Axes And Shields - Advantages Over The Sword
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- Опубліковано 19 жов 2024
- Axes were used as an alternative to the sword during the middle ages. There are a number of reasons why someone might use an axe instead of a sword, but here we look specifically at a couple of reasons why axes are good with and against shields.
Now that you’re stuck home it’s time to paint the shield, it’s been a few years now.
YES BROTHER! DON'T LET YOUR MINIES UNPAINTED!
@@knightshousegames oooooooooh, elegant. Reminds me of the Vetinari crest, black on black on black. Motto: Si non confectus, non reficiat ("If it ain't broke, don't fix it").
You need UV light to see the shield pattern.
@@chengkuoklee5734 Ah, a penetrating insight...
He obviously painted it with the French flag pattern
Bah, the only true method is to strap two kite shields to your arms and wield your pollaxe!
Japanese warriors do that. In some way. They strap big shoulder mounted shield like things. At last some people see it as “passive shield”.
@@TomaszDurlej you mean like the O-Yoroi? That's pretty much high rank Samurai armor. Shields weren't used that much in Japan due to the way they fought, that was mostly ranged, with spears or on horseback due adaptation during the Mongol invasions. They didn't had same Hellenistic past as European warriors so shield formations and shield-evolution in general were less important to them.
@@VVabsa yes, it's why I write "in some way" idk if this "Shields" was used in any even margin active way (like position body to make it face incoming arrows).
But some peoples see them as "Shields" others just oversized pauldrons. I'm not expert in marital arts, just enthusiastic about it. I can only repeat others words.
Seems like that would be kinda awkward to move around in.
THUNDERHAMMER AND STORMSHIELD NEXT TIME, BROTHER! EMPRAH PROTECTS!
siebensunden more than enough to destroy the enemies of the Emperor. NO PITY, NO REMORSE, NO FEAR!
God damn that stupid ladle and pan have lost me more games of Space Hulk than I care to think back to. I swear...
SOME 'UGE CHOPPA IS WAY MORE KILLY! WAAAAGH!
Puny shields nothing to warpstone. Murder-kill filthy man-things, yes yes.
My face is my shield!
Make a series where you basically teach writers of fantasy, shows or historical fiction the basics they need to know to write reasonably believable medieval combat and settings. It's a resource that's really missed, there are things we can do like see they don't understand how armor works and you can send them a video on that. But if there was a playlist you could point them to it'd go a long way into educating them and creating better content in general for everyone..
thats pretty much this whole channel.
@Uphorix Unfortunately that doesn't really work, since most people who are reading them don't care either. Lol
Shadiversity already has a good number of videos approaching this subject. Check them out!
And that's just writers. Filmmakers and gamedevs got it worse with the ignorance. I don't know about comic artists tho...
Some don't know any better and many don't care. Think of the silly movie trope of folks flying all over the place when hit by bullets: they know very well that it's baloney and yet they keep doing it for the entertainment value. It's the equivalent of the tour eiffel being visible from every window in Paris :-)
I'm very much enjoying this theme of axes.
Me too. Anytime an episode isn't focused on the awfully overrated sword, is a good episode.
Me 2
Axes rule!
When you axe Matt a question he doesn't messer around!
Bravo. * claps *
Ahh...nice s wordplay
It is just too damn satisfying to yank a shield off-guard with an axe, for then to just thrust in with the pike-end ^^
14th century footman being hit behind his shield: "Blimey! That was funky and interesting!"
Also, for a video topic: What would you say is the most specialized medieval European weapon? That is, what weapon is perhaps least versatile, but strong in one specific context?
@Colin Cleveland and most lance designs are too fragile to make a good polearm on foot... Makes sense!
@@knightshousegames I think the English would disagree strongly. A billhook with a spike was THE typical English halberd for centuries.
Definitely if you say tournament lances, they have practically zero use outside a tournament. There are also pikes specifically meant to push away ladders in sieges if I remember correctly
Bow.
@@gustavotriqui that's useful in ANY combat context where you can keep your distance, and also in hunting. No.
I love the amount of deep and practical consideration you put into mechanics like this - really well-observed!
Axes: the combat shotgun of the middle ages.
Not always the best tool for the job but the tool that can get any job done.
Yee olde blunderbuss.
@@Hercules1-v9m More like blunder boss.
@@ivymike2691 for axes, maybe. for shotguns NO
@@ivymike2691 Any job done? Any? Hmm... axes' shaft can break much more easily than a sword, though.
Plus, axes have pretty much one type of attack: slashing. While you have both slashing and stabbing attacks with swords.
They take a bit less time to train with, though.
Matt: "I also have a sword!" *Draws a knife.*
I was looking for this comment a mere minute into the video lol!
A messer is a sword, in both form and function.
Callum Turner you must be fun at parties
And also, it’s identity as a “knife” (which is what messer means) is about handle construction
Matt, base on my expirience fighting whit weapons that have full weight and balance there is a "fear factor" to it.
Even when fighting someone whit expirience when you swing that axe hard against them they will focus almost only in defending. They kind of forget about anything else and lets you gain the initiative for a momment.
Do you think that "fear" is a other factor to consider as an advantage for the axe???
They can as they say in chess change the tempo of a fight/game. However they are absolutely exhausting to use although not nearly as tiring as say a flail which on paper is by far the most powerful weapon. However it must be kept moving and takes a long time to get up to speed vs almost any other weapon. In my underwear and a shield vs a full armoured knight assuming I have unlimited energy and some decent skill that could be a very dangerous opponent to the knight.
Also for re-enactors a full weight axe, mace or hammer is too dangerously be used even when padded.
If you offered me $1 million to fight a heavyweight boxing champ with 32 oz gloves and gave me brass knuckles I would quickly turn you down. I used to box and I was fairly decent and furthermore I’m their size or bigger and nearly as strong. I would be eating mat way before I landed one punch and could be seriously injured possibly killed with a single hit from one of these monsters.
We train without padded weapons with full weight and full armor such as heavy gambesons, chainmails and full face helmets... Most of the time we don't use 100% of the force, Wich is normal when weikdding a weapon, that hole too much swing slows you down thing.
but, if you take a full swing, even if slower knowing the oponnent has time to block whit a shield I can tell you it will make you win the tempo, the percussive force of the impactes and the certainty that if that impacts armor or not you will have a bad day certainly plays a role in the usefulness of axes vs sword.
Knowing that you can reach out ant touch the oponnent spite their armor in ways the sword can not plays a role.
elmaxidelsur that’s some freaky stuff there. If I was young and fit enough I may play that game but concussion and broken bones are a real possibility with full weight maces, axes and hammers even in heavy armour. Still it’s definitely understandable that a swordsmen may play the waiting game against such a powerful weapon/foe. I certainly would. To do otherwise is foolhardy or the peak of bravado.
@@john-paulsilke893 Yea, consider that we only do this whit PROPERLY TRAINED FIGHTERS, years of training before you pick up a steel sword in figth like that.
And even that, to have a guy swinging a Danish axe, even if you know that when he does send a blow your way he will not use 100% his power it's something intimidating.
So far, nothing more than a bruise here or there, nothing that it's not gone in a couple of days and that you would not get in a rugby match for example.
Hey, Matt. Just a suggestion: maybe it would be good for the image quality (white balance) if you painted the shield with a darker colour. The way it is now, it seems to be messing quite a bit with the camera.
A grey or brown cover would do the trick. Otherwise he’s gonna need significant lighting gear which is expensive and not really worth the cost.
Heck, a stapler and some cardboard would do the trick.
@@john-paulsilke893 actually just turning auto-exposure off will do the trick
Great video as always. One of the best channels on UA-cam in my opinion and I've been watching it for quite a long while now. I do have to say, that although there is no top spike with which to thrust on the axe shown in the video, that option is not denied as the top point of the axe's edge/blade is very capable of providing the option of the thrust. It is not in line with the shaft like a top spike would be, and the measure is a bit shorter too. So that must be taken into consideration of course in how the thrust is delivered, but the thrust is there and can be done effectively. To tie in an example, when the axe head overlaps a shield edge and the shield is pulled away from the opponent's body to better expose the opponent, often a thrust can then straight way be delivered with an axe like the one in the video using the top point of the Axe's blade. Sometimes turning the wrist and forearm to guide the axe's top point of the blade to where you wish to thrust. We've done it many times both in slow sparring and in "full-on" sparring.
Again, this is a fabulous channel and this is a great video on a very interesting topic. Thank you very much.
"I'm gonna agin trying to keep this brief.." why?
I'll never understand why ppl. prefer to have short videos. I mean it is not just about just answering one question. I watch this channel, (amongst other things) because of all the addditional information (context) and presentation Matt gives us.
Matt is actually making an effort to keep these brief. Given his propensity for extended sidetracking, this is huge. And the information provided doesn't seem to be suffering.
I don't mind lengthy videos, but good job sticking to your goals.
Can you talk about how feasible it is to compromise spears with axes and swords ?
Good issue. With swords smaller than a Zweihander i'd expect it to be quite impossible.
I mean if someone grips their spear rigidly and just holds it still in front of you. You eventually damage it enough. Good luck convincing them to be so helpful though!
Definitely since spears are the unsung heroes of the battle field. They need very little training and in the hands of a brave formation also medium to heavy armoured with shields they are absolutely game changing. And in one on one they can threaten at medium close quarters to long and even ranged if the right kind of spear if there is a suitable backup weapon quick to hand immediately afterwards.
With little training, you can get to a 50/50 success rate with a longsword against a spearman of similiar training.
Rasgonras Do you have some evidence to back that up? People interested in warfare before guns became the main weapons generally think the spear is superior (hence its prevalence)
I'd love to see a video going through armor development in different periods and in different regions. Like, I'd love to know at what general points in time mail gave way to other forms of armor, and then into more plate-based armors. I assume that this is also different by region, and that these armor developments started in certain regions and spread from there. Teach me!
Very much enjoying the shorter and more frequent videos ... please keep 'em coming!
I kept giggling as the white shield messed with the exposure on the camera. Not an issue our forebears suffered. Another fun video. Thank you.
Thanks for the video Matt! I would very much love to see tests with side by side comparisons of say ax blows, hammer blows, and "murder strokes" from sword cross-guards and pommels. My guess is the swords will by nature or only having a thin blade to grip onto, be less effective even though the weight of the striking force is now at the far end just like the ax and hammer. Still much better than striking hard surfaces with the blade alone. Always been curious as to how effective reversing a sword to hit like a hammer is to the real thing!
I also theorize a stiffer blade should behave more effectively as a handle for murder strokes, with less flex on impact and so more force transferred to the target. Flexible blades should in theory lose more force, but how much, if at all I'm curious to see. It would be great to see multiple tests done by different channels using different targets.
As with any holding onto blades test, although it can be done without gloves so long as the blade doesn't slide in your hand, better to wear thick sturdy gloves for safety, grip and to absorb some of the shock from hitting a hard target.
Great video! I love these axe videos. If you have to hold the shield out further, i'd imagine that would fatigue the shield carrier much more quickly as well.
Thank you, my favorite weapon is The Axe 💕 and Vikings Berserkers style 😃
I'd love to see your take on the Montante, the iberian two-handed sword known as a specialized bodyguard's weapon of the renaissance.
This video taught me a lot about giving blows and hooking.
That's a beautiful axe you're using in the video. What type of axe is it? Any place where you can buy it?
I love ax’s for yanking shields out of the way .
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Your Sexualized Grandparents yeah I’m from the Midwest as American as you can get .
@@nickdavis5420 No, I meant like people in the US spell ax as axe.
@@yoursexualizedgrandparents6929 Not our fault y'all decided to axe the E.
@@spyrofrost9158 Ax and axe are both the proper ways of spelling it. Even people in the states spell it ax, nobody axed anything.
You asked for suggestions:
You could show us some useful solo drills, or solo training tips in general. Now that most of us can not train in normal way.
Also I would super useful if you could provide the stats of the objects you shown to us in written form, as overlay in the video or in the description.
You often mention the weight and length of the swords/sabres you show but it would be an additional improvement to see the numbers on screen as well. For a non native English speakers some numbers sound quite equal.
This would greatly help to compare all the nice things you show us and also allows us to present these numbers to unbelievers that still think a arming sword is about 5k and a one handed axe is at least 10kg.
Cheers and thank for the years of great content!
"Matt, why don't you just let me sleep?" - Me at 4:43am
You can rest when you die
This was uploaded approx 21:40 his time just because you are not in europe does not mean anything for when he uploads
When your axe and shield fall from your hand in battle, then you may rest.
I kid you not I'm watching the video here at 4:49 AM right now.
@@IIAndersII Must-do for true fans!
Some things that I've found while fighting with/against 1 handed axes with 12th century kite shields and weaponry:
Although you can hook things with the axe like shields and polearms. Ultimately the axe is held on a smooth shaft and is pulling against a strapped shield or 2 hands, so can easily be pulled out the users hand thus disarming them. Unless the axe user has particularly a particularly strong grip and arm muscles in comparison.
Hooking around shields then pulling back quickly does work!
But if the axe then gets caught and you're either left exposed with your arm outstretched and exposed with the opponents weapon free to wail on you unless you drop the axe.
Axes work well in groups as hooking can still pull a shield out the way or pin a weapon/arm giving a friend an opening to attack. A sword doesn't quite of the same ability to bind an opponent meaning the window of opportunity is much smaller.
Some people hold the axe about half way up the shaft to get greater control and reduce the likelyhood of it being disarmed. Amusingly some use it as more like a knuckle duster using the shaft to block weapons though these may just be a querk of our combat system.
Thanks for reading if you did :)
Hey Matt I'd like to see some discussion of particular application of axes on the battlefield. Maybe discussing of particular groups that used them. Maybe with discussion of how they were used and carried.
That was exceedingly useful.
As someone who works in video games, and isn't very keen on how weapons are categorised in many games... this is informative and creative. To expand on this, has your recent delving into axe & shield usage given you any different insights into how 2h axes may have been wielded/put to most effective use?
I imagine having a few big 2h axe wielders in the 2nd line of a shield wall, could create some good openings in the enemies' front-line if they could hook a few shields down/cleave a few skulls, or make an enemy raise their shield too high and be easy pickings for a friendly frontline shield & spear/axe fighter who could aim low, while a dane axe was being swung menacingly and effectively up high.
Really great video! There are though a couple of points to adress.
The first point is that there IS a point to thrust with. The upper "horn" of your axe blade has a point you can thrust with. If you aim a blow straight into your opponents head from the top, and he blocks with the shield, you can hook his shield down a bit and then jam the upper horn of your axe in his face for instance. The axe is not a good thrusting weapon, but there are thrusting attacks that you most certaintly can exploit.
The second is that an axes potential to destroy shield is actually one of the dangers of wielding an axe. Getting your weapon stuck in an opponents shield is a big problem. The shield should never be a target for destruction, but a target for manipulation.
Another advantage with an axe is edge alignment. I've never seen anybody mess upp their edge alignment with an axe to the point that it is a danger to their weapon. With swords this is a bit thing, especially with historical swords that were more fragile than modern reproductions.
But as I said, the video is great and none of these points are at all important to the core message of the video. Just details.
I'd like to see something on the military pick, which is kind of a specific weapon and would be great as a short.
I think some videos about battlefield tactics would be really interesting. Talking about specific formations and what counters what, etc. Maybe including diagrams? Specifically very interested in Spanish Tercios.
Matt Love the content.
One burning question I have involves how did combatants avoid a counter blow when they where committing to a lethal blow over a shield, or in any other focused all out attack within lethal measure? Could not one get their weapon arm/wrist chopped when they struck out with it and it became exposed? How important was gaining advantage to really exploit an opening to effect? If So what where the main advantages they tried to create?
On so many of these videos where the attack sequences are discussed their is limited or no discussion on how a skilled opponent could counter such an attack. I love a whole video on the realities of how a dynamic attacks and defending with sword and shields played out, where each combatant had both, or one had only an axe and the other a sword and shield. I know its a complex subject.
Thanks
Never been much into axes but I do have a couple of decent swords and a nice mace from Tod Cutler. Made my own buckler/small shield to go with the mace.
I'm rather enjoying these bits. They're extremely educational. I'd like to see one on pole arms in this style. Or perhaps an in depth look at European armor 9th through 11th century and the advancements made in that time with historical reference from museums or historical sites.
I took a few seconds to think about what the advantages would be without damaging or destroying the shield and I almost immediately realized it would hook over the shield allowing the strike to still possibly hit the defender even if they blocked the shaft of the axe.
Edit: Great video as always! I am glad to hear that the axe wasn't as useless as some people make it seem!
I know I have asked this a few times - but could you please do a video showing the evolution of show 18th and 19th century British swords were slung, the belt, straps, connections etc. Thank you
Hi Matt, would love to some Bowie knife training / practical usage videos please
Matt, i would like to hear hour opinion about if the use of war bows could have been efective in the armies of the 18th and 19th centuries, considering that at the time the soldiers wear no armor and the muskets had a limited range and rate of fire. And also during naval boardings. I dont know if sounds stupid, but is something that i’ve been thinking since a while.
Perhaps, but the amount of training needed to effectively wield a war bow vs. a musket basically makes it pointless to have bowmen in any relevant quantity.
Awesome. Matt, if you were to select best armor and weapons on foot and on horse, which one would you choose? Show and tell, please.
I learned that the hard way in M&B Bannerlord
Do you do any strength training or other fitness training or do you just use your swords, axes, etc for strengthening?
It might not be wise given the current situation, but I would like to see a combined arms video from you. Related to the axe topic getting your opponent to push their shield furter out or hooking the shield creates openings for a spearman. A mixed fighing unit of spearmen and axe+shieldmen could be more effective than a more uniform fighting unit.
Very interesting Matt, thanks. Do you think there'd be any significant differences if the 'defender' were using a boss-gripped shield as opposed to a strapped one? I'd imagine with a boss-gripped shield you'd probably have more ability to resist pull/push forces at the expense of more fatigue, but I'm not sure really.
I enjoy the videos where you talk shop like this.
weapon A compare and contrast to weapon B.
I didn't finish so you might say it, but I think swords have a big advantage in being a potentially low energy weapon. If you are in tense conditions with people all around, you might not be able to swing or hit hard, but if you can put the sword where you want it to go (nice and slow), you can then start to push without pulling the sword back. So, you can literally just put the tip where you want it at a speed that's guaranteed to put the tip where you want it, then increase the pressure, and a sword will be able to penetrate enough to matter.
Video idea? How comfortable would you be fighting with a throwing ax in regular melees? Is the geometry of the ax or the studiousness of it a bigger factor to make you less comfortable?
It's really fun to see the white balance of the camera struggling with the changes from black gambeson to the white shield. Paint your shield dark or wear a light colored top next time, Matt. But great content other ways!
Greetings Matt! I fought in the SCA and used wooden and metal shields and the metal shields were far lighter than the wooden shields. I'm wondering if some knights or perhaps professional soldiers would have commissioned metal shields to use since they would have been lighter and more durable. I apologize if this has covered already - Mike
“ you don’t want a spike in your face. That’s a bad news” 😂😂👌
Yank that shield down, then your bud runs one of those 9' Spears thru their neck!!! Just brutal!!!! Love the channel eagerly awaiting your next video 👍😷. Stay safe Easton's
Pila used in melee combat instead of throwing. An interesting, fairly little talked about topic and most importantly - another look at your new gorgeous pilum would be neat!
Matt, turn off auto exposure in your camera. it makes the image brightness unstable all the time when you move large dark or bright objects in the frame, for example that shield, it's white and bright and once you turn it to the camera the auto exposure system now thinks that the image is too bright and makes it darker.
Hello, Matt. I'd like to see a comparison between sword+buckler and sword+dagger
Also, when hooking, it helps to have a strong blow.
Have you any experience in tribal weapons from East Africa? I lived in Tanzania some years and brought back to Sweden things that know are all over my house ... On my wall I have a Masaii shield and two Masaii spears. I also have a Masaii sword (knife?) (called "sime") and a root club (called "rungu") ... These weapons are still used today for seminal purpose and for settle disputes with other villages or defend castles against wildlife ...
This guy was using a giant tower shield that took two hands to hold (his job was just to shield the men behind him) and I hooked the top with the ax head of my halberd and just pulled down using my body weight. I think I surprised him because he didn't let go and flipped forward and rolled on the ground. I was rather pleased with the outcome.
Thanks for the video Matt
I’ve always wondered why more period western axes weren’t made with spikes coming out of the top, you would think it would be an obvious advantage and a simple thing to do
I love this channel, Matt is obviously an expert on what he is talking about and is always so cheerful even though he is usually talking about methods of brutally killing people! 😃
Adds extra weight for a fairly minimal advantage.
@@SympatheticStrawman how much weight would it add?
Those axes were carried on the hip, so the point is aimed at your torso. If you angle it then it's where your hands will go. So safety to the user is a concern.
My thoughts are this:
-Axe and Shield work better for fighting in the line where you can hook a shield a drag it down and give your polearm guy behind you an opportunity to take down the target.
-Sword and Shield are better for duel-like situations for nimbler and quicker work which is what you need when you are alone and cannot really take advantage of the attack windows you create with hooking
Note: I assume equal skill with both sets and little to no other amour.
Idk, the hooking factor works both ways I would believe. Even if you don’t have a shield. Hooking a sword and using your free hand to grab the opponent sword hand or even punch. Disarming somebody’s weapon and rendering them defenseless. hooking somebody ankle and ankle picking them, putting them on there butt or back is very smart thing to do. Giving you leverage for more powerful and faster chops. In my opinion, I believe an axe is a great thing to use for tying up your opponent. Specially a one on one. Allows you to end the fight faster. Rather than have to get a precise angle like you would with a sword.
Hey Matt, love your content! I've been thinking recently about hooking with the axe... I told by someone a sword would protect you from a spear better than an axe, and though I was thinking I'd want a shield either way, I can't speak to weather an axe such as the one you have would give you mechanical advantage if you tried to manipulate your opponents spear. I've seen a couple comments about breaking spears with an axe as well(I think you talked about that years ago). What's your take?
holding your shield farther out- I'd imagine that would weaken your ability to take blows in the same way that holding a heavy object at arms length is harder than holding it to your body. It would also be more tiring for the shield-bearer. Is that a factor in this as well?
In the case of so called "viking" shields, they were not meant to take blows, they were meant to bind against the opponent's shield and did the most of the work. The axe/sword was only there to finish the opponent after the shield had created an opening.
In formation these weapons become ineffective since the shield doesn't offer enough protection at short range when using an axe. That's why spears were used.
Is there a chance to see you talking about different weapon combinations within units? I know your focus lies on duel situations because of your background and evidence of historical accounts, but it would be nice to hear your thoughts about pikes and halberds in cooperation for example.
Or an other idea that comes to my mind: hooks on weapons (like your awesome battle axe) and capturing enemies - is there any connection?
Suggestion: I would love to hear your thoughts on grip on various weapons say so-called icepick vs hammer vs saber. I know you have mentioned various bits for example the weight of the weapon affecting your preference, but I would be very interested in a more in depth look at how various grips effect your options for attack and defense, and how easy or hard it is to disarm you. I am not a martial artist, but playing with a baselard, I noticed that it is very comfortable to hold with the thumb on, and feels like it gives very good control. However, if I grab the blade I feel it takes almost no pressure to twist it out of my hand. With a sword I would imagine this would be magnified. Anyway, happy viral videos for you. Too soon?
Matt, how effective is the shield in your video against a Dane axe, poleaxe or halberd. I always wondered what would happen to the shield or the shield arm if somebody hit it full force with a weapon with leverage. How would it differ with a center-grip shield.
Was the dagger and the shield/the buckler ever a realistic option? Also I would like to know more about usage of hammers and maces.
Great content, thank you!
as Axes person only in Historical Reenactment i can agree since we are doing 8th century axe has many advantages such as hooking shields,spears even, sword is faster tough.
So in practice what were the risks around getting your axe caught/trapped in a shield if you ended up striking/piercing it?
Turn it one way, its a war hammer. Turn the other way, its a cleaver. With a little training, you can be the most dangerous peasant on the battlefield.
A sword is for show, an axe is for dough.
So I've read some stuff about the use of chemical weapons(chile/pepper powder, burning sulfur, smoke generating mixtures) & other less-lethal debilitating mixtures(ground glass/sand) being used. I guess hot oil/water poured down the side of castle walls & fire arrows also. How often were such things used during sieges or large formation battles?
Video suggestion: testing or just discussion on shield damage of pilum-angon vs. Franzisca. How did the shield types change changed the weapon of close distance missile weapon. If not the shield type, other reason for change from angon to francisca ? When and why did the francisca got replaced and by what. If not, why there was no use of close distance missiles anymore? They were important for a thousand years and then disappeared, why??? Cheers and stay healthy :)
Why do I love hearing the same things I have already learned over and over again?
You mention an opponent being forced to have a more defensive stance with their own shield when facing an axe like this, so that should also mean using a sword for them becomes even more difficult because of the angles you mentioned, just thought I'd add that I don't think you mentioned that particular point specifically.
I'm just gonna say, that in Birka, grave number 644, contained an axe head, a sword, a seax, a spear, a shield boss, and some arrowheads, as well as various other things suggesting the "inhabitant" was extremely rich, and yed - despite having a sword, and a spear, he still had an axe.
You could do a video about swords vs daggers as side arms used with shields.
"I'm gonna again, keep this brief" Matt mate, don't worry about it, we're in self isolation, we got time mate.
It was under 10 minutes. For Matt, that is lightning fast.
Hey Matt,
What sword do the treatises say is best at fighting a virus?
I watched some other sword videos, and people keep saying it's the Katana.
If you are wearing a helmet, you can keep a shield low even against arrows and swords and see very well.
Against an axe, your vision is either blocked by the shield or your head is exposed. Especially in a battle where attacks might come from different people, covering your head exposed your legs to attacks you can't see coming.
I’ve always wondered how a bill hook or other improvised agricultural tool would have fared in a combat situation. Possible future video?
Bills were feared...
@@edi9892 As were war scythes
@@edi9892 Yes, the English especially were known to use them, even nobility.
NevertrustaTory Yeah the Bill was pretty famous. Lots of paintings of people carrying it.
I’m not a medieval person obviously. But I do have my own English bill weapon. The thing is brutal. I can see why it was so popular. The sheer power of those blows is incredibly. And the multiple weapons attached to the head make it very versatile.
Brilliant
You could talk about using the 'hook' for other uses like hooking the reins or an arm to pull an opponent of balance or even to unhorse them.
A handax (Or I prefer a hammer) is easy to carry, too. They aren't as long, and the pommel doesn't interfere with your shield arm as much as a sword at the hip. During my re-enactment days (I was more of an armorer than a fighter, but I fought too) I usually fought with a sword, with a hammer (Fuller. Spiked back fuller, but basically a hammer) as a sidearm, because the sword had reach, but the hammer got in the way a lot less, when fighting with a shield. This isn't counting short swords, like the Gladius, Chinquedea, or Katsbalger. Basically, when I say "Sword" I mean arming sword, and other swords are longswords, hangars, broadswords, or whatever to be more specific.
I think another point might be that a sword (in addition to not being effective vs armour) *requires* more nimbleness to be effective, and I would argue as such they benefit a lot less than an axe or mace does from a shield. This is in part because one of the perks of a sword is that it is also very adept at parrying, something maces and axes suffer at, and a shield would only be in your way I'd expect. The fact that you can thrust better with a sword is kinda immaterial when you think about how ineffective an arming sword is generally at stabbing through plate, while an axe would definitely not be something you'd ignore.
Matt can you please about the use of military Rapiers in the battlefield ?
In a 1 vs 1 setting I don't imagine yanking a shield with an axe would open up many opportunities, since a shield could resume a guard in the same time for the axe to strike again. And, if you focus too heavily on hooking your opponents shield, you may ignore defense and get struck yourself.
Yeah I thought that as well. All you are doing is moving your axe and your opponent's shield out of the way giving your opponent's weapon a clear line to your body. If there's a top spike on an opponent's axe all you need to do when they try and hook is to lift your shield up and sideways. This will at prevent you getting stabbed with the top spike and will make it difficult for a few seconds while the opponent regains control of their axe.
Which vendor would you recommend for functional swords with realistic balanced weight? I am tired of the impractical wall hangers
How vulnerable is your shield arm to shock, both with an arm strap or a boss grip?
With your arm behind that kite shield, could an axe or hammer essentially paralyze your axial or radial nerve? What about breaking your arm, or hand in the case of a boss grip? Is bludgeoning someone's shield ever an effective strategy? Lastly, can an arm strap be manipulated by an opponent to trap or break your arm before you can let go of it? Hoplite sheils seemed to be loose enough that they would fall away freely if let go of, but in the medieval period, especially with riders on horseback, we see some varieties of shields that are strapped to the rider.
A major advantage of axes is that they were cheaper- less metal means they are more easily made, maintained, and replaced. They also have practical applications outside of warfare. Additionally, and especially if the axe has a spike, they are MUCH better against armor than any kind of sword, though of course the sword will cause fatal damage faster and easier if the opponent is poorly armored or has gaps in their armor you can take advantage of.
You can still thrust with the upper point of the ax head. It's enough to make someone flinch. Amazingly effective with certain great axes (imo)
Hello Matt,
What are the dimmentions of your shield used in this video?
I gave this video its 665th like. Someone else has the honour of making this a metal video.
It strikes harder, indeed. But being slower and less nimble, does it not leave the user more prone and vulnerable to counter-attacks?
I used to do reenactment and, as I'm sure others have mentioned, axes where not allowed in the group as they couldn't be used safely. We had one, heavily staged fight using an axe. To prove a point, I got hit a couple of times, wearing full armour. I was very used to getting hit by swords, and we gave 99% when fighting, but a couple of light blows with a blunt axe hurt, and a decent hit on a helm left you not knowing what day it was for a few seconds!
In fantasy settings there are often anachronistic weapon combinations. How would a rapier deal with various forms of armor? Could you effectively half sword with one or is it too thin etc.?
For some reason, I thought he looked like an elf.
Another Schola video watched en garde. Sound historical and martial information (to the best of my knowledge), as always. You compared sword and axe alone, you compared them paired with shields - you should compare 2 handed version next to be thorough lol. Also, if sword and shield is good against spear and shield, how does axe and shield do against spear and shield?
Matt can you talk about the estoc? The medieval two handed estoc i mean, is a weapon underrated for some reason.