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  • @sb2261
    @sb2261 5 років тому +3

    I don't know why people are bashing this guy. He clearly states that witness's are not monuments. So he likely knows enough to at least setup over a monument and hold line on another if he's just staking a point on line for a visual reference to his property and doesn't set actual monuments there's nothing wrong with that. Also, for all the surveyors commenting, how do you know he's not doing a stadia Survey? Before EDM, people did survey like this.

  • @paulwilliams819
    @paulwilliams819 6 років тому +3

    OMG........Your helper, she is so darn adorable. A little distracted by the woodpecker.....lol.

    • @iasimov5960
      @iasimov5960 5 років тому +2

      I'm sure she has seen a lot of woodpeckers in her time.

  • @jkcantrell1
    @jkcantrell1 10 років тому +10

    Boundary with a level rod, enough said. I would lose my license for that. Please understand that they are not 'establishing corners" just finding them. Any method to find a corner is fair game, just please do not try to 'set' a corner using these methods. I'm willing to bet the number on the cap is the mark with the LS number of the surveyor that set it. On a side note, tell her to collapse the rode while she walks.

  • @garlandburnett8917
    @garlandburnett8917 11 років тому +12

    I have been a registered surveyor for a little over 40 years. This video is a laymans understanding and it really does not do our profession any good to leave crass and smart comments as land surveyors. I have talked to hundreds of land owners who thought they understood what a boundary survey is and find it better to educate and not denigrate.

  • @armorvestrus4119
    @armorvestrus4119 2 роки тому +1

    She has the attention span of a cute little puppy.

  • @tcjohnson3437
    @tcjohnson3437 7 років тому +5

    The # on the cap is the surveyors RPLS #. Basically its their license #.

  • @mclrk
    @mclrk 11 років тому +1

    Good luck winning that one. If four different surveyors located the corner if four different spots, then it is pretty clear that you don't know where your property line is. Before you rely on any one corner, you should have the four surveyors (or at least the ones still alive) share their information with each other and come to an agreement as to the best location for the corner.

  • @mlharnett
    @mlharnett 11 років тому +1

    Not bad. They were just marking the lines with paint. The man sounded like he's been on the crew. I enjoyed it.

  • @mclrk
    @mclrk 11 років тому +1

    Correct. The number on the yellow plastic cap is the surveyor's license number.

  • @flanksteak2
    @flanksteak2 11 років тому +7

    How is it a fail? All he did was trace a straight line between the two professionally set surveyor stakes, yes?

    • @s1ight
      @s1ight 4 роки тому +1

      Land surveyors are a toxic bunch. They have one of the best jobs in world yet never seem happy and love condescending to others.

  • @bassbone52
    @bassbone52 8 років тому +5

    One of the first things you learn while surveying is to never grab the bottom end of a level rod with your bare hands. Surveyors will understand.
    And that chick could be my rodman anytime.

    • @tubedude54
      @tubedude54 8 років тому +1

      Yep! That's the 'shitty' end of the rod lol!! Same with tripods! Always grab the head... not the feet.

    • @cbgmichael9535
      @cbgmichael9535 7 років тому +1

      bassbone52 the shit stick well that's what I call it

    • @tommytruth7595
      @tommytruth7595 7 років тому

      Make that rodperson, bassbone.

  • @flanksteak2
    @flanksteak2 11 років тому +1

    It's really quite easy to look at a plat map and figure things out. The key for the layperson is to check measurements using multiple surveyor stakes that have already been set on adjacents lots and of course concrete monuments.
    GIS services that counties have make it really easy. I found one of my orginal stakes at a recreational property by using the GIS with a satellite photo and measuring tools in garmin software (like google but you can upload the data onto your GPS).

  • @rogersjobfimie153
    @rogersjobfimie153 7 років тому

    surveying is a great profession. it requires care and principles must be obeyed.

  • @deathmarch5
    @deathmarch5 11 років тому

    Interestingly enough your correct for about 98% of every county in america some rare examples of not needing a building permit would be boundary county Idaho. I took a 40 hour class on surveying in the carpentry union some years back I learned the most important part of surveying is the recording of numbers in the right column and recording the numbers accurately.

  • @mclrk
    @mclrk 11 років тому +1

    An example would be where the surveyor cant get a monument in the ground at the true corner; for example, a tree is on the corner, or a big rock. In my subdivision, common utility boxes (such as water-meter & telephone) are at the location of the true corner. I just did a survey where I found a property corner off by about 2 feet; rather than remove the corner, I filed a record-of-survey showing it as a withness monument. That way the crook that moved it can go on thinking he fooled someon.

  • @TheHikingnut
    @TheHikingnut 11 років тому +1

    Woodpecker!!! is the new "Squirrel"

  • @montanaboy-hx2ve
    @montanaboy-hx2ve 10 років тому +6

    OMG!! I can see their property line weaving on the map now......It was that "Woodpecker" that was at fault!! LOL

  • @mclrk
    @mclrk 11 років тому

    Yes. For example, my property corner monuments are called "witness monuments". They are placed ten feet from the actual property corner. If I were to build a fence using these monuments (as you did in your video), I would end up building ten feet into the public right-of-way.

  • @tigerking2179
    @tigerking2179 11 років тому +8

    I am trying to learn about surveying and I think this video just fried some of my brain cells. I think I just learned how not to do it. But she was really hot and she likes to look at woodpeckers!!!

  • @mclrk
    @mclrk 11 років тому

    No not "about right"; exactly right. The proper way to construct anything is to have a surveyor give you construction stakes to build off of. Which monuments of record he chooses to use as control is sometimes a difficult judgement call; sometimes not. Depending on many factors one of which is how long ago your "recorded survey" was completed.

  • @TNTBuildsWA
    @TNTBuildsWA  12 років тому

    That's about right. They perform survey work for the person that pays them and they certify their work just to the people that pay them. I'm the bald guy in the video and if you go to one of our property corners you will see 4 different capped rebars from 4 different surveyors who identified the corner in 4 different places. I go off of the one that my surveyor stuck in the ground for me, because if I had to take down a fence because it was over the line, he's the one I'd sue.

  • @flanksteak2
    @flanksteak2 12 років тому

    And of course the fact that you can check placement of the stake against multiple sources such as simple measuring from a known monument, other property lines, county GIS sources ad nauseum.

  • @taurinenrgy
    @taurinenrgy 10 років тому +4

    That look on her face - I don't know what I'm doing but, o well.

  • @hurleyinnh
    @hurleyinnh 10 років тому +1

    Well that was fun, thank you!

  • @zebster05
    @zebster05 11 років тому

    Very true. Most counties have a set back ordinance.

  • @flanksteak2
    @flanksteak2 12 років тому

    A recorded survey would have checked the accuracy of the monuments. I would look at the date of the survey and then check the condition of the monument itself and check the condition of the dirt around around the monument to see if it had been tampered with. Assuming all looked good, I would give the benefit of the doubt to the monument vs my 100' vinyl Home Depot measuring tape.
    And of course check the distance to other stakes on the property and others as well.

  • @flanksteak2
    @flanksteak2 11 років тому

    FYI, a Deed for a property I purchased says plat "X" filed with the county, page "XX" record of plats.
    It has no measurements.

  • @MEGAONE302
    @MEGAONE302 12 років тому

    When to bend... Nice, you're the man with the plan.

  • @sharonmurphy899
    @sharonmurphy899 3 роки тому

    My neighbor moved the medal marker, then had his property surveyed. I tried to get the surveyed that he used to come back out, something always turns up at the last minute, where do I start. I lost about two acres.

  • @tigertruckerman
    @tigertruckerman 11 років тому +2

    she is cuteeeeeee

  • @mclrk
    @mclrk 11 років тому

    Did you research a recent title report before doing this. An accurate title report will reveal information about your property that is not on your subdivision map. For example, how do you know that a previous owner did not do a lot-line-adjustment? Or, how would you know if a portion of the property was dedicated to the public right-of-way? Or a utility easement recorded after the subdivision map?

  • @flanksteak2
    @flanksteak2 12 років тому

    The pin that the surveyor set on the corner and marked as such on the cap might not be marking the corner?

  • @BacktonaturelivingCom
    @BacktonaturelivingCom 11 років тому +1

    You know...UA-cam is the perfect place to speak crap about anyone, and everything. Of course, this type of surveying would not hold legally... I think all they want to know is roughly where the property line is between two points. Have the same issue on our property, except there are a lot of trees in between, and it is not that easy to do.

  • @qballusajasondavis7923
    @qballusajasondavis7923 4 роки тому +1

    I wanna know how all these cute girls get stuck with guys that don't know plumb from level 😂

  • @paulhenson645
    @paulhenson645 10 років тому +1

    So what would you do if it was too far to see between the corners or an object was in the way (tree, fence, hill, etc.)?

    • @KewlCrayon
      @KewlCrayon 7 років тому +1

      Spend $20,000-$100,000 buying a total station and use GPS.
      Or pay the $300 to hire a surveyor.

    • @ForgingFreedomTV
      @ForgingFreedomTV 6 років тому

      KewlCrayon Yeah I’m sure that’s how George Washington did it in 1749 at the age of 17. What a smart ass. People are trying to learn basic skills #You’reNotHelping

  • @mclrk
    @mclrk 12 років тому

    Ok...so you're laying out one of the lines on your property? Assuming the two monuments you found are record monuments as described on the subdivision map I assume you have. Did you measure the distance between the two monuments? How close is that distance to the distance shown on your map? So let's say the map says 400ft and you measure 400.67ft. Are you going to accept the monuments as accurate?

  • @flanksteak2
    @flanksteak2 11 років тому +1

    I found a lot line recently surveyed 380 feet away on one end and an old rusty marker on another. I measure and marked the one end by pulling off the corner the surveyor set.
    I then marked by line with a GPS and line of site along 850' feet.
    The neighbor freaked and paid a surveyor 2500.00 to come and do a boundary survey.
    I was off by 2 inches. LOL

  • @mclrk
    @mclrk 12 років тому

    People shouldn't reference the pins to determine their "property line." The pins are for use by SURVEYORS to determine where your boundary line is. For example, that pin might not be coincident with the property corner.

  • @mlharnett
    @mlharnett 11 років тому

    The local surveyor can find out where you can build a fence by looking at the local regulations. You can't just build a fence wherever you want. You need a permit man. Have your local surveyor mark your proposed fence according to local regulations.

  • @QuartzCachers
    @QuartzCachers 12 років тому +1

    Surely, this is a joke. This could be entitled " How NOT to Survey Your Deed Line". Leave this to the professionals, please.

  • @ericcross4166
    @ericcross4166 4 роки тому

    This guy probably worked for a surveying firm as a rodman for about a week before he probably got fired. So many things incorrect with this my personal favorite is the cap number corresponds with the plat. My advise as a surveyor of 25 years this is NOT a DIY project. And just my opinion if you think a surveyor is expensive just remember a bad surveyor will cost more in the long run!

  • @flanksteak2
    @flanksteak2 11 років тому

    What situation are witness monuments used wherein you could place a fence? My ocean property has witness corners but it's clearly marked on my survey as such coupled with the fact that I can't put a fence on the beach.
    What is it about your situation that required the use of witness corners?

  • @mclrk
    @mclrk 12 років тому

    Yes. The number on the cap is his license number...not the number on the map. A monument is only accepted as the corner after research of ALL the record data, and after surveying ALL of your corners. How do you know it wasn't moved?

  • @flanksteak2
    @flanksteak2 11 років тому +1

    Good evening. This isn't my video and I think you are replying to responses to other posters.
    At any rate, rural settings such as this don't require the accuracy you're portending. If I find a stake and can verify that it is "close" using my deed, GIS sources and plat map (filed with county) then that's what I'll use.
    A few inches is irrelevant.
    I can understand you trying to upsell and value your work. If a previous surveyor already marked the property theres no reason to resurvey

  • @someonespadre
    @someonespadre 12 років тому

    A stick what broke off of the tree. Rod is the long skinny thing with numbers on it that looks like a giant ruler. IT'S A ROD, NOT A STICK!!!

  • @flanksteak2
    @flanksteak2 12 років тому

    How far apart were the stakes?

  • @melindaizzo4098
    @melindaizzo4098 8 років тому +14

    Only a Licensed Surveyor can mark out a property line. What up with using a level rod. There are so many things wrong with what they're doing. SMH

  • @someonespadre
    @someonespadre 12 років тому

    shhhh-this guy is the full employment act for the neighbor's attorney. Then his attorney will tell him his case is a "slam dunk." Lots of money for expert witnesses heh heh heh.

  • @mauricebarhoum7330
    @mauricebarhoum7330 11 місяців тому

    @ 1.33 HE ASK GIRL TO HOLD LEVEL OR PLUMB . TECHNICALLY IS THERE A DIFFERECE .?? OK I UNDERSTAND WHAT HE MEANS . BUT AS A SURVEYOR . JUST THINKING .😊😊 😊😊😊

  • @6stringdb
    @6stringdb 9 років тому +6

    ..and that number corresponds with the number on your plat map...I'm outta here on that one.

  • @flanksteak2
    @flanksteak2 12 років тому

    Isn't all that researched before placement of the stake marking the corner?
    I don't think "Lot 5" is the license number of the surveyor.

  • @500label
    @500label 12 років тому

    now surveying is very easy with every means

  • @deanmurray4953
    @deanmurray4953 6 років тому

    Surveyors can't survey ,bankers can't count,bakers can't bake

  • @robbobcat7286
    @robbobcat7286 7 років тому +3

    attention span of a nat

    • @KutWrite
      @KutWrite 5 років тому

      ...but so cute!

  • @ahmednour3405
    @ahmednour3405 8 років тому

    hhhh good

  • @TheDrSLEEZY
    @TheDrSLEEZY 13 років тому

    i want her to help me!!! I get a old man... :(

  • @johnnelson8956
    @johnnelson8956 7 років тому +4

    I wonder if she has blond roots

  • @zackattack1384
    @zackattack1384 12 років тому

    I guess they do not realize how liable the surveyor actually is for even being a couple inches off. We had a guy survey before we put up a fence, he was off, so my fence ended up on my neighbors yard. The surveyer had to pay to have the fence torn down, and had to pay for a new fence. Atleast it happens this way in ohio, i dont know about everywhere else. Probably wouldnt have happend that way if my neighbor wasnt such a penis.

  • @neogovernment
    @neogovernment 11 років тому +1

    Holding it level? Doesn't he mean 'Plumb"?

    • @ThatCritique
      @ThatCritique 4 роки тому

      Yes, He should have asked the lovely young lady to hold the rod plumb as possible and there are some technics to do this.

  • @zebster05
    @zebster05 11 років тому

    All he is saying is make sure you are on the corner. Not all corners are monumented. When corners are not monumented, witnesses are set as a refrence. Usually a witness is set on line but not necassery at the corner.

  • @flanksteak2
    @flanksteak2 12 років тому

    What you are saying is that I cannot trust a recorded survey or marks placed on the ground by surveyors unless I call you up and have you personally check their work.
    That about right?
    If that's not what you are saying, exactly what are you saying?

  • @Wsldbrd1
    @Wsldbrd1 3 роки тому

    don't people know the difference between level and plumb?

  • @zebster05
    @zebster05 11 років тому

    In the practice of surveying these are called pin cushion corners, and never should happen in my opinion.

  • @michaelbarefoot188
    @michaelbarefoot188 12 років тому

    why do people that have little or no experience with survey field work so eager to make these videos? They do give me lots of entertainment though so o guess they are of some use.lol

  • @rkansas1
    @rkansas1 12 років тому

    @emildbbcg U mean chainlady?Right?haha jk...

  • @someonespadre
    @someonespadre 12 років тому

    Why is she holding it plumb when he tells her to hold it level?

  • @villacoya
    @villacoya 8 років тому

    plumb? what is that?

    • @tommytruth7595
      @tommytruth7595 7 років тому

      It is a fruit for sale at the grocery store.

  • @TexasCCRN
    @TexasCCRN 10 років тому

    Was this a commercial for so

  • @joeblowjohnny2297
    @joeblowjohnny2297 5 років тому

    This woman is very unprofessional and the f_cking wood pecker too !

  • @THEGAME-tz6yu
    @THEGAME-tz6yu 2 роки тому

    why do women get distracted?

  • @ebernall
    @ebernall 12 років тому

    she is not holding it level. Why is he using an elevation rod????

  • @flanksteak2
    @flanksteak2 11 років тому +1

    No seriously though, why on earth would you claim a reasonably intelligent layperson isn't capable of siting between two professionally set surveyor stakes and then marking the line in between?
    You a sophist? As if the tools and tecniques employed by surveyors are some big mystery that nobody except a surveyor could possibly figure out right?

  • @PhillyTheBlunt
    @PhillyTheBlunt 11 років тому

    Did he now? Using a level? Was he set over a traverse point or even set on the property corner? Trace? Are we five playing with toys that we trace things? Inches? Do surveyors use inches? No, sorry bud. We use tenths and hundredths and thousandths. This video is nonsense and I'm surprised it hasn't been taken down for shame.

  • @michaelrouth5423
    @michaelrouth5423 11 років тому

    you don't even know if what your coming off of is correct or the year it was surveyed. the monumentation could be off. you always shoot your corners and your your neighbors to ensure accuracy. and ive never used a level rod for boundary work, or a level. that's so inaccurate

  • @HankGrill
    @HankGrill 6 років тому

    WTF you don't "locate" property corners with a level rod. LOL. What are you even trying to do?

  • @julier1080
    @julier1080 10 років тому +4

    Okay, granted it's a pretty useless video, but I find it hilarious how up in arms all the (laid off?) surveyors get about this stuff.
    Obviously, despite the title, you are NOT surveying anything. You are simply finding a straight line between 2 points. And without a dead vertical rod (why not use a plumb line??) it wouldn't even be all that straight. Regardless, people do this stuff all the time, using nothing more complicated than a long string.
    I think the surveyors get pissed because they know their time is limited. GIS/GPS are fast making the surveyor's job obsolete. For a couple hundred bucks anyone can go to Walmart and buy a Garmin and find any point in the developed United States. No, you can't technically 'survey' your property, but you can find the coordinates and then the corners and then the lines. Used to be every time you bought property it got re-surveyed, job security huh? Now everything is recorded, so other than people moving monuments, what's the point? And if your neighbor is such a douchebag that a fence 2" off is a problem, you don't really want to live next door anyway do you?

    • @Krankmessiah
      @Krankmessiah 9 років тому +5

      Im a surveyor.. i work in the field by myself. My job is nowhere near obsolete... all these people are doing is locating corners.. lol. Are the surveyors where you live becoming obsolete? No topographical surveys? No construction staking/hub an tacking? Yea it might be obsolete if your a "surveyor" that just locates corners lmao

    • @Krankmessiah
      @Krankmessiah 9 років тому +5

      Absolutely clueless... how are you gonna find out if your house is encroaching on a property line or a building line? Or if your property corners arent where they're supposed to be? Pull string and use a garmin gps??? Lmao maybe pull tape? Surveyors tie in everything!!! Power poles.. driveways.. drain pipes.. telephone pedestals.. water meters.. house corners.. fences.. everything.. home owners or property owners cant do that with plat maps and a handheld garmin gps. Lmao wow

    • @julier1080
      @julier1080 9 років тому +1

      Krankmessiah
      Absolutely CAN do it with a plat map and Garmin, I just did 3 properties that way, based on surveyed subdivision maps. I found all property lines, so I DO know if the house is encroaching or not. You sound defensive like all the surveyors I know! lol
      Some will have jobs forever, doing mundane stuff, new subdivisions, etc. but overall it's a vanishing profession that's not needed 80% as much as it used to be.

    • @kaosbc
      @kaosbc 9 років тому +2

      Krankmessiah yes..regardless.. people will always argue over property lines..markers will get destroyed and deteriorated.. fences will always need installed.. mortgage surveys will always need done...new parcels will always need split off...logging will continue to be done..new housing sub-divisions will always need laid out.. flood certificates will always need granted..blah blah blah.. property surveying isn't going anywhere anytime soon... but in some areas this simply wont put enough money in the bank at all times.. probably especially if you do not work in the Old Seven Ranges like me, its not exactly straight and square like intended due to many variables like hills, erosion, and not to mention strip mining which has been laying waste to large swaths of land for decades.. there are literally "pin-cushions" of markers in some places, then you look a littler harder and you find an original stone that no one else bothered to look for.. many times a surveyor will come in and completely ignore evidence of occupation and try to straighten a line thats been that way for a 150 years and end up being 50 -100 ft off, this may put a 150 year old farm house on another parcel.. I know of one case a company came in from out of the area and ended up 383 feet off!! so there are always disputes between landowners and surveyors alike... so if problems like that are not big in your area.. theres 3d scanning.. topographical.. construction layout.. setting up GPS machine control systems for heavy equipment.. there no shortage of work here to say the least.

    • @julier1080
      @julier1080 9 років тому

      KaosBC
      While all of your points are quite valid, it remains to be seen how many jobs are displaced by technology. A lot of survey work can now be done by satellite, it's a matter of time before that technology takes over. Interesting you mention surveyors screwing up lines, yet another reason their jobs become obsolete, when GIS/GPS is constantly accurate. Once all the data is in the system, human error is largely removed.

  • @greghalford2617
    @greghalford2617 3 роки тому

    I learned nothing a huge waste of time

  • @JohnCoctoasten85
    @JohnCoctoasten85 6 років тому

    What a joke. lol

  • @PhillyTheBlunt
    @PhillyTheBlunt 11 років тому

    As a land surveyor and a human, don't ever do this again. That video was an utter fail in every sense of the term. I need a shower now...