Corporations are good at making consumers feel guilty. 10 Companies produce more than half the world's emissions so none of us here should feel guilty about running saws, our impact is miniscule.
I use it, not for more power, but for better storage abilities... I found on the documentation that it is a 1/50 mix, I myself mix in a little bit of extra 2 stroke oil, regards Wim
It doesnt add power but its less toxic for the user, it can be stored for years and wont gum up your carb. I like it but I dont burn alot of fuel, so the cost isnt a big deal.
In Europe it is extremely difficult to purchase ethanol free fuel. In their wisdom the law is E5 or E10 only at the pumps. I personally use Aspen 4 and mix 40:1 with my choice of oil. For pros running saws etc for a living then running E5 mixed all day is usually not a problem but for intermediate/homeowner users then the Aspen route is probably a better option as machines will be stored for weeks,months between runs and the fuel lines etc won't degrade as we know they can. Yes it is a little pricey,but what price is a dealer rebuild ? There are many Alklyate fuels available such as Husqvarna XP Power2,Gulf Pro Fuel,Sunoco shelf fuel etc etc One guarantee is the 50:1 mix will be spot on,taking out user error, if that is your preferred ratio
Local Stihl dealer started stocking it this year. I do believe the actual fuel used in Aspen 2 is superior even to our traditional "canned" fuels atleast as far as stability and engine cleanliness are concerned. However I'm not comfortable with 50:1 and don't want to add a different type of 2t oil that may clash with their add pack. If Aspen 4 was available to me locally I'd gladly buy it and mix with my preferred oil, as that's what I currently do with VP 4-cycle fuel for the majority of my saws that see little use. Richard Flagg has said he'll add the Aspen 2 fuel to his oil testing. If it appears to leave a better film of oil than hp ultra, I'll likely switch to it, atleast for my seldom worked hard saws & various 2t engines. Yes, I mix with E-free pump gas if I'm going to be using more than a couple gallons in a week.
@@christopherlehman4045 I agree and I would if it were available locally. Same dealer also stocks motomix but not the moto 4. Says he'll only order the aspen 4 or moto 4 version if he gets enough requests to justify a pallet load. Actually claims he got a load of the moto 4 a few years ago and sold less than ¼ of it in 2 years.
That’s funny lots of the dealers up here use the canned fuel mixed or not for the first run on equipment since it’s easier than having someone complain that their new equipment doesn’t start
Another channel I watched tried it in a leaf blower and lost 800 rpm. Lots of saws come in her shop not running, dump out the canned fuel and fresh gas start right up. This stuff is just too expensive for me. I've never had a problem with non ethanol fuel even if it sits for months. I put this in the same category as bottled water. Who ever thought they could put something free in a bottle and sell it was a genius.
I know who you’re talking about and she has no clue how old the fuel was in that blower. Also this is alkylate fuel so different in the first place. Where my wife works sells a ton of the premix canned gas in vp and the trufuel brands and hasn’t seen any issues. They have started to use canned gas to pre run new saws ect because some people put them on the shelf for a year or more. Lots of them are small saws bought for storm clean up.
Ill stick with premium E free and Klotz 40:1. I like the smell and it works well. My buddy used to run French fry oil in his diesel truck. The smell gets to you after a while. Lol. Cheers
The diaphragms in carbs gets brittle and are toast if you use the Aspen fuel and then switch back to regular pump.. so you better be willing to replace em or to run it constantly.. pure gas will find you the E0% and that's all you really need, that and a little stabilizer that's already included in most 2cycle oil and it'll be good.
Av gas is more Of A diesel. Hear me out planes dont run over 3000rpm. Thats where that stuff is happy. It goes lean on stuff when it turns up more than 5000 rpm. We use it in antique pulling tractors and tried it with our 450 we race on ice. Works great on tractors skips terrible on the 450. The 450 is fuel injected btw.
@@kylecromp319 Doesn't AV Gas still run lead in it too? Something to do with the elevation planes fly at requiring it. I don't know, I'm not a plane expert. :)
It is true, it just takes a much more significant amount of energy to produce a pound of meat than it does to produce a pound of vegetation. Much more nutrition and flavor in a pound of meat though.
Lots of studies show the human brain needs amino acids that are only in meat. Not hard to find. But everyone one is entitled to think and do as they wish. I’m not saying it to fight. Just want people to do more research and do what’s best for them. It’s all good 👍
That what's up. Keep recycling this old stuff. I believe the best stuff was made from 2000 to 2005. One of those things is my 2000 GMC with over 300,000.
The reason 40:1 is not recommended is only because of EPA standards, NOT because it is bad for the saw. It is actually recommended by many builders (especially in Husqvarna 5 series saws) to avoid bottom end failures. Even 32:1 can be used. I always run 40:1 and would highly recommend that you do the same. Especially in Husky 5 series saws that are known to have problems with their crank bearings.
Actually in lots of other countries husky still recommends 40:1 mix, the 50:1 is an epa thing. Also 100 octane is completely unnecessary but it’s your money.
Run only 40:1 in all my autotunes, and 87 E-0 fuel is good enough, you don't need high octane in a saw, it just makes less power. Even ported and 200psi comp it's fine with no detonation, very different than a 12:1 comp V8 for example
I love your initial take on things.. but let's just say that these environmental concerns are all BS anyway. I know you can't but we all know it's true
Corporations are good at making consumers feel guilty. 10 Companies produce more than half the world's emissions so none of us here should feel guilty about running saws, our impact is miniscule.
I use it, not for more power, but for better storage abilities... I found on the documentation that it is a 1/50 mix, I myself mix in a little bit of extra 2 stroke oil, regards Wim
Yep, 91 octane "EF" up here in PA is what lot of us run. I mix mine 40:1 w Amsoil Dominator
It doesnt add power but its less toxic for the user, it can be stored for years and wont gum up your carb.
I like it but I dont burn alot of fuel, so the cost isnt a big deal.
It is an alkylate fuel. Whatever that means, that is the marketing jargon the reps use when they try to get you to order it.
It is actually different and seems to have a lot of detergents or something in it because it sure seems to clean out slightly gummed up carbs out.
In Europe it is extremely difficult to purchase ethanol free fuel. In their wisdom the law is E5 or E10 only at the pumps. I personally use Aspen 4 and mix 40:1 with my choice of oil.
For pros running saws etc for a living then running E5 mixed all day is usually not a problem but for intermediate/homeowner users then the Aspen route is probably a better option as machines will be stored for weeks,months between runs and the fuel lines etc won't degrade as we know they can.
Yes it is a little pricey,but what price is a dealer rebuild ?
There are many Alklyate fuels available such as Husqvarna XP Power2,Gulf Pro Fuel,Sunoco shelf fuel etc etc
One guarantee is the 50:1 mix will be spot on,taking out user error, if that is your preferred ratio
You can always remove it from the fuel using water.. it's real easy
I do like premix canned gas, it does make saws run smoother, plus you dont have to worry about it drawing moisture.
Can you test the klotz nitropropane additive in something?
Local Stihl dealer started stocking it this year. I do believe the actual fuel used in Aspen 2 is superior even to our traditional "canned" fuels atleast as far as stability and engine cleanliness are concerned. However I'm not comfortable with 50:1 and don't want to add a different type of 2t oil that may clash with their add pack. If Aspen 4 was available to me locally I'd gladly buy it and mix with my preferred oil, as that's what I currently do with VP 4-cycle fuel for the majority of my saws that see little use.
Richard Flagg has said he'll add the Aspen 2 fuel to his oil testing. If it appears to leave a better film of oil than hp ultra, I'll likely switch to it, atleast for my seldom worked hard saws & various 2t engines.
Yes, I mix with E-free pump gas if I'm going to be using more than a couple gallons in a week.
Just buy stihls 4 stroke canned fuel, aspen makes the motomix and 4 stroke stihl canned gas.
@@christopherlehman4045 I agree and I would if it were available locally. Same dealer also stocks motomix but not the moto 4. Says he'll only order the aspen 4 or moto 4 version if he gets enough requests to justify a pallet load. Actually claims he got a load of the moto 4 a few years ago and sold less than ¼ of it in 2 years.
That’s funny lots of the dealers up here use the canned fuel mixed or not for the first run on equipment since it’s easier than having someone complain that their new equipment doesn’t start
I’ll stick with my current mix. $24 a gallon is too steep for me.
Another channel I watched tried it in a leaf blower and lost 800 rpm. Lots of saws come in her shop not running, dump out the canned fuel and fresh gas start right up. This stuff is just too expensive for me. I've never had a problem with non ethanol fuel even if it sits for months. I put this in the same category as bottled water. Who ever thought they could put something free in a bottle and sell it was a genius.
I know who you’re talking about and she has no clue how old the fuel was in that blower. Also this is alkylate fuel so different in the first place. Where my wife works sells a ton of the premix canned gas in vp and the trufuel brands and hasn’t seen any issues. They have started to use canned gas to pre run new saws ect because some people put them on the shelf for a year or more. Lots of them are small saws bought for storm clean up.
Ill stick with premium E free and Klotz 40:1. I like the smell and it works well. My buddy used to run French fry oil in his diesel truck. The smell gets to you after a while. Lol. Cheers
Is that he bar you bought from us at Paul Bunyan? New England Pine :)
Sure is!
Why does it seem like your chains are always loose is there a reason why you do that
This is interesting for sure to me. Makes me wonder what the chemical makeup of the fuel is compared to regular gasoline.
The diaphragms in carbs gets brittle and are toast if you use the Aspen fuel and then switch back to regular pump.. so you better be willing to replace em or to run it constantly.. pure gas will find you the E0% and that's all you really need, that and a little stabilizer that's already included in most 2cycle oil and it'll be good.
Less strain on engine with slightly loose chain.
Lets see you theory on the muffler mod in the wood, same saw, same chain.
Stanley dirt monkey did a test on all can fuels he lit them on plates to show how clean they burn. Aspen and mixed fuel where the top two.
have you ever tried running avgas 100LL?
Av gas is more
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A diesel. Hear me out planes dont run over 3000rpm. Thats where that stuff is happy. It goes lean on stuff when it turns up more than 5000 rpm. We use it in antique pulling tractors and tried it with our 450 we race on ice. Works great on tractors skips terrible on the 450. The 450 is fuel injected btw.
That is all I use with red armor oil
it is not like diesel , it is pure fuel with none of the junk in it that gums things up@@kylecromp319
@@kylecromp319 Doesn't AV Gas still run lead in it too? Something to do with the elevation planes fly at requiring it. I don't know, I'm not a plane expert. :)
@@kylecromp319the lead in the AV gas does not play well with O2 sensors in fuel injected equipment
This is worrying, how many bad decisions have I made because I didn't film myself?
👍🆙BigGuy,
I never buy used underwear , socks, or toilet paper.
Ill stick with my E free VP or red armor. Too many saws and I'm not rich enough!
Remember.....leaner is meaner , but your engine dies sooner? Once again it is another magic trick from big business. That's all it is
I'll pass. Canned fuel gummed up my chainsaw with intermittent use so I'll just stick to high-test E free gas and AMSOIL Dominator/Saber
Meat? lol
that made me cringe too... I guess propaganda gets through to a lot of people
It's all the crap the greenies try telling you about cows. They think all the cow farts are putting a hole in the ozone or something.
It is true, it just takes a much more significant amount of energy to produce a pound of meat than it does to produce a pound of vegetation. Much more nutrition and flavor in a pound of meat though.
Lots of studies show the human brain needs amino acids that are only in meat. Not hard to find. But everyone one is entitled to think and do as they wish. I’m not saying it to fight. Just want people to do more research and do what’s best for them. It’s all good 👍
He can't be serious. I don't need to buy new shit but I have to eat meat everyday.
That what's up. Keep recycling this old stuff. I believe the best stuff was made from 2000 to 2005. One of those things is my 2000 GMC with over 300,000.
Eat more sheep, goat and deer!
No thanks I'm good.
40:1 not recommended in a auto tune. Husky can fuel is 95 octane. I run 100 with the bean oil. I'm not a company man.
I’ve ran 40:1 for 2 years now in my auto tune saws and have had no issues
The reason 40:1 is not recommended is only because of EPA standards, NOT because it is bad for the saw. It is actually recommended by many builders (especially in Husqvarna 5 series saws) to avoid bottom end failures. Even 32:1 can be used. I always run 40:1 and would highly recommend that you do the same. Especially in Husky 5 series saws that are known to have problems with their crank bearings.
Actually in lots of other countries husky still recommends 40:1 mix, the 50:1 is an epa thing. Also 100 octane is completely unnecessary but it’s your money.
Run only 40:1 in all my autotunes, and 87 E-0 fuel is good enough, you don't need high octane in a saw, it just makes less power. Even ported and 200psi comp it's fine with no detonation, very different than a 12:1 comp V8 for example
I love your initial take on things.. but let's just say that these environmental concerns are all BS anyway. I know you can't but we all know it's true