Fun fact: "Ephemeral" means 'lasting only one day' is the concept of things being transitory, existing only briefly. So does that mean that the villain Ephemeral is going to last one day or what??
Hey guys maybe she finds chat's identity that he is Adrien but she doesn't forget it like in chat blanc she knew what would happen if they start loving each other , and so that umbrella scene maybe in the last when mari and chat are together and she is now seeing her Adrien in chat
I think ephemeral will last a day if it was adrien because he was set to die originally. But i do not hink it could be felix. The supervillan Ephemeral Looked like one of the twins tho . By Samuel
Considering how much official sources have said that this episode is really important and vital to watch, I think that whether or not it’s a “what if” episode is irrelevant. We’re going to get something important, even if it isn’t in a tradition way. It’ll probably be like Chat Blanc 2.0 in the sense that its importance to the story will be a mix of either symbolism or small effects that lead to later developments (and big ones at that).
I'm 99% confident that the one-sided reveal (Ladybug finding out Cat Noir's secret identity) will actually happen in this episode and won't be erased or reverted. It's gonna happen, I can just feel it.
@@luciacamacho444 That's not true at all. They can't keep pushing it forward forever, plus, the original plot of the show ends in season 5 not season 7, which means all the reveals should happen before the end of season 5. That's not counting the fact that the characters also need time to process everything after it happens. Taking all of this into account, *at least* a one-sided reveal should happen before the start of season 5. I personally think that both reveals will happen in season 4 given how much the plot progressed in it.
@Marinette Alright, so... I honestly can't tell if you're trolling or not, cuz some of your replies seem pretty weird. I would usually tell you to leave me alone rn, but I'm too tired to do that, and I'm too tired to argue, and I'm too tired to even be triggered, so...yeah, maybe they can...maybe.
Yea a lot of ppl have been kinda hating on this episode bc it’s a what if episode but what if episodes still have an impact on the story. For example, Chat Blanc. Mari is STILL traumatized from that event. Another example, Oblivio. Even though Ladybug and Chat Noir don’t remember it, it’s still canon to the world of Miraculous since Alya took that photo of them kissing. So I feel like this episode will still be very impactful even though it’s a what if episode. Also I have a theory where Mari’s memories aren’t completely erased which I why during the Ladynoir umbrella scene, she sees Adrien in Chat. Her subconscious is tryna tell her that Chat is Adrien but she’s probably gonna ignore it ;-;
Ur so correct about Cat Blanc and Oblivio. Cat Blanc was the first episode I thought of hearing this what if episode. Ughh they needa get together already or something so that it’s not like in the last episode and we actually get to see them happily together fr fr no games
I wonder which parts are going to affect the overall plot, and which parts will be erased. Love the outro song btw! I keep getting it stuck in my head xD
I personally think that the part which will affect the plot is the one-sided reveal with Ladybug finding out Cat Noir's identity. It makes more sense when you keep in mind the synopsis for the season 4 finale.
I’m also thinking all of the “what if” episodes tie together thematically. Oblivio was “Adrien and Marinette finding out about each other and it working out”. Chat Blanc was “Adrien and Marinette finding out about each other and it not working out”. I think Ephemeral will be “Adrien and Marinette don’t find out about each other and it not working out.”
I’m also thinking if Adrien is Ephemeral, I think he’ll be a child. It would also explain why he only comes up to his Dad’s waist as opposed to his shoulder.
Definitely should be a two parter it will be sped along like dearest family was just not too long ago. Dearest family showed tikkis growth and shadowmoth big charm breaking akumas but flopped in the repeat villains motive and use. Ephemeral is ment to be a sepical episode I can't see why they didn't decide to premiere it as a special (so 1 hour) or make it a two parter.
I don’t know if Adrien giving it to him willingly intrigues me or if it sounds too safe. If written properly, it would be shocking and have an effect on the show because Adrien did it.
honestly i wish instead of them releasing an episode once every few weeks that they could just upload all the eps on disney plus at once when they're finished because I HATE WAITING AAAAA
I knew that this episode would have something to do with Chat Blanc. I honestly can't wait to watch this episode and I love how this episode is right before the season finale. I feel like this episode will probably impact the finale a bit.
@@NoctisNoxFleuret yeah but wont that get tiring to the viewer each time and what if the last / actual reveal doesn’t hold up against one of the other reveals?? Especially doing different storylines , 3 other seasons , etc
just watched the trailer and... ITS HAPPENING- EVERYONE STAY CALM- ITS HAPPENING !! REVERSED. IDENTITY. UMBRELLA. SCENE !!!! i never thought this day would actually come, i literally feel like tearing up LOL i swear this is gonna be my favourite episode... i'm so impressed by the 40 second trailer already, i can't even imagine how good the episode's gonna be. even all the different elements shown in the trailer look so fascinating to piece together: reverse umbrella scene, adrien going down the willy wonka tube elevator thingy to the butterfly garden, astrocat and cosmobug transformation (it looks soooo magical, i am in LOVE with the animation quality), gabriel in a catsuit (gives me the heebie jeebies ngl) etc. plus i ladybug's (finally!) gonna realise the similarities between chat noir and adrien during the umbrella scene, hence the flash from chat noir to adrien, then back to chat noir again holding the umbrella. this scene alone looks so beautifully animated! i wonder how they'd fit all this into a 20 minute episode like they usually do... my best guess is that they're gonna make ephemeral significantly longer, maybe 30/35 minutes long-ish(?) but i think 40 mins would be pushing it. a longer ep for the special occasion 100th episode, eh?
My guess is that the consequences of this episode will be Su Han knowing both of their identities, idk. Since the synopsis also states that Marinette HAS to find a way tot ell su han who CN is. But I feel like Luka or Alix as Bunnyx are going to be the ones to share the info with Su Han.
@@joseph86255 In the Episode Carapace, Anansi had Captured Catnoir and was about to remove his Ring but Catnoir Activated Cataclysm to prevent that. Hawkmoth says she needs to wait 5 Minutes in order for the Cataclysm to go Away.....Or I don't know Pick up a Random Rock have him touch it and make the power go away. Their are many example where Gabriel Incompetence comes into play. If he was Smart he would have Won a 100 Times Over.
@@KavinCatastrophe Yeah, whatever, dude. Personally, I'll never understand why people always expect characters to take the most simple, efficient method possible, even if it means killing the drama.
@@joseph86255 Im not saying I don't understand why the writers do it. But you can make him lose without making him look like a Fool. You can defeat a Villain who is really Smart and Make the right choices. You think Lex Luthor is Constantly being an Idiot when he Fights Superman.
This is going to be a great episode and luckily Gloob won't be able to spoil it. When we were going to get Wishmaker early in English and they purposely spoiled the huge parts just before it aired. I recently checked Gloob's channel and it seems they finished the voice acting for Glaciator 2 so their releasing it next Tuesday. Hopefully we don't get anymore spoilers because this is enough for me to get excited.
I am sure we are gonna see many diffrent timelines in which chat/Adrien tries to make ladybug/marinette fall in love with chat, so they can actually become a couple
i, personally, love the what if episodes. chat blanc is a perfect example of why. it shows us everything we wanted as fans. identity reveal, marinette confessing, adrien finding out about his parents... and how everything we want and ask for leads to a horrible disaster. its the creators telling us why it hasnt happened yet, and why we shouldn't be so frustrated over it. want adrien and marinette to finally date? fine, then all of pairs will be in an apocalyptic world. i get why people don't like them, but if nothing else I like see my curiosities answered. i get to see what would happen early, then still continue to have the same story I enjoy of them not knowing anything. and then I get to see what would happen in an entirely different way later on! I'm excited for this episode, even if there is no plot progression- which I'm sure there will be anyway.
I'm waiting for my phone to charge so I'm just skittering through UA-cam videos and I can't believe I managed to get this early to a video. Been wondering when this was gonna go up
I think it’s “what if Ladybug and Cat Noir find out their secret identities” just as written in the official synopsis. It will be like Cat Blanc except the other way around. So here’s my theory: Su-han sets this ultimatum, if Ladybug wants to remain Guardian, she must find a way to tell Master Su-Han who Cat Noir really is. Obviously LB will have to make a decision and makes the wrong one. And then we will see the fatal consequences of “what would happen if Ladybug and Cat Noir discovered their secret identities?”: Of course Ladybug does not want to give up her role as guardian, so she will try to find out who’s the holder of the black cat miraculous. She will remember all the little hints from the past seasons that she missed. Cat Noir on the other hand decided in Glaciator 2.0, that he would show Ladybug more of his true inner self, so she will puzzle it together. When we finally see CN flash up as Adrien for an instance in the umbrella scene of the trailer, it’s dawning on Ladybug and she is now sure that Adrien and Cat Noir are the same person. This opens up the possibility of LadyNoir becoming a couple. In the Cat Blanc episode we have seen how things went down in the Adrienette-case. Maybe we will see something similar for LadyNoir in Ephemeral: a different story but with the same outcome, which is Gabriel finds out that his son is Cat Noir. Coming back to the villains name, ephemeral, I guess something will happen for LB and CN to break up, obviously unwilling but there will be no other way, just as in Cat Blanc when Mari broke up with Adrien. This will provide Gabriel with the chance to akumatize his son - which he will do in order to get hold of the cat miraculous. He will name the villain Ephemeral because Adrien is heartbroken over his breakup with Mari/LB and despairing over the fact that their happiness couldn’t last. Next Gabriel sets up a trap for Ladybug and this is when we see her transform back into Marinette in front of him in the movie theater - and so he will be able to take the ladybug miraculous away from her. (Big question here: how will he be able to put on the earrings. But maybe I’m just lacking imagination lmao….) Then he will unify the cat and ladybug miraculous and make his wish. I guess this is when we see Paris in the strawberry colored bright light. As we all know, the consequences will be dire (and at this point we all will be super happy that it’s only a “kind of what if” episode!!!). After this I assume we will see the scene from the trailer where Adrien takes the elevator down to the basement and he will discover his mum and she’ll wake up again. What we haven’t seen yet is what exactly the dire consequences of Gabriels wish will be. Maybe some kind of apocalypse as seen in Cat Blanc…? Or everyone gets devoured by carnivorous zombie plants as foreshadowed by Kagamis manga? ;-) Or …. As it’s only “What If”, Ladybug will make a different decision in the end. So I guess Bunnyx might play a huge role in this episode. Depending on how they fix the timeline, let’s see who will be able to remember what and who’s memory will be re-set. One possible solution to this whole mess would be that Ladybug figures out that Viperion knows Chats true identity. Let’s see if they pull this off. Would be stupid if this would just end up as a plot hole.
Has it been confirmed that Adrien is Ephemeral? And I really hope that this isn’t like Oblivio or Cat Blanc and it only exists in an alternate timeline.
Yeah thank you for telling people its an WHAT IF episode. Only the half reveal is happening because Su-han told Ladybug to find out Chat Noir's identity if Ladybug want to be Guardian still and also the black cat miraculous is dangerous. I am so annoyed of people doing clickbaite titles that arent true for this episode. No the reveal isn't happening its a half reveal or one-sided reveal!! Also Bunnix might come in this episode to prevent Gabriel from getting Adrien's miraculous or something else. Not everything on the trailer might be true.
@@ShipperFireMist "If Ladybug wants to remain Guardian, she must find a way to tell Master Su-Han who Cat Noir really is." Scarabella tells Su Han, why not.
By what if, it will be like Cat Blanc where a lot of crazy stuff happens and near the end they'll pull a deus ex machina and undo these events but it will still have some consequences. I'm hoping that Marinette finds out about Cat Noir's identity and still remembers by the end. The reason why is because of the synopsis of the finale.
Yeah, I feel like this HAS to connect to the finale somehow. Why on earth would Marinette ponder revealing her identity "for the sake of love" otherwise? I guess the only way it could connect without a one-sided reveal would be if she somehow learns that the girl Adrien loves is Ladybug WITHOUT learning that he's Cat Noir. But that would be so disappointing. 😞
Guys dont get dissapointed if you think about it wishmaker was also a what if episode ,shadowmoth discovered both their identity but luka erased it ,but still luka got to know plus this episode was said to be necessary to watch,even though I am sure bunnix will appear in this episode and erase majority of things But somethings will remain canon,I am pretty sure marinette will get to know his identity but wont forget it,plus remember in chat blanc ladybug was Killed so thats why another ladybug from another time line came. Plus Here is my prediction for ephemeral Adrien 59% Lila 40% Felix 1%
Thank you for pointing out the distinction between Adrien getting akumatized and Chat Noir! It's been annoying reading comments all over the internet mixing that up.
I don't think both reveals will stick because the synopsis for the finale still has to play into this. I think Marinette will find out Cat Noir's identity but he won't remember finding out her identity. As for Shadow Moth, that's a bit of a toss up as to him remembering everything.
That's been overdone so many times. I still love watching Miraculous but how about they spice things up? How many times do we have to see both of them find out then forget each other's identities.
Só it’s probably gonna be just like Cat Blank an episode that will pull our heart strings and leave us at the edge of our seat, but in the end are erased completely and are non canon
Watching this I realised how poor I am at observing and remembering stuff from trailer. As if I didn't eatch it at all but I did wstched it 3 times! before watching your video. Great video,
Omg what if Luka gets akumatised or something, and that’s how Gabriel gets his hands on the miraculous because Luka can reveal who they both are 👁👄👁 my brain can’t handle all these possibilities 😭
I think these kind of what if episodes are needed to show what can happen if the reveal comes so fast. How everything can crumble if the identities are revealed. Its kind of like the concept of alternate timeline and its really interesting to see.
What I’m wondering is if Ephemeral is a “what if” episode, how exactly will it be impactful to the plot? Cat Blanc is a what if kind of episode, and it really didn’t actually contribute anything other than Adrienette fanservice.
When I first heard of the trailer I thought of making a joke. Basically about how mad the fan base would be if this turned out to be only a dream. What's a dream at this point is seeing a conclusion to Hawkmoth? What's a dream is doing an episode that would change the whole show. What's a dream is seeing a new main villain.
Honestly would be glad if it was just a one-sided reveal with Marinette the only one of the two to remember the events of the episode. They could even have Marinette de-transform in front of Adrien while he's Cat Noir because maybe he doesn't want to Cat Noir anymore.
So I just watched it, and... If Adrien finds out first, it's the end of the world. If Marinette finds out first, it's the end of the world. Okay only option we have left is them finding out at the same time and guys I am losing hope
Even though it is a "what if" episode, the episode will still affect the show in a way, like how chat blanc still stayed in Marinette's mind and in Oblivio where Ladynoir were caught kissing and they never remembered it. So then Ephermeral is still a thing and I guess the Ladybug finding out Chat noir's identity will be true and stay, since the guardian did tell Ladybug to find out Chat Noir's identity, then this will now progress to Ladybug grow feelings to Chat Noir uwu I know the trailer pretty much messed us up but I guess a one side reveal won't be that bad ? qwq (At least Marinette will finally know that she's been fighting beside with her crush the whole time jgjfjdghd)
I think that Marinette would be the only one out of two to remember the others secret identity. What I think is that Alix finally gets the Bunny Miraculous and becomes Bunnix. When Alix gives Ladybug the Bunny Miraculous back everything goes back to normal. Expect for the part where neither one knows the others secret identity. That is why in the trailer when the lightning and thunder comes we see Cat Noir briefly see him turn back into Adrien.
It makes sense as a "what if" episode because the suspense of the reveal is what keeps a lot of peoples' interest. There are still several more seasons to be released and it does not make sense for the show to continue if Marinette and Adrien get their happily ever after in the middle.
I seriously hope that it won't all be "erased" and that some things stick like how marinette is now worried for chat blanc. If this episode is nothing but a "would be nice if" and doesn't impact at least one thing in the over arcing plot, then it's just pulling our legs and the writers (and I'm looking mostly at Thomas) trying to milk this reveal for as long as possible... 😒😒😒 I'm pretty much only watching this series just to see if they can make this relationship between Adrien and Marinette 'healthy' and teach Marinette boundaries and to be chill somehow
Adrien finds his mom then I guess at some point he gives his father plagg... Like poor plagg he must be so scared that his best friend Adrien would do this to him And then he lets hawkmoth evilise him.. But can't blame him tho I mean he wants his mom back and then the love of his life keeps being mean to him this ep will be good
omg imagine Gabriel speaks about merging the miraculous together and so Adrien comes clean as Cat noir and hands plagg over not knowing Gabriel is Hawkmoth. Only to find out the devastating truth and he gets akumatized from finding out.
New 100% this was going to be a What If even more I hear it. MLB will never do something this big. Kinda getting tired of these episodes where they show us something super cool and then undo it but at least they're telling us ahead of time this time
Today morning I was doing my business on my toilet and I realised that 'wait a minute this was like this is one of the scenarios which could happen if Cat Noir and Ladybug's identity would be revealed' lol
Gabriel in ss1, ss2, ss3 : Nooroo, dark wings rise ( Hawkmoth ) Gabriel in episode 1 to 21 ss4 : Nooroo, Duusu, unify ( ShadowMoth ) Gabriel in this episode: Nooroo, Duusu, Plagg, unify (ShadowCat????😂😂😂)
What if Adrian find out about Gabriel being ShadowMoss and Emily's coma before he is ready. When he still obeys his father and never had confronted him. I think in finale we will see Adrian disobeys. And in season five he will find out but will not be akumatized anymore becouse of this.
@@mikrolurker in Chat Blank he was acumatized when he find out about his mother and father, and was too shocked. Now the reason looks similar, but with some progress. I think LB will have to live the rest of the season knowing Cat's identity, without knowing who is ShadowMoss and all that Agrest stuff that always brings to Adrian's akumatization.
…I’m convinced. By the time actual big events and things we’ve been waiting for since S1 take place in the show, we’re gonna be so un-reactive and unphased I doubt we’ll care much.
Why are they so afraid of moving the story along, especially the love square. We have gotten barely any development in that story line. The identity story line is always part of a what if scenario and never a real episode. Episode 100 would have been the perfect reveal episode, it has such a good premise. Why must they ruin it. The only story line that is getting developed is the hawkmoth and the miraculous storyline. Hopefully season 5 and 6 focus more on the other storylines
While I do not want to be traumatized, I think a what if episode would be a cop out or “ lazy” writing”. They keep doing these psych tricks the writers keep playing on the fans which I am getting tired of. If you plan something big like this, stick with it and have it move the plot forward. Also, this leads to major character development, but making it “what if” sets it backwards.
@@FeligamiAdrizoeSworaDooplivian oh they better. I want to be done with this show, but it still grabs me. And after coming up with my own characters for this show and trying to develop them, it is difficult to give it up. I definitely need more Plaag and Adrien moments. Plaag is a true friend to Adrien and I love that. But with shadow moth combining everything, I don’t know if he will cry seeing them or cry after. This is one reason why you cannot have the mind wipe because these moments would not happen. Just stick with it and show these heartfelt and heartbreaking moments. Make the characters and kwamis feel the devastation.
Cartoon apocalypse ( bruce here) you know this episode that is what if means everything can happen because it’s going to happen since if Adrien was Akumatized means su-Han was right about cat noir shouldn’t have the miraculous, but it’s more like this is what if episode then it really going to be like she is going to give back his memory since its is a different between cat Blanc and it’s more Arden is going to let ladybug down so it’s doesn’t matter if su-Han is coming to say that to ladybug or her as a guardian about it because this is what if episode anything can happen when things like this happened so it’s more likely that this comes from anyway possible so i agree with you being a what if episodes, so let’s hope that this episode can have clues in it so that we will figure it out soon, so thanks for your thoughts on it as an Analysis type of it, don’t forget to update your website for what going to happen when it’s comes out, still keep finding more of your throughs for the rest of season 4 for Analysis as well so good for it. Bruce
😱 oh my goodness, I have completely forgotten about him. It could be a possibility. Though I first thought that perhaps when Adrien finds out about his mother (if it's not a nightmare as some have speculated) Gabriel notices someone has gone in the basement and he later sees Adrien standing there in shock. Perhaps something happens and Gabriel tries to explain and somehow he convinced Adrien to help him bring Emily back. Who knows? The possibilities that have crossed my mind are endless
Now that I know it’s a “What If” episode, I know to not watch it. After all, while the spectacle of all these heroes joining together, Gabriel getting the Cat miraculous, Adrien being akumatized and the identity reveal would make for an awesome episode, what’s the point if it gets undone? It’s like the Tales of Arcadia franchise. All that time wasted because it was undone by the ending of Rise of the Titans.
This episode might be the episode were Alix will get her miraculous, she will help ladybug and CatNoir to travel to the future and look if what will happen in case Shadow Moth will get both there miraculous and use his wish, just a theory only hehehe..
Fun fact: "Ephemeral" means 'lasting only one day' is the concept of things being transitory, existing only briefly. So does that mean that the villain Ephemeral is going to last one day or what??
i feel this is the same in the sense of reveal then it is erased like Cat Blanc and Oblivio.
@@paintingdreams290 yeah me too ✋😊🙂
@@stefaniarusso i remember the definition of the title so it made sense
Hey guys maybe she finds chat's identity that he is Adrien but she doesn't forget it like in chat blanc she knew what would happen if they start loving each other , and so that umbrella scene maybe in the last when mari and chat are together and she is now seeing her Adrien in chat
I think ephemeral will last a day if it was adrien because he was set to die originally. But i do not hink it could be felix. The supervillan Ephemeral Looked like one of the twins tho . By Samuel
Considering how much official sources have said that this episode is really important and vital to watch, I think that whether or not it’s a “what if” episode is irrelevant. We’re going to get something important, even if it isn’t in a tradition way. It’ll probably be like Chat Blanc 2.0 in the sense that its importance to the story will be a mix of either symbolism or small effects that lead to later developments (and big ones at that).
I'm 99% confident that the one-sided reveal (Ladybug finding out Cat Noir's secret identity) will actually happen in this episode and won't be erased or reverted. It's gonna happen, I can just feel it.
@@yourlocalchloesimp Nah. The writers won't allow even a one-sided reveal before the last episodes of the last seasonof the series.
@@luciacamacho444 That's not true at all. They can't keep pushing it forward forever, plus, the original plot of the show ends in season 5 not season 7, which means all the reveals should happen before the end of season 5. That's not counting the fact that the characters also need time to process everything after it happens.
Taking all of this into account, *at least* a one-sided reveal should happen before the start of season 5.
I personally think that both reveals will happen in season 4 given how much the plot progressed in it.
@Marinette Alright, so... I honestly can't tell if you're trolling or not, cuz some of your replies seem pretty weird. I would usually tell you to leave me alone rn, but I'm too tired to do that, and I'm too tired to argue, and I'm too tired to even be triggered, so...yeah, maybe they can...maybe.
@Marinette This reply isn't weird tho, just your other ones.
thomas really be doing us dirty with these “what if” episodes
Yes he does😣
Not at all! I'm sure that this is the episode with the permanent one-sided reveal.
@@yourlocalchloesimp I think so too :D
I hear some random comments they don't like "what if" all about opinion
Taking inspiration from Marvel. Lol.
Don’t lie we’ve all watched this trailer more than once. It’s so nice🧎🏾♀️🧎🏾♀️🧎🏾♀️
Yeah, especially how the beat drops right when Cat Noir changes into Adrien during the umbrella scene. It's so good. 😩
I watched it 15 times by Samuel
I watched it more than 50 times☔️
@@yourlocalchloesimp yes!!! I loved that part❤️❤️
Ikr
Yea a lot of ppl have been kinda hating on this episode bc it’s a what if episode but what if episodes still have an impact on the story. For example, Chat Blanc. Mari is STILL traumatized from that event. Another example, Oblivio. Even though Ladybug and Chat Noir don’t remember it, it’s still canon to the world of Miraculous since Alya took that photo of them kissing. So I feel like this episode will still be very impactful even though it’s a what if episode.
Also I have a theory where Mari’s memories aren’t completely erased which I why during the Ladynoir umbrella scene, she sees Adrien in Chat. Her subconscious is tryna tell her that Chat is Adrien but she’s probably gonna ignore it ;-;
I know 😏
Ur so correct about Cat Blanc and Oblivio. Cat Blanc was the first episode I thought of hearing this what if episode. Ughh they needa get together already or something so that it’s not like in the last episode and we actually get to see them happily together fr fr no games
I believe she probably knows, but she wont be making moves on chat yet cuz she knows the consequences.
I'm just here vibing anyway, because a what if episode is very likely to have Bunnix somewhere in the mix, fixing the timeline.
i think people just want something to happen and actually stick with the show instead of everything going back to the way it was, which same though
I wonder which parts are going to affect the overall plot, and which parts will be erased. Love the outro song btw! I keep getting it stuck in my head xD
I personally think that the part which will affect the plot is the one-sided reveal with Ladybug finding out Cat Noir's identity. It makes more sense when you keep in mind the synopsis for the season 4 finale.
@@yourlocalchloesimp I'm not sure I'll be able to handle the cuteness of them knowing each other's identities for several seasons.
@@joseph86255 More like the disaster of them knowing each other's identities. They're gonna be a catastrophic duo. 😭
@@yourlocalchloesimp Define "catastrophic".
@@joseph86255 Just look it up, I'm too lazy to correctly define it.
Plot twist! Adrien discovering his mother is all in Gabriel nightmare!
LMAO your comment really made me just stop and stare at wall like, "hey, "what if" that really happens?!"
😂
it feels really specific for it to be a nightmare
Please happen lol
what if rhis is true
Um that would be an intense episode if so lol
I’m also thinking all of the “what if” episodes tie together thematically. Oblivio was “Adrien and Marinette finding out about each other and it working out”. Chat Blanc was “Adrien and Marinette finding out about each other and it not working out”. I think Ephemeral will be “Adrien and Marinette don’t find out about each other and it not working out.”
I’m also thinking if Adrien is Ephemeral, I think he’ll be a child. It would also explain why he only comes up to his Dad’s waist as opposed to his shoulder.
It’s honestly getting boring, it’s the same thing every time with very little effect on the story, and no real pay off
It kinda sucks that this is a “what if”episode. But still I’m hyped to see how it turns out-
This is completely random but hi Amphibia fan
@@ArtisticAlly123 hello
frr i thought this was gonna be the actual reveal episode
This episode looks amazing but this really should be a hour long
Yeah it's too bad that it's probably gonna be rushed...
Definitely should be a two parter it will be sped along like dearest family was just not too long ago. Dearest family showed tikkis growth and shadowmoth big charm breaking akumas but flopped in the repeat villains motive and use. Ephemeral is ment to be a sepical episode I can't see why they didn't decide to premiere it as a special (so 1 hour) or make it a two parter.
@Avishka 26 mins.
That would be cool if it was
The villain next to Shadowmoth is called Rythm. A concept was revealed a few weeks ago.
...details if you please?
Huh, I've heard of rythm, isn't she a make a wish oc akuma that Astruc showed concept art of
I swear to god if Adrian finding out about his mum ends up being Gabriel’s nightmare I will give up
Honestly, if all this is happening in one episode, I'm suprised that they didn't make this a two parter.
Can't wait to see how he gets the black cat miraculous
Yeah I agree 👍👌💯
I don’t know if Adrien giving it to him willingly intrigues me or if it sounds too safe. If written properly, it would be shocking and have an effect on the show because Adrien did it.
Did you watch trailer 2?
honestly i wish instead of them releasing an episode once every few weeks that they could just upload all the eps on disney plus at once when they're finished because I HATE WAITING AAAAA
I knew that this episode would have something to do with Chat Blanc. I honestly can't wait to watch this episode and I love how this episode is right before the season finale. I feel like this episode will probably impact the finale a bit.
Yeah I agree 👍👌💯
I think it's just Adrien not Chat Blanc
@@Bedlu77 I know but it is referencing to him if Adrien is working with shadowmoth in this episode.
Shadow Moth has now became the Shadow Panther
A rip off Black Panther 💀
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😂😂😂
I've been waiting for this, thank you!!
I could be wrong. But I feel like the "what if" episodes take away the shock factor that will come with the actual reveals.
I’ve never even thought about that before.. you kinda have a point 👀
I dont agree. They just have to do the reveal in a different way. Each time there's be a reaveal/something close to a reveal it has been unique
@@NoctisNoxFleuret yeah but wont that get tiring to the viewer each time and what if the last / actual reveal doesn’t hold up against one of the other reveals?? Especially doing different storylines , 3 other seasons , etc
@@sailorluna.3252 Exactly.
Oh it better be blowing my god-damned mind if the reveal, actually, finally happens
just watched the trailer and... ITS HAPPENING- EVERYONE STAY CALM- ITS HAPPENING !! REVERSED. IDENTITY. UMBRELLA. SCENE !!!!
i never thought this day would actually come, i literally feel like tearing up LOL
i swear this is gonna be my favourite episode... i'm so impressed by the 40 second trailer already, i can't even imagine how good the episode's gonna be. even all the different elements shown in the trailer look so fascinating to piece together: reverse umbrella scene, adrien going down the willy wonka tube elevator thingy to the butterfly garden, astrocat and cosmobug transformation (it looks soooo magical, i am in LOVE with the animation quality), gabriel in a catsuit (gives me the heebie jeebies ngl) etc.
plus i ladybug's (finally!) gonna realise the similarities between chat noir and adrien during the umbrella scene, hence the flash from chat noir to adrien, then back to chat noir again holding the umbrella. this scene alone looks so beautifully animated!
i wonder how they'd fit all this into a 20 minute episode like they usually do... my best guess is that they're gonna make ephemeral significantly longer, maybe 30/35 minutes long-ish(?) but i think 40 mins would be pushing it. a longer ep for the special occasion 100th episode, eh?
Its cosmobug
@@sonwukong6805 oops lol
@@hello1868 no probs
I heard its gonna be 26 minutes long but i have no idea
I’m hoping that this episode will be longer. I had the same thought where I was like I don’t want this to be rushed.
Getting sick of these what ifs. I want some development and change already. Still super excited to see it, of course
This episode will still have an impact like Cat Blanc and Oblivio.
@@dhwanishah8222
lets just hope to a larger scale this time, not just side lined or lightly and i mean very lightly mentioned.
All I can say is this episode will be just everything
My guess is that the consequences of this episode will be Su Han knowing both of their identities, idk. Since the synopsis also states that Marinette HAS to find a way tot ell su han who CN is. But I feel like Luka or Alix as Bunnyx are going to be the ones to share the info with Su Han.
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What if Shadowmoth was A competent Villain. I could see that being a Special.
Yeah I know 😊😏😌
Yeah, because Shadow Moth is so incompetent. That's why he's come so close to winning many times in the series.
@@joseph86255 In the Episode Carapace, Anansi had Captured Catnoir and was about to remove his Ring but Catnoir Activated Cataclysm to prevent that. Hawkmoth says she needs to wait 5 Minutes in order for the Cataclysm to go Away.....Or I don't know Pick up a Random Rock have him touch it and make the power go away. Their are many example where Gabriel Incompetence comes into play. If he was Smart he would have Won a 100 Times Over.
@@KavinCatastrophe Yeah, whatever, dude. Personally, I'll never understand why people always expect characters to take the most simple, efficient method possible, even if it means killing the drama.
@@joseph86255 Im not saying I don't understand why the writers do it. But you can make him lose without making him look like a Fool. You can defeat a Villain who is really Smart and Make the right choices. You think Lex Luthor is Constantly being an Idiot when he Fights Superman.
This is going to be a great episode and luckily Gloob won't be able to spoil it. When we were going to get Wishmaker early in English and they purposely spoiled the huge parts just before it aired. I recently checked Gloob's channel and it seems they finished the voice acting for Glaciator 2 so their releasing it next Tuesday. Hopefully we don't get anymore spoilers because this is enough for me to get excited.
'Them' on Social Media: "Ephemeral (100th Episode) is the most powerful episode in Miraculous History"
Also 'Them' : "It's a "what if" Episode"
I am sure we are gonna see many diffrent timelines in which chat/Adrien tries to make ladybug/marinette fall in love with chat, so they can actually become a couple
I WILL LOVE THIS EPISODE FOREVER
i, personally, love the what if episodes. chat blanc is a perfect example of why. it shows us everything we wanted as fans. identity reveal, marinette confessing, adrien finding out about his parents... and how everything we want and ask for leads to a horrible disaster. its the creators telling us why it hasnt happened yet, and why we shouldn't be so frustrated over it. want adrien and marinette to finally date? fine, then all of pairs will be in an apocalyptic world. i get why people don't like them, but if nothing else I like see my curiosities answered. i get to see what would happen early, then still continue to have the same story I enjoy of them not knowing anything. and then I get to see what would happen in an entirely different way later on! I'm excited for this episode, even if there is no plot progression- which I'm sure there will be anyway.
I'm waiting for my phone to charge so I'm just skittering through UA-cam videos and I can't believe I managed to get this early to a video. Been wondering when this was gonna go up
I think it’s “what if Ladybug and Cat Noir find out their secret identities” just as written in the official synopsis. It will be like Cat Blanc except the other way around. So here’s my theory: Su-han sets this ultimatum, if Ladybug wants to remain Guardian, she must find a way to tell Master Su-Han who Cat Noir really is.
Obviously LB will have to make a decision and makes the wrong one. And then we will see the fatal consequences of “what would happen if Ladybug and Cat Noir discovered their secret identities?”:
Of course Ladybug does not want to give up her role as guardian, so she will try to find out who’s the holder of the black cat miraculous. She will remember all the little hints from the past seasons that she missed. Cat Noir on the other hand decided in Glaciator 2.0, that he would show Ladybug more of his true inner self, so she will puzzle it together. When we finally see CN flash up as Adrien for an instance in the umbrella scene of the trailer, it’s dawning on Ladybug and she is now sure that Adrien and Cat Noir are the same person.
This opens up the possibility of LadyNoir becoming a couple. In the Cat Blanc episode we have seen how things went down in the Adrienette-case. Maybe we will see something similar for LadyNoir in Ephemeral: a different story but with the same outcome, which is Gabriel finds out that his son is Cat Noir.
Coming back to the villains name, ephemeral, I guess something will happen for LB and CN to break up, obviously unwilling but there will be no other way, just as in Cat Blanc when Mari broke up with Adrien. This will provide Gabriel with the chance to akumatize his son - which he will do in order to get hold of the cat miraculous. He will name the villain Ephemeral because Adrien is heartbroken over his breakup with Mari/LB and despairing over the fact that their happiness couldn’t last.
Next Gabriel sets up a trap for Ladybug and this is when we see her transform back into Marinette in front of him in the movie theater - and so he will be able to take the ladybug miraculous away from her. (Big question here: how will he be able to put on the earrings. But maybe I’m just lacking imagination lmao….)
Then he will unify the cat and ladybug miraculous and make his wish. I guess this is when we see Paris in the strawberry colored bright light. As we all know, the consequences will be dire (and at this point we all will be super happy that it’s only a “kind of what if” episode!!!). After this I assume we will see the scene from the trailer where Adrien takes the elevator down to the basement and he will discover his mum and she’ll wake up again. What we haven’t seen yet is what exactly the dire consequences of Gabriels wish will be. Maybe some kind of apocalypse as seen in Cat Blanc…? Or everyone gets devoured by carnivorous zombie plants as foreshadowed by Kagamis manga? ;-) Or ….
As it’s only “What If”, Ladybug will make a different decision in the end. So I guess Bunnyx might play a huge role in this episode. Depending on how they fix the timeline, let’s see who will be able to remember what and who’s memory will be re-set. One possible solution to this whole mess would be that Ladybug figures out that Viperion knows Chats true identity. Let’s see if they pull this off. Would be stupid if this would just end up as a plot hole.
I really like your theory of ladybug making the wrong choice and trying to figure out herself who the cat holder is
Woah I took a year off from the miraculous fandom and this channel. Dude, you really finished puberty! You look great!
Thank god you and your vids are around otherwise i'd still have crazy theories in my head
thank you for explaining it to me. Cause I had no idea what a "What if" episode was until now
Has it been confirmed that Adrien is Ephemeral?
And I really hope that this isn’t like Oblivio or Cat Blanc and it only exists in an alternate timeline.
Yeah thank you for telling people its an WHAT IF episode. Only the half reveal is happening because Su-han told Ladybug to find out Chat Noir's identity if Ladybug want to be Guardian still and also the black cat miraculous is dangerous. I am so annoyed of people doing clickbaite titles that arent true for this episode. No the reveal isn't happening its a half reveal or one-sided reveal!!
Also Bunnix might come in this episode to prevent Gabriel from getting Adrien's miraculous or something else.
Not everything on the trailer might be true.
Su Han sayd someone must know. Someone it is not nessesary LB. It can be Alix /Bunnix or Alya /Scarabella. But I hope one sided reveal will be real
True!
@@kliverikart5335 r u sure? It didnt say that on the synopsis
@@ShipperFireMist "If Ladybug wants to remain Guardian, she must find a way to tell Master Su-Han who Cat Noir really is."
Scarabella tells Su Han, why not.
By what if, it will be like Cat Blanc where a lot of crazy stuff happens and near the end they'll pull a deus ex machina and undo these events but it will still have some consequences. I'm hoping that Marinette finds out about Cat Noir's identity and still remembers by the end. The reason why is because of the synopsis of the finale.
Yeah, I feel like this HAS to connect to the finale somehow. Why on earth would Marinette ponder revealing her identity "for the sake of love" otherwise? I guess the only way it could connect without a one-sided reveal would be if she somehow learns that the girl Adrien loves is Ladybug WITHOUT learning that he's Cat Noir. But that would be so disappointing. 😞
So excited for this episode!!! I'm really enjoying the shorter videos, cause I have a very short attention span. 😂
What I hope: Marinette starts falling for Chat after seeing his similarity to Adrien and that triggers her softening up to him. Not a true reveal
Guys dont get dissapointed if you think about it wishmaker was also a what if episode ,shadowmoth discovered both their identity but luka erased it ,but still luka got to know plus this episode was said to be necessary to watch,even though I am sure bunnix will appear in this episode and erase majority of things But somethings will remain canon,I am pretty sure marinette will get to know his identity but wont forget it,plus remember in chat blanc ladybug was Killed so thats why another ladybug from another time line came.
Plus Here is my prediction for ephemeral
Adrien 59%
Lila 40%
Felix 1%
Agreed
Thank you for pointing out the distinction between Adrien getting akumatized and Chat Noir! It's been annoying reading comments all over the internet mixing that up.
I don't think both reveals will stick because the synopsis for the finale still has to play into this. I think Marinette will find out Cat Noir's identity but he won't remember finding out her identity. As for Shadow Moth, that's a bit of a toss up as to him remembering everything.
That's been overdone so many times. I still love watching Miraculous but how about they spice things up? How many times do we have to see both of them find out then forget each other's identities.
What if… I love the concept.
I don't understand why this episode is getting so much hate. I'm very excited to see it, I think the "what if?" concept is actually a great idea!
WOOOO FINALLY
CAN'T WAIT!
Só it’s probably gonna be just like Cat Blank an episode that will pull our heart strings and leave us at the edge of our seat, but in the end are erased completely and are non canon
Basically we are being clowned again
Watching this I realised how poor I am at observing and remembering stuff from trailer. As if I didn't eatch it at all but I did wstched it 3 times! before watching your video. Great video,
After watching the trailer all that went in my mind is "WHAT IF...!"
Thank you
I'm glad I'm not the only one whose Skeptical of the show now
I wanna see if Luka knowing their identities is involved, he wasn’t a main feature in the trailer but still 😭
Omg what if Luka gets akumatised or something, and that’s how Gabriel gets his hands on the miraculous because Luka can reveal who they both are 👁👄👁 my brain can’t handle all these possibilities 😭
so it’s a hypothetical situation.
I think these kind of what if episodes are needed to show what can happen if the reveal comes so fast. How everything can crumble if the identities are revealed. Its kind of like the concept of alternate timeline and its really interesting to see.
What I’m wondering is if Ephemeral is a “what if” episode, how exactly will it be impactful to the plot? Cat Blanc is a what if kind of episode, and it really didn’t actually contribute anything other than Adrienette fanservice.
Marineette vaguely know what caused Chat Blanc. It's because they're identities were shared.
When I first heard of the trailer I thought of making a joke. Basically about how mad the fan base would be if this turned out to be only a dream.
What's a dream at this point is seeing a conclusion to Hawkmoth? What's a dream is doing an episode that would change the whole show. What's a dream is seeing a new main villain.
Honestly would be glad if it was just a one-sided reveal with Marinette the only one of the two to remember the events of the episode. They could even have Marinette de-transform in front of Adrien while he's Cat Noir because maybe he doesn't want to Cat Noir anymore.
So I just watched it, and... If Adrien finds out first, it's the end of the world. If Marinette finds out first, it's the end of the world. Okay only option we have left is them finding out at the same time and guys I am losing hope
Even though it is a "what if" episode, the episode will still affect the show in a way, like how chat blanc still stayed in Marinette's mind and in Oblivio where Ladynoir were caught kissing and they never remembered it. So then Ephermeral is still a thing and I guess the Ladybug finding out Chat noir's identity will be true and stay, since the guardian did tell Ladybug to find out Chat Noir's identity, then this will now progress to Ladybug grow feelings to Chat Noir uwu I know the trailer pretty much messed us up but I guess a one side reveal won't be that bad ? qwq (At least Marinette will finally know that she's been fighting beside with her crush the whole time jgjfjdghd)
I have been watching the series since I was 7 years old. And I'm still not used to the "What if" episodes 🥲
My theory is that maybe its a one sided reveal like adrien reavealing his identity to ladybug or ladybug figuring out that cat noir is adrein
We are tierd of seeing "what if" episodes we want the real meat!!!
I think that Marinette would be the only one out of two to remember the others secret identity. What I think is that Alix finally gets the Bunny Miraculous and becomes Bunnix. When Alix gives Ladybug the Bunny Miraculous back everything goes back to normal. Expect for the part where neither one knows the others secret identity. That is why in the trailer when the lightning and thunder comes we see Cat Noir briefly see him turn back into Adrien.
It makes sense as a "what if" episode because the suspense of the reveal is what keeps a lot of peoples' interest. There are still several more seasons to be released and it does not make sense for the show to continue if Marinette and Adrien get their happily ever after in the middle.
I seriously hope that it won't all be "erased" and that some things stick like how marinette is now worried for chat blanc. If this episode is nothing but a "would be nice if" and doesn't impact at least one thing in the over arcing plot, then it's just pulling our legs and the writers (and I'm looking mostly at Thomas) trying to milk this reveal for as long as possible... 😒😒😒 I'm pretty much only watching this series just to see if they can make this relationship between Adrien and Marinette 'healthy' and teach Marinette boundaries and to be chill somehow
I’m excited for the episode and I was wondering is it going to be like the marvel what if series
I don't think it would be, then again the 200th ep might be one too?
SAMEEEEEE
whether the episode doesn't have a big impact on the show or not, ill honestly still be satisfied with the good writing they're gonna show us
I need this Episode to air now 😫
Adrien finds his mom then I guess at some point he gives his father plagg...
Like poor plagg he must be so scared that his best friend Adrien would do this to him
And then he lets hawkmoth evilise him..
But can't blame him tho I mean he wants his mom back and then the love of his life keeps being mean to him
this ep will be good
omg imagine Gabriel speaks about merging the miraculous together and so Adrien comes clean as Cat noir and hands plagg over not knowing Gabriel is Hawkmoth. Only to find out the devastating truth and he gets akumatized from finding out.
I'm soo exited for the episode, glad this video came out, I was kind of confused what a "what if" episode is))
New 100% this was going to be a What If even more I hear it.
MLB will never do something this big.
Kinda getting tired of these episodes where they show us something super cool and then undo it but at least they're telling us ahead of time this time
I already know but I can’t be shattered to pieces even more so might as well watch
EVERYTHING IN THIS EPISODE WILL BE CANON!!
Today morning I was doing my business on my toilet and I realised that 'wait a minute this was like this is one of the scenarios which could happen if Cat Noir and Ladybug's identity would be revealed' lol
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Gabriel in ss1, ss2, ss3 : Nooroo, dark wings rise ( Hawkmoth )
Gabriel in episode 1 to 21 ss4 : Nooroo, Duusu, unify ( ShadowMoth )
Gabriel in this episode: Nooroo, Duusu, Plagg, unify (ShadowCat????😂😂😂)
How about Shadow noir
@@sonwukong6805 😂😂😂good one
Black Shadow
@@kliverikart5335 That’s a good one but doesn’t suit Gabriel
What if Adrian find out about Gabriel being ShadowMoss and Emily's coma before he is ready. When he still obeys his father and never had confronted him.
I think in finale we will see Adrian disobeys. And in season five he will find out but will not be akumatized anymore becouse of this.
Interesting idea, yeah 👍
@@mikrolurker in Chat Blank he was acumatized when he find out about his mother and father, and was too shocked. Now the reason looks similar, but with some progress.
I think LB will have to live the rest of the season knowing Cat's identity, without knowing who is ShadowMoss and all that Agrest stuff that always brings to Adrian's akumatization.
…I’m convinced. By the time actual big events and things we’ve been waiting for since S1 take place in the show, we’re gonna be so un-reactive and unphased I doubt we’ll care much.
Why are they so afraid of moving the story along, especially the love square. We have gotten barely any development in that story line. The identity story line is always part of a what if scenario and never a real episode. Episode 100 would have been the perfect reveal episode, it has such a good premise. Why must they ruin it. The only story line that is getting developed is the hawkmoth and the miraculous storyline. Hopefully season 5 and 6 focus more on the other storylines
Chat Blanc 2: Electric Boogaloo
My guess for the what if is, what if marinette/ladybug fell in love with chat noir
This episode seems insane. But I also wish that there would have been less in the trailer.
Omg 😱 finally Adrian finds out about his mother In the basement they finally found each other that it is identities
While I do not want to be traumatized, I think a what if episode would be a cop out or “ lazy” writing”. They keep doing these psych tricks the writers keep playing on the fans which I am getting tired of. If you plan something big like this, stick with it and have it move the plot forward. Also, this leads to major character development, but making it “what if” sets it backwards.
Well keep watching
I'm about done with miraculous. If they don't give me any good Adrien and Plagg moments. Or Plagg crying seeing Duusu and Nooroo. I'm done.
@@FeligamiAdrizoeSworaDooplivian oh they better.
I want to be done with this show, but it still grabs me. And after coming up with my own characters for this show and trying to develop them, it is difficult to give it up.
I definitely need more Plaag and Adrien moments. Plaag is a true friend to Adrien and I love that. But with shadow moth combining everything, I don’t know if he will cry seeing them or cry after. This is one reason why you cannot have the mind wipe because these moments would not happen. Just stick with it and show these heartfelt and heartbreaking moments. Make the characters and kwamis feel the devastation.
I hope in the episode Ephemeral of Miraculous ladybug uses her lucky charm to save chat noir and get his Miraculous back from shadowmoth
Cartoon apocalypse ( bruce here) you know this episode that is what if means everything can happen because it’s going to happen since if Adrien was Akumatized means su-Han was right about cat noir shouldn’t have the miraculous, but it’s more like this is what if episode then it really going to be like she is going to give back his memory since its is a different between cat Blanc and it’s more Arden is going to let ladybug down so it’s doesn’t matter if su-Han is coming to say that to ladybug or her as a guardian about it because this is what if episode anything can happen
when things like this happened so it’s more likely that this comes from anyway possible so i agree with you being a what if episodes, so let’s hope that this episode can have clues in it so that we will figure it out soon, so thanks for your thoughts on it as an Analysis type of it, don’t forget to update your website for what going to happen when it’s comes out, still keep finding more of your throughs for the rest of season 4 for Analysis as well so good for it. Bruce
Nice Adrien shirt btw
I bet its felix or adrien "betraying" marinette.
I agree 👍💯👏
I think this is gabriel and natalie in the image of the villain you can see a person standing next to the villian
At 2:20 look behind marinette
😱 oh my goodness, I have completely forgotten about him. It could be a possibility. Though I first thought that perhaps when Adrien finds out about his mother (if it's not a nightmare as some have speculated) Gabriel notices someone has gone in the basement and he later sees Adrien standing there in shock. Perhaps something happens and Gabriel tries to explain and somehow he convinced Adrien to help him bring Emily back. Who knows? The possibilities that have crossed my mind are endless
Out of topic and hope you don't take it wrong but you looking really niceeee!😳
They better do the real reveal even more iconic than this episode
Now that I know it’s a “What If” episode, I know to not watch it. After all, while the spectacle of all these heroes joining together, Gabriel getting the Cat miraculous, Adrien being akumatized and the identity reveal would make for an awesome episode, what’s the point if it gets undone?
It’s like the Tales of Arcadia franchise. All that time wasted because it was undone by the ending of Rise of the Titans.
I have a theory this will be in bunyx’s POV her fixing all the things that have gone wrong bc this is 100% not able to all happen in 1 episode
I love your UA-cam.
My guess is that there isn't a reveal and Ladybug simply just envisioned Cat noir as Adrien because of the way he's holding the umbrella.
This episode might be the episode were Alix will get her miraculous, she will help ladybug and CatNoir to travel to the future and look if what will happen in case Shadow Moth will get both there miraculous and use his wish, just a theory only hehehe..
I don't want to see Alix. She's a jerk.
@@FeligamiAdrizoeSworaDooplivian bunnix kinda ruin everything hehe no hate
We now now u can use 3 powers at once
Miraculous what if should just be it’s own separate show