The 5 WORST Things About the CSL DD!!!
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- Опубліковано 20 лип 2024
- Make sure and check out my review of the CSL DD and the 5 best things about it!
Review:
• The REAL CSL DD Review!
5 best:
• 5 Things CSL DD Does B...
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Outro 4:17 - Ігри
Best review over all hands down🤘
Thank you so much! We will bring some positive comments about the csl DD to the chat in tomorrow's vid! :)
Absolutely agree
Yeah all great points I've not heard in any other videos
Thanks pally! I tried my best to think about some things I hadn't heard. :)
Thank you!
If those are the 5 worst things about the CSL DD, it is actually a very good wheelbase!
My point exactly! ;)
@@DouglasThompson probably should have mentioned it :)
@@D4RKFiB3R it’s common sense so he didn’t need to
@@AlexJones-yr5pc To you, perhaps. After hearing the name CSL DD, this is the very first video I watched about it.
all this tells me is there's not really any bad points of this wheel
And that was my point. It's a great wheelbase!
Point 3…!
@@therookiemistake9714 he literally said it's not something that's noticeable when driving and what else am I gonna be doing with it
@@williammememan6002 for 500-800 dollar it could be better. More on YT about this problem
Man I appreciate honest, straight up folk like you. Cheers brother
Thanks man! I will continue on my path! ;)
Man I just stumbled upon a few of your videos and immediately hooked. Instantly subscribed!
Thanks a ton man! I hope I can provide tons of entertainment and info for you!
Well presented list of annoyances mate. No hand waving or screeching - just straight delivery. Rare authenticity.
Thank you very much!
Hi! I agree completely with your 5 points.
Could you tell how much force you need for going beyond the steerlock? My 8nm version is turnable with one hand only...and it looks to weak to me.
I would say 8.1 NM ;) lol
It's not very strong. It is never really an issue, I have been using a Simagic Alpha mini and more recently a Cammus 15nm DD wheelbase and I thought if I went back I would feel the inferior performance of the csldd but honestly I could be happy using it as a forever base even after experiencing a DD1/Cammus/alpha mini. :)
Since I won't have to deal with mounting my own CSL DD until at least January(!), I don't have first-hand experience with the T-nuts, but I believe that the best way to mount it is to mount the T-nuts loosely on the mounting plate and then slide the CSL DD base on to the loose nuts. Then you tighten them. I've seen this method used in various videos, including one from the Fatatec channel. I think it is even better than spring loaded T-nuts because you don't need to try to place the nuts exactly in the CSL DD and then line it up on the plate.
I realized this after I made this video...I even made a mention of it in past videos on that method being easier to mount your gear with...I think it still would be better to have included spring loaded t-nuts but it was never a huge issue to begin with just one of those cheap out moments I see Fanatec taking part in often.
That's what I did. Put the T-nuts on the wheel stand then slide the base. Was so much easier than the 20 seconds trying to put them on the base first
Can you provide a link or more information about suitable spring loaded T-Nuts? I contacted Fanatec support and they stated M6x8mm, however, there are different series such as 20, 30, 40 etc... i am a bit confused. BTW I like your straight shooting manner.
Ya man, the bottom channel is too deep for average spring loaded nuts but the sides accept them just fine.
The ball ones will work 15/40 series
www.tnutz.com/product-category/15-series-hardware/
So let me get this straight, it has no physical stops at all? like it just turns forever when its turned off? That is kind of crazy and seems like a major oversight.
Would you recommend this or the CSL V2.5?
The CSL DD definitely.
Having no physical stops is what gives it more flexibility. It just doesn't have enough torque to let you feel where it is if you like heavy ffb. At some settings it's not a problem and as I said in a previous statement, unless you are doing a bus simulator or a trucking game, it is rare you would have to go lock to lock. I suppose drifting would go lock to lock but I don't think drifters like heavy ffb.
@@DouglasThompson I mis-spoke. I meant to say CSW V2.5 the belt driven one that costs around $600+ dollars with twin brushless motors. And yes I do play ETS2 and ATS, so that is important to me. Thank you for raising the concern. The CSW V2.5 has a physical stop which you cannot go past.
@@Runescape. what are your main Fanatec wheel settings in the tuning menu?
Definitely if you are on pc and aren't too deep into the ecosystem, there are some other great choices to make but this particular wheelbase is a pretty solid recommendation from me. I didn't think I would like it as much as I do.
All DD wheels are the same: no physical bump stop. Any ways, every car you're driving have different degrees of rotation, so if you put your stops for street cars, they will be useless for race cars, and conversely: bumping for race cars will prevent you from having full rotation for your street cars, drift, trucks, and so on.
how long did it take for your csl dd to be delivered, because I have ordered one myself and would like to have an Idea of about how long they take to deliver. I have heard alot of complaints about slow deliveries and was wondering if you experienced the same problem
I was part of the first batch of orders to be filled, I don't remember how long it took to get to me but they are HORRIBLE about completing orders. Order only things in stock and if you get some kind of notification about something being out of stock. Cancel your whole order and order only in stock stuff.
great review! you are funny guy. How do you like NRG seat and what model is that?
I live it for the price. I got 2 of them one for the rig and one for my car for 300 dollars shipped. The price has gone up a bit but I still think you can find the combo on eBay for 350 last I checked.
The padding on the butt area could be a little bit beefed up bu it's nothing some extra foam can't handle.
#2 and #4 should be fixed, but the others are basically compromises you have to make to get a DD base for $350. I think the boost kit is so expensive because they are using it to make up for a slim margin on the standard base. Kind of a weak way to do it, Imo. I think they'd have been better off making the standard base $400 and the boost kit for a c-note. Does the software have any settings for the stop? My simucube has settings for degrees of rotation (to set it a little before or after the in-game rotation) and I can adjust how hard it stops. They may be able to fix that with a software patch.
It's better now that I have adjusted my ffb to accommodate the weak stop. It's nowhere near as bothersome as it was at first but still a large factor I would bring up if someone asked what I didn't like about it.
Got a CSL DD and boost kit. The DD was faulty when it was delivered I was told to returned the DD and boost kit. Took them 15 days to replace the boot kit but no DD. My last purchase from Fanatec I think.
As I usually say Fanatec products are great until you have to deal with customer service. They will ruin your whole experience.
I am experiencing loud metallic rattle from between the base shaft and the quick release, when driving vom offtrack back on track. Is this normal on dd wheels? Is anyone else experiencing this as well?
Use the safety screw or my "plastic bag method" it will go away.
I’m seeing a lot of people saying the csl dd is not strong even with the boost kit? Should I keep my csl elite? I was going to sell it today and order my ps dd pro. Any thoughts?
I don't think it is enough of an upgrade to go through the hassle of selling the unit and having to wait for the CSL DD. It is an amazing wheelbase but do is the CSL DD. What games do you play mostly?
@@DouglasThompson iracing and gran turismo. The wait is not bad right now it ships on dec 17th. Or I was honestly thinking just keeping my csl elite and building a 2nd rig for my kids and friends
@@DouglasThompson just orderd me csl dd . I’m excited to have my first DD
I know this is kinda late, but what seat are u using? looks really comfy
NRG frp311 or 300 something. I think it's the universal size or a medium. I got a pack of two for pretty cheap on eBay
@@DouglasThompson thanks man! Would u pick it again or U do u know any other better seats?
@@Zarko1k I put the other one in my real car that I race in. But for my particular hips I would like a tighter fit so I wouldn't buy it again just for that reason but it's a good seat. And I could recommend it if your hips fit it. I wish the padding was a little bit better but I put a lot of seat time in so it was good at first but I had to put some foam underneath the butt portion after many many hours of using it.
I can change the bump stop feel on my SC2 Pro. I’d image that feature will come to the Fanatec direct drive software eventually.
You can change it but it's just not strong enough to be able to feel it with the ffb settings I like. It's not a huge deal. If you need to rotate the wheel that much with the type of racing I like, you done fucked up. Lol
Ya is sc2 sport has hard stop where it allows you to pick
@@DouglasThompson But it is a big deal because you made it your #1 worst thing on your list.
Whoops, disregard my last comment, I thought I was in a different chain of comments. Lol
It is a big deal but my whole goal with this video was to showcase that this wheelbase (as far as I can tell) doesn't have many issues. I had a hard time coming up with 5 things I really didn't like about the unit and 2 of them can be corrected by Fanatec with a price change and not cheaping out on hardware. Lol
@@DouglasThompson OK that answers my questions ha!
I have a CSW 2.5 and that has the much more secure USB "B" connection, having said that I have securely cable tied all cables from the wheelbase to my rig. I have noticed that on the drive shaft of the CSL DD there is no "O" ring. That was there to stop wheel rattle, I think. Flex between the wheel and the shaft may lead to connector pin/socket problems between the wheel and base.
My only reason for a change of wheelbase will be the 90-2520 steering angle. I drive ATS and ETS2 truck sims now as arthritis in the wrists has put an end to my sim racing.
Ya the rattle is present on the new DD... unless you use the screw.
The USB choice - in my opinion - was made because everybody screams for USB-C... If they use another connection then 50% of the people say: Why they use this old standard...
@@alex.germany That could be... :)
Question: Whose DD Base also makes a very slight noise when it is switched on? It‘s a very slight high frequency noise. I use it with the Boost Kit which also emits a high-frequency noise.
I would appreciate if you could let me know if your Base (and PSU) is COMPLETELY silent - when it's on. THX 🙏🏼
I ok try to check and see later today. :)
That might be coil whine, you should contact Fanatec and maybe they will send you a new one .
@@DouglasThompson thank you Douglas!! That would be nice! The room should just be quiet and you need to keep your ear close. The only thing that matters to me is whether the other CSL DD are completely silent or not.
@@DouglasThompson my DD (Pro) is one month old. if the other devices also make noises, I'm reassured. I just don't want to ignore it...
@@zupaburschi6268 I meant coil not cool lol
You've raised some good points with some points I agree with you and some I don't. But with the usb cable remember the csl dd is an entry level wheelbase. And that fanatec takes into account that most people do not have a Full motion rig.
I think I addressed that in the vid didn't I? Maybe I am thinking about my review video...I did make that point that most will not take issue with that since only a small handful of users own motion setups. I do see a benifit of using that cable though; Easier to source since every Android user already has one.
@@DouglasThompson who has a motion rig with a base level DD base?
I do! ;)
Doesn't matter a connection end is not even 50cents. Don't make excuses for a piss poor company
I think they could have definitely fit the larger connection but that particular cable is easier to find out and about. Honestly they should have at least came up with some kind of secure retention method...
how about a heavier wheel with 8nm? does it hurt a lot the feel? I was thinking csl dd plus that wheel with 1.6kg. that's the only reason I don't know if I choose csl dd or dd1 to compensate heavier wheels
What type of racing will you be doing mostly?
@@DouglasThompson right now is acc but I play almost the same amount of my free time in rally, f1 or ac
I can't recommend this wheelbase as a good choice for F1 stuff. It will let you feel what you need but it will definitely not be enough to replicate an open wheeled car with no power steering. At least I think F1 cars don't have power steering. I'm not too sure.
@@DouglasThompson F1 cars have power steering. Without power steering no one could drive them because of the extremly high forces. The forces are so high you can't turn the wheel for high speed corners and even when you get the wheel to turn you can easily brake your arms when you hit a curb. Power steering is absolutly necessary for every high downforce cars.
Hmm I had no idea, that is a whole other world imo, thank you for clearing up my misconception! :)
You had to work hard to find those 5 things? They look mostly trivial to me... ;) The weak stop might be the only concerning one (turning past the bump messes up the steering angle), but does this comment applies to the 8NM PSU?
This is the 8nm version and it would be much more of an issue with a 5nm power supply. The CSL elite was a weaker overall design but it could have less newton meters of torque because there were built in hard stops. This is a quality found in every direct drive wheelbase, just it is more easily felt on lower torque wheel bases. As I said in the video, most of the time when you need to rotate the wheel that much, you are already far past trouble. Lol
@@DouglasThompson Fair enough. Thanks for the precision!
Don’t do jokes about a super boost kit or they will milk us again 🙈😅
I wouldn't put it past them...
What do you bet the CSW version will be 10nm base with a 13nm "upgrade". Lol
Fanatec isn't milking you. It's your choice to buy it or not to buy it. Every business does the same shit
@@SIMRIG412 Not every product does the same shit!
I think he means in a general sense, as in every company is out to make a profit. I don't think this move was a smart one on Fanatecs part though. I hope they don't continue on this path.
Pff, super booster kit..more like we need a Super Saiyan Booster Kit! Lol. I appreciate the concise breakdown of your impressions and thoughts on the CSL DD. I'm still interested in the side/upgrade. I just wish Fanatec wasn't taking the "Apple" approach with this.
Same...they could keep the 349.00 price and package in the "boost". They would probably even still make profit. Even if they sold at a bit of a loss, enough of their gear is overpriced they could afford to sell it at a loss knowing you can't use it without other Fanatec accessories anyway...
Even at 350 it's not like it's a clear choice to new sim racing users since you have to still buy a wheel and pedals anyway.
350 is quite a bit of money for any single Peice of gear imo. All this shit is too expensive when you really think about it. Lol
@@DouglasThompson I think 400 for DD + boost would have been just right. The 5nm version isn't solely a marketing trick though as it also enables people on desks or lower end wheelstands to use it ;)
I understand your point but you can always turn ffb down. Can't always turn it up! ;)
@@DouglasThompson Honestly, that's kind of the problem I have with all of this. They could have marketed this as a 5-8nm base, with the single power pack (less e-waste) and shown people how to turn down the ffb if they don't like it up so high. Secondarily, running just the 5nm kit, you also lose road detail, so it's like they're trying to softly nudge people into buying the boost kit (more money, but more waste). I'd have even paid $450-$500 in that scenario. Mind you, with good t-nuts and hardware for mounting. I'm not against Fanatec, and I'm not against people/companies/corporations making money, there's nothing wrong with that. How they're making their money is what's bothering me.
@@misterdog7 That's not an inherently bad point, it is a good starting point, however see my other response to Doug.
A counter point, however, I race on my crappy .75 inch particle board desk with the CSL Elite, clamp mounted, which puts out roughly the same torque as this wheel base. My desk (I realize everyone's desk is different) has held up just fine. If the torque response is really that much faster and stronger, I could see it becoming a problem, but I don't think it will be.
What about the compatibility issues with th shifter on manual mode? A lot of problems reported from the 1st wave
I actually haven't used my shifter with this wheelbase. My Fanatec shifter is only used for menu navigation on my rig. I use a Simvertex h patterns and an aiologs sequential for shifting.
@@DouglasThompson sequential works just fine but H patern isn’t recognized at all, i sent a request to support and wait for the feedback
I just tried it in the Fanatec wheel property page and It is not recognizing my H-pattern inputs as well. Sequential is working. I will reach out to Fanatec as well and make an update video if this is not corrected very soon.
@@DouglasThompson Thx, feel free to post on any update on this situation & by the way continue wiyh the good job on videos
Will do and thank you very much!
Just committed to buying Fanatec and can't help but feel a little sour. It just feels like they're delaying announcing a load cell kit for their new pedals so I get impatient and buy the currently available clutch pedal. Same with the qr2 so they can phase out the qr1 in a couple years so I'll have to buy a qr2 mount for the wheel base and any wheels I have then, if I want to buy any of their newer wheels at that time.
That's exactly what they are doing.
yeah theyve been dicking everyone around about QR2 for so long now. Meanwhile you can get a D1 spec QR like NRG or simagic that works with literally any wheel for a reasonable price lol
What kind of screws are best to mount it?
Any M6 screws will work fine as long as the head is larger than the holes you are mounting through. You can always use washers to enlarge the surface area as well. what type of mounting do you plan on doing?
soo.. to buy DD PRO or wait for thrustmaster DD ? ( ps5 & pc user here )
What is the DD pro?
@@DouglasThompson recently released fanatec dd bundle for ps5 pc
Id say go with Fanatec, they will have the best support as they were chosen for the Gran Turismo 7 official peripheral.
@@TheMaGe- not to say the Thrustmaster one wouldn't be better. We don't know yet. Maybe just wait and see...hard to say.
My biggest problem is I can't get it. If I want the 5 Nm i have to wait till July but for the same thing with the boost pack its available in May so to get the cheaper version I have to wait an extra 2 months.
Why do you think they do that.... ;)
Just ordered it today. CSL DD with F1 v2.5. Should be available may 30. Cant wait
@@SpurgtFuglen I'm excited for you! Make sure and use the wheel screw
good honest review of the product, we knew if it was going to be cheaper that it was going to be CHEAPER LOL . I AM VERY WORRIED THAT THAT TINY LITTLE BOX IS GOING TO GET OVERHEATED . and yes the connection fatigue on the shaft bearing will be a problem over time. it is a product designed with a market price point designed to compete with Logetec and thrustmaster I think both of those units will give this DD a run for its money especially which is five Nm as standard torque. without spending more money .. also the pedal set is a standard potentiometer unit which we know are nothing but crap and fail constantly and you have to pay the extra money for the upgrade to a digital unit ,,, again more extra money.
my advice is to buy the CSL Elite with v2 pedal set a shifter and hand break. I purchased one of the BMW wheels with the Alcântara and I'm not sorry I did i love the hefty feel. buying PlayStation buttons might be possible again unless the new DD has permanent non changeable button covers right now all you can buy is ps stickers not button caps. and the kicker i own 3 full csl systems with custom wheels and my only worry is something will break and i will have to deal with Fanatecs world renowned customer service nightmares.their own blogs are full of pissed off customers ,not a happy place lol. so lets see if this little unit can meet our expectations we do need more sim manufacturers so that compilations between them can give us better products and customer service . once you have customer service that's really good your competitors have to deal with that I can't tell you to get fucked anymore " we got your email ,we will get back to you shortly" wtf lol yea their first response after 2 weeks is we got your email.hahahahahahaha. I LOVE my fanatec gear but i would like some other price point options . hey someone in the US please start a sim manufacturing company let's fix the arrogant "you get this" environment that gamers have to live with right now. everyone being stuck at home with Cove it was great for Sim racing and now it's taking off like crazy and it's only gonna continue to grow so someone get on it please MADE IN THE USA.
I think customer service is their biggest issue...
Seems like they grew too fast and ignored that Dept. And focused entirely on marketing and product development.
@@DouglasThompson plus there was a big flood and they lost a lot of inventory,,, then they were forced to move so yes your right they tried to make up cash flow quickly and in doing that someone needed to get screwed,,,,,thats how many is made by the way lol. but I do like their products and if I was going to replace my system I would buy another exactly as I have and I have a spare already but I invested in kind of a new parts bin kind of thing in case I have some thing that breaks. I think it's going to take a management change in order to get customer service as a priority this new cheaper DD unit I think it's a great idea but I'm gonna give it a year or so and I understand this is pushing thrust master to develop a direct drive system of their own and that would allow us to go to amazon.com and buy them or get them returned quickly and cheaply and that may be good for the consumer
I'm really excited to see what Thrustmaster brings to the table. I hope they use a different quick release though!
@@DouglasThompson yes a Hot quick release is a must i change my wheel type several times during a session
Ya Thrustmaster really need to up their game if they want to keep up with modern gear.
Do you regret having changed the DD1 for the csl dd?
Not yet. :)
Was actually taking pics to sell my DD1 yesterday. Still can't quite pull the trigger on selling it though.
My FFB has cut out on me about half a dozen times… only happens for a second or couple of seconds gave me a big wtf moment when it happened at turn 5 Road America. I’ve emailed support about it but nothing useful from them yet. Otherwise it’s a huge upgrade from my csl elite
Ya, mine did that a few times and some other weird stuff. I'm thinking it's the firmware, hasn't acted up in a good amount of time. Except I have to turn the wheelbase off and on anytime I play dirt rally 2.0. lol
That's a new one.
Which wheel is that? Looks pretty good
NRG reinforced series 320mm suede wheel. They make an alcantara version too but it's harder to find and pricey.
@@DouglasThompson I'm guessing it's aftermarket, that means...Fanatec compatibility components which probably cost another kidney
@@ertugrulbae46 yes. The podium hub and paddle shifters I have on the other end of the wheel costed over 300 dollars. The wheel rim was like 70 on sale. Now they go for around 100-120.
Ok so what I understand is that CSL DD 5 Nm is the same as the 8 Nm just that there is some power adapter to it imbetween the connectors? I see why that is a bit annoying but also super smart, more budget limited people can still get the amazing product and later down the road get the kit to bring new life into their wheelbase.
Did I understand that correct?
Not quite. There is no adapter in between. When you purchase the CSL DD you either buy it with a lower wattage output power supply or a slightly higher wattage power supply.
They reused the same power supply as the CSL elite wheelbase but changed the connector so you can't just buy a CSL elite power supply without having to also rewire the power supply.
The new weaker power supply is not one I know, it did not exist in the previous generation of wheelbases as far as I know. It seems they brought in a new weaker power supply that allows them to throttle the NM output of the CSL DD, the only purpose in introducing this new weaker power supply is to limit the power and make your CSL DD feel inferior. That way you are more inclined to get the larger power supply for 150.00+ tax/shipping.
They actually WANT you to resist buying the more powerful power supply at first because if you can convince yourself 5nm is enough and then you become dissatisfied later, that means they are able to charge you MORE for the power supply AND look like the good guys by offer people both "Options"...
Keep in mind the introduced and all new power supply with a sole purpose to limit the CSL DD's power output when the already had the "8nm power supply" on hand due to it being the same power supply as the previous generation belt driven wheelbase, the CSL elite. And they killed the second hand market of CSL elite power supply's being sold on ebay and such by changing the connector so you can't repurpose a CSL elite power suppl. That way they can charge as much as they would like for the "upgrade" and justify the insane price when it probably costs them no more than 5-10 dollars per power supply.
Don't think they did this as a favor.
This is the same company that lied and said one of the reasons they fragmented their product and provided options at checkout was to help fight e-waste...
How are they helping e-waste when their entire marketing strategy is to make you feel like you constantly need a higher output power supply? How worthless is the 5nm power supply? Who wants that? If you own a 5nm output power supply why would you ever buy another 5nm ps? Once you "upgrade" to an 8nm power supply, why would you ever need your 5nm power supply? It becomes e-waste at that point.
They should have never brought a separate power supply into the equation, they should have sold the 8nm version for 349.99. the whole reason they switched to direct drive for the entry level product is because it's easier and cheaper to manufacture. They even admit to automating the manufacturing process. So they are saving money and they are able to pump out more units quickly but yet we pay 150 dollars more for a product that is able to output 2 more NM with the same power supply as the previous generation? Are we to believe all these years of innovation were worthless and we should get an equivalent experience as the previous generation for the same price or should we expect a better overall product for our money each generation?
Anyway, sorry for the wall of text but it upsets me how Fanatecs market strategy is so anti-consumer...it screams "milking" and "nickel and diming"...
It's still a great product and I can recommend it but I don't want to paint a picture of a company that is doing you any favors.
@@DouglasThompsonCounter wall of text lol
I absolutely understand what you saying, what I would like them to introduce and I kinda thought this might be a start of that which it isn't and that is the chance to upgrade as you grow with your unit. Let's say you buy a CSL DD 8 Nm but then 12 Nm is the same base it's just some slight upgrade kit you get to push it further in performance. That way you could grow with your unit but I think they will never do that because they would sell less new units.
You're also right with what you said that cost goes down each generation and the model that was expensive and "ok'ish" previous generation should be improved and be cheaper next generation. So yes, the 8 Nm should have costed 350€ or whatever it is they charge for the 5 Nm now instead.
It seems like some of these sim manufacturers complicate things more than necessary and make their products inaccessible with complicated extras like this booster kit for instance or extra load kits, hydralic kits and other crap that should just be in the damn box from the start since this shit is not cheap to begin with. I see so much extra add-ons to everything especially fanatic stuff so it becomes very confusing what you really need and what you get originally on the unit you're buying. You also start to question if every piece of equipment in it's "standard" form is dogshit since you can always add extra better things to it which is not sending good signals of the product you just put in your shopping cart. If I order a Huesinkveld pedal, well guess what I just order that nothing extra, it have the good stuff right there and that gives me as a customer comfort even though those pedals are insanely expensive.
At Fanatic you pay quite a premium for their higher end gear but still get 2-3 extra choices for improvement at checkout which further make the unit 100€ or so more expensive. I have no real idea what it is or if I need it or if some of the parts are pre-installed on my more expensive unit already. It pisses me off more than it make me excited for the product I'm buying. It almost feels like they want you to accidentally order some crap that you don't need for your setup and instructions are bad overall what the extras do and if they are pre-installed or not. I know I have been recommended to put the booster kit in my shopping cart even if I already put the CSL DD 8 Nm in there and that is that setup I talked about, like they just want you to fill the shopping cart with things you already have by default on your unit in the shopping cart.
I also saw mounting brackets for 250€ for the DD 1 and DD 2, in what world is 2 metal pieces to mount a fucking Wheelbase worth 250€, are they made out of gold and titanium? So this sim stuff have sadly turned into a little bit of a snob sport already where people are ready to pay way more than they actually should because a lot of this technology is not that complicated to warrant a price tag of 250-500€ for every little thing you need in your rig.
So I get your frustration man I truly do.
Ya...that's why I really try to show off companies that are more inline with what a customer expects from a product at a certain price point. That's why Cammus is so impressive to me right now, they are releasing products at reasonable prices and still willing to make changes based on what customers suggest.
Companies like Fanatec make great stuff but you would be mistaking if you were to think they care about what customers are saying. Only numbers speak to them.
@@DouglasThompson Cammus you say, never heard of them will look them up. Btw what size of screen would you recommend infront of a rig, I guess it can be too big but 42-50 is that normal or too big?
Honestly if you can afford it, VR is the way to go! I have some vids on Cammus', I am really backing them because I believe they are doing good for the industry.
There is for sure some safety planed into the motor. With another power supply you can use it maybe at 9 or even 10nm. But how long will it last then 😁🤪
I got one and no matter what I do all it wants to do is fishtail or do donuts I can’t get it to drive straight for nothing is it to settings in the McLaren wheel?
The csl dd? What are tour settings in fanatec software and in game?
@@DouglasThompson I can’t find the Fanatec software I’m using an Xbox does that matter
Oh, in that case, yes, you have to do it with the wheel display. I never owned that one but you definitely need to adjust things in the software built into the wheel.
@@GameTimeDaD ua-cam.com/video/59cbxbE_ba8/v-deo.html
Around the 4 min mark
Doesn’t matter what I do you can’t control it you can turn the wheel left the car will go right
look forward to your comparison of CSL DD vs. Alpha mini - I hope you can get it soon
Yep, it's in the mail from what Simracingpros.com has told me. ;)
@@DouglasThompson I still have time to cancel my CSL DD order, the race is on :)
Oh damn. Pressure is on me now! :)
I actually really am in a rush to get the video out. I would like to be the first to compare them.
What's wrong with the boost kit?
The marketing and price. Nothing wrong with it physically.
Great points mate! But I didn't notice this weak stop.
Might be that I have all dampers and effects turned off?
I have my settings at
100 ffb
65 damper
0 interpolation
100 wheel friction
0 Spring
All other settings are standard.
Maybe I should try to make a video about this specifically.
The dampers being off is a huge factor I think, but with the damper turned off the steering feels very strange to my hands.
It could be, the car I am trying to replicate has hydraulic steering and my 06 WRX has pretty decent amount of resistance when rotating the wheel.
@@DouglasThompson Yeah probably why, I just don't like the damper feeling.
You wanna do a collaboration video? I have a fun little idea.
@@DouglasThompson Interesting, what do you have in mind?
just got my new wheel base so i can do rally and trucking. When you spin the wheel is it supposd to have that kinda wobble like its going up then down.
That's fine. That just means the stem is a bit out of alignment. The clamping collar that is around the silver aluminum stem is the cause. Just means when it was assembled the stem was not centered. You can adjust it yourself but it's not going to hurt anything. :)
@@DouglasThompson which assembly part?
The clamping collar
@@DouglasThompson don't know wat u mean with the clamping collar. Sorry I'm a dumb dumb
Your fine. So if you look at the stem, the thing your quick release hub attached to, you will see a sort of U shaped black clamp with a screw through it. That clamp determines how centered your stem will be. If it bothers you a lot, you can try to straighten it but it won't affect anything if you leave it as is.
See. I knew you’d have points that no other reviewer would.
Are you going to end up selling the DD or your DD1?
I still haven't decided. The 2 big issues, usb c and lack of a hard end rotation are the only things holding my decision back. Otherwise I wouldn't hesitate to put my dd1 on eBay right now...lol
@@DouglasThompson You own a DD1 already so the CSL is not a step up in the Direct drive market as a DD1 as way more power then the CSL. The CSL is aimed at the mid range market for newbies like myself to get into the direct drive of wheels. Glad you pointed out the hardware cos least now when i get mine i will prepare for it. But yeh typical Fanatec they always skimp and everything to make more money.
Its not necessarily an upgrade but it is more suited to my choice of racing games.
You can make a boost kit with a better meanwell psu for much cheaper than the boost kit... uses a 4 pin plug like off a pc psu for the extra motherboard power plugs. Or you can use a cheaper chinese led driver but if I'm making it I want a quality power supply.
Yes indeed! I will be interviewing the first person to do it publicly actually. He is out of the country right now and away from his normal setup but it will be in the future.
I really do appreciate a review that keys on cons but I have to ask about your "big two".
Flimsy connection comment - Has it come unconnected for you? If not, how can you say it is flimsy? if it stays connected, it is robust enough.
"No. 1 biggest issue" Weak Stop - "Most of the time it's not a big deal" doesn't sound like it warrants no. 1 status. You seem much more annoyed with the boost kit and hardware, which I understand and completely agree with. Maybe the list should be inverted! haha
Thanks for sharing the info!
Well the boost kit is a pricing issue so it could easily be corrected in the future with discounts and such. The USB c connection is not my favorite but I have a full motion rig and the way I set up my monitor stand is one that can touch the rear connections so I have to always be mindful of that small connection getting crushed which forces me to have to push my monitor stand back further than I'd like. It's something that seems it didn't have to be like that, I wish the CSL DD had the same USB connection as the podium DD1/dd2. The weak stop is an immersion breaker but as I said it really only factors in if you crashed anyway but it does remind me I am not in a real car especially in VR. The reason this is the biggest deal to me is because it's not something Fanatec can fix, it has to do with the max output of the motor the entire unit is designed around. Even the USB connection could be swapped out pretty easy. Anyway that's why my list is as it is. :)
info about nuts and bolts is quite important... I honestly didn't know they don't give you anything in the box, not even basic screw...
I did get t-nuts. Lol
They introduced this model, and discontinued the CSL Elite less than a year after I bought one. Wish I had known this was coming.
NOW I'll get this one, and they'll come out with the 10Nm model. . . hide and watch.
Guaranteed. Lol
That weak end stop is nothing they can do about. It's just a software stop, not a literal hard one like in gear & belt-driven wheelbases so if you're running high FFB levels, then the power required to simulate the rotation stop is the same as what the wheel puts out while driving hence why you can't feel it
That is indeed why, its not game-breaking, just annoying. ;)
They don't supply bolts because everyone's frame is different. You have to get 10mm + 'X' length to mount correctly. The 'X' is the thickness of your rig frame you're attaching it to. I have a 5mm frame plate, so I needed 15mm bolts. If you had a 7mm plate, you'd need 17mm etc. It's not one size fits all
so why not provide a few sizes? :)
I don't videogame, but I seem to enjoy you talking about. I'm just here for the TU.
That's a huge compliment, thank you CH!
I think you should keep your other wheel base. This looks like a fantastic entry level wheel but I can see how they were able to get the price to be so affordable, nickel and dimeing us with small things left out and a few finicky things here and there. Great review overall. I think this wheelbase has a great price as 10nm ones or better still cost significantly more and don’t have the fanatec ecosystem.
The ecosystem is great but it's also a trap. The deeper you dive the more you feel locked in...lol
I still would recommend a simagic alpha mini over this just for the hub it comes with.
Fanatec is definitely the king of sim hardware at this point they bring the most polish but they are also riding on their own coattails a bit by overcharging for simple things they know you will want/need after they have you fully engaged.
@@DouglasThompson I totally agree with this and being on pc I have options so I have not bought a DD wheelbase yet. Thrustmaster announced a new one though. Interested in what they offer.
I am excited to see what they bring! Thrustmaster is a big name and if they get their big boy pants on, it should be a sight to see!
@@DouglasThompson I am using a Thrustmaster Tmx right now which is a very capable wheel. The pedals are the weakness which is why I got the csl pedals to pair with it.
I think Thrustmaster can do something really great, they have a lot of funds for development. Hope they go for the premium market. Not saying they make bad products but they just don't make anything that compares to the quality Fanatec brings to the table imo. I loved my t150 and recommend it to many people and I know Thrustmaster makes much better wheelbases than that already so if they buckle down and really go big, it could be big for them AND for the market!
I don't wreck so I would never notice. Foam tape on the back of the t-nut works well. 10Nm is available from Simagic for just $250.00 more. Usb-c is a issue. Someone should develop a fix soon. Agree it won't be Fanatec that creates the fix.
;) now Cammus has filled the void! 15nm for 499 + shipping!
@@DouglasThompson i will look them up. Thanks.
@@backwardog1 Youll probably end up back on one of my vids! ;)
You are so right, also the first reviewer who said no screws is a Nogo
I heard one user received screws...maybe they just didn't send any to me because they don't like me. Lol
Another issue I found out about while watching someone unbox it, is that the packaging tells exactly what's inside, I don't trust the mail so I prefer discrete packaging!
But I'll take the risk anyway, I need that GT DD Pro wheel!
I think the same about Fanatec gear. Luckily not many people know what simracing is but still.
That USB c dongle shaft is a little sus for longevity
Agreed.
I will be testing it will full motion. If it breaks, I will do an update immediately.
Ya lost me at "USB-C is not robust enough". It's one of the best cables to actually be using to interface a device in 2021 and 2022. It's rapidly becoming a one-cable solution, and the entire reason it's that way is because the USB-C connector is durable enough to stand the test of time. Don't know about you, but I've never had a single USB-C connector on any device, male or female, fail on me.
If anything, the RJ11 connectors are more flimsy since one good tug and the wires are ripped out of the connector. With USB-C, a tug just pulls the cable out of the receptacle.
For issues 3 and 1, I'll keep an eye out for those when my GT DD arrives. My bundle has the boost kit, so 5 doesn't apply, and I have a huge supply of M6 bolts so 4 doesn't apply to me.
Lol it's robust enough for a phone...
To be fair I didn't experience any issues related to the USB c but I still don't like it. Thank you for expressing your thoughts though! They are very welcome here!
Productive video
Lol is that sarcasm?
What steering wheel is that ?
The rim or the whole kit?
If you are talking about the rim it is an NRG reinforced 320mm suede model
@@DouglasThompson thank you
One other thing. Static shifters is to far back due to longer steering column..
Ya, I recently heard about that with RVR Closet. What do you think the new stem will be like?
@@DouglasThompson If i would guess qr2 will be the same. but who knows.. Fo my setup the longer steering column actually was a good thing except for the shifter issue. my sitting position is now perfect. Could not get it quite right when using the csl elite.
@@holseng I oddly enough haven't noticed my wheel being closer to me. Usually I am very sensitive to small changes like this but I am really enjoying the base and have been fine tuning it and making it feel even better.
@@DouglasThompson Maybe the CSL DD and DD 1 is the same and CSW 2.5 and elite is shorter.. That my be why the changed it to be the same for all products..
@@holseng Good point I think you are correct. I do remember my CSL elite shaft was much shorter.
I've just bought dd and I'm worried about my desk not being strong enough for it
Send me a pic to demureg@gmail.com
Also, I'm doing a "cheapest decent aluminum extrusion rig" video coming up with a full build tutorial and a parts list breakdown. And it will be geared towards use with the CSL DD.
They didn't include screws because the length of the screw depends on the width of your wheel plate.
Then include multiple lengths. ;)
The 8nm pack is the proper version, and is great value. The 5nm pack is just there as a budget version to keep the price similar to the previous csl units, but there’s really no point in buying the 5nm version according to other UA-camrs.
Check out my Cammus wheelbase review. ;)
@@DouglasThompson i already ordered the CSL DD boosted but I'll check it out anyway xD
Lol well, the CSL DD is not a bad choice by any means, it's a safe bet and feels great! Enjoy!
@@DouglasThompson god damn it, I checked out your CAMMUS video and wish I hadn't... ignorance is bliss! Your review is great, but I wouldn't buy anything on the word of any one reviewer, especially such a new product and company. But there's a good market for used fanatec gear here in UK, so I could switch in the future. Keep up the good work!
@@Tom-xj5yb it's not bad to be cautious but I see big things in Cammus' future! Thank you for leaving a place in your heart for Cammus, I hope in time you will come to trust them. They seem super passionate about this stuff. :)
I didn't know that skinny Valtteri Bottas reviewed wheelbases!
How did you find me?! I've been in hiding for years!
Went with the 10nm simagic alpha mini instead and I'm so happy I did lol the build quality/QR is sooo much better and the extra torque is nice
Also the back case on the CSL DD is plastic so be careful using the t nuts to mount it there - you might destroy the case 🤣
Lol nice choice!
For casual racer like me those points are no existing lol i love my gt dd pro ❤️
It's still a great base! I just prefer my Cammus currently since it is the same price for almost double performance. ;)
I had to go to the hardware store to get longer bolts to mount the pedals.
Yep. Fanatec need to include more hardware. I so dislike they do this. People defend them saying "Fanatec doesn't know what your mounting it to though" so instead of including multiple lengths or hardware in general, they just take the easy (cheaper) way out and don't include it or include the absolute minimum.
Are 8nm enough ENOUGH, like i mean I'm using a T500Rs currently that technically has enough but it's 8nm REALLY enough for anyone, i hope you get what I mean lmao
It's enough, more is typically better but it's definitely a sweet spot power-wise!
@@DouglasThompson for ACC aswell, cuz that game to have such a WIDE range from feeling nothing to clipping in euruge on spa (in the same setting)
@@EExgle Sorry, I dont play that game. I dont really play ac either, I really only play rally games. I have no interest in grip racing, im, sorry I cant be of more help in that way but I wouldnt play the game at all. :(
@@DouglasThompson no worries mate, still big thank you for answering me and everyone else in the comments your great 😁
@@EExgle Ya man, I try to keep up with the comments throughout the day. some slide by because youtube doesnt always notify me but I try to sift through the commentsd to make surer I dont miss any. ;)
Nice video! Thanks. But I find it disturbing that you've recorded at 60 fps xD You might think the more the merrier but not in this case, it just doesn't look natural. You look a bit too hyped up
Lol I'm not sure what you mean but I appreciate the feedback!
@@DouglasThompson hahaahh what I meant is that your camera is set to record at 4K+60fps. First is the image resolution and then it's the frames per second. Usually you'd want that to be 24 (cinematic look) or 30 (TV look). But having it at 60 is double what we're used to. So the image looks strange, like if you speed it up. If you want make a test with both settings and you should appreciate the difference specially when there's movement in the image. Hope that's of use! Thanks again for the review
@@sorianoraul :) I understand, thank you for throwing your suggestion my way. I prefer the 60fps though, I have recorded at 24,30,60 and 120 and anything below 60fps looks strange to my eyes. 120 just makes the file too large so I settled into 60 :)
$700.00 taxes in for 5nm Base 🤔 By the time I throw a $400 RiM on it, $1100.00.
I think I’ll keep my 6nm CsL Elite 😃
Good choice! Great wheelbase! :)
@@DouglasThompson bang for the buck, for me anyway, it’s been an amazing wheel. Decent torque, very smooth and does everything I need it to do. It’s would be nice to have a few more nm’s however at the end of the day unless the DD’s take a big drop, I won’t be switching anytime soon.
I am certainly not saying that DD isn’t cool, in fact I think it provides a step up to the immersion. Just that the price jump is just not justifiable atm.
@@canadiankrispybacon1450 now would be the best time to sell your wheelbase to get the most money from it since the only wheelbase Fanatec has in stock it the Podium DD1/2...those are over a grand each so people will be looking for less expensive Fanatec alternatives.
Aside from that, your wheelbase is very good and if you are happy with it, use it till it breaks!
After using my CSL DD for about a week now, I ABSOLUTELY HATE the end stop. WHY is it just a sponge?!? My old T500RS had a hard wall of solid motor force at 900 degrees that I could power through if I wanted, but this feels like I'm turning into a spring or a very soft elastomer. It literally gets weaker once I reach 900 degrees and then gets stiff at about 1000
I'm glad I'm not the only person this bothers. It's not a huge deal considering my type of preferred racing but it is definitely a bother nonetheless...
It would be cool if you could tune the end stop like you can with Simagic software.
@@DouglasThompson My friend just returned his defective CSL DD and got an Alpha mini instead... man I wish I went with a mini instead. 13Nm vs ~8.8Nm... that's a huge difference. I do love my CSL DD, but it's not as good as I had hoped. I can still feel the notches in the motor when it's on, and oscillation is pretty bad. I've managed to get my settings feeling pretty decent but it didn't blow my mind like I expected it to. Maybe I'm doing something wrong?
What are your damper and friction settings?
Also, the Alpha mini does not feel like 13nm to my hands at least in the games I tested. It felt very close to the output of the CSL DD to me but maybe in Iracing the tuning software reacts differently...
Give it time it haven’t even released yet! This is not the final production yet!
As in the PS5 version isn't out yet? Lol
My stem and quick release has no flex at all on gt dd pro
Nice! You are among the lucky :)
Put a mark on the top of the rim like other wheels have and then you will know when the wheel is at its stop.
My CSL elite came with no hardware so I went and got screws and lock washers, my csl elite is way sturdier than that thing, that things a PoS just like I thought it was gonna be $699 for 5nm $849 for 8nm of FFB just buy a DD1/DD2 if you already have a csl elite, if your upgrading your csl elite to this your wasting your money IMO
To clarify, this wheelbase is 349.99 plus shipping for the 5nm option and 500+ shipping for the 8nm option.
I absolutely hate the way Fanatec did this to squeeze more money out of the product but I can't deny it is a great product.
I will be featuring the Alpha mini in a future video and also some others, so there are other companies besides Fanatec. ;) Thank you for leaving your thoughts!
You can't do a "worst things about csl dd" list without mentioning the shitty QR. So I'm going to say this is definetly NR. 1 Problem!
Ya...the sticky qr and tolerance issues suck...and the fact you have to use a screw for it to be solid...
Still looks super flimsy to me - but, you know - voicing that opinion usually draws the zombie horde.
I have been using it pretty extensively and both the stem and USB c concern have been less of one. Still I wish they were more solid but I don't see most users having an issue. The biggest issue I still see is the booster kit pricing.
@@DouglasThompson thanks for the additional insight man - yeah, the whole golden power brick thing for additional nm is strange... attractive price point of the base is gonna be the gateway drug I guess :)
@@ColSandersLives ya, people are so hyped about the price of the base but it's really only an attractive starting price for those already in the ecosystem with pedals and a wheel.
With a wheel and pedals you're looking at almost 1k...
Ha! Super Booster kit. It would be at a super booster price I bet.
At least 2-300 ;)
At that's just for the brick, you gotta purchase the booster cable for an extra $25 If you want to unleash the full power of the super booster kit.
@@DouglasThompson
That 8Nm PSU is $250 here in Australia. The 750w Corsair PSU in my PC was only $160.
My 750w power supply was 70usd...
@@DouglasThompson
Makes that 8Nm PSU look like its gold plated.
man i need to buy one lol. i have a t150,
It's a great base!
@@DouglasThompson ya but it doesn’t work on ps5 like what kinda bullshit is that
@@GlassfilmWeddings pure.
Lol
They will be coming out with one soon but rest assured it won't be until GT7 comes out. Almost positive they will have a bundle or kit ready for that game.
i got all the screws and t nuts with mine
You got actual hardware like to mount the base to a rig?
@@DouglasThompson yes
Hmm. Maybe Fanatec listened to all the complaining I did. Lol
I got mine yesterday and I was excited like a small kid at X-mas time, but after three hours with it I am honestly dissapointed.
It is noticably weaker than my CLS Elite PS/4, even with the boost kit.
If I press FFB test button in the Fanatec configuration software with the CLS ELite, it shakes the wheel so violently that I need two hands to hold it and I am litterally worried it will damage itself. But with the CLS DD I can easily hold the wheel with one hand when set to 100%. It feels like 50% of the CLS Elite.
As for driving it the CLS DD feels slightly more precise and refined, but the overall feeling does not in any way impress me. Only thing is the absence of the FFB deadzone on the CLS Elite near the top position. That's nice. But on the other hand I get so much more power from the Elite that I litteraly have to fight the wheel when set to max FFB.
I'll give anothe try today but if I cant get more power out of it, it's going back.
Did you get my other reply to this?
You mean the csl elite right?
So it is not worth making the change ? I was considering to change to a DD 8NM. But now i am worried
It's worth an upgrade only if you are experiencing issues with your elite. The DD with 8nm power supply will be noticeably stronger but not blow you out of the water strong. You will feel more nuanced ffb though as well.
Don't get me wrong, you will likely love it but there is a chance you would not be blown away since the CSL elite is already a great wheelbase.
@@DouglasThompson hey. Thank you for giving up your time to write this. I just tweaked some settings in the wheelbase and downloaded a Lut for AC and now it is simply great. I will have to keep my wheelbase.
If you didn't know the stem is actually connected by USB c if you remove it you'll find a USB c on the other end
Hmm, I had no idea. Just to clarify, you are serious and not joking right?
@@DouglasThompson no I'm 100% serious if you loosen that clamp and pull the stem out you'll see for yourself or you can take a look at boosted media video also I'm happy and envious you got you're dd already I ordered on June 9th and I have to wait until sep 20th so yea 😄
Hmm interesting. I'm sorry you have to wait. I pre-ordered mine on the first wave. It was hard as hell but I got it done. took me like an hour of refreshing after enter the information each time...it kept failing then it finally went through one time.
You will really enjoy the base, what base are you coming from or will this be your first?
@@DouglasThompson yea I was eligible for the first wave but I didn't know I had to sub to the newstandard newsletter so I missed the first wave and got in the 2nd but I have a logitech g920 and v3 pedals at the moment also if you don't mind helping I kinda misplaced my rj 12 cable for my pedals and I need a solution
That's not good. I don't know if the cables are proprietary or not...I think Fanatec would probably send you an extra cable if you paid shipping.
You will probably be blown away by the CSL DD btw. What games do you play mostly?
Mentioning usb c problem mans haven't seen the usb micro b cable. That would be a problem. hehe.
Damn... you're right! We at least dodged that bullet. Lol
I love your personality I found your channel yesterday. I'm subscribing. HELL YEAH You want to give it away I'm in the market for a wheel and peddles to contact to my son's PS4 so I can start racing. I'm out of work due to an injury on the job. So I need donations so I don't go stir crazy. I'm just saying if you don't needed anymore I'll take it. Lmao
Lol my CSL DD belongs to another now. I gave it to my dad along with some pedals and a wheel/paddle shifters. I am potentially doing a wheel rim giveaway in the near future depending on a few factors. I really appreciate you checking out so many of my videos!
If you like funny stuff check out my second UA-cam channel "SleepyPants SimRacing" ;)
It's really stupid that Fanatec has the cheeks to absolutely rip people off for basically everything, then further rip off even more for basic small accessories that really ought to be €10-20 but cost 3 figures...AND that wasn't enough so they literally don't even ship the hardware crap which you need to buy yourself.
Honestly..that's just taking the piss. What's next, microtransactions for using the wheel??
100 percent this is the future if people let it be...Tesla already does this.
@@DouglasThompson I hope simagic makes it to the console market. Saving the shipping cost alone means you can get higher end high torque wheel for same price as fanatec CSL 8nm DD.
@@ertugrulbae46 they seem like they are building quite a name for themselves.
Don't know how anyone can say a type c is a neg over a type a 🤣
Type c is just more fragile than the connection used on the podium series. I have since just strapped the cable to my rig so there is minimal pull on the connector.
Type C is more suitable for slim, mobile devices. Look at the mounting pins of USB type B vs type C and you'll understand why type B is prefered for devices that aren't meant to be replace in a few years just because of a bad connector.
Agreed.
Agreed.
stem flex😢😤
It's a bit annoying but at the end of the day it didn't matter as much as it bothered me.
👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Thanks man!
You have a way better dd1 so simple fix here!!! Scratch the entry level csl/dd and problem solved. I like your channel but still scratch my head on your downgrade in a dd anyway. I think it makes sense you got it to get views and up your audience because it's the new toy in the sim world and people are all over it but when it comes down to it my money is on you will be selling the entry level dd when the wave of the new toy ends
Lol that's a good thought but no I mostly got it for weight reasons and the fact I never go above 8ish nm. I REALLY love the CSL DD. I wanted to hate it so bad cause Fanatec pissed me off but also knew Fanatec can put out really quality products. I strongly dislike Fanatecs marketing team and customer service. The DD1 is 34+ lbs at the very top of my rig and the CSL DD is less than half the weight. I am planning on selling my DD1 but I still can't quite make myself do it. I have never actually used the DD1 at full power other than just to feel what it was like. It wasn't fun and it wasn't practical for the type of racing I do primarily.
I have always been fascinated by things that outperform the big dogs and this is definitely a much better price/performance item for what I do. I actually have been really digging the Simagic Alpha Mini but the problem I keep thinking about is how many USB ports I have available. Currently I am using every USB port on my PC and because my GPU is very large, it covers up the second pci-e slot so I am not able to get a usb expansion card. Having Fanatec pedals, handbrake and shifter all connected to a Fanatec wheelbase made a lot of sense for me.
Anyway, just thought I'd bring some clarity to the situation. I hope that answers your question!
Also If you haven't already, I made a video series on this wheelbase, I made a review and I made a "5 things the CSL DD does better" video as well. No point in only talking about the good things when people are trying to figure out if a product is for them or not! ;)
Point 4. is just dumb ..
Why do you feel that point #4 is dumb?
Rich spoilt brats winging...boo hoo
Lol
Is this guy a professional cry baby?
I guess so...lol
Much appreciated for the support! I don't need to remind you but for those reading this reply, it's best to know the faults just as well as the strengths so you can make a wise purchase! :)
@@DouglasThompson you can put that on your resume XD
Professional complainer and poor driver for hire! I'm available for parties!
great disappointment with you, I hoped you would talk about the serious problem that all those csldd have
What is that?
I think he might be joking...not sure.
Perhaps. Maybe he or she will respond. :)
@@DouglasThompson the axis of all those bases rotate with oscillation, nobody mentioned any of this, I expected someone to do it, you still did not notice this serious defect?
@@Galluk.o I've had no issues with oscillations. What settings are you using? I usually use a lot of wheel friction and quite a bit of dampening trying to replicate my real cars.
One really bad thing about it is, how flimsy the connectors at the back. I had mine a couple of days and I'd only just got my rig setup so i hadn't cable tied all the cables yet. I got my foot caught on the pedal connector cable while getting out of my rig and yanked the cable. It completely pulled out all of the connector for the pedals. Sure my fault for not sorting my cables out, but for the money it costs noway should it of broken so easily.
Yes I agree, all sjmracing companies need to start switching over to more robust connections imo.