Kawasaki Versys 650 Vs Suzuki V-Strom 650XT | 650CC Adventure Bike Shootout

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  • @heltonvampo6959
    @heltonvampo6959 3 роки тому +37

    I bought v-strom 650xt 2019 and it fits all my needs.A strong reason (beside cheap,reliable,good allround bike) is that it is the biggest bike of its category (adv touring 650-900cc) and i do lot of tours with my wife and it has a lot of space...maybe i need to go for a better saddle in the future.Highly recommend this bike!

  • @jhooton75
    @jhooton75 3 роки тому +42

    Great comparison. I have 20,000 miles on my Versys 650, and agree with everything you're saying. About 75% of my riding is a 25 mile commute to work via combination of highway and country roads. The other 25% is a mix of interstate, 2 lane, and dirt and gravel roads. It's done everything I've asked it to do. I don't regret my purchase at all. But I think if I was doing any more off road than what I do, I'd go with something more adventure oriented.

    • @dragoclarke9497
      @dragoclarke9497 2 роки тому +2

      Agree, 30000 trouble free miles on mine, touring all over Europe.

    • @HazardSports
      @HazardSports 11 місяців тому +1

      What did you end up doing? I did 30,000mi on a Versys 650. Sold it for a new Africa Twin and did abut 13,000mi on it. Then sold that and back on a new Versys 650. I will explain it all in a few videos I am uploading soon - but clearly you see where I went in that search for the best bike for me. I am curious if you bought an ADV or if you’re still in the Versys.

  • @SandroGrow
    @SandroGrow 3 роки тому +33

    I like both and have to confess that the V-Strom is more confortable for both the rider and the passenger considering the original seat, but a custom seat will solve that. The V-Strom is kinda boring on the road, imo... The suspension is amazingly confortable, but the wheel distance and the larger front wheel makes it a heavier bike in the turns, whyle the Versys is very agile and capable of turning almost as a sport bike, which is one of the major reasons I went with it instead of the V-Strom. The wheel distance also affects maneuvers in city traffic, being the versys much easier to ride in traffic. The other major reason I went with the Versys is the price. The Tourer (full) version is cheaper than the stock V-strom.
    I'm with my second Versys 650 Tourer.

    • @9gagerofl
      @9gagerofl 2 роки тому +2

      Dont forget you can completely tune the versys suspension to your ride style. V-strom has a fixed suspension 🥴

    • @Krydolph
      @Krydolph 2 роки тому +1

      Dunno if it changed a lot recently, or its just the market I am in. But I can get the V-strom with the big pacage with all the extras and luggage, for less than the base versys, or the same if I chose the vstrom XT. But price is the main reason I lean more towards V-strom right now. I think they both would be great, but if price was of no concern to me, I would probably chose versys

    • @TrustyZ900
      @TrustyZ900 5 місяців тому

      I can truthfully say, my '22 XT Adventure is one of the most agile bikes in the twisties I've ever ridden.I also have a Z900, Z900RS, SV 650 and HD Low Rider S. I'd like to see a duel up in the mountains between both. The handling of the DL is impeccable. Would put it up against any bike including a versys.

  • @UncleWally3
    @UncleWally3 3 роки тому +53

    Both good motorcycles, but a 90° v-twin 650 inherently provides primary balance and, by default, a character that differentiates it from a parallel twin. For me, that character is priceless.

    • @actstuntcam
      @actstuntcam 3 роки тому +7

      I did think the DL sounded better than the Versys. However, I love the sound of my Africa Twin and that is a parallel twin, so I think it depends on the bike. A DL1000 with aftermarket pipes is a thing of beauty - music to the ears :)

    • @ewganhoff
      @ewganhoff 3 роки тому +6

      @@actstuntcam AT has 270 crank which gives the power strokes the same spacing as 90 v twin. So it sounds like (and practically is) a v twin.

  • @Effenent
    @Effenent 3 роки тому +29

    I'll have my 2015 V-Strom 650 XT paid off in a couple months. Hit 69k miles last week. Love it. Can't wait to hit 100k. :D

    • @tonycj7860
      @tonycj7860 3 роки тому +3

      100k? Push those numbers to 200K!!

  • @dan27052
    @dan27052 Рік тому +6

    I have a 08 Suzuki v-strom 650, and a 16 Kawasaki versys 650. I know they are different generations, but I’ll give my take. I think that the V-strom is better for long rides. It’s smother, less vibrations and the larger wheels make it seem like a better ride. The Kawasaki is great for quick runs around town. I put a 14 tooth front sprocket on the Suzuki (down for the 15 tooth stock), and the Kawasaki stock gearing is still quicker. Overall I think they both are good at different things. The suzuki I like because it’s smooth, and a very good leaner. I’ve actually drug the foot pegs more than once on it. The Kawasaki is quick and great to jump train tracks and speed bumps, but can’t lean turns as well. Hope this helps for anyone who cares… lol

  • @mishimposble
    @mishimposble 3 роки тому +23

    I love my Versys. Over 42,000 miles already

  • @johnyoung3511
    @johnyoung3511 3 роки тому +11

    I had a 2009 VStrom 650 and put 45,000 miles on it. Never let me down. Now I have a 2021 model. Can't say fairer than that :-)

  • @robertedge4213
    @robertedge4213 3 роки тому +28

    Just bought a 2021 V-strom 650xt after saving up and watching heaps of reviews and also know a few guys that have either have had or still own V-stroms. Am hooked and love it!

    • @depe8658
      @depe8658 3 роки тому +1

      Very good choice, it might not be the prettiest or fastest or the best at actually anything, but there is a reason the vstrom has such a big following. Love my 2015 Vstrom 650

  • @falchiherve2024
    @falchiherve2024 3 роки тому +39

    V Strom has been my choice......l m so happy with it!

    • @Kwackajack
      @Kwackajack  3 роки тому

      Love to hear it! What's your favourite thing about the bike?

    • @falchiherve2024
      @falchiherve2024 3 роки тому +5

      @@Kwackajack e everything......bought it brand new mars 2018 and made 53 000 km till now.........ne this is just the begining....a fantastix bike.....smooth....conmfortable....cheap......reliable.........and very fun too for those who know how to ride it.........

    • @riaanvanwyk5374
      @riaanvanwyk5374 3 роки тому

      @@falchiherve2024 have you taken it off-road? If so how did it perform?

    • @falchiherve2024
      @falchiherve2024 3 роки тому +3

      @@riaanvanwyk5374 i dont wanna go offroad.......for this i take my allterrain bycicle my VTT....To me this v strom is for the roads only......a fantastic bike

    • @coconuciferanuts339
      @coconuciferanuts339 3 роки тому

      Me too.Luv me Suzee.

  • @carlossrcadventure9484
    @carlossrcadventure9484 3 роки тому +15

    Last month i was in the cross road between the two bikes.. but decided on the vstrom650 and i am happy with it.

  • @peterbuxey4355
    @peterbuxey4355 2 роки тому +3

    Just ordered my second 650 xt had 2017 great bike brought new 2022 pick it up in couple of weeks happy days

  • @oceantri
    @oceantri 3 роки тому +12

    I went with the 2020 Vstrom 650xt adventure. Very, very happy with it.

  • @actstuntcam
    @actstuntcam 3 роки тому +64

    I'd go Vstrom - I had the big brother and it was awesome. However, the 650 Wee-strom, sells 4-1 against the big brother. It is value for money, with a bullet-proof engine and handles better than the 1000 everywhere. Great review.

    • @Kwackajack
      @Kwackajack  3 роки тому +8

      True! I think they are a good size for these kinds of bikes

    • @actstuntcam
      @actstuntcam 3 роки тому +6

      @@Kwackajack I haven't ridden the Versys. However, the Ninja 650 I rode (I think the second shape/version) was one of the best all-round sports/tourer/commuter bikes I've ever ridden. If the Versys is as good - it will also be excellent.

    • @campbellrousselle9752
      @campbellrousselle9752 2 роки тому +3

      @No_Name It depends on what you are doing with them. I wouldn't take the 650 WeeStrom for two-up touring. However, riding one-up with limited luggage and doing more-serious off-road I'd definitely prefer the 650 over the 1000. If I was only doing the odd gravel road, I'd still take the 1000.

    • @actstuntcam
      @actstuntcam 2 роки тому +2

      @No_Name I liked my 1000 - It was adequate 2-up. I can't imagine the 650 would be that good 2-up with 64hp. Plus the 1000 was wayyyy more exciting to ride and I enjoyed harassing sportbikes. Don't get me wrong, I love the 650. I think it is probably one of the most underrated bikes on the market. That is why they are cheap new and expensive second hand. If you think it is enough for 2, then it is enough for 2, for you. I just wouldn't get one for touring - it has no advantages. As a more serious off-roader the 650 makes sense, especially if you are small, weak, and or old (I considered one for that reason, but bought an Africa Twin instead). If I was only doing road and gravel I'd buy the 1000 (as previously stated). It is faster, pulls harder, it is better at track days and they are cheaper. In reference to your statement "...it has the guts to pull and be comfy..." The same is equally true of the 1000 except with more pull and the same comfort.

    • @actstuntcam
      @actstuntcam 2 роки тому +3

      @No_Name 'Low Ball'? What planet are you living on? I've owned a DL1000 and ridden the DL650 back-to-back with it, so I know EXACTLY what they feel like in comparison to each other. I loved the 650. I've already said as much. How is that 'Low Balling' it?
      I've also toured on a couple of 250s, owned two DR650s, which I rode a lot in all kinds of conditions (I sold my last DR650 to buy my Africa Twin). I raced a WR426 around a long circuit. Having said that all of those bikes were pretty shit when riding fast and riding long distances!
      As far as 650 twins go, I wrote an article on both the DL650 AND the Ninja 650 when I worked at Kiwi Rider (I said the Ninja was one of the best bikes I'd ever ridden), so I'm familiar with both of those. I also owned and raced a Hyosung GT650. I like 650s. They are great! IS THAT LOWBALLING THOSE BIKES?
      If you think small-capacity bikes are the best thing for touring 2-up, fill your boots.

  • @MatheusXJapan
    @MatheusXJapan 3 роки тому +15

    People... lovers of motorcycles, no doubt both bikes are very good and they face any road! Important thing is not about brand, but the friends you have to ride bike together.

  • @dianahardy7916
    @dianahardy7916 3 роки тому +27

    I have owned both and used them for gravel roads and two up road touring. Kawa was the full power version.I would happily own either one again. If you are considering either, I suggest test ride both and decide which one suits you. The Vstrom is a bit more spacious for two people.

    • @skylinesquid
      @skylinesquid 9 місяців тому +1

      which is more fun to ride?

  • @R3CO249
    @R3CO249 2 роки тому +2

    I've owned a 650 for nearly 4 years. Little off road. Mainly roads and occasionally long distance highway. It's a fantastic bike! Going to keep it as long as I can.

  • @travelinben1966
    @travelinben1966 3 роки тому +10

    I opt for the Kawasaki for the rubber mounted frame.That does mitigate vibration alot.I think the Kawasaki is also more aesthetically appealing with only a hint of a beak.You really can't go wrong with either one which is a great thing.Excellent job comparing and contrasting these two bikes.Thank you.👍👍

  • @davidmorphett8997
    @davidmorphett8997 3 роки тому +4

    I own a 2013 Vstrom 650 . 47000 kms and building . 2 Recalls with no problems and just a joy to own ....It does everything easily with no specialties to name . A great allrounder and I have grown to love it . 500kms from a tank is not unusual and face it most riding we do is at 80 - 100 kms an hour ....why be uncomfortable on a Sport bike ? Ride a Vstrom 650 and see how big they actually are . I would definitely buy another one

  • @CR-in5vc
    @CR-in5vc 3 роки тому +1

    Out of about all the bikes I owned; Moto Guzzi v7 special, Honda ctx1300, Yamaha Roadliner, Kawasaki z900rs, Honda vtx1300, Honda monkey, Indian Springfield dark horse, and now the v storm 650 (2017) my favorite by far; enough power for 2 up, light, maneuvers, taller seating, the feel of the engine, just offroad possibilities, wired wheels and tubeless tires. About to pull a deal on a Triumph 800 xta but top heavy feel. You won't be disappointed with the 650: I think that's my favorite platform; the 650's engine, you can drive them hard yet you won't be going extremely fast

  • @jeppo1185
    @jeppo1185 3 роки тому +12

    Great Review Kwakajack:)
    After test riding both bikes, I went with the Versys 650. It just fitted me better and was more comfortable for me.
    Rode from Adelaide to Coffs Harbour over xmas and it performed very well. I dropped 3 teeth on the rear, which helped on the highway and I averaged 22.5 km per ltr.
    Just an easy bike to live with every day.

    • @jaywhoisit4863
      @jaywhoisit4863 3 роки тому

      That’s not very good highway mileage for a 650. Especially with the longer gearing in the rear. I have a 1000 Vstrom with short gearing (one down in the front) and I get 21 km/l on the highway.

    • @ElLuigyboy
      @ElLuigyboy 2 роки тому

      Jay is right, I have a 2nd Gen 2012 Strom 650, it gives me 25-27 km average per lt with stock gearing at 110-120 kph

    • @rutwickgangurde3247
      @rutwickgangurde3247 2 роки тому +1

      How is it in city traffic? Daily commute to work maybe, handling around corners and in traffic, low speed torque, weight handling etc.?

  • @jokermtb
    @jokermtb 3 роки тому +9

    I like the vstrom better - it's much longer than the versys, and that ability to stretch out on a long ride is wonderful.

  • @TrustyZ900
    @TrustyZ900 3 роки тому +4

    In 2017, I seen both the Versys and the Vstrom side by side in the local showroom. I preferred the look of the V strom to the Versys. I then spoke to the lead mechanic and warranty manager and both said if they had to chose, they'd go Vstrom. I've had the DL for four glorious years and have no complaints, except for a funky seat cover, which I replaced. This bike is superb. I've had bigger and faster, yet this bike always puts a smile on my face. Try one , you'll love it.

  • @yourmatejay
    @yourmatejay 3 роки тому +6

    Great review. I had a first gen vstrom 650. It was a bit top heavy and I didn’t enjoy riding two up so I sold it and bought my gsxr. I actually really miss it riding on longer trips - I’d happily have another one as a second bike to go off-road and on camping trips with the boys 👍

  • @sebbwebbo7557
    @sebbwebbo7557 Рік тому +1

    I own a Versys650 (non restricted here in Europe). After 2 seasons (can't ride for a few months in the winter because of snow/ice/salt on the streets) the trip counter is at 35.000km.
    The only thing that broke twice is the bulp of the headlight - not a real issue as it is replaced in 10 minutes.
    Beside that, I haven't had issues at all. And it's a hell of a fun in the twisties - bad for the bank account, as you need new tires permanently :D
    I also take her on gravel roads or forestry roads from time to time - works fine if it's not too rough and you don't think you're a dakar racer.
    But my little Versys has seen more "offroad" than most BMW GS' or Africa Twins here.
    All in all I can't complain and don't regret buying her.
    Sure, there are more capable, stronger, prettier or faster bikes out there, but everytime when I'm back in the saddle, I'm just happy with her and don't really need something else :)
    I'm sure you can take both mentioned Bikes - the VStrom and the Versys - for an around the world trip. Both would do great!

  • @timothyangus954
    @timothyangus954 10 місяців тому

    I have had a Gen2 650 for 9 years now. In 2018 I rode it 2 up around the world including going all around Australia. 260 mile range, good economy and comfy all day.

  • @awhoot1
    @awhoot1 2 роки тому +4

    I’m a fan of the Suzuki, I’m a fan of both manufacturers though!! Two big reasons for me is the 90° V twin on the Suzuki just sounds amazing, and it does appear to be a little more off-road capable!👍🏻

  • @jeffjones4071
    @jeffjones4071 3 роки тому +3

    I tested both 2021s I went with the Vstrom 650xt ….. I love my Strom Purchased May 4 2021

  • @sa4555
    @sa4555 4 місяці тому +1

    One can not go wrong with any of these two. Kawasaki really upped its game for Versys for 2024 model, and overall if youre going for highway trips Versys is the machine to get. Not to mention the price difference makes Versys 650 a no brainer.

  • @bobbyjoesugar
    @bobbyjoesugar 3 роки тому

    Just got my 2020 Versys- very pleased with my purchase

  • @palantir135
    @palantir135 3 роки тому +3

    I had the v-strom. A great do it all bike. The versys is probably great too.

  • @jagadeeshbabuk7914
    @jagadeeshbabuk7914 3 роки тому +18

    Love the storm❤️😎 it looks like a big horse 🐎🐎

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      @arlodesmond4296 3 роки тому +1

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    • @aresmicah3129
      @aresmicah3129 3 роки тому

      @Arlo Desmond flixportal :D

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      @arlodesmond4296 3 роки тому +1

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      @aresmicah3129 3 роки тому

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  • @danh.3675
    @danh.3675 3 роки тому +6

    Having owned a 2014 Vstrom 1000, and currently owning a 2017 versys 650, I would say that the versys with the 17 front wheel has more sporty turning on pavement. Also lots of power for a 650. It has no off-road pretensions, and I don’t either. Strom was very stable, it wanted to go straight down the road, also good for some dirt.

  • @souhailshamaissem7564
    @souhailshamaissem7564 2 роки тому

    Another top video mate.
    And as always it's nice to see Australian contents on you tube.

  • @Cheezmonka
    @Cheezmonka 2 роки тому +3

    Those 0-100 km/h times seem pretty high for both bikes in the unrestricted models. Were those times perhaps meant for the restricted versions?

  • @patricksandeberg8184
    @patricksandeberg8184 3 роки тому +7

    Of these two it's the V-strom for me. But in the class. I'd grab a T700

    • @JJamJ
      @JJamJ 2 роки тому +1

      Completely different beasts. I had the T7 now own xt65 v strom. Xt much more rd biased which is now where most of my miles are. The T7 is a handful off road as it is too heavy.

  • @daveunderhill9636
    @daveunderhill9636 3 роки тому +5

    Im on my second Vstrom. Had an 04 650 for a few years and really enjoyed it. Rode a Triumph 900 Scrambler for a couple years then recently picked up a 19 Vstrom 650.

    • @Kwackajack
      @Kwackajack  3 роки тому

      How do you find the Strom?

    • @daveunderhill9636
      @daveunderhill9636 3 роки тому

      @@Kwackajack I really like it. Good on fuel and has a nice range. The main reason for selling the Triumph and goig back to the V Strom was for the ride quality. The Triumph was really stiff in the back. I have back problems and some of the roads around here are pretty rough. The V Strom rides much better. I have never rode the Versys so I can't compare the two.

  • @Pebbzor
    @Pebbzor 3 роки тому +2

    I’ve got a Versys 650. Only real complaint so far is wind noise or wind protection. But I’m a tall guy and have found some better fairing. A digital modern display would be nice but it’s not necessary. Haven’t tried the V-Strom.

  • @dindoducay08
    @dindoducay08 3 роки тому +5

    New subs here from Phillipines. I'll go for v Strom. Thank you for including ph conversion for the price.. More reviews sir Jack.. Godbless.. Ridesafe..

    • @vonoli2662
      @vonoli2662 3 роки тому

      sir bakit parang walang gumagamit ng V strom dito sa PH? halos Versys lahat ng mga binibili. ano kaya ang edge ng V strom vs Versys?

    • @alucardlord9032
      @alucardlord9032 3 роки тому

      @@vonoli2662 kasi, tayong mga riders napapalingon sa mga patrollers na nakakasalubong natin , tapos namamangha tayo sa bike nila, kaya ayun versys nagugustuhan natin haha

  • @Jer0867
    @Jer0867 9 місяців тому

    3:47 That's Llanelli beach, about 3 miles from where I live!

  • @sathishrao7926
    @sathishrao7926 3 роки тому +6

    They priced VStrom ridiculously higher than the more popular Versys in India..
    Honda priced their CB500X almost equal to that of Versys in India..
    So, Versys is all set to continue its dominance in this middleweight “Pseudo Off-road capable” tourer segment in India !

    • @metalsadman
      @metalsadman 3 роки тому

      Same here in Philippines, vstrom is expensive,the 500x tho is quite affordable.

  • @ler3968
    @ler3968 3 роки тому +3

    I have been looking at both of these models for two years. You have confirmed my 1st choice, the Kawa 650 for its features & history as a solid bike at a great price. I just wish it was about 50mm lower as my legs are growing shorter I think. 😉

    • @basaenala1173
      @basaenala1173 3 роки тому

      ... growing shorter...😁😁

    • @chadkline4268
      @chadkline4268 2 роки тому +1

      G-dammit, tall people need bikes too, and there really aren't many available! Stop demanding every bike be made for men under 6ft 🥴

    • @ler3968
      @ler3968 2 роки тому

      @@chadkline4268sooo sorry dude, approx 12% of the general population (US-UK-EU) is over 6ft tall. So there is a bigger mkt for us wee shorties--and women too..Cheers

    • @chadkline4268
      @chadkline4268 2 роки тому +1

      @@ler3968 thanks for the statistics. But 90-95% of motorcycles are made for men under 6ft. Only about 5% will fit a man over 6ft 2in. It's very difficult to buy a motorcycle if you are 6ft 3in or more, so if a few are tall, please don't take them away from us 👍

    • @JoseAlvarez-dl3hm
      @JoseAlvarez-dl3hm 4 місяці тому +1

      @@chadkline4268 you could always ask the agency for the biggest seat version available, which most meddium and bigger bikes have, most of the time, if not then you should make sure that there exist a decent aftermarket version for your bike.

  • @JohnDoe-xr5is
    @JohnDoe-xr5is 3 роки тому +6

    I have a 2018 Versys 650. (Never been on the Vstrom) The bike is great for my non-off road riding, but it's biggest obstacle is it's high center of gravity combined with it's high seat height. (then add 40lbs of gas up high) The bike can be difficult to handle at parking lot speeds. It wants to tip..fast. But once you're over about 13mph....it's wonderful. Also, I would NEVER take it off road because of the high center of gravity. And I'll also admit, if I get another bike, I'll downsize to the Honda CB500X.

    • @deea2680
      @deea2680 3 роки тому +2

      You have written this a number of times on youtube, I guess the Versys is too much for you!

    • @rafiqrza28
      @rafiqrza28 Рік тому

      Cb500 x the worst bike i ever had,on highway wobbling like crazy,not enough power like verys

  • @rutwickgangurde3247
    @rutwickgangurde3247 2 роки тому

    Thanks for mentioning the prices in INR, these two are getting very popular here these days.

  • @coreytravisbean
    @coreytravisbean Рік тому

    having owned both, i do want to add that kawasaki's paint finish is more premium. The Vstrom was prone to paint flaking, especially on the beak. I am a bit of a kawasaki simp though, so take my advice with a grain of salt. Both are amazing bikes, I am a motorcycle technician and my boss rides a vstrom 1050 and I've loved it when he lets me take it out. I can't knock either brand, or either model. Can't go wrong with either one.

  • @nwmi493
    @nwmi493 Місяць тому

    i had a new 2015 Versys 1000 and the front end was like the feeling you have when your back from the dentist waiting for the novicane to wear off. Disconnected beyond belief. Couldn't wait to sell it.

  • @paulwhite7475
    @paulwhite7475 11 місяців тому

    I would automatically go Suzuki before any other manufacturer. Nice to know in this market section its the best best too. Thanks for a good video . Please just stop calling it a Kawazaki

  • @paulsmith3487
    @paulsmith3487 Рік тому

    Yep! Can't argue that!

  • @ritabrataroy8523
    @ritabrataroy8523 3 роки тому +2

    Bro please do a comparison between BMW 1250 GS & KTM Super Adventure 1290

  • @Jer0867
    @Jer0867 9 місяців тому

    4:14 What's this "rocking" you keep referring to??

  • @gioredrossi
    @gioredrossi 3 роки тому +4

    Kawasaki is no mystery that it is inferior to Suzuki starting with the poor frame in welded iron tubes while on Suzuki we have a magnificent aluminum frame, and then ... the strong piece, the engine ... but do you want to put a cheap 2-cylinder in line with a V-twin.
    but let's not joke, you shouldn't have any doubts about the purchase.!

  • @CaptainDangeax
    @CaptainDangeax 3 роки тому +2

    I actually owns a Versys 1000 since 2 years after owning a 650 Vstrom (first model) for 11 years. You didn't talk about duo and I think the VStrom is better suited for that than the little Versys. My big one is not in the same league

  • @rrishi997
    @rrishi997 3 роки тому +5

    Most of the clips are taken from Powerdrift indian and zigwheels india. Happy to see indian channels are impressing the global audience

    • @Kwackajack
      @Kwackajack  3 роки тому +3

      Love seeing the passion you guys have for those ADV bikes! They have some of the best videos of the bikes out

  • @kymstock1852
    @kymstock1852 3 роки тому

    I used to own a Vstrom 2013 model. Being from a back ground on dirt bikes I was surprised how poor the suspension was. I upgraded it with stiffer springs and a damper kit. It was better , but one ride on a Tiger XCX and I was sold.

  • @kwakkers68
    @kwakkers68 3 роки тому +2

    I think K missed a trick here .. would have made sense to offer at least the option of a more O/R Versys -
    maybe parallel to the road biased one. I suppose the market-research pointed them to deliver what they've
    come up with .. but options are always appreciated. That said, the re-birth of the KLE will cover this anyway...
    so it's all irrelevant now

  • @ricksilver7398
    @ricksilver7398 Рік тому

    I've been studying a lot of reviews and with a tire size change the Versy can be a formidable off road bike as well. All though both are awesome I would take the Versy

  • @davidc1961utube
    @davidc1961utube 2 роки тому

    Here in Ecuador the typical road conditions, even on "paved" roads, mean a bike must be comfortable navigating bumps, potholes, dirt stretches, bulldozed landslides, etc. The Wee is the only reasonable choice for all-country riding, as well as Peru, Colombia, etc.

  • @lcdubs7847
    @lcdubs7847 3 роки тому +2

    what is this "learner approved" thing? We don't have that in Canada. Is it convertible back to the full powered mode?

    • @Kwackajack
      @Kwackajack  3 роки тому +1

      It's a restricted power model of the bike. Yea it's convertible back to full powered in most cases. Similar to A2 in other parts of the world

    • @lcdubs7847
      @lcdubs7847 3 роки тому +1

      @@Kwackajack Cool. We don't have A2 here either. I assume buying one of these models gives you a break on insurance?
      I kind of envy you Aussies, being about to ride a bike 12 months a year. Here, we need a bike for 4 months, a snowmobile for 5 months, and a 4 wheeler for the spring and fall.

  • @mickleblade
    @mickleblade 3 роки тому +1

    Are you going to compare it the the new tracer 7? Or is that even available where you live.

  • @zeerolives4009
    @zeerolives4009 9 місяців тому

    the V-Strom 650 Adventure definitely seems like the better bike but i just can't get over the beak and the stacked headlights, personally I love the design of the Versys 650LT wayyyy more

  • @jsveiga
    @jsveiga 3 роки тому +3

    When I got my V-Strom 650XT about a year ago it costed about the same as the Versys (Brazil). More recently, Suzuki went nuts and it's quite more expensive (R$52k vs R$41, or R$46 for the Versys Tourer, with every accessory available).
    I get 23-24.5 km/l in my tame commute routine.

    • @Kwackajack
      @Kwackajack  3 роки тому

      Thanks for sharing your experience, had no idea it was so much more expensive over there!

  • @FaxMe2Barbados
    @FaxMe2Barbados 3 роки тому +4

    sold the v-strom to get the versys. so far so good.

    • @actstuntcam
      @actstuntcam 3 роки тому +3

      Interesting, what makes it a better bike for you?

  • @travelinben1966
    @travelinben1966 2 роки тому

    Rubber mounted frame, less expensive,nicer front end, and no “beak.” Kawasaki👍🏻👍🏻

  • @Chelsea-cu1pw
    @Chelsea-cu1pw 3 роки тому +3

    I like both of them

  • @nickstevens3139
    @nickstevens3139 3 роки тому

    What about centrestands? They are essential for this kind of bike.

  • @markusweber7445
    @markusweber7445 5 місяців тому

    I have owned a versys 650 before, and I also tried VStroms on muliple occasions. Now I was looking for a used Versys or VStrom, bought a Versys again just because the Deal was great. They are really similar. The VStrom feels bigger and is a bit better with an Passenger the Versys is a bit better on Twisty Roads but if you like one of the Bikes you will like the other too…

  • @johnrenehan7406
    @johnrenehan7406 Рік тому

    Good straight talking review guys 👌👌👌

  • @bobfallis
    @bobfallis 3 роки тому +5

    Based on sheer looks alone, the Versys wins by a mile in my book. Will be buying one in approximately 6 months, so I am unabashedly biased.

  • @kwakkers68
    @kwakkers68 3 роки тому +1

    The bit people and reviewers tend to miss - the price of parts / the cost of servicing.
    I'm a Kwakkerist - but I do have 1 Suzook ... The Green parts are always cheaper, sometimes
    by quite a margin.

    • @juanfelipearango2029
      @juanfelipearango2029 3 роки тому +2

      Depends on were you live. In latin america, green parts are more expensive

  • @daveh5625
    @daveh5625 3 роки тому +3

    What does that 55 hp lams model mean.

    • @Kwackajack
      @Kwackajack  3 роки тому

      LAMS = learner approved motorcycle. Similar to A2 over in other parts of the world, just restricted power models for beginner riders

  • @leosedf
    @leosedf 3 роки тому +4

    The versys is more Road oriented that's why I chose it. Very good for Europe. Both are very good but the versys is looking better.

  • @floridaboy7787
    @floridaboy7787 3 роки тому +1

    you got purdy good content man .............. subbed !!

    • @Kwackajack
      @Kwackajack  3 роки тому +1

      Appreciate it!

    • @floridaboy7787
      @floridaboy7787 3 роки тому

      @@Kwackajack the cool thing about you is you leave it up to the viewer witch bike they like better ............... unlike others (yammy noob) who are trying to push their views on to people watching .............

  • @fuglbird
    @fuglbird 7 місяців тому

    The size and placement of the exhaust is much better on the Versys. On the V-Strom fixed panniers are mounted on outside of the exhaust and the bike becomes very wide. Except for a topbox I would only use soft luggage on the V-Strom. Fuel consumption and reliability are better for the V-Strom.

  • @mvjoshi
    @mvjoshi 3 роки тому +7

    Two years ago, I was at this crossroads junction. So, I test rode both bikes over a route identical to both. Highway tarmac, town concrete road, broken tarmac, dirt road, mixed gravel and potholed tarmac and then, on my return from work, in reverse order.
    And doing this after seeing the legions of videos here, there and everywhere praising the V Strom, the result was, for me, extremely disappointing. I had expected the V Strom to perform the way the videos had claimed it would. Unfortunately, it did nothing of the sort. So, what happened?
    1. The aerodynamics of the Suzuki windscreen were just terrible, causing a turbulent, buffeting airflow at speeds above 80 kph. Not for the Kawasaki.
    1. The front suspension on the Suzuki seemed non-existent. Zero feedback. And strangely for a bike touted as a soft adv, completely non-adjustable. The Kawasaki was leagues ahead with basic preload and compression adjustment.
    3. The ground clearance of both bikes is said to be identical. It didn't feel that way on the Suzuki which threatened to impact the lips of even slightly deeper ruts and potholes. Not so the Kawasaki, which has no issues whatsoever.
    4. The rear suspension on both bikes is too hard but the placement of the rear strut on the Kawasaki meant that it was easier to replace it with an aftermarket one.
    5. Traction control, for me, is dangerous on an adv bike as it makes the rider depend more on electronics to mitigate his errors rather than motivate him to read the terrain, learn from it and ride safely over it. Thankfully, the Kawasaki doesn't have it, though I would have loved a switchable ABS rather than the airways on one currently doing duty on it.
    6. In India, the Suzuki was priced about AUD 2400 more than the Kawasaki which is ridiculously high a difference.
    In conclusion, the 19 inch front and spoked wheels simply didn't justify the very high price differential nor the other, for me, serious deficiencies, and I bought the Kawasaki.
    Of course, to each his own. Peace 🙏🏼

    • @jjnich4915
      @jjnich4915 3 роки тому +5

      I own a 2018 vstrom 650XT and I had the opposite experience. Tested 3 bikes. Tracer 900GT, Versys 650, V strom 650. Tracer being the most prospective choice and v strom was the least.
      The seat on the tracer was a rock so it was out of the question. The Kawasaki felt really cheap compared to the Suzuki and Yamaha and generally felt more sporty than adv probably because the parallel twin the big brother engine to the ninja 250. I am a Kawasaki guy my first bikes were all Kawi's but I got on the VStrom and it was comfy everywhere I sat and it's fuel economy is much better than the versys. The Vstrom sits a little higher than the versys so it was more comfortable as I am over 6 ft tall. Also at the time racks for cases were more sophisticated for the v strom compared to the versys just felt like the quality was better at the time (2018). The tall windshield was nice for me as I am taller slightly raising the stock height of the windshield gives me optimal protection from wind and I do not experience any head buffeting while I am on the highway. The make windshield extenders for the v strom too so even if it was a problem it's nothing $80 cant fix.
      I have owned the bike almost 3 years and gone on two big trips and honestly the Vstrom is a beast bike if you are going to tour with it or go off road. Still not had any major or minor failure. Have just done the basic service on the bike and it still runs like the day I rolled it out of the dealership and put it's first km on. I have put over 10000 miles on her now and needless to say I am happy with my decision. I think I purchased the best quality adv/sport bike in its class. Looking to buy a V Strom 1050 in a couple years so I can convert my 650 to off-road.
      Glad you like your versys though it really is a nice bike too. Cheers.

    • @thealvaco
      @thealvaco 3 роки тому

      Good points made there.

    • @NunoFotografia
      @NunoFotografia 3 роки тому

      Two years ago I was choosing the substitute for my CB500X. The V-Strom in paper seemed the right bike... I tested the versys and then when to try the V-Strom... When I was heading to th edealer I remember thinking that I was going to buy the Suzuki... 10 minutes in to the test ride of the V-Strom I was only thinking in giving it back and to go back to the Versys dealership to put an order on a Versys. Tech Sheeth are pointless if you don't ride the bikes...

  • @tduggan25
    @tduggan25 3 роки тому

    There's supposed to be about 14cm difference in wheelbase between the two, was this noticeable when riding?

  • @robshef718
    @robshef718 3 роки тому +1

    They are both good looking bikes, though I like the solid rims on the Vstrom. Though both bikes really are nearly ID, in the torque area, I cant believe that the Torque specs for the Kawy (though with a bit more revs) are as high for the In line engine, as they are for the V engine, when the V's are known for their Torque. I think Kawy is fudging a bit. The Suzy has a racier sound, more throaty sound, where the kawy sounds like a two stroke on steroids. Both compete very well, but what kind of price you get, in the long run makes the better deal.

  • @KairyuRider
    @KairyuRider 3 роки тому +1

    Easy answer, Versys 650 and Tracer 7 don’t sell here in Japan, so V Storm 650 is the un-contested king at 2/3 the price of the Tenere 700.
    Sad times...

    • @OperationFoxley19441
      @OperationFoxley19441 3 роки тому +2

      Oh wow!! So the versys and tracer 7 is not sold in Japan?? That sucks, but yeah the v Strom is a great bike.

    • @alucardlord9032
      @alucardlord9032 3 роки тому

      Why versys is not sold in japan? Because of its big size?

    • @KairyuRider
      @KairyuRider 3 роки тому

      @@alucardlord9032 no, I don't know the reason but you can buy a versys 1000 here so size isn't the issue

  • @efremendez
    @efremendez 3 роки тому +1

    Funny didn't mention the vsteom nose dive when braking

  • @alainremi267
    @alainremi267 3 роки тому +3

    Great & thanks but for the same price I would choose the Yamaha MT07 🤩🤩🤩

    • @chrishart8548
      @chrishart8548 3 роки тому

      I imagine the mt-07 would be a fair bit less expensive than these bikes. Think the tracer 700 is a bit more money but it's lighter and more powerful.

    • @StephenJohnson-jb7xe
      @StephenJohnson-jb7xe 3 роки тому +1

      Do you mean the XT700? If so it is about 4k more expensive than the V-Strom. These aren't really the bikes to be comparing to a MT07

    • @chrishart8548
      @chrishart8548 3 роки тому

      @@StephenJohnson-jb7xe all very true

    • @douglasalexander4348
      @douglasalexander4348 3 роки тому

      @@chrishart8548 mt07 TRACER is comparable to these, since very few on these two will actually go off-road.

    • @chrishart8548
      @chrishart8548 3 роки тому

      @@douglasalexander4348 has just as much off road ability as the versey's that's for sure.

  • @natural9743
    @natural9743 3 роки тому +1

    V-strom all day long best handling Bullitt proof engine

  • @vdhazer
    @vdhazer 3 роки тому +1

    I think you are a Kawasaki fan, Jack. I have seen many comparisons between Kawasaki and other brands. I'm also a Kawasaki fan, Ducati comes second on my list.

  • @deepsouthNZ
    @deepsouthNZ 3 роки тому

    I'm planning a lap of Oz and I'm doing it on a strom, great comfort range and value

    • @Somchai007
      @Somchai007 3 роки тому

      Amazing. What an adventure you will have!

  • @akgyadizagaskeun3732
    @akgyadizagaskeun3732 3 роки тому +1

    V strom looking good👍👍

  • @NeonKrossMusic
    @NeonKrossMusic 2 роки тому

    How do they compare to the Honda NC750X ?

  • @chenglongtan6260
    @chenglongtan6260 2 роки тому

    Vstrom 650xt is it recommended for 6ft guys ? Worry will have an awkward leg posture while riding

  • @admiralbeez8143
    @admiralbeez8143 3 роки тому

    We need the Yamaha Tracer 7 here in Canada. That'll eat some share from both the Versys and V-Strom. Coming on Yamaha, the markets is there.

  • @cat_daddy
    @cat_daddy 3 роки тому

    Restricted- unrestricted does this pertain to the riders license or experience ??

  • @chadkline4268
    @chadkline4268 2 роки тому +1

    I dislike V engines because they seem inherently unbalanced, even if they have primary perfect balance. Engine configuration alone does not affect power and torque output; tuning and effective engine management are far more responsible for the result that actually reaches the rear wheel. When the V is front to back, the rear cylinder is under different operating conditions than the front and wear is not symmetrical. And they are often more difficult to work on. V engines allow for a slimmer bike, but parallel allow greater flexibility in frame design. It's a good strategy for Kawi to make a single engine that is used across many models. It helps in parts availability, cost, and refinement.

  • @geekstar2937
    @geekstar2937 3 роки тому +2

    I think the biggest difference between the two is that V-Strom has a traction control. I would prefer the Versys otherwise, but the lack of traction control is a dealbreaker when you can have it on V-Strom.

  • @westleighcrain4613
    @westleighcrain4613 2 роки тому

    I've been around bikes for a long time I've never heard of the power restricted models you described why would that be a thing

    • @lachlancannard
      @lachlancannard 2 роки тому

      Licencing restrictions. Newer riders in Aus/NZ/UK are limited to what bikes they can ride. In Aus, nothing over 660CC or 150kW/t. I bought a V-Strom 650 LAMS model that is restricted to 47HP down from 71HP. When my Provisional period is over I'll decide if I want to unleash the extra horses or not.

  • @repetitivemotion
    @repetitivemotion 2 роки тому

    What’s with the restricted versions ?

  • @braddekker7359
    @braddekker7359 3 роки тому

    V strom is Suzuki strong it's engine has pedagree dating 25years, it's sounds amazing compared to the inline 2, I would pay to see a versys go offroad, my 2015 xt has never failed to get me somewhere I often ride with 650 enduros and other dirt bikes I easily go where they go, I am constantly amazed at how nimble and capable the wee strom is. The comparison was lost the second people realised the kwaka used an inline 2 from the single must hated bike kwaka have ever produced.

  • @johnnyViDeO
    @johnnyViDeO 3 роки тому +1

    Good review. I can't decide, but I do more hwy riding than dirt, so the Kaw gets the edge. I'd like to see an expansion of the V-Strom line, offering 550, 950, and 1250 cc versions. I do like the stubby exhaust under the Kaw better, and the windscreen is easier to adjust. The V has better looks, IMHO. You can't go wrong with either, as they are both great fun and value for the money.

  • @MrDAVIDRACE
    @MrDAVIDRACE 2 роки тому +1

    I have both bikes the Suzuki wins hands down with that great V twin engine and 43 mill forks.

  • @runningman316
    @runningman316 Рік тому

    What does restricted and unrestricted mean?

  • @ChaosAI24
    @ChaosAI24 3 роки тому +1

    You should've compared with normal V-strom not XT, highway oriented, which, at least in europe, is 500 euros cheaper than Versys. In conclusion V-Strom is better than Versys given the fact that for the same price as Versys you have exactly what kawi moto is: versatility but this is V-Strom XT atribute.

  • @ANONYMOUSBIKERUSA
    @ANONYMOUSBIKERUSA 3 роки тому +1

    outstanding review!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • @Kwackajack
      @Kwackajack  3 роки тому +1

      Just a specs comparison! But glad you like it. Would love to get my hands on both bikes to make a proper review

    • @ANONYMOUSBIKERUSA
      @ANONYMOUSBIKERUSA 3 роки тому

      @@Kwackajack love the versys ! But for on and off road the vstrom takes it. Such a cool bike!

  • @oldmanjudo6241
    @oldmanjudo6241 2 роки тому

    I like both, but for 2012 the style and handling of the Versys was my choice. I still ride it, and it still puts a smile on my face every time I do.

  • @motorcyclistfromholland8856
    @motorcyclistfromholland8856 2 роки тому

    We have both and the vstrom is so much nicer. The engine is super smooth.

  • @izradesign
    @izradesign 3 роки тому +3

    I have both 650, Strom and versys, not much different between performance and handling, but more comfortable and confident with Strom.