instructions on how to build it?
loved ur channel now i will look to wooden pieces in different way
Cool, Man I've seen your work on your webpage before and you are a true genius !!!
I'm really impressed by your work and technical skill ..
:)
have a good one
//Ken1
why did you use the a third and not a half reduction?
I would say because it's easier to trace around a smaller template than one that is double the size of what you're trying to carve out.
Great video, quick question. What is your wood jig that your router is attached to?
LeBreux Tactical its the pantorouter he made.
i love watching your videos. i don't do much wood work, but your still fun to watch.
Always enjoy your videos @matthiaswandel - keep it up please (quality and frequency). Many thanks.
sir pls describe the cutting tool u used. any link to buy this cutting tool..
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You are a God of wood :) its very interesting to watch your videos:))
This cut out can be done easily with CNC router.
+Henry Naw Seng Yes, and even easier with a pantograph.
+Matthias Wandel machine feeds
You should do giveaways of things like this, they're so good and i'd love to have some of the things you make.
@Matthiaswandel i bet you could make a lot of money selling the finished product.
Hi, what are those orange clamps you have used to hold the Yin Yang symbol to dry?
Look very useful
clamps
Epic!
PAC MAN!!
2:00 I guess that's a drill-press. See what I did there? Yeah, you did. Nice.
How did I get here..?
beautiful, and thank you for that sawdust trick.
how do you make the pantograph to a 1/3 scale?
why you just use the scissors ....
I'm wondering about using a 3d printer to print out templates with the necessary thickness to use in this situation.... Or would they not have a fine enough resolution to get smooth edges?
Jason Law 3d printing would be fine enough, but it would just take forever. Much faster to make one with conventional means. A laser cutter might help though.
For a one-off, absolutely. Maybe as an intricate template for repeated production use. Best use of time would be the goal.
im going to make this for my woodshop project, its going to be awsome!
Can you develop a CNC machine?
is your house made of wood too?
Wuao calidad madera ya completamente
You. Are. The. God. Of. Wood.
Dang you have a lot of clamps.
Santa was Matt's apprentice.
that work looks soo awesome bro...thankyou for sharing again:)
How about makings disc sander! (another project)
hay gua
some "persuasive" measures. -HAMMERHAMMER-
persuasive measures
How ironic, he is using cardboard from a saw
is that thor's mjolner??
Yin yang not ying yang !!!!
is there video of you build the machine?