Starfield Performance Upgrade - 40FPS, 60FPS, VRR And More - The Complete Breakdown

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  • Опубліковано 7 чер 2024
  • Digital Foundry had early access to the display mode update for Starfield, and we've put together this detailed report on the various performance options and visual settings choices available. While Bethesda recommends a 120Hz display with VRR (as do we actually!), there's a wealth of viable options for those with standard 60Hz screens with no variable refresh rate support... and major cities apart, the game does a good job of hitting 60 frames per second.
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    00:00 Overview
    00:48 Visual Differences
    05:57 Performance Testing
    11:43 Analysis and Conclusion
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  • @leonthesleepy
    @leonthesleepy 23 дні тому +1227

    I hate that these days, the only way to get a stable experience is to wait months, even years after a game's launch in order to get decent performance and stability.

    • @Scorpion-bp3ec
      @Scorpion-bp3ec 23 дні тому +172

      That’s why gamers are playing 5+ year old games more

    • @G360LIVE
      @G360LIVE 23 дні тому +192

      Don't buy the game at launch. Wait months or years, then buy the game on sale. You get to play the game, and you get it at a cheaper price with all the DLC and fixes.

    • @Massimoeegeg
      @Massimoeegeg 23 дні тому +4

      But if they are terrible at 60 fps

    • @aynrandom3004
      @aynrandom3004 23 дні тому +41

      r/PatientGamers

    • @sonnieslim5973
      @sonnieslim5973 23 дні тому +44

      Well last gen games launched at 30 fps and never got upgraded to 60 so im not sure what the complaints are about

  • @yaosio
    @yaosio 23 дні тому +521

    I like the uncapped option because it means Starfield will get a performance boost when the next consoles come out without a patch.

    • @okay7332
      @okay7332 23 дні тому +39

      Good point didn’t think of that

    • @II_Th3oRy_II
      @II_Th3oRy_II 23 дні тому +13

      Also we will be able to set it to visual 60 FPS for a locked 1440p at 60 FPS mode.

    • @AristotelesSantosSouza
      @AristotelesSantosSouza 23 дні тому +17

      Xbox Series X X

    • @ClapperDan
      @ClapperDan 23 дні тому +5

      Yes, and no. Creation Engine doesn't really run above 60 fps even on PC. There is a cap in place at the engine level because the physics and timed events in games that use it, rely on a maximum frame rate of 60 fps to operate in a stable manner.
      Things get a bit wonky above 60 fps.
      So at best, Starfield on next gen hardware SHOULD be expected to run Visuals at a target 60 FPS, and keep the visuals settings(which mind you aren't maxed out) and the DRS should maintain 4K clarity.

    • @dazedmaestro1223
      @dazedmaestro1223 23 дні тому +48

      @@ClapperDan, they changed that for starfield and fallout 76. There's is no more cap after fallout 4.

  • @sanctanox
    @sanctanox 23 дні тому +508

    As always: Give consumers the choice and everybody is happy.

    • @Azerkeux
      @Azerkeux 23 дні тому +8

      Where can I play the version of the game that isn't written by a self absorbed narcissist?

    • @ro6uefour50
      @ro6uefour50 23 дні тому +21

      @@Azerkeuxare you talking about Todd Howard? If so I don’t agree that he is one and also he does not write the games. If you are talking about the lead writer then I can’t give an opinion about him.

    • @Azerkeux
      @Azerkeux 23 дні тому +6

      @@ro6uefour50 Emil Pagliarulo. Todd is the CEO/Figurehead and has basically nothing to do with development

    • @leruty
      @leruty 23 дні тому +6

      Exactly. Developers and DF think that console gamers are stupid and can´t handle multiple modes. 30, 40, 60, unlocked, combining visual with 60 fps etc should be the norm

    • @eljusticiero322
      @eljusticiero322 23 дні тому

      *hippie

  • @rocstarang5747
    @rocstarang5747 23 дні тому +566

    Game companies have conditioned us to wait, and they wonder why sales are down...

    • @TheProphegy
      @TheProphegy 23 дні тому +18

      Wait for a deep sale or wait for it to come to a subscription service because by then the game is fully patched.

    • @ifstatementifstatement2704
      @ifstatementifstatement2704 23 дні тому +5

      And yet after waiting the performance is still not perfect.

    • @Fitzpa14
      @Fitzpa14 23 дні тому +7

      I thought I heard this games sales were fantastic though?

    • @houssamelgharbi2235
      @houssamelgharbi2235 23 дні тому +5

      You don't understand deadlines do you?

    • @Hispa22
      @Hispa22 23 дні тому +5

      Starfield vendió más de 12 millones y encima lo tienes en Gamepass😂😂 te parece poco 😂

  • @nightowl3582
    @nightowl3582 23 дні тому +183

    As someone who played this a bit on PC(thanks to PC GamePass), I have to say it plays so much nicer at 60 or higher. Everything just feels so much better. This is a welcome update.

    • @NexGenTek
      @NexGenTek 23 дні тому +10

      Not at 900p

    • @ninjaskillzyt
      @ninjaskillzyt 23 дні тому +1

      aint no way

    • @georgejones5019
      @georgejones5019 23 дні тому +2

      ​@@NexGenTek Is it 900p or 900p upscale with FSR?

    • @DoomSlayer87r
      @DoomSlayer87r 23 дні тому

      ​@@georgejones5019900p internally and then upscaled by fsr 2 i think they said
      They should update to fsr 3 and it may do better

    • @Zuurkool1
      @Zuurkool1 23 дні тому +10

      I might be downvoted for suggesting this but, yes you are right... so does every other game I have ever played. Starfield is not some kind of outlier, if you own a modern beefy system, you'll want to play a game like this at 60fps+. Unfortunately around launch with a very powerful pc, there were still areas where the fps totally tanked, I remember Akila city to be especially bad. I'm installing it now to see if it has somewhat improved since then. - Edit - It has improved, more options like DLSS help to get a good framerate.

  • @chrisvillan88
    @chrisvillan88 23 дні тому +287

    I might give 40fps a try. Usually a good balance between visuals and responsiveness

    • @Jonatan606
      @Jonatan606 23 дні тому +29

      If you have a VRR display, there is no reason not to go for the 60 fps mode.

    • @xtr.7662
      @xtr.7662 23 дні тому +26

      ​@@Jonatan606higher res

    • @Jonatan606
      @Jonatan606 23 дні тому +17

      @@xtr.7662 The game is almost always CPU bound

    • @xtr.7662
      @xtr.7662 23 дні тому +2

      @@Jonatan606 for 60fps most of the time it isnt only in those towns

    • @Leon14344_
      @Leon14344_ 23 дні тому +11

      Yeah no. 60fps or nothing

  • @doxthafox1138
    @doxthafox1138 23 дні тому +114

    This update is so welcomed. Much needed QoL updates and def fuels my fire for the Shattered Space DLC.

    • @leoni7649
      @leoni7649 23 дні тому +27

      Quality of life is what you have when you decide not to play this game

    • @doxthafox1138
      @doxthafox1138 23 дні тому +22

      @@leoni7649 ok 👍

    • @spike5499
      @spike5499 23 дні тому +5

      @@leoni7649 LMAOOO FAX 🗣

    • @Iron84
      @Iron84 23 дні тому +20

      ​@@leoni7649no one cares, bye 👋

    • @EX0007
      @EX0007 23 дні тому +5

      @@Iron84 You cared enough to comment soo...

  • @CDunn322
    @CDunn322 23 дні тому +18

    Hopefully by the time the DLC drops, things will perform even better.

  • @bobbobbins4877
    @bobbobbins4877 22 дні тому +7

    It's nice to see some games are now giving players more freedom over visual settings. I've often wondered why consoles have been so restrictive in this regard. There's no harm in defaulting to optimised reccomended settings, but also giving the player freedom to tinker.

  • @theoryofeverywhere6293
    @theoryofeverywhere6293 23 дні тому +169

    It seems like a 40 fps mode should be available for Series S at some point. 40 fps feels so much better than 30 fps and very nearly as good as 60 fps for me.

    • @enescustovic1883
      @enescustovic1883 23 дні тому +45

      spoken like a victim of domestic abuse. "mhm, 40 FPS is just as good as 60 FPS pappa Todd". Disgusting. They don't deserve a dime for Starfield.

    • @duppypixels
      @duppypixels 23 дні тому +27

      I always go with 40 over 60 if the option is available. I wish more games supported it this generation honestly. I guess a lot of people dont have the displays

    • @ethanwright752
      @ethanwright752 23 дні тому +7

      @@duppypixels Id push more options like 40 simply so that 60fps becomes a standard option and devs stop forcing stupid 30 on their bloated games. More options is better.

    • @FoureyesZero
      @FoureyesZero 23 дні тому +15

      40 fps is a terrible looking slideshow no better than 30 fps.

    • @_TT90
      @_TT90 23 дні тому +8

      120Hz TVs are still not common which is needed for 40 FPS mode so I don’t think most developers will put in time to optimize for 40 FPS.

  • @wh5027
    @wh5027 22 дні тому +2

    Just checked it out and it really makes a difference. Definitely gonna continue my adventure now.

  • @milsvaard
    @milsvaard 23 дні тому +83

    This is a good patch, I never expected to get a locked 60fps on the console, but the added higher framerate features and reasonable visual cutbacks are welcomed. Can't wait to jump back in.

    • @swellerace
      @swellerace 23 дні тому +12

      Did they pay you to say that?

    • @milsvaard
      @milsvaard 23 дні тому +15

      @@swellerace no

    • @carpetfluff35
      @carpetfluff35 23 дні тому +4

      I'd agree if I wanted to go back, but the game just lost me about half way through. I'm glad it's better for people who care, but I just can't muster the urge to go back to it.

    • @swellerace
      @swellerace 23 дні тому +1

      @@milsvaard ok that's good

    • @f1nkangel
      @f1nkangel 22 дні тому +1

      It's just nice to be treated like an adult and given the options. For that alone they should be applauded.

  • @Darkraz
    @Darkraz 23 дні тому +194

    60fps downloading NOW

    • @50H3i1
      @50H3i1 23 дні тому +16

      I Uninstalled one week after launch and waited for this patch

    • @ScroDiddly
      @ScroDiddly 23 дні тому +6

      ​@@50H3i1 I did the same!

    • @Patman45
      @Patman45 23 дні тому

      @@50H3i1😂😂

    • @MrWinnfield
      @MrWinnfield 23 дні тому +3

      60fps is a lie!

    • @naywahn
      @naywahn 23 дні тому +4

      ​@@MrWinnfield
      Yeah, it's more of a target.

  • @iconofsin4578
    @iconofsin4578 23 дні тому +104

    I really liked Starfield and played it almost 200 hours. Im really happy about this update and other enchancements

    • @okay7332
      @okay7332 23 дні тому +19

      Same I’m super happy with it!

    • @clementnunes5070
      @clementnunes5070 23 дні тому +20

      You know what, I didnt like it much, but I’m happy to see some had fun with it and don’t act like 30fps is worse than WW3 or a crime against humanity.

    • @swellerace
      @swellerace 23 дні тому

      ​@@clementnunes5070lol that's it are you sure because these cost millions of dollars to develop and market so don't expect another one or get your hopes up too much!

    • @angryjoe98
      @angryjoe98 23 дні тому +2

      @@clementnunes5070i mean almost my hole life as a gamer i was on console and have been playing primarily at 30fps in the 5th-7th gen you would be lucky if the game ran at a locked 30 so its not a big deal imo. Lucky im a pc guy now

    • @zq7246
      @zq7246 23 дні тому +7

      Yes I liked it too. A NASA punk game was what I always wanted

  • @zeroDOLLARg-Ro
    @zeroDOLLARg-Ro 18 днів тому +4

    This is exactly why we love Digital Foundry!

  • @Windwardcheese9
    @Windwardcheese9 20 днів тому

    Love the updated, space exploration plus gunplay nice. Looks incredible.

  • @SupertoastGT
    @SupertoastGT 23 дні тому +34

    60fps in most places and durpy durp in major cities. Exactly what I thought we could get on this hardware. I'm happy with this. Performance wise, we have the game that we should have had at launch. :D

    • @ethanwright752
      @ethanwright752 23 дні тому +6

      No! It's much better to have the game run like trash for the entire experience instead of a few rough spots!

    • @TheBottleneckedGamer
      @TheBottleneckedGamer 23 дні тому +3

      Shame the rest of the game is junk 😢

    • @carpetfluff35
      @carpetfluff35 23 дні тому +3

      Thing is we could have had it at launch. This is basically exactly what Bethesda said they had it running like - decent in most places but poor here and there - before deciding to lock it to 30fps. Honestly not sure why they didn't just give people the option and let the chips fall.

  • @Michi-bz6ib
    @Michi-bz6ib 23 дні тому +25

    Great job, Oliver! Love your videos.

  • @eruannster
    @eruannster 22 дні тому

    Very happy to see this. Letting users choose how they want to play, perferring frame rates over resolutions/quality settings is a very good trend that I hope all developers embrace.
    I do find internally rendering at 900p and upscaling to full 4K a pretty strange choice, I wonder if they could trade higher internal resolution for a lower upscaling resolution for better results. Maybe rendering at ~1080p and upscaling to 1440p, or perhaps have a dynamic resolution that lets the internal resolution go higher when there is headroom. It feels like there could be some further balancing/tweaking of this that could reduce the shimmering.
    Overall, I applaud Bethesda for putting in the effort for these things, although I also think they should have been there at launch. At least a 40 FPS mode or some sort of VRR unlocked mode.

  • @WiseGuy3683
    @WiseGuy3683 6 днів тому

    Good analysis!

  • @ScrilboBaggins
    @ScrilboBaggins 23 дні тому +10

    Nice! I welcome this update

  • @pillarcloud8266
    @pillarcloud8266 17 днів тому +3

    60fps on visuals with no hud look like a brand new game and looks amazing

  • @f1nkangel
    @f1nkangel 22 дні тому +1

    Thanks for the balanced review Oliver. One quick question. So if we need a 120hz capable display to enable 40fps mode, how do we end up hovering around 40fps during testing scenes on a 60fps target? In the old days, if your CRT couldn't flick up to 60hz then you were basically out of luck, but here we have Starfield able to exist at sub 60hz and still display on the VDU - is it simply the disparity which causes issues?

  • @ajread1990
    @ajread1990 22 дні тому +1

    I have a TV that can do 120hz VRR but only HDR not Dolby Vision at that refresh rate. I don’t really ever notice the difference between properly calibrated HGIG HDR vs Dolby Vision so when playing a multiplayer shooter I use 120 without Dolby.
    I’m confused by the table at the start of this video. Is it saying to get VRR I have to be in 120hz mode on my Xbox and Tv? Even if I want to play in 60fps target?
    Ideally I’d play 60fps, visual mode, Dolby vision with my Xbox set to 60fps mode.

  • @eddywells5689
    @eddywells5689 23 дні тому +7

    Great vid

  • @Shikmusik
    @Shikmusik 23 дні тому +3

    Going forward. All games should have all these visual options.. 👍
    I have a Pc with a 5700x and 4070ti and I play my games at 1440p with 60fps cap at max settings... I'm happy with that.

  • @333hronos
    @333hronos 23 дні тому

    You can see how variable rate shading is working on the most GPU demand areas, like forest with green geysers on Jemison planet. When you stay close to any geyser with rich forest on background.
    And at least on PC VRS can save much fps in those stress scenarios (depends on tweaking the % value of VRS)

  • @armadilloseller
    @armadilloseller 13 днів тому +2

    any chance of getting an updated pc performance guide? they've changed/added quite a bit since your last pc video.

  • @wertywerrtyson5529
    @wertywerrtyson5529 22 дні тому +3

    Nice to have a 60fps that works in most places. But did they fix HDR yet? It felt like playing on a 2004 cheap LCD even being on an OLED. I couldn’t play because of all the gray. I want deep blacks on my OLED.

  • @djgroopz4952
    @djgroopz4952 22 дні тому +9

    This culture of optimisation a year after a game has been released has to stop.

  • @YouTubeCensors
    @YouTubeCensors 23 дні тому +1

    Playing on Visuals 60 VRR. Feels good, Haven't been to a city yet though but if it drops to 30-40 I'm fine given i played the game a bunch already at 30.

  • @spacewxranger
    @spacewxranger 21 день тому

    The only "issue" I've had so far is there are certain pads that when you land you end up under the landing bay. They had that fixed on the last patch but seems to have made a return. Not sure if anyone else had this issue too or not! New Homestead and Gagarin for starters

  • @ajibsaladka
    @ajibsaladka 23 дні тому +4

    Always buy a free sync premium monitor / tv if you want the complete experience on consoles.

  • @cloverraven
    @cloverraven 23 дні тому +4

    Changing the inventory weight in the options makes the game playable again

    • @jemmi20
      @jemmi20 22 дні тому

      First thing I did. Fk all that crap

  • @ethanaderemi
    @ethanaderemi 23 дні тому +4

    Might finally pick this up now lolll

  • @xecob
    @xecob 23 дні тому +19

    40fps visuals works best for my on series X on my 120hz TV looks and feels great.

    • @Salute503
      @Salute503 23 дні тому +1

      Same here on my LG g2

    • @DeadPiixxel
      @DeadPiixxel 23 дні тому

      tv? lol get a monitor

    • @xecob
      @xecob 23 дні тому +5

      @@DeadPiixxel why? I have a 55 inch 4k 144hz TV with VRR, HDR10+, Dolby Vision, 1000+ nits..
      Oh and I do have a monitor, 1440p165hz 32inch HDR.. that's for my PC gaming.. But TV HDR destroys monitor HDR unless you're willing to drop $2-3k on a monitor.

    • @KevinGross-yr8fu
      @KevinGross-yr8fu 22 дні тому +1

      ​Monitor & Console? 😂?​@@DeadPiixxel

  • @swoosh26
    @swoosh26 23 дні тому +5

    That's fast great job guy's

  • @Goober89
    @Goober89 23 дні тому +8

    Still haven't played yet, might wait for the expansion and official mod support

    • @hannes0000
      @hannes0000 23 дні тому +1

      Starfield is worth playing in 2028

  • @zirytowanygracz7758
    @zirytowanygracz7758 21 день тому +1

    Is there aby difference in graphics beetwen 30fps and 40fps modes?

  • @fullmetalboon4670
    @fullmetalboon4670 23 дні тому +1

    honestly to people who read the comments, the 60fps is a game changer for pc monitors. been playing it on 60fps uncapped with VRR on and the experience is night and day on a monitor. Monitor's don't support interpolation like TV's (transistions one frame to the next smoothly) so 30fps is jarring, and VRR doesn't kick in if the Hz goes under 48Hz. even if you get slow down in the 2 main city hubs, thats only a small minor part of the game. also if you go into accessibility options there are FoV sliders (not sure how new) but having FoV cranked up to 90 and at 60fps (mostly) is a huge win!

  • @floppa9415
    @floppa9415 23 дні тому +69

    Imagine playing a game at release

    • @concinnus
      @concinnus 23 дні тому +5

      Portal 2 was great at release...probably the last such game.

    • @polydypsia6424
      @polydypsia6424 23 дні тому

      Imagine being grateful you did at all

    • @robthomson1581
      @robthomson1581 23 дні тому

      Honestly it was really good at release. Yeah its defo way better now but it's mostly for QoL reasons. Myself and lots of people I know had an absolut blast playing through from launch day.

    • @axelhopfinger533
      @axelhopfinger533 23 дні тому +1

      And a Bugthesda game at that!

    • @Safetytrousers
      @Safetytrousers 22 дні тому +2

      I played it at release and the only bug I encountered was one spinnnng person all playthrough.

  • @cratoic1603
    @cratoic1603 23 дні тому +13

    3:10 For crowd density, I'm 60% sure, you have to load into a new scene for it to take effect e.g., going through a loading screen, to see the difference in crowd density. Quitting and reloading a save once you change it doesn't change the density I'm fairly sure.

    • @olivermackenzie3250
      @olivermackenzie3250 23 дні тому +18

      I restarted the game between attempts.

    • @damianabregba7476
      @damianabregba7476 23 дні тому +1

      Maybe it really needs to load different location and then back

    • @alexatkin
      @alexatkin 23 дні тому +4

      @@damianabregba7476 That kinda makes sense, if it saves the position of NPCs into your save game - which might be necessary to not break quests that involve NPCs.

    • @SerBallister
      @SerBallister 22 дні тому +1

      I noticed in Bethesda games they don't run physics everywhere, just in areas which had a player or NPC interaction, like on shelves you'll see some items float and not fall due to gravity, pick one up and all of a sudden the entire shelf will have objects falling down. I wonder if this is why cities can slow down, when NPCs are walking nearby other physics objects the game starts simulating them. Hundreds of NPCs then cause the simulation to explode.

  • @eddiegarcia1560
    @eddiegarcia1560 23 дні тому +2

    Now I can start my game+

  • @Mr_Waffle.
    @Mr_Waffle. 23 дні тому

    Thanks for the overview. I think a lot of the downgrades for Performance mode will be unnoticeable when I’m running back and forth doing “couldn’t this be an email?” fetch quests lol

  • @Whoozurdaddy
    @Whoozurdaddy 23 дні тому +7

    Eager to try the 120hz uncapped VRR mode. Looks incredible but it looked incredible before and the frame pacing was good at 30 so any added FPS will just be a bonus.

    • @HarrisHakim
      @HarrisHakim 23 дні тому

      Hi how do you enable 120 hz mode? I have lg c1 oled tv

    • @CrimsonGear80
      @CrimsonGear80 23 дні тому

      @@HarrisHakim if you have your series X set to output at 120hz in it's video settings then the game will launch automatically in 120hz.

  • @Crovon1
    @Crovon1 23 дні тому +8

    It sounds as though they unlocked the settings that TH said they had when testing the game originally. "It hits 60 but not in all areas stably".
    Just think how much better the performance will be once they implement FSR3 when it becomes available for console at sometime soon.

    • @ethanwright752
      @ethanwright752 23 дні тому

      If that were true (it might be) then it's pretty inexcusable that it took 8 months to patch the game.

    • @angryjoe98
      @angryjoe98 23 дні тому +1

      Yep i remember them stating multiple times that for launch they just wanted to make sure the game felt consistent.

    • @Crovon1
      @Crovon1 23 дні тому

      @@ethanwright752 wel yes, buts is Bethesda and I’ll bet Xbox didn’t want it delayed any longer

  • @H6rdc0re
    @H6rdc0re 23 дні тому +2

    With Alex being such big RTS fan I don't understand why there is no Homeworld 3 review yet. It even has Raytracing.

  • @infinitysynthesis
    @infinitysynthesis 23 дні тому +2

    So should i set my tv to 120hz with vrr and choose the 60fps visuals mode?.

    • @kevclark8661
      @kevclark8661 23 дні тому +1

      i believe it was 120 on vrr on 60fps in performance mode for best experience ??

    • @karmamule
      @karmamule 23 дні тому

      @@kevclark8661 Yes that seemed to be his favorite if doing Visuals mode

  • @Raupenmann
    @Raupenmann 23 дні тому +13

    So 120hz mode uncapped for 60fps + is the way to go?

    • @viagabee9193
      @viagabee9193 23 дні тому +2

      playing on that rn feels good

    • @HarrisHakim
      @HarrisHakim 23 дні тому

      Hi how do i enable this 120 hz mode? I have lg c1 oled tv

    • @cristi8183
      @cristi8183 23 дні тому +1

      Make sure xbox series x is set to 120 fps. Then in the game menu for display, set performance and uncapped.
      I'm at the game beginning and it's between 70-80 fps.
      Obviously, in comparison to 30 fps it's a big difference.

    • @Salute503
      @Salute503 23 дні тому +2

      The 40 fps visuals is good to

  • @ElbowJoe
    @ElbowJoe 23 дні тому +4

    This makes for an amazing ASMR power nap video. Highly recommended 👍

  • @stevenwood433
    @stevenwood433 22 дні тому

    Makes me want to play it again now

  • @timcallahan6377
    @timcallahan6377 18 днів тому

    I have a Series X but don't have a VRR TV. If I set it to Performance 60 FPS with V Sync on how bad is screen tearing?

  • @kauanfontes7790
    @kauanfontes7790 23 дні тому +3

    I ended up dropping the game after finishing the campaign because those 30 fps on console gave me headaches, everything was too slow, sluggish. Now with these updates, I'll give it another chance and do the New Game Plus. In 2023 and still playing games at 30 fps?? That doesn't make sense, unless it's a game completely focused on narrative like Life is Strange or Hellblade 2, which is coming out in a few days. In those cases, 30 fps won't be too much of a hindrance.

  • @zonkedmusician1502
    @zonkedmusician1502 23 дні тому +4

    Nice. Looking forward to trying out the new options.

  • @Safetytrousers
    @Safetytrousers 22 дні тому

    If there is a crowd density selection in a game I always turn it to minimum so it's easier to get around.

  • @alexx6274
    @alexx6274 23 дні тому +2

    When will xbox start to use fsr3? I remember that amd showcase and they said beggining of 2024, it was a big thing then cause it showed dramatic increase in fps, but this is fsr2 still? What happened with that

    • @smugmode
      @smugmode 23 дні тому

      I thought Sony was working on their own tech, now?
      Edit: Derp. You said Xbox lol mb

  • @matty92k
    @matty92k 23 дні тому +3

    Running uncapped on visual mode series X OMG the game has its stutters in big areas but overall the level of detail your gettingbis crazy. You can now imagine what stuff feels like now that its so textured

  • @felyxmillicent6538
    @felyxmillicent6538 23 дні тому +20

    I haven't been able to stop playing since launch. I've gone through the Unity a dozen times but I can't play a proper role play campaign unless I have every skill maxed. Any update is a piece of dessert.

    • @bromanoski
      @bromanoski 23 дні тому +5

      You don’t get bored? What do you do to have fun, I can never get into it

    • @felyxmillicent6538
      @felyxmillicent6538 23 дні тому +7

      I imagine myself as the character and am a villain in one universe and a hero in another and create side stories and backgrounds for NPCs. My imagination does the work, and the combat is awesome when you've got phased time and the stealth perks.

    • @DeadPiixxel
      @DeadPiixxel 23 дні тому

      @@felyxmillicent6538 okay kid

    • @Safetytrousers
      @Safetytrousers 22 дні тому +6

      @@DeadPiixxel I'm 53 and I played it 3 times.

  • @MisterBrodo
    @MisterBrodo 23 дні тому +1

    Do they show the new dialogue camera anywhere in this video?

  • @NevrNewd
    @NevrNewd 23 дні тому

    So on a C3, I’m going to go with 120hz, 60fps on performance and VRR. Thanks.

  • @jimbob8992
    @jimbob8992 23 дні тому +8

    I may have to download this again after deleting it, simply because I find 30fps distracting. Looking forward to 60fps 120hz vrr.

  • @ThunderTheBlackShadowKitty
    @ThunderTheBlackShadowKitty 22 дні тому +3

    Lots of people don't remember that XSX is actually CPU limited. No amount of upscaling can fix that. Upscaling only helps the GPU, which is why visual mode can still reach 60 fps, but performance mode locked at 30 fps puts too much load on the CPU. Performance mode at 30 fps won't stress the XSX GPU at all. Starfield is in fact CPU limited, not GPU limited.

    • @Finger112
      @Finger112 22 дні тому +1

      Which only a new console generation will solve or an upgrade from the Series X.

    • @ThunderTheBlackShadowKitty
      @ThunderTheBlackShadowKitty 22 дні тому +3

      @@Finger112 Sadly, PS5 Pro is making the mistake of not upgrading the CPU, they are merely overclocking it while giving it a much stronger GPU. I think PS5 Pro is trying to get 4k solid 60 fps but I fear it may suffer CPU bottleneck in a game like Starfield, Cyberpunk 2077 or the upcoming GTA VI.

    • @famousfighter2310
      @famousfighter2310 21 день тому +1

      @@ThunderTheBlackShadowKittyI understand why due to heat and power but I wish the PS5 Pro has a zen 3 cpu in. Imagine similar performance to a 5700x or 5800x3D. Man that would be so good

    • @ThunderTheBlackShadowKitty
      @ThunderTheBlackShadowKitty 21 день тому

      @@famousfighter2310 3D cache is currently top tier, it's fucking incredible. I agree Sony made a mistake not drastically upgrading the CPU. A 5700X3D would be ideal.

    • @famousfighter2310
      @famousfighter2310 21 день тому +1

      @@ThunderTheBlackShadowKitty Besides too with them using liquid metal. I think they could probably pull it off

  • @Zenglar
    @Zenglar 21 день тому

    Hey just a question.. is there gonna be a video for ghost of tsushima pc port ? tnx

  • @LostInDistance
    @LostInDistance 19 днів тому

    So much better. Really enjoying the survival part of it too. Playing on very hard has actually given the game a much needed challenge and you need to actually take cover. They’ve balanced it nicely. Can only keep on getting better as time goes on.

  • @GeremyG
    @GeremyG 23 дні тому +18

    I didn’t play the game at launch due to the framerate. Might give it a shot now.

  • @martiananomaly
    @martiananomaly 23 дні тому +13

    Left the game because of the 30 fps. I guess I'll play it again.

  • @EmilDahlMusic
    @EmilDahlMusic 23 дні тому +1

    I'm on a 4k120hz VRR oled. Is Vsync supposed to be greyed out and locked to "ON"? There's no way to turn it off for me

    • @adds-kz3oc
      @adds-kz3oc 23 дні тому +1

      VRR requires vsync to be enabled...

    • @EmilDahlMusic
      @EmilDahlMusic 23 дні тому

      @@adds-kz3oc Cool, didn't know that. Thanks for informing this noob here! 🙋‍♂️

  • @wastelandangel2463
    @wastelandangel2463 20 днів тому

    I’m playing on capped 60fps, vrr on at 120 in console settings, issue I have is not being able to play with HDR on now as I only have hdmi 2.0. I’ve tried console settings at 60 fps vrr on hdr on, but it’s not as smooth as when I switch to 120.

  • @bobby1129
    @bobby1129 23 дні тому +7

    This puts into perspective why they capped at 30 on launch for the smoothest experience

  • @kovalveli
    @kovalveli 23 дні тому +3

    uncapped frame rate with 120hz VRR is the way to go , I'm actually gonna give the game a go , I hated it in 30fps when it came out.

    • @GarrusVakarian-to2uh
      @GarrusVakarian-to2uh 23 дні тому

      make sure you are also on the perf mode

    • @kovalveli
      @kovalveli 23 дні тому

      @@GarrusVakarian-to2uh yep ,playing it right now ,and I really like what I'm seeing.

    • @Retro_Gamer_89
      @Retro_Gamer_89 23 дні тому +2

      I got a LG C1 OLED TV I'm good 😎

    • @kovalveli
      @kovalveli 23 дні тому

      @@Retro_Gamer_89 LG CX here, I'm good too 😎

    • @superaron83
      @superaron83 21 день тому +1

      The option for uncapped doesn't appear, even though I'm running 120hz with VRR enabled

  • @zb3485
    @zb3485 23 дні тому +2

    are loading screens 60 fps also?

  • @mysticalos
    @mysticalos 22 дні тому

    I'd say the biggest value of options, is that they'll auto scale on future generation hardware without need of later patches

  • @silvercoin4153
    @silvercoin4153 23 дні тому +23

    This is what I've been waiting for. Finally 60 FPS and a better map. Now it's really fun.

    • @xboxthebestbox1134
      @xboxthebestbox1134 23 дні тому +2

      😎

    • @LostInDistance
      @LostInDistance 19 днів тому +1

      Also the survival part of it is very welcoming. 👌🏼 Much more enjoyable on very hard.

    • @silvercoin4153
      @silvercoin4153 19 днів тому +1

      ​@@LostInDistance
      I'm not a very good gamer. For me, in addition to the things described above, the ability to increase the carrying capacity was a blessing. I used to have to sometimes force myself to keep playing, but now I have to force myself to stop since the update. Very good job from Bethesda I say.

  • @ChisponGroxo
    @ChisponGroxo 23 дні тому +3

    We gonna have to wait for the "next-gen" patch for future PS6 and XBOX SX2(?)

    • @dtube441
      @dtube441 23 дні тому

      You just reaching for something to complain about 😂

    • @ChisponGroxo
      @ChisponGroxo 23 дні тому +1

      @@dtube441 well I mean the performance mode drops frames horribly and it's unacceptable.

    • @Greengoblin-qk6kq
      @Greengoblin-qk6kq 20 днів тому

      ​@@ChisponGroxoif it's unacceptable buy better hardware

    • @ChisponGroxo
      @ChisponGroxo 20 днів тому

      @@Greengoblin-qk6kq yeah I'm gonna buy a RTX 4090 and plug it on my Xbox Series X.

  • @daftpunkforeternity
    @daftpunkforeternity 23 дні тому

    I have an older tv but I’ve got no screen tearing I’m pumped to actually play the game now

  • @albl2171
    @albl2171 12 днів тому

    Whats that TV/monitor menu @11:10 ? I mean brand & model ?
    Btw. Looks like performance -60 or visuals 40fps is the way to play on my LG OLED (120hz VRR) i LOVE IT that they added "uncapped" even tho it dont really makes sense to play with it..

  • @Saif0412
    @Saif0412 23 дні тому +8

    Hope Bethesda do further optimization in future patches to improve those areas where FPS tanks.

    • @alexatkin
      @alexatkin 23 дні тому +2

      Given its a CPU bottleneck, I wouldn't hold your breath.

    • @ulfricstormcloak7142
      @ulfricstormcloak7142 23 дні тому

      Especially in Akila city and New Atlantis

    • @axelhopfinger533
      @axelhopfinger533 23 дні тому +1

      Considering how Bethesda's level of care has been for this game since launch, you'll likely have a better chance wishing for world peace and a 10 inch shwang.
      That ancient engine is simply at its limits. Maybe modders can do some mesh and texture optimizations to lower resource usage like they have done for previous Bethesda games. If they even care enough for this thoroughly mediocre and disappointing game anymore at this point.

    • @ulfricstormcloak7142
      @ulfricstormcloak7142 23 дні тому

      @@axelhopfinger533 bruh, the fact that they released this update and the later Shattered Space is the proof that they still care

    • @SerBallister
      @SerBallister 22 дні тому

      @@alexatkin It slows down when you have nothing but a simple wall onscreen. So either the game isn't culling geometry and still drawing a whole city behind that wall, or something else is going on. No way can you choke a GPU if you only told it to draw a single wall. Unless their post-processing is really expensive some how.

  • @AAULTEN
    @AAULTEN 23 дні тому +3

    well regarded??

  • @Krypterium
    @Krypterium 17 днів тому

    does Motion Interpolation feels better in this case ?

  • @not.an.operator
    @not.an.operator 21 день тому

    Does setting the Series X to 1440p impact frame rate drops at all?

  • @eduscxbox
    @eduscxbox 23 дні тому +46

    And as Todd Howard have said, they choosed 30fps for consistency and now people are seeing why, but will pretend he never said that and criticize the frame drops on Akila and New Atlantis that wasn't an issue before.

    • @ethanwright752
      @ethanwright752 23 дні тому +18

      "Lets make the framerate entirely trash because two parts of the game only do 40fps" um, ok

    • @eduscxbox
      @eduscxbox 23 дні тому +12

      @@ethanwright752 Yeah, and people are critizing exactly those two parts. Just look at the hating comments.

    • @theanimerapper6351
      @theanimerapper6351 23 дні тому +7

      ​@@ethanwright752 right? Like this comment is literally advocating for gamers to have less options. Who care what Todd Howard said? Give me 60fps option

    • @ltodom5884
      @ltodom5884 23 дні тому +1

      @@ethanwright752lmao were none of you here for xbox 360 i swear you’re all little kids, ack then everything was 30fps and we didn’t care

    • @captiosus9753
      @captiosus9753 23 дні тому

      ⁠@@ltodom5884Ah yes, we should ignore all the technological progress from then until now and should accept performance from 15 years ago because that’s just how it was back then. 🙄

  • @jamescole3143
    @jamescole3143 23 дні тому +3

    Thank you DF!

  • @GamingPaRa
    @GamingPaRa 23 дні тому +2

    Love them quick uploads . Appreciate it!

  • @SpartanNegan
    @SpartanNegan 23 дні тому +1

    Is uncapped fps compatible with quality mode ??

  • @frankynakamoto2308
    @frankynakamoto2308 23 дні тому +3

    I think the only problem is the major cities in starfield, I think this is because the creation engine lacks mesh shaders, adding mesh shaders to remove objects that are not visible to the field of view inside those demanding areas would be a very good choice to add, so that we can see higher frame rates..

  • @darthdragonborn1552
    @darthdragonborn1552 23 дні тому +4

    The almost no reaction to the fact that in some of the cities the game drops to 30-40 frames with perf. 60 on is pretty weird lol.

  • @babyboy1971
    @babyboy1971 23 дні тому

    Is there any visual upgrade to series S?

  • @user-it6bx9tt5h
    @user-it6bx9tt5h 22 дні тому

    is the resolution still 4k?
    or is it like 4k 30fps
    1440p 60
    1080p 120

  • @cigarbearreviews
    @cigarbearreviews 23 дні тому +13

    About dam time. Gave up when it first came out due to severe motion sickness. FPS does matter. In 2024, 60-120 is a must,

    • @ethanwright752
      @ethanwright752 23 дні тому

      I was told the experience was "smoother" at 30 than running at 60 and having a couple slow downs. lol

    • @cigarbearreviews
      @cigarbearreviews 23 дні тому

      @@ethanwright752 really? Well I guess some people’s eyes are different. Some swear by 30fps, but others when your used to 60fps, it’s hard to go back.

    • @ethanwright752
      @ethanwright752 23 дні тому

      @@cigarbearreviews I was being sarcastic. People that swear by 30fps and the resulting 16ms of added input latency are broken

    • @angryjoe98
      @angryjoe98 23 дні тому

      If you want every console game to be at 60 we would need new consoles every 3 to 4 years. After that consoles will begin having 30fps locks as software out paces them.

    • @ethanwright752
      @ethanwright752 23 дні тому

      @@angryjoe98 Typically developers learn the hardware much better toward the end of a cycle, but at the same time they want to keep graphic fidelity improving beyond what the hardware is designed for. It's always a choice to target or not target 60. I don't care about any excuses developers have anymore.

  • @extofer
    @extofer 23 дні тому +4

    Did they do an update to the game to make it fundamentally a better game? Because that’s what the game was lacking at launch, imo.

  • @Lukasamba
    @Lukasamba 13 днів тому

    So, what is resolution for 40 and 60 fps modes? Oliver did not tell this clearly.

  • @betamborindeguy
    @betamborindeguy 19 днів тому

    Resolution on Series X, Visual and Performance?

  • @barberza
    @barberza 23 дні тому +6

    It's certainly understandable why the game has the performance, visual and design limitations it does, (and maybe this isn't in DF's purview) but it's totally valid to question Bethesda's design sensibilities that continue to hobble their games. It's novel I guess that a cheese wheel stays where I drop it no matter where I go, but both Starfield and Fallout 76 show clear, significant problems that Bethesda admits are because of object persistance---problems that get in the way of basic interaction with the game and the game's core systems. Yet they rolled ahead with a loot-driven online service game with a severely restricted inventory and Stafield with the performance, visual, and other issues that they're still now working to iron out. Is that worth it? (& no disrespect to clearly talented and hardworking developers here, but from a critical/artistic perspective I don't think these design priorities are serving these works)
    "So Preoccupied With Whether Or Not They Could, They Didn't Stop To Think If They Should..."

    • @ethanwright752
      @ethanwright752 23 дні тому +1

      Ive been saying this all along. If the way you make your game proves impossible to deliver stable performance, maybe change the way you make the game.

    • @irecordwithaphone1856
      @irecordwithaphone1856 17 днів тому

      Don't disagree with most of what you said, but the whole live service game push at Bethesda was due to Zenimax. It was happening for other Bethesda published titles as well

  • @oscard.5854
    @oscard.5854 20 днів тому +1

    I have an Asus monitor set at 1440p 120hz but can't see the uncapped option in the series x. Is this normal? Can someone help me out with this?

    • @LostInDistance
      @LostInDistance 19 днів тому

      Have you gone into the main settings on your Xbox? You might have to select the option there to open it up.

  • @KennyJ.
    @KennyJ. 23 дні тому

    That spot in front of the minerals shop in akila is still a FPS killer. Everything runs smooth but at that spot the game says nah F that.

  • @UberNoodle
    @UberNoodle 23 дні тому +4

    Digital Foundry: come for the information and analysis, stay for the extreme negativity in the comments?

    • @YouTubeCensors
      @YouTubeCensors 23 дні тому +2

      It's just angry PC plebs and Sony Ponys

  • @meecrobhead
    @meecrobhead 23 дні тому +10

    So....now I can start the game again. 30fps was unplayable for me. Patience is worth gold.

  • @RicardoCarvalhoPT
    @RicardoCarvalhoPT 17 днів тому

    This was the only game I had on my backlog to play on PC due to 30fps 😁 can't wait to test it again in Series X! Way to go

  • @killrblue
    @killrblue 23 дні тому

    Looking forward to the GOT PC performance review

  • @tonyrivera8996
    @tonyrivera8996 23 дні тому +16

    Good to know that ps5 port will be @60fps

    • @eddiegarcia1560
      @eddiegarcia1560 23 дні тому +4

      I hope it goes to PS5. Make Xbox some money so they stop shutting down studios

    • @ohiostate614oh7
      @ohiostate614oh7 23 дні тому

      What port?

    • @thebiggestgarlic1194
      @thebiggestgarlic1194 23 дні тому +1

      Not being ported to PS5. You'll have to settle for Fallout 4. 😭😜

    • @YouTubeCensors
      @YouTubeCensors 23 дні тому

      ​@@eddiegarcia1560PS5 uses Poor VRR, IF by some miracle you get a port, it will be a piss poor one and without Mods to boot

    • @KevinGross-yr8fu
      @KevinGross-yr8fu 22 дні тому

      ​@@eddiegarcia1560 because Tango and arkane Made millions of millions Sales right? Oh Boy 😂