The Direct 3-3 Invasion Keep it Simple!

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  • @KeeganTawa0
    @KeeganTawa0 3 роки тому +100

    "In the year 1917, AlphaGo played sixty games against top human players." I now have the premise of my new breakthrough Scifi novel. Thank you Michael Redmond!

    • @KeeganTawa0
      @KeeganTawa0 3 роки тому +6

      Also, thanks for this great video!

    • @bessermt
      @bessermt Рік тому

      Aka Skynet

  • @paulbloemen7256
    @paulbloemen7256 4 роки тому +52

    I admire your ability to refrain from telling “everything”, to focus on the essentials.

  • @SimpleDays101
    @SimpleDays101 4 роки тому +90

    Ah, yes, alphago in 1917.

    • @Algernon7
      @Algernon7 3 роки тому +35

      One of the many wonderful and terrible inventions to come out of the First World War.

    • @eclecticwinds
      @eclecticwinds 3 роки тому +4

      For a second I thought I was mishearing him. 🤣

  • @いわかず-n7f
    @いわかず-n7f 4 роки тому +43

    Thank you very much for your video. My hobby is playing the igo, and I am studying ENGLISH now, although I am Japanese. I can enjoy to learn both of IGO and ENGLISH at the same time , thus I am very happy!

    • @MichaelRedmondsGoTV
      @MichaelRedmondsGoTV  4 роки тому +9

      Thank You! Look for weekly videos is both Japanese and English!

  • @pviola314
    @pviola314 4 роки тому +20

    This channel will inspire a new generation of go players outside the stronghold of China-Japan-Korea I hope!

  • @georgesmith827
    @georgesmith827 3 роки тому +5

    Thank you for sharing these videos. So many “GO teachers” just show game play without actually explaining the logic behind the moves. You do such a great job of actually showing the variations and explaining the value in each move. Thanks for sharing your knowledge.

  • @creatspirit
    @creatspirit 4 роки тому +23

    I have been waiting for this channel since you started the alphago series! Thank you for finally finding the time and energy to start this.

  • @phillipdeville1691
    @phillipdeville1691 4 роки тому +6

    Beginner here, very interested in this game -- wish I would have discovered it sooner, I am kind of long in the tooth, so I don't know much about Go, but I can say, as a beginner, your commentary and lesson were well-paced and ideas conveyed so that I felt connected to your message. Thank you very much, I am grateful to you.

  • @jimmykoh2602
    @jimmykoh2602 4 роки тому +46

    The caligraphy behind by Go Seigen really caught my attention.
    "克己复礼为仁”, this is Confucius's wisdom, loosely translated to restraining oneself to be civilized is humanity.

  • @AncalagonGo
    @AncalagonGo 4 роки тому +6

    Very nice lecture, especially seeing examples of real games demonstrating the theory.

  • @justin9202
    @justin9202 4 роки тому +3

    Glad to see your video can't wait for the interview. Please continue your efforts for the go community

  • @bradrose2747
    @bradrose2747 4 роки тому +4

    Thank you for this elegant video. I appreciate that it is shorter and covers a few variations while explaining the reasoning for choosing one variation over another. This seems more useful that being overloaded with many variations at once and yet you can create other videos that do cover more involved variations and reasoning, if you choose to.

  • @lucasb3895
    @lucasb3895 4 роки тому +5

    So excited for this channel!

  • @c0dexus
    @c0dexus 4 роки тому +4

    Thank you for the video! I think I finally understand the logic behind AlphaGo's early 3-3

  • @Mr-R.R.
    @Mr-R.R. 4 роки тому +68

    In the year 1917 ? Am i hearing this right?

    • @LapahnYT
      @LapahnYT 4 роки тому +5

      AlphaGo in the year 1917 OMEGALUL

    • @Mr-R.R.
      @Mr-R.R. 4 роки тому +4

      @@LapahnYT i know right?!

    • @TEKRific
      @TEKRific 4 роки тому +4

      The universe is broken lol.

    • @MichaelRedmondsGoTV
      @MichaelRedmondsGoTV  4 роки тому +86

      Did I really say that? 2017 of course! :)

    • @Mr-R.R.
      @Mr-R.R. 4 роки тому +5

      @@MichaelRedmondsGoTV figured ;)

  • @markmcconkie9957
    @markmcconkie9957 4 роки тому +2

    Great video! Thank you for making it. I plan to watch your videos each and every week!

  • @taxicabnumber1729
    @taxicabnumber1729 3 роки тому +5

    As a player who likes to attack, I am overjoyed that direct 3-3 invasions became the hype. Especially when people without superhuman invasion and reduction skills play it against me, please keep doing this everyone. ;-)

  • @seapanda-117
    @seapanda-117 4 роки тому +2

    So excited to see this! I know I'm a little late to the party, but we all appreciate your ability to take this quarantine and turn it into and opportunity to create this content. Thank you.
    :)

  • @luisbanegassaybe6685
    @luisbanegassaybe6685 4 роки тому +1

    this is the best 3 x 3 video I've seen on youtube so far. I also watch gopro yeonwoo channel's who talk about post alphago 3 x 3 invasions

  • @kentolsen6387
    @kentolsen6387 4 роки тому +1

    Thanks Mr. Redmond ! I like your video. Easy to follow. Please keep them coming for beginners.

  • @dogsnout
    @dogsnout 4 роки тому +1

    Perfect commentary! Great and understandable explanations that all levels can understand. Great video!

  • @johannystrom-persson2966
    @johannystrom-persson2966 2 роки тому

    This style of teaching is very helpful for a beginner like me. Thanks for your work.

  • @akajiblubb2401
    @akajiblubb2401 4 роки тому +1

    joseki videos are always appreciated. thanks.

  • @titusgray4598
    @titusgray4598 4 роки тому +5

    Thank you as always, Michael, for being such a great ambassador for the game to the West. This was a great video, I look forward to seeing even more!

  • @claudiogonzalez9926
    @claudiogonzalez9926 4 роки тому +3

    Subscribing to this channel and liking the video is the best Tesuji. (So far 3 people tenuki'd, that's slack). Welcome to youtube Michael!

  • @LexiconLeidun
    @LexiconLeidun 4 роки тому +1

    Great video, I love your sharp analysis and breakdown of board positions! I've enjoyed all your videos that I've watched (which is quite a few) on the AGA youtube, and am looking forward to getting to learn more from your content here!

  • @Mrdudeguy
    @Mrdudeguy 4 роки тому +3

    Welcome to UA-cam
    Keep it coming!

  • @TommentSection
    @TommentSection 4 роки тому +2

    Hey Michael Redmond! Great to see you on your own channel. I always enjoy your explanations.

  • @seventus
    @seventus 4 роки тому +17

    I'm really stoked for this channel! Can't wait to see what sort of content you're gonna upload in the future! Always thought you were a great commentator both in English and Japanese.

  • @nadavschweiger4001
    @nadavschweiger4001 4 роки тому +2

    this is a fantastic video!
    thanks a lot, Michael!

  • @neilmoffatt8592
    @neilmoffatt8592 5 місяців тому

    Very clear and effective teaching. Thanks.

  • @reflechant
    @reflechant 4 роки тому +2

    You're a really good teacher. Thanks.

  • @michaelmair8153
    @michaelmair8153 Місяць тому

    Very helpful video for me as a beginner. Thank you so much!

  • @pierrelion5226
    @pierrelion5226 3 роки тому +1

    Great! As a beginner I felt like I understood everything (pbb not in-depth but you can't have it all!) and that makes me feel great about learning. Let's go and test it on OGS now ;)

  • @enthusi
    @enthusi 4 роки тому +2

    Thank you very much for these. Highly appreciated. I am following it right now in the kitchen :) Best wishes and health to you

  • @spunkuro-wee1478
    @spunkuro-wee1478 2 роки тому

    Hello, thank you very much Mr.Redmond, it's a great video, you have good summarizing skills, this was actually quite beginner friendly :)).

  • @tuananh284220
    @tuananh284220 4 роки тому +4

    Finally! The boss has moved!!!

  • @thecresp
    @thecresp 4 роки тому +1

    Thanks for the video, I really enjoyed it

  • @Rubrickety
    @Rubrickety 4 роки тому +4

    In older books (1970s/80s), the player with the outside position (say black) in the double-hane variation is often shown playing an atari from the outside, then atari again against the ponuki after white captures, rather than taking the corner. The idea seems to be to build an outside wall in sente, rather than in gote as with the simple extension. I haven't seen this variation mentioned in any of the post-AlphaGo 3-3 discussions. Was it already considered obsolete before that? I'm curious why professionals decided it was inferior.

    • @MichaelRedmondsGoTV
      @MichaelRedmondsGoTV  4 роки тому +5

      we had already decided that the final atari was not sente, and the loss in territory was too big

    • @Rubrickety
      @Rubrickety 4 роки тому +4

      @@MichaelRedmondsGoTV Thanks for the reply! That's about what I figured. I've enjoyed your AGA videos immensely, by the way. Your commentary is clear and insightful, and you provide nice insight into the human side of professional-level play.

  • @nahuelcesattilaluce1257
    @nahuelcesattilaluce1257 4 роки тому +1

    Great material ! for more videos of this kind !

  • @Chitatapu
    @Chitatapu 3 роки тому +2

    Great video. I would have liked more details on why the direct invasion is actually a good move. It seems to give black the complete choice of direction.

    • @MichaelRedmondsGoTV
      @MichaelRedmondsGoTV  3 роки тому +5

      The direct 3-3 was not considered a good move until the AIs demonstrated that it works. When the greatest players in history didn't get it, it is still difficult to spell out why it is good.

    • @Chitatapu
      @Chitatapu 3 роки тому

      @@MichaelRedmondsGoTV that makes sense. Thanks for replying!

  • @cptazstudios7952
    @cptazstudios7952 4 роки тому +1

    How did I only find out about this channel a month late!!!!

  • @eloy.martin
    @eloy.martin 4 роки тому +1

    Thanks about videos, I learn a lot with them.

  • @w4ld0emers0n
    @w4ld0emers0n 3 роки тому +1

    I would suggest going more in depth into the variations, for example how to counter early pincers to the Simple Extension, and importantly, the tsuke response to the knight.... That one is extremely common in SDK + range and should have been mentioned!

  • @markuslautkoski3464
    @markuslautkoski3464 4 роки тому +1

    I would really like to see some variations, and what happened in the game, if white plays D14 @ 11:23 !

  • @ellehooq
    @ellehooq 2 роки тому +1

    AlphaGo in 1917 hey? Wow computers have been advanced for a long time!

  • @hannobeck589
    @hannobeck589 4 роки тому +1

    Very helpful, thank you!

  • @HrishikeshMuruk
    @HrishikeshMuruk 3 роки тому +1

    Hi Michael When are you putting up the video on the Knights move variations. Thanks

  • @Booksandchess
    @Booksandchess 4 роки тому +1

    This is excellent

  • @marcoponts8942
    @marcoponts8942 3 роки тому +1

    At 4:53, why don't you mark the point right above 1 as an option? And then you can try to disconnect the white stones and reduce the territory in the corner? And you always say things like "this is okay" or "this is good" but you never explain WHY this is. Makes it very hard to learn and understand.

  • @Herv3
    @Herv3 4 роки тому +1

    At 5:36, why can't W play a move like O16?

    • @MichaelRedmondsGoTV
      @MichaelRedmondsGoTV  4 роки тому +1

      That was an option, but Black's right side area had a lot of space, making it difficult for White to win when comparing size.

  • @lagazettedesfrancais8155
    @lagazettedesfrancais8155 3 роки тому

    Most useful, thank you.

  • @sinfinite7516
    @sinfinite7516 4 роки тому +1

    What does he mean by the year 1917?

  • @sandybarnes887
    @sandybarnes887 4 роки тому +1

    Have u considered reviewing some of the 60 AG Master vs Pro games? I'm really enjoying the AG vs AG series with Chris Garlack.

    • @MichaelRedmondsGoTV
      @MichaelRedmondsGoTV  4 роки тому +1

      Just started that series!
      ua-cam.com/video/gkqrX82LqnU/v-deo.html

    • @sandybarnes887
      @sandybarnes887 4 роки тому

      @@MichaelRedmondsGoTV saw it hours ago when it was posted. Loved it. Thank you very much.

  • @omfgacceptmyname
    @omfgacceptmyname 4 роки тому +1

    thank you!!

  • @AntheInEcht
    @AntheInEcht 4 роки тому +1

    *Thank you*

  • @Turtle1631991
    @Turtle1631991 4 роки тому +1

    There is also murder move at P18 - downfall of many a kyu player who try to invade 3-3 in yose. :-D

  • @enthusi
    @enthusi 4 роки тому +1

    Today's game in Europe already was a prime example of 33:
    m.twitch.tv/europeangofederation

  • @Setsumaable
    @Setsumaable 4 роки тому +1

    I've been studying a lot of the master variations including this one. Most modern players will use dual 4.4 points which In my opinion makes the direct 3.3 invasion very strong. My question though is can you.still create an invasion with with context of more stones such to jump into the 3.3 as black into whites bottom left corner (referring to the 4.4 of white in conjunction with whites shimari) thanks as always.

    • @MichaelRedmondsGoTV
      @MichaelRedmondsGoTV  4 роки тому +1

      I think you mean the LL corner in the example game for the simple extension variation. Invadind at the 3-3 after playing the approach move is also a valid joseki, you have to remember and understand a different sequence of moves. Maybe I should cover that in a video sometime.

  • @87rtlandry
    @87rtlandry 2 роки тому

    What if black tenukis after 3-3? Does white continue to build in the corner or do they tenuki as well and wait for black to come back to defend?

  • @rendywillyanto6597
    @rendywillyanto6597 4 роки тому +1

    Thanks Michael. What an inspiring video!! I'm double digit Kyu Player. After i watch this video. I have Questions :
    1. Is it fair to say that start the opening with 4-4 is not really good? because the 3-3 invasion will coming after. And if i'm not mistaken, the 3-3 invasion mostly bad for the player who begin with 4-4 point.
    2. For a Beginner like me, is it wise enough for not playing the 3-3 invasion early? Because i think it's hard to handle the thickness of the opponent's wall
    :D

    • @MichaelRedmondsGoTV
      @MichaelRedmondsGoTV  4 роки тому

      Pros still like to play the star point and with computer programs the score tends to stay stable with the 3-3 point invasion so I would say go ahead and play the star point.

    • @MichaelRedmondsGoTV
      @MichaelRedmondsGoTV  4 роки тому +2

      To play or not to play the 3-3 is something that is not easy to say and depends on your style and the board position

    • @rendywillyanto6597
      @rendywillyanto6597 4 роки тому

      Really appreciate your answer. Thanks Michael 🙏🏻😄

  • @ke-hwankim73
    @ke-hwankim73 2 роки тому

    Well, that's an introduction I will never be able to say even if I lived to be a million years old: Hello, I'm professional 9-dan go player! =))

  • @allsortsoffurs
    @allsortsoffurs 4 роки тому +2

    Yay!

  • @chuckbell3780
    @chuckbell3780 4 роки тому +3

    "the year 1917?... in May 1917" ? oops

    • @sinfinite7516
      @sinfinite7516 4 роки тому +1

      Yeah I was confused to, what did he mean by the year 1917?

    • @kilianbauer9408
      @kilianbauer9408 3 роки тому +1

      @@sinfinite7516 2017

  • @KoichiroHabu
    @KoichiroHabu 4 роки тому +1

    レドモンド先生、最高です!
    こちらの動画のタイトルは英語に変更してはいかがでしょうか?
    これからも楽しみにしております。

    • @MichaelRedmondsGoTV
      @MichaelRedmondsGoTV  4 роки тому +2

      ありがとうございます。英語の動画に関しても、日本語設定の端末で見た場合は日本語のタイトルと説明文がでます。日本語の訳文を削除すれば英文のみになりますが・・・

    • @KoichiroHabu
      @KoichiroHabu 4 роки тому

      なんと、UA-camにはそんな便利な機能があるのですね。いろいろと勉強になります、ありがとうございます!

  • @Fine_Mouche
    @Fine_Mouche 4 роки тому +1

    alphago still better than Katago ? (in my belive alphogo Stop to be uptade and katago is uptaded sometime) (sry bad english)

    • @MichaelRedmondsGoTV
      @MichaelRedmondsGoTV  4 роки тому +2

      Google had a super computer and Deepmind had a highly gifted team working on AlphaGo, and I think we don't know everything about it. Katago, Leela and the others are being updated and getting better all the time, so lets be honest and say I don't know

  • @TheDavidlloydjones
    @TheDavidlloydjones 2 роки тому

    AlphaGo 1917?

  • @tabularasa9576
    @tabularasa9576 3 роки тому

    When i watched alphaGO challenge and your commentary i only say your face sideways now seeing your fron face is kind of weird..lol

  • @olivierherlin6373
    @olivierherlin6373 Рік тому

    your videos are so quiet. Hard to hear

  • @peterschmidt1900
    @peterschmidt1900 6 місяців тому

    Very helpful! Thank you!