I think these YZ's look incredible even in stock form, love the Renthals on there too. I'm on a GasGas 250 smoker but have been keeping my eyes on these FX bikes for the AZ desert I ride.
I'm almost 60 years old. I'm new to riding. I bought my first bike, a 2022 KTM 150 XC-W TPI, and before my last trip to HIghland Park Resort, it had 30 hours on it. Half of those hours were 5 hare scramble races in Florida. I picked the KTM 150 because of how light it is and knew that I'd be picking it up alot. If I road Highland Park all the time, I would be perfectly happy keeping my bike but my bike seems to be at a disadvantage in the straigh-aways and woops. I've been looking at the YZ250FZ as my "Last Bike", that is, unless I find myself racing past 65 years old. Is this a good "Old Guy" bike as you see it? I'm 5'8" 175 lbs.
can't wait to get some seat time this weekend on my 25 wr250. good review on the fx. very similar bike. i wish the wr had the unlocked ecu. i'll definitely be upgrading that on mine once yamaha has the competition one available.
The main thing with the newer YZs is they went to a trampoline/Leaf Spring style Midvalve setup, Which I've noticed with mine No matter how many times I've had mine simply revalved I never got it to where I needed it. I've since went to a Racetech Gold Valve Setup, For base valves and midvalves, It took it back to a traditional Sprung midvalve and now the fork actually feels like it takes the big hits without beating me up, and staying decently firm with good holdup.
I’ve got the 2023 WR 250F FULLY UNCORKED WITH THE COMPETITION ECU AND THE CCU it’s the exact same bike except I’ve got lights get an exhaust and the bike is fast and hits hard , I’ve got use to the clutch I’m studding up my tires right now for some winter riding with the I-grip studs the 20mm and the 18mm ones .
im glad yamaha are making the right steps on this model i had a go on the 2019 model and it was no power at all im glad they have finally sorted this out its a great bike and it really does take my fancy but just a few things i wish they would sort them out finally they are
I would advise against the MAGURA. I tried it. 3 issues. 1. It's literally no easier to pull. And I even added the midwest easy pull lever to it. 2. Very difficult to adjust and get in the sweet spot. It's actually just a hydraulic cable, so it does need to be adjusted when the clutch gets hot or you'll be slipping and it requires wrenches. Hard to get it right and also have the lever distance where I like it. Unlike the KTM true hydro. #3. It mounts 1" off the header and I cooked mine during race practice. Fluid all over and no clutch at all. 4 miles in deep woods single track. Had to use the starter to do a 1st gear roll and try not to touch brakes and stall for 4 miles. I threw that damn thing in the trash..huge waste of money. Just run a ASV PRO F4 OR F6 perch and roll it forward when you feel a little fade. But I feel like it doesn't do it once the plates are broken in like it did when it was new. Swap out the cable with a motion pro after a while and lube it regularly with the motion pro lube kit.
you seem knowledgable about dirtbike performance and I appreciate how you explain the particular upgrades/gripes that are mainly just rider preference. As someone who wants to learn more I subbed. keep grinding bro.
I have a 2021 250fx and I really love it, it has 280 hours now and I haven't even adjusted the valves and runs great, no problems at all, I'm really thinking about selling it and buying a brand new 2025, do you know if there are any differences between a 2021 and 2025, one thing that I specifically like to know is the suspension, is it stiffer or softer then the 21, should I try it or you think is the same, what's your opinion, thanks.
Hey there mate Brett from down under sounds like we are about the same height. Awaiting the arrival of my 25 250f which should be ready in a couple of days. Just wondering if you thought about lowering the rear suspension at all or did you just do the front and SAG. Interested in your thoughts, thanks for the vids Regards Brett.
@alexgreenslade5265 keeping stock height my sag is set around 106 and I like running my Forks a little bit higher up in the clamp because of the feeling characteristics in tight sections. But make sure anytime adjusting your fork height check your sag afterwards 🤙
is there any difference between this one and the 2020-2021 model riding feel and riding overall? ive been looking into this model but i heard extremely good things about the 20' model the riding seemed to be super good, im a little scared that they went down in riding quality. what do you think?
For a guy who rides 90% hare scramble type riding would you take this, Honda factory or 250rx? I’m on a 2019 250rx now, got a red moto tank coming and over all I like it but another season I’ll be ready to sell it. I hate the stock fuel tank and would like more bottom end. I’ve ridden a 2024 ktm 250 moto bike. They rip and are easy to ride. You’ll like it.
I've had the 25 crf 250rx handled pretty good but it is an ugly sob with that muffin tank lol the Honda Works Edition is also great but it need to be set up properly I think it would be too nice of a bike to thrash in the woods I'd take the Yamaha out of those 3 bikes.. if you look back in some of my older videos You'll see the 25 250 RX
@@Moto619films dude the tank is awful lol, I'm hoping they just ditch the stupid tank and I'd get another but yeah I'm leaning Yamaha if they don't. like you said the works is dope but I don't really want to change anything but the basics like bars and tires. appreciate it I'll check those vids out.
Serious question, I’ve been eyeballing the 2025 250 fx, unfortunately haven’t had any around me to check out lately. ( Lexington NC ). Very curious what you were able to get that one for out the door, up to you if you are comfortable answering that. Just genuinely curious what they run for out the door since I haven’t had the chance to go look at one yet. Thanks in advance.
Any issues with flame outs in the slower technical sections? I'm currently on an XC250 smoker, almost impossible to stall, but am considering one of these Yamaha's. Vids are great, good audio, keep it up!
Thx and no stalling issues I've put it in some tight stuff if you look back at some of my other videos it won't look like a 250 or 300 smoker but I'm impressed with how slow i can lug it. They do make a gytr flywheel for this bike it's a little pricey at 300 but I'm tempted to try it
Couple questions....Do people give you slack for having bars so high? I'm 5'7" as well but......I have a tall torso (sitting on a bench I'm just as tall as someone 5'10" or so. I have a short 28" inseam). I have a 2023 KTM SK-F 350 that (as you said) is INSANELY GREAT! Being short, I have trouble touching and fall MUCH more than I would if I could touch. Do you have trouble getting on and off the bike and with touching the ground? Also, I have the Reed Windham (603) fatbar at 98mm tall and I love it.....and your bar is even taller at 104mm. I don't like bars that feel like they are on my thighs. Also, Deegan runs a 92mm bar and his mechanic adds a 100 riser and he's barely 5'9". My advice......go back to KTM!!! LMAO J/K. It is crazy that you cannot put a new brake tip on. I put the EE extended one and love. Just sticks out a touch more than stock.
I can't flat foot or Tippy toe on each side I have to lean over to one side lol short legs the bars feel pretty good to me I've been running them for a couple years now and I have them cut down 5 ml on each side I do want to try McGrath Bend next
Just take it to Factory Connection for suspension and be done Bro. Screw trial and error. $1200 but the Blue Cross deductible is up to $5000 now. This is way more priority than a $700 exhaust on a bike that has plenty of power as you said. Ship to FC Oklahoma or your nearest. Trust me.
I've used Factory Connection a few tomes and they do great work but I do have a local suspension guy 20 minutes away from me that I will be using rather than shipping and waiting etc
@@Moto619films Yeah, as long as you get the right front and rear springs for your weight, I don't think you can go wrong with KYB. Regardless of who does it.
That's a sweet bike too basically the same as this one just a 450 it's definitely more manageable than the 450 motocross bike but it's still a handful in real tight situations just depends on what type of riding you do. If I was in an hour-long race I think I'd be worn out on a 450
Did you use the clickers on the KYB ? why wouldn't you mention that , i think your used to WP shite stock before the cartridge fix on those WP things , the clickers actually have a great range on the SSS KYB . KTM are crap you dont know a good stock bike clearly . Are he we go he is banging on about the cable clutch now , who is this bloke . Cable has more range dribble on your chin .
I’ve been waiting for this bike to come out for a year (ever since last year 450fx updates were announced and stated 250 would be updated 2025). Now that it is, I’m really struggling with buying this or buying a 2025 ktm xcf factory Edition, especially after hearing about your dissatisfaction with the KYB suspension. I’d prefer to not have to tinker other than clickers. Thanks for the review and update!
I think these YZ's look incredible even in stock form, love the Renthals on there too. I'm on a GasGas 250 smoker but have been keeping my eyes on these FX bikes for the AZ desert I ride.
I am in southern az my self, just got a 2025 wr250 . Its on my channel.
I have a 2023 and it is unbelievable how good they are out of the box
Love your videos! Love to see you compare this bike to a 2025 KTM 250xcf.
@PeggyPeters-c1o i may have one soon I'm looking for a 25
I'm almost 60 years old. I'm new to riding. I bought my first bike, a 2022 KTM 150 XC-W TPI, and before my last trip to HIghland Park Resort, it had 30 hours on it. Half of those hours were 5 hare scramble races in Florida. I picked the KTM 150 because of how light it is and knew that I'd be picking it up alot. If I road Highland Park all the time, I would be perfectly happy keeping my bike but my bike seems to be at a disadvantage in the straigh-aways and woops. I've been looking at the YZ250FZ as my "Last Bike", that is, unless I find myself racing past 65 years old. Is this a good "Old Guy" bike as you see it? I'm 5'8" 175 lbs.
Nice review. I agree on the rear brake pedal. I put a Tusk rear brake pedal on my 450 with a foldable tip after crushing it during a crash.
can't wait to get some seat time this weekend on my 25 wr250. good review on the fx. very similar bike. i wish the wr had the unlocked ecu. i'll definitely be upgrading that on mine once yamaha has the competition one available.
The main thing with the newer YZs is they went to a trampoline/Leaf Spring style Midvalve setup, Which I've noticed with mine No matter how many times I've had mine simply revalved I never got it to where I needed it. I've since went to a Racetech Gold Valve Setup, For base valves and midvalves, It took it back to a traditional Sprung midvalve and now the fork actually feels like it takes the big hits without beating me up, and staying decently firm with good holdup.
I've never tried gold valves I definitely should try them
I’ve got the 2023 WR 250F FULLY UNCORKED WITH THE COMPETITION ECU AND THE CCU it’s the exact same bike except I’ve got lights get an exhaust and the bike is fast and hits hard , I’ve got use to the clutch I’m studding up my tires right now for some winter riding with the I-grip studs the 20mm and the 18mm ones .
Cool bike I love the stock look !!!!
Love to hear what ya think of the 25 ktm 250xcf vs.this bike.. tnx.
im glad yamaha are making the right steps on this model i had a go on the 2019 model and it was no power at all im glad they have finally sorted this out its a great bike and it really does take my fancy but just a few things i wish they would sort them out finally they are
I would advise against the MAGURA. I tried it. 3 issues. 1. It's literally no easier to pull. And I even added the midwest easy pull lever to it. 2. Very difficult to adjust and get in the sweet spot. It's actually just a hydraulic cable, so it does need to be adjusted when the clutch gets hot or you'll be slipping and it requires wrenches. Hard to get it right and also have the lever distance where I like it. Unlike the KTM true hydro. #3. It mounts 1" off the header and I cooked mine during race practice. Fluid all over and no clutch at all. 4 miles in deep woods single track. Had to use the starter to do a 1st gear roll and try not to touch brakes and stall for 4 miles. I threw that damn thing in the trash..huge waste of money. Just run a ASV PRO F4 OR F6 perch and roll it forward when you feel a little fade. But I feel like it doesn't do it once the plates are broken in like it did when it was new. Swap out the cable with a motion pro after a while and lube it regularly with the motion pro lube kit.
Good to know thanks for saving me 300$😅
you seem knowledgable about dirtbike performance and I appreciate how you explain the particular upgrades/gripes that are mainly just rider preference. As someone who wants to learn more I subbed. keep grinding bro.
Appreciate this comment
I have a 2021 250fx and I really love it, it has 280 hours now and I haven't even adjusted the valves and runs great, no problems at all, I'm really thinking about selling it and buying a brand new 2025, do you know if there are any differences between a 2021 and 2025, one thing that I specifically like to know is the suspension, is it stiffer or softer then the 21, should I try it or you think is the same, what's your opinion, thanks.
@matiasmaldonado510 25 is all new bike suspension on 21 might be a little bit softer
Hey there mate
Brett from down under sounds like we are about the same height.
Awaiting the arrival of my 25 250f which should be ready in a couple of days.
Just wondering if you thought about lowering the rear suspension at all or did you just do the front and SAG. Interested in your thoughts, thanks for the vids
Regards Brett.
@alexgreenslade5265 keeping stock height my sag is set around 106 and I like running my Forks a little bit higher up in the clamp because of the feeling characteristics in tight sections. But make sure anytime adjusting your fork height check your sag afterwards 🤙
Get the xcf250 and do a back to back. I've a 24 gg ex250f and with the cuo to tune out the engine braking and the new spring fork i think its great!
Have you tried a 23/24/25 yz250x by chance?
“A knife through hot butter ”
Or a hot knife through cold butter both work 😂
I’m 150 pounds and my suspension guy actually put stiffer fork springs in it and then revalved it and it feels softer
is there any difference between this one and the 2020-2021 model riding feel and riding overall? ive been looking into this model but i heard extremely good things about the 20' model the riding seemed to be super good, im a little scared that they went down in riding quality. what do you think?
This model is really good no issues I've ridden a 22 and I think this model handles much better faster steering etc
For a guy who rides 90% hare scramble type riding would you take this, Honda factory or 250rx?
I’m on a 2019 250rx now, got a red moto tank coming and over all I like it but another season I’ll be ready to sell it. I hate the stock fuel tank and would like more bottom end.
I’ve ridden a 2024 ktm 250 moto bike. They rip and are easy to ride. You’ll like it.
I've had the 25 crf 250rx handled pretty good but it is an ugly sob with that muffin tank lol the Honda Works Edition is also great but it need to be set up properly I think it would be too nice of a bike to thrash in the woods I'd take the Yamaha out of those 3 bikes.. if you look back in some of my older videos You'll see the 25 250 RX
@@Moto619films dude the tank is awful lol, I'm hoping they just ditch the stupid tank and I'd get another but yeah I'm leaning Yamaha if they don't. like you said the works is dope but I don't really want to change anything but the basics like bars and tires. appreciate it I'll check those vids out.
cable clutch is best!!
Serious question, I’ve been eyeballing the 2025 250 fx, unfortunately haven’t had any around me to check out lately. ( Lexington NC ). Very curious what you were able to get that one for out the door, up to you if you are comfortable answering that. Just genuinely curious what they run for out the door since I haven’t had the chance to go look at one yet. Thanks in advance.
9400 pretty good deal
Any issues with flame outs in the slower technical sections? I'm currently on an XC250 smoker, almost impossible to stall, but am considering one of these Yamaha's. Vids are great, good audio, keep it up!
Thx and no stalling issues I've put it in some tight stuff if you look back at some of my other videos it won't look like a 250 or 300 smoker but I'm impressed with how slow i can lug it. They do make a gytr flywheel for this bike it's a little pricey at 300 but I'm tempted to try it
How does this compare to the Honda 250 factory edition?
Can't go wrong with the Honda we at the price point . For all around riding I'm taking the fx. if I only did motocross the honda we 250
Race tech gold valve kit front and rear plus correct spring rate = plush
Couple questions....Do people give you slack for having bars so high? I'm 5'7" as well but......I have a tall torso (sitting on a bench I'm just as tall as someone 5'10" or so. I have a short 28" inseam). I have a 2023 KTM SK-F 350 that (as you said) is INSANELY GREAT! Being short, I have trouble touching and fall MUCH more than I would if I could touch. Do you have trouble getting on and off the bike and with touching the ground? Also, I have the Reed Windham (603) fatbar at 98mm tall and I love it.....and your bar is even taller at 104mm. I don't like bars that feel like they are on my thighs. Also, Deegan runs a 92mm bar and his mechanic adds a 100 riser and he's barely 5'9".
My advice......go back to KTM!!! LMAO J/K. It is crazy that you cannot put a new brake tip on. I put the EE extended one and love. Just sticks out a touch more than stock.
I can't flat foot or Tippy toe on each side I have to lean over to one side lol short legs the bars feel pretty good to me I've been running them for a couple years now and I have them cut down 5 ml on each side I do want to try McGrath Bend next
Just take it to Factory Connection for suspension and be done Bro. Screw trial and error. $1200 but the Blue Cross deductible is up to $5000 now. This is way more priority than a $700 exhaust on a bike that has plenty of power as you said. Ship to FC Oklahoma or your nearest. Trust me.
I've used Factory Connection a few tomes and they do great work but I do have a local suspension guy 20 minutes away from me that I will be using rather than shipping and waiting etc
@@Moto619films Yeah, as long as you get the right front and rear springs for your weight, I don't think you can go wrong with KYB. Regardless of who does it.
Speaking of the suspension I have a 23 yz250x and the suspension is rough even after the first 20 hours of desert riding it'll beat you up
Would it be a good bike for high level gncc racing? And does it compete with other high end offroad race bikes like ktms and kawasakis?
I think that's what this bike is more intended for is the GNCC stuff
There is nothing I don't like about my yz250fx..a great bike... sounds like you needed a wr....brraapppp
Everyone has different skill levels and different weight Etc its rider preference
What are your thoughts on the 450fx? Saw some older ones for cheap (new)
That's a sweet bike too basically the same as this one just a 450 it's definitely more manageable than the 450 motocross bike but it's still a handful in real tight situations just depends on what type of riding you do. If I was in an hour-long race I think I'd be worn out on a 450
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I Order from you guys all the time let's get a sick gytr Graphics set for this bike
Did you use the clickers on the KYB ? why wouldn't you mention that , i think your used to WP shite stock before the cartridge fix on those WP things , the clickers actually have a great range on the SSS KYB . KTM are crap you dont know a good stock bike clearly . Are he we go he is banging on about the cable clutch now , who is this bloke . Cable has more range dribble on your chin .
I’ve been waiting for this bike to come out for a year (ever since last year 450fx updates were announced and stated 250 would be updated 2025). Now that it is, I’m really struggling with buying this or buying a 2025 ktm xcf factory Edition, especially after hearing about your dissatisfaction with the KYB suspension. I’d prefer to not have to tinker other than clickers. Thanks for the review and update!
This bike is good but You can't go wrong with xcf 350 Factory Edition fire!!
I think you just sealed the deal for me! LoL. Thanks!