I think another factor in the "October Lull" is in most places bow season has been in for at least a few weeks and the deer behavior has already started to change because of the hunting pressure.
Been hunting since 1972. I hunt 1 million acres in the UP of MI. The last few years I've noticed not seeing any deer. I'm retired and ride two tracks all day long till the season starts. Alot of noisy ATVs on the two tracks tearing up the roads and scaring deer/ grouse. Poaching is a problem. Wolves must be in an area to keep the herd healthy. I have never /seen a sick deer here where I hunt. I set up a camera over bait and saw dozens of deer. Bucks and does both about the same numbers, a good ratio.
Another excellent video, particularly around the approach to your spot. I have one spot that has treated me very well, 5 mature bucks taken. The approach is the key to that spot, a steep climb right next to a fast running creek draw. The morning down hill thermal makes it perfect for the climb, sucking scent down the creek draw. The stand itself is a ground stand overlooking a brushy face with my back to the creek. Several deer have been killed by 8:30am as they move across the hill, 60-150 yard shots. Once the down hill thermal quits around 10am the prevailing wind pushes scent to the creek and across, away from the area I watch. These kind of public land places are difficult to find with all the access, thermals, prevailing wind factors working in your favor but if you find them they produce year over year. I spend all of my time looking for just these spots.
On my lease which is narrow and backs up to a creek with Hay-ground and then a 60 acre ticket up against the creek. I know those deer have me pegged! I need to sleep in using the edges more and not hunt it near as often as I have in the past. Enjoyed the video👍
Your title reads' Hunting Pressure'. I live in SE Pa. Pa has 5X more deer hunters than Iowa+Kansas combined! My county(it actually got re-aligned; parts of 4 counties- 5-C) gives 79000 doe licenses! So, wherever, whenever I go, private or public, I DONT KNOW if somebody ran thru in the morn, if they are there now... Anyway, I was still getting 1-2 deer per yr; last yr, I didnt get a shot! I was seeing some in early season, but just too much pressure around here.
@@adamlewis_outdoor Yes, but when you kill all of the moms.... It takes it's toll over the years. It used to be 70000 doe tags+ they just raised it to 79 this year. I would be happy with 1 doe tag per license, until the herd gets built back up. Ppl around here shoot ANYTHING legal.
Got to admit, his view, Dr Bronson, is one I haven't heard before. And he might, or might not be onto something. The October lull, that is. Does make a lot of sense, that the scenery is completely different. Because it is, with all the foliage disappearing. I think you throw that in with way more humans in the woods, then what they've been used to. And, quite possibly, you might have the reason. And I might also throw in, the weather change. You know that has to play into it, at least somewhat. Anyways, good show my friend😊
@@adamlewis_outdoor bachelor breakup might play into it. I'm trying to find these two bucks. One's a dominant, the other ones are subordinate. One was at 10 point last year the other, a very nice eight pointer. I don't know if they completely broke off their dominant subordinate buck routine last year. I do know they kept it into the rut. Hope I find them pretty soon. Quite a challenge. They've been together for 2 years now. Well, as of last year. Haven't picked them up yet on camera this year. Fun stuff, love the challenge. Lol
Considering I haven't hunted the last three seasons I'd say I'm not putting too much pressure. But what about my kid during the off-season playing in the woods?
Off season not as bad. If it’s normal deer tolerate it. Here’s an episode clip about that if you have time ua-cam.com/video/55ZV5HTZ9Ts/v-deo.htmlsi=uzqBbhWyFal0zU2Q
Was there any data in the study to suggest how long it took the deer to “reset” after hunting pressure decreases or is eliminated all together? Do the deer go back to moving the same as previous to hunting pressure after a certain period of time? Two weeks? Two months? Or Never again that season? I’d love know if Bronson has any information on that.
Not sure if they do. There’s an older study by auburn university and Clint McCoy that suggest 5 days to not avoid areas anymore but that’s not the same level as being attracted to areas. Bottom line it depends probably in your area but tolerance is low. I think it takes likely a full season in some areas
No such thing as the October Lull!!!! I see um all the time, just don't hunt in early to mid Oct. In the morning when it's hot. I killed a nice one on oct.1 in a.m. but it was cool out
I think another factor in the "October Lull" is in most places bow season has been in for at least a few weeks and the deer behavior has already started to change because of the hunting pressure.
Been hunting since 1972. I hunt 1 million acres in the UP of MI. The last few years I've noticed not seeing any deer. I'm retired and ride two tracks all day long till the season starts. Alot of noisy ATVs on the two tracks tearing up the roads and scaring deer/ grouse. Poaching is a problem. Wolves must be in an area to keep the herd healthy. I have never /seen a sick deer here where I hunt. I set up a camera over bait and saw dozens of deer. Bucks and does both about the same numbers, a good ratio.
Another excellent video, particularly around the approach to your spot. I have one spot that has treated me very well, 5 mature bucks taken. The approach is the key to that spot, a steep climb right next to a fast running creek draw. The morning down hill thermal makes it perfect for the climb, sucking scent down the creek draw. The stand itself is a ground stand overlooking a brushy face with my back to the creek. Several deer have been killed by 8:30am as they move across the hill, 60-150 yard shots. Once the down hill thermal quits around 10am the prevailing wind pushes scent to the creek and across, away from the area I watch. These kind of public land places are difficult to find with all the access, thermals, prevailing wind factors working in your favor but if you find them they produce year over year. I spend all of my time looking for just these spots.
Nice setup! What state are you in?
@@adamlewis_outdoor Idaho
Is there anything in particular you’re looking for when map scouting spots? I’m really new to this and feeling quite defeated so far lol
Greetings from the BIG SKY of Montana. Watching young whitetail bucks fight over crab apples here sure is a treat.
On my lease which is narrow and backs up to a creek with Hay-ground and then a 60 acre ticket up against the creek. I know those deer have me pegged! I need to sleep in using the edges more and not hunt it near as often as I have in the past. Enjoyed the video👍
When I do land plans I help clients figure their strategy out. It could include using the creek depending on how that sets up
Your title reads' Hunting Pressure'. I live in SE Pa. Pa has 5X more deer hunters than Iowa+Kansas combined! My county(it actually got re-aligned; parts of 4 counties- 5-C) gives 79000 doe licenses! So, wherever, whenever I go, private or public, I DONT KNOW if somebody ran thru in the morn, if they are there now... Anyway, I was still getting 1-2 deer per yr; last yr, I didnt get a shot! I was seeing some in early season, but just too much pressure around here.
It’s tough, I’m in Michigan on public most the time .. Still possible
@@adamlewis_outdoor Yes, but when you kill all of the moms.... It takes it's toll over the years. It used to be 70000 doe tags+ they just raised it to 79 this year. I would be happy with 1 doe tag per license, until the herd gets built back up. Ppl around here shoot ANYTHING legal.
5-c wmu PA hunters for the win! Good luck out there!
You guys got Amish outlaws like we’ve got up here in 1A and 1B? They kill more deer than idk what
Got to admit, his view, Dr Bronson, is one I haven't heard before. And he might, or might not be onto something. The October lull, that is. Does make a lot of sense, that the scenery is completely different. Because it is, with all the foliage disappearing. I think you throw that in with way more humans in the woods, then what they've been used to. And, quite possibly, you might have the reason. And I might also throw in, the weather change. You know that has to play into it, at least somewhat. Anyways, good show my friend😊
I think it’s the 3 things.. bachelor breakup, food changes, and hunting pressure
@@adamlewis_outdoor bachelor breakup might play into it. I'm trying to find these two bucks. One's a dominant, the other ones are subordinate. One was at 10 point last year the other, a very nice eight pointer. I don't know if they completely broke off their dominant subordinate buck routine last year. I do know they kept it into the rut. Hope I find them pretty soon. Quite a challenge. They've been together for 2 years now. Well, as of last year. Haven't picked them up yet on camera this year. Fun stuff, love the challenge. Lol
@@adamlewis_outdoorI actually have the subordinate buck, grooming the dominant buck, on tape. Textbook stuff. Pretty funny
Considering I haven't hunted the last three seasons I'd say I'm not putting too much pressure. But what about my kid during the off-season playing in the woods?
Off season not as bad. If it’s normal deer tolerate it. Here’s an episode clip about that if you have time ua-cam.com/video/55ZV5HTZ9Ts/v-deo.htmlsi=uzqBbhWyFal0zU2Q
I'd like to add. 4 + year old bucks don't chase does like most people believe. They will keep that doe away from a pressured area.
Was there any data in the study to suggest how long it took the deer to “reset” after hunting pressure decreases or is eliminated all together? Do the deer go back to moving the same as previous to hunting pressure after a certain period of time? Two weeks? Two months? Or Never again that season? I’d love know if Bronson has any information on that.
Not sure if they do. There’s an older study by auburn university and Clint McCoy that suggest 5 days to not avoid areas anymore but that’s not the same level as being attracted to areas. Bottom line it depends probably in your area but tolerance is low. I think it takes likely a full season in some areas
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No such thing as the October Lull!!!! I see um all the time, just don't hunt in early to mid Oct. In the morning when it's hot. I killed a nice one on oct.1 in a.m. but it was cool out