Can God Send Someone to Hell Who NEVER Heard of Jesus? | Dr. John Lennox
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- Renowned mathematician and philosopher Dr. John Lennox explores the question of whether God can send someone to Hell who is born outside the Christian faith. Challenging the narrow view of salvation, Dr. Lennox examines biblical perspectives and the diversity of human spiritual experiences to present a more expansive and compassionate view of God's plan for salvation.
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John 14:6 (NIV): "Jesus answered, 'I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.'"
John 3:16-18 (NIV): "Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son."
Acts 4:12 (NIV): "Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to mankind by which we must be saved."
💯 I have no idea how John or the narrator if having read Gods Word sees any alternative to salvation other than Christ Jesus
@@jimixoye Then how do people who never heard Jesus get in?
@@Mamba4.8there is no other way of salvation other than Christ the bible is clear - if we suppose/teach that there are other ways then it’s unbiblical and dangerous - how many people genuinely suppose that God will make some kind of exemption for them Acts 4:12 🙏
@@jimixoye I asked what about people who never got the chance to hear about Christ. How can they profess what they don't know? Most of you never thought about that.
I believe God would have a plan for those people.
The Bible says God is just and fair too.
Is it fair people or kids who never got a chance to hear about Christ to be damned?
@@jimixoye Acts 4 12 aren't Christ words
Jesus said it would be more
Tolerable for sodom who never heard the gospel
Than for those who have
Heard and rejected!
I would like a chance to answer this
According to God's mercy he does not impute sin where sin is not done
Then Jesus died for all
Since Jesus is LORD of the quick and the dead
When a soul stands before him
He has the authority to offer to the unheard a chance of redemption
If the unheard is willing then Jesus could send that soul before justice and faith
Then all have a chance
As Jesus hung on the cross he died for every soul
Even the unheard
Wouldn't a scripture or two give legitimacy to the explanation.
Here is something that may help.
(Ecclesiastes 9:5) For the living know that they will die, BUT THE DEAD KNOW NOTHING AT ALL nor do they have any more reward, because all memory of them is forgotten.
Those who die cannot stand or go anywhere. They cease to exist. Only a resurrection can bring the dead back into existence. God resurrected Jesus back into existence. Acts 2:32.
Jesus' death covers all humans no doubt.
Since acceptance of Jesus' ransom sacrifice is mandatory for everlasting life (John 3:6), what about those who died prior to Jesus' coming. Say, Noah, Abraham, Moses and David.
Ever given it a thought.
If they have not heard about Christ and come to Him in repentance and forgiveness of sin of not knowing Him then if they belive trust and obey and follow Him then they are saved being born again .. otherwise it's what God's word says in Jude " snatch them from fire "..
Of course a deligent Seeker of God and even the atheist wi He give an opportunity to know Who He is..If they miss an opportunity He may still continue to intervene and even after all that one fails to enter the arc then they are condemned to damnation..
AMEN 💯true
@@tongakhan230 Yes that’s true and salvation can occur after death-the gospel of Christ is a saving gospel for the dead as well as the living as 1 Peter 4:6 tells us:-
“The gospel has for this purpose been preached even to those who are dead that though they are judged in the flesh as men,they may live in the spirit according to the will of God”
Many near death experiences narrate how unsaved people die,go to hell and are rescued from hell by Jesus when they call his name.
Conservative evangelicals love to exclude as many as possible from heaven,but scripture tells us that “neither death,nor power or principalities can separate us from the love of God”
@@keithrogers4170 : With respect. Seems that one has missed the point.
1 Peter 4:6....those who are dead that though they are judged in the flesh as men
This is talking about those HUMANS who were dead in sin.
The good news would make them come alive and live as God intended.
Actual dead persons cannot hear anything or take any trips as they have ceased to exist.
(Ecclesiastes 9:10) Whatever your hand finds to do, do with all your might, for there is no work nor planning nor knowledge nor wisdom in the Grave, where you are going.
Thank you for this!
God makes all people. He knew each of us before the creation. If God allows a child to be taken from cancer, that child is now with God. Far better off than the healthiest person will be on this earth. God gives life. He can take it aswell. He is our creator. This life on earth is short. Eternity is what we live for. The part of life that we love, is the part God created for us. the part of life we don't like is the part man created.
The parts of life I love are my family, community, and profession. No god created those. They were painstakingly created by the people who live here and by their ancestors. God did not create me-my mother did. God did not create my child-her mother did. No supernatural miracles were needed at any time. It remains self-evident that if I do not believe the supernatural exists, then the supernatural can never affect me. Prove me wrong and become the most famous person on the planet.
Where do you get the idea/concept of love? Without God isnt that "feeling" just a bunch of random chemical reactions in your brain stirred up in a certain way? And if that's the case, we're nothing more than molecular robots with no free will just uncontrollably reacting to our environment. Where scientifically does consciousness and first life come from? And just wondering, are you "choosing" not to believe in the supernatural or truly don't believe in it? The fact ANYTHING exists seems to be rather supernatural... especially if everything came to be by chance without an intelligent designer, God. It truly requires more faith to be an atheist
Does that include Muslim kids that didn’t have a chance to learn about Jesus? Pretty sure “thou shalt not have any other gods before me” is a deal breaker.
"Religion began when the first scoundrel met the first fool."
"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere."
Voltaire
@@AtamMardes religion maybe, but relationship?
Besides Voltaire was a deist for what it's worth
The better question is what loving, just, or merciful being would ever assign INFINITE PUNISHMENT FOR FINITE ACTS.
Acts 17: 23-34
"God judges people based on the evidence they have had, not on the evidence they haven't had." So it would be better for everyone for Christians not to share the gospel then.
Yes in reality
Which is why Lenox is totally wrong here. The Bible doesn’t say that God judges us according to evidence we may or may not have, God judges us according to our sin. God doesn’t throw people into hell simply for not believing, it’s because not believing is the greatest sin one can commit and a just God must punish sin. If one never hears the Gospel, they still go to hell because they have sinned against God. Nobody deserves to hear the Gospel, God in His amazing grace gives it to us as a gift! That’s why we urgently preach the Gospel to every creature!
The question then becomes what is the purpose of punishment? Is it purely retribution (timoria) or is it restorative (kolasis). On Mt 25 the phrase eternal punishment (aionias kolasis) is better translated the chastisement of that age and not punishment that goes on forever. The word eternal (aionias) is not primarily a quality rather than a quantity or duration.
God's good pleasure is to make Mankind in his image and through the Cross He will achieve this without losing any of His creation. Eventually every knee shall bow and every tongue confess (willing profession not coerced by power) that Jesus Christ is Lord to the Glory of God the Father. Believe and proclaim the Gospel, it is Good News for All people. Grace and Pearce Romans 11v32-36
That should read aionias is not primarily a quantity but a quality that reflects God's character which is Love. 1Jn 4
@@kaydenjones6616, I think that is probably right. I just don't understand how a just God could create people and not even give them a chance at redemption. Maybe, as you say, we don't "deserve" the gospel, but the whole thing hardly seems fair nonetheless.
Jeremiah 1:5 *"Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee."* Im sure this applies to all of GOD's creations.
Add to that that the internet itself proves that today we can learn about and research anything we desire...The internet assures that as scriprure tells us, everyone will hear and make that choice.
Answer to question is found in Romans 1 and Acts 17.
You might think so but being a cult member you believe anything.
@@truthgiver8286
All will believe. Philippians 2.10, perhaps the next injection will persuade better. Rev 13.17
Try and be specific. Like saying Romans 1:6 as an example.
Which points to the 6th verse in the 1st chapter of Romans.
Just a suggestion to help.
@@truthgiver8286
Rev 13.17 says otherwise.
Yes
Really? People who never heard and learned anything about Christianity would burn in hell? I mean if that’s true how can god be loving and merciful
"Religion began when the first scoundrel met the first fool."
"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere."
Voltaire
wow - Voltaire , a man? has he got encoded the Golden ratio in his name? YHVH..Phi and the TetraGrammaton
- or has his name got gematria encoded. value 26, 5.6.5.10 the DNA bridge sequence?
Does his name means YOD HEY VAV HEY... BEHOLD HAND BEHOLD NAIL.
Did he write a book in spooky number sequences. ... the KJV of the bible - 7 to the power of 7 words. 7x7x7x7x7x7x7 =
Voltaire will be judged. LIKE YOU.
Why does a man hate JESUS... Jesus will end DEATH.
and some people like DEATH. the DEATH WISH.
atheists like perfection, and death is so perfect? its lovely. BLACKNESS FOREVER. and JEsus spoiled it? Now you will be judged?
have to live? have to keep going for all eternity.
like the universe. MATTER and ENERGY cannot die. In a closed system. And JESUS is the one that will wake you up every day?
will get you out of bed. Get you to work? and you don''t want that. YOU WANT BLACKNESS.
Eternal life is the real terror. Death is what you wish for? AM I RIGHT . Jesus spoiled it.
Nobody chooses to exist. If there is equity in God's plan, than there must be an option to simply cease to exist at physical death. Since I never wanted to exist, and would never have chosen to exist, I want simply to cease to exist at death.
God’s equity comes in letting you choose to live your life with him or separate from him and he will honor that choice. Life is a gift, and you are right that you didn’t choose to exist, but that is not something that you have agency to choose. Life is something you have the will to choose over. That is exactly what hell is in the Bible, it is death because God is life, and you choose to live your life separate from life. Also, the point about never wanting to exist doesn’t matter because you have no control over existing and can’t change the fact that you do exist. The reason you have two options is because, in light of the fact that you exist even without wanting to, you, me, and everyone has sinned against God and we are all destined for judgement against an infinitely holy and just God with infinite authority, we are destined for an infinite punishment of separation from God and all which aligns with God and his nature (life, good, etc.). But Jesus died for our sins and offered reconciliation so that are sins, which are choosing a path separate from God, are covered and we can live in unity with God.
@@walkercresswell1721 for me, I will just die then cease to exist from then after.
You go ahead and negotiate all the other logistics you mentioned. I will pass on those.
God is our creator and has “creator-rights” over us and all His creation. We don’t decide the terms of equity, only God can. This is His world. We have to understand that the universe is like a peanut in God’s pocket and for us to say that we have any right to tell God what’s wrong and right contrary to his word is lunacy. God sets the terms. And he demands perfect obedience from His creatures. The problem is that we have all sinned and broken God’s law. Including you and including me. And because God just He must punish sinners and the punishment for sin is Hell. BUT God is His mercy and grace sent His only son into the world to save sinners by becoming a substitutionary sacrifice on our behalf, and paying our debt to a holy God by dying on the cross and bearing God’s wrath. And three days late He rose from the dead. If you simply repent and trust in Christ alone for salvation, He will wash away your sins and give you the free gift of salvation!
@@skippy675 just because we believe something doesn’t make it true.
@@kaydenjones6616 nope. I choose not to exist. This is not God's decision.
Is it the reindeer that can fly or is it Santa that uses magic to make them fly? Does the real Santa know about all the fake ones? Can Santa change size, make himself invisible, and make time slow down? If I sleep over at my cousin's house Christmas does Santa deliver the presents to my house or my cousin. Does Santa send presents to people in jail if they are innocent?
Great answer from the narrator. We are of God. We all have a knowledge of Him. God makes himself known to all in ways according to circumstances of people. He judges their hearts
My understanding, if you want to call it that, is simple. God is all loving and just. Period. So, where is the justice in punishing for all eternity people who, through no fault of their own, never heard of Jesus and His plan for salvation? I think some people just aren't understanding what the Bible is trying to say.
You mention the keyword. Justice for all human beings is to be punished and sent to hell for all eternity. But by the immeasurable grace of God He has sent His Only Begotten Son that whosoever believeth in Him shall not perish but have everlasting life. We have to understand how Holy God is and how evil and sinful we humans are. That is why I am so intensely grateful for Gods gift to us, to me in His Son Jesus Christ my Saviour.
Sending people to hell because they haven’t heard of Jesus would be monstrously unjust….such a God would be without love and be utterly callous.
Many of those who haven’t heard the gospel will be in heaven-if they followed their consciences and tried their best to do good.
The Bible already explains it. It is just that most people never read the bible even if they are Christians. That is a little too weird to me. Jesus mentions the story of Lazandar and a rich man. When the beggar Lazandar dies, he is hell too but in a comforting place where Abraham is while the rich man is in another place of hell where there is a divide. The rich man never got a compassion heart when he was rich on earth and he won't be resurrected but will become the bad fruit.
Christians that follow Christ and free from temptations will be part of the first resurrections.
Non-Christians but kind people will be part of the second resurrection for they believe afterwards.
Forget about the rapture lies because people doesn't want to suffer.
@@keithrogers4170 why would that be unjust? God does not owe us humans anything.
@@edmundsim6251 this is not what the bible says.
The True children of God, are Known and Revealed through their Fruits, and not what the Unstable passing Sands of their Intellects, might think from one moment to the next.
We are children of our parent... Not the god...
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All know God, Jesus, is God! A fool says in their heart their is no God, rejection takes people to hell, Jesus wisdom!
the fool says it in his heart. The wise guy says it out loud.
@@ryeclansen7371yes be the wise guy and tell the world loudly that there is no God not only in texts.
Certainly, there is nothing wrong with asking questions. But the answer isn't necessarily in knowing the actual answer to the question. The answer is understanding the character of God. God of all eternity came as a man through humility, humbled himself, and was obedient to death on the cross. The nature of God is loving, proved by his death. I dont have to have an answer to what happens to the person in the jungle. I know the nature of God, which is merciful and loving and just and his heart is that he doesnt want anyone to perish. Like Abraham said to God regarding Sodom and Gomorrah, "Will not the judge of all the earth do what is right". Nothing wrong with saying, "I dont know, but I do know the character of God and whatever interaction there is between these people and God, He will treat them justly and fairly.
What is the fair and just treatment for everyone who simply doesn't want to exist at all? I didn't choose to exist. If it were possible to somehow turn back time and cancel out my own existence I would do so.
I seek no Heaven. I seek no paradise. Immortality is an abhorrent thought to digest. I simply wish to cease to exist at death.
@@skippy675 Regarding life, certainly it is not fair in many aspects and as a result it can be difficult to live or even want to live. It wasn't fair when my mom left our family for another man when I was a young teen, my youngest brother only 11. It wasn't fair that after 22yrs of being married myself to a person who had been abused in her childhood, that she left me when I've done everything in my limited power to love and to help her overcome her brokenness. Now I am supporting 4 children on my own. Certainly I look at myself and say what have I done wrong and yet all the other women around me are confused as to how she could leave a guy that's raised well rounded model children and protected her and provided for her for 22yrs. She came from a 3rd world country and I helped her become a citizen and in many ways helped her grow into adulthood. It's not fair. But it is life, and while I can't control those around me or even my own circumstances all the time, I can trust God that his promise in Romans 8:28 will come true. And I've even seen glimpses of good that has come through an unfair situation. As a result I speak a language that helps others in similar situations find hope, help & healing.
Job experienced a very familiar feeling as you did where he literally loathed the day he was born. But he also landed on though the Lord slay him yet Job was going to trust in him. Because Job trusted in the Character of God when he couldn't understand what in the world was going on. And the Bible records the end of his life and how God turned it around for him. We can't control our birth but if we are here, then God has a purpose for our lives. He can take the ashes of our lives and make something beautiful from them if we let him. And the fair and just treatment is, if we surrender our lives to the Lord, when we do die, we will experience joy peace and all the pleasurable things we hope for in this life in ways we could have never imagined.
I have a gold fish in a smaller fish bowl than what I prefer, but that's where it is. About every 3 days I have to change out it's water or else it will die from lack of oxygen. The way I do it is, I empty all the water while it's in the fish bowl until it's just in there flopping around. Then I reach in a grab it and put it in a small container of fresh water until I clean and fill the bowl back up again and then put it back in. For a few moments, if that fish could think, by every appearance I am trying to kill it. I am completely putting in an environment without water that would in fact kill it if it were to stay for any length of time. It jumps around for a few seconds and then when it stops, I carefully gently take hold of it and put it in the fresh water. It thinks I'm trying to kill it when in reality, I am actually trying to save it's life. But in order for me to do that, I have to put it in a vulnerable position for a period of time until I can give it fresh water to continue to live.
Life is very often like that. Life can be so difficult that it literally feels like we are dying, or want to die. I just told you about my marriage, and not the few other things equally difficult that are happening at the same time. There have been days where I literally wanted and thought I was dying. I landed in the ER because I thought I was having a heart attack over Christmas, and it was just stress related. Why does God do that to us? To you? Because it's through the difficulty of life where we feel like dying and don't want to live, that if we put our trust in God, He will sustain us and give us eternal life. And through us letting go, he carries us through our trials, and we learn how to find joy and desire to live even in the struggle. That silly fish flops around in the bottom of the jar trying to save itself and I can't grab it. The moment it stops fighting on it's own, is when I can rescue it and get it to where it needs to be which is fresh cool water.
I'm sorry that life has apparently been a complete disappointment for you! I don't know what you are going through, but I certainly had higher aspirations for my life. But I can see the good that has come of it. The maturity that it has brought to my life. The love and selflessness that I've given to my kids to protect them from the harsh reality of a broken family, and now, others seek for me to help them. God can use your circumstances to bring you to a place where you trust him and find out that there is purpose in the pain. Your life has eternal value so much so God died for you and for me, and if you trust God, one day when you meet him, you will realize it was all worth it. Because like you, heaven is not what I seek either. I seek Jesus. Heaven is just a by product of wherever Jesus is.
I've already prayed for you and I hope my humble response helps.
@PBAdventures146 kinda crazy set of coincidences here. I am also married to a woman from a 3rd world country. She was basically abandoned by her parents and raised by a grandparent. We struggled to have kids for quilted a while, finally discovered she had cancer. Went through over a year if treatment via 6 rounds of chemo that almost killed her (kinda the point of chemo) but she ultimately survived stage 4 cancer. Throw in an ectopic pregnancy after that, consults with doctors, more doctors, more doctors and ultimately 5 attempts at IVF which resulted in our 3 children (from anonymous egg donor). Yes, it was grueling for her, even for me. Never thought about leaving her. We racked up so much debt that it's not even funny.
Now, after all of this, she wants to leave me and split up the family because she feels I don't pay enough attention to her. I am literally crushed by the stress of trying to figure out how to keep afloat with all the debt. I haven't gone the route of just give up, become a burden on the taxpayers and forget about it. I think she despises me for not doing what so many do and simply taking advantage of every freebie and handout available.
So yeah, I kind of get it. However, I don't expect fairness nor am I looking for a magical panacea or promise of better things to come. I am just simply exhausted.
I won't give up on my kids or my wife. I think there is value in sticking to it for the kids sake. I think we can fall into the trap of grass is always greener elsewhere.
All this said. It would be so blissful, so perfect, peaceful and so blissful to simply fade out and have that be it.
I see no evidence that there is anything beyond this physical life. At one point I did. I was a Christian missionary when I met my wife. My life was literally dedicated to spreading the good news, the gospel. I used to tell others some of the same things you just told me here in this chat.
How very cruel indeed would it be though for a loving creator to put us here just to pass a credulity test? How very manipulative to design us with senses that give incomplete information, then urge us via text message to "lean not on your own understanding" or whatever (Proverbs I think).
From birth onward, I now see that everything I took in and observed and tested out as my little mind and body developed was to test patterns. To learn who to trust. Scripture tells us to ignore the sum total of all experiences (the ones you were ostensibly designed to process in a certain way) and trust instead in "the promise of things hoped for, the conviction in things yet unseen" or whatever it is.
If this is the test. I fail. I fail without shame or embarrassment or regret because every fiber within me screams that this is a gaslighting scam. If God were really the inspiration of the Bible, would he need to so often sprinkle in words to the effect of "only the fool doesn't believe".
Rambled enough. I understand why people believe. I understand why I and many others don't. If I came to the wrong conclusion, I know that I have done so through honest inquiry and pursuit of truth.
@@skippy675 You and I both know there are no coincidences. Our lives didn't cross by accident. As I read your response, I could feel the sadness and utter discouragement that I've felt so many times. 22yrs of hell on earth feeling like you're always losing no matter how hard you try. Looking in the mirror day after day wondering what I am doing wrong, trying to give my spouse the benefit of the doubt thinking it must be me, only to arrive at the same conclusions. To this day, I can't help but feel like maybe I've done something wrong, even though my piers, those in leadership at my church have walked closely with me and told me that it's not me. Of course it eventually came to a head less than two years ago when she told me she was pregnant with another man's baby. After she wouldn't sleep with me for years. Then she nearly bled to death with a miscarriage, I rushed her to the hospital. Then paid off her emergency bill and racked up more debt. And it still wasn't good enuogh. All the while that is happening, I end up leaving the church I've attended for 25yrs and was a leader in because of some major issues, and going to leave my job of 23yrs because for the last 7 it was hell on earth and I just couldn't handle everything crashing around me at one time... I understand what you mean when you say exhausted... I would roll over in bed in the morning and loath being alive, no desire, terrbily tired, from sleeping on a couch because I let my adulterous wife sleep in our bed. Day after day, just stairing out the car window trying to find some motivation to actually live before I headed off to a job that was nothing but stressful and ugly.
I'm so sorry that you're going through what you are! I write this with tears.. because I know how it feels. I know the pain. I know the hopelessness, I know the uncertainty, especially for the kids. I know the confusion. By no means am I out of the woods even close yet. Work is finally looking up, when I was at my very end, God changed my circumstances in a day. honestly a miraculous story. But still have tons of debt, still have a broken marriage I'm trying to deal with. But God is good. There is nothing I can tell you that you probably don't already know. But maybe just maybe the Lord allowed our paths to cross to help encourage you and remind you of a couple things. First, our journey is a journey of faith. Abraham died "not having received the promise". But he died in faith and has since received what was promised to him. Along the same thought, you and I know we live in a world of sin. And with sin has come every heart ache pain and atrocity that has ravaged this earth. We are not exempt from it's strangle hold on the world. But God uses our pain not as a way to make us worthy of heaven, but to transform us so that we have reward for our faithfulness through trials when we get to heaven. Don't forget the Bible says he can sympathize with our weakness. He was beaten beyond recognition and crucified for us. He bore our grief and carried our sorrows. God is no man's debtor and all of your sorrow will not be forgotten or lost. Your tears, my tears are precious to him and he will not waste or forget a single tear we've shed in our pain. One day he said he will wipe ALL our tears away.
I've seen alot of sorrow in my life apart from what I've even experienced. Right now a very close friend is dying of color cancer, from 192lbs to less than 120.. a wife and 3 kids, one being a baby. He puts my faith to shame. Used to be an alcoholic and nearly lost his marriage. It's not an issue anymore. And his wife has been his biggest fan. I used to counsel them for their marriage.... because of my own experience I had something to offer and he credits me with saving their marriage. It wasn't me, It was Christ in me as I was decreasing through trials and Christ was increasing in influence in me and through me. 2.5yrs ago now, my brother, 5yrs younger than me with a wife and 4 kids dies from a brain tumor that he fought for two years through 2 brain surgeries. Within a year of my brother getting his tumor my "wife's" uncle who we were very close to got the same exact brain tumor and died a year ago. He was just barely a grandpa for the first time. My brother was as involved in church ministry as he could be. He loved the Lord deeply. I watched him lead 27 people to Christ in a single night from one message. He was going places and he had a gift. An amazing voice... and 2yrs later he is dead. He loved the Lord right up to his death. Just a week or so before he died, I worshiped with him and he couldn't even talk, but he tried to grunt out the words as I sang with him. Pain in life is real. I know, and I am sick to my stomach for you, in tears as I write this. But you can't give up on God. He hasn't given up on you and your kids, or your wife and he sees your devotion to your kids and to even her. Trust Him and that will not go on unrewarded in this life and especially the next.
Now I'm the one rambling on and I'm sorry for that, but hopefully I can encourage you alittle bit with this one story. About a month ago, I was with my boss as we were going over some things that were REALLY bad with the company, I was supposed to have owned by now incidentally. I was at the end and was about ready to blow a cork, and he could tell. I told him, I can't do this anymore. There literally didnt' appear to be a glimmer of hope for the company which was my lively hood and how I supported my kids which are my life. I've never struggled with anxiety, but these last 6 months have put me on edge for sure. My trip to the ER thinking I was having a heart attack was actually probably an anxiety attack which I'd never had. But He being a fine Christian man himself said he understood but that all we could do is trust God and he would not leave us or forsake us. At the moment while I knew he was right, the words felt very empty. In less than a week, our whole circumstance had changed from a source we would have NEVER imagined the night we were talking just a few short days earlier. Remember Paul and Silas in a dungeon for trying to preach Gods word as missionaries just like yourself. It was midnight, it was the darkest hour of the night and they were worshiping God...... And suddenly.... God intervened. I'm not God, I'm no prophet, But I do know the Lord can either change your circumstances for you in a second, or, he can give you the grace, strength and wisdom to help you walk out of it. Your race is not over yet, Please don't quite running!! The greatest thing you can do for your kids and wife is for them to see a man trusting God in the midst of impossible odds.
Btw.. My dad was a missionary to the eskimos back in the 80s and 90s. He used to fly the church plane up there and build churches or minister to them. He flew to the last inhabited place on earth in Northern Canada. And his wife left him for another man. But my dad never walked away from God. My one uncle was a missionary to the Philippines and another a missionary to Botswana, Africa and an aunt who was a missionary to Japan and died at 55 from a tumor... as a missionary. I have lots of respect for missionaries such as yourself. If you ever want to talk further I would be more than willing. And I promise you, you will be very much on my mind and I will be praying for you regularly!!
Beloved, the Salvation Gospel of CHRIST must reach the whole World before the End will Fulfilled, Matthew 24:14. The Gospel Was First Preached to the Dead before it gets to us 1 Peter 4:5-6. Beloved, All must be Saved through CHRIST JESUS, outside HIM, No Salvation! Joel 2:32, John 3:16-18.
There are a tiny percentage of people in the world who have never heard of Jesus. But the Bible says that creation is evidence of a creator God. We are also all born with a conscience that God gave us. The bible also says that God chose where and when we would all be born. So He could have put those people who He knew would reject Him in remote tribes for instance. There are missionaries all over the world. There are also few people that don't have access to the internet.
What you are saying is a complete lie. Before the year 1800, a majority of the people on Earth had never heard of Jesus Christ. There is an answer to this question which 99.9% of Christians do not understand because Revelation 20 and verse 5 Ezekiel 37 give the answer. It's called the second Resurrection and it will take place after the millennial reign of Jesus Christ when God will give everyone an opportunity for salvation who wishes to receive it.
@@rexjamerson9316 Really? So how is that many people of different religions have all heard of Jesus but that they think e.g. He is an ascended master, or just a prophet, or one of many gods.
The key word is "choose". It means when you heard of Jesus did you "choose" to follow Him? If you were faced with your greatest temptation will you "choose" God? When you realized you sinned did you "choose" to regret, repent and atone for them?
What a nonsense. How do you follow Jesus when you do not even know him?
Here is the actual answer - God ends the CHURCH ERA, The LAST DAY. When the dead all rise out of their graves. Called the RAPTURE. This day sees DEATH DEFEATED. Its not a partial rising of the dead? ! Thess 4:17, explains. The dead in Christ rise first,then we who are alive and remain are CAUGHT UP. Raptured, to Jesus. We are transformed, as flesh cannot inherit the kingdom of heaven. so WE DISAPPEAR. - we depart. LAST DAY for US. First day for you?
If you are pagan? atheists? satanists? whatever? - you are left on earth.
you lost 2 billion souls? we departed.
But GAIN 20-30 Billions.
all the dead people who never knew JESUS are on earth, the population is trebled? this will cause FAMINE in a few months.
God has given you all a huge headache.
He has massively increased the world population. WHY? so that all men are given the same TEST.
How can God condemn 6 billion people using a MARK? and not include 20-30 billion people? that would be UNFAIR. one test for you? and another test for him?
The churches have not been thinking this through? they have hidden the bible for 1500 years. they killed men for translating it. The false church? has been gate keepers.
They don;'t want this leaked? that the real test comes after the RAPTURE. God has 2 billion Priests-kings-elders now in heaven.
the next INTAKE is different.
Alexander the great is back on earth
Herr Hitler too. so jail him? a lot of criminals are back? warlords? armies? and it will cause havoc .
All men will ask who has raised me back to life in this scientific era? what the hell is a tv? a car? a plane? they will go nuts. and ask who is JESUS? and the 6 billion people native to this time, will have to educate them. Will have to tell them Jesus has caused this mayhem. He raised them back to life.
The bible Hints this - it gives the gaff away - here and there. like puzzle pieces. The DEAD ARE DISCLOSED UPON THE EARTH? and other small phrases.
How are you saved? only by Christ. So Alexander the Great must know Jesus. His army must know Jesus.
How are you damned? Only by taking a MARK? so does Hitler have a mark? no, he died. so must be given that opportunity.
all men are offered this mark? who are left on earth. a binary choice. Satan is doing his job. Testing humanity.
Will Alexander the Great take a mark? only HE KNOWS, with God.
TIME will tell who takes a MARK. who trusts God.
@@paultimson6674 Good luck with your Rupture. It sounds like it has developed into a brain-fistula.
More convoluted apologetics and "it is not for us to know". People don't reject God, they reject the claim made in a book that this god exists, which is an entirely different matter altogether, because there's no other evidence in support, whatever lennox says. Theists somehow never seem to understand this.
@@helpmaboabb if Moses says a man is to die on a cross - then how does that happen? 1500 years later? care to give an explanation? did they invite ROME to come with a cross? did they make ROME? If Moses says that GOD must die? is that not a strange statement. GOD MUST DIE? 1500 years later...
If God knows every person being born into this world, and He also knows that some people won’t hear the Gospel, my question would be why allow those people to be born in the first place??? Maybe I’m overthinking it, but, this whole argument makes it seem as though there are people born into this world outside of God’s knowledge and control, but this can’t be the case, can it???
God created vessels of honor ...... and vessels fit for destruction ....... for the specific purpose of being objects of His wrath .... Romans 9 ..........
@@michaelmichael-ci8hi Tough scripture right there.
Since you able to think critically, I suppose you already know the answer... Just use your common sense you get the answers instantly..
Moses, David and many others never heard about Jesus. What happened to them?
@@michaelmichael-ci8hitaken out of context. 🙄
Lennox missed this one. You cannot take the Son of God out of salvation.
On this day in the civil world people who NEVER HEARD ABOUT JESUS IS because does not want to.
The LORD GODFATHER in Christ LOVED the World and HE can not Let HIS LOVE to Suffer Mercilessly Everlastingly only Perish because of not believing.HE knows what is GOOD to ALL HIS Created Beings both Good and Evil.i believe and always Believe and Keep on Believing that the LORD GODFATHER in Christ will not Allow Any Suffering to Exist as long as HE LIVES From Everlasting to Everlasting.
Do you have to intersperse all that capitalisation because deep down you're actually really unsure of yourself?
@@An_Arbitrary_Miscellany I'm Sure that the LORD GODFATHER in Christ Loves the Soul in Christ in which HE hath Given me.HE Loves me that HE don't want me to be the Heartless and Merciless Hypocrites.HE made me to be Merciful just like the Words of JESUS CHRIST Saying'Bless are the Merciful for They shall obtain Mercy.'GOD Bless and may HIS eternal Goodness be with you Continually Everlastingly.
@@benitogenitojr8122 Thanks, but no thanks.
The Bible says people who have not heard the gospel will receive special consideration.
Please share the Scripture that supports your statement.
God sees the intention, conscience will save or condemn. Romans 2.14
He also has a lot of specific rules about how to butcher a population of humans.
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That's all about free will and it's consequences.
@@angelsordemons Horse apples. Your god in his own stories does not care about free will.
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Galatians 5.13
As a Christian, I find we tippy toe around this question as it is very difficult. If a tribe on an isolated didn’t know Jesus?
"I will dodge the question because to answer it will make me look like an asshole"
Can Odin welcome people to Valhalla who have never heard of him. Isn't the mythology of the Vikings better than the story of the Abrahamic faith. And Abraham, I wonder why he had to sell his wife to the Pharoah, a man of faith who trusted God. Just gets me all confused with this religious business.
People will not have that excuse, God will reveal himself to every human at some point in their life!!!
Choices?do we human have choice😢😢
We have free will.
@@sattaurnikkiWhat makes you think that?
Jesus said himself that he was sent " but, for the lost sheep of Israel."
In other words it is not the fact of not knowing Jesus, that is the issue! .The issue is of not knowing the Last and Final Messenger, Muhammed.
In several places in the Bible, John 16 for example, Jesus foretells the coming of a Warner/ Comforter, after him. Jesus was referring to non other than Prophet Muhammed. peace and blessing be upon them both.
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It frankly surprises me that anyone who has read historical descriptions of Muhammad would refer to him as a "comforter". Maybe he comforted the families of the 600ish people he personally executed or whose prepubescent daughters he married.
I think the simplest answer is that no one is getting a raw deal in this life. God is just. He could not be just if people ended up in Hell because they didn't have enough information at some point in their life.
You’re right, but God has never and will never send anyone to hell because of how much information they have. The Bible says we’re judged according to our deeds. “The wages of sin is death”, “the souls that sins shall surely die”, “God will by no means let the guilty go unfinished”. The only reason anybody ends up in hell is because they’ve sinned against God. Nobody goes to hell unjustly. The fact that the Gospel even exists and there even is a way to be forgiven is pure undeserved grace. God doesn’t owe anybody salvation.
@kaydenjones6616 I agree. Roman's 10:9. I was just making the point that the answer is simple. God is just. Therefore, no one is getting cheated out of an opportunity to spend eternity with Him.
What if someone says no to god because god has hardened their heart ? Then what happens ?
I don't think you can prove Biblically that God hardened anyone's heart who first had not made the choice themselves to harden their own heart. Pharoah would he one of them. Pharoah hardened his heart, and then God hardened it.
@@PBAdventures146 therefore god has mercy on whom he wants to have mercy, and he hardens whom he wants to harden - romans 9:18
@ansmerek no.. God says blessed are the merciful for they shall obtain mercy. Romans 9 was regarding Isreal and the Arab nations. Not God choosing to individually who he will harden and not harden.
@@PBAdventures146 for scripture says to Pharoah I raised you up for this very purpose that I might display my power in you and that my name be proclaimed in all the earth - romans 9:17
Here god explicitly says he made Pharoah for this purpose, that he would harden him. Pharoah did not first decide this god states he was made for this purpose. This means god is in fact able to deny any of us free will
@@PBAdventures146 God knew beforehand what choice they would make; therefore, they did not make this "choice" of their own free will. God made the determination as he does with all souls. You are powerless to change the will of our Almighty God.
All who don't know God or never heard of God in this age or during the OT age or born and die during the Millennium Kingdom will be in the Second Resurrection and they will be judge by Good Works
Should someone just take your word for it?
The countless people who die without knowing Jesus as their Lord and Savior, will obviously have no part in the Kingdom of God. They simply are destroyed by the Creator and never again will live.
Your claiming to know something that you don't, be careful with that. Faith in the Lord.
No body goes to hell simply because they have never heard of Jesus.
To go to hell you have to commit a grave sin without repentance constituting a turn-away from God.
A person cannot self-exclude themselves from God (Jesus) if they have never heard of him.
These people will be judged on the good and the bad they have done in their lives.
John is full of trash, go listen to all his talk n arguments blatantly silly n outrageous..
The problem with that is how do you define good and evil? We have the conscience of the culture we grew up in, an African cannibal is told to kill and eat his enemies, a Christian is taught to love his enemies, Warrier nation is told to be at war, a jihadi believes death on the battle field in the name of Allah is a sure chance to reach heaven, a child born up among thieves learn stealing is good since it provides for the family, in Islam polygamy is good, in Buddhism killing animals is bad, so there is no universal good or bad.
No grave sin can be defined commonly for all people in all nations, that's why you need a law giver and that is what each religion provides for its followers. So, people of one religion would go to Hell for violation of religious beliefs of another religion, to have a logical base.. For eg, if the Bible says, there is salvation only in Christ, then everybody who doesn't come to Christ will end up in hell, whether its their fault or not. The same applies to other abrahamic religions like Quran and Torah. In the case of Hinduism, you need to attain enlightenment, and a release from this constant cycle of reincarnation, just because you havent heard of moksha, you dont get a free pass.
Hell at one time meant grave but morphed into a fiery place of torment as part of the hell fire doctrine. All humans when they die go to their graves and cease to exist. The bible uses Sheol and Hades for mans grave. The Grolier Universal Encyclopedia (1971, Vol. 9, p. 205) under “Hell” says: “Hindus and Buddhists regard hell as a place of spiritual cleansing and final restoration. Islamic tradition considers it as a place of everlasting punishment.” The idea of suffering after death is found among the pagan religious teachings of ancient peoples in Babylon and Egypt. Babylonian and Assyrian beliefs depicted the “nether world . . . as a place full of horrors, . . . presided over by gods and demons of great strength and fierceness.” Although ancient Egyptian religious texts do not teach that the burning of any individual victim would go on forever, they do portray the “Other World” as featuring “pits of fire” for “the damned.”-The Religion of Babylonia and Assyria, by Morris Jastrow, Jr., 1898, p. 581; The Book of the Dead, with introduction by E. Wallis Budge, 1960, pp. 135, 144, 149, 151, 153, 161, 200.
I've had a letter from Peter Popoff !
He wants me to obey God and send him $77.
The Kingdom of Heaven is at hand, so I don't see the point.
Romans 1:18-21 NASB95
For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men who suppress the truth in unrighteousness,
[19] because that which is known about God is evident within them; for God made it evident to them.
[20] For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood through what has been made, so that they are without excuse.
[21] For even though they knew God, they did not honor Him as God or give thanks, but they became futile in their speculations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
In short, the answer is yes. All of creation even to the tribes out in Timbuktu will be held to the same standard. Creation screams there is a Creator
Matthew 7:7-8 NASB95
"Ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you.
[8] For everyone who asks receives, and he who seeks finds, and to him who knocks it will be opened.
#Repent
#HeIsLord
All those who lived and died before Jesus logically couldn't have heard about Jesus. This would included Enoch, Noah, Abraham, Jacob, David and many other God fearing individuals mentioned in the Bible.
Since a person ceases to exist at death, there is no travel to any location for the dead. They have to wait to be brought back into existence by a resurrection. Acts 24:15.
Except Jesus said to the thief on the cross, today you will be with me in paradise. The Bible tells of thr rich man Lazarus and the poor man. And gave explicit details of where they were in relation to their faith in a Messiah.. this was before Christ died.
@@PBAdventures146 :(Ecclesiastes 9:5) For the living know that they will die, but THE DEAD KNOW NOTHING AT ALL, nor do they have any more reward, because all memory of them is forgotten.
Jesus promised that man that he would be in paradise. It couldn't be that very day. Why? Because both were dead and non-existent. God had to bring Jesus back into existence a few days later. Acts 2:32.
Jesus was on back on earth. The earth is still not a paradise. That man was nowhere to be found.
That man will be resurrected as promised at Acts 24:15. When he opens his eyes he will find himself in a paradise earth. That however, is still in the future.
The allegorical story of the Rich man and the Beggar was about TWO LIVING GROUPS. The 'death' was a change in circumstances.
Notice that faith in Jesus is not even mentioned.
Someone stretching his arm from one place to another with a drop of water out of nowhere?
Give it some rational thought.
Ceases to exist? We are all eternal beings going to heaven or hell.
@@DavidBrusman : If humans never die, then what purpose do the resurrections play? Acts 24:15.
Humans don't go anywhere when they die.
(Ecclesiastes 9:5) For the living know that they will die, but the dead know nothing at all,
Satan wants people to believe that life doesn't end at death. Genesis 3:4.
@tongakhan230 All mankind is destined to hell due to our sinful nature. The Resurrection of Christ defeated spiritual death and allowed sinners to be saved from spiritual death, which is hell. Jesus is the Way, the Truth, and the Life. No one comes to the Father except through him.
Choose to believe in ---- Nothing ?? The Natural world ?? Your cultural proclivities?? Man's inhumanity to Man ?? Secular Humanism ?? Moral Relativism ?? Sooo many
Choices ..... Jesus and the teachings are the answer. Choose wisely, or choose your version of living in perpetual confusion, and turmoil.
So those people that get left out of the knwoledge of god, what becomes of them, is it normal not have all people included in the knowledge of him? Seems less significant if thats the case, therefore less credible.
Did you really just ask that question? Can God? Maybe you need to sit back and teach yourself the meaning and sovereigncy of God Almighty the creator of all things! God not only can, but will whenever he wants to,henceforth, GOD!
How do you tell the difference between something your God doesn't want to do, and something your God is unable to do?
The truth that the Almighty will torment a person for eternity because they don't accept his way is absolute rubbish,the Holy Scriptures state each day of creation for all six days and he states it was good can anyone please educate me on what day he created a hell because I do not see it there
Yes. Correct.
*The Enuma Elish would later be the inspiration for the Hebrew scribes who created the text now known as the biblical Book of Genesis.* Prior to the 19th century CE, the Bible was considered the oldest book in the world and its narratives were thought to be completely original. In the mid-19th century CE, however, European museums, as well as academic and religious institutions, sponsored excavations in Mesopotamia to find physical evidence for historical corroboration of the stories in the Bible. ***These excavations found quite the opposite, however, in that, once cuneiform was translated, it was understood that a number of biblical narratives were Mesopotamian in origin.***
*Famous stories such as the Fall of Man and the Great Flood were originally conceived and written down in Sumer,* translated and modified later in Babylon, and reworked by the Assyrians ***before they were used by the Hebrew scribes for the versions which appear in the Bible.***
***In revising the Mesopotamian creation story for their own ends, the Hebrew scribes tightened the narrative and the focus but retained the concept of the all-powerful deity who brings order from chaos.*** Marduk, in the Enuma Elish, establishes the recognizable order of the world - *just as God does in the Genesis tale* - and human beings are expected to recognize this great gift and honor the deity through service.
*"Enuma Elish - The Babylonian Epic of Creation - Full Text - World History Encyclopedia"*
*"Sumerian Is the World's Oldest Written Language | ProLingo"*
*"Sumerian Civilization: Inventing the Future - World History Encyclopedia"*
("The Sumerians were the people of southern Mesopotamia whose civilization flourished between c. 4100-1750 BCE."
"Ancient Israelites and their origins date back to 1800-1200 BCE.")
*"The Myth of Adapa - World History Encyclopedia"*
Also discussed by Professor Christine Hayes at Yale University in her 1st lecture of the series on the Hebrew Bible from 8:50 to 14:30 minutes, lecture 3 from 28:30 to 41:35 minutes, lecture 4 from 0:00 up to 21:30 minutes and 24:00 up to 35:30 minutes and lecture 7 from 24:20 to 25:10 minutes.
From a Biblical scholar:
"Many stories in the ancient world have their origins in other stories and were borrowed and modified from other or earlier peoples. *For instance, many of the stories now preserved in the Bible are* ***modified*** *versions of stories that existed in the cultures and traditions of Israel’s* ***older*** *contemporaries.* Stories about the creation of the universe, a cataclysmic universal flood, digging wells as land markers, the naming of important cultic sites, gods giving laws to their people, and even stories about gods decreeing the possession of land to their people were all part of the cultural and literary matrix of the ancient Near East. *Biblical scribes freely* ***adopted and modified*** *these stories as a means to express their own identity, origins, and customs."*
*"Stories from the Bible"* by Dr Steven DiMattei, from his website *"Biblical Contradictions"*
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In addition, look up the below articles.
*"Yahweh was just an ancient Canaanite god. We have been deceived! - Escaping Christian Fundamentalism"*
*"Debunking the Devil - Michael A. Sherlock (Author)"*
*"The Greatest Trick Religion Ever Pulled: Convincing Us That Satan Exists | Atheomedy"*
*"Zoroastrianism And Persian Mythology: The Foundation Of Belief"*
(Scroll to the last section: Zoroastrianism is the Foundation of Western Belief)
*"10 Ways The Bible Was Influenced By Other Religions - Listverse"*
*"January | 2014 | Atheomedy"* - Where the Hell Did the Idea of Hell Come From?
*"Retired bishop explains the reason why the Church invented "Hell" - Ideapod"*
Watch *"The Origins of Salvation, Judgement and Hell"* by Derreck Bennett at Atheologica
(Sensitive theists should only watch from 7:00 to 17:30 minutes as evangelical Christians are lambasted. He's a former theist and has been studying the scholarship and comparative religions for over 15 years)
*"Top Ten Reasons Noah’s Flood is Mythology - The Sensuous Curmudgeon"*
*"Forget about Noah's Ark; There Was No Worldwide Flood | Bible Interp"*
*"The Search for Noah’s Flood - Biblical Archaeology Society"*
*"Eridu Genesis - World History Encyclopedia"*
*"The Atrahasis Epic: The Great Flood & the Meaning of Suffering - World History Encyclopedia"*
Watch *"How Aron Ra Debunks Noah's Flood"*
(8 part series debunking Noah's flood using multiple branches of science)
*"The Adam and Eve myth - News24"*
*"Before Adam and Eve - Psychology Today"*
*"Gilgamesh vs. Noah - Wordpress"*
*"Old Testament Tales Were Stolen From Other Cultures - Griffin"*
*"Parallelism between “The Hymn to Aten” and Psalm 104 - Project Augustine"*
*"Studying the Bible"* - by Dr Steven DiMattei
(This particular article from a critical Biblical scholar highlights how the authors of the Hebrew Bible used their *fictional* god as a mouthpiece for their own views and ideologies)
*"How do we know that the biblical writers were* ***not*** *writing history?"* -- by Dr Steven DiMattei
*"Contradictions in the Bible | Identified verse by verse and explained using the most up-to-date scholarly information about the Bible, its texts, and the men who wrote them"* -- by Dr. Steven DiMattei
On the one hand, I can certainly see how the passages John cites here could be interpreted to support his points. On the other hand, I can't help but notice that he completely ignored that part of the bible that tells us there is no way to god but through christ. This does not seem open to interpretation in my view and it's disingenuous for someone of John's learning not to bring it up. Also, if there is a truly omniscient god (I'm agnostic) then everything is predetermined and we do not have free will only an illusion of free will and god has decided who goes to heaven and who goes to hell so, in fact, it is god sending people one way or the other. I would like to believe and have faith in christ, unfortunately those that speak for god don't do a very good job of it.
you will hate this answer. God raises all the dead to life at the rapture. The christian dead disappear in a flash. the dead all are disclosed. upon the earth. so if you calculate? it might be 20-30 billion people are going to arrive on earth. all the dead. see isaiah 26.18. - so we are gone. the population actually goes up. a trebling. in a few months, food shortages worldwide. Try feeding 20-30 billion people. Now who died ? say you are Genghis Khan? you will ask - who has raised me back to life on earth? and people will say - its the rapture. we thought it was made up? but Jesus actually did it. Ghengis can read a bible. Or get one of his men to read it. He gets to know Jesus. Maybe watches tv-movies. there is a vast amount of media. So now all pagans-atheists-etc. can be offered a choice. Jesus or Satan. take a mark?
Revelation 14-9 states that only if you take a MARK can you be damned. So has Ghengis a mark? he died centuries ago? nope. But if he is restored , he has a choice. He has a small amount of time to know JESUS - God.
does the bible suppot my mad theory? yes, scripture supports it. its not supported by mainstream church commentaries. they are all in tune, with Catholic viewpoints formed over centuries.
So why do people hate it? It gives people like Hitler a second chance? But i doubt Hitler is going to accept Christ. Power mad dictators are not going to like Jesus.
God reaches every man.
We are chosen out of many. selected. while the rest are shown mercy. God is revealed to all men. FULL DISCLOSURE. PROOF is given to them. We only had faith.
so now all men, get the full facts. They know death is defeated. they know God is JEsus. But do they want Jesus. They want DEATH? that is what they all want. They like wars. They like sin. they do not want God? a few will choose Jesus. the majority want life on earth. Each man is given the same test. WIll you take a MARK? O. oo. Will you place it on your head. and so God's judgement is simplified. He merely looks at their heads. GUILTY. anyone that says no mark? gets killed. SO all those that took a mark abandon Jesus. They serve Satan. They sign up to the last world empire.
Jesus is real. Making Him your Lord and Saviour will be the best thing you ever did.
Jesus was the God of the OT. Abraham had an intimate relationship with Him. These answers are all in the Bible. Those who have never heard of Jesus will be resurrected in the second resurrection just like those who had heard of Jesus and were never converted, which is the overwhelming majority of humans to ever have breathed life on earth(Ezekiel 37, Revelation 20). Today is the Church age only. The Church is resurrected in the first resurrection. Next in time sequence is obviously the second resurrection mentioned above. The third resurrection is the resurrection to eternal death via the lake of fire.
You think Abraham actually existed?
Invest on a good psychologist rather than drowning your problems into religion that's not good for you
You need to back up the scriptures
John is so extremely funny, wonder how Christian can simply agree his logics
It's a useless debate, God is righteous, that alone should cover all your questions, that means no matter what he does he's always right, and nothing you can do about it.was God able to make Judas an apostle, no, that alone shows God can't make you choose, he chose for Judas and it failed,.
1. Every person who is born have the knowledge of good and eviil; because Adam and Eve disobeyed Gods commandment not to eat read Gen 2 Gen 3:
2.. Rom 2 : 14 For when Gentiles, who do not have the law, by nature do what the law requires, they are a law to themselves, even though they do not have the law. They show that the work of the law is written on their hearts, while their conscience also bears witness, and their conflicting thoughts accuse or even excuse them on that day when, according to my gospel, God judges the secrets of men by Christ Jesus.
3. Lord God commands to believe in Lord Jesus Christ to be Saved from sin (To receive Grace to stop doing evil Titus 2: 11-15
John 3: 16 - 21
Do you think Adam and Eve actually existed?
@@drewdrake9130 Sure why not? I believe all that is written in the Bible because God Holy Spirit thought me! Though it took me long to discover that wolf existed inside church with sheeps clothing to mislead! Also the church is full of error in its teachings!
when I discover I was shocked... because I know for fact (experience) Lord God tolerates sin commited unkowingly but with sin knowingly commited gets no mercy! My question to you when did you discover good and evil ? Repent Lord Jesus Saves from eternal death!
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People believe all sorts of stuff.
Do you have anything besides your belief, as a reason for the existence of Adam and Eve?
@@drewdrake9130 I shared what I've discovered and practice! Which I think you should be thanful for because it can save your soul! My question to you, what do you have? to be frank you sound as if you are teasing! ??
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Was that a -No - to my simple question?
A Hypothetical
Dmboola is a native African pygmy from the region now called the Republic of Congo, the year is 200BC. Dmboola is married according to native culture and tradition and has a family. Occasionally he has lustful thoughts about his neighbor's young wife but does not progress those feelings into actions because of tribal taboos and laws, the tribe has their own Gods and Demons
After his death Dmboola is brought up before a Middle Eastern God who tells him he must burn in Hell and be tortured for eternity for breaking a commandment he has never heard of, written by a God he has never heard of and who tells him that he loves him, He is a little confused.
and so it will be for all atheists ...... and even for those who have heard of Christ but were not saved by Christ ...........
so ...............
Fortunately, that is not how Dmboola's afterlife plays out. He, in fact, gets to meet his maker, who heals Dmboola of all his genetic and cultivated propensities to selfish behavior. (Basically, every human being is suffering from mental, emotional, and spiritual damage from traumas experienced in their lives, especially as children.) Once healed in this manner and given all the necessary information, Dmboola bends the knee and acknowledges that God is truly a God of love and can be trusted. God welcomes Dmboola into paradise. Thus will be the fate of all who die in this life without knowing the God of Love of the Bible. (Eternal conscious torment is a lie of the devil. You can ignore anyone who says otherwise.)
@@cklester Dmboola is just a fairey tale ..... and not in scripture .......... so who cares ................
but Christ tormenting them IS in scripture ..........
Revelation 14:9-11
9 Then another angel, a third one, followed them, saying with a loud voice, “If anyone worships the beast and his image, and receives a mark on his forehead or on his hand, 10 and he also will drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is mixed [a]in full strength in the cup of His rage, and he will be tormented with fire and [b]brimstone in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb. 11 And the smoke of their torment goes up forever and ever; they have no rest day and night, those who worship the beast and his image, and [c]whoever receives the mark of his name.”
@michaelmichael-ci8hi Check your translation. You are making mountains out of molehills from bad translations.
@@cklester OK, that means if you follow all the traditional laws and customs of your Native tribe which includes murder of opposing tribes, headhunting and cannibalism you will get to Heaven as long as you've never heard of the invisible guy in the sky, meanwhile other tribespeople who have heard of your God but continue in their Native traditions won't be given that opportunity and will suffer the fiery torture pit for eternity.
Where is the love and compassion in that?
Dr lennox would god torture people in hell would you
God puts life and death before people not eternal torment
Why would you people put this man in front of God so that you can be led askew? This man is seeking his own glory, not the Glory of the Lord, trying to get you to buy into his world contaminations.
He shall be worst punished by the Lord for seeking to use the word to bring about his own Glory.
Does Jesus not tell you that life is more than clothing?
Does Jesus not you to put no man in front of God?
I will judge you because that is what you need for correction.
This is how I serve you.
Before I wach this i would like to answer the question... You send yourself to Hell because God rights it on there hearts. God doesn't want anyone to go to Hell. There's lot's more of course. Have a blessed day.
1 Its completely crazy to assume that if you fuck up this life that on ytop you get punished forever in the next.
2 God never gave us any morals (bible and quran are man-made) so based on what morals we get judged?
3 What did people 6000 years ago do when YHWH was not yet invented?
A still small voice
I'd ask the question of why Jesus said conflicting things like "truly I say to you, whoever does not become like a little child will never enter the kingdom of heaven" if all that is required to enter heaven is believe in God and salvation through Jesus's sacrifice.
Also, why exactly are people listening to a mathematician speak about Christianity and the bible?
The mathematician is a believer who knows the Bible.
Also Jesus isn't saying anything conflicting, he's saying to depend on Him like children trust and depend on their parents
@@nickthe8502 where did you get that interpretation from? I don't think Jesus would be saying "whoever has blind faith is the greatest among those in heaven." That only suits the narrative of the church that people blindly believe and don't ask questions or doubt what they're being told.
Also, I'm wondering why people are listening to the guy. Is it because he's really smart and believes in God so the things he says basically feeds listener's confirmation bias?
If you don't believe in Robin Hood you will never be allowed to wear green again 😂🤣😂
According to the general consensus of scholarship *(even critical Christian scholars),* YHWH was originally incorporated into the Canaanite pantheon as a son of the Canaanite high god El before inheriting the top spot in the pantheon and El's wife Athirat (Asherah) before religious reforms "divorced" them. El's pantheon in Ugarit (modern day Ras Shamra in Syria) is called the *Elohim,* literally the plural of El. Interestingly, the Biblical god is also referred to numerous times as Elohim. If you want to see if El is fictional, just read his mythology in the Ugaritic/Canaanite texts.
"The mysterious Ugaritic text Shachar and Shalim tells how (perhaps near the beginning of all things) *El* came to shores of the sea and saw two women who bobbed up and down. *El* was sexually aroused and took the two with him, killed a bird by throwing a staff at it, and roasted it over a fire. He asked the women to tell him when the bird was fully cooked, and to then address him either as husband or as father, for he would thenceforward behave to them as they called him. They saluted him as husband. He then lay with them, and they gave birth to Shachar ("Dawn") and Shalim ("Dusk"). Again *El* lay with his wives and the wives gave birth to "the gracious gods", "cleavers of the sea", "children of the sea". The names of these wives are not explicitly provided, but some confusing rubrics at the beginning of the account mention the goddess *Athirat (Asherah),* who is otherwise *El's* chief wife, and the goddess Raḥmayyu ("the one of the womb"), otherwise unknown."
*"First, a god named El predates the arrival of the Israelites into Syria-Palestine.* Biblical usage shows El was not just a generic noun, but often a proper name for Israel’s God (e.g., Gen 33:20: “El, the God of Israel”)."
"I should add here that it is very clear from the grammar that the noun nachalah in v. 9 should be translated “inheritance.” *Yahweh receives Israel as his “inheritance” (nachalah), just as the other sons of El received their nations as their inheritance (nachal, v. 8).* With this verb, especially in the Hiphil, the object is always what is being given as an inheritance. Thus, Israel is given to Yahweh as his inheritance. ((Here I’m indebted to Dan McClellan.)) It would make no sense for Elyon to give himself an inheritance. Moreover, as I’ve argued elsewhere, it is not just the Gentile nations that are divided up according to the number of the *sons of El.* It is all of humankind, i.e., “the sons of Adam.” This clearly includes Israel. And the sons of Adam are not divided up according to the number of the *sons of El,* plus one (i.e., plus Elyon). They are divided up, according to the text, *solely* according to the number of the *sons of El.* *Thus, that Yahweh receives Israel as his inheritance makes Yahweh one of the sons of El mentioned in v. 8. Any other construal of the text would constitute its rewriting.*
A Sumerian hymn speaks to the goddess: “Nanshe, your divine powers are not matched by any other divine powers.” *Does this mean that Nanshe was the high goddess, that there were no gods above her? No, it does not.* Nanshe was the daughter of Enki, the high god. *In Sumerian mythology, as with Ugaritic, Israelite, Babylonian, and others, in the ancient past, the high god (Enki, in this case) divided up the world and assigned his children certain domains.* Nanshe was given a limited domain (the modern Persian Gulf) and was tasked with maintaining social justice there. *This is exactly what we see in Deuteronomy 32 with Yahweh. Yahweh is given a limited domain (Israel) and is given authority over his people, to punish them, as well as to protect and defend them against foreign enemies.* That Yahweh, like Nanshe, is said to have incomparable divine power *does not* mean that he is not subordinate to the high god who gave him his domain. *It is also of note that Nanshe, like Baal, Yahweh, and so many other deities, evolved over time. Her domain increased, and she was promoted in the pantheon (although she never became the high goddess)."*
*"The Most Heiser: Yahweh and Elyon in Psalm 82 and Deuteronomy 32 - Religion at the Margins"* based on the *majority scholarly consensus.*
(Written by Thom Stark who is a Christian)
*"Michael Heiser: A Unique Species? - Religion at the Margins"*
(A second response to Michael Heiser)
*"Excerpt from “Yahweh and the Gods and Goddesses of Canaan” by John Day - Lehi's Library."*
*"The Table of Nations: The Geography of the World in Genesis 10"* - TheTorah.com
(Excluding the short narrative on Nimrod (vv. 8-12), *which appears to be a later addition,* Genesis 10 contains *70* names of nations or cities, a number that was symbolic of totality. Similarly, the descendants of Jacob were *70* in number (Gen 46:37; Exod 1:5), *as were the sons of the supreme Canaanite god El, with whom YHWH became equated.)*
*"Polytheism and Ancient Israel’s Canaanite Heritage. Part V | theyellowdart"*
(Of course, much of this [i.e., that Israel worshiped El and Asherah alongside YHWH] is really to be expected given that recent syntheses of the *archaeological, cultural, and literary data* pertaining to the emergence of the nation of Israel in the Levant *show that most of the people who would eventually compose this group were originally Canaanite. As the Hebrew Bible notes, the Hebrew language itself is a Canaanite language, literally the “lip of Canaan” (שְׂפַת כְּנַעַן; Is. **19:18**), and so it cannot often be distinguished by modern scholars from other Canaanite inscriptions on purely linguistic grounds.)*
*"Ugarit - New World Encyclopedia"*
(Ugaritic religion centered on the chief god, Ilu or El, whose titles included "Father of mankind" and "Creator of the creation." The Court of El was referred to as the (plural) 'lhm or ***Elohim,*** a word ***later used by the biblical writers to describe the Hebrew deity*** and translated into English as "God," in the singular.
El, which was ***also the name of the God of Abraham,*** was described as an aged deity with white hair, seated on a throne.)
*"Mark Smith: Yahweh as El’s Son & Yahweh’s Ascendency - Lehi's Library"*
(Mark Smith is a Catholic)
*"God, Gods, and Sons (and Daughters) of God in the Hebrew Bible. Part III | theyellowdart"*
*"02 | December | 2009 | Daniel O. McClellan - Psalm 82"*
(Daniel McClellan is a Mormon)
*"Elohim | Daniel O. McClellan"*
(Refer to the article "Angels and Demons (and Michael Heiser)")
*"God's Wife Edited Out of the Bible - Almost."*
(Pay attention to whose wife Asherah (Athirat) is in the Ugaritic/Canaanite texts and how she became the wife of YHWH/Yahweh)
*"Yahweh's Divorce from the Goddess Asherah in the Garden of Eden - Mythology Matters."*
*"Asherah, God's Wife in Ancient Israel. Part IV - theyellowdart"*
*"The Gates of Ishtar - El, was the original god of the bible."*
*"The Gates of Ishtar - Anath in the Elephantine Papyri"*
(In addition to Asherah (Athirat) being the consort of Yahweh, it appears some Israelites also viewed the Canaanite goddess Anat(h) as Yahweh's consort)
*"Canaanite Religion - New World Encyclopedia"*
(Refer to the section "Relationship to Biblical Religion")
*"The Syncretization of Yahweh and El : reddit/AcademicBiblical"*
(For a good summary of all of the above articles)
Watch Professor Christine Hayes who lectures on the Hebrew Bible at Yale University. Watch lecture 2 from 40:40 to 41:50 minutes, lecture 7 from 30:00 minutes onwards, lecture 8 from 12:00 to 17:30 minutes and lecture 12 from 27:40 minutes onwards.
Watch *"Pagan Origins of Judaism"* by Sigalius Myricantur and read the description in the video to see the scholarship the video is based on.
Watch *"How Monotheism Evolved"* by Sigalius Myricantur and watch up to at least 21:40.
Watch *"Atheism - A History of God (The Polytheistic Origins of Christianity and Judaism)"*
(By a former theist)
Watch *"The Origins of Yahweh"* by Derreck Bennett at Atheologica.
it is wicked when your god runs a torture garden shed and the fans thinks is perfectly normal and acceptable.These are sick people and should be sued for spreading malicious threats to vulnerable people...amen
Has Lennox ever answered a straightforward question with a straightforward answer...NO NEVER.
Let him who has ears hear...
@@padraigcostello8499 Very intelligent thing to say. What about let him who has a nose smell.
John Lennox has a great way of explaining theology;
Your question is answered quite easily if you were to watch through his debates or some of his statements.
@@tedoneil7464 I think if you were more demanding of truth you would not be happy with his suppositional word salads... If he has ever provided evidence for any of his statements I would like to hear just one. Please let me know.
@@dongee1664 That is quite a flamboyant selection of words you have chose;
Obviously yes Mr Lennox does not hide his beliefs;
I would have to ask what kind of evidence are you asking for?
No, it doesn’t exist.
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Let us rephrase the question then: Would God allow any of his beloved, precious children to choose to die in hell? (Would any human father allow his child to commit suicide, or would that father choose therapy and healing for the child to restore them to his/her right mind?)
Rom 8:14 LOGOS For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, these are sons of God.
His children will NOT die in hell.
all are His creation ...... but not all are His children ................ to be a child of God requires adoption ......... an adoption that is reserved for the elect ........ so no child of God will be in hell .........
bible explains two seeds. Satan has children too. People today play with Satan, satanic sites, witchcraft sites. and its not bewitched? its curses? it opening a vein? its making dolls with all sorts of fluids. SO the average consumer, in the street is not aware of such antics. and all they want is work-money-drugs-holidays. they never once say.. what does Jesus want? Maybe God is lonely? its always what can i get?
God understands the human mind, thankfully. He will wake everyone up at the rapture.
@@SupremeSkepticSo if your child disobeys you they aren’t your child anymore?
@@michaelmichael-ci8hiSo if your child disobeys you then you disown them?
That was Jordan Peterson levels of word salad.
Whenever they don’t answer the question right off the bat then you’re dealing with a Christian apologist
Are apologists those who make excuses for their beliefs?
@@tongakhan230
No apologists are people who make excuses for, contradictions, chattel slavery, genocide, baby killers, and other immoral events in the holy Bible
the least sophisticated apologist has more horse sense than the most unsophisticated anti christian because the bible always supports sophistication
@@bwoutchannel6356 whatever you say Skippy
From the number of NDEs, I have seen these people who die and don't know christ, they dont go to hell when their soul dos leave their bodies, if they don't know christ, they have nowhere to go. They just stay on the earth, then eventually, another unrighteous spirit will cause them pain. Eventually, they will become an unrighteous spirit .😮
No-I’ve read about countless NDEs where unbelievers are saved by Jesus after they die.
What a confused morality.
If the world is a better place for you and you have a wonderful character but don't believe in the divinity of Jesus, you are condemned. That is the immorality of Christian belief.
The belief that God came to earth only in the form of Jesus is very narrow minded. He took many forms before that and the very prominent ones are that of Rama and Krishna to mention a couple. He came even before that many times and left behind wisdom and guidance for the path to salvation. To answer the question about non-believers or agnostics - then they are subject to the action / reqction system which in the east is known as the Karma system. Those who do good are rewarded as per their deeds as are those subject to punishments for their evil. God stands only as the witness like the sun in the sky oversees both theft and kindness from above. Those seeking God get to develop a relation with him and are the shown the path. Please stop limiting this knowledge only to Jesus.🙏
Ignorance is bliss!
Message of all prophets, Adam, Noha, Abraham, Moses, Jesus and Mohammad is same,, worship creator alone,, do good be away from bad deeds,, there is life after death good ones are awarded and bad ones are punished.
God never comes in human form.
God comes in human form is called Avatar in Hinduism.
God and son cannot be killed.
Jesus never said I am God, worship me.
It appear that Jesus never claims to be God, but even a cursory reading of the Old and New Testament make it plain what he did claim and do:
Jesus said, "Before Abraham was born, I AM" (Yahweh)." The Divine name applied to himself. The Jews tried to kill him for blasphemy as a result. They would only do this if they heard him claim to be God. So here at least he does in fact claim to be God.
Jesus accepted worship from his Disciple Thomas who said to Christ, "My Lord and My God." after the resurrection. Everywhere else in the Bible, a human who receives or claims divine worship is immediately punished by death. See what happened to King Herod after giving a speech in the Gospels and the people exclaimed, "This is the voice of a god!"
Jesus reputedly refers to himself as the "Son of Man", a phrase from the prophet Daniel referring to God himself.
Jesus shows supernatural power over the storms, which the Old Testament credits to God alone.
Jesus forgives sins, which both the Old Testament and New Testament teach belongs to God alone, until AFTER Jesus gives the right to his apostles and the church to forgive sins.
Jesus taught the moral law with authority over it, by saying, "The Son of Man is Lord of the Sabbath." No one but God can claim to be Lord of God's holy day. He also taught that Thou shalt no murder meant also you shall not hate and that Thou shalt not commit adultery means you shall not lust. Only God can teach his moral law with such authority.
And finally, and probably most clearly, only God can satisfy God's wrath against all the sins of humanity. No human can do it. No angel can do it. No one can stand in front of God and satisfy God's justice, except for God himself. Thus, we see the Triune God: Father, Son, and Holy Spirit - One God, with Three Persons. God the Judge; Christ the Redeemer; The Spirit the Sanctifier and Counselor. Christianity is God taking on God's wrath in place of humanity and offering the free gift of Eternal Life to all who put their trust in him.
Yes, Jesus Christ is God. He claims it. He accepts it. He give his life as a gift for you, and he takes his life up again to reign in glory. Repent of your sins and accept his free gift of Grace. It is yours as much as it is mine, unless you refuse it.
In religion super natural power is called as miracles, some miracles had been given to prophet Jesus by God, even Moses too had shown some miracles.
You didn't give evidence for these understanding. Thank you.
that view is not the christian view ............ sorry .......... there is salvation in only one name ..... Christ Jesus and no other ....... and mere knowledge of the name is not salvific ..... nor is just doing good as unregenerate man is not capable of doing good in the sight of God .............
@@sidwhiting665 that is a claim of deity .................
Any evidence from Bible?
You don't need eyes to see god because it's all imaginary .
I bet the person you are referring to has never heard of Jesus, Afterall when he was with his Companions they did not refer to him as Jesus, please look up Yeshua could probably be the name, the angle Gabriel would not have Informed Mary and Joseph to name their Child Jesus, so Jesus is a name made up by the Catholic Church and have been misleading everyone since.
Be shameful to talk about things that you don't know. Just say you don't know and try finding the answers instead of trying to come up with your own answers....
I'm stupified, again and again, by the way seemingly intelligent people believe in these fairytales. Blind people don't see things that are there. People of faith with 20/20 vision see things that aren't there. And there is nothing, really nothing, that could change their minds. They've stopped thinking. Show me, an atheist, just one piece of evidence of the existence of god (any god will do) and I'll change my mind immediately.
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Look outside your window at trees, plants, different nationalities of people, animals, wildlife. But you are judging those with a Biblical view on life just as you are blinded to think all these things came from a single explosion ie big bang that evolved into millions of different plants, peoples, animals.... make that make sense
The person who rejects peace and joy in paradise forever is obviously out of their mind! They cannot be held responsible for any decisions made while in such a delirious state. Even our own justice system allows a "not guilty by reason of insanity" plea. Are we more loving and compassionate than God? Jesus came not to condemn but to save. God sent Him to be Savior of the world. Did He succeed or did He fail in that mission? The Bible says, "Love never fails," and that, "God is love." So, God never fails! My contention is, Jesus succeeded in saving the world. One day, every knee shall bow and tongue gladly confess, and will then enjoy their lives experiencing peace and joy forever in paradise. It's just a matter of timing.
I wonder why they don't ask him any hard questions Like why does God give cancer to kids God made cancer that specifically targets children
God doesn't "give cancer to kids." We have free will and we live in a world of chance. That's the only way to have free will. Without the possibility of the worst tragedy, we can't know absolute joy. Or anything in-between.
@@BobbyDillon-ug5te Oh so you are saying the Bible is wrong when it says God created everything Everything would include cancer
God does not "cause cancer", but he does allow it. Big difference.
I respectfully clarify one thing Bobby Dillon said....
Free will is not responsible for sin. Rather, it introduced the potential for sin. Also, a person absolutely can know joy without tragedy. Adam and Eve knew no sin, and their joy was complete. But in pride they were tempted and fell into sin. We will know joy in heaven absent any tragedy, and the person who dies of old age surrounded by family and friends won't have any less joy than a person who dies at the hands of a cruel sadistic murderer. Complete joy is for all who trust in the name of Jesus Christ!
It is sin that cause a fallen world, which is what brought death into it. Death includes all forms of cancers and other diseases, as well as violence, "old age" and so on. As the Bible teaches, "The wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life."
My comfort is that God redeemed mankind from this fallen world. Everyone will die of something, someday. But those who die with faith, hope, and trust in Christ will be reborn in Eternity and will never die again or suffer the pains of this world. That gift is for everyone: you, me, and Bobby. Don't reject it.
@@BobbyDillon-ug5te So what you are saying is the Bible is wrong when it Said god created everything Because cancer would be included in everythingLucimia is a cancer that pacifically targets children
1 Its completely crazy to assume that if you fuck up this life that on ytop you get punished forever in the next.
2 God never gave us any morals (bible and quran are man-made, no evidence for any supernatural character or happening in it) so based on what morals we get judged?
3 What did people 6000 years ago do when YHWH was not yet invented?
Who cares ,, it’s the same as asking will I go to hogworts if I don’t know about Harry Potter . .
Pratt!
God cares. People dont have to care whether you go to hell, hogworts or Timbuktu.
A cult leader, Jesus. Without Jesus Christ, maybe another cult with his name on it.
What did he say? It’s all bull shit
Many people who have heard of Jesus will go to hell😂😂
You will not be laughing if you find yourself there after you die.
God has provided a Way out of the mess we are in , it required the shedding of blood and a cruel death on a Roman cross.
It is by the Grace of God, through faith in the work Christ Jesus did for us, to all that believe.
You have an immortal soul, we all do.
It is either HEAVEN or HELL for all eternity.
Choose Christ. Judgement is looming.
@@StevieB-g4e I will take your advice seriously. No more jokes. Im an addict of cigarettes. Cant stop smoking, but I have to quit somehow.
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Hahahaha
Listen to those apologist bull shit!
Haha such bs
Nothing of christ or jesus? Now we have two jesus?