Can You Clear Coat Over Primer - 1989 Dodge Caravan Rust Repair and Paint Job
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- Опубліковано 17 жов 2024
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In this video we take a 1989 Dodge Caravan and give it a much needed cosmetic overhaul. We are also trying a little paint experiment. Can you clear coat over primer? I am asking you can it be done? we don't know, and couldn't find the info anywhere on youtube. The van was not in awful shape considering its age. There were some spots that were rotted away that needed some welding and patch panels put in place. First we took everything off the van that we didn't want painted, then started fixing all the rust and sanded down the entire car. We used Omni Primer and Rouge clearcoat. The results were pretty god! We would do things a little different if we do this again and we still don't know long term durability. I can imagine if we spent more time on preparing a better vehicle, the results would look even better. But now we know it works...again we just don't know if it lasts haha. We hope you enjoyed the video and consider subscribing!
We have another project coming out next week so keep an eye out for that!
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Yeah don't call yourself stupid you're not stupid far from it and I've never seen anybody put a $300 paint kit paint job on a car and make it look so damn good you're awesome at what you do keep up the great work and I'm going to keep watching your videos
Thank you very much! Glad you enjoyed it, and thank you for the encouragement! Also going to respond to your other comment
I have made jokes that the new cars look like primer with a clear coat and your experiment proved my joke to be not a joke.
The van looks good and I am glad it was saved from the scrap heap, I don't know if I would have went with light gray primer with a 2k clear over it but it does look to be similar to all the grays that Europe and Japan are doing.
It does look super similar. Saw and f150 the other day that had to be soooo close in color. The porsche grey is pretty nice looking
We had nothing but Minivans and other Dodge vehicles growing up. My dad worked for Chrysler and we got to hear all about how Lee Iacocca saved his job because of the minivan. The van looks good and it brought back a lot of memories for me. Thanks for the video!
That's great. Ya crazy how Chrysler had a huge turn around. Glad you liked the video and that it could bring back some cool memories.
Same!!
My family has ran through 30 or more of these. We even had a mid 80s that was a manual. Had to push the know down to shift into reverse. Great video keep em coming.
30?! 😮 Yeah these things are great! That's for watching and the comment! Definitely more to come, stay tuned!
Years ago, early 80’s or so, a friend painted his 1938 Hotrod Chevy dashboard with primer then cleared it. It turned out really nice. I’m in the process of painting my dear departed parents 1987 Chevy Monte Carlo with Rustoleum Turbo white spray cans. I’m doing a panel at a time at my leisure and I must say for a cheap paint job it looks pretty decent. The coverage is phenomenal. Give it s try! 👍😎
We haven't tried the turbo cans, but maybe we should. Are you finding that they leave a lot of orange peel?
I currently have a 1994 Chrysler LeBaron LX sedan 3.0L V6 and it is in INCREDIBLE shape. But the dang paint peels off. But the interior is so similar to the Voyageur / Caravan. Same room console with the sunglasses holder and digital compass. Same gauge cluster. Same column shifter. Same digital fuel economy gauge, etc.
I Love it.
When I was a kid grandma had a Chrysler that talked to her to let her know if a door was open or if the keys were left in the ignition. Wish that car was still around
It needs a rustoleum paint job! :D
👍👍 You're right. This is the first video with a clear coat over primer. Good job!!
Thank you! And ya we couldn't find one
Great experiment gents! Be proud that you are the first to attempt this, with success !👍🇨🇦Ricky
Ya thank you, it definitely was cool to try it, and now we can perfect it!
I came home in a 1984 Plymouth Voyager really respect this video thank you Lee iacocca would be so happy ❤❤❤😊
Finally. I’ve been checking your channel every day for the next video. Love your channel. As I mentioned in an earlier comment, it’s great to see you guys proving that this work can be done on a budget without the fancy shops, materials and equipment. Absolutely love the fact that Cam makes body panel parts from old cabinets and lockers. Anyone can buy panels and bolt them on but to build them from cabinets is an art.
I would love to see tutorial on how cam makes these body panels.
Thank you very much. Ya using what you've got is @n affordable option! And sorry for the wait, but also thank you for the support!
I’m so glad I discovered you guys. We’re just a stones throw away (Poshawa). Great video. Question: can I just spray black primer on our ‘76 F-350 and leave it? I know it would look great, but would it last?
After watching you guys using shelves and stuff for body work, I was at work and they were throwing away a metal cart, so I asked if I could have it. Love you guys.
That's awesome! Let us know if you end up using it and how it goes!
I bought an MG where the sills were shelf supports, spray foam egg cartons and spray foam
A very worthwhile project in my opinion - looks great!
I don’t know how many times I’ve watched this now, but the ending with the banter and jokes makes me laugh every time 😂
But I might be a bit biased 😅😏
Like a good show/movie, worth watching again!
Thank you for all the help!
I've owned many of those vans when I had a courier company. They'll haul 2000lbs before things start to break. Same chassis as a K car so the junk yards were full of them in the 90's and parts were plentiful. You guys did a fantastic job and it looks great. Painting the wheel wells and wheels was the icing on the cake.
I'm sure you'll hit 10K in no time. Your content is quality and the videos are well done
Thank you very much! And ya they can handle a lot. Never tried 2000 pounds, but that's good to know! Thank you for the encouragement! We'll keep the videos coming!
Grandma had 2 of those vans, the 84 with the 2.6 Mitsubishi 4 cylinder refused to die. Turned out great!
Whe is I was young everybody had big families and station wagons but 90's kids probably remember these well
They were built pretty tough, and if anything were to ever break, parts were plentiful. I also had an astro van too.
Station wagons with the rear facing seat!
Holy wow, that came out slicker than snot, boys! 🫡
Hahaha love that, thank you very much!
Love this vid..plymouth voyager vans are cool id like todo a first gen too..cheers 🍻
They are hard to find now! They used to be everywhere!!
You' re not alone !! ^^ Hehe.
There are some people really loving these vans, I hope the community around them will keep growing. We have a francophone forum, for France , Belgium, and maybe Switzerland here.
I saved 2 of them, a 95 with nearly no options ( my daily ) with a propane kit on it, and a very clean 93 A/C, cruise control, electric mirrors and front windows, tilt colunm, original roof rack with sliding bars, both are 2.5 L gasoline, they are less common than the 2.5 turbo diesel in Europe.
Man, finding this without searching for it is amazing because just a couple of days ago, i was wondering the exact same thing.
That's awesome! Ya its crossed my mind a bunch of times, but Cam figured this van was the perfect candidate. Thanks for watching and commenting!
I’ve sprayed clear over primer multiple times and then I found Napa industrial coating is only 80 a gallon and you only need to use thinner. That stuff is virtually bullet proof after 3 coats but all in all great job 👏
That's awesome, and you found it held up? We will have to try Napa industrial coating on a truck or something in the future. Thanks for watching, and thanks for the tip!
I used to have a beater car that I just used a paint brush to apply brown primer paint. No gloss covering.
I loved it.
If I ever have a car that needs a paint job, I will do it again.
Whatever gets the job done! 💪
Very nice. I had an 89 with a 2.5 Turbo, good economy and still could move out on the highway. Good video. Happy Motoring.
Thank you! And ya the turbo was great! We had one here at the shop for a while.
Best van ever I had a 90 TC and 93 GC AWD great vans that always started and ran fine. We traveled in both and love them. I drive a 05 TC with 300k still running strong.
New subscriber. Grew up in sutton Nice to see someone local on UA-cam👍
Thank you! Nice to know we have a local subscriber!
I really like your channel. I recall seeing 2 C-3 Corvette owners do this down here in the U.S. on UA-cam right around 2020 I believe. A "Flatback" 76 & a "Bubbleback" 78 or 79.
Looks awesome. I am planning to do this on my super duty F 250. I am wanting to use red oxide primer, then clear coat with a pinch of pearl added. Just enough to give it a metallic finish. Great video glad I found it.
You could have bought a cheap white metallic flake to put in that clear coat. It would have looked like one of the paints the current gen Clio has.
It's basicaly nardo gray from afar, but when you get close to it, it starts sparkling, because of the sparkles that are in the clear coat. Very subtle effect.
Primer is so weirdly versatile.
I wonder how much color pigment can put into it. 🤔
Absolutely looks amazing!! Great job boys 👍🏆🥇🏅🎖️👏💪💪😁
Love the Canadian accent! A great paint job and a survivor van looked after better than most!
I just found your channel by accident. You guys are a natural talent. Cam reminds me of a young Vincent D'onofrio and Tim's voice reminds me of Philip J. Fry from Futurama! Keep up the great work. Cheers from Guam USA👍
Thank you very much! Glad you found the channel! That's gotta be the 3rd or 4th time we've got the Fry from Futurama comment! Must be true haha! 🇬🇺🇨🇦👍
Wow. That looks amazing. Good to see paint and body done in home shops. I’m sure your channel will keep growing.
Thank you for the encouragement! Glad you like it!
Something so satisfying about the dashboard design
there were grey Tacomas about 10 years ago. they looked pretty good. nice job on the van
Thanks so much!! We weren't sure how it was gonna turn out but it turned out pretty good!
I wondered about clear coating primer years ago when I worked at a auto body shop
Ya its been something we've wondered about for a while. No one ever tried it on a panel? Or even by mistake? I guess they would be paying jobs so no screwing around
When premium manufacturers started offering those grey primer-like colors we used to make fun of those who bought them, like "you buy an expensive car but you can't afford proper paint?"
But to be honest, if you have an old vehicle and you just want to get as much use out of it as possible while not looking like a hobo or hillbilly, that seems to be a legit solution.
i like this idea . Very cost effective for a fleet
Ya true, would be a great solution for a fleet to keep costs down
Wow.
That looks amazing.You guys beautiful job.Love the way you explain everything and everything.Came just stumbled on your channel.And I gotta say.I absolutely love the content.I love the attitude of yall and Please.
Keep on making Awesome content
Love it!!
Especially because i am as weird. Got a few 1st gens and newer Chrysler minivans too.
I collected body parts over the last 15 years, but never used the NOS parts cause i am afraid i never ever get another one 😅
Keep us entertained 🤟🏻
Happy to have another minivan lover with us!! Thanks for watching man!
Had a 2002 and now have a 2019. They are cheap and versatile and they last. I like the huge greenhouse in those earlier ones.
This was fun to watch. And that’s the point of your channel! Just fun and entertaining. This turned out great. Love the wheels! What a fun little affordable runabout. I bet you get lots of looks driving around!
And look at those cup holders! Lol😅
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it! And yes it gets tools for sure. It was just an experiment and it doesn't make sense to sink too much time or money into it, but we will probably still take it to the local weekly car show!
we had a 1989 when I was a kid, epic machine.
They are decent and parts were so easy to get. Less and less now though.
I did it on a GT bicycle back in the 80s looked great everyone loved it
Right on! Those were great bikes. My brother had an old BMX with the three spoke plastic rims. I also remember spray painting my first bike. I did a black and silver theme
Looks sick. Love the video and the concept 🤟
Thank you! We are happy with how this video and the paint turned out! Thanks for watching and for commenting!
Going to do this with my sons corvette but add pigment to the clear, shoot it on black flat primer. Think it will turn out good. Subbed for sure !
That would be cool! I'd like to see the finished product!
Iam hurt after what you said I used to have 3 vans I really wish I kept them but I couldn't. I Know more now so if I find one I will buy it !
Haha all fun. They are great vans. There are a couple of them hanging around the shop!
Been to a few of Leah’s concerts 🤘🤘🤘🤘 and I watched Tim on tv for years
Just found you and subbed! Greetings from Greece guys!
Amazing! Thank you! Really appreciate it!
It’s a really beautiful van that paint job looks really good
Thank you very much, it turned out, and drives pretty well!
I like the Nardo grey but also the grey/blue on Ford Rangers...havent been able to find out what its called...good job fellas...another amazing transformation
Ya that is a cool one. We actually stopped by a Ford dealership to scope out their grey cuz they have a few versions
Caravans are awesome, it’s like driving an enclosed trailer. I have an 89 3.0 and a 90 turbo I cut the roof off and made it into a truck. A neat gray is the new f150, looks white in daylight. That’s 10x the paint that van had when new
Ya, they are so versatile. I'd love to see the turbo modified to be a truck. Cam had a turbo as well but had a little too much fun with it... Thats why it was donating rear flares to this one.
New Video! Worth the wait!
Worth the wait! 🤘
Love the colour!… gives me ideas now . These vans are cool . Your videos are great guys. Love the fact that you’ll reuse cabinet doors or whatever you can find to use . Be cool to see you clear coat another one but tint the primer . Thanks for the entertainment boys .
I love that van I ad one back then and still have a love for them now great job 🎉on it locks like u got it back to live. 😂 20:33
Thanks! Ya they hold a soft spot for a lot of people I think. Pretty cool a van you wouldn't think much of can hold such memories
Van looks good
Thank you!
I like how your looking at the van through the door like it's going to blow up
Haha ya like a science experiment we just mixed stuff to see what happens
the ole' zip ties and bias plies mint finger gesture gets me everytime
Haha! You bet! 👌
It turned out so nice!!! Now to do something about that interior…
It could use a fiber optic roof eh!
oh wow! those are becoming rarer, arent they?
Nice job fixing it up! The primer is actually quite a fresh and modern color, nice to see it worked out so well! makes sense you can clear over primer, if paint sticks, why not clear aswell
Ya you don't see these as often anymore at all. And ya makes sense it would stick, that's what we figured anyway haha
This channel is amazing!! We need to see the electric Fiero! Keep up the good work :)
Might have to make a video on it! It does need a few things, so maybe we can do that soon!
I have alot of memories in those old vans of that type. My parents had one twice and my best friends parents had one. Ive been trying to find one as a possible project or something to fix up and maybe put a different engine in it.
My panelbeater did the same probably 25 years ago with dulon when I was getting work done on my Falcon. It was so it could sit a while before the paint job to prevent moisture soaking into the porous primer and rusting again.
Good Work Guys ,Cool Channel 😊 Ur Alberta Fan
Looks awesome
Thank you!
Did this years ago with the DupliColor lacquers from AutoZone. Did not wear a good mask got sick as hell. But it turned out pretty nice on my S10. And if you're going to get a vintage minivan it's got to be Astro van all-wheel drive Anne swedish doors.
Another great video !!
used to be millions of first and second gen vans around. now they are more rare then 70's and 80's trucks/cars
So true! They were everywhere!! Now it's not often you see one at all.
Very interesting give updates on how it last but looks good
Ya we will definitely make updates on it's longevity and durability! Thanks for watching and for the comment!
Hi from Hamilton Ontario
Hey neighbor! Thanks for watching and commenting!
That turned out pretty sweet! I’m a fan of those old vans, too, I had plans to find a decent one and make a mini camper out of it. Out here in the Maritimes they have mostly rusted away but I did see a nice Plymouth version for sale last year. Someone else beat me to it, though. They also did a cargo van version that was neat, too. Cool idea with the clear coated primer. Did kind of the same thing many years ago on one of the original Minis - it was white and my buddy wanted the roof red. We had some spray cans of red oxide primer and some of clear coat so that’s what we did it with. Held up for the next two years he owned it, at least. I’d like to see how you guys deal with the backs of the new panel sections you weld in. I usually spray some primer then the asphalt type underseal for areas out of sight but I’d be interested in your idea of best way. 👍🏻
PS - Checked out Leah’s music after you mentioned she’s a singer. That she is - beyond awesome! 👍🏻
Thank you! Ya we are happy with how it turned out, and good to know you've tried it in the past and it held up for at least those two years. A camper conversion would be pretty sweet in one of these. There are a couple hanging around the shop, one of them is a woody! As for the body patches, we spray the backside with black oil non drip undercoat, but if you can get in there and spread seam sealer over the joint first that's great
Thank you! Ya she is pretty good at what she does. It will be a fun weekend that's for sure!
Great job! What’s the easiest way to change a light grey gallon of primer to a charcoal gray?
Add black
@@Justmebro777Ha! doesn’t get easier than that. Thanks
Yes just a bit of black. We have been thinking about the next time we try this, we will likely try tinting the primer
You should have done the wheels in red primer but looks great and looks like those new colors they're putting on new cars.
Red would looks great with the center caps and rings. That's a good idea
Cheers from London Ontario
I used to have an old hatchback and the rear wheel arches rusted out, & me being as cheap as I am; I went to the junk yard & got two front fenders off the same kind of car, cut out the rust & cut the old fender curves & welded them in. Some Bondo & paint & it was good as a brand new used one!
That's awesome! What a good idea. Some wreckers don't allow cutting tools so that i# a really good idea!
Good job guys
Thank you! And thanks for commenting!
I love my car in primer I thought of clear coat so I don't leave finger prints I have a feather fill 2 k I might try by the way cool keeping any classic looking good that ol van is a staple in many people's lively hood good vans
Looks beautiful. Is it for sale ?
I would be curious to see how the color (grey) holds up over time, since the primer itself worn really have uv inhibiting properties. Will it fade over the year(s)
I know the clear will protect it some but even cheap color base coats can still fade bad from the uv cutting through the clearcoat.
I think about clear coating directly over primer all the time (especially with all these light grey colors now that look like primer)
That will be interesting for sure. Only time will tell, but yes, the clear will help, but the primer might fade?? We will do it. A follow up at some point
@@RustedRides I’m looking forward to the follow up because I’ve wanted to do this since I became a auto painter
In short, this is my experience.
Yes, you can clear over primer, but dont expect it to last more than 2-3 years before the UV rays from the sun to break the primer down to chalky crap and the clear to start lifting in sheets.
Body shop used white primer as the white in graphics on a car of mine, and three years later the clear over the white was blowing off in fist sized flakes.
Actually looks surprising good. Right on like to see a few more colours great job, It maybe an old van but the price of new today will bankrupt ya. Good alternative.
Looks good, I would have went a step further and re-finished all the chrome to black.
It would have made it pop just nice, you need to lower and put some 16x9 wheels on all 4 corners
We thought about doing all black trim, but wasn't sure what would look best. I guess we could still do that though
@@RustedRides DO IT~~~ :)
You won't regret it
Had a buddy who shot his chevy 2 nova race car with primer blocked it 180. Primed again blocked 320 ....primed again blocked 400 ...primed again ...blocked 600 and then shot clear over it ....and painted all the stainless black ...it was f n slick ...
It will definitely work
It seems good. Who knows how long it will last but should be fine.. We hope haha
I love these vans !
So you guys are actually in Canada
Yep! We live in Ontario, small town about an hour from Toronto
Sanded, blown off, wiped off, remasked, wiped off. Tack, clear.
Not automobile but house accents, I use krylon Red Primer and clear on top. Makes a nice barn red.
Red would be nice!
It's a very interesting color
turned out surprisingly well.
if you get hoss to do reverse 360's in this weapon, i'll buy you a evercoat clear kit. it has to be posted on your channel too lol.
Haha sounds like a plan!
The color oddly suits the Van actually, Quite a nice turnout.
Thank you! Ya we thought so. Its like a modern version of the silver that was on it
Now you guys got to paint flames on that van
We've though about doing a retro 80s paint theme on one of the vans we have at the shop!
Beautiful
Thank you!
Looks really good! Id consider making at least the back bumper black I kinda like the look of the front color match but the back looks like too much gray imo.
Ya some black to give a few more accents would be nice. We did think about gloss black grill, but went with the original.
Absolutely. I've shot enamel and urethane clear over black epoxy primer, added pearl in first clear dust coat and you get a dark charcoal metallic. You won't get a clean deep black.
I was thinking if you you have ever thought about painting a vehicle with a house paint sprayer. Only asking cause that's all I have for painting equipment. Wondering if it can work.
17:00 What do I think?
I think you have a few bulbs to replace.
Haha yes
Thats what 2k single stage is, its essentially clearcoat but with colour tint added, 2 or 3 coats over primer and its done, super glossy super cheap, i paid $90 for a gallon of gloss black with 2L hardener online. Has lots of depth and gloss to it, much better than old laquer or enamel systems
I had a 95 dodge grand caravan, it was nice the 1st 5 yrs, but then everything starting breaking down 😢.
But it was nice when new!
I did my square body truck with Trans Star brand white epoxy primer and it looks like a flat white paint and will hold up well until I final prep and finish paint it
Man I have googled this for ages. Was thinking about mixing pearl powder in black primer and clear it to get a budget metallic paintjob.
We were totally thinking of adding some pearl!! but thought we should confirm it works first haha
Sure you can. A couple German manufacturers do it and call it Nardo Gray or Chalk. I'm looking at you Audi and Porsche.
Haha exactly!!!