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- Geography Now! explains Italy. Talking food, culture, romance languages, a book and music recommendations. I save most of my commentary for the end. Leave your Italian language channels please!
Original video: • Geography Now! Italy
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From an Italian who lives in Italy.
First of all, your pronunciation of "Forchetta" is correct.
Excellent musical choices, Battisti is one of our modern poets.
Regarding France, yes we are frenemies for many reasons. France invaded us a few times, betrayed us against Austria, we fought together in WW1 and against in WW2 and in the end we make similar products (Spumante/champagne, wine, fashion, food...).
The most infamous and treacherous betrayal was the one committed with Mussolini's declaration of war in 1940. But despite everything (especially a popular, typical and widespread Italian provincial nationalism) the French love us very much (and the socio-cultural similarities between the two countries are much more strong than differences).
@@sergiomeazza I think you should study history.
We were allied with Hitler and against France. There was no betrayal in 1940.
@@uccc2282 certo caro, non c'è stato "tradimento" nella concezione formale in cui stai usando (aggiungo, abbastanza discutibilmente) il termine; c'è stato semplicemente uno degli atti più schifosamente vigliacchi (al netto della demenzialità strategica, della condanna storica e dell'obbrobrio morale in cui c'eravamo tronfiamente immersi) che mi vengano in mente.
It’s a bit more complicated…
@@uccc2282 Il tradimento è stato nei confronti del popolo italiano
As a French, I'd be surprised if Italians as a whole thought of us as enemies more than friends but I could be wrong. There sure seems to be a rivalry between France and Italy regarding things we both excel at, but we're so close culturally speaking. Anyway, my Italian housemate and I get along just fine!
No mate it's just rivarly! Definitely we don't think of France as an enemy
If Vercingetorix had only had a couple of tanks, we wouldn't be having this conversation. 😉😉
@@angelobisagno6792 Nice! I hope I get to visit your _bellissimo_ country someday. So many places I want to see.
@@Stogie2112 Vercingetorix actually put up a good fight though, even without tanks 😂
No no, we are best friends! But please return the Monalisa! xD
One thing I didn't know is that Napoleon was ethnically italian, and spoke french with an accent in his youth. His original family name was Buonaparte (he changed it later), and he belonged to a minor Tuscan noble family on his father's side, and a noble family from Lombardy on his mother's side.
Yep, and his father had supported Pasquale Paoli and his independent Corsican Republic. It's important to remember that Paoli and many others Corsican nationalists saw Corsican as Italians, something Napoleon played with while in Italy (he was French in France and Italian in Italy, whichever served his needs better at the time)
According to a biography I read (french author) he learnt to speak french when he was 14. Until then he could only speak italian
He is one of the many Italians who made his fortune abroad, like Ettore Bugatti And the Michelin family
He was france, he was born one year after Genoa sold Corsica to France
@@angelomontopoli1672 So does this make him a Frenchman? Does being born a year after Corsica was no longer Genoese make him French?If you think like this then it means that being French is worth very little 🤷🏻♂️
Italian here!
- You get the "Forchetta" pronunciation right.
- Calling someone "terrone" is slighty offensive not in the term per se but because were used to enforce a stereotype that consist in people of the south to be lazy, volgar and criminal. I think that it is like calling someone redneck in the USA, or at least it is in the same category of insult.
- I confirm the "frenemy" relationship with france, we compete on everything. In particular cheese, wine, fashion and football (soccer) and we are okay to lose to anyone except french.
- As italian youtube channels i will suggest you to listen to Breaking Italy , GioPizzi and Alessandro Barbero
Thank you so much for including Italian UA-cam channels, Fabio! I will look at them
@@NoProtocol No problem at all. Breaking Italy make daily video about the italian news. GioPizzi focus on geopolitical topic and Alessandro Barbero Is an historian. If you want a channel on a specific topic/genre feel free to ask.
@@NoProtocol No problem at all.
/me joins the bandwagon.
Yes, it's exactly like redneck in the USA
@@NoProtocol Hey take a look at "Geopop" too, it's an amazing scientific channel in italian, they recently made a video about the vulcanic situation in Naples, very interesting and you could use it to learn a little italian too😉
Another good one is "Nova Lectio", telling historical facts in a very accurate way.
The subject being Italian music, don’t forget about Ennio Morricone who composed some of the most iconic movie scores ever.
I’m very proud to be Italian! I love its history, from the Roman Empire to the unification of Italy!🇮🇹 I’m very happy to hear that many people appreciate my homeland ❤
Stai imparando l' italiano? Ottimo! Speriamo di vederti presto in Italia!
In concert?
@@gggmmmxspace ?
in case... be prepared to avoid a lot of guys who flirt whit you 😅❤
Hey, thank you for watching the Italy episode!
I'm Italian from Trentino Alto-Adige (the north region wich you was curious about in the beginning of the video). And there's quite a story about this region... As you saw it was part of Austria-Hungary since 1918, but then they lost the war and Italy recieved the land, being the winner.
The region is mainly divided in 2 parts:
*Alto-Adige* : the northern part, which has the majority of people that speak german, they are culturally austrian and share very little with Italian culture;
Then there's Trentino, wich is actually where I come from and it's like 100% Italian speaking, being like it for centuries, it was always under rule/influence of Italian rulers/kingdoms, and Trento (the capital city region) has always been an important economic city since the romans.
It's quite interesting because we usually are associated of being “crucchi“ ( meaning Germans but in a derogatory manner, like "Terroni" for the southern people's), but most of us don't even know 2 words in German 😂
But, jokes aside, it's important to say that, after the annection, all the people from Alto-Adige learn Italian in school and speks it fluently, they're bilingual.
I'm sorry for being this long, and I hope I explained myself!
Hey I'm from Trentino as well, and other Italians call me "crucco" too. 😂 Unfortunately I don't even speak German :(
@@emanuelezanon4262 Di dove sei? :)
@@mikza29_ Originariamente di un paesino su per i monti (Pejo), ma ho vissuto a Trento per diversi anni.
@@emanuelezanon4262 Bello il monte Vioz!
Io sono della Vallelaghi, non so se conosci, per andare verso Riva del Garda da Trento.
Bei posti, siamo fortunati. :)
By the way Campione d'Italia is surrounded by Switzerland and obviously they speak italian, but people speak italian in all the region. It's in the middle of Canton Ticino, one of the two swiss regions where swiss people speak italian (about 350.000 people). It's called the "Italian Switzerland" o "Svizzera Italiana" ( Canton Ticino and the South of Canton Grigioni )
Proud to be Italian.......my country is a fantastic place to live.....but like everywhere, there's some problems......but i love my country from the bottom of my heart❤
The term "Terrone" was originally born as a derogatory term, in recent decades it has become more joking (although many still use it as an insult). Same thing for "Polentoni", even if it is a few centuries older and was originally born as a joke, then became an insult and later returned to being mainly jokey. I believe that the real difference lies in how you were educated. As always 😅
It's great that you're trying to learn Italian! If in the future you decide to take a trip to Italy and are passing through Emilia Romagna (northern Italy), my group of friends and I would be honored to introduce you to food (lasagna, tortelli, cappelletti, potato gnocchi, the Parmigiano-Reggiano cheese and, obviously, the gnocco fritto) and the various cultural and natural beauties (such as the Bismantova Stone, mentioned by Dante in the Divina Commedia) of the area. And also our not simple history 😆
When I traveled in Ireland, France, Spain and Austria Is always happened to find by chance someone local who, on their own initiative, made me discover some of the hidden sides of their land. Those were the best moments and memories 😄
And in case it might be useful to you, this (DreamtimeYT) and Lost Archeology are my two channels where in Italian (but in live I also respond in a terrible English xD ) I talk about comics/manga/bd, boardgames, films and videogames in the first, and about archaeology in the second (I'm stopped at the moment but I'll start again soon). I was also thinking to make some video reactions on Barb's videos soon, starting with the one about Italy :)
You wrote a letter of three pages…
Are u a Terrone?
Terrone Is the italian Redneck
Italian here, first of all wow you are so sweet and smart lady ❤, second forchetta you said perfectly. Terroni is offensive and means "people who works the soil" (from terra), so are people poor with no a lot of education basically, but today you can say it also with friends, there is not so much bad feelings on it, today but it change how you say it. I am impressed about your interest and love about my country, culture, we have so much to offer, please come here and enjoy our vibes. ❤
such a lovely reply from @ReaperOfSouls83 : I agree 100%.
Thank you No Protocolfor appreciating Italian culture!!!
I agree that context is all in the use of words BUT just want to underline that certainly when 'Terrone' is said by a northern Italian to a southern Italian, it is a serious insult. When said by a southern Italian about himself or between friends from the same region, it is a reclaiming of the insult something akin to rappers using the n word in English. So I would advise that most probably you should not use it unless you are really southern Italian from Magna Grecia. A LOT of very terrible things happened to the south at the unification of Italy and these wounds have not healed partly because northerners refuse to discuss this and acknowledge the violence of their seizing of Rome and the south. I sincerely hope this can be conciliated and we can examine a really difficult and bloody part of our history so we can better unite. Otherwise the north will always call the south lazy and corrupt TERRONI instead of acknowledging that the south had a spectacular economy for MILLENNIA and its collapse (Naples etc) has ONLY been after unification..... there are lots of important but difficult conversations ahead and our country is very splintered in bad ways (economically) as well as good ways (culturally).
About the Frenemy France: I am swiss, my great grandparents emigrated to Switzerland in the 1910's. And I have been raised in swiss german mostly, only my grandparents spoke italian to me (mostly my nonna since my nonno was reluctant to speak italian because, at the time, it was seen as a disadvantage to speak italian by swiss). My Family became swiss citizens in the mid 50's (so technically my father was born italian until he was 9) and he married a swiss later on. I remember how confusing it was growing up. The italians in Switzerland saw me as swiss and the swiss saw me as Italian. But one thing I remember distinctively was when I had to learn french in school. Often I did my homework when I was watched by my grandparents. And my Nonna always smirked when she heard me repeating words in french and often dropped remarks such as "French isn't a language, it is a throat sickness" and "It is not a Romane language like italian or spanish but a mockery of all culture". And that even though she was born in switzerland and saw herself as swiss she never could shake this rivalry off that she learned from her parents. Yet somehow when compared to other countries like Great Britain or Scandinavians or Germans, she would side with the french over those. It was bizarre.. but kinda entertaining as a child to watch 😁
Edit: also, since both my Nonno and my Nonna's family came from the north (my Grandfathers family was tuscan, my Grandmother's from Lombardy) tehy always mentioned that everything south of Rome wasn't Italy but Africa. So the stereotypes were very strong with them. I don't know if that is still the case these days, but I find it amusing that no matter the country, people always have those weird mockeries inside their own country
It's not the very same today, times changed, but Italy is still the centre of the empire of weird mockeries, because of the many layers of long and dense history.
@@giovannimoriggi5833 Oh, believe me, Switzerland is the same. 26 Cantons, each with it's own culture and habits and laws.. are an everlasting fuel for mockeries. Luckily most is all in good humor
@@shanwyn Yes, Switzerland has same historical regions. The whole Italy does mockeries about itself, it's our stigma, but Italians made quite well in Switzerland too :)
@@shanwyn ... I always thought that Swiss people speak Cantonese. 😉😉
And I, however, can tell you that even today, for many people in the north Italy, “Southern Italy equals Africa”. Said in a derogatory way
12:25 "Even Nicolas Cage has some Italian in him" Really, Barby, you don't say? Nicolas Coppola is Italian? Who would have guessed?
I want to visit the Florence Baptistery, a magnificent building which Filippo Brunelleschi (1377-1446) used to create precise linear perspective drawings and paintings. He showed the world how to create an accurate 3-dimensional perspective on a 2-dimensional surface. His works forever changed the art world and inspired map makers to create much more accurate maps.
When I was in elementary school, one of my best friends was Frankie Rocco. His family was from Naples. His mother's maiden name was Rocco. She married a man named Rocco (no relation), and they moved to New York. Her husband died, and she went back to Italy to find a husband. She did, and his name was Rocco (again, no relation). Frankie's parents and grandparents couldn't speak English so, like you, he was bilingual. When it came time for high school, he chose Italian as his language. He failed miserably. I'll never forget the stunned expression on his face when he told me all the words that were completely different from those he knew. I guess every language is like that. I studied Japanese. The first time I visited, on my first evening there, I went into a store on the Ginza and began to talk to the clerk. I couldn't understand a word he was saying, and I told him so. He explained that I was speaking what they teach in school, but nobody really spoke that way, except perhaps newscasters. I was there for a month, and got around okay, but it was tough. My wife said that my eyes glazed over when people spoke to me.
As far as Italian is concerned, it is a slightly different matter. You seem to be talking about decades ago, when people were choosing their spouses in a tight environment, that's why many Rocco, but mostly that's why they couldn't speak standard Italian. You couldn't understand Japanese because you're not Japanese, but Frankie couldn't understand Italian being (in a way) Italian... Italian dialects are almost like languages, that's it.
Thanks for the comment, Giovanni, but that's really not the reason that I couldn't understand them. The Japanese language has many levels. I learned the language at The Japan Society in New York and private lessons from my teacher from The Society. We were taught a formal, moderately polite form, with a smattering of keigo (the very formal, honorific level). Most people, however, speak a more informal, colloquial form. Of course, they could understand me, and would often alter their way of speaking to accommodate me. BTW, with keigo, many words are completely different from the more informal forms.@@giovannimoriggi5833
@@EdMac40 colloquial languages are always different than their official forms, but it doesn’t make them dialects, try to understand me. For sure Japanese is hard as hell for westerners, but many levels are often present in languages.
@giovannimoriggi5833 Actually, Japanese, aside from the writing, is not a difficult language to learn. Compared to English, it's a piece of cake. For example, there are only 2 irregular verbs. I think English probably has a 60/40 ratio of regular to irregular verbs. I understand what you are saying about dialects. I live in The Philippines, and see many examples of it. As for levels, I don't think any languages outside of Asia have the kind of levels to which I'm referring. Like NP, I love language. I have studied Japanese, French, Spanish, and had 4 years of Latin in high school. The languages of the Japanese, Koreans and Chinese (and I'm sure some other Asian countries) have a completely different concept when we're talking about levels.
@@EdMac40 let me guess. The Nihon-Nippon dualism is an example?
Boot kicking two deflated soccer balls is a unique, but strangely accurate, way of describing the shape of Italy.
I hadn’t heard that one before either
the New England Patriots deny any involvement in the deflation of those soccer balls.
Football/Soccer originated in England, it is often assumed that soccer is an Americanism. In fact, the word is thoroughly British in origin.
Although football-type games have been around for centuries, the sport we know today is often said to have begun in 1863, when England’s newly formed Football Association wrote down a set of rules. At the time, it was the most widely played game of its kind in the country, but it wasn’t the only one. Rugby football, named after an English boarding school, was a variation that allowed players to carry and run with the ball to advance it toward the goal. The game played under the Football Association’s rules thus became known as association football.
Inevitably, the names would be shortened. Linguistically creative students at the University of Oxford in the 1880s distinguished between the sports of “rugger” (rugby football) and “assoccer” (association football). The latter term was further shortened to “soccer” (sometimes spelled “socker”), and the name quickly spread beyond the campus. However, “soccer” never became much more than a nickname in Great Britain. By the 20th century, rugby football was more commonly called rugby, while association football had earned the right to be known as just plain football.
Meanwhile, in the United States, a sport emerged in the late 19th century that borrowed elements of both rugby and association football. Before long, it had proved more popular than either of them. In full, it was known as gridiron football, but most people never bothered with the first word. As a result, American association-football players increasingly adopted soccer to refer to their sport. The United States Football Association, which had formed in the 1910s as the official organizing body of American soccer, changed its name to the United States Soccer Football Association in 1945, and it later dispensed with the “Football” altogether. No longer just a nickname, soccer had stuck.
Other countries where the word soccer is common include those that, like the United States, have competing forms of football. For instance, Canada has its own version of gridiron football; Ireland is home to Gaelic football; and Australia is mad about Australian rules football (which is derived from rugby). In places where football can be ambiguous, soccer is usefully precise.
It is called “calcio fiorentino” but it is different from soccer. It is similar to rugby but it has different rules. Was created during the XIII modeled after the “harpastum” played by the romans.
@@mr.archivityThe rules of calcio fiorentino (florentine football) are...no rules and lots of punches!!! That's all...😂😂😂😂😂
@@gabrielesantucci6189 yep, I was just saying to him because he took it personally as an English.
He forgot that other sports were similar but with different rules to football in the past.
Like the one the Aztec or ancient Chinese played
@@mr.archivityok bro👍😉
My favorite dish of all time is italian: lasagna. Thank you Italia!
Lasagne!!! And obviously they are "italian" !!!
so cool that you are learning italian 🤌
Hello! UA-cam recommendations from an Italian:
- Progetto Happiness (a must see)
- Jakidale (I think his content may be what you be looking for, in terms of getting used to the language)
- Andrea Lorenzon aka Cartoni morti
- Marcello Ascani
I think you could find some help also in listening to some podcasts, based on your interests.
In bocca al lupo con lo studio dell’italiano e ascolta tanta musica! A me aiuta molto nell’imparare una nuova lingua. Tanti saluti da Roma, vieni presto in Italia :D
Mike Patton, the singer from Faith No More, made an album of Italian pop songs back in 2010 (Mondo Cane). Il Cielo In Una Stanza and 20Km Al Giorno are probably my favourites from that album. Deep Down too. It's all good.
I just subscribed to this lovely and entertaining channel that i have been following for a while
Long time fan of the channel and Italian here, fun to hear you're trying to learn the language. 💪 I'm a big fan of Battisti myself, my favorite song by far is "La Canzone del Sole", some other great ones are "Il mio canto libero" & "Mi ritorni in mente". I highly recommend all of these. When it comes to learning, I used to be pretty good at several european languages but unfortunately I've travelled much less lately (I live in Sweden now) so I'm somewhat stale... anyways if you need someone to practice Italian with I'd be happy to help, maybe start a correspondence or something. Either way, thanks for the content and have a great day! 😃
Awesome videos! Italy has so many cool things to see, needs to be on my bucket list as I've only ever been to Venice which was beautiful.
There's a Scottish crooner of Italian descent, Paulo Nutini, you should check out. One of our finest, I recommend his songs "Iron Sky" for an epic song, "Scream (Funk my Life Up) for a funk inspired track and "High Hopes" for a great fun philosophical tune.
I laughed when you mentioned GeoPop because they're based in Naples and most of the presenters on the channel have a thick Neapolitan accent (perfect Italian though just a thick accent, like your USA Southern accent) that of course you're unaware of.
Language-wise this is the most noticeable thing about Italy: dialects apart (which are in most cases real languages on their own) standard Italian is spoken all across the country but with very noticeable accents, that is variations in prosody and accentuation plus the way of uttering some vowels (closed or open). A native speaker can immediately tell not only a northerner from a southerner apart but also the general area of a person's origin just due to the way their sentences sound and their use of the vowels.
Love this vid!
"Terra" means land.
Calling people from the south "terroni" was originally either due to the south's comparatively more rural nature, a reference to old administrative denominations and/or meaning "same color as the earth".
It's basically a big racial insult masked as a slightly smaller racial insult.
Of course, you could be pale, blond and with blue eyes and still be called "terrone", if you're, say, from Bari.
Also, while most people agree on what the south is, some more... let's go with "elitist" northerners would call "terrone" anyone south of Pavia.
Which funnily enough would include even us Romans.
As a French person, yes Italy is our frenemy. But our best frenemy will forever stay Great Britain ^^.
As a neutral observer, French and Italian look like half brothers or 1st degree cousins😳
@@elleanna5869 Yeah, pretty much ^^
As much as the french are our frenemies nobody is more of a frenemy for an italian than the close neighbor italian.
Campione D'Italia has an extremely interesting history about how it became Italian. It's been on my bucket list of places to visit since I first read about it almost 10 years ago.
Anyway Campione is in the middle of the italian-speaking Switzerland, the region of Canton Ticino. All the people speak italian there
Since most people I know only talk one language well and I consume all my media in English for decades just to be decent I'm pretty sure most people don't learn a language in one week outside of ordering at the restaurant. Every now and then you meet someone who just learned 15 languages but that's ultrarare pokemon.
Anyway Italy is legendary in so many aspects, food, wine, crime, soccer, disco, fashion, art, housing the vatican, having been the ancient Romans, a cultural trademark.
French Expression- " Half an Italian in the room is one too many". Frenemies indeed
Well, it Italy we say that "the French have made of arrogance a virtue", so we can say we're even :D
French are people of shied
@@Moribax85 Anche: "meglio un morto in casa che un francese alla porta"...
"Il calcio fiorentino" is a little bit like football (no, *NOT* soccer), a little bit like rugby and *A LOT* like MMA.
It's basically a bunch of burly guys fighting each other on the ground in 1vs1 pairs, until someone occasionally remembers that there's a ball in play.
There are videos on UA-cam.
It's brutal AF.
Thumbs up for your reference to “Signor Rossi” ❤
Almost forgotten by new generations, even here in Italy… so sad
Love to see another video ! I want to learn Japanese and French
8:35 Yes, terroni is very often used in a derogatory way(technically it just means land workers, but it is often referred to in a derogatory way since the north is seen as the more developed and wealthy one compared to the south), but also polentoni can be used in a derogatory way to mean slackers(technically it means polenta eaters)
Forchetta!! xD
You are one of the very few english spekers who understands "ch" makes for a hard sound, like "k". I've worked in Venice with tourists for years now, not everyone has the intellectual curiosity to appreciate what they are seeing, come visit ;)
In bocca al lupo con il tuo studio dell'italiano ♥
I just watched 'La Chimera' about an archeologist cum grave robber in Italy. His Italian isn't perfect so a character named Italia teaches him Italian, but she shows him that the hand gestures are as important as the spoken words.
It didn't occur to me that after unification there would be a language problem, but on reflection, plus your video, this makes perfect sense!
No Protocol Awesome Video Today!!🔥🐐🐐💎
Glad you liked it!
Thanks again for sharing all these music recommendations.
I believe Adriano Celentano was Italian. Seems as good a place as any to mention his song "Prisencolinensinainciusol".
Kinda relevant for languages too. Feels like a good fit.
And you may know that song is in a fake language. But yes, Adriano Celentano deserves a mention, always (he's still alive, btw)
I must say that every video about any country of course semplifies and generalizes things. The only thing you have to do to learn the culture of a country is to live there. The guy in the video explained quite well some aspects of our culture, though: we generally love soccer (we are used to say soccer *and* sport, for example); there still is some kind of dislinking between north and south of Italy unfortunately; I also liked the comment about the languages of Italy: there's an imaginary linguistic line between north and center-south of Italy: languages of the north are called "gallo-romances": they usually don't consider double consonants, they have "impure" vowels and use many "phrasal verbs", while languages of the center-south are called "italo-dalmatian", have less or no "impure vowels", and tend to use a pronunciation feature called "raddoppiamento fonosintattico".
If you learn Italian pronounced by an Italian you will end up learning a version of Italian influenced by some regional inflections. No Italian speaks standard Italian (except for voiceactors, some tv presentators or radio speakers) since it was artificially created to erase recognizable regional inflections. I believe it's like the English RP. You cannot locate it in a city or a region and it is not tought in compulsory schools.
I'm Italian and I studied Castellano at school and European Portuguese on my own. Even if everyone is saying that Italians can perfectly or almost perfectly understand Castellano I don't think so: we have many words in common, of course, the vowel system is almost the same and even the consonant system is not difficult at all for us. But learning the incredible amount of false friends is really challenging, as well as for the words that are the same but have the opposit gender or look like the same but have different suffixes. You also have to consider that many spelling or sintax rules in one language are mistakes in the other language. As the languages are still closely related, there is a subtle difference between "imitating Spanish" and speaking Spanish correctly. I believe that for Spanish people things works viceversa. With Portuguese is all a different story: the phonetic of Portuguese is quite difficult and reacher compared to the one of italian. Words can almost sound completely different even if they have the same origin. I personally found "easier" learning Portoguese: with Spanish (at least for an Italian, or at least for me) I had the feeling I had to take my language and use it with some little different rules here and there, avoiding insidious little mistakes everywhere, while with Portuguese it was like learning something very different so my motherlanguage didnt always come to my mind confusing my spelling, my sintax or my pronunciation.
Good like with learning Italian.
By the way Just remember:
Ca-che-chi-co-cu = k
Cia-ce-ci-cio-ciu = "tsh"
Same goes for letter "G".
Hugs from Italy
From an Italian born and raise now living in NY, you’re pronouncing of “Forchetta” was correct, in Italian the combination “ch” makes the strong sound “k” :)
Very good
For music, you could try (keyword try) to listen to indie music (it’s quite a popular genre in Italy, and there are many playlists on yt) - which is completely sung in italian, even though the sentences sometimes don’t make a lot of sense for italians too. Singers such as: Gazzelle, Pinguini Tattici Nucleari, Coez. But also Baustelle, or you could go with more “classical” golden era music: Celentano, Mia Martini, Patty Pravo, Loredana Bertè, Gianni Morandi, Ricchi e Poveri, Raffaella Carrà, Fabrizio de Andrè (a very good songwriter). As for books, I noticed that Elena Ferrante and her brilliant friend quadralogy has been a sensation in these last few years (they also have a hbo show on it).
Garibaldi by Alfonso Scirocco Is great history. He's the guy who with his redshirts unified Italy. that's just a small part of his story, captured by pirates, fought in Uruguay and Argentina etc.
I'm from Venezuela and i love your videos
An amazing Italian singer I recommend is the very poetic, very deep Fabrizio De André.
Except the one song in Genoese, which I can't even understand.
E a muntä l'àse gh'è restou DiuU Diàu l'è in çë e u s'è gh'è faetu u nìuNe sciurtìmmu da u mä pe sciugà e osse da u DriaA funtan-a d'i cumbi 'nta cä de pria.
Chiaro no?
@@tomtomspaHo scoperto che Google traduce anche dal genovese😂. Grazie di avermela riportata alla memoria. Ora me la vado a riascoltare...
Ombre di facce facce di marinai
da dove venite dov’è che andate
da un posto dove la luna si mostra nuda
e la notte ci ha puntato il coltello alla gola
e a montare l’asino c’è rimasto Dio
il Diavolo è in cielo e ci si è fatto il nido
usciamo dal mare per asciugare le ossa dall’Andrea
alla fontana dei colombi nella casa di pietra.
E nella casa di pietra chi ci sarà
nella casa dell’Andrea che non è marinaio
gente di Lugano facce da tagliaborse
quelli che della spigola preferiscono l’ala
ragazze di famiglia, odore di buono
che puoi guardarle senza preservativo.
E a queste pance vuote cosa gli darà
cosa da bere, cosa da mangiare
frittura di pesciolini, bianco di Portofino
cervelle di agnello nello stesso vino
lasagne da tagliare ai quattro sughi
pasticcio in agrodolce di lepre di tegole.
E nella barca del vino ci navigheremo sugli scogli
emigranti della risata con i chiodi negli occhi
finché il mattino crescerà da poterlo raccogliere
fratello dei garofani e delle ragazze
padrone della corda marcia d’acqua e di sale
che ci lega e ci porta in una mulattiera di mare
As a northern ”polentone" I can confirm the two terms, polentone and terrone are used as denigratory words.
Thank you Marco!
Fun fact about one of the more known Italian word, "ciao": comes from venetian dialect "sciavo" which means slave or "at your service", comes from the latin "sclavus", a word used to identity east European tribes... Wild...
en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/ciao#Italian
I always appreciate language facts
5:40 I'm Italian and this made me suffer. The Po river DOES NOT end in Venice. Its mouth is located in the Comacchio Valleys north of Ravenna, in the Emilia-Romagna region. Venice is located much further north, almost at the top of the Adriatic Sea, in the Veneto region.
Your explanation is not accurate either. The Po river, the biggest in Italy, flows directly into the Adriatic Sea after dividing into several arms in the so-called Po Delta; which is roughly located at the border between regions Veneto and Emilia-Romagna. Having the Venetian lagoon on the North and the Comacchio Valleys on the South. Neither of them receiving water from the Po. Actually water flowing into the Comacchio valleys in present days derives from the Reno river, while other minor rivers flow into the Venetian lagoon. The Po Delta Natural Park is also managed in collaboration between Veneto and Emilia-Romagna regions.
Not really a comment regarding this video, just suffice it to say that it’s refreshing to listen to a young lady who doesn’t use her head just for a hat rack AND digs on Prog Rock.
I check your vid channel every day. Refreshing, educational, and above all, fun.
Keep up the good work.
Please could you react to either the "Welsh not" or Capel Celyn please. I find that most people outside of Cymru have never heard of either of these events, and I think you might find them an interesting subject to look more into
you are welcome in my country, and we are happy with your studies .
08:20-08:29 as Italian I disagree with the 2 parts division, we usually consider three parts: Nord, Centre and South. None from Tuscany, Umbria, Marche or Lazio, could be called polentone (singular of polentoni) without make them laugh or even feel offended. Polentoni cannot even be used to refer to the whole nord, but mostly to those that live near the alps (Lombardi, Piemontesi veneti etc.).
About Terroni: it come from terra (ground, terrain) referring to people that mostly were employed in agriculture, in a scarcely industrialized south. It is still mostly used as an offence, but among friends is also used as a joke, even by south guys to self proclaim them as such. A word that is better to avoid when not really familiar with Italian ;)
When travelling to Spain it's not easy finding someone speaking English. But with our Italian and their Spanish we get along very well. However our Veneto dialect is even more similar to the Castellano than standard Italian is. When we visit Rome people there take us for Spanish.
My daughter in Spain tried to order an "orange juice" in a cafeteria; nobody understood what she was asking for. Then she saw one on the counter and asked: "How do you call that?" "Sugo de naranja" they said with us bursting out laughing. She just had to say it in Veneto: "Sugo de naransa"; much more similar than the Italian "Succo d'arancia". As a result we just speak plain Veneto while in Spain. People there think we're speaking some sort of South American dialect of their own language.
🔥 love the video protocol Stay motivated Dream big 1 mill on the way
Thank you! Have a good weekend (:
The standard italian dervies from tuscany language but every region have her own language, and that are influenced by peoples that invaded italian peninsula. Some part of sardinia speaks catalan, in sicilian dialect some word come from arabic, in southern puglia some worlds come from medieval greek. Also in Trentino Alto adige they speak Ladino that is a romance languge, in southern tyrol they speak a german dialect, in Friuli Venezia- Giulia they speak friulano that have germanic and slavics influences.
Po river doesn’t end in Venice but more then 100 km southern
Music from Italy I loved (I am Nigerian): Giorgio Moroder, mr. Phlagio , La Bionda bros (basically Daft Punk 30 years before Daft Punk) youtube will direct to their famous hits; Pino D'Angio who mastered the art of samples and paved the way for some black Americans classics to be cult in Italy; Napoli Centrale supergroup (jazz fusion ), Ornella Vanoni also Senza Fine, Senza Paura , Una ragione di più . Bruno Lauzi "Ritornerai" , "Se telefonando" (Delta V cover) 😁 Lucio Battisti was a rather huge talent. "Una donna por amico" ❤️
Nice entertaining and informative channel, congrats❤️
We also have polygonal walls, most sites are far from the cities. We call them cyclopeans walls, it's pre romans stuff.
Cyclopes built those walls (according to roman legends)
It's not Trentino-Alto. It's Trentino-Alto Adige. Alto Adige is the italian name of the South Tyrol region ("Alto" means "High", "Adige" is a river). Trentino is the region of the city of Trento
Yes, you right about the pronunciation of "forchetta"! 😊
In South Tyrol we speak, and have, two official languages (German and Italian) because prior to WW I this territory belonged to Austria, but at the and of it the territory, and all of its people, became Italian overnight.
“Terrone” is an insult and derive from the northerners thinking low of the people in the south because they used to work in the fields (terra=>terroni people who work in the fields)
if you want to listen to interesting stuff in italian i would reccomend the channel of Roberto Mercadini and also any of Alessandro Barbero's conferences (there are several unofficial channels and podcast collecting them).
1 Terrone refers to "terra" which means ground, soil. Basically is the peasant, who works the ground, compared to north of Italy which was richer and got industries, that's why was an offensive term
2 you pronounced forchetta correctly
3 yes we are frienemies with France the rivalry is about a lot of reasons such as history, culture, products, football, anything. Considering that we're all latins (and as we latins says, cousins), we have a deeper bond with spanish people. I live in London and there is a massive diversity here, easy to find people from different countries. As the guy said, italian and spanish bond immediately, we can even understand each other speaking our own language, something that is harder between italian and french. And is true, same happens with greek people. I made french friends here, but is different in some way. In their defense, i discovered that "the arrogance" that makes french people so unpleasant to our eyes is actually not related to french people in general, just french people from Paris. Which, apparently, are hated even from the rest of france 😂
Congratulations for looking at our extraordinary Italy... also called "the Bel Paese" and is for example the European nation with the greatest biodiversity (globally it is Brazil)!✌😉
In Italy, as the video shows, not only German is spoken (Trentino Alto Adige) and dialects of French origin (Valle d'Aosta), but also Greek and Albanian (in my region, Calabria) following ancient settlements here in southern Italy ...☺
Ciao!
If you are learning italian, try to see the lion king (1994) in italian. Our voice acting is pretty good, the adaptation of songs is crazy awsome. And Vittorio Gassman is totally perfect for JEJ's Mufasa 😍 he's like an old wise grandpa warming love...
I didn't notice anyone explaining where "terroni" comes from so I'll do it. Terrone - singular / Terroni - plural: this term derives from "terra" - earth/dirt. Northeners frequently referred in this derogatory way to the southeners who were less technologically advanced then them. North Italy entered the industrial era way sooner than south, and southeners stayed behind, being identified mainly as farmers and uneducated people. So "terrone" means farmer, but also ignorant, uneducated.
VERY ACCURATE
Italian book recommendation: Anything by Dino Buzzati.
Music: 99 Posse, O'Zulu, Caparezza, Sud Sound System, La Fossa, Dr Boost etc Here is a link featuring 2 of them:
ua-cam.com/video/WxK42M8JYCg/v-deo.html and Sud Sound System singing an old partisan song you might know: ua-cam.com/video/3vu0uVKJaUU/v-deo.html
You are absolutely correct and the Word Is forchetta with the strong sound of the ch. He actually makes a lot of mistakes during the video, you should exercise Spotting them! 😂
E che bello che stai imparando l'italiano!!
I really want you to react to the "geography now: Greece" video. It is so interesting and i want to see your perspective about that. Thank you from the beautiful Greece
I am rather pleased I knew of most of the famous Italians he listed!
I don't really know much Italian music, only really the operas (which I am not a huge fan of), but a frined who is Italian likes "Tu vuò fà l'americano" by Renato Carosone
Books: there's a couple i have read in the past few years one fictional the other apparently based on an actual incident, both of which I enjoyed - but, of course, can neither recall titles nor authors!!!
I just thought of another sport you might consider for your list, if it isn't on it already: Kokpar. I'm not an expert, but I might describe it as rugby on horseback. It's popular in central Asia iirc.
That’s definitely one that I haven’t heard of yet
how big is that mug and does it come with any other patterns??
The "friendzone" is my favorite part of these videos. I hope they are accurate, something about the perspectives and relationships of countries with each other facinates me.👍
We “hate” each other based from where we are from, region, city, town, village but nobody can say a bad word about our country, we are totally proud to be Italian.
I recommend the Italian UA-camr “Guido” which makes great historical content and has a great video on Italy’s role in WW2. You can even do a reaction on this channel. The video is in Italian with the option to watch it with an English voice-over in the audio tracks settings, but I personally watch it in Italian with English subtitles.
It took me a moment to find the channel but now I’m listening to his newest video. He’s quite funny! Thanks for sharing (:
09:46-09:47 Correct: 'CH' always is the K sound, 'C' without 'H' is the 'CH' of English or German! but is is valid only with 'E' and 'I', while 'C' with 'A', 'O' and 'U' sound always as 'K' and these three vowels never require and 'H' in pure Italian words. A word like chocolate in Italian is written as cioccolato, having the 'I' to resemble the English sound of 'ch' ('the italian 'cio' sound as the English 'cho'). Then the 'C' is doubled before the second 'O' to remark the sound 'K', that is stronger then in word with a single 'C'.
Similar thing happen with 'G' like 'GHE' has the sound of 'GE' in the English word get
I suggest you Nova Lectio and La storia sul tubo, nice cultural italians channel in my opinion.
I think that the term "Terrone" was born as mocking for us southeners less developed economy, which was mostly focused on farming. Hence the term "Terroni" that comes from the word "terra" which means "earth", linking us to the earth we plow for growing stuff. That's and uneducated guess however
Po river doesn't end in Venice, though. Venice is norther.
Rugby with MMA added, absolute madness, worth a watch though
To be frenemy with france I think is a requirement for all European nations😆,jokes aside for Italians the French are our cousins we are very similar but at the same time different In the video I find some mistakes like the river po doesn't end in Venice. If I understand it correctly it indicates the major Italian income from luxury products but it is not so but from the sale of industrial machines,robotics,space,and Weapons,when I knew it to surprise me too.
What language apps do you use (books and shows is a given)?
I don’t use any apps but I’ve linked a couple of good learning channels in the description!
As a native Spanish speaker, now living in Portugal, I found spoken Portuguese from Portugal quite challenging. Much more so than Brazilian Portuguese. As far as reading and writing, that's way more easy, as the overlap in words between Spanish and Portuguese is more than 80% of words, if I understand correctly, including many words which aren't exactly spelled the same, but close enough to be easily inferred.
Adriano Celentano and Paolo Conte are musicians I like. Svalutation and Sparring Partner are good songs, but they both have many.
Terrone comes from the word "terra", Italian for land. According to people in the north, people in the south were just ignorant, uneducated farmers that were good only to work the land. Many times southeners emigrated in the north were experiencing proper racist episodes due to this stereotypical idea. Nowadays despite not being a nice word it's not that offensive anymore, perhaps because many people have root both from north and south of italy
Thanks for this explanation!
The letters "ch" make the k sound, so it's Forketta when pronounced. We get along less with France lately, but we are not enemies with them... In Italy the various regions have their own dialect, and if you speak the strict dialect, as many elderly people do, it is often difficult to understand what they are saying... Polentini and Terroni are insults that the north and the south have been throwing at each other for years. When a long time ago people from the south migrated to the north for job opportunities, as the south was the poorest part of Italy. Terroni derives from the word "Terra" (land), given that in the south more or less the only job opportunity was to cultivate the land, in two words it is to call someone dead of hunger, given that working in the fields didn't pay much, in salary. Before becoming a criminal organization, the mafia was an anti-government organization, given that the government was not interested in the situations that arose in the south, such as great poverty. The mafiosi were often money lenders who became loan sharks because they expected a financial return on the money lent, often with interest much higher than the sum lent. For example, if they lent $5 they expected $50 in return. At the time, $5 dollars was a lot of money, and often, especially $5 couldn't even be made with a month's work in the fields. So yes, the facts described, for the most part, are true.
You look amazing amore ❤ thank you for everything gracias. I’m learning Spanish 😅❤
Good luck with Spanish, Will!
@@NoProtocol Thks ❤
the origin of the Italian language is a little more complex than that. It all originates in Sicily, with some manuscripts saved in Tuscany retranslated into vernacular Tuscan. Literally, TV took Tuscan, mixed it with all the dialects and used it until Italy adopted it as standard Italian. But overall yes, Italian is a sort of ancient Tuscan dialect that has been slightly reworked
By the way Italian is the only language in the world which was originally "created by poets". That's why it sounds so good: it's an artwork.
Is that you narrating on Earl Sweatshirts newest album?
Terrone?
Reminds me of "Terra ca nun senti" by Rosa Balistrieri. Very much not standard Italian, lol. Very sentimental song in a good way, though.
I’ll still listen to it!
It's terrone, terrano is not a word in Italian
(btw it's name for an Italian wine)
@@giovannimoriggi5833 ah, sry. Might not have been entirely sober while writing that. I don't use my Italian knowledge too much these days and Spanish is pretty much wired into my google autocorrect xD. I'll correct it now.
About neo-latin languages.
"Canis" means "dog" 🐕🦺 in Latin. Which is called cane in Italian, chien in French, caīne in Romanian, cachorro 🤔 in Portuguese. Perro in Spanish? 😱
And "butterfly" 🦋? "Papilio" in Latin and papillon in French but...farfalla in Italian, mariposa in Spanish, fluture in Romanian, borboleta in Portuguese 😂
Hannibal was actually defeated at Zama, he won every battle he fought in Italy.
i suggest you "Cantina Wesa", "Breaking Italy" and "Michele Boldrin" - but there are many other youtube channels - what are your interests?
Some channels I watch in Italian:
Gaming - Quei Due Sul Gaming
History Lectures - Metaphysical Club
Cultural/Social Essays - Nova Lectio
Space/Astronomy - link4universe
News/Gossip - Breaking Italy
edit: Type Circolo Metafisico instead of Metaphysical Club.
Thank you for this! You’re the second person to mention Breaking Italy so I’m going to check them out first (:
@@NoProtocol Yeah well whatever your interests are I think those are best. I never watch stuff in another language I wouldn't normally watch in English. I'll usually just type that subject/interest in the target language, find a video and then look at the recommended on the side and kind of go through them to see which ones I like.
I suggest you Nova Lectio as an Italian UA-cam channel. Very informative
If you want to listen some Italian musics i suggest you Franco Battiato. He was amazing and he is my favourite artist and many of his songs are translated in spanish too. these are few of this songs: Voglio vederti danzare, No time no space, Nomadi, la Cura ,Cuccurucucù, Bandiera bianca, Sentimiento nuevo, Centro di gravità permanente, Gli uccelli, Chan-son egocentrique, I treni di Tozeur, Inneres Auge. I hope you will enjoy these masterpieces, kisses from Sicily ☺
Hi from italy, verona ❤️
I would love to know what is your name?
Are you from the USA?
Or a south American country?
I love seeing your contents