Proof That AFFORDABLE Bluewater Catamarans Exist! [Full Tour] Learning the Lines
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- Опубліковано 7 лют 2025
- Manta Catamarans are one of the only catamarans that were built in the USA, and are arguable the only BLUEWATER catamarans built in the states. Unfortunately, Manta is out of business, so there aren't any new Mantas for sale, but the older ones are still strong, light, and bluewater capable. They're built to live aboard and cross oceans, and it's readily apparent in every aspect of the design. We were very impressed!
They're also built for performance, and although most have mini-keels, there are a few will daggerboards. I'd love to see how a Manta with daggerboards performs. It could be a serious contender for our next boat!
This particular boat I believe is priced fairly at $219,000, pending a survey, and it goes to show you that you don't have to drop half a million dollars on a good catamaran to cross oceans.
We're glad to be back and touring boats! Rest assured that we're going to make as many boat tour videos as we can over summer while still practicing social distancing the best we can.
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I'm a Manta 42 owner so I thought that I would clear up a few items.
While at anchor you can raise the jib using a halyard to allow easier deck crossing. I usually don't bother and just cross the deck in front the forestay and along the big crossbeam. That crossbeam is another nice feature that is characteristic of many Eric Lerouge cats (which the Manta is based on); it's robust and no maintenance vs the aluminum spar used in most cruising cats.
The carpet liner on the walls looks dated but I've grown to like it. It helps to reduce the sounds in the boat and is easy to clean since it's synthetic. If steam cleaning doesn't work you can hit it with chemicals if needed. The water stains on it are a good thing in my opinion as it gives you an early alert to a water leak that a panel would have hidden.
Sailed a Manta 42 "Reality" for 9 years as a full time live a board cruiser. Great boat for dry secure and comfortable living.
A few things about the Manta.While at anchor you raise the SELF TENDING JIB and it's out of the way. While sailing its always off to one side or the other and you can get around unincumbered.This boat is single handed easily and safely offshore from the cockpit. The engines under the beds have great access as can open the frond door and/or the bed lifts without removing cushions and is held up with pistons.Working on them is easy and cool since your inside with the AC blowing on you! We only run one or the other if we can't sail and rest one the non-motoring side for the quietness and it a bit cooler. The box they questioned in the locker was indeed a next gen 5.5 which will run one AC no problem all night. The wiring and mechanicals on the Manta is easily accessed. The monkey hair on the walls in the bedrooms actually wicks moisture away and provides some noise insulation. The fridge and freezer are air cooled and are very reliable. The helm seat is well protected from the weather but was a little stiff so I put a nice captains chair in that reclines. The bridge deck clearance isn't the best and I thought it
would slam a lot but the design is well thought out and I find it doesn't really slam...its more of a slap if that make sense and I only hear that when beating straight into a headwind. I've yet to see a Manta with crazing. This is one tough boat. 40 degrees upwind is about all I've been able to do and 45 degrees is even better. The downwind sail is like a magic carpet ride.... quiet and smooth. I looked at a lot of catamarans before buying this Manta and there is a reason the following is cult like.... the quality, comfort and safety on the Manta is hard to beat. I would not put a roller fuller up front. the boom jib is great and very easy to handle. As you walk towards the starboard steps behind the tv which swings out, there is storage and also below the tv in the cabinet.
I have to agree with Randi, the Jib Boom makes getting around more challenging.
Thanks, I was just looking at this boat on line and investigating Manta Catamaran yesterday. Great timing. Your video shows that the boat needs a bit of love which the photos did not show. And yes this an affordable owner versions catamaran. It is not old. it is a 2006. For that price you usually get a 30 years old bit up up charter boat with 4 cabins and 4 heads, a useless layout for live abord. I will put Manta on my chopping list now.
You all should buy this boat. Love to see you on the water again and there are probably enough things to do to keep you busy.
That white box on the stern end of the port lifelines is called a MOM (Man Overboard Module).
So happy to have you back! Missed you guys.
Good to see the lines are back, missed you guys.
I truly enjoy watching you're videos and I'm truly not trying to be negative. I just would really like to see you two do a refit on a newly acquired boat and see you guys do some long passages.
I watched your Seawind 38' 1160 rental review prior to watching this. Hands down I liked the Seawind much better. Congrats on the baby. Keep your videos coming!
The locking compartments are a great concept. You only want to use them for stuff you randomly need. You can make a jig that plugs into a cordless drill that will open them quickly and easily.
I really enjoy your boat tours, thank you both. Please bring your baby when possible that really makes it special. Be safe 🙏
Glad you're back! Missed your vids!
How cute. Matching scarfs
Good to see you both again. Glad you are both well and starting boat tours again. Take care and keep on trucking'.
Folks, enjoy the boat tours, watch each one. Thanks for doing these, I think they're very helpful. One thing I would ask to change is to let us know what the price is, in the video. A simple disclaimer of, the price as of May 24, 2020 is $X, is sufficient, and I'd bet those that are in the market for a sailboat are watching on their TVs. We certainly are and it's an irritation every time to have to go through looking it up. Of course, the benefit is that it gives those actually considering a sailboat, and who are the bulk watching, what the prices are, and what they can expect, whether they need to adjust their expectations, etc.... Those that are serious about inquiring can engage with the broker and begin the negotiations.
Thanks again,
KWL
K.W. Landry , for crying out loud! , watch the entire video! They carefully explained why the put the details in the description and not on screen! It's very simple to check it out . If you watching on the TV then just grab your smart phone and look up the details! And if your are looking for a boat by searching on your you tube feed on TV you can't possibly be serious! Please! Cheers Warren
I really love this boat. It's weird, but very cozy
Hi Folks, Nice have you back. Is Freebie out of the Keys yet? If so, I guess I can discard all that info Don gave me on boat movers. These boats were initially built by Endeavor employees in Largo FL. After a series of ownership and location changes they closed shop at Sarasota in 2008. Used Mantas of this vintage can have some electrical wiring issues. Apparently not so on this boat though. I am impressed you are looking behind the distribution panel. The batteries look especially well configured and installed. You are getting better. Go to the places that are not readily visible and obvious. That will tell you a lot about the builder and the owner(s). Layup was pretty good on these boats with lots of vacuum bagging to reduce resin and weight, but use caution. Not all Mantas were created equal.
Hey Ed, thanks for the kind words! It looks like the new owner has his own truck and trailer and will come and pick the boat up when the keys open up here soon.
Dont agree at all with the Nav station criticism. And on my boat I have a PC HDMI module (turns tv into pc). That is more than adequate. The wiring in that boat is Epic! Beautiful boat, would buy it in ONE SECOND if I hadn't moved to San Diego... The owner must have loved that vehicle...
Definitely a really solid boat
Really enjoy the boat tours. Glad you'll be doing more of them...just sorry about the circumstances. Thanks, and stay safe!
I am glad to see you are well.
Thanks Kevin!
Haven’t watched the video yet, but I’m glad to see you guys still out there!
Thanks for the tour! Interesting to see it. Great job guys!
haha, fascinating to see newbies first unguided walk-around on a Manta. BTW the way you get from one foredeck side to the other is to swing around forward of the forestay. And only a few were built by Endeavor, most were built independently and to a much higher quality standard.
Manta catamarans are very unique and have quite a "cult" following. Current and former owners absolutely love them and you'd be hard pressed to find an owner that has anything negative to say about them. I've always been impressed with people's loyalty to Mantas and compare their passion to Harley Davidson owners.
That may be a loaded affirmation?
@@brianballard1729 Not necessarily. Harleys aren't considered great bikes by anyone who doesn't ride them... they're gas guzzlers and they're noisy. Mantas may be loved by their owners and still not great for anybody who isn't the type for them, like Harleys.
Nice to see you back. Also noticed you are using different camera angles. You improve with each video.
thanks for the walk-thru
Looks to be in good order with a few DIY repairs/upgrades. Change the genoa to a furler. I like the layout and sturdy feel. I especially like the covered cockpit area - that wouldn’t be cheap to replicate. And the wiring looks to be in good order. You’d do well to seriously consider this, at the right price of course.
You are so right about carpet as a headliner. All the warning signs go up when I see that because it says a lot about the builder. It collects dirt and moisture. You can steam clean it but often that is the beginning of hidden mild and mildew problems. There are many better alternatives but carpet is cheap and covers a lot of transgressions.
I think that style of being more boatworthy and looking less like sn appartment in a protected marina is very appealing.
Guys love your vids!! An idea would be too put the make and model in the description .. maybe help too get more hits?
Good to see you guys doing boat tours again, hope you can find one you like.
I think they are not buying any shit, just advertising for boat sellers to get a commission😜.
Realtors...
Love your boat tours, nice to see you both again.
You're looking very pretty today Randi😊, nice to see you guys again.
What a great cat!!!! The design on the "old ones" ARE really cool...congrats as usual and looking forward to your next
Its like a more seaworthy gemini - nice. Looks like a great first liveaboard for the right couple or small family
I've been very impressed with the amount of livable space on these cats
Since you descend from the cockpit to the salon, you need a watertight door. if the cockpit was lower than the salon, it’s not an issue.
Great to see you back. Look forward to more great boat videos!
One thing most people neglect to inspect is the condition of the sails. This can be a huge expense when preparing to make way. Just an observation. A new suit of sails can easily cost $10,000.
@robbie G WHY ARE YOU YELLING?!?
Yay! Welcome back guys. We missed you.
Welcome back guys! Really enjoy the boat tours. That’s a nice cat for a newbie sailor who wants to mod it out the way they want. Hopefully you can do more cat tours for us. Cheers from Australia!!
Nice to see you back.
The jib boom is to facilitate self tacking from the cockpit. Notice the jib is smaller than on most boats with roller furling.
Great Video guys.
Keep these tours coming !!!!!!!!!!!
Great video. Definitely looking into Mantas. Glad you guys are back doing boat tours.
Until our adventures cross, fair winds and full sails.
You guys do a great job. I share your goals, except I've decided to do it at 60 on the hook. :)
The thing on port aft quarter that you were unsure of,is a man overboard module.hop you never require its use.
You made a very good point about the unused seacocks. A turn of the valve will sink the boat. Unused seacocks need a pipe plug or cap as appropriate.
They pointed out the washing machine isn’t hooked up,, so the sea cocks aren’t really unused. When the new ones are hooked up, problem solved
2:40 that’s definitely a 10” cleat. Smart man retraining his girls eyes to interpret things bigger than they are.
I was also a little skeptical about the 8 inch well in front of the door ha.
You guys do good work thank you for taking the time to share with all of us!
Art Deco cockpit wind screening. Nice.
Always need a big compartment to keep your hos in. Or hose?
Love your reviews, glad you are back making vids. Could you please tell us the headroom in the cabins when you do your reviews? Thanks.
Nice boat. Would like to see some more turn around room in salon and on deck but I am spoiled watching SLV.
OMG so excited for you guys!
Love this!!! I’d love more like this the $1.5M is cool but 90% aren’t that market
Other than the headliner panels and the cracked window, nice boat
Have you put a list together of all the equipment you would want on a well equipped SV. Blue water and Southern as well as Northern sailing?
thats a great cat, i wish. looks like a lots been spend on it some point in the past! great to see you uploading videos again
That is a very nice boat, reasonably priced. I still couldn't afford it but that's my problem :)
YOU SHOULD DO A VIDEO OF HOW MANY BOATS HAVE SOLD AFTER THE BOAT TOURS YOU DO,
Or flights to Charleston SC cancelled
I was just wondering when you were going to be back and here you are...Good to see you are back 😊👍
Welcome back!
Great seeing guys again, I wonder if after you give away freebe your considering another boat?
Welcome back, hoping you will become active again.
sweet live aboard
Glad ya’ll are back making videos. I must be super tight because I have not seen a boat yet that seems worth the asking price, or maybe it is just not in the cards for me to own one. Happy ya’ll are back though and hope to see a lot more videos, maybe the right boat and price will come along. Thank you and stay safe.
If a boat is listed with a broker, it's going to be over priced.
I wish we had cats on the market in Canada. Because it sucks to have to pay $2000 to be locked up for 3 days, then stuck at home for 11 days just to get it to BC. It's all mono hulls up here. There is probably a reason, but that config of a boat could be well suited for northern waters being easier to keep airtight.
I have read through all the comments and cannot find the price
If you want to have that carpet cleaned them the absolutely best & most thorough cleaning would be a truck mounted steam cleaner. A good friend of mine who owns a carper cleaning biz, actually lived in a houseboat on Lake Lanier in Georgia. Kings Carpet Cleaning!! Lol. Portable units and other types of professional cleaning services do NOT come close to a truck mounted steamers. Its more expensive but does the job the 1st time. Its gets deep penetration with a pressurized hot water blasted into the carpet fibers and then is immediately extracted by a powerful vacuum hose connected to a wand or handheld upholstery unit. A annual cleaning @ a cost of $200-$300 professional cleaning will make your carpet look brand new and last years & years. Be sure to purchase a few cans of 3m scotch guard teflon spray after each cleaning. The pros will offer this at an additional charge but do it yourself for half the price and a better coating. This is key to maintaining new looking carpet in high traffic areas or where spills might occur. The stain will not penetrate the teflon coating so when you do your annual cleaning, all stains come right out leaving you with carpet that will last a decade or longer. On walls, you could probably do every 2 - 3yrs. Its well worth the cost of the cleaning. We've tried every cleaner you can buy at the national big box stores, walmart, etc... and they may suck up some dirty water but even after you went over it thoroughly, a truck mounted unit can come behind you and still pull black water out of your clean carpet. These home appliance type units are good for spot cleaning spills and mud tracked in... i dont own a carpet cleaning biz or work for any companies in the biz, ive helped my buddy occasionally and seen 1st hand the difference it makes. So, im not a salesman... just passing on the info to help anyone who decides to give this a try. You will be so happy you did. If u live in the Atlanta, Ga. area, look up Kings Carpet Cleaning. Mike King has been in biz for over 30yrs and stays slammed without any advertising just on repeat biz and referrals. I dont know of anyone that has ever been unhappy with the results. He may be a good friend of mine but he's the best in the biz hands down and i say that on a purely professional level, not personal.
What about the escape hatch? Didn't see one
Nice video guys, keep creating .... BIG LIKE
That white box on the port aft rail is a M.O.B. Man Over Board module. Pull the pin & a self-inflating vertical marker and life sling is deployed. www.switlik.com/marine/mom8/features?hsCtaTracking=4d61597b-b3f8-4980-9deb-eb2d5167e483%7C4c96fb6b-ab03-4328-a6f9-7930717c7fdc
The black triangle is a boom break with the red & white line. boom-brake-walder.com/
The main sheet is end boom attached to the arch you can see it when you're looking at the solar. 0:6:22
Good informative video
Enjoy your boat tours. First time commenting been Subscribed since I seen yall on Sailing UMA. If you see this question do you think someone that is mobility challenged could operate a cat like this from the wheelhouse area??? I can't move around fast and have trouble being on my feet for anytime over about 10 minutes.
That unit looks like a heater/furnace and the tank on the port rail looks like a day-tank for diesel to pour into the diesel heater.
Not bad. Some cosmetic stuff but how many Hours on the engines and inquire about reliability of those Volvos. Thank for sharing.
Prouts were made in the usa also
non-opening forward ports in the salon and smaller door means very little ventilation in the tropics.
Practically designed boat. The carpet is protection from bumps and scrapes? And maybe extra insulation?
I’m assuming they can enclose the helm, judging on how they designed the rest of it.
$219,000... we have very different definitions of affordable.
Have to agree with that!!
That is a lot for this boat. But not a lot for a Cat. Absolutely more affordable than your average cat.
Very disappointing. It seems like they try to not offend the broker so they can still work with him in the future. This is maybe at the range of $120000 to $140000.
@@Rockingoodman Sure is a lot when you can get a similar Leopard 45 or Lagoon (much better for blue water also) for 30-50k less.
Archer Well!🧐La dee fuckin daa....
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For 90% of people 250,000 is something they will never, ever have.
@Will H are you really that out of touch?
If you make over a certain amount one house payment kills you on your taxes. Buying something else actually helps you on your taxes and that average cap for most families is over 200k a year. 250k for a boat is just another house payment. Easy peasy.
really sucks to think about that, but it just makes me save more and work harder.
Because 90% of people are lazy and know absolutely nothing about money...
@@LSkenny Yeah cuz school teachers, police, firefighters and service men/women are all lazy since they get paid crap and cant afford a 250k house. Amazing.
Welcome Back! Great looking Cat.
Omg. I worried you guys had thrown in the towel. I'm rooting for your success.
Thank you! We're not going anywhere!
Good observation about the raised "bridge" at the aft companionway door.
Have a good day
Like the layout. ops and design. Except for the fact that someone decided to put carpets as wall covering everywhere.
Glad you are back, I enjoy your videos. Tell us the secret.. how did you get past the police checkpoint to get into the keys? I belong to the Upper Keys sailing club in Key Largo and I have not been able to get there since the lock down started.
I have been looking for a cruising cat so this was good info.
If you find a boat that your serious about, the best advice anyone can give you is, hire an experienced marine surveyor!.
You will learn more about the vessel in one day that most in years!
Hello, I was wandering if y’all would consider a hardship case on freebie. I have a friend that’s a old sailor, but just middle age. He has had an unfortunate turn in his life. Anyway he is now homeless but not destitute and has the money to follow your needs of moving and restoring freebie. He just can’t buy one that he can live on and restore it. I understand that isn’t what your asking for, but I just wanted to ask. Thanks
You didn't show how the lines come back.
Are they all accessible from that protected cockpit?
Love it. Wish you did more cats!
If I am ever able to buy a boat, it'll be a sea catamaran.
Really good Cat to live aboard.
What year is this boat? I missed that. Thanx for the tour
2006
I wonder if boat funk is like RV Funk?
The white thing ..Think it’s a generator ..the high door step is called “freeboard “ ..
A higher freeboard is better for ocean sailing
Carpet walls are insulation to prevent moister build up.
A bit old style but it works well.
Price wise .. I like it a lot. Nice and cozy
Monk Petite hi , actually the high coaming At the forward end of the cotpit used to be called a bridge deck on a conventional boat , a very important safety factor in an offshore boat , largely forgotten on coastal cruisers and most catamarans these days .....making the interior to exterior flow as one , great for dock queens or anchor bound boats but for serious work a good high bridgedeck is important , you only have to get pooped once and fill the cockpit and you will know why you want one. For offshore racing the requirement is for the companionway to be capable of being locked closed . The modern so-called offshore capable catamarans with their huge sliding doors, while unlikely to be pooped in most situations but if they get into trouble they might be quite susceptible to flooding especially if they did not close the doors! Cheers Warren