No clue what was in the hand that Nadu kept, but no play T1, surveil land T2, T3 was simply land pass into a Pognify when Wheel was cast. Seems like the hand needed to be better
Seems like Nadu and Rog/Si kept some strange hands. Would have definitely been interesting to know the thought process behind it. You never let a secret commander Nadu deck play Sisay like that and not kill it instantly.
I'd like to see some data before we go banning a card, but man Nadu is just a crazy card. Has so much redundancy and is flexible AF. At a minimum it is a new top tier card/commander in CEDH.
I think letting the wheel resolve with Bowmasters would have been the best play. When Andy played Nomads en kor with Sisay out alarm bells should have been going off.
Spoilers! Thought we were going to see yet another missed Pact trigger. Glad to see that wasn't the case and instead showed why the card is played for CEDH!
Yes you can. It doesn’t have hybrid black on the card. It’s in the reminder text. That means it’s not an orzhov card. See here for an example: scryfall.com/card/rvr/303/blind-obedience
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Comments saying ban nadu when a deck got to tutor twice , had barely any interaction thrown at it and won. If your cedh deck can’t do that it sucks lol
an article on the MTG website states that nadu orignally worked differnetly Nadu, Winged Wisdom 1GU Legendary Creature - Bird Wizard 3/4 Flying You may cast permanent spells as though they had flash. Whenever a permanent you control becomes the target of a spell or ability an opponent controls, reveal the top card of your library. If it's a land card, put it onto the battlefield. Otherwise, put it into your hand. but they changed it without playtesting
Damn I can't wait for Nadu to be banned. Unbelievably broken (and unplaytested). Tutor for a 3 cost results in essentially draw 8 ramp 2 immediately leading to combo win.
How long is this card conduit sponsorship for? Lmao Please stop inviting players that don't know how to mulligan... Nothing from the Nadu player or rogsi in 3 turns... Yeah... Sick 1 player game bro
Give people a reason to play green and suddenly they want it banned lol. Nadu is certainly a strong card, but a multi-card combo to replicate what an ad nauseam deck is doing is not banworthy from a cedh perspective.
Hell when the meta for Modern was basically Nadu or bust, it was back breaking in a 60 card format, in a 100 card format you can basically do whatever it wants as early as turn 3 with no repercussions at all. This was a mistake card that should have never been printed period and it was clearly designed for Commander and CEDH as a whole.
Implying that Ad naus is even worthy of being in the ban worthy discussions? Did you not see the Necropotence played here? If you're going to harp on Ad Naus why not Necropotence as well? Nadu's power level is fine. It isn't being played in every Simic deck, only ones that can make use of its effect. The problem is everything else wrong with it. Passed vanilla stat line test, nondeterministic solitaire turns, memory games, Legendary creature(!) etc.
@@RoseGoldenPetal apperantly this version of Nadu wasn't even playtested. the OG version was Nadu, Winged Wisdom 1GU Legendary Creature - Bird Wizard 3/4 Flying You may cast permanent spells as though they had flash. Whenever a permanent you control becomes the target of a spell or ability an opponent controls, reveal the top card of your library. If it's a land card, put it onto the battlefield. Otherwise, put it into your hand. but it didn't feel like "enough" for a build-around commander. so they made the version we know.... i personally think the story is BS but that's what you find in an articel on the MTG webside, called "On Banning Nadu, Winged Wisdom in Modern"
I refuse to believe the OG Nadu playtesters genuinely though giving permanents flash with a Thras trigger only when enemies target your things was broken. Nadu is proof that the RC doesn't truly care about the health of the format.
Nadu is a goddamn back breaking card, it needs a emergency ban in EDH period, the fact that you can just snowball of a few mana dorks or 1/1's with a single target effect is huge, I really hope the RC bans this card period and never unbans it.
they’re NOT fucking Nadu triggers and it boils my blood when people say “nadu triggers” no the fuck he doesn’t, Nadu only triggers when he himself is targeted. He gives the ability to all your creatures so each trigger is a triggered ability of that individual creature, not of Nadu
CALM. DOWN. It’s easier for narration to say it this way so people can follow along. Otherwise we would be flooded with comments wondering why a random creature is triggering. Believe it or not, we’ve done this video thing before.
Oh yeah, ban Nadu and all its bs. But why the heel you guys saw Sissay taps with with the Derevi player having 4 manas? A cedh game played without interaction isnt a cedh game.
"we we're worried that nadu was too good for commander so we made it the best legendary creature ever made instead"
Next level thinking right there
Let alone the fact that they broke multiple formats they also broke the one this card was designed for. What a disaster of a card
Hey, cut them some slack. They didn't play test it, and apparently the people play testing can't tell if a card is good by reading it.
Ragavan haters real quiet since Nadu dropped
@@juanchetumareragavan is still pushed but nadu felt like a drunken bet to see if they could redefine power creep lol
That was a crazy demonstration of secret Nadu commander
Andy's Nadu did more work than the actual commander Nadu😅
Sorry i had to go sonic speed for those nomads and nadu flips
I like the fact that there are no dead cards in the final combo. Sweet deck 👍
No clue what was in the hand that Nadu kept, but no play T1, surveil land T2, T3 was simply land pass into a Pognify when Wheel was cast. Seems like the hand needed to be better
Seems like Nadu and Rog/Si kept some strange hands. Would have definitely been interesting to know the thought process behind it.
You never let a secret commander Nadu deck play Sisay like that and not kill it instantly.
I'd like to see some data before we go banning a card, but man Nadu is just a crazy card. Has so much redundancy and is flexible AF. At a minimum it is a new top tier card/commander in CEDH.
I had a guy play Derevi with Nadu and Temeshi in the 99 as win cons and I thought he was crazy
I think letting the wheel resolve with Bowmasters would have been the best play. When Andy played Nomads en kor with Sisay out alarm bells should have been going off.
Spoilers!
Thought we were going to see yet another missed Pact trigger. Glad to see that wasn't the case and instead showed why the card is played for CEDH!
That was such a fun infinate loop at the end!
No game two? 😢
As a someone who has playing with Derevi since she has come out I always love it when she shows up in a video and even happier when she wins.
How come you aren't showing the starting hands anymore? It was very nice to see what everyone kept
Man, I was really rooting for derevi to win until I realized that IT WAS NADU IN A TRENCH COAT.
Interesting opening hands!
The face I made when the chord grabbed nadu.
Derevi had been popping off everywhere lately. Watch out
That was a hella spicy win!
The rog si do nothing hand dream
Spoiler :
Nadu wins the game, but not the Nadu you think based on the title.
Aw, I missed the opening hand analysis at the start
I hope see Niv mizzet parun soon 👌
Nadu doesn't need a ban, That wheel led to no interaction. Look at the Actual Nadu player doing nothing.
how can you play blind obedience in a derevi deck? it has hybrid black on it
Yes you can. It doesn’t have hybrid black on the card. It’s in the reminder text. That means it’s not an orzhov card. See here for an example: scryfall.com/card/rvr/303/blind-obedience
@@PlayingWithPowerMTG thank you, just a ruling I’m ignorant on
how did nadu trigger so many times when it says only twice
is it twice per creature bc i didnt see a blink for nadu
It is indeed twice per creature.
Can we please get that derevi deck list?
all decklists are always in their discriptions
@@dekina1198 For some reason not working when we click on link
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Yay
My boi Andy struggling with the mana crypt!
Need a cedh bird only pod
Comments saying ban nadu when a deck got to tutor twice , had barely any interaction thrown at it and won. If your cedh deck can’t do that it sucks lol
Derevi for the win, let's go
Now I see what Nadu was banned. Wow that card was powerful.
Two games?
Nadu is bonkers
Nadu is disgusting in Derevi. GG
But no, Nadu can't be the problem card. It must be nomads en-kor...
Haikyuu alt art Derevi. Neat
Ban Nadu from EDH just for the slowplay it causes. Boring card. WotC fucked up horrendously with this card.
Turn 2 bowmasters from rog💀 no wonder derevi won
Nice game. Extort for the win! ❤❤❤
Nadu makes playing solitaire fun!
Nadu was such a mistake lol
Holy cow that was so HOT
How sad is look a table playing no interactions
Yeah, ban Nadu lol. Even not as the commander. Either that, or errata Nadu to where only Nadu has the ability. I’ve played so many Nadu’s at LGS’s.
an article on the MTG website states that nadu orignally worked differnetly
Nadu, Winged Wisdom
1GU
Legendary Creature - Bird Wizard
3/4
Flying
You may cast permanent spells as though they had flash.
Whenever a permanent you control becomes the target of a spell or ability an opponent controls, reveal the top card of your library. If it's a land card, put it onto the battlefield. Otherwise, put it into your hand.
but they changed it without playtesting
Damn I can't wait for Nadu to be banned. Unbelievably broken (and unplaytested). Tutor for a 3 cost results in essentially draw 8 ramp 2 immediately leading to combo win.
How long is this card conduit sponsorship for? Lmao
Please stop inviting players that don't know how to mulligan... Nothing from the Nadu player or rogsi in 3 turns... Yeah... Sick 1 player game bro
I reckon a bowmaster into wheel and slamming a necropotence is something tho
Ban the bird. I hate it so much. It ruins games, wastes time, and is so boring to watch
Give people a reason to play green and suddenly they want it banned lol. Nadu is certainly a strong card, but a multi-card combo to replicate what an ad nauseam deck is doing is not banworthy from a cedh perspective.
You couldn't possibly be more obtuse that I'm pretty sure this comment is bait.
Hell when the meta for Modern was basically Nadu or bust, it was back breaking in a 60 card format, in a 100 card format you can basically do whatever it wants as early as turn 3 with no repercussions at all.
This was a mistake card that should have never been printed period and it was clearly designed for Commander and CEDH as a whole.
Implying that Ad naus is even worthy of being in the ban worthy discussions? Did you not see the Necropotence played here? If you're going to harp on Ad Naus why not Necropotence as well?
Nadu's power level is fine. It isn't being played in every Simic deck, only ones that can make use of its effect.
The problem is everything else wrong with it. Passed vanilla stat line test, nondeterministic solitaire turns, memory games, Legendary creature(!) etc.
@@RoseGoldenPetal apperantly this version of Nadu wasn't even playtested.
the OG version was
Nadu, Winged Wisdom
1GU
Legendary Creature - Bird Wizard
3/4
Flying
You may cast permanent spells as though they had flash.
Whenever a permanent you control becomes the target of a spell or ability an opponent controls, reveal the top card of your library. If it's a land card, put it onto the battlefield. Otherwise, put it into your hand.
but it didn't feel like "enough" for a build-around commander. so they made the version we know....
i personally think the story is BS but that's what you find in an articel on the MTG webside, called "On Banning Nadu, Winged Wisdom in Modern"
I refuse to believe the OG Nadu playtesters genuinely though giving permanents flash with a Thras trigger only when enemies target your things was broken.
Nadu is proof that the RC doesn't truly care about the health of the format.
Nadu is a goddamn back breaking card, it needs a emergency ban in EDH period, the fact that you can just snowball of a few mana dorks or 1/1's with a single target effect is huge, I really hope the RC bans this card period and never unbans it.
Ban Nadu in commander thank you bye 😅
I got some news for you 😊
@@bigtram5312 🤣
they’re NOT fucking Nadu triggers and it boils my blood when people say “nadu triggers” no the fuck he doesn’t, Nadu only triggers when he himself is targeted. He gives the ability to all your creatures so each trigger is a triggered ability of that individual creature, not of Nadu
CALM. DOWN.
It’s easier for narration to say it this way so people can follow along. Otherwise we would be flooded with comments wondering why a random creature is triggering. Believe it or not, we’ve done this video thing before.
@@PlayingWithPowerMTG no
Yeah Nadu needs a ban that's insane.
Oh yeah, ban Nadu and all its bs. But why the heel you guys saw Sissay taps with with the Derevi player having 4 manas? A cedh game played without interaction isnt a cedh game.
BAN NADU
LOL!
I get the translate message for your BAN NADU message and guess what it gets translated to? BANNED.